| mapps | morning | 03:07 |
|---|---|---|
| knightwise | goor moning mapps | 06:18 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls | 08:43 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Chocolate Chip Cookie Day! đ đȘ | 09:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | disaster... no choc chip cookies in the house... were was the 2 week build up at local supermarkets like they have for valentines day?! | 09:11 |
| foobarry | anyone know how to get the package containing synclient? | 09:11 |
| foobarry | package xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is not availabel but is referred by another package | 09:11 |
| popey | foobarry: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics exists here | 10:03 |
| foobarry | thx, i was on livecd, so had issue. turns out my device isn't synaptic | 10:03 |
| foobarry | having terrible issues with my touchpad | 10:03 |
| foobarry | how would i find out the driver version being used by a touchpad? | 10:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | ? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41817/linux-how-to-find-the-device-driver-used-for-a-device | 10:23 |
| === willcooke_ is now known as willcooke | ||
| foobarry | managed to disable my keyboard \o/ | 11:10 |
| foobarry | fixed the jittery mouse issue in doing so. now need to decide what i want the most | 11:10 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| knightwise | morning | 11:18 |
| bittin | morning | 11:30 |
| popey | hello bittin | 11:32 |
| bittin | running Ubuntu on a friends chromebook here watching a bit of Assembly | 11:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | it does seem the only way to replace my now ancient netbook is to run ubuntu on a chromebook... | 11:39 |
| diddledan__ | this is a fun one: http://blogs.unity3d.com/2016/04/25/debugging-memory-corruption-who-the-hell-writes-2-into-my-stack-2/ | 11:46 |
| popey | i understand a small amount of that | 11:53 |
| popey | "Somebody had been touching my sentinelâs privates â and it definitely wasnât a friend. " made me chuckle | 11:53 |
| diddledan__ | :-p | 11:53 |
| diddledan__ | popey, I think you've been spending too much time listening to my innuendo | 11:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | if that's what you kids call it these days... :-P | 11:54 |
| diddledan__ | love space-hair! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-S4NxNYnoU | 12:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | closest thing to a tricorder yet when you can glance at female astronaut hair for quick check of air tight integrity... :-P | 12:03 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| diddledan__ | is it a limitation of X that ubuntu can't scale each screen's window-contents separately? if I set scale to screen with largest controls then everything is huge on my 72dpi screens and if I set to scale to the smallest controls then everything is too tiny on my retina screen | 13:07 |
| diddledan__ | where 72dpi is a synonym for "normal" | 13:07 |
| ali1234 | no, that is not a limitation of X | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | there are multiple different ways ubuntu could do that | 13:18 |
| diddledan__ | still at least it's better than before when nothing was scaled at all | 13:24 |
| diddledan__ | this is incremental progress, which is good | 13:25 |
| diddledan__ | I prefer incremental development to revolution | 13:25 |
| === Darkstar is now known as Guest76500 | ||
| foobarry | launchpad having a bit of a wobble | 14:52 |
| foobarry | timeouts on performing actions | 14:52 |
| diddledan__ | foobarry, perhaps the americans got their measurements wrong again and the rocket is veering offcourse (launchpad) | 14:55 |
| foobarry | "Timeout error, please try again in a few minutes." | 14:55 |
| foobarry | cannot save a bug as a dupe | 14:55 |
| diddledan__ | perhaps someone needs to file a bug about launchpad, on launchpad | 14:56 |
| daftykins | i think that would tear a hole in all that we know | 14:57 |
| diddledan__ | oh, yeah, launchpad is broken so you can't file a bug about launchpad on launchpad because launchpad is down | 14:57 |
| diddledan__ | daftykins, like God disproving his own existence in a puff of logic? | 14:58 |
| daftykins | whom? ;) | 15:02 |
| foobarry | fixed now. i knew going for a poo fwould fix it | 15:02 |
| daftykins | but have you calculated how much you're being paid for that strategy? | 15:02 |
| diddledan__ | I see omgubuntu claiming that dekko will be snapped soon. I wonder how soon that soon is? | 15:21 |
| DJones | foobarry: popey: Just looking at todays updates for Ubuntu, there is an update to "Secure Boot chain-loading bootloader (Microsoft signed binary)" I wonder if that is to deal with the problem you had yesterday | 15:45 |
| daftykins | o0 | 15:46 |
| diddledan__ | what problem was that? | 15:46 |
| DJones | 11:45 < foobarry> anniversary update totally hosed my grub | 15:47 |
| diddledan__ | I thought that was completely wiping non-windows partitions from the gpt/mbr | 15:47 |
| DJones | I think popey will know more about the issue, he tweeted something about it | 15:48 |
| diddledan__ | popey tweeted about linux partitions disappearing, as I said | 15:49 |
| DJones | Yeah, that was the one | 15:49 |
| DJones | I'm wondering if that update is the fix for it | 15:49 |
| diddledan__ | grub cannot work if there's no partition for it's files | 15:49 |
| diddledan__ | I fail to see how a grub update can fix a problem of the parition being not there | 15:49 |
| daftykins | a secure boot update would have nothing to do with a legacy bootloader getting hosed | 15:50 |
| daftykins | you'd think... | 15:51 |
| diddledan__ | the issue wasn't anything to do with the bootloader. the partitions were physically gone | 15:51 |
| daftykins | wat | 15:51 |
| diddledan__ | the windows anniversary updater removed any linux partitions | 15:52 |
| daftykins | seems dubious | 15:52 |
| diddledan__ | no linux partitions, means nothing for grub to read it's config from | 15:52 |
| diddledan__ | hence hosed grub | 15:53 |
| daftykins | yeah i kinda know how it works | 15:53 |
| daftykins | :P | 15:53 |
| diddledan__ | is an office suite made of sugar and tastiness? | 15:56 |
| diddledan__ | I like sweets | 15:56 |
| daftykins | 365 flavours | 15:56 |
| daftykins | so i hear | 15:56 |
| daftykins | i wonder what config needs to be present to give it a trial run, it'd be interesting to see if i can replicate it | 16:03 |
| DJones | daftykins: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/08/03/1614223/windows-10-anniversary-update-borks-dual-boot-partitions Don't know if that gives you any extra info | 16:06 |
| diddledan__ | I don't understand slashdot | 16:07 |
| diddledan__ | what's the point of posting a verbatim copy of someone else's article? | 16:07 |
| daftykins | well they filtered the pathetic Microsoft hatred from omgubuntu, so there's that | 16:07 |
| diddledan__ | more to the point, why DJones did you link the slashdot and not the original? :-p | 16:07 |
| DJones | diddledan__: That was the first link that came up | 16:08 |
| DJones | Just looking at the comments from users on omgubuntu | 16:08 |
| DJones | Looks like most cases it works ok, just a small minority that have issues, not limited to Ubuntu, I see mentions of archlinux as well | 16:10 |
| daftykins | i have a sneaking suspicion the people suffering would have installed Windows second | 16:12 |
| diddledan__ | daftykins, ask foobarry | 16:13 |
| DJones | And looking at other links, its not limited to linux partitions, seems like its also wiping ntfs partitions as well | 16:13 |
| DJones | Thats reading through http://windowsreport.com/partition-disappears-windows-10-anniversary-update/ | 16:13 |
| knightwise | eeeevnin | 16:15 |
| diddledan__ | allo | 16:16 |
| daftykins | \o | 16:16 |
| daftykins | how's it going, knightwise ? | 16:16 |
| * DJones welcome knightwise | 16:16 | |
| ali1234 | why is it so hard to just leave the partition table alone? | 16:36 |
| diddledan__ | ali1234, yeah it's really sucky that windows is STILL making a mess of multi-boot scenarios | 16:37 |
| ali1234 | this is why i will only ever run windows in a VM | 16:38 |
| daftykins | seen plenty of drama in #ubuntu - not like Linux is immune to woes | 16:43 |
| daftykins | only cool to slate MS though i guess | 16:43 |
| diddledan__ | daftykins, of course. it's all MS' fault. | 16:44 |
| ali1234 | i can't remember the last time linux had a data loss bug | 16:44 |
| diddledan__ | daftykins, just like shauno should feel bad for being an apple fanboy :-p | 16:45 |
| ali1234 | probably btrfs | 16:45 |
| diddledan__ | ali1234, with btrfs, any data loss has been with people that are running it before it's been deemed stable | 16:45 |
| daftykins | diddledan__: :D | 16:45 |
| ali1234 | also completely unrealistic to claim that people only complain about MS | 16:46 |
| diddledan__ | systemd | 16:46 |
| diddledan__ | the borg of software | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | yeah. and gnome 3, and unity, and wayland | 16:46 |
| daftykins | i don't believe that's what i said | 16:46 |
| * diddledan__ borgs daftykins | 16:46 | |
| diddledan__ | /nick diddlekins | 16:47 |
| daftykins | O_@ | 16:47 |
| * daftykins is now known as diddlekins | 16:47 | |
| diddledan__ | or maybe daftydan? | 16:47 |
| Laney | the horror | 17:00 |
| Laney | radio 4 just played some of the pips at 6pm | 17:00 |
| Laney | as well as the bongs | 17:01 |
| Laney | it probably means there's a nuclear attack going on | 17:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | somewhere the british sub commanders are looking up their emergency orders... | 17:05 |
| daftykins | and cracking out the floppies | 17:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | +++evacuate british subjects from rhodesia+++ this will be difficult for a number of reasons... :-P | 17:07 |
| diddledan__ | zmoylan-pi, didn't Boris wonder where that place was? | 17:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | some of boris's teachers probably were born there... | 17:08 |
| DJones | diddledan__: I doubt Boris even knows where the Isle of Wight, Falklands, Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man are | 17:13 |
| DJones | Or Ascension Island | 17:13 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: defending the Channel Islands will also be difficult, so we won't worry about that bit ;) | 17:14 |
| diddledan__ | daftykins, we'll just let you get occupied again | 17:15 |
| daftykins | yep | 17:15 |
| popey | Laney: i flinched too | 17:15 |
| daftykins | and start thinking about giving us back to France | 17:15 |
| daftykins | sacré bleu | 17:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | at least you can then ignore talks about brexit... :-P | 17:16 |
| * DJones puts daftykins on ebay | 17:16 | |
| diddledan__ | popey, Laney, was it like: pip pip booooooong? | 17:16 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: we could to begin with - and did | 17:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | tomorrow it'll be *pip* *pip* *pip* *cuckoo* just to shake things up | 17:17 |
| diddledan__ | lol | 17:17 |
| daftykins | dee-da-dee | 21:12 |
| ali1234 | so kodi-pvr-mythtv in ubuntu doesn't work with the version of mythtv in ubuntu, which is the current stable release | 22:09 |
| ali1234 | the source package claims to be taken from a git repository which doesn't contain the source code | 22:09 |
| ali1234 | and as far as i can tell the claimed version number doesn't exist | 22:10 |
| daftykins | ali1234: how about the PVR addons from the kodi repo? | 22:45 |
| daftykins | assuming you don't have it added | 22:45 |
| ali1234 | there aren't any pvr addons in the kodi repo | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | the category straight up doesn't exist | 22:46 |
| ali1234 | there is a video add on called mythbox which is several years out of date | 22:46 |
| daftykins | hmm surprising | 22:47 |
| ali1234 | there is a ppa which has a newer version of the pvr plugin | 22:48 |
| ali1234 | but when i install it, it just says "the add-on could not be loaded" | 22:48 |
| daftykins | and the log says? | 22:48 |
| ali1234 | 23:45:47 T:140576512505600 ERROR: ADDON: Could not locate pvr.mythtv.so | 22:49 |
| daftykins | wonder if you can pinch it from the other package | 22:49 |
| ali1234 | no need, the ppa installs it | 22:49 |
| ali1234 | /usr/lib/kodi/addons/pvr.mythtv/pvr.mythtv.so | 22:49 |
| ali1234 | kodi just can't find it because apparently it is brain damaged | 22:49 |
| daftykins | maybe looking in the wrong place | 22:50 |
| daftykins | how about throwing it in ~/.kodi/...blah blah | 22:50 |
| ali1234 | oh i see the problem | 22:50 |
| ali1234 | it is supposed to be at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kodi/addons/pvr.mythtv/pvr.mythtv.so | 22:51 |
| ali1234 | i will just make a symlink | 22:51 |
| daftykins | so was this 16.04, where the stable mythtv was updated and kodi-pvr-mythtv wasn't? just to work out where it's stemming from | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | it still doesn't work | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | yes it is 16.04 | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | mythtv 0.28 | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | pvr.mythtv 2.8.0 and 2.8.4 (ppa) | 22:54 |
| ali1234 | oh there's another version bump in 2.8.5 | 22:55 |
| ali1234 | i guess i will just build the package myself then | 22:55 |
| daftykins | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/kodi-pvr-mythtv why are they so different o0 | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | there's found versions of kodi | 22:57 |
| ali1234 | and so there's four versions of the plugin maintained in parallel | 22:58 |
| ali1234 | 1.x is for helix, 2.x is for isengard, 3.x is for jarvis, 4.x is for the dev release | 22:58 |
| daftykins | ah har | 22:59 |
| ali1234 | hey look at that it finally works | 23:05 |
| daftykins | often get folks coming in asking where the PVR addons are, seems to be a mess | 23:06 |
| daftykins | glad i don't touch liveTV setups | 23:06 |
| ali1234 | livetv is literally the only bit i want | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | i might just make my own | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | this was still easier than getting mythtv-frontend to work | 23:08 |
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