[04:03] <ra1v3n> Hello all
[05:07] <superfly> Good evening 
[05:08] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos don't forget to eat your oats this morning, other side you won't grow up to be a big strong man 
[05:08] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:09] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos *otherwise 
[05:09] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:48] <magespawn> good morning
[06:55] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[06:55] <Maaz> thatgraemeguy: By the way, magellanic on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy thanks bro, appreciate the message. yes hetzner support are the best, that particular issue was sorted" 10 hours, 52 minutes and 42 seconds ago
[07:03] <magespawn> hey thatgraemeguy 
[07:05] <inetpro> goeie more mense
[07:43] <ra1v3n> Good mornin
[07:55] <chesedo> good morning superfly thatgraemeguy magespawn inetpro
[07:56] <thatgraemeguy> Hiiiii
[08:09] <magespawn> hi inetpro chesedo 
[08:17] <paddatrapper> Hello everyone 
[08:27] <andrewlsd> Morning everyone
[13:02] <paddatrapper> Well part my old high school burnt down this morning... It was quite a way to wake up! 
[13:32] <superfly> paddatrapper: Muizenberg High?
[13:32] <superfly> Where's Kilos today?
[13:41] <magespawn> superfly he said something about going for his pension today so would lnly be online tonight
[13:41] <superfly> magespawn: ah
[13:42] <superfly> it's quiet without him here
[13:51] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[13:51] <Kilos> hahaha @ superfly
[13:56] <magespawn> Speak of the devil...
[13:56] <Kilos> haha
[13:56] <magespawn> superfly: you should have said something earlier
[13:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[13:56] <Kilos> im gazausted
[13:56] <Kilos> what a mess up things are
[13:58] <Kilos> go for pension, guy there checks all info and fills in the relevanted form then says go have it certified and come back monday
[13:59] <Kilos> miss the 10.15 bus by 10 minutes so wait for 12.10 bus
[13:59] <superfly> Kilos: ai :-(
[14:00] <Kilos> which at 12.30 isnt there yet, so after walk to square to enquire get told drivers inna meeting anfd on strike
[14:00] <Kilos> so took  one of them other taxis half way and got a lift from a friend to plot
[14:00] <Kilos> holy moly
[14:01] <Kilos> hehe what will be will be
[14:01] <Kilos> ke sera sera
[14:02] <paddatrapper> superfly: Wynberg Boys'
[14:02] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper superfly 
[14:02] <Kilos> what did i miss
[14:03] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos
[14:03] <Kilos> seems etihad has free wifi on planes so i can be online here with the lappy if i can find the right power adapter before it flies
[14:05] <superfly> Kilos: paddatrapper's school is burning, or something... these kids, always making up stories to impress people
[14:05] <Kilos> oh my
[14:06] <paddatrapper> One block burned down this morning 
[14:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:07] <Kilos> stay safe frog boots
[14:08] <paddatrapper> Kilos: http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/wynberg-boys-high-closed-after-fire-20160804
[14:08] <paddatrapper> My brothers think it's Christmas - no school for a week in the middle of the term 
[14:09] <Kilos> ai!
[14:15] <andrewlsd> ai. your poor parents ;-)
[14:20] <Kilos> hehe
[16:32] <Langjan> Hi Kilos het jy al jou tandeborsel ingepak?
[17:04] <Kilos> hi Langjan ja man
[17:04] <Kilos> wat pla jou met tande
[17:04] <Kilos> my tande dra ek net as ek uit gaan
[17:04] <Kilos> en haal uit om te eet
[17:04] <Kilos> hehe
[17:07] <Langjan> Lmga, myne lyk onder netso, daar is darem nog 'n paar mieliepitte bo
[17:08] <Kilos> haha
[17:10] <Langjan> Ons gesels effe later, moet eers gaan eet en tande borsel! 
[17:11] <Kilos> lol geniet
[18:04] <magespawn> home time chat later all
[18:04] <Kilos> go safe magespawn 
[18:06] <Kilos> inetpro how can you lest bus drivers strike the first time i need to use a bus in about 50 years
[18:16] <Kilos> s/lest/let
[18:32] <Symmetria> lo all
[18:32] <Symmetria> anyone awake?
[18:33] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[18:33] <Kilos> whats news
[18:33] <Symmetria> Kilos you ever compiled a debian package from source using fakeroot etc?
[18:33] <Kilos>  nope
[18:33] <Symmetria> damn :) I need someone who has
[18:33] <Symmetria> because I'm missing something
[18:33] <Kilos> thats for clever people
[18:34] <Kilos> then hope the right person sees your message tonight
[18:34] <Kilos> maybe ask paddatrapper 
[18:34] <Kilos> or fly
[18:34] <Kilos> or theblazehen 
[18:35] <Kilos> or chesedo 
[18:36] <theblazehen> hi
[18:36] <theblazehen> Symmetria: check out https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm, I hear it's good
[18:39] <tumbleweed> you won't hear that from anyone who regularly works with debian packages :P
[18:39] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed 
[18:40] <tumbleweed> fpm reimplements everything, which saves you learning all those things. But means you have to re-implement everything :P
[18:44] <Symmetria> tumbleweed
[18:45] <Symmetria> how the hell do I pass a configure option
[18:45] <Symmetria> to a package when I'm rebuilding it
[18:45] <Symmetria> from source
[18:45] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: you edit debian/rules
[18:45] <tumbleweed> which package?
[18:46] <tumbleweed> how you do it will depend on which build system they are using
[18:47] <tumbleweed> but there are only a small handful of possibilities
[18:48] <Symmetria> trying to rebuild bind
[18:48] <Symmetria> to enable with-tuning=large 
[18:48] <Symmetria> think I may have figured it out but will find out in a second, this is driving me nuts ;p
[18:49] <Symmetria> ok its rebuilding, and I THINK its got the option enabled 
[18:49] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:49] <Symmetria> heh as a note - bind without serious tweaking really doesnt like insane load on DNS queries
[18:49] <tumbleweed> right, it already has lots of configure args in there, so you just add to the list
[18:49] <Symmetria> it kinda chokes when you start hitting around 4k queries a second
[18:57] <Langjan> Hi Kilos , slaap jy nog nie?
[18:57] <Kilos> haha amper
[18:57] <Kilos> baie moeg na vandag 
[18:58] <Langjan> Waar was jy?
[18:58] <Langjan> Hosp toe?
[18:58] <Kilos> gaan aansoek doen vir pensioen
[18:58] <Langjan> Hoe het dit gegaan?
[18:59] <Kilos> hulle vat al jou goed en vul in n form en gee dit vir jou en se vat dit na die poloisie en kom maandag terug
[18:59] <Langjan> Eish! Dan weer in die tou sit...
[19:00] <Kilos> toe wag ons vir 12 uur bus en drywers in vergdering en staak sommer daar en dan
[19:00] <Kilos> tou nie die probleem nie die houe is
[19:00] <Kilos> dit was vrek koud 6 uur vanoggend
[19:01] <Langjan> Ai man, moet jy nou weer Maandag bus ry?
[19:02] <Kilos> wel ons kry lift van hier to bo in schoeman straat inna oggend en dan is dit of bus tot hercules of wag tot 5uur vir selle  lift
[19:02] <Kilos> die ou werk in midrand
[19:03] <Langjan> Sjoe, wel hoop dit gaan Maandag beter. 
[19:03] <Kilos> dankie oom
[19:03] <Kilos> ek sal more probeer daai mense in die hande kry
[19:03] <Langjan> Slaaptyd?
[19:04] <Langjan> Ja gaaf ek kan nie glo die goed is nog nie daar nie.
[19:04] <Kilos> hahadis my geluk
[19:04] <Kilos> murphy bly op my skouer
[19:05] <Kilos> maar als sal uitwerk
[19:05] <Kilos> debs huil van geluk dat ek einde van die maand vlieg
[19:06] <Langjan> Ai dis darem iets om na uit te sien
[19:06] <Kilos> tot n swar taxi gery vandag
[19:06] <Kilos> swart
[19:06] <Kilos> hehe
[19:06] <Langjan> Jy moet sommer daar in Oz wegraak in die bos
[19:07] <Kilos> ek dink ook aan die wegraak storie
[19:07] <Langjan> daai taxis is seker 'n ondervinding, kan gevaarlik wees soos hulle ry
[19:07] <Kilos> net te veel in maar anders nie te sleg nie
[19:08] <Kilos> drywer het mooi  bestuur
[19:08] <Langjan> Ja jy's gelukkig as jy 'n goeie een kry. Daar in Oz is nie ID's nie, jou woonadres is jou ID
[19:08] <Kilos> en dis R12 van bloed straat en van der walt tot by hercules
[19:08] <Kilos> haha
[19:08] <Langjan> So as jy toer is jou adres jou woonwa
[19:09] <Kilos> lmga
[19:09] <magellanic> greets
[19:09] <Kilos> hi magellanic 
[19:09] <Langjan> En die bis is groot, die kuslyn is 60 000 km lank en daar is net 21 miljoen mense in die hele Oz
[19:09] <theblazehen> Did I mention how I can do `make clean; make -j` on the linux kernel in around 5 min? Kinda cool
[19:10] <Kilos> lol
[19:10] <theblazehen> Used to take around 3 hours on netbook
[19:12] <Langjan> Kilos, is there some trick re jumpers or similar to combining an SSD with a second hard drive in the same box? 
[19:12] <Kilos> hdd must be slave
[19:13] <Kilos> or on another cable completely
[19:13] <Langjan> ok thks, either or
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <Langjan> serious
[19:14] <Langjan> slave or separate cable
[19:14] <Kilos> if you use and ide cable
[19:14] <Kilos> then you can plug hdd on end plug but must be slave then
[19:14] <Kilos> thats with thick ide cable
[19:14] <Langjan> its 4-pin cable socket is blanked off
[19:15] <Langjan> which is ide?
[19:15] <Kilos> on thin sata cable it shouldnt matter
[19:15] <Langjan> small or wide cable?
[19:15] <Langjan> ok tks
[19:15] <Kilos> ide is broad ribbon cable
[19:15] <Kilos> sata narrow on 
[19:15] <Kilos> one
[19:16] <Langjan> and the small cable is power supply?
[19:16] <Kilos> ill be here tomorrow if you battle
[19:16] <Kilos> no man
[19:16] <Kilos> ai!
[19:16] <Kilos> drive cables come in ide which is broad ribbon
[19:16] <Langjan> both have two cables, a wider and a smaller one
[19:16] <Kilos> or sata which is narrow cable
[19:17] <Kilos> sata is maybe 1/2 inch
[19:17] <Kilos> ide is maybe 2 inches
[19:17] <Kilos> lemme measure
[19:18] <Langjan> were at cross purposes
[19:18] <Kilos> oh
[19:18] <Langjan> I understand the diff, 
[19:18] <Langjan> between sata and ide
[19:18] <Kilos> explain then what you need to know
[19:18] <Langjan> but both have a wider and a smaller cable
[19:19] <Kilos> no man
[19:19] <Langjan> yes man
[19:19] <Kilos> the sata drive uses a broader plug for power
[19:19] <Langjan> not the cable, the plug
[19:19] <Kilos> ide uses the 4 pin power connector
[19:20] <Kilos> sata are skinny plugs
[19:20] <Kilos> one narrow one wider
[19:20] <Kilos> wider one is power
[19:20] <Langjan> yes but one is much wider than the other
[19:20] <Langjan> oh
[19:21] <Langjan> wider is power in both sata and ide?
[19:21] <Kilos> no
[19:21] <Kilos> ide use wide plug for data and narrow 4 pin for power
[19:22] <Kilos> you unnerstand
[19:22] <Langjan> Yes. This one has a plastic cover over 4 pin plug
[19:23] <Kilos> power ide
[19:23] <Langjan> so it has two places for power
[19:23] <Kilos> and a many pin section for wide ide cable for data
[19:23] <Kilos> no man
[19:23] <Langjan> and one for data
[19:24] <Kilos> take a pic of the drive on the plugs end 
[19:24] <Kilos> then ill explain
[19:25] <Kilos> one section is where you set master/slave/cable thing
[19:25] <Kilos> where the jumpers go
[19:26] <Langjan> Yes I know where the jumpers go
[19:26] <Kilos> only those 4 fatpins are for power
[19:27] <Langjan> Mine has 4 fatpins and sata connector
[19:27] <Langjan> for power
[19:28] <Kilos> take a pic of it
[19:28] <Langjan> sending pic
[19:31] <Langjan> But we can chat tomorrow, jy moet slaap
[19:32] <Kilos> lemme just see
[19:34] <Langjan> I sent another pic with plug cover on over 4-pin 
[19:34] <Kilos> bit blury but looks like it can take the power plugs of either type
[19:35] <Langjan> yes but that really confused me especially when you said the sata has power on the wide plug
[19:37] <Kilos> yesd very left is sata power
[19:37] <Kilos> the sata data
[19:37] <Kilos> some power supplies dont have sata power plugs so maybe they made that drive so it could use both
[19:38] <Kilos> try first using only sata cables
[19:38] <Kilos> then in home you should see it if its working
[19:39] <Langjan> I have but will have to get another cable, had to use the one from the cd drive
[19:39] <Langjan> to test
[19:40] <Kilos> if it shows then get other cable for cd
[19:40] <Kilos> with some playing you can make the hdd your /home
[19:40] <Kilos> or storage
[19:41] <Langjan> Yes but thats for another day, OK nou moet jy gaan slaap seuntjie
[19:41] <Kilos> lol ok dankie oom
[19:41] <Kilos> lekker slaap julle ook
[19:41] <Langjan> its 160 Gb nice clean drive
[19:41] <Kilos> great
[19:42] <Langjan> ok jy moet ook lekker slaap 
[19:42] <Kilos> dankie
[19:42] <Langjan> will put kde on there for the kids to play with
[19:42] <Kilos> lol
[19:42] <Kilos> yes 
[19:42] <Kilos> let them teach the old man 
[19:42] <Langjan> lmga, lekker slaap en hoop jy is more goed uitgerus
[19:42] <Langjan> yes
[19:42] <Kilos> dankie my vriend
[19:43] <Langjan> always ready to learn
[19:43] <Kilos> haha
[19:43] <Kilos> nono you forget too quick
[19:43] <Kilos> oh
[19:43] <Kilos> wait
[19:43] <Kilos> listen carefully
[19:43] <Kilos> are you listening Langjan 
[19:43] <Langjan> ja man
[19:43] <Kilos> ??
[19:43] <Langjan> in spanning
[19:43] <Kilos> turmeric poder
[19:43] <Kilos> borrie
[19:44] <Langjan> ja?
[19:44] <Langjan> goeie goed
[19:44] <Kilos> meng in of vet of um
[19:44] <Langjan> maar sleg, uggggh
[19:44] <Kilos> daai ander olie
[19:45] <Langjan> flaxseed?
[19:45] <Kilos> olive oil
[19:45] <Kilos> or coconut oil
[19:45] <Kilos> then add black pepper
[19:45] <Kilos> rejuvenates memmory
[19:45] <Kilos> you need lots
[19:45] <Langjan> kick on the ass does the same
[19:45] <Kilos> you too far to kick
[19:46] <Kilos> it works
[19:46] <Langjan> lucky me
[19:46] <Langjan> yes its good stuff
[19:46] <Kilos> black pepper increases the turmeric power by 10 times
[19:46] <Langjan> you really need it if you use kde
[19:46] <Langjan> I can do without
[19:47] <Kilos> turmeric must have fat or those 2 oils to be able to get past guts
[19:47] <Langjan> interesting
[19:47] <Kilos> ok i treid
[19:47] <Kilos> tried
[19:47] <Kilos> i dont sit all day fixing kde which doesnt break
[19:47] <Langjan> well done! I'll make a note and get my cook onto it 
[19:48] <Kilos> i do research to use up all my free data
[19:48] <Kilos> ok sir . have a good night
[19:48] <Langjan> researching sheep
[19:48] <Kilos> ai!
[19:48] <Langjan> tel lekker skape tot jy slaap
[19:48] <Langjan> chat again tomorrow
[19:49] <Langjan> groete van Chris Dames
[19:49] <Kilos> dankie baie
[19:49] <Kilos> selle terug
[19:50] <Langjan> Sal doen dankie rustige nag Kilos 
[19:50] <Kilos> dankie
[20:21] <andrewlsd> Night all 
[20:47] <chaos505> hello