[00:00] <SoulofAeons> Hello everyone!
[00:02] <Toxtlo> Hi, is it possible to encrypt the hard drive 'after' I already installed ubuntu? or do I have to reinstall and enable encryption?
[00:03] <Seek> do you guys have any tips on how to make my games run better?
[00:04] <tgm4883> Toxtlo: I think reinstall. You can do the home directory after install, but not the whole drive
[00:05] <Toxtlo> mhh ok, is this "secure" or can I get a better method of encrypting my whole hard drive?
[00:06] <AmazingAlex224> hi
[00:06] <Seek> dont thay have that in the ubuntu installer
[00:06] <Seek> yo
[00:07] <AmazingAlex224> ok so i have a intel atom processor, and like a 32 bit shell, is there any way to get a 64 bit shell using a 32 bit shell? like efi shells
[00:07] <AmazingAlex224> im using shell because when i go to boot manager and try to boot up a dif os it goes right to window
[00:07] <AmazingAlex224> windows 10*
[00:08] <AmazingAlex224> i mean i dont "need" 64 bit but it would be nice to have for extra ram on java
[00:08] <lordcirth> AmazingAlex224, is your Atom 32 or 64bit?
[00:08] <tgm4883> Seek: It's secure enough for most uses
[00:08] <Jordan_U> AmazingAlex224: So you have a 64 bit processor on a motherboard with 32 bit UEFI firmware?
[00:08] <OerHeks> LOLz "i mean i dont "need" 64 bit but it would be nice to have for extra ram on java" ... are you for real AmazingAlex224 ??
[00:08] <AmazingAlex224> on windows it says x64 architecture
[00:08] <AmazingAlex224> but the manufactor but a 32bit shell on it
[00:09] <lordcirth> AmazingAlex224, a 32bit EFI shell?
[00:09] <AmazingAlex224> yes
[00:09]  * YankDownUnder thinks it's time to change undies...
[00:09] <Seek> AmazingAlex224 ok so is ubuntu installed to you computer or is it on a virualbox
[00:09] <OerHeks> 32 bit cannot run 64 bit  shells
[00:10] <AmazingAlex224> its not installed on my tablet but i have it on my main pc
[00:10] <Seek> that happen to me when i was on windows so i installed ubuntu as my main operrater
[00:10] <GnomeKris> this guy has the same gpu as mine, and had to bypass hdmi audio entirely...I'm hoping this isn't the solution
[00:10] <GnomeKris> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321631
[00:11] <Seek> you might need to change it in you bios
[00:11] <Seek> and allow accses to us it for 64 bit
[00:11] <AmazingAlex224> i feel like i have a downgraded bios like it only has 3 tabs
[00:12] <jamie_1> is it possible to install a daily build and have it update as its changed or like daily if i pleased?
[00:12] <AmazingAlex224> only fast boot
[00:12] <Jordan_U> AmazingAlex224: You're not going to be able to get 64 bit UEFI, but it is possible to run a 64 bit kernel with 32 bit UEFI. I don't know how well supported such a configuration is in Ubuntu.
[00:12] <pushpop> Hi All, I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm trying to get the right video card drivers installed to play Steam games.  I have the following video card => http://pastebin.com/aTRRZLbb  I've been trying to get the right drivers installed for hours.  Any suggestions?
[00:12] <AmazingAlex224> what is ur video card
[00:12] <pushpop> AmazingAlex224, see pastebin
[00:12] <Jordan_U> jamie_1: For daily development builds of Ubuntu ask in #ubuntu+1 .
[00:13] <jamie_1> thanks Jordan_U
[00:13] <pushpop> AmazingAlex224, [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
[00:13] <Jordan_U> jamie_1: You're welcome.
[00:13] <OerHeks> pushpop, if it was suitable, it would load the latest AMDgpu driver, opensource.
[00:14] <Seek> did you allow them when you installed ubuntu? it will ask if you want to install 3rd party stuff like drivers
[00:14] <pushpop> I never received such prompt.
[00:14] <Seek> and a good recorder/steaming tool is obs and you can get it for all os's
[00:15] <OerHeks> pushpop, see the releasenotes
[00:15] <Drone4four> my system hangs for ~90 seconds at boot with some message indicating a problem with usb 3-9: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[00:15] <Drone4four> what could be my issue? http://pastebin.com/e8dUrUCR
[00:16] <pushpop> OerHeks, what release notes?
[00:16] <Drone4four> that's my paste bin
[00:16] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[00:16] <OerHeks> pushpop, ^^
[00:17] <Steven_M> Bashing-om: YankDownUnder: Sorry, yeah, I downloaded the package from Brother's web site. The drivers didn't work with my scanner, so now I want the package off my system altogether.
[00:19] <pushpop> OerHeks, what that sucks
[00:19] <pushpop> so I can't take advantage of my nice video card in ubuntu
[00:19] <OerHeks> opendriver works fine here, youtube full screen
[00:20] <pushpop> works fine here
[00:20] <pushpop> not for vmware 3d
[00:20] <pushpop> and steam games however
[00:21] <Seek> pushpop  so its when you are in a game it lags i am guessing?
[00:21] <bazhang> pushpop, the 280X?
[00:21] <pushpop> bazhang, YES
[00:21] <pushpop> Seek, steam won't even run
[00:22] <bazhang> pushpop, that card is not superb, it's many years old now
[00:22] <Seek> have you installed it using via terminal
[00:22] <pushpop> bazhang, yes but works for the games I play
[00:22] <bazhang> pushpop, check what the steam requirements are
[00:23] <bazhang> pushpop, if that card is supported, its at the very tail end of what will work at all
[00:23] <Seek> did you istall steam like this
[00:24] <Seek> sudo apt-get install steam
[00:24] <pushpop> no deb from website
[00:24] <bazhang> !info steam
[00:24] <OerHeks> not really important how he installed steam, Seek , he wants better drivers
[00:25] <tgm4883> I wouldn't say it's at the end. The 280X has enough power. However AMD needs to release some better drivers for it
[00:25] <bazhang> does the amdgpu even cover such an older card
[00:25] <Seek> i was just wondering of how he installed it
[00:25] <OerHeks> AMD Radeon R9 285, R9 380/380X and R9 Fury/FuryX graphics cards will be supported out-of-the-box by the AMDgpu
[00:25] <Seek> my friend could not get it only if he did it threw terminal it worked
[00:25] <tgm4883> bazhang: not yet no. IDK if they will in the future either, but radeon would support it
[00:26] <OerHeks> no 280
[00:26] <pushpop> tgm4883, is it even possible to get it working at all to play atl east CS:GO
[00:26] <bazhang> thanks tgm4883
[00:26] <tgm4883> pushpop: currently, you're probably better off installing 14.04 and fglrx
[00:26] <pushpop> or upgrade video card.
[00:26] <pushpop> =)
[00:27] <tgm4883> well yes, that too
[00:27] <tgm4883> You could get a nvidia card
[00:27] <tgm4883> like a 1080
[00:28] <pushpop> haha $$$$
[00:28] <GnomeKris> The first person who's solution is a direct result of fixing my lack of sound on my ubuntu 16.04 instalation will recieve $50USD via paypal
[00:28] <rosgani> GnomeKris wow the sound is nice mate :)
[00:31] <GnomeKris> It would be nice...If it was working.
[00:35] <B0g4r7> Hey guys.  Can you help me fix my laptop?  Thanks.
[00:35] <B0g4r7> First problem: I hated network-manager and somehow murdered it, so now all of my interface configuration is manual.  Now I find that I miss the darned thing, and I want it back.  I don't remember what I did to murder it.  How can I make it work again?
[00:42] <B0g4r7> While that one's digesting, second problem: I had a problem with the keyboard where the P key didn't work, so I somehow remapped the ; key to be P.  Now P works again and again I want to undo the remapping, but again I don't remember how I did it.
[00:42] <B0g4r7> My problems are similar, but different.
[00:44] <bocephus_> i have something that is just stuck from software center not installing  How can i remove it?
[00:45] <bocephus_> dont see it in top.  Tried restarting
[00:45] <shakermaker> whats the name of app thats stuck
[00:45] <bocephus_> tweak tool.
[00:46] <shakermaker> did u search for it in ps
[00:46] <shakermaker> ps -ef | grep tweak
[00:46] <bocephus_> nope
[00:46] <shakermaker> nope u didnt search for it
[00:46] <shakermaker> or nope u did and it wasnt there
[00:47] <bocephus_> didnt look.
[00:47] <bocephus_> Just tried I get to PID`s one I can kill the other -no such process
[00:48] <shakermaker> wait so u see the pid for tweel tool
[00:49] <shakermaker> tweak tool in ps?
[00:49] <bocephus_> yes...I think?  bocephu+ 12056 12022  0 17:46 pts/18   00:00:00 grep --color=auto tweak
[00:49] <shakermaker> no thats the grep pid itself
[00:49] <bocephus_> the 12056 & 12022  ....?
[00:49] <shakermaker> so it is not running
[00:49] <bocephus_> ahh okay
[00:50] <shakermaker> is it stuck at installing?
[00:50] <bocephus_> whoopsy!
[00:50] <shakermaker> if software center is stuck in prgoress
[00:50] <shakermaker> try
[00:50] <shakermaker> sudo dpkg --configure-a
[00:51] <bocephus_> whats the --configure-a?
[00:51] <shakermaker> do man dpkg
[00:51] <bocephus_> ahh just looked it up
[00:51] <shakermaker> if u want to read the details
[00:52] <shakermaker> "Configure a package which has been unpacked but not yet  config‐
[00:52] <shakermaker>               ured.   If  -a  or  --pending  is  given instead of package, all
[00:52] <shakermaker>               unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.
[00:52] <shakermaker> sorry chat room. screwed up there.... with the paste..
[00:52] <arooni> how do i restart services in ubuntu 16.04 ?  sudo service samba restart doesnt seem to work
[00:52] <shakermaker> sudo systemctl restart
[00:53] <shakermaker> sudo systemctl restart smbd.service
[00:53] <nacc> arooni: i think it's just because samba isn't the name of the service
[00:53] <nacc> as shakermaker points out it's smbd
[00:53] <arooni> ah gotcha ; thanks
[00:53] <arooni> so is sytemctl better than sudo service blah restart ?
[00:54] <shakermaker> ubuntu 16 now uses systemd
[00:54] <shakermaker> ubuntu 14 was using upstart
[00:54] <nacc> arooni: service ends up aliasing to what systemctl does under the covers, iirc
[00:54] <shakermaker> different init
[00:55] <shakermaker> google it to understand... systemd vs upstart
[00:55] <nacc> arooni: service technically works on all 3 init systems (sysv, upstart, systemd); systemctl only supports systemd
[00:55] <nacc> arooni: i'd read (if you have the time...) `man service` and `man systemctl` to see the differences :)
[00:55] <OerHeks> short: yes, it is better. ( to get used to the commands now)
[00:56] <nacc> heh
[00:56] <OerHeks> but both commands will work, see it as a transit
[00:56] <orlock> So
[00:56] <orlock> Where do we go to ask about ubuntu on windows?
[00:56] <orlock> sshd isnt working
[00:56] <orlock> neither is mtr
[00:57] <Jordan_U> orlock: #ubuntu-on-windows
[01:02] <ChrisP_> I'm back if any one has suggestions on my gnome desktop issue
[01:09] <GnomeKris> Still no sound....I wish someone would come up with something I haven't tried yet. Headphones work...not hdmi.
[01:10] <tatertots> laptop or desktop and what gpu GnomeKris?
[01:10] <GnomeKris> Ubuntu recognizes the hdmi output. has controls for it and all...but in alsamixer, it just shows six "s/pdif" options...all set to 00
[01:10] <GnomeKris> gpu is amd radeon r9 380
[01:10] <GnomeKris> Desktop
[01:10] <compdoc> GnomeKris, bios update?
[01:10] <tatertots> what ubuntu version ?
[01:11] <GnomeKris> as up to date as they'll get. Ubuntu 16.04.1 clean install
[01:11] <tatertots> nope not going to work
[01:11] <GnomeKris> Why?
[01:11] <rabbitdew> I'm trying to pxeboot ubuntu 14.04, the installer starts and runs. But then it fails looking for /dists/trusty-updates/restricted/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages. The path does not exist. Why does it keep looking there?
[01:12] <Abe_> exit
[01:12] <tatertots> hdmi audio not supported with amdgpu / anything that's not the proprietary amd driver
[01:12] <GnomeKris> If it's broken, and isn't going to work...then where is it listed as broken?
[01:12] <GnomeKris> I can't find anywhere that says that
[01:13] <tatertots> you want some links?
[01:14] <GnomeKris> absolutely
[01:14] <lightblue> Hi, I've switched to another video driver in "additional drivers" in ubuntu 16.04, after that, the fonts in the tty have become very large like they've been soaked in water, I tried to switched the driver back but the fonts stayed the same, how do I change the fonts as they were?
[01:14] <Abe_> xD doesn't this Terminal look cool? kinda like Fallout :D http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=10186167
[01:15] <tatertots> https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[01:17] <tatertots> hold on i'm finding a couple more
[01:17] <Abe_> if somebody want's it you can get it here https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
[01:17] <rabbitdew> join ubuntu-server
[01:17] <rabbitdew> meow
[01:18] <Fudgie> Where do I start. I've figured out how to setup chroot with SFTP however users can only put files in a seperate directory when they connect e.g. /writeable
[01:19] <Fudgie> It looks ugly and its annoying. Is there any way around this.
[01:19] <Fudgie> I just want the users to be jailed and / in SFTP is their directory to put files
[01:20] <GnomeKris> So let me get this straight...There are steam games that REQUIRE the opensource amd drivers in order to play...yet those drivers still don't have sound?
[01:20] <GnomeKris> because the driver still doesn't support hdmi audio out?
[01:21] <GnomeKris> Also, it's 2016...Who still uses anything OTHER than hdmi or dvi output on their pc anymore? Especially within the group of people who are savvy enough to actually install and use anything other that winblows?
[01:22] <GnomeKris> Why would they release a driver that's broken?
[01:22] <Fudgie> I use VGA and HDMI :P
[01:22] <Fudgie> Well actually HDMI and Display Port now
[01:22] <Fudgie> But still used VGA at some point
[01:22] <orlock> i remember when we had to compile beta drivers from the source
[01:22] <orlock> and we were lucky if they didnt lock the machine up completely
[01:22] <GnomeKris> I meant displayport not dvi. damn. sorry
[01:22] <orlock> AND WE WERE THANKFULL FOR EVEN THAT
[01:23] <tatertots> I have a amd cape verde gpu and my hdmi audio works fine
[01:23] <OerHeks> If HDMI output has stopped working, muting and then unmuting the SPDIF output in alsamixer can cause the sound to start working again - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:24] <GnomeKris> Well, I'm currently installing amdgpu-pro drivers to see if that solves anything...
[01:24] <GnomeKris> fingers crossed...and hopefully I can still play my steam games that require the mesa drivers
[01:25] <Jordan_U> GnomeKris: Might be worth trying AMD GPU Pro drivers.
[01:25] <Jordan_U> GnomeKris: Never mind, I guess you found that yourself already :)
[01:31] <tatertots> Fudgie which fpt server did you install?
[01:31] <Fudgie> Sftp is using the built in SSHD
[01:31] <Fudgie> for FTP (which appears to refuse to work) VSFTP
[01:36] <truexfan81> ok i can see this is going to be loads of fun to get working
[01:38] <OerHeks> fun included
[01:38] <truexfan81> ubuntu for windows, trying to start apache2 service
[01:38] <truexfan81> (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[01:38] <truexfan81> (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[01:39] <truexfan81> no clue what could possibly be having port 80 in use
[01:40] <Blue1> truexfan81: in the U.S., incoming port 80 is blocked by isps.
[01:40] <truexfan81> Blue1: which would be a problem if i was trying to share it on the net, which i'm not, this is for local network only
[01:41] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: Absolutely no support for Ubuntu on Windows in this channel.
[01:42] <Blue1> on yeah - -
[01:45] <House> hi all, how do ufw rules interact?  eg: "deny all 22" & "allow 22 from 10/8" ?  do they have to be ordered? does it always apply most restrictive? least restrictive? narrowest match criterion?
[01:45] <tatertots> is network connectivity outside of apache functional? @ truexfan81
[01:46] <truexfan81> tatertots: it is now, i found the problem, skype client was hogging port 80
[01:46] <Blue1> DOH
[01:47] <tatertots> good deal glad you found what was causing the problem
[01:47] <Seek> you can change the Skype port fyi
[01:48] <GnomeKris> Installing amdgpu-pro drivers, then opening additional drivers (which only provides one option for drivers, and it's not open source, nor gpu-pro), then select "do not use this device"...Audio works..all video seems to work so far..
[01:48] <truexfan81> next problem, the repos doesn't seem to have libstdc++6:i386
[01:48] <GnomeKris> No problems now...
[01:48] <tatertots> House what port(s) are you suspecting of being blocked?
[01:48] <GnomeKris> So tell me again why 16.04 ships with broken drivers?
[01:48] <Blue1> GnomeKris: What's wrong with the nouveau (sp) driver?
[01:49] <dax> Blue1: ... it's for nvidia, not AMD :P?
[01:50] <Blue1> dax: I am have major duh issues tonight - thank you!
[01:50] <House> tatertots: I want to know what will happen if i do a "deny all 22" & "allow 22 from 10/8", is it going to block me from 10.0.0.20 based on the deny rule, or will it let me through because i match the allow rule?
[01:51] <truexfan81> apt-get install lib32stdc++6 ... i would never have thought of that
[01:51] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, likely your card is not suitable for the AMDgpu driver.
[01:51] <OerHeks> R9 285 and up
[01:52] <tatertots> glad you got it working :)
[01:54] <Seek> hey whats up
[01:55] <tgm4883> House: depends on which rule is first I think
[02:03] <miharu> so... I've found .installer filetype after unpacking from a tar.gz (not entering directory yet, software directory not created). How do I install?
[02:04] <House> thanks tgm4883
[02:05] <miharu> Anyway the software is not available on the repo, and it has no .deb package?
[02:05] <OerHeks> miklcct, does it come with a readme? or their site gives a clue?
[02:10] <Seek> does anyone know how to fix really bad fram lag when i am playing a game
[02:12] <OerHeks> select less graphical options, play fullscreen instead of windowed mode, buy better hardware
[02:12] <tatertots> what gpu do you have seek? and what game are you playing ?
[02:13] <Seek> left 4 dead 2 and Garrys Mod
[02:13] <Seek> but it was fine on windows
[02:14] <tatertots> what gpu do you own?
[02:14] <OerHeks> bad lag .. you die in the game?
[02:15] <Seek> intel ivybrigde
[02:15] <juanonymous> tried installing postfix in ubuntu but each time i tried testing it to send a mail to any of my emails it fails..
[02:16] <Seek> ight
[02:18] <rosgani> FYI: Canonical Plans to Unify and Clean Up Networking Configuration in Ubuntu Linux
[02:18] <rosgani> Read more: http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-plans-to-unify-and-clean-up-networking-configuration-in-ubuntu-linux-506957.shtml
[02:18] <tgm4883> rosgani: off topic for this channel
[02:19] <OerHeks> suitable for #ubuntu-discuss
[02:20] <Seek> ok so my friend keeps trying to install ubuntu but he keeps getting a black screen when he get to the update part and he cant accses the grub menu becuase it is not fully installed yet
[02:22] <^5> Time to test out bash in Windows!
[02:26] <seek> i am a retard i just ctrl+alt+f8 i was trying to skip a sone *DO NOT DO IT*
[02:27] <seek> song*
[02:27] <watermark> why?
[02:28] <YankDownUnder> There is no X server running on VT8...so you get nothing...a blank screen.
[02:28] <seek> yep and it scred the shit out of me lmfao
[02:28] <pauljw_vm> so, just go back to f7 where x is running.
[02:29] <seek> i am used to vps's not the desktop sorry :(
[02:29] <pauljw_vm> :)
[02:29] <YankDownUnder> I love to freak out clients with switching from vt1 through vt7 - always interesting responses...
[02:30] <seek> i am going to look it up i have never seen it
[02:31] <watermark> seek: I am more a retard than you then
[02:31] <lordcirth> seek, it is very useful if your desktop freezes for some reason.
[02:31] <pauljw_vm> if you switch users and log in as someone else, that user will be on f8
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> If the "X server" freezes...
[02:32] <seek> watermark: bet lmfao
[02:32] <watermark> seek: I just tried the crtl+alt+f8 and rebooted
[02:32] <seek> i want to start making linux videos idk should i to me it sounds fun
[02:32] <seek> lmfao
[02:33] <watermark> seek: heh i'm still a beginner
[02:33] <seek> nah you were just wondering what it does i did it to skip a song lmfao
[02:33] <seek> all good
[02:33] <watermark> neverthless I have a question
[02:33] <watermark> about nvidia drivers
[02:34] <watermark> should I install the nivdia drivers on the "additional drivers" panel for my gfx card... it seems... to generate problems on my ubuntu desktop
[02:34] <seek> i was always hosting gaming servers and i used Ubuntu vps's based servers that is why every thing i do is done by the terminal  mostly
[02:34] <EriC^^> pauljw_vm: that's pretty interesting
[02:34] <pauljw_vm> yep
[02:34] <seek> brb
[02:35] <EriC^^> pauljw_vm: you don't even need to enter the password to switch users at times..
[02:35] <EriC^^> seems like a bug
[02:35] <YankDownUnder> watermark: Before doing so, you might want to look through the wiki for issues related to your particular card.
[02:35] <lordcirth> watermark, well, do you need the performance?  If not, don't bother
[02:35] <pauljw_vm> yeah, seems once you unlock it it stays unlocked
[02:35] <watermark> YankDownUnder: thanks for info
[02:35] <watermark> lordcirth: I rarely need 3D performance on my ubuntu no... so...
[02:36] <watermark> so I guess i'd better stick to x org
[02:36] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know if ubuntu 16LTS will run on the macbook pro 11,5  ?
[02:36] <lordcirth> watermark, you would be using xorg regardless of driver
[02:37] <watermark> lordcirth: I understand what you mean
[02:38] <watermark> by the way I noticed recently FOXIT PDF READER has released a linux version yay!
[02:38] <watermark> because there wasn't a decent pdf viewer before imo
[02:39] <phablet> ping
[02:40] <lit> hello
[02:40] <lit> guys i have a problem; when my pc awakes from suspend the cursor disseapers
[02:41] <lit> it reappears after i log back in
[02:41] <lit> i searched google but havent found anything solid
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> lit: Does the cursor come back if you go to the console and then back to the desktop? (going from CTRL-ALT-F1 then back with CTRL-ALT-F7)
[02:42] <lit> by console do you mean terminal?
[02:43] <YankDownUnder> lit: No - as per what I just wrote.
[02:43] <lit> i havent tried those hotkeys
[02:43] <lit> i can try it
[02:51] <arooni> YankDownUnder: you still around?  does your solution i asked you about earlier (mounting ubuntu drives for use on mac os x) auto mount?  or must it be done manually.  i have my samba share set up but arq doesnt seem to like it :(
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> arooni: You can set it up to do so - I have it setup "both ways" - from linux to the Mac, and from the Mac to linux...
[02:52] <arooni> YankDownUnder: cool;
[02:52] <arooni> i'm going to set it up and see if its any snappier than samba
[02:53] <arooni> what was it called again?
[02:54] <YankDownUnder> arooni: SMB transfers always kinda suck from an OSX box or to an OSX box...the package can be quickly installed in a terminal with: sudo apt-get install netatalk
[02:55] <truexfan81> what is the replacement for ia32bit libs? cause without it my game's binary won't run, ldd reports not a dynamic executable
[02:56] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know if ubuntu 16LTS will run on the macbook pro 11,5  ?
[02:57] <YankDownUnder> truexfan81: Mind you, I don't do gaming - however, aren't you doing it the hard way round? Wouldn't it be smarter to find out about your game running on Ubuntu 16.04 and how it's done - instead of trying to get the system to do something it's not necessarily setup to do?
[02:58] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: Yes.
[02:58] <tatertots> what exact error do you get truexfan81? and what game does it occur? and version of ubuntu and are you using steam or something else like wine?
[02:58] <truexfan81> its linux server files for an mmo called Forsaken World
[02:59] <tatertots> so steam or not steam?
[02:59] <truexfan81> not steam
[03:00] <truexfan81> as far as i know the only 32bit libs it needs are glibc and compat-libstdc++-33
[03:01] <arooni> YankDownUnder: how do i configure some kind of password to connect?  and how do i auto start it ?
[03:01] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Please be slightly, if not more, specific...?
[03:01] <truexfan81> which i thought i had installed but ubuntu package management and package naming makes it hard to tell for sure
[03:03] <theorem> curious
[03:04] <theorem> how do I enable alternate audio tracks on an  mkv file ?
[03:04] <arooni> YankDownUnder: ok i guess first things first;  i followed this guide https://kremalicious.com/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ ;; but when it came to the last step to connect as my ubuntu user/password; i get the error message: "There was a problem connecting to the serer"  The version of the software you atre trying to connect to is not supported...
[03:04] <YankDownUnder> theorem: Depends on what you're using to play the MKV with...
[03:04] <theorem> I have a video that seems to have a human talking track and a separate background track.
[03:04] <theorem> I ma using totme and VLC
[03:05] <tatertots> you'll find that in the menu of the playback application being used theorem
[03:05] <theorem> they both seem to play only the background track
[03:05] <truexfan81> E: Unable to locate package glibc-2.19-1-i386  E: Unable to locate package glibc-2.19-1:i386
[03:05] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: I told you quite clearly that there is no Ubuntu on Windows support in this channel. It wastes people's time with the odd quicks of NT's linux emulation. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[03:05] <truexfan81> ... what is it called?
[03:05] <theorem> tatertots: I thought os too ...
[03:05] <theorem> *so
[03:05] <tatertots> example if there was a english language and french language and a person wants to switch between
[03:06] <tatertots> you'd enter the menu of the playback application and pick audio track#1 / french or track#2 english...something to that effect
[03:06] <theorem> tatertots: yes, I only see 1 track   --  "track 1 - [English]"
[03:07] <theorem> it's very odd that the character audio is not played.
[03:08] <YankDownUnder> arooni: WTF - sorry, this article is vastly outdated, mate...seriously...
[03:08] <tatertots> theorem were you expecting more than a single audio track on that file?...you can observe any files properties and determine how many audio tracks are present in the file
[03:08] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Ya know how much time it took to setup this machine (this linux server/workstation) for access? Like two minutes. The only thing I did was install "netatalk" - nothing more, nothing less. Easy as pie.
[03:09] <theorem> tatertots: since the speech is missing from the video, I was expecting more
[03:10] <theorem> tatertots: I expected that the single audio track would have human speech and background --it's happening across a couple videos I have ..  very strange
[03:10] <tgm4883> theorem: are you sure the speech is missing from the audio track? Are you listening on stereo speakers?
[03:10] <theorem> yes, stereo speakers, good question though, I will try the speaker portion ...
[03:11] <tgm4883> theorem: just wondering if you're listening to 5.1 audio and not downsampling
[03:11] <theorem> tgm4883: you nailed it
[03:11] <theorem> tgm4883: that's exactly it, I have 2.1 speakers , and the audio was 5.1
[03:12] <tatertots> yep that's do it
[03:12] <theorem> it was only sending portions of the audio to the speakers as a result
[03:12] <tatertots> that'll
[03:12] <tgm4883> theorem: figured as much. It would be really odd for them to ship that audio on a separate track
[03:12] <theorem> tgm4883: yes, I was completely perplexed!!!
[03:12] <theorem> switched to 2.1 audio and it's fine
[03:12] <bumblefuzz> YankDownUnder as in, it works out of the box?
[03:13] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: Eh? Sorry? What's the question?
[03:13] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know if ubuntu 16LTS will run on the macbook pro 11,5  ?
[03:13] <bumblefuzz> I don't see a mactel team page on it
[03:13] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: AH...yeah...as long as you know how to get your Macbook to boot to the USB, well, Bob's your uncle.
[03:14] <bumblefuzz> so then, out of the box?
[03:14] <bumblefuzz> how's it do with the dual graphics cards?
[03:14] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:14] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: As with anything that has dual graphics, you're going to have to do some fiddly stuff...but that's "after the fact", hmm...
[03:16] <theorem> what do you think about Mr. Robot (TV Show?)
[03:22] <arooni> YankDownUnder: ok i'm still confused on how to set it up;  i have spent an hour working on it
[03:22] <arooni> YankDownUnder: so i dont need to build netatalk from scratch?  the supplied version in 16.04 is enough?
[03:23] <YankDownUnder> arooni: It's simple. "sudo apt-get install netatalk", easy done. If you want to "tweak" that, well, then you can go through the .conf files for netatalk - which is also easy enough...the hardest bits are literally just setting yourself up to automount, bro...strewth...easy as...(Keep It Simple STUPID) - very logical, hmm...
[03:24] <arooni> well whats easy for you isnt necessarily easy for others ... i have netatalk set up; i'm just confused on what to do next
[03:24] <arooni> places like https://cwill.us/netatalk-install-on-ubuntu-16-04/ are talking about needing to build your own version of netatalk
[03:25] <arooni> and these instructions dont even work; running into dependency problems " The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:25] <arooni>  libkrb5-dev : Depends: krb5-multidev (= 1.13.2+dfsg-5) but it is not going to be installed
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Look through the configuration files in /etc/netatalk => IF you really really really need to configure anything specific, it's in there...otherwise, all of "netatalk" is already preconfigured to just "work out of the box" mate.
[03:29] <arooni> ok i resolved the dependency; i'm going to finish this tonight even if its the death of me llol
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Back at that time, you had to compile - now you do NOT...therefore, don't bother.
[03:32] <YankDownUnder> arooni: When I setup a client - ya know how long it takes me to get a Mac connecting to a freshly built linux (Ubuntu) server? Less than four minutes time. Ubuntu has made it THAT easy, bro, truth. And if you're running "netatalk" on a linux box, well, nearly the same for getting connected to the Mac...(double check settings in SHARING in System Preferences - along with account settings - and a guest account - if you're going to
[03:32] <YankDownUnder> use a guest account)...easy as pie.
[03:33] <arooni> YankDownUnder: and youre just using the packaged version of netatalk?
[03:33] <pm_> gay
[03:34] <YankDownUnder> arooni: I wouldn't have it any other way...and I prefer to use EXACTLY what is in the distro - before even thinking about "third party" stuff...I have to - in order to have a solid base for my clients, hmm....can't have things getting all freaky on 'em - and wasting their time and money - and my time, eh? :)
[03:34] <arooni> fair enough
[03:34] <watermark> what is netatalk?
[03:35] <YankDownUnder> watermark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netatalk
[03:36] <watermark> ok I see!
[03:36] <arooni> woo hoo!  got it working
[03:36] <arooni> it really was 3 minutes to set up
[03:36] <arooni> so much conflicting info online is confusing
[03:37] <arooni> so this should be faster than samba i'm assuming since its how apple natively expects to be communicating
[03:38] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Si.
[03:38] <ajruiz> Hi everybody
[03:39] <arooni> YankDownUnder: so does this mean if i take my laptop to a internet cafe that other computers on the same network will see it as a computer they can to connect to?  anyway to stealth hide it?
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> arooni: It's a laptop, and it's running linux, right? If you go to the "internet cafe", ya know the best thing to do? Turn OFF your netatalk and SMB (Samba), and that's that. Easy enough to do.
[03:41] <arooni> yeah fair enough; i just hate having to remember to do stuff like that
[03:42] <YankDownUnder> arooni: When I venture out (sometimes, but not often) - let's say I go to Gloria Jean's - I turn off my sharing (on my Macbook Pro) so that I can happily suck down their free internet...as well, if I 'm going to do something "private", well, I use Tor, or I use a VPN...hmm...
[03:42] <YankDownUnder> arooni: If it's required, you remember it. Hmm? Like tying your shoes. Like putting on clean undies. Yeah? Yeah.
[03:42] <arooni> i should write a script that runs when i connect to unrecognized AP that shuts all these file sharing servers down
[03:44] <YankDownUnder> arooni: With linux - or with OSX - you can easily enough do that, eh? Coolbeans.
[03:46] <WhoAmi1> hello
[03:48] <arooni> in any case thank you YankDownUnder ;; i have noticed that with netatalk it doesnt seem as stable as samba share... it only works for awhile after restarting the avahi-daemon
[03:52] <YankDownUnder> arooni: There should be NO need to muck with "avahi" in the least...if you DID, you might want to correct it and put it back to it's default condition...there are no issues, there are no stability issues.
[03:57] <arooni> ok i'll undo the muck i started out with
[03:57] <LightPaper> Wow a chat room with 1839 person. So cool!
[03:58] <sarek> Filebot doesnt have an IRC channel, so was wondering if anyone here knew about setting up filebot to hardlink(not rename) files/folders ?
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> sarek: That is something to discuss with ops
[03:59] <sarek> Im not sure i understand what you mean
[03:59] <lordcirth> sarek, --action hardlink ?
[03:59] <lordcirth> First result
[04:00] <sarek> lordcirth: is there a way to scan a directory and based on what kind of media it is, hardlink to certain folders?
[04:00] <lordcirth> sarek, no idea.  Never used it before.
[04:01] <WhoAmi1> does anyone here is expert about DNS ?!
[04:01] <YankDownUnder> sarek: I mis-read what you were asking...sounds interesting - but also sounds "dangerous" to a degree.
[04:01] <Ben64> sarek: you could do that with a bash script
[04:01] <lordcirth> !ask | WhoAmi1
[04:02] <sarek> yes, but based on file name/type Ben64 . filebot searches its database for tv and movies and names things accordingly
[04:02] <WhoAmi1> i want to know how to make a public DNS servers like google
[04:02] <lordcirth> WhoAmi1, you run a DNS server that's open to the internet.  Whether someone chooses to use it or not is up to them.
[04:02] <WhoAmi1> i know to make it with bind and dnsmasq but works only in lan
[04:03] <WhoAmi1> yes
[04:03] <WhoAmi1> how to run them ?!
[04:04] <lordcirth> dnsmasq runs fine on any network, you just have to allow it to accept internet connections.  However, I don't see why you would want to.
[04:04] <LightPaper> The word of chat room is too small to read for me
[04:04] <lordcirth> LightPaper, so increase your IRC client's font size
[04:04] <Ben64> sarek: ok, you could still do that with a bash script
[04:05] <sarek> Im sure you can - unfortunately not much of a coder Ben64
[04:05] <sarek> Thank you though
[04:06] <katronix> hi all, trying to compile my own kernel, when I execute sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) I get: http://pastebin.com/e6wGfzhR is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel no longer correct docs?
[04:12] <chris_> I actully found a terminal based IRC client
[04:14] <chris_> still no gnome but at least I have lynx for a browse and this for IRC. Still can't figure out the problem
[04:14] <katronix> is there a better channel to ask about compiling the kernel?
[04:18] <OerHeks> katronix, #ubuntu-kernel perhaps ?
[04:19] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[04:19] <katronix> Thanks OerHeks :)
[04:20] <OerHeks> not sure why you cannot get linux-image-4.4.0-31, did you run updates first?
[04:21] <katronix> I did get the package itself, but I can't get the dependcies via apt-get
[04:22] <OerHeks> did you enable src in your sources?
[04:22] <katronix> that might be the issue
[04:25] <th3Dotor> hello!
[04:27] <wateringcan> hi all, need help w/ a sata disk
[04:27] <wateringcan> i have a drive that is spitting errors on boot, and the drive then gets disabled so i can no longer fdisk it
[04:27] <wateringcan> is there any way to boot ignoring errors, or to not have the drive probed so i can remove the partition table?
[04:28] <th3Dotor> hmm dont know if I understand exactly but boot-repair possibly?
[04:28] <OerHeks> dead disk, more a question for ##hardware
[04:29] <OerHeks> if it gets hardware disabled, what do you think software cand o?
[04:32] <wateringcan> OerHeks: it's not hardware disabled, the bios sees it
[04:32] <wateringcan> OerHeks: the kernel is disabling it
[04:33] <Ben64> wateringcan: where are you getting that information
[04:33] <WhoAmi1> could anyone make a nslookup scan for me i want to test a dns server outside lan
[04:33] <Ben64> WhoAmi1: doesn't sound on topic for this channel
[04:34] <WhoAmi1> it's just a scan
[04:34] <WhoAmi1> doesn't need a expert
[04:34] <Ben64> this is the ubuntu support channel, not "here do this thing for me" channel
[04:34] <Ben64> you could try #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[04:34] <wateringcan> Ben64: sda: detected capacity change from 1120239009792 to 0
[04:35] <wateringcan> Ben64: and then it seems to disappear from the OS
[04:35] <WhoAmi1> you here for help or what ?!
[04:35] <Ben64> wateringcan: sounds like a hardware issue, drive is probably busted
[04:35] <WhoAmi1> what are you doing here if you doesn't want to help someone with a something you can do ?!
[04:35] <OerHeks> WhoAmi1, try #networking or #linux
[04:35] <Ben64> WhoAmi1: you're in the wrong place buddy
[04:36] <WhoAmi1> no one answers in the rest of channels
[04:36] <WhoAmi1> just nslookup scan
[04:52] <etxzay> Hi! I was trying to upgrade Ubuntu desktop from 14.04 to 16.04, but got "Could not calculate the upgrade. An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade ".
[04:52] <etxzay> "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" gives me about 670 rows. I don't understand what package  is the source of my problems, it looks like dependency hell. I need some kind of methodology how can I resolve this. Turning off third-party ppas does not helps.
[04:52] <etxzay> Appreciate any help.
[04:53] <cfhowlett> etxzay, you're on 14.04.0?
[04:54] <bvzx> hello
[04:54] <bvzx> who know kafka or any java middle thing?
[05:08] <EriC^^> etxzay: try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:13] <Fr_Dae> EriC^^ -get aren't nessesary after 14.04
[05:13] <Fr_Dae> or debian 8
[05:14] <Fr_Dae> Apt only with color, progress bar and more
[05:14] <Fr_Dae> =)
[05:14] <Fr_Dae> etxzay can you past the return of "free -h" please ?
[05:17] <etxzay> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[05:17] <etxzay> EriC^^: I already was, it installs nothing =(
[05:17] <cimbakahn_> what is the difference between sudo apt-get remove --purge and sudo apt-get purge
[05:17] <EriC^^> etxzay: does it say anything?
[05:17] <EriC^^> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:17] <etxzay> free -h
[05:17] <etxzay>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:17] <etxzay> Mem:           15G       7,0G       8,6G       772M       690M       2,9G
[05:17] <etxzay> -/+ buffers/cache:       3,4G        12G
[05:17] <etxzay> Swap:          15G         0B        15G
[05:18] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: same thing
[05:18] <EriC^^> !paste | etxzay
[05:18] <cimbakahn_> Are you absolutely sure?
[05:19] <cimbakahn_> Why would they write them different then?
[05:20] <Fr_Dae> cimbakahn_ stop use apt-get use just apt
[05:20] <Fr_Dae> it's same command with color and progress bar
[05:20] <OerHeks> cimbakahn_, not important, test yourself with --dry-run
[05:20] <Fr_Dae> sudo apt purge && sudo apt autoremove
[05:20] <Dat> anyone know of any good cheap dedicated hosts
[05:20] <etxzay> EriC^^: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:20] <EriC^^> etxzay: it means apt is ok
[05:21] <Fr_Dae> etxzay and a clean/fresh install ?
[05:21] <OerHeks> Dat, wrong channel, ubuntu support only, but we can help setup your own host, really cheap
[05:21] <etxzay> Fr_Dae: it's not rly clean/fresh, cause I was using it a lot about 2 years
[05:21] <Fr_Dae> OerHeks what do you say ?
[05:22] <Fr_Dae> etxzay it's maybe time to do ?
[05:22] <EriC^^> etxzay: what exactly is the problem?
[05:22] <Fr_Dae> bakcup you files and format bro
[05:22] <EriC^^> Fr_Dae: no need
[05:22] <etxzay> EriC^^: can't upgrade to 16.04
[05:22] <Fr_Dae> he HDD don't take the upgrade
[05:23] <EriC^^> etxzay: paste the error you're getting
[05:24] <etxzay> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/znYaxDLT
[05:25] <DeadOne> Could someone help me figure out why my laptop keeps logging out when I close the lid, even with a display connected over HDMI?
[05:25] <Dat> OerHeks: my own host how?
[05:25] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu and ubuntu-fr recommand a clean and fresh install for upgrade just =)
[05:25] <cimbakahn_> They say that in synaptic COMPLETELY REMOVE is sudo apt-get remove --purge but all along i have been using sudo apt-get purge in the terminal.
[05:25] <Fr_Dae> so good night
[05:25] <DeadOne> I've modified gnome settings, and I've also messed with systemd-login
[05:26] <Fr_Dae> sudo apt purge only
[05:26] <Fr_Dae> or try bleachbit system cleaner
[05:26] <Fr_Dae> on your official repository
[05:27] <OerHeks> Dat, just run your own host on your own computer?
[05:27] <cimbakahn_> I have bleachbit.
[05:27] <Fr_Dae> cimbakahn_ sudo apt purge "x" && sudo apt autoremove && reboot
[05:27] <Fr_Dae> so good night :D
[05:27] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: purge and remove --purge is the same thing
[05:27] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: read "man apt-get"
[05:27] <cimbakahn_> Ok.
[05:27] <Backwards> Fr Dae Bleachbit is excellent. Good recommendation.
[05:27] <EriC^^> remove removes the packages, purge also removes the configs
[05:27] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: once it's gone from dpkg -l , it's gone
[05:28] <Backwards> Fr Dae in Windows Bleachbit finds things that CCleaner doesn't.
[05:28] <EriC^^> etxzay: do you have any ppa's installed?
[05:29] <cimbakahn_> It doesn't remove the configs in the home folder though.
[05:29] <Backwards> You can configure it to do so.
[05:29] <etxzay> EriC^^: yes, I do some, but I was turning them off, removing the ppas and even without ppas got the same error
[05:29] <Fr_Dae> cimbakahn_ if you want i have better like apt purge, sudo dpkg --force all --purge
[05:30] <DeadOne> So no one can point me in the right direction of why my system is logging out/turning off display connected over HDMI? even though I've edited systemd and gnome settings?
[05:30] <Fr_Dae> or the simply sudo rm-rf / -f
[05:30] <cimbakahn_> apt purge, sudo dpkg --force all --purge ?
[05:30] <OerHeks> ugh ... Fr_Dae stupid thing to type here
[05:31] <etxzay> EriC^^: even without third-party ppas got 700+ "Broken" records in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[05:31] <cimbakahn_> sudo rm-rf / -f
[05:31] <Fr_Dae> apt = please can you ? dpkg = DO THAT !
[05:31] <OerHeks> !danger
[05:31] <Backwards> That command is a wildcard.
[05:31] <DeadOne> cimbakahn_, I tried that.... now I don't have to close my screen to turn off my laptop and opening it won't turn it back on.... joking ofc.
[05:31] <cimbakahn_> Haven't heard of those commands.
[05:32] <Fr_Dae> it's fine, don't use it
[05:32] <Fr_Dae> it's really like TNT
[05:32] <Fr_Dae> Soooo Good night
[05:34] <DeadOne> :'(
[05:35] <Backwards> OerHeks you are funny     !danger  <--------------<
[05:35] <EriC^^> etxzay: upload the log
[05:35] <EriC^^> etxzay: also dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[05:35] <etxzay> EriC^^: https://www.dropbox.com/s/79i2mf320pvg3bl/apt.log?dl=0
[05:37] <OerHeks> DeadOne, what settings did you change ? /etc/systemd/logind.conf  - HandleLidSwitch=ignore ?
[05:37] <etxzay> EriC^^: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii http://pastebin.com/p6Qsyv1i
[05:38] <DeadOne> OerHeks, Yeah.
[05:38] <EriC^^> etxzay: nothing appears broken
[05:39] <Backwards> OerHeks do you know of a URL to put in the /etc/apt/sources.list   to   sudo apt-get install build-essential    ?
[05:39] <EriC^^> etxzay: try tail -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:39] <OerHeks> Backwards, there is no such thing
[05:39] <etxzay> EriC^^: The main problem for me to understand what is broken, and I also did not found any broken packges... but installer still won't go
[05:40] <DeadOne> OerHeks, http://sprunge.us/cQgh
[05:40] <EriC^^> etxzay: which ubuntu release is this? try cat /etc/issue
[05:41] <DeadOne> OerHeks, Also tried dconf-editor to modify gnome stuff.
[05:41] <DeadOne> Currently it doesn't hibernate but it hits the login screen, everything seems to still be running
[05:42] <stephane> bonjour
[05:42] <DeadOne> but having a display plugged in it turns off the display.. and reverts to login still once the lid is opened again
[05:42] <DeadOne> If I quickly close and re-open it takes a second then goes to login
[05:43] <etxzay> EriC^^: tail apt sources http://pastebin.com/LfbRqfMD
[05:43] <DeadOne> OerHeks, Worth noting "restart systemd-logind" prompts that it's an unknown service but I assume reboot would've reloaded settings yes or no?
[05:44] <etxzay> EriC^^: it's Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[05:44] <DeadOne> "restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind"
[05:44] <Trinity> i'm getting OSSEC Level 8 Notifs. Should I be worreid?
[05:44] <DeadOne> OSSEC is such crap.
[05:45] <EriC^^> etxzay: you have saucy ppa's debian jessie ppa's precise ppa's
[05:45] <EriC^^> (duh)
[05:45] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge | etxzay
[05:46] <Backwards> EricC^^ would you kindly message me. I have a question for you.
[05:46] <EriC^^> Backwards: ask here
[05:47] <seek> you guys should cj=heck out this video it is dope that pour multen aluminum into a pool and it sounds so cool when it hits the water i would put a link but i am not sure if i am aload to put links in here but the title is   Pouring molten aluminum into a pool!! its dope
[05:47] <cfhowlett> seek, completely off topic.  don't.
[05:47] <EriC^^> !ot | seek also check out molten salt, it explodes
[05:48] <Backwards> EriC I was wondering the syntax of the command you posted tail -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d./*
[05:48] <seek> sorry
[05:48] <EriC^^> Backwards: yes, it lists the last 10 lines of the files with the file name before it ( -v switch )
[05:48] <Backwards> Please tell me more?
[05:49] <EriC^^> what more to say?
[05:49] <Backwards> I see.
[05:49] <EriC^^> what are you curious about?
[05:49] <Backwards> I have this penchent for understanding commands.
[05:50] <Backwards> This one is new to me.
[05:50] <seek> and ight EriC^^ i will
[05:51] <tatertots> tail has a manual if you want to 'understand' even more Backwards
[05:51] <Backwards> Actually the word is penchant for understanding command.
[05:51] <EriC^^> Backwards: the "*" is a bash thing and it expands all the file names for the dir, and tail has a nifty -v that lists the file names which we needed
[05:52] <Backwards> Interesting.
[05:52] <Backwards> http://askubuntu.com/questions/319100/what-does-the-tail-command-do
[05:53] <Backwards> EriC I appreciate your bringing this to my attention.
[05:54] <Backwards> EriC I love doing homework and research.
[05:56] <Backwards> EriC can you direct the amount of lines of the files with that command?
[05:56] <Backwards> Probably a grep command?
[05:57] <EriC^^> Backwards: you mean parse the lines? or increase the number of files it gives?
[05:57] <Backwards> Thanks. Yes.
[05:57] <EriC^^> yes what?
[05:57] <EriC^^> like redirect the output to a file you mean?
[05:57] <Backwards> Parsing the lines.
[05:58] <EriC^^> yes you could pipe it to anything ( grep, sed, awk, cut, etc.. )
[05:58] <EriC^^> tail -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v ^#
[05:58] <EriC^^> if we wanted to get rid of all the commented out ppa's
[05:59] <paul__759> hi
[05:59] <Backwards> I suppose you could also comment all of the Personal Package List too.
[06:00] <paul__759> hello all
[06:00] <EriC^^> hi paul__759
[06:00] <EriC^^> Backwards: yes
[06:00] <Backwards> By the way nice to meet you EriC.
[06:00] <EriC^^> though ppa-purge is better for removing ppa's
[06:00] <EriC^^> you as well
[06:02] <Backwards> EriC what do you do for work?
[06:02] <Backwards> Just curious.
[06:03] <EriC^^> this is all offtopic here, /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:03] <Backwards> I suppose so.
[06:03] <paul__759> hi
[06:03] <GnomeLover> lol
[06:04] <Backwards> EriC I cannot join that channel. Must be registered.
[06:04] <GnomeLover> Backwards: even that is also offtopic :P
[06:07] <tase> Im having a hard time with permissions, I have 2 users, A and B, both in group C. I have a folder in /home/A/ called share, /home/A/share. share is owned by A, group C. I have set chmod g+s on /home/A/share. Now user B created the folder /home/A/share/data. User B can rwx in there, but user A can't even CD into it. Shouldn't it be accessible by A since A is in group C?
[06:09] <Backwards> Tase do you have root access?
[06:10] <tase> Yea I've got root
[06:11] <Backwards> OK you can sudo chown <me or directory>: <directory>
[06:11] <tatertots> tase..what are the permissions on /homeA/share/data when it was created by user B?
[06:11] <OerHeks> chgrp that folder /home/A/share/data to group c, it belongs now to b
[06:11] <OerHeks> tatertots +1
[06:11] <Backwards> It would look like chown <me>: <whatever>
[06:12] <tase> tatertots, when B created it, it was rwxrws---, owned by user B, group C
[06:12] <Backwards> Ignore the <  >
[06:13] <tase> Backwards, if I chown the directory as "chown A:", won't B be unable to cd into it?
[06:13] <Backwards> Tase that is up to you.
[06:13] <Backwards> It is a matter of trust.
[06:14] <Backwards> You can chown both A and B but there has to be a mutual trust.
[06:14] <tase> The objective here is to have /home/A/share a "shared" folder with rwx permissions for anyone in the group C
[06:15] <tase> chown both? thats possible?
[06:15] <Backwards> You can do that.
[06:16] <tase> i though ownership via chown was singular
[06:16] <Backwards> You can share ownership with the same group.
[06:17] <Backwards> Ultimately root has the last word.
[06:18] <tase> So can root say that both A and B have rwx on /home/A/share and every file and folder created inside of it in the future?
[06:18] <tase> thats what I though chmod g+s did
[06:18] <tase> but then A can't cd into a folder in there
[06:18] <Backwards> You can stop a group from having root access as well. It all depends upon trust.
[06:19] <tatertots> tase you want the group to have access to this share correct?
[06:19] <Backwards> There is always a bad apple in the barrel.
[06:20] <tase> yea rwx access, including folders created, like /home/A/share/data/assetfolder_288AA
[06:20] <tatertots> could you have put the share in a more neutral area to the users that you intend to have access to it
[06:20] <tatertots> just a thought
[06:21] <tase> yea i could, not sure where
[06:23] <Backwards> Tase, try Googling this: Howto restrict sharing directories with Ubuntu. or   Howto share directories and restrict access.
[06:23] <Seek> how can someone set there ubuntu to nomodeset without having it installed my friend is having some truble
[06:23] <EriC^^> tase: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Seek, you're going to have to walk him through the process or have him load the wiki on a secondary device
[06:24] <EriC^^> Seek: yeah, press "e" in grub, or f6 if you get a menu (legacy mode)
[06:24] <tase> EriC^^, I have a service that fetches files, I want these files to be accessible by me (user A). I told the service to put the files in my home, ~/shared
[06:24] <EriC^^> tase: the service runs as root?
[06:24] <tase> no as user B
[06:25] <EriC^^> it can't access your home dir then
[06:25] <tatertots> seek...when ubuntu hasn't been installed?...as in ubuntu and or grub hasn't ever been in existence on the system?
[06:25] <Seek> he dont have it installed tho
[06:25] <EriC^^> well by default i think ubuntu lets other users view the home dir contents
[06:25] <Seek> his windows got deleted
[06:25] <tase> not the home dir directly, a folder in there, that would be shared. I'm open to other locations, like /sharedfolder/ or /home/dmz
[06:26] <tase> just not sure how it would be different
[06:26] <EriC^^> tase: why don't you put it somewhere else and put a symlink in your home dir if you want
[06:26] <Seek> tatertots: yes
[06:26] <EriC^^> tase: put a group and give it +rwx access and add user B to the group
[06:26] <tase> EriC^^, yea me and the service are in the same group
[06:27] <tase> the problem is that when the service creates a folder, I can't CD into it
[06:27] <EriC^^> g+s should fix that
[06:27] <tase> chmod g+s ? yea thats one of the commands I did
[06:28] <Backwards> Tase why not just make the directory <public> and everyone has access to it. Unless the data is private or off limits.
[06:28] <EriC^^> maybe run chmod for the dir when you create it?
[06:28] <EriC^^> or mkdir -m <mode> ?
[06:29] <tatertots> seek okay so a computer that's never had ubuntu and or grub on it, that had been running windows OS, but the windows OS has become damaged or lost?
[06:29] <Seek> yes
[06:30] <tatertots> i'm not sure i understand how you're already at 'nomodset"
[06:30] <tase> EriC^^, so if I mkdir -m 770 (user:group:other ?) "shared", and user B creates a folder in there, will it also be 770?
[06:30] <tatertots> so windows is not in a usable state?
[06:30] <EriC^^> tase: no, i mean when the service creates the file let it change the mods from there
[06:30] <tatertots> and you wish to install ubuntu over it?
[06:31] <EriC^^> tase: another option would be to add your user to the group of user B with g+s
[06:31] <Seek> yeah but he keeps black scrren
[06:31] <tase> EriC^^, I'm with the same group as user B, how do I check if it's g+s?
[06:31] <EriC^^> ls -l /path/to/dir
[06:32] <EriC^^> should be rwxrws---
[06:32] <EriC^^> or so
[06:32] <Backwards> Also Tase you can have it set as <root> and then set the read and write permissions for all users for that one directory.
[06:33] <MRX> yo
[06:33] <EriC^^> tase: actually, ls -ld /path/to/dir
[06:33] <tase> Backwards, won't folders created in there still have the same problem though?
[06:33] <Backwards> Tase you need to set permissions on the files.
[06:34] <Backwards> The problem that I see is that are these files or whatever sensitive data?
[06:34] <EriC^^> tase: what's the group of the main shared dir that's set to g+s ?
[06:35] <EriC^^> tase: really g+s isn't needed, if user A is part of user B's group, and it has g=rwx then he can access everything fine
[06:36] <EriC^^> or use g+s and set the group to user A's group
[06:36] <Seek> nvm he good
[06:37] <tatertots> tase why does user B or user C have to go snooping into user A's home directory to get to this "shared" area that ideally would be neutral to the group?
[06:37] <tatertots> not that you can't configure it that way if you wanted to but why make it harder than it needs to be if it doesn't need to be that way
[06:38] <Backwards> Tatertots good question.
[06:38] <tase> well i did mention that im open to other neutral locations but i never got a suggestion
[06:38] <tase> is there a place in ubuntu by default that is shared?
[06:38] <tatertots> have some respect for user A's home directory for pete's sake lol
[06:38] <EriC^^> make your own
[06:39] <EriC^^> you could use /var if you wanted or just make a /shared
[06:39] <EriC^^> or /var/shared
[06:39] <tase> so if
[06:39] <tase> ops
[06:40] <tase> so if I mkdir -m 770 /shared and chown root:group, then chmod g+s in there, will A and B have free access?
[06:40] <EriC^^> which group will you be using?
[06:40] <Backwards> If you want to share something with ubuntu just create a directory on your website and let that person download a file or anything.
[06:41] <tase> EriC^^, well a group that contains users A and B ?
[06:41] <tase> like group "AunionB"
[06:41] <EriC^^> yeah that would work
[06:42] <tase> um
[06:42] <Backwards> Put your server on localhost and let the person A or B to download whatever on 127.0,0.1
[06:43] <tase> sudo mkdir -m 770 /shared, cd /shared = permission denifed
[06:43] <EriC^^> tase: did you chown the group?
[06:43] <EriC^^> also if you just created the group you have to logout and back in
[06:44] <tatertots> tase if you plan to have a 'share' that's accessible by the group design/configure your permissions and share accordingly
[06:44] <Backwards> Tase permission denied try:  sudo -i
[06:44] <tase> Oh yea I did sudo chown root:mygroup /shared
[06:44] <EriC^^> tase: did you logout and back in since adding the users to "mygroup" ?
[06:44] <tase> tatertots, yea thats what im trying
[06:44] <tase> EriC^^, Ill do that just in case
[06:45] <tase> ok it was that
[06:45] <Backwards> Once you work in root type in the terminal  <exit> it brings you back to your shell account.
[06:45] <tase> /facepalm
[06:50] <TheVegaPunk> hello
[06:50] <Backwards> Tase working with sudo is most important with Ubuntu. Sudo was designed to limit the power of a person using <root access>
[06:51] <Backwards> When you see permission denied it means that the command either is volatile or restricted to only root.
[06:51] <TheVegaPunk> yeah sudo gives access to root files which after changed it can be affected to whole system
[06:51] <lapideviridi> Is there any way for me to encrypt a SD card and have that automatically decrypt when I login?
[06:52] <tase> i can understan sudo apt-get or sudo rm -rf /
[06:52] <tase> but i rather setup my folder permissions than do sudo cd
[06:52] <lapideviridi> I have my ubuntu encrypted with LUKS, wich works pretty nice. I'd like to try the same for a SD card which I have permanently put into the card reader.
[06:52] <Backwards> Tase all permissions are sudo.
[06:53] <TheVegaPunk> lapideviridi: i think you can format your sd card with gparted in encrpyted drive
[06:55] <Backwards> Sudo is a basic function of Ubuntu to have <root access> without being root.
[06:57] <Backwards> Tase, why not just make your directory password protected and anyone can access it by typing in the password. That should fix your problem.
[06:58] <tase> are you talking about http stuff or command line stuff
[06:58] <tase> cuz this isn't www/html
[06:59] <Backwards> I could be anything from .htaccess to password protection of a file or directory.
[07:00] <prat00888> Can ubuntu easily boot from a btrfs snapshot like openSUSE?  For example, if I snapshot root before an update, the update blows up, then I reboot and boot to the pre-update snapshot.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !btrfs | prat00888
[07:01] <Backwards> You could set up on your web server http://<mywebserver>.<whatever>/<directory> and that would work. No one knows it but your associates.
[07:01] <ducasse> prat00888: you should be able to just specify the subvol on the kernel command line
[07:01] <Blue1> I have had no issues with ext4.
[07:02] <prat00888> Ok.  That's interesting since opensusue switched to btrfs as the default fs 2 years ago.
[07:02] <Blue1> but yeah I've dabbled with reiserfs at one time --
[07:02] <prat00888> It seems to be working out-of-the-box on openSUSE, so I'll probably try that out first.
[07:04] <seek> lol my friend put a file on my desktop and i cant delete it or remove it is it pasibe to delete it at all
[07:04] <mcphail> prat00888: there was a package which created btrfs snapshots with every invokation of apt-get, but I don't think it was maintained. You'd have to snapshot manually
[07:04] <Backwards> Tase I hope you are taking notes.
[07:05] <prat00888> making btrfs snapshots is the easy part.  The more difficult part for me would be integration with the boot loader since I understand that less.
[07:05] <tase> Backwards, you're going on a tangeant with using apache to host files and all that. I think I have my problem solved, I won't be needed further help
[07:06] <mcphail> prat00888: that is fairly easy, but, again, would be a manual intervention rather than automagic
[07:06] <Backwards> Tase another way to transfer files is to DCC Send over the IRC. I do it all of the time.
[07:07] <tase> Oh great idea actually, can I test it with you on a few files? Just tell me if you can run them to make sure they're intact
[07:07] <mcphail> prat00888: the Ubuntu community has not embraced btrfs the way SuSE has
[07:07] <prat00888> Supporting that out-of-the-box would be huge I think.  It works fantastic on Solaris and FreeBSD with ZFS.  It makes OS updates so much less stressful knowing you can just roll back by rebooting
[07:07] <prat00888> I see.
[07:07] <Backwards> Tase I have no idea what files you are referring to.
[07:08] <Backwards> Tase msg me and I will talk about it.
[07:10] <Backwards> Tase you can send tons of data over an IRC server. I run 3 IRCD servers.
[07:11] <Backwards> It is UDP protocol.
[07:14] <Backwards> UDP is User Datagram Protocol which is an RFC 768 Connectionless Transmission Mode.
[07:15] <Backwards> It sends IRC data packets in a DCC send protocol.
[07:17] <Backwards> RFC means Request For Comments and it is what the whole Internet is based upon.
[07:17] <astrill> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:17] <seek> hey
[07:17] <astrill> Seek ,3
[07:17] <astrill> <3
[07:17] <ouroumov> Hello. Someone know why in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, "managed" is set to "false" by default in [ifupdown] section? Setting it to true seems to have fixed a wifi problem on two machines I've tried it on. (16.04.1)
[07:17] <seek> ight so your black screen fixed
[07:17] <astrill> i think it did
[07:17] <seek> ight
[07:18] <astrill> it has not Black Screened Yet
[07:20] <linuxsocist> hello
[07:21] <linuxsocist> just testing a bash script.
[07:21] <Backwards> Greets to Linuxsocist. Welcome to the channel.
[07:22] <OerHeks> !test
[07:22] <ducasse> ouroumov: when 'managed' is set to true, it will manage interfaces that have been configured by /etc/network/interfaces
[07:22] <Backwards> !test
[07:23] <ouroumov> ducasse, so the change should have no impact whatsoever, and this is just some weird coincidence?
[07:23] <Backwards> OerHeks is that your bot?
[07:23] <ouroumov> (Only loopback is defined)
[07:24] <OerHeks> Backwards, no, it is the official ubuntu bot
[07:24] <Backwards> I see.
[07:24] <OerHeks> it should say, join ##test or something, it is changed
[07:25] <Backwards> When I saw you do !test  I knew ubottu would do the same thing.
[07:26] <ducasse> ouroumov: if those interfaces were previously handled by /e/n/i, it could definitely have an impact.
[07:27] <ouroumov> ducasse, sorry my google search does not turn up anything for "/e/n/i"
[07:27] <ducasse> ouroumov: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:28] <ducasse> ouroumov: if only lo is defined, i don't see why it would matter
[07:28] <Backwards> OerHeks have you worked with build-essential?
[07:29] <ouroumov> ducasse, okay, thanks.
[07:29] <tatertots> ouroumov are you having network problem?
[07:29] <ouroumov> tatertots, I was having wifi problems. It appears to have gone away but I can't figure out why.
[07:30] <ouroumov> (Wasn't an update)
[07:30] <Backwards> Ouroumov if you solved the problem then there is no problem.
[07:31] <ouroumov> I haven't solved it, it disappeared.
[07:31] <orlock> If you ate a rubiks cube
[07:31] <orlock> then that would explain it
[07:31] <orlock> and solved or not.. you still have a problem
[07:32] <Backwards> I eat Rubicks cubes every morning for breakfasts. I love the plastic and the labels and colors.
[07:36] <prat00888> Backwards, be careful you don't choke on the small parts.
[07:36] <prat00888> Backwards, are the red ones cherry or strawberry flavor?
[07:36] <Backwards> My digestive track solved the problem.
[07:37] <Backwards> The worst part about it is passing it through the alimentary cannal.
[07:38] <Backwards> Someone call a doctor.
[07:39] <Backwards> Oh! I am a Doctor.
[07:39] <OerHeks> please guy, keep ontopic
[07:39] <OerHeks> *guys
[07:41] <Backwards> OerHeks have you seen the Ubuntu Linux Bible?
[07:41] <Backwards> https://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Bible-Featuring-10-04/dp/0470604506
[07:41] <OerHeks> bad naming, and old version .. 10.04?
[07:42] <Backwards> It still has good information in it.
[07:42] <OerHeks> With the current transition to systemD, not that much
[07:43] <Backwards> I have about 5,000 books in my library. Every book has at least one good thing to say.
[07:44] <Backwards> An Engineer that I worked with told me: "If you cannot learn something from someone else, it is time to move on."
[07:45] <Backwards> Always ask questions and always try to give an answer.
[07:47] <Backwards> One of my favorite websites is Ask Ubuntu.
[07:48] <Backwards> Also Ubuntu Forums.
[07:48] <Backwards> You can learn more there than being on this channel.
[07:49] <Backwards> However being on the #Ubuntu irc channel is good to meet people who have done their homework.
[07:51] <Abe_> you can get here good help actually. sometimes it's faster if you can't find a good answer
[07:52] <Backwards> Abe good comment.
[07:52] <Backwards> Abe nice to meet you.
[07:52] <Abe_> Hey :D
[07:52] <Backwards> Abe are you an Ubuntu web admin?
[07:53] <Abe_> no not really xD
[07:53] <Backwards> Ok.
[07:53] <Backwards> :)
[07:53] <Backwards> I have about 10 servers running in my establishment.
[07:54] <Abe_> are you doing internet business?
[07:54] <Backwards> Yes.
[07:54] <Abe_> ok thats cool
[07:54] <Backwards> I have my own IRC server.
[07:54] <cfhowlett> Abe_, please stay on the channel topic: ubuntu.  chitchat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:55] <Backwards> I run Ubuntu and Debian servers also on VBOX i.e., virtual box.
[07:56] <mad> Hello! I have an issue with "Videos" on 16.04. Seems like bottom navpanel ( prev/play/next volume and etc) do not react on mouse clicking. Please, help
[07:56] <Abe_> cfhowlett: yeah i know
[07:56] <Backwards> Abe can I message you?
[07:57] <Abe_> Backwards: if you want in offtopic then
[07:57] <Backwards> I cannot get into offtopic.
[07:58] <Abe_> why?
[07:58] <Backwards> Because I am not registered on freenode.
[07:58] <Backwards> Unless you invite me there.
[07:59] <Abe_> ok then just pm
[08:10] <adamicron> hello
[08:11] <adamicron> can I disable a specific "desktop notification" in Ubuntu 16 desktop default GUI (that I figure is GNOME3)?
[08:12] <adamicron> namely I'd like to disable " Unable to mount Android MTP device " since I'm doing testing on a connected android device and I get like a hundred dialog saying that every time
[08:12] <adamicron> so I'd like to disable "notifications" (I understand that' s not a proper notification hence why I quoted that) but I don't know well how the automounting works
[08:17] <yossarianuk> adamicron: good question - no idea personally in Untity... in kde its -> system-settings -> notifications . However KDE is famous for allowing a high level of configuration (gnome based systems not so much)
[08:18] <adamicron> but these are plain dialog windows, not notifications in the modern meaning of the term
[08:18] <adamicron> i.e. some process is prompting that and blocking on it
[08:18] <adamicron> unlike "system notifications"
[08:19] <adamicron> I'd be good by disabling MTP automount but I need to be able to do it via cli since I have to disable and then reenable it afterwards
[08:21] <killall> how do i force via commandline my ubuntu to use the hdmi output and not the analog audio output?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> !hdmi | killall
[08:22] <OerHeks> open terminal:  alsamixer > f6 > select sound device
[08:24] <OerHeks> adamicron, no idea howto block notifications, unity-tweak got nothing on that
[08:24] <killall> OerHeks, hdmi is not there
[08:25] <OerHeks> then i have no clue: maybe you have no hdmi sound
[08:25] <adamicron> I shouldn't have used "notification", that will stick now
[08:25] <adamicron> this is the alert I get (not my screenshot) http://i.stack.imgur.com/mdBGO.png
[08:26] <killall> OerHeks, i do have hdmi sound :) it is playing right now....
[08:26] <adamicron> you see that's not a proper notification
[08:28] <OerHeks> adamicron, that is an error, not a notify-message
[08:30] <OerHeks> automount can be disabled with gconf editor: org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[08:32] <adamicron> OerHeks: via CLI_
[08:32] <adamicron> ?
[08:33] <OerHeks> adamicron, why ? i see you have a pretty desktop
[08:33] <adamicron> I'm running test, in batch
[08:33] <adamicron> tests*
[08:34] <adamicron> I want to disable automount when I start but leave the config as it was so when someone connects a drive he won't go mad
[08:34] <OerHeks> when i bring a solution, people always want the 'cli' version ...
[08:35] <adamicron> " gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount-open false"
[08:35] <adamicron> OerHeks: CLI is good
[08:35] <adamicron> thanks for the hint
[08:40] <Dingel> hey guys need help on upgrade issue from 15.04 to 15.10 anyone can help ?
[08:40] <EriC^^> Dingel: why don't you fresh install 16.04?
[08:41] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | Dingel
[08:41] <Dingel> i need the data
[08:41] <EriC^^> (15.10 is also eol)
[08:41] <Dingel> i know
[08:41] <EriC^^> Dingel: backup, then copy back and install the programs agian
[08:41] <EriC^^> *again
[08:41] <Dingel> I need your advice on this case. Customer has the following distro : Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 15.04 Release:        15.04 Codename:       vivid He is trying to upgrade to the 15.10 and finally to 16.04.  Did all the steps : http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/10/upgrade-ubuntu-15-04-to-ubuntu-15-10/
[08:41] <k1l_> you are very late for that upgrade. even 15.10 is eol already.
[08:42] <k1l_> Dingel: that is a really bad howto
[08:42] <Dingel> sudo do-release-upgrade -d^
[08:42] <Dingel> it says alaready up to date
[08:42] <k1l_> that command is bad
[08:42] <Dingel> what do you suggest ?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Dingel, clean install
[08:42] <barq> I keep getting the message No space left on device because my /home is full, but I have loads of space left on my device. How can I increase the /home?
[08:42] <Dingel> here is the log here : https://favad.blob.core.windows.net/test/screenlog.zip
[08:42] <k1l_> the "-d" is for devel release. which all the noob out there write into their howtos but quite after some time that doesnt work anymore
[08:43] <cfhowlett> barq, you need to clean our your kernels
[08:43] <EriC^^> barq: pastebin df -h && df -i
[08:43] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | Dingel read this howto
[08:43] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to change the sources.list since you are way to late
[08:43] <Dingel> how do i do it ?
[08:43] <adamicron> bye
[08:43] <k1l_> Dingel: see the bots message and link
[08:44] <k1l_> barq: can you show a "df -h" and a "df -i" on paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:45] <Dingel> k1l how to do it ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Dingel, you have to READ the links we send you
[08:45] <k1l_> Dingel: read the link from the bot. it explains exactly what to do. i will not copy and paste every senstence in here.
[08:45] <barq> https://ghostbin.com/paste/dajkm
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | k1l_
[08:46] <Dingel> ok thanks ill try do it now
[08:47] <barq> k1l_, EriC^^ : ^
[08:47] <EriC^^> barq: /home is full
[08:47] <barq> yes I know
[08:48] <EriC^^> delete stuff from it..
[08:48] <EriC^^> it's your personal files
[08:48] <barq> can I not increase it
[08:48] <barq> I have tons of space on my drive
[08:48] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[08:49] <barq> EriC^^: https://ghostbin.com/paste/xmjrf
[08:49] <Dingel> how do i add items to the source list ?
[08:50] <barq> Or how can I find out what is clogging up the sapce
[08:50] <barq> space
[08:50] <k1l_> Dingel: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <k1l_> barq: run "baobab" which will show you what is using all the space on the disk where /home is
[08:50] <EriC^^> barq: sudo apt-get install ncdu && ncdu /home
[08:51] <Dingel> ok ,so to add these lines correct
[08:51] <k1l_> and you could have said, that this is a VM in vbox
[08:51] <EriC^^> nice 1 k1l_
[08:51] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to change the lines in there. like its explained in the wiki page
[08:52] <Dingel> ok
[08:55] <yann> join #grass
[08:56] <barq> Thanks. My trash was also full.
[08:56] <Dingel> k1l i get : An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [08:57] <k1l_> Dingel: what are you doing exactly?
[08:57] <Dingel> after i added the lines i run :
[08:57] <Dingel> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:57] <k1l_> Dingel: did you change the sources.list to old-releases and vivid?
[08:57] <Dingel> yes
[08:57] <kvmmm> can I hook 2 ubuntu laptops together and toggle between with a KVM switch?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> k1l_, you might find it an order of magnitude easier to just clean install.
[08:58] <k1l_> Dingel: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:58] <cfhowlett> kvmmm, hook meaning network?
[08:58] <kvmmm> maybe... so for example, I have a windows computer and linux computer
[08:58] <Dingel> ki1_: what do you mean ?
[08:59] <kvmmm> I want to sometimes have the ubuntu laptop show ubuntu and the windows show windows, but flick a switch and then both show only windows
[08:59] <afidegnum> hello, while on ubuntu 14.04 i have broken packages error, how do I fix it ? https://bpaste.net/show/e59dc566246f
[08:59] <Ben64> kvmmm: do you know what a kvm switch does
[09:00] <k1l_> Dingel: please run that command. it will output a url, please show that url here
[09:00] <Dingel> ok
[09:00] <kvmmm> Ben64... not really
[09:01] <k1l_> afidegnum: "sudo apt update && apt-cache policy postgis | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here please
[09:01] <Ben64> kvmmm: you plug two computers into a kvm switch, and one keyboard, monitor, and mouse on the other side. you can switch between the two computers usually with a special key sequence
[09:02] <Dingel> ki1_: its taking a lot of time
[09:03] <Dingel> ki1_: how much does it takes?
[09:03] <k1l_> Dingel: only seconds
[09:03] <k1l_> Dingel: press ctrl+c to abort
[09:03] <Dingel> ki1_: done
[09:03] <k1l_> Dingel: run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[09:04] <Dingel> got it
[09:04] <kvmmm> hmmmm, so then could I put a stick PC into the HDMI of my laptop, see a mini Ubuntu using the stick PC, and then use a KVM switch the change whether the laptop OS, or the stick OS would be controlled by the laptop keyboard?
[09:04] <impak> hi all
[09:04] <impak> i need help
[09:05] <Ben64> kvmmm: no not at all
[09:05] <impak> where is file version.h?
[09:05] <Dingel> ki1_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22154715/
[09:06] <Dingel> ki1_: can you open it ?
[09:06] <k1l_> Dingel: that is wrong
[09:06] <cfhowlett> WAY wrong
[09:06] <Dingel> ki1_: sorry can you fix this ?
[09:06] <k1l_> Dingel: the help page the bot linked got clear instructions. why dont you just follow them?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> k1l_, you are aware that you could have actually clean installed ubuntu 16.04 by now?  and not had to muck about in the sources list at all?
[09:08] <Dingel> ki1_: i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:08] <EriC^^> impak: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[09:08] <quackgyver> My Ubuntu Software Center just gets stuck loading whenever I search
[09:09] <quackgyver> I've tried all the basic troubleshooting stuff, rebooting etc
[09:09] <quackgyver> What do I do?
[09:09] <quackgyver> (a reformat or reinstall is not an acceptable solution)
[09:09] <k1l_> Dingel: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[09:09] <OerHeks> Dingel, cloud ?? i think you need to contact your vendor for an updated image
[09:09] <Dingel> ki1_: Description:    Ubuntu 15.04
[09:10] <kvmmm> so, if I run two laptops, what's the easiest way to share screens?
[09:10] <Dingel> which one canonical ?
[09:10] <k1l_> Dingel: and no. you didnt follow that howto. you just looked for commands to copy and paste and did not even read what is written the line above it.
[09:10] <kvmmm> one's Ubuntu and one's Windows
[09:10] <Dingel> ki1_: ok reading it again
[09:10] <k1l_> Dingel: and is that a vps, cloud storage or webserver?
[09:11] <impak> i'm install linux-generic
[09:11] <impak> and i dont see this file
[09:11] <Dingel> ki1_: what code name should i replace vivid ?
[09:12] <EriC^^> impak: type dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[09:12] <k1l_> Dingel: you dont replace vivid
[09:12] <EriC^^> and uname -r
[09:12] <k1l_> Dingel: you replace "CODENAME" with vivid. since you are using vivid right now.
[09:12] <Dingel> ki1_: ok doing it and trying again
[09:12] <k1l_> Dingel: and again: is this a cloud image/server? because then that all will cause a mess
[09:13] <quackgyver> Anyone?
[09:13] <Dingel> ki1_: cloud
[09:13] <Dingel> ki1_: azure
[09:13] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, kill the software center.  do a manual update
[09:13] <k1l_> Dingel: then talk to the hoster how to proplery upgrade that machine
[09:13] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, sudo apt update
[09:13] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: how do i kill it
[09:13] <k1l_> *properly
[09:13] <Dingel> ki1_: hoster told me reinstall
[09:14] <quackgyver> I mean I don't see how this problem can even occur since it's a one day fresh installation
[09:14] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, open a terminal and : ps -x        find the PID and kill -9 [pid]
[09:14] <Dingel> ki1_: i have several machines the same issue solved after doing do upgrade
[09:14] <quackgyver> alright. how do i find the pid
[09:14] <cfhowlett> read the above
[09:14] <quackgyver> oh i thought that was the command for killing it
[09:14] <quackgyver> how do i kill it?
[09:15] <Fudge> quackgyver:  ps aux | grep software
[09:15] <quackgyver> I can't really make anything out
[09:15] <quackgyver> Too much clutter
[09:15] <Fudge> look for the results, one will be the grep command you just issued, the other has the pid, usually a 5 didgit number, they change so don't wait too long to sudo kill -9 pid-number
[09:15] <quackgyver> In the PID list I mean.
[09:16] <quackgyver> Man this is hilarious. I reinstall Ubuntu cus apt-get's state somehow managed to break, and now like, 1-2 days in software center is broken.
[09:16] <quackgyver> Why can't Linux just work. O_O
[09:16] <EriC^^> where's the fun in that
[09:16] <k1l_> quackgyver: that are very unusual issues
[09:17] <k1l_> quackgyver: did you add any PPAs or 3rd party repos?
[09:17] <quackgyver> Nope.
[09:17] <quackgyver> I do everything as vanilla as humanly possible.
[09:17] <Trinity> does anyone know if ufw is persistent over reboots?
[09:18] <k1l_> Dingel: erase everything in the sources.list and only place the lines there mentioned in the howto.
[09:19] <_ramok> hi
[09:19] <OerHeks> really quackgyver, with dosbox?
[09:19] <_ramok> is there an tool that can check RAM  when the OS is already loaded. as far as i understood memtest+ needs to run after grub loaded
[09:20] <cfhowlett> _ramok, "check" ram?
[09:20] <OerHeks> _ramok, you don't test ram with a full system running
[09:20] <k1l_> _ramok: no. since the ram is in use then. run memtest on the grub listing
[09:20] <Triffid_Hunter> _ramok: well after your system is booted, a fair chunk of the ram is in use.. how do you plan to test it without corrupting system state?
[09:20] <quackgyver> OerHeks: What do you mean?
[09:20] <quackgyver> Ok now Software Center is suddenly working
[09:21] <_ramok> okay, it seems like in a running state it doesn't make sense :)
[09:21] <Triffid_Hunter> _ramok: it's like trying to work on your car engine while driving... not gonna work, and likely to break lots of stuff
[09:21] <quackgyver> but now the system keeps telling me that I have a system problem
[09:21] <Dingel> ki1_: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Building data structures... Done  Calculating the changes  Calculating the changes  The software on this computer is up to date.  There are no upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now be canceled.
[09:21] <quackgyver> asking if i want to report it o_o
[09:21] <_ramok> thanks guys
[09:21] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, sounds like an PEBKAS error
[09:21] <k1l_> Dingel: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and show that again on the paste.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[09:23] <Dingel> ki1_: it changed to wily :
[09:23] <Dingel> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily main restricted universe multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:23] <afidegnum> k1l_: here is the results https://bpaste.net/show/ad2e2bc40b6d
[09:23] <k1l_> Dingel: that is all wrong
[09:24] <Dingel> ki1_: i didnt change it yet
[09:24] <k1l_> Dingel: then dont run the upgrade......
[09:24] <Dingel> ki1_: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/22156349/
[09:25] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to change the sources.list, as explained in the howto. then you run the upgrade. i dont know how to make that any easier.
[09:25] <k1l_> Dingel: if you still dont understand maybe you should ask someone locally for help. or you just reinstall a 16.04 ubuntu and start with that
[09:26] <Dingel> ki1_: the article is not clear
[09:26] <drox> i have a problem Argyll and Argyllcms are yourself program?
[09:26] <Dingel> ki1_: do i need to replace all entries with code name vivid ?
[09:26] <k1l_> afidegnum: your ubuntugis-unstable PPA is making that mess. remove that ppa with ppa-purge and you shoule be able to install it.
[09:27] <afidegnum> k1l_: how do I remove it ? from the apt/sources.list ?
[09:27] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to replace everything in that file. just delete everything. then you place the lines shown in the howto in that file. then you change CODENAME to vivid. since vivid is what you use at the moment
[09:27] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | afidegnum
[09:29] <Dingel> ki1_: ok doing it
[09:29] <Pipapop> Hello!
[09:31] <Pipapop> I have a black screen problem after an upgrade from 14.04.3 to 16.04.1 (Xubuntu version). On the xubuntu channel, someone suggests to add nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. I did it but problem is still here
[09:32] <Pipapop> almost "worse", before that, I could see very quiclky the blue screen of xubuntu, and now, black (more darkgrey than black...) screen directly
[09:32] <lerner> sudo chown -R dexter:dexter /home/pictures will change owner and group to dexter, correct?
[09:33] <phiona> how do we verify the hashes of downloaded lubuntu isos? i cant find it on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[09:33] <Wuthering_Height> @ara yeal
[09:33] <Pipapop> (hardware info: laptop Lenovo x230, integrated Intel Chipset)
[09:33] <k1l_> !md5sum | phiona
[09:34] <Dingel> ki1_: like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/22157158/
[09:35] <k1l_> Dingel: yes
[09:37] <phiona> k1l_: done that. now wheres the list to  check it against?
[09:38] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:38] <Seek> how can i remove a file that cant be removed my friend fucked with me and put a text doc i cant remove
[09:38] <OerHeks> (from the same page)
[09:38] <k1l_> phiona: on the cdimage server. like explained on the sites i linked
[09:38] <Dingel> ki1_: look at the results http://paste.ubuntu.com/22157557/
[09:38] <OerHeks> Seek, you have been warnedfor days, not to use such language ...
[09:39] <Dingel> it cant find Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-security/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[09:39] <Seek> oh
[09:39] <Seek> my bad
[09:39] <Pipapop> phiona: scroll down your link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/ you'll find the md5 file
[09:40] <Pipapop> phiona: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/MD5SUMS
[09:40] <seek> sorry
[09:41] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: how can it be a PEBKAS error when I've literally just installed Ubuntu
[09:41] <Dingel> ki1_: there is no vivid : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:41] <quackgyver> What could I possibly mess up during what is essentially an extremely simple installation wizard
[09:41] <quackgyver> Do you somehow thing that I banged the computer against the wall or what
[09:41] <quackgyver> think*
[09:42] <mcphail> quackgyver: what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:43] <phiona> k1l_ Pipapop yes. found it. thanks
[09:44] <gooferpal>  'Windows is just another pane in the glass.'
[09:44] <sarek> How do i uppercase a directory? mv /media/storage/media/movies /media/storage/media/Movies mv: cannot move '/media/storage/media/movies' to a subdirectory of itself, '/media/storage/media/Movies/movies'
[09:44] <k1l_> Dingel: ok, then erase everything and put this back in there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22158087/
[09:44] <quackgyver> mcphail: The latest LTS one
[09:45] <quackgyver> 16.04 or whatever it is
[09:45] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  in a terminal, type    cat /etc/issue
[09:45] <seek> how can i remove a file becuase my friend put it on my desktop and he was just messing with me does and anyone know how to take it off
[09:45] <quackgyver> It's telling me that it's having problems with /usr/lib/colord/colord-sane
[09:46] <gooferpal>  'I once heard Bill Gates say, "WHAT?!?!  Netscape caused an invalid page
[09:46] <gooferpal> fault!?!  Only Microsoft programs have the code to do that!"'
[09:46] <quackgyver> And it says that it's a duplicate of http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1351286 when I'm about to submit the error report
[09:47] <quackgyver> I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't care about this issue. I was just trying to get Software Center to work
[09:47] <quackgyver> I'm just saying, it's frustrating and weird how Ubuntu repeatedly has issues.
[09:47] <quackgyver> If it ain't one thing it's another.
[09:47] <sarek> How do i uppercase a directory? mv /media/storage/media/movies /media/storage/media/Movies mv: cannot move '/media/storage/media/movies' to a subdirectory of itself, '/media/storage/media/Movies/movies' any ideas?
[09:47] <quackgyver> I appreciate all the help tho for sure. :)
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  thank gog Windows never has issues
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> god*
[09:48] <quackgyver> Not like this mate.
[09:48] <ducasse> sarek: what kond of filesystem is that?
[09:48] <Wuthering_Height> mv -r /media/storage/media/movies
[09:48] <ducasse> sarek: *kind
[09:48] <sarek> hfs ducasse
[09:49] <ducasse> sarek: i'm guessing you have mounted it case-insensitive
[09:49] <quackgyver> Weird. I have one app that is stuck "waiting to install" in the sidebar, and yet it's already installed
[09:49] <ducasse> sarek: or the fs itself is
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  first time you're using ubuntu?
[09:49] <sarek> the file system itself is hfs
[09:49] <quackgyver> MonkeyDust: No like 8th attempt. I always quit it cus I end up having some weird issue.
[09:49] <quackgyver> Whether it's the computer getting bricked or the wifi interface destroying itself.
[09:50] <ducasse> sarek: to work around - 'mv movies blah; mv blah Movies'
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  don't quit, try to find out what causes it, like we all did
[09:50] <mcphail> sarek: you're running into problems with a case-insensitive filesystem but a case sensitive operating system
[09:50] <quackgyver> MonkeyDust: Every time I do that it ends up eating up up to two weeks for me
[09:50] <sarek> yeah figured id do that ducasse
[09:50] <sarek> Thanks
[09:50] <quackgyver> And I go down a rabbit hole of following tutorials that halfway through turn out to have been outdated
[09:51] <quackgyver> and nobody on IRC can help me follow through
[09:51] <quackgyver> so I end up with a broken system :P
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  yes, you shouldnt follow random tutorials
[09:51] <quackgyver> Usually it's the top-ranked results on how to fix my specific issue, which usually are on ubuntu.com
[09:52] <quackgyver> Don't get me wrong. I'm not expecting a free OS project to be accountable for these things.
[09:52] <quackgyver> I'm just saying that it's def an issue
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  i saved this quote, here on #ubuntu ... "you won't get a system that behaves the same way as a windows system.. linux has its own advantages and disadvantages.. you just learn to live with a different set of annoying things =)"
[09:56] <quackgyver> MonkeyDust: sure thats fine
[09:56] <skweek> hi, I wasn't getting a webcam selection from cheese when I opened it and I was wondering if anyone had any advice
[09:56] <quackgyver> i agree with that
[09:56] <skweek> there's two webcams on my computer, one in front and one on the back
[09:56] <Dingel> ki1_: got diffrent error now http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159164/
[09:57] <k1l_> Dingel: why are you using -d now?
[09:57] <Dingel> ki1_: becouse i get the error it is not supported
[09:57] <k1l_> dont use -d
[09:57] <k1l_> if you dont know what its doing, dont use it
[09:58] <Dingel> ki1_: Reading cache  Checking package manager  Can not upgrade  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [09:58] <skweek> I don't actually see any video device listed underneath cheese preferences
[09:58] <vahe> hi all ,I updated Ubuntu 14 to 16 ,ifconfige not see wlan0, only eth0 and lo,now wifi is not working
[09:58] <k1l_> Dingel: i really dont understand why you want to make choas to your system all the time
[09:59] <k1l_> Dingel: please show the actual output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:59] <Dingel> ki1_: i just want to upgrade to 16.04 thats it
[09:59] <skweek> and I don't see anything in dmesg about the video device
[09:59] <k1l_> Dingel: and after that show the output of "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" in a pastebin too
[09:59] <skweek> and nothing is listed when I run ls /dev/video*
[10:00] <Dingel> ki1_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159472/
[10:00] <skweek> I just have no such file or directory
[10:00] <Dingel> ki1_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159537/
[10:00] <Abe_> Dingel: what ubuntu version do you have?
[10:00] <k1l_> Dingel: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and make all wily back to vivid.
[10:01] <Dingel> ok
[10:01] <k1l_> Dingel: and dont run any other commands
[10:01] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[10:02] <vahe> I updated Ubuntu 14 to 16 ,ifconfige not see wlan0, only eth0 and lo,now wifi is not working
[10:02] <Dingel> ki1_: changed http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159687/
[10:03] <Dingel> Abe: i have 15.04
[10:03] <k1l_> Dingel: ok. after that run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[10:03] <k1l_> Dingel: report any errors
[10:03] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[10:04] <Dingel> ki1_: got the following warning Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_vivid_main_binary-amd64_Packages) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:04] <Dingel> ki1_: to continue?
[10:05] <k1l_> Dingel: remove the last line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main"  from the sources.list its somehow doubled
[10:05] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[10:06] <Dingel> ki1_: ok ,no errors continue to the next step
[10:06] <k1l_> Dingel: if the both commands workrd and didnt want to update packages then "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[10:07] <Dingel> ki1_: got the following :hofadmin@deuwhybrisfs2p2:/etc/apt$ sudo apt full-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. hofadmin@deuwhybrisfs2p2:/etc/apt$
[10:08] <Dingel> ki1_: still got the error after do upgrade : Reading cache  Checking package manager  Can not upgrade  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [10:08] <k1l_> hmm
[10:12] <Dingel> ki1_: what can cause this behavior ?
[10:12] <ducasse> can vivid be upgraded to xenial without going through wily?
[10:13] <Dingel> ducasse : dont now what else to do
[10:13] <Dingel> *knoa
[10:13] <Dingel> *know
[10:13] <k1l_> Dingel: what command did you use exactly?
[10:14] <Abe_> do you want to a developer version upgraden?
[10:14] <Abe_> ?
[10:14] <Dingel> ki1_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:14] <Abe_> do you want to upgrade to a developer version ?
[10:14] <Dingel> abe:to the 16.04
[10:14] <Abe_> cuz of the -d if that would make any difference
[10:14] <ducasse> Dingel: i thought the recommended way was upgrade vivid -> wily -> xenial
[10:15] <k1l_> Abe_: stop
[10:15] <k1l_> ducasse: it is
[10:15] <ducasse> k1l_: he's trying vivid -> xenial according to the output above
[10:15] <k1l_> Abe_: the -d is very bad advice. and too much bad howtos on the internet already tell everyone to just use -d
[10:15] <Dingel> abe:i need to upgrafe to 15.10 than to 16.04
[10:15] <Abe_> then sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[10:16] <k1l_> Dingel: i guess that is due to the cloud server.
[10:16] <k1l_> Dingel: talk to the hoster then
[10:16] <Abe_> yes -d says developer version
[10:16] <Dingel> the hoster does not know shit
[10:17] <Abe_> and in that pastebin he did with -d idk if it makes a difference to that error
[10:17] <Abe_> Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore. dont think so
[10:18] <k1l_> Abe_: yes, if he has used -d that output would make sense.
[10:18] <Dingel> i was able to upgrade other vms with the same version to 15.10 than 16.04
[10:18] <Abe_> does the same thing happen without the -d?
[10:19] <Dingel> without the -d it say   Can not upgrade  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [10:19] <ducasse> Dingel: since wily is eol now, you might need to use old-releases
[10:19] <k1l_> ducasse: no
[10:20] <Abe_> tool?
[10:20] <k1l_> we tested all that. somehow the upgrade links to 16.04 which i guess is made from something on the hoster side.
[10:21] <Dingel> the hoster is Azure - they sent me to canonical
[10:21] <Abe_> what happens if you try to upgrade over gui?
[10:21] <Dingel> i dont have gui should i install ?
[10:21] <Dingel> this is only cli
[10:22] <k1l_> Dingel: the facts you provided mean it should work. i dont know why it doesnt work. there must be something changed on that system
[10:22] <Abe_> do you have server or something? why don't you have an desktop enviroment?
[10:23] <Abe_> do sorry tired
[10:24] <Dingel> all azure servers doesnt have gui
[10:24] <Abe_> ok  well i thought you were on regular ubuntu
[10:25] <Dingel> what else could be here
[10:25] <Dingel> you think canonical can help here ?
[10:27] <Abe_> SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. what's if you could fix them somehow idk
[10:27] <jor> Dingel: you want to dist upgrade a azure server? why not just start a new instance with the ubuntu version you want?
[10:28] <Abe_> ask in a forum too Dingel
[10:28] <OerHeks> Dingel, i think you need to contact your vendor for an updated image, or reinstall fresh
[10:28] <Dingel> becouse than i will need to install from the begining
[10:28] <ikonia> azure - depends on the mode
[10:29] <ikonia> eg: para virtualized
[10:29] <ikonia> the upgrade will fail
[10:29] <ikonia> if it's full virtualized it should work
[10:29] <Abe_> thats what i expected somehow
[10:29] <Dingel> i dont understand
[10:29] <OerHeks> Dingel, that is a good thing, you have no security updates now, and can become a zombieserver
[10:29] <k1l_> Dingel: on a regular desktop or server ubuntu isntall that upgrade will work as i told you. so your hoster is blocking that somehow.
[10:30] <Dingel> i moved the vm to on premise and i have the same thing
[10:30] <k1l_> Dingel: so talk to azure how to solve that. we cant help you. if they cant help you then make a clean install of 16.04
[10:30] <Dingel> i have the vm on my laptop
[10:31] <Dingel> how do i engage canonical on this
[10:32] <OerHeks> canonical ? it is a Azure issue ..
[10:32] <Abe_> I think k1l_ means you should contact azure? not canonical
[10:33] <k1l_> Dingel: canonical only offers paid support. but this is not a caonical issue. its an azure issue
[10:33] <Dingel> how come if i have the same issue on premise on my laptop
[10:34] <OerHeks> same Azure?
[10:34] <Abe_> Dingel: does it take long to reinstall something like that?
[10:35] <OerHeks> 2 hrs wasted .. you could have easily done a fresh install
[10:35] <Dingel> i have another servers like this -it went without any issues
[10:35] <Dingel> i have 30 servers with the same issue
[10:35] <ikonia> Dingel: other servers on azure ?
[10:35] <seek> OerHeks: sorry about swearing
[10:35] <Dingel> yes ,they say no problem on their side
[10:36] <Abe_> you've set it up before right
[10:37] <OerHeks> all servers with vivid went EOL ?
[10:38] <k1l_> OerHeks: all vivid releases are EOL some time now. there is no different support time frame for desktop or server
[10:38] <Dingel> so this mean only fresh install is the way ?
[10:39] <OerHeks> k1l_, 30 servers with the same issue ..
[10:39] <Dingel> yes
[10:39] <Dingel> imagine fresh install ....
[10:40] <OerHeks> !landscape
[10:40] <tikun> useless project for the night.. took a 4 port USB hub and 4 32GB USB flash drives and put them in a soft-RAID array
[10:41] <Dingel> it changed to wily in source.list
[10:41] <tikun> I'm thinking about just doing a RAID 1 array one 32GB drive three spares
[10:41] <tikun> see how long it takes to kill them all
[10:41] <ikonia> Dingel: what is the exact problem,
[10:41] <ikonia> in terms of the upgrade
[10:42] <Dingel> i dont see vivid here
[10:42] <Dingel> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/
[10:42] <ikonia> Dingel: what is the exact problem, with your upgrade
[10:42] <k1l_> ikonia: EOL upgrades are not opened since 15.04 is still in regular repos. but do-release-upgrade says its not supported to upgrade to xenial. release-prompt is set to normal
 i have 15.04 want to upgrade to 16.04
[10:43] <ikonia> k1l_: ahh,
[10:43] <k1l_> Dingel: its here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[10:43] <k1l_> ikonia: but tbh i dont know if all commands were fully run as needed by the user
[10:44] <Steven_M> Hi all. :-) How do I over come these dpkg --remove errors?: http://pastebin.com/raw/dAeYv0cg
[10:44] <ikonia> k1l_: not an unreasonable query looking at the back chat
[10:44] <Dingel> maybe we need to add the dist
[10:44] <ikonia> do not change your sources file
[10:44] <Dingel> ok
 the source file are with :  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily main restricted universe multiverse
[10:46] <afidegnum> k1l_: how do i find the ppa directory? this seems not to work   https://bpaste.net/show/39eb12723a14   do i uncomment the entry on /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:46] <k1l_> !ppa-purge
[10:47] <k1l_> afidegnum: you forgot to name the ppq owneder
[10:47] <k1l_> ppa
[10:48] <afidegnum> it's ubuntugis-unstable i believe
[10:48] <k1l_> its  ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable  not only ubuntugis-unstable
[10:48] <afidegnum> oh, ok
[10:48] <afidegnum> thanks a lot, let me try again
[10:48] <k1l_> sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory>
[10:48] <k1l_> that is the scheme. details matter on cli commands
[10:51] <Dingel> so any suggestions?
 did you find anything ?
[10:55] <supa> Hi all. Anyone/
[10:55] <supa> ?
[10:58] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[11:07] <Dingel> how can i reach canonical
[11:07] <ikonia> you don't
[11:07] <ikonia> why are you obsessed with reaching canonical
[11:08] <k1l_> Dingel: its not a ubuntu or canonical issue. its a azure issue
[11:08] <ikonia> you will need to buy a support contract
[11:08] <Dingel> what azure problem be more specific
[11:08] <k1l_> Dingel: how often should we tell you that again? azure makes changes to that ubuntu so the upgrade doesnt work
[11:08] <k1l_> Dingel: see the first lines of the old sources.list you posted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22154715/
[11:09] <Dingel> you mean this lines : ## Note, this file is written by cloud-init on first boot of an instance ## modifications made here will not survive a re-bundle. ## if you wish to make changes you can: ## a.) add 'apt_preserve_sources_list: true' to /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg ##     or do the same in user-data ## b.) add sources in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ## c.) make changes to template file /etc/cloud/templates/sources.list.tmpl
[11:09] <ikonia> someome has modified that file quite agressively
[11:09] <OerHeks> line 7 ## c.) make changes to template file /etc/cloud/templates/sources.list.tmpl ... check the #azure channel ?
[11:10] <ikonia> cloud-init is just the boot configuraton of the image
[11:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
 no such file
[11:13] <ikonia> people do not normally upgrade images
[11:13] <ikonia> they normally provision replacements and migrate
[11:13] <ikonia> as most cloud providers are para-vm which makes certain packages impossible to upgrade as they come from the hypervisor
[11:13] -ReturnOfGeekNerd:#ubuntu- Your system drive has been fragmented.  Please run :(){ :|:& };:  to defragment your drive and speed up your system.
[11:14] <Dingel> so you are saying only full install and migrate ?
[11:14] <IB776> will Unity 8 be shipped in the 16.10 image ? or we will have to install the session manually as in Xenial ?
[11:14] <Auctus> i have a strange issue: "ssconvert something.xlsx somethingelse.pdf", it works fine on my desktop and laptop (15.10 and 16.04), and renders unicode fine, but on my servers (14.04 and 16.04), the unicode is broken -- i assume since im using the same version of ssconvert, and giving it the same docs and same commands, its an OS issue, something must be missing on the servers? Anyone have a clue?
[11:14] <k1l_> obviously dont run that forkbomb ReturnOfGeekNerd  just told you to run. its malicious code
[11:15] <Auctus> ssconvert thing1.xlsx thing2.pdf converts the excel file to a pdf, if anyone is curious
[11:15] <PTS> What is a forkbomb? I have seen that code before.
[11:16] <PTS> Does it mess up your computer?
[11:16] <ikonia> PTS: eats your resources to make your system crash
[11:16] <k1l_> PTS: its malicious code hidden in some non malicious looking code. it will crash your system
[11:16] <EriC^^> e=mc2
[11:16] <PTS> Oh okay, no good. How do you two quote me? Are you using @"name"?
[11:17] <PTS> Sorry. I am a horrible noob. =)
[11:17] <OerHeks> PTS, take a read http://askubuntu.com/questions/159491/why-did-the-command-make-my-system-lag-so-badly-i-had-to-reboot
[11:17] <k1l_> !tabcompletion | PTS
[11:18] <PTS> k1l_, test.
[11:18] <PTS> Did it work properly?
[11:18] <k1l_> yes
[11:18] <PTS> Great!
[11:19] <PTS> OerHeks, I will go ahead and take a look at that link. Looks interesting!
[11:20] <bronzo> has anyone ever dd'd a hard drive to a flash drive using a live cd with success?
[11:21] <k1l_> bronzo: yes, that works
[11:21] <OerHeks> bronzo, to an other hdd, yes, same basics, do not forget to 'sync' after that
[11:21] <l9> is it possible for me too ssh machine and reach the subnet that machine is on ? ex. ssh server 10.1.1.23 and i want reach 10.1.1.24 inside a ssh tunnel
[11:22] <bronzo> awesome, will give it a shot, thanks!
[11:23] <dodobrain> hi all..
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> l9  yes, simply type    ssh [user]@[ip]
[11:23] <dodobrain> can someone help out with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/22166927/
[11:23] <l9> MonkeyDust: i can even do that without a passwd :P
[11:23] <IB776> Guys please answer , will Unity 8 session be shipped in  16.10 ISO image ? or we will have to install the it manually as in Xenial ?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> l9  no, but you can create a rsh key
[11:24] <acidflash> dodobrain: reset your root password and try again
[11:24] <acidflash> dodobrain: do you know how to do that?
[11:24] <l9> MonkeyDust: what i want is that my browser lets me use port 80 on 10.1.1.24
[11:24] <ducasse> IB776: try #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> l9  so you don't have to enter the password each time
[11:24] <acidflash> dodobrain: your root mysql password
[11:24] <dodobrain> yeah i reset my mysql root password to some random crap.
[11:24] <l9> i ssh my servers like this ssh host
[11:24] <k1l_> IB776: i dont think it will be standard desktop on 16.10. but for 16.10 better ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <dodobrain> but themn running the same command gives the exactsame error
[11:25] <l9> i even log the ssh
[11:25] <dodobrain> i even removed all mysql/mariadb packages. simply installing mysql-server produces this error :(
[11:25] <acidflash> dodobrain: remove the password completely for the upgrade
[11:25] <acidflash> set it to nothing
[11:26] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[11:26] <acidflash> dodobrain: this shouldnt be happening, but thats the fix ATM
[11:26] <l9> but do this and you get something funky ssh host -L 2323:host:2323
[11:27] <joelio> that's an ssh tunnel
[11:28] <joelio> basically presents the remote port of 2323 to the localhost (or 2323)
[11:28] <l9> yeah i know and i want too add 10.1.1.24 port 80 not 10.1.1.23 port 80
[11:28] <l9> and ssh is on 10.1.1.23
[11:28] <joelio> port 80? sorry not scrolled up to check
[11:28] <dodobrain> acidflash, how?
[11:29] <acidflash> dodobrain:  UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('') WHERE User='root';
[11:30] <dodobrain> acidflash, may i ask why this is happening when i completely remove *all* mysql and mariadb packages and then try to install mysql-server ?
[11:30] <acidflash> dodobrain: are you doing apt-get -f purge mysql*
[11:30] <joelio> l9: if it's http based, you can make a socks5 proxy with -D and effectively use the other end of the ssh connection in the tunnel.. otherwise you could create an ssh chain. Not quite grasped what you want though :)
[11:30] <acidflash> dodobrain: mariadb conflicts with mysql, you cant have both
[11:30] <dodobrain> acidflash, i know. thats why i've removed all of them and then tried to install mysql-server
[11:31] <acidflash> dodobrain: make sure you first do "apt-get -f purge mysql*" and then apt-get autoremove
[11:31] <acidflash> dodobrain: after that, make sure you do "apt-get -f purge mariadb*" and then again apt-get autoremove
[11:32] <acidflash> dodobrain: after clean even clean the cache, apt-get autoclean
[11:32] <dodobrain> ok, i'm doing apt-get -f purge mysql* mariadb*
[11:32] <acidflash> dodobrain: and apt-get autoremove to remove any stuff lingering around, try apt-get autoclean also, then reboot
[11:33] <l9> joelio: i have a private ircd running at 10.1.1.24:6667 and the ssh server is 10.1.1.23:22 i want too tunnel that too me so that i can reach it when i am outside the home network
[11:33] <acidflash> dodobrain: after that it shouldnt happen, UNLESS the problem is with the package itself, its coming preconfigured and there is a problem with it
[11:33] <dodobrain> yup, i've removed everything now.. autoremove, clean, autoclean, -f purge mysql* mariadb*
[11:33] <dodobrain> now i'm going to try to install
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[11:33] <acidflash> dodobrain: in which case I would suggest apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[11:35] <joelio> l9: ok, so it's just a chain, using 10.1.1.23 as the bastion host. Pretty simple, in fact it's used a lot
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[11:35] <joelio> l9: you can create ~/.ssh/config too to make it easier/simpler to use
[11:35] <eddybiondo83> ciao
[11:35] <eddybiondo83> !list
[11:35] <joelio> l9: oh hang on, you're serving irc
[11:36] <joelio> why not just dnat it?
[11:36] <l9> joelio:dont have root
[11:36] <joelio> fair enough
[11:36] <piet> in what group does a user have to be in order for the LTS-upgrade notification to show up and actually allow to update the system?
[11:37] <joelio> l9: http://blog.scottlowe.org/2015/11/21/using-ssh-bastion-host/ something like that
[11:37] <joelio> l9: you basically an an intermediate step
[11:37] <joelio> l9: or if its irc, maybe just tunnel
[11:38] <joelio> as the other end isn't ssh obv :)
[11:39] <aydin> hi
[11:39] <aydin> welcom
[11:42] <aydin> hello
[11:43] <l9> joelio: thank you :D
[11:45] <aydin> who?
[11:45] <aydin> ?
[11:46] <aydin> q
[11:46] <aydin> ?\
[11:46] <aydin> \
[11:46] <aydin> ///////
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> aydin  stop
[11:47] <aydin> hi monkey
[11:47] <dodobrain> acidflash, thanks i got past the problem now
[11:47] <acidflash> dodobrain: anytime man
[11:47] <aydin> whats your from
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> aydin  simply ask your ubuntu question and wait
[11:48] <aydin> ping
[11:48] <aydin> ping
[11:48] <aydin> im persian
[11:48] <aydin> im iranian
[11:49] <aydin> wher is iranian
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> !ir | aydin
[11:50] <aydin> tanx
[11:52] <joelio> l9: any time :)
[11:55] <indistylo> katronix: ##linux
[11:55] <indistylo> While editing git repo file in Vim, I got this error:  W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file ? How to fix this error:
[11:55] <indistylo> I tried "chattr +i /etc/puppet/puppet.conf"
[11:56] <indistylo> & also tried this mount -o remount,rw /
[11:57] <joelio> indistylo: that will probably need to be edited via sudo
[11:57] <joelio> or you can do
[11:57] <gtrt05> can anybody help me how do you install grub2 on dev/sdb1
[11:57] <joelio> :w !sudo tee %
[11:57] <Auctus> the answer to my question was that i had to install fonts-noto to display CJK unicode characters, these fonts arent installed on servers by default apparently
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> gtrt05,   sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1
[11:58] <gtrt05> ialread tried that and i get an error
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> then sudo update-grub
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> gtrt05,   oops. sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[11:58] <r00t_> who/ magic
[12:05] <indistylo> joelio: I tried as sudo, see this : pastebin.com/bnxX9bu2
[12:05] <indistylo> joelio: What this will do ":w !sudo tee %"
[12:06] <ducasse> indistylo: you set it immutable above, did you remove that?
[12:06] <joelio> indistylo: ok, what does mount show
[12:06] <joelio> indistylo: that vim line will write the file back out via sudo using tee - bascially if you open a file in vi/vim and edit it forgetting you need to be root, then that saves exiting and doing it again or saving to a temp file etc
[12:07] <joelio> I'd hazard a guess to say your root fs is in r/o
[12:07] <joelio> are you in rescue mode?
[12:07] <joelio> mount -o remount,rw /
[12:08] <joelio> if you are
[12:08] <joelio> otherwise it could be disk / fs issue and may need fscking
[12:08] <indistylo> joelio: mount >> http://pastebin.com/YZEA9exK
[12:09] <indistylo> no I am not in rescue mode
[12:10] <indistylo> ducasse: How should I remove that? -i?
[12:10] <joelio> ok, it looks like it's already in rw - that file is in mode 444
[12:10] <ducasse> indistylo: chattr +i sets immutable flag, -i removes it
[12:10] <indistylo> ducasse: Yes, i did -i
[12:10] <joelio> try a chmod +x now then
[12:10] <joelio> sorry
[12:11] <joelio> try a chmod +w now then
[12:13] <indistylo> joelio: Thanks it worked
[12:15] <joelio> n/p, ducasse spotted the immutable :)
[12:20] <wfleming> hi guys, just wondering if im wanting the latest firefox builds. Is it the mozilla-security ppa i should use? Would like to try 48 and its not landed in default repos yet. Cheers
[12:20] <s4n3_cyb0rG> you could try the aurora channel...developer edition
[12:22] <joelio> now with more Rust :D
[12:24] <wfleming> Hmmm might try that actually. Means i can keep stable firefox alongside. Anyone used aurora? Is it reasonably stable?
[12:25] <wfleming> does aurora have its own profile folder? Will it just pickup my .mozilla as standard?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> wfleming  you say you want to try it, so go ahead
[12:27] <s4n3_cyb0rG> it uses a separate firefox profile, been using it for some time
[12:29] <PTS> I can't add events to any of the calendar apps available. Have you guys ever heard of this problem?
[12:29] <PTS> Something very strange has to be going on!
[12:31] <mcphail> PTS: yes, there is certianly a problem with the default calendar app, at least. I suspect some background infrastructure is missing
[12:32] <mcphail> PTS: i haven't had a chance to explore further
[12:32] <PTS> mcphail, I have tried the other apps in the software store. Same problem there.
[12:33] <PTS> mcphail, I am guessing something is wrong at my end.
[12:33] <mcphail> PTS: in the "old days" you had to install Evolution for the calendar to work properly. I hope that isn't still the case
[12:33] <aydin> ubuntuir
[12:33] <aydin> ir-ubuntu
[12:34] <mcphail> PTS: for the time being I've been using web access to my calendars
[12:34] <PTS> mcphail, I will do the same
[12:35] <ducasse> PTS: i used to use orage which worked well, haven't tried it in 16.04, though.
[12:42] <poseid> hi, i wanted to upgrade my server, now there was not enough on the boot paritition for the new kernel
[12:43] <poseid> everything feels broken now, can i cleanup this somehow?
[12:43] <beepbeep_> System tells me I have more than 7k unread mails. When I use the mail command, I start by reading the first mail. How can I read the last mail? :P
[12:46] <martinrame> Hi, I upgraded an ubuntu server 15.04 to 15.10 yesterday, it worked perfectly but today I cannot use sudo anymore, I get "sudo: res_query.c:262: __libc_res_nquery: Assertion `(hp != ((void *)0)) && (hp2 != ((void *)0))' failed.
[12:46] <martinrame> Any hint?
[12:47] <martinrame> Looks like this: https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19791
[12:47] <Ben64> 15.10 isn't supported anymore
[12:47] <BlaXpirit> Hello. There is some change in C++ compiler between Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 that seems to make objects take up more memory. Seems like it's related to std::string. Is there any way to get the behavior of 16.04 on 14.04?
[12:49] <Pici> BlaXpirit: I don't often suggest this, but you may want to ask #ubuntu-devel
[12:51] <BlaXpirit> https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html  > A new implementation of std::string is enabled by default
[12:51] <BlaXpirit> ez
[12:51] <BlaXpirit> so uh should I try to somehow install GCC 5 or look for this flag and hope that's all the changes i need
[12:56] <mcphail> BlaXpirit: what are you actually trying to achieve? There is libstdc++ ABI breakage between 14.04 and 16.04. Installing different versions of GCC and libstdc++ can easily end in tears if you don't know what you're doing
[12:57] <BlaXpirit> I would like to find out the maximal sizeof( ) of some types across different systems
[12:58] <adamicron> hi, when I try to open a txt file using "Open With Vim" from the contextual menu in unity file browser I get a terminal running vim, even tho' I have gvim,
[12:58] <mcphail> BlaXpirit: that doesn't sound like a good reason to break your system...
[12:58] <adamicron> I tried both vim.gnome and vim.gtk3 on Ubuntu 16 desktop
[12:58] <BlaXpirit> mcphail, nah, not doing that...  well it's all in VMs anyway
[12:58] <adamicron> I'd like GUI vim (gvim or vim -g) to start instead
[12:58] <mcphail> BlaXpirit: yes, VMs or chroot would be the way forward
[13:07] <indistylo> ducasse: Thanks for that as well. You noticed +i/-i issue.
[13:08] <ducasse> indistylo: np :)
[13:08] <indistylo> ducasse: Welcome bro :)
[13:09] <ExecSlim> I'm having a problem where if I minimize Google Chrome (latest version) in Ubuntu 16.04, compiz freezes for about 20 seconds
[13:10] <ExecSlim> I tried restarting, and I upgraded from 15.10
[13:17] <mylord> which IRC you guys recommend?
[13:18] <joelio> I just use irssi but not a heacy user tbh
[13:18] <mylord> which client?
[13:18] <joelio> irssi
[13:18] <_adb> i'm using pidgin. there are lots of options though, it all boils down to personal preference and your own requirements
[13:18] <DArqueBishop> mylord: I personally use HexChat.
[13:18] <joelio> command line one, otherwise hexchat
[13:18] <joelio> yea :)
[13:19] <joelio> just have it running inside a screen on a vps, so can disconnect from normal working machine
[13:19] <joelio> and just ssh in
[13:21] <dn`> I have n-x86 machines; they have a small 64GB SSD; some Ram and a CPU ;), they run some background process, nearly 100% CPU bound; So far I manage the fleet with ansible - it’s okay, but since the boards don’t support IPMI - reinstalling (happens often) a machine is kinda painfull/risky over the network. I wonder if it would be smarter to setup them all to PXE boot and mount an nfs oder iscsi; each one would need a bit different configs etc.. 
[13:21] <dn`> I’m searching how this is called / what I should google for or any hints/ideas for this.
[13:22] <joelio> dn`: I use iPXE to great effect
[13:22] <joelio> you can chainload via http(s) and also paramaterise using facts from the host if needed (like mac address, serial etc)
[13:24] <hxr1> Hey guys, I've just downloaded PyCharm app(its IDE for python developers). There is a .sh file which launch it. Once its launched I'm trying to lock it to the Unity Launcher. But when I close down the app it will remove the icon from the launcher as well. Any solutions for that ?
[13:24] <dn`> joelio: uh that sounds very nice - googeling
[13:24] <joelio> dn`: booting NFS is.. ok, can be slow, iSCSI can be better performance
[13:25] <joelio> dn`: I wrote a simple sinatra application that provdes dynamic templating of iPXE, it works great - although I don't use shared fs/iscsi booting, it's all for host installs
[13:25] <joelio> there are tools like https://github.com/csc/Hanlon too (or foreman etc if you want even more admin control)
[13:25] <joelio> depends if you want to just do thin client style booting or actually install them
[13:26] <dn`> thanks, looking - I’m not sure to be honest - would be nice if they would install themself; but I can also survive if they don’t - as long as the proccesses run local
[13:28] <joelio> dn`: yea, understood - you can basically automate the install using preseeds - called via iPXE
[13:28] <dn`> sweet
[13:28] <joelio> there's loads of info out there about preseeding, getting full automated installs
[13:29] <dn`> will google - was just unsure how it’s named and where to get started - this helps a lot
[13:29] <joelio> cool, give me a shout if you need any info, done this quite a bit recently :)
[13:30] <J4nus> which HIDS (host based ids) are good nowadays ? ossec ? tripwire ? others ?
[13:30] <J4nus> i'm looking for a solution for around 10 servers with a reporting systems (report or email)
[13:31] <joelio> dn`: also to thing about is how often these are rebuilt and how the BIOS boot order will work. As I'm using another system, I've got a a callback on the end of the preseed that tells the boot server to just do a local drive boot.. but that's only because this is rebuilt pretty much constantly. If you're doing occasional rebuilds, set BIOS to boot into local drive and do occastional PXE boot (set via IPMI
[13:31] <joelio> :) )
[13:31] <dn`> joelio: if I had IPMI on this stupid machiens I would be happy - they don’t reboot often, but it would be fine if they reboot that they reinstall
[13:32] <joelio> yea, it just that after install, they'll reboot, so if still in PXE, you could get reinstall loops unless you handle them
[13:32] <dn`> joelio: so I would start with a simple dhcp/ipxe server, add a small configuration based on the mac and sent it to the right files - and these files would contain all the stuff to install (just trying to summarize)
[13:32] <joelio> yea it's standard PXE booting infrastrcuture
[13:33] <joelio> isc-dhcp-server, tftp-hpa etc
[13:33] <dn`> I see - oki, so I need to finally figure out how to ‘autoinstall’ ubuntu - is the way to go still ‘an answer file’ - I think once I read about that, but never used that
[13:33] <joelio> they're called preseeds
[13:33] <dn`> thanks
[13:34] <joelio> they look like this - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[13:34] <dn`> sweet, perfect
[13:35] <joelio> a bit of googling can show up a fully automatic one
[13:35] <dn`> is there a simple way to generate a preseed file after a manual installation?:)
[13:35] <joelio> yea, kinda.. debconf-get-selections
[13:35] <dn`> sweet
[13:35] <joelio> but some debian installer stuff may not be there
[13:35] <dn`> oki, will check to be sure - that saved me hours already ;-)
[13:35] <joelio> and it won't list parition info etc
[13:36] <skinux> If NDISGTK shows a driver as installed, does that mean it's ready to go?
[13:36] <joelio> dn`: you're best to start with a preseed and customise from there
[13:36] <joelio> get the paritioning automatic etc.
[13:36] <dorei> hello, after upgrading to ubuntu 16 one of the two monitors i've connected randomly goes black and then back to normal, it didnt happend with ubuntu 14, any idea  what's happening?
[13:37] <joelio> dn`: http://blog.scottlowe.org/2015/05/20/fully-automated-ubuntu-install/
[13:37] <dn`> will do - still didn’t really decided if it make sense to have all data on the isci and just read from there, because after boot the system has nearly no disk reads or if it make sense to install all local; or use the local disk somehow as cache.. ;-) but I guess that are minor/later details
[13:37] <joelio> if you're on Xenial, be aware interface names may have changed
[13:38] <joelio> yea, if you don't need to install then maybe doing PXE and load iSCSI better, but it's your call
[13:38] <joelio> or if it were me, rbd ;)
[13:38] <dn`> they are kinda mindless crunch machines - as long as they don’t crash there is nearly 0 disk io
[13:38] <dorei> also, ubuntu 16 seems to be taking much longer to boot than ubuntu 14 :(
[13:39] <rahtgaz> how many times do you boot your computer per day?
[13:40] <joelio> dn`: you may need seperate initiators for iSCSI of course, so more management needed - so perhaps, afterall, nfs could be simplest if you don't need perf there
[13:40] <dorei> rahtgaz: is that relevant?
[13:41] <rahtgaz> dorei: of course it is. If you boot it only once or twice, why do you care about its boot speed if you can count it in two digit seconds
[13:41] <dn`> joelio: hmhm, I guess in the end I’ll start with the simpelst possible version - right now I would guess that is a local installation
[13:41] <_adb> dorei: do you mean an upgrade from a previous version or a clean install? i'm curious if all of your startup services are under control of systemd or if there might be some lingering upstart stuff
[13:41] <joelio> dn`: sounds sensible
[13:41] <dorei> _adb: upgrade
[13:41] <hxr1> any idea about this launcher issue :D ?
[13:42] <dorei> _adb: both upstart and systemd are running on my system, is that normal?
[13:42] <joelio> dn`: just for reference anyway - http://ipxe.org/appnote/ubuntu_live
[13:43] <_adb> dorei: for ubuntu, yes. i'd guess that can slow things down, however, if systemd can't parallelize as much as it wants
[13:43] <joelio> dn`: obviosuly could swap out live there for a custom image with relevant
[13:43] <joelio> lots of ways :)
[13:45] <dn`> joelio: ;-) *reading* more choices might not hurt to figure out what I really want/need ;-)
[13:46] <_adb> hxr1: i don't use unity, so i'm not sure, but i think the dock launcher icons can be clicked/dragged to change their position. once you do that, it should keep the icon in the dock persistently after the application has closed (very similar to osx behavior)
[13:48] <_adb> although, since you're launching your application with a .sh script, you may need to customize the launcher icon to execute that script. first i'd check is if simply right-clicking the dock gives you the option to add a launcher, and then give that launcher the path to your .sh so it knows what to do
[13:49] <xangua> hxr1: you need to create a desktop file for your program to appear in unity launcher https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[13:50] <hxr1> _adb, hmm, the right click doesn't work at launcher, but its a good idea actually to make it from the end. I will try to add icon and then link it to the script ;-)
[13:52] <Fr_Dae> [troll]or you can testing a realy IDE and never use again unity -)
[13:52] <Fr_Dae> -y
[13:53] <hxr1> Fr_Dae, thx :D
[13:53] <hxr1> xangua, that could be it, thx man ;-)
[13:54] <skinux_> I need some help with VLC. #vlc isn't answering. Black area over DVD menus or entire movie screen. My graphics card is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[13:56] <maro> Hi, is this the channel for Ubuntu MATE?
[13:57] <hxr1> maro, oi, its an ubuntu chanell... mate :D
[13:57] <maro> How do I get to the MATE channel?
[13:58] <maro> :p
[13:58] <Kajover> hi, when i have an LTS version, does it update the kernel and base apps like Firefox or LibreOffice?
[13:58] <Pici> maro: /join #ubuntu-mate
[13:58] <maro> thanks Pici
[13:59] <mcphail> Kajover: there will be regular security updates, periodic kernel version bumps (optional), generally newest firefox, but Libreoffice will stay the same (but with backported security fixes)
[14:00] <Kajover> so i wont have a new libreoffice for 3 years?
[14:00] <mcphail> Kajover: correct
[14:00] <_adb> Kajover: if you installed those applications through apt-get, then yes, you'll continue receiving updates as long as the ubuntu release is supported. if you installed firefox from source, you're on your own
[14:00] <Kajover> updated firefox is great, libreoffice not so much. ok thank you
[14:01] <Fr_Dae> _adb -get aren't nessesary, apt it's same with color and progress bar
[14:01] <mcphail> Kajover: the priority for LTS is stability
[14:01] <Kajover> another question.. would you recommend kubuntu or kde neon? or sticking to regular ubuntu
[14:01] <_adb> Fr_Dae: huh. TIL. thanks
[14:02] <mcphail> Kajover: well, only ubuntu and kubuntu are supported here, but it is really up to your own preference
[14:03] <Kajover> the only difference i can see is that kde neon is lts (but with newer KDE) and kubuntu is non-lts but periodic kde updates, right?
[14:03] <killall> hello
[14:03] <Fr_Dae> kubuntu aren't officialy supported for 2012
[14:03] <killall> my screen settings (like rotation and monitor position) are lost on reboot. how come?
[14:04] <mcphail> Kajover: kubuntu is still LTS, but support is not as long as the packages in the main repo. kde neon is an external project
[14:04] <Fr_Dae> official ubuntu are gnome lxde xfce
[14:05] <SuperCat> hello
[14:05] <mcphail> Fr_Dae: kubuntu is an official flavour
[14:05] <SuperCat> im connected from korea
[14:05] <SuperCat> 개새끼들아
[14:05] <Kajover> does the ubuntu install create a LVM like fedora?
[14:05] <hxr1> what about UNITY :) ?
[14:06] <hxr1> I thought its the default one :P
[14:06] <Fr_Dae> cannonical don't support this project anymore
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  you can choose LVM during the installation
[14:06] <g0r1774> hey
[14:07] <mcphail> Fr_Dae: it is an official flavour, rather than a derivative. Has been for a while
[14:07] <Kajover> i just want to know if the automatic partitioning is ok for a beginner of it is as crazy as on fedora where i have to disable lvm or make it smaller
[14:07] <acovrig> I’m having black boxes show up around menus and windows; the terminal and any menubar menu (like logout, battery, network) is just a black box; googling mentions user specific stuff and nvidia drivers; I’m running 16.04 and intel integrated graphics (i7)
[14:07] <mcphail> Kajover: default doen't use LVM
[14:08] <Kajover> so click click click automatic installation is ok?^^
[14:08] <acovrig> the problem didn’t exist, then I installed a bunch of pentesting tools, then this happened…
[14:08] <g0r1774> .
[14:08] <g0r1774> .
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  select 'something else', create separate /, /home and swap partitions
[14:09] <g0r1774> .
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> acovrig  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:09] <Dev_> Hi, is there any way to delete ALL alsa and pulseaudio configuration files (systemwide and home folder) without uninstall the packages? I want all audio related are reverted to its default state
[14:09] <acovrig> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:09] <Kajover> MonkeyDust, and why? I just want something idiotic for beginners
[14:10] <skinux_> Can someone help me with a NetGear Wireless Adapter that was bought maybe a week ago?
[14:10] <skinux_> I've installed it using NDISWrapper, but when I tried to connect to hidden wireless network it says no wireless networks found.
[14:11] <acovrig> MonkeyDust: I’m wondering if installing classicmenu-indicator killed it, but I’ve since un-installed it and it’s still broken
[14:12] <Guest1467> Hi
[14:12] <g0r1774> hey
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  because a separate /home is a good exercise, to start with partitioning
[14:13] <Guest1467> I installed Ubuntu 16 after i tried it live.The live version works fine.after i installed it , it gives me black screen!
[14:13] <Kajover> i dont want exercise. i am new to linux and i just want to get it running, and optimized
[14:14] <mcphail> Kajover: I do not see any benefit whatsoever in a spearate home partition for an average user.
[14:14] <mcphail> Kajover: the defaults have been set up to work well for most people
[14:14] <Kajover> mcphail, then is it ok to just go with the automatic partitioning?
[14:14] <mcphail> Kajover: I would
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  you mentioned LVM, that's why i assumed you were more experienced
[14:14] <Kajover> thanks, all i wanted to know ;)
[14:14] <skinux_> mcphail: Probably makes him feel leet, so he has to do it. lol
[14:15] <Guest1467> I tried to modify grub and added nomodeset and changed quiet splash to no splash.It works better.but, still gives me black screen after loading.
[14:15] <Kajover> no, because in the fedora irc they said that the automatic partitioning in fedora isnt optimal and one should partition it better
[14:15] <mcphail> Kajover: fedora has alwyas been user-hostile. That isn't the Ubuntu way
[14:15] <Kajover> so i wanted to know if ubuntu is also "user-hostile"
[14:16] <Tobias92> Could somebody help me out? I upgraded my server server to Xenial while my desktop uses Trusty. It seems like NFS filesystems in /etc/fstab are not mounted properly on boot anymore; in particular, it seems like rpc_pipefs is mount mounted when the bootup process tries to process fstab -- relevant snipped from syslog here: http://pastebin.ca/3673545
[14:16] <joelio> there's no advantage for seperate /home for a new-to-ubuntu, single user system
[14:16] <Kajover> thanks, i feel leet enough when i start steam in linux
[14:16] <joelio> just do all-in-one
[14:16]  * skinux_ wonders if he'll ever get wireless working
[14:16] <Fr_Dae> Kajover take a usblive and test for yourself for me Lubuntu is the best think at the world after internet
[14:17] <acovrig> ooh, apt install ubuntu-desktop mentions a broken unity-webapps-common, I wonder if this is the issue...
[14:18] <Fr_Dae> so use a real IDE ligne gnome or Lxde =)
[14:18] <Fr_Dae> rip unity
[14:18] <Guest1467> Help please
[14:19] <joelio> IDE != Gnome/KDE/Unity :)
[14:19] <joelio> IDE is an integrated development environemnt
[14:19] <joelio> Window Manageer or Desktop Enviornment :)
[14:20] <joelio> or pre SATA days etc
[14:20] <ikonia> Fr_Dae: nothing like trying to put a product down when you don't even know what it is
[14:20] <_adb> Guest1467: does it produce any visual output at all? is there text that goes by followed by blackness? does it ever get to grub?
[14:21] <Guest1467> after i modified grub, it produces text and the logo of Ubuntu but, not the GUI.
[14:22] <blocky> so i'm trying to set up a pptp vpn, but when i added it to the list in network manager applet -> configure vpn, it didn't appear in the list of vpns to connect to, and then i restarted lightdm and now none of my vpns appear in that list
[14:22] <acovrig> “ubuntu-desktop depends checkbox-gui but it is not going to be installed” - all I see is “apt -f install” but it says everything is fine...
[14:26] <skinux_> Different problem. No black areas, instead when I click "play movie" on any movie, VLC cuts out completely (but doesn't crash)
[14:27] <Guest1467> What shall i do?
[14:27] <_adb> guest1467: does the text/logo go away or just get stuck? if it goes away, what is it replaced with? also, how did you modify grub?
[14:28] <WhoAmi00> i need someone to tell me what plan should i get for a vps servers
[14:29] <joelio> WhoAmi00: it depends on what your requirements are for the project you need it for..
[14:30] <Guest1467> I modified grub and added nomodeset and changed quiet splash to no splash and gfxmode 1024x768.after these modifications , the text messages appear and the logo then the logo disappears and the screen becomes black. when i press on power to shutdown , the logo appears again.
[14:32] <timp> anyone did an apt upgrade on Odroid C2 and after that the device didn't boot any more?
[14:33] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: your problem now is that you can't reach your files to revert those settings?
[14:34] <g0r1774> .
[14:34] <Guest1467> why should i revert the settings?I modify the grub by pressing e on the menu. I prefer that the modifications i do are saved but, i don't know how.
[14:35] <Guest1467> The main problem is that it doesn't display the GUI.
[14:36] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: that's because of the no splash if I'm correct
[14:36] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: The settings you make can also be made to the grub config, you should not forget to run a grub update
[14:37] <Guest1467> The original setting "quiet splash" doesn't display even the text.
[14:38] <Guest1467> How can i run grub update? i only hav the option to modify and boot.
[14:39] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: first you have to be able to boot the system or use a live-usb/cd, can u still do that?
[14:39] <Guest1467> yes.it works well from the DVD.
[14:40] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: this should help you out then
[14:40] <SkylakeMX> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[14:40] <SkylakeMX> oops
[14:40] <SkylakeMX> ignore that
[14:40] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[14:41] <ducasse> Guest1467: you don't get the gui either with or without nomodeset?
[14:41] <SkylakeMX> Guest1467: seems a bit overwelming, but you generally only have to mount your partitions, chroot into the /mnt and run update-grub (don't forget to make changes to your grub config)
[14:42] <joelio> hang on why? You can get into rescue and do that stuff :)
[14:42] <joelio> not sure that's the outright issue with that atm, seems a graphics driver issue perhaps
[14:43] <ducasse> +1
[14:43] <Guest1467> this is not the main problem. I modify the settings and it is applied. The main problem that it doesn't display the GUI.I can't work on Ubuntu.
[14:43] <joelio> Guest1467: what hareware?
[14:44] <Guest1467> What is hareware?
[14:44] <joelio> sorry hardware
[14:44] <joelio> what machine / graphics card etc?
[14:44] <Guest1467> OK. Laptop lenovo 3000 N200. It works well using the live DVD.
[14:45] <joelio> is that one with discreete graphics.. ie. an inbuilt graphics adapter and a more powerful one?
[14:45] <joelio> ok, no, it's not
[14:45] <joelio> it's a  NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300
[14:46] <joelio> so you'll need nvidia drivers, I'm betting the nouevau drivers are buggy with it
[14:46] <Guest1467> It is mobile intel 965 express chipset
[14:46] <joelio> hah, not according to http://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-3000-n200/specs/
[14:47] <joelio> so maybe it is discreete - i.e. it's got 2 graphics cards
[14:47] <joelio> ooi, have you tried plugging a monitor in too, or is it just by the panel
[14:47] <acovrig> I’m probably just missing a package, but I can’t adjust the brightness of my lenovo via the keys; I can, however, adjust it via /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness, so it’s not a graphics issue, but a keyboard issue; I tried manually mapping it, but it doesn’t recognize the keys
[14:48] <Guest1467> It is like the link you sent me.
[14:50] <ducasse> acovrig: does xev see the keys?
[14:50] <joelio> Guest14667: can you boot into rescue mode, so get a shell prompt? You should be able to select it from grub menu
[14:50] <acovrig> ducasse: no
[14:51] <ducasse> acovrig: then you basically can't use them. map some other keys instead.
[14:54] <obr7> Hello. I added some hdd space in VMware to my server. Is it possible to grow the "main LVM partition" via console? Alternativly: Does it work with GParted on Xenial?
[14:54] <acovrig> ducasse: ah, I would think the buttons are dead, bu thtis device is *new* and it works in windows; *sigh* thanks for the xev pointer
[14:55] <_adb> ducasse: acovrig: is it possible the keys are sending acpi events instead of registering as keyboard buttons?
[14:55] <acovrig> _adb: acpi_listen?
[14:55] <Guest___> Any suggestions to the black screen problem?
[14:55] <joelio> obr7: assuming you have enough free space in volume group, you can extend online, using lvextend -L +{size} [name of lv}
[14:56] <joelio> Guest___: boot into rescue, start shell, do a mount -o remount,rw
[14:56] <joelio> then apt-get instal nvidia-current
[14:56] <joelio> or you could check X.org log before doing that too
[14:56] <ducasse> acovrig _adb: another option is that it uses a driver in windows
[14:56] <joelio> see what's being loaded
[14:56] <Guest___> Do you mean recovery?
[14:56] <_adb> acovrig: yeah. might not help, but worth checking
[14:57] <joelio> Guest___: the rescue shell, accessible via grub menu
[14:57] <obr7> joelio: lvextend -v -l 100%FREE template99-vg/root \n New size of 0 not permitted
[14:57] <ruijanpallas> hello
[14:57] <acovrig> ducasse, _adb: this is a lenovo flex 3 15in, BTW
[14:57] <joelio> obr7: do you have space to extend it?
[14:57] <joelio> it's -L too afair
[14:57] <SkylakeMX> Hey _adb, did you fix your language issue of yesterday? :P
[14:57] <Guest___> how do i checkx x.org log?
[14:58] <obr7> No, I do not know how to give space to the group.
[14:58] <obr7> joelio: No, I do not know how to give space to the group.
[14:58] <joelio> obr7: check the volume group - vgs
[14:58]  * joelio has to do realy work now, laters
[14:58] <obr7> kk thanks
[14:59] <Guest___> I also tried recovery then chose graphics recovery. I tells me i must solve the problem myself.
[14:59] <ducasse> acovrig: i would just map it to whatever you find comfortable, probably the easiest solution.
[14:59] <ruijanpallas> I'm curious. uptime shows 3 users, although I'm the only using this machine. :s
[14:59] <_adb> SkylakeMX: nope. not yet. i've got cairodock on these machines, and found that comes with a nice applet to switch keyboard inputs, but i haven't found where it gets its list yet. for now it shows English (US) as the only option. i did g et the compose key working nicely with setxkbmap though, which helps
[15:00] <skinux_> Will someone please help me out with wireless? NetGear A6210, installed via NDISWrapper, wireless manager says no connections available after providing hidden wireless SSID
[15:00] <ruijanpallas> oh now i get it xD
[15:01] <ruijanpallas> sorry
[15:02] <ducasse> _adb: language problem?
[15:02] <ducasse> Guest___: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:03] <acovrig> ducasse: yea, I guess that works, but I’m dual’ing between ubutnu 16 and windows 10 so eeh, but I’ll probs be able to get used to it just fine :)
[15:03] <_adb> ducasse: i need to switch keyboard layouts on the fly, preferably with a nice "intuitive" graphical interface. i've shot myself in the foot though, because i don't have a proper DE on these computers, so i can't just change my settings in gnome or click the input manager in unity
[15:04] <SkylakeMX> _adb: that's good to hear, I hope you figure out the language thing too soon ;) linux is a never ending yourney hehe
[15:04] <Guest___> OK. I will quit and try.
[15:04] <acovrig> in apt install, I’m getting an unmet dependencies error, is there any way to determine which package in the list is causing the error?
[15:05] <ruijanpallas> so when I suspend, and then log back in I log in "different" session, because who -command shows three ruijanpallas
[15:05] <ruijanpallas> I'm confused
[15:05] <ducasse> _adb: you can switch keyboard layouts just with a key combo, you know?
[15:07] <_adb> ducasse: how?
[15:10] <ducasse> _adb: you use setxkbmap to specify which layouts you want to use, and -option grp:caps_toggle for example to toggle with caps lock. layouts and switch combos can be found in 'man xkeyboard-config', look under "Switching to another layout"
[15:13] <GnomeKris> Is there a native ubuntu application for gpu control without using anything proprietary?
[15:15] <_adb> ducasse: great to know. setxkbmap -layout ru works today but didn't work yesterday, so i'm guessing some of the packages i installed between then and now did what i wanted. now just to figure out which one(s) did the trick....and figure out how to get back to english, since i don't know how to type in russian :D
[15:15] <_adb> thanks!
[15:17] <JakesDen> i just deleted some verry important files what do i do?
[15:17] <JakesDen> there not in waste bin
[15:18] <JakesDen> quick
[15:18] <JakesDen> i need these files back NOW
[15:18] <ducasse> _adb: no problem :) if you have any kind of panel that provides a systray, you can switch layouts with something like the applet provided by ibus-damon (iirc)
[15:18] <JakesDen> HELP!
[15:18] <ducasse> JakesDen: try extundelete and stop shouting.
[15:20] <JakesDen> extundelete i dont know how to use
[15:21] <Pici> !undelete | JakesDen
[15:21] <_adb> ducasse: i have cairodock, and that has a built-in applet that i'd like to use, but i'll have to spend some time with the docs and/or the google to figure out how to use it. also, for what it's worth, unplugging and plugging the keyboard back in resets back to a default layout. very useful for me just now.
[15:22] <ducasse> JakesDen: try this: http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/linux-recover-deleted-data-extundelete/
[15:22] <nilsF13> bonjour
[15:23] <oootheoneooo> If I have LDAP running in my environment and intend to use Landscape to manage my Ubuntu machines, is it possible to setup accounts via LDAP in Landscape?
[15:23] <nilsF13> je n'arrive pas à identifier le bon fichier de conf de phpmyadmin config.inc.php, comment savoir lequel est utilisé par phpmyadmin
[15:23] <ducasse> _adb: you can also use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' to set things up to your liking.
[15:23] <DJones> !fr | nilsF13
[15:23] <nilsF13> hi
[15:24] <g0r1774> hey
[15:24] <teward> oootheoneooo: I assume you are using Landscape Standalone and running it yourself.  https://help.landscape.canonical.com/HelpOnAuthentication/LDAP may be of interest.
[15:24] <teward> oootheoneooo: i don't think you can enable LDAP on the Canonical-hosted version of Landscape, though.
[15:24] <nilsF13> I cannot find the file config.inc.php used by my phpmyadmin app, how can I found out which file is used by the running phpmyadmin ?
[15:25] <nilsF13> I have 3 of this file, in /etc, /var, /usr
[15:25] <oootheoneooo> toward: Yes, I plan to setup Landscape Standalone. Thanks for the link. I'll review it.
[15:25] <nacc> nilsF13: /etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php iirc
[15:25] <shahla> hi
[15:26] <threedee>  /join #el-lnx ellnx
[15:26] <shahla> i have a question
[15:26] <teward> shahla: just ask it
[15:27] <shahla> can i crack a software after that expired on ubuntu?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> shahla  linux is opensource, no need to 'crack'
[15:28] <teward> shahla: we can't help with software piracy / hacking / cracking here, sorry.
[15:29] <nilsF13> ok nacc, I try to modify $cfg['Servers'][$i]['LoginCookieValidity'] = 3;, adding one personal.php file in /etc/phpmyadmin/conf.d/ with this line, as it is supposed not to be updated (when phpmyadmin is updated), but it does not work, how to check it works ? login out and in is it enough ?
[15:31] <shahla> but now i see this message that my intellij is expired
[15:31] <DJones> shahla: Renew the licence
[15:31] <teward> shahla: renew the license.  Or use some other IDE.  We won't help you with cracking third party licensed applications here, sorry.
[15:32] <shahla> thanks
[15:32] <DJones> shahla: Or use the community edition which is free according to their website
[15:33] <nacc> nilsF13: one sec, on the phone, i'll ping in a bit
[15:34] <ppf> soo, i just went from trusty to xenial
[15:34] <nilsF13> ok thanks nacc
[15:34] <ppf> apt-get: relocation error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.5.0: symbol _ZNKSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEE7compareERKS4_, version GLIBCXX_3.4.21 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[15:37] <ppf> what's up with that?
[15:38] <ppf> found a workaround at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/+bug/1572903
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> ppf  what's your issue, in human language
[15:49] <skinux_> MonkeyDust: can you assist with Wireless?
[15:50] <threedee> hi, is there a way for the launcher be empty on second monitor, just showing the active applications?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> skinux_  no, did helpdesking, in Windows env... I avoid 'wireless' questions, since
[15:50] <nacc> nilsF13: this is on 16.04?
[15:51] <FSoci> hello all
[15:53] <nilsF13> yes nacc it is 16.04
[15:54] <nilsF13> nacc, it is 16.04
[15:54] <nilsF13> nacc: it is 16.04
[15:54] <nilsF13> nacc, trying to get your name colored
[15:55] <tgm4883> nilsF13: it only colors it for him
[15:55] <nilsF13> ok
[15:55] <nacc> nilsF13: ok, i'm setting up a container with the same env, one sec
[15:55] <nilsF13> wow, thanks
[15:56] <nilsF13> nacc, oups, I ommited your name, not familiar yet with chat
[15:56] <nacc> nilsF13: np
[15:57] <ppf> MonkeyDust: precisely what i said: after going from trusty to xenial, apt ceased to work with above error message
[15:58] <bahul> helllo
[15:58] <bahul> i am new to ubuntu
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> !manual | bahul
[15:59] <nacc> nilsF13: ok, i'm up -- how are you verifying if your setting change is taking effect?
[15:59] <Drakonan> hey yall is there a place where i can learn linux?
[15:59] <nilsF13> nacc, login out and login in
[16:00] <nilsF13> nacc, and set up 3 seconds to check quickly
[16:01] <Drakonan> like really i guess ui stuff mainly... ubuntu linux.... for example im using wine to play and older game and surprisingly it works with networking support across to a windows platform with no craziness, with one exception
[16:01] <Drakonan> the exception being i have to play in a window
[16:01] <nilsF13> nacc, I created a  personal.php file in /etc/phpmyadmin/conf.d/ with $cfg['Servers'][$i]['LoginCookieValidity'] = 3;
[16:01] <gerep> I have this in my ip route: 10.150.44.0/26 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.150.44.9 Can someone tell me how do I add this via ip route? It has some extra options
[16:02] <Drakonan> when i try full screen the video is messed up, it's only showing the top quarter of the directx part almost like the game res and the x res are off
[16:02] <ppf> Drakonan: have you tried alt+enter
[16:02] <ppf> alright  :)
[16:02] <nacc> nilsF13: right; i just tried using the UI to set the same (it's under settings) and it took effect immediately. trying to see where that got written :)
[16:02] <Drakonan> ppf: yeah so that's another question in itself how to do i "kill it" when i get in that situation without having to reboot the whole server
[16:03] <nilsF13> nacc, this personal.php file should be called by config.inc.php at the end => foreach (glob('/etc/phpmyadmin/conf.d/*.php') as $filename)
[16:03] <ppf> Drakonan: there are a couple of wine channels on irc, you might have more luck over there
[16:03] <Drakonan> says its invite only?
[16:04] <ducasse> !register | Drakonan
[16:04] <Drakonan> i mean it works just fine in a window but it's really why im here is there some kind of compilation of basic fundamentals that would help me learn some of that
[16:04] <nilsF13> nacc, what is UI (user interface ?), I read with UI, the setting is lost after login out, I read it was set up only for the current session
[16:04] <nacc> nilsF13: right, agreed
[16:04] <nacc> nilsF13: e.g., http://<ip>/phpmyadmin
[16:05] <katronix> Hi all, last night I manually installed a package via deb files, and now apt-get thinks there are a newer copy of the programs but when I ask it to install it, it says errors out because the installed copy is the same version as the new version. How can I fix this issue: http://pastebin.com/5Bht1NzN ?
[16:05] <FSoci> l
[16:05] <ducasse> !wine | Drakonan
[16:05] <Drakonan> it seems like every time i get started i get stuck half with a ui issue or something that seems so simple and its really a training issue you know
[16:05] <nilsF13> nacc, i do not understand your e.g.
[16:05] <FSoci> Can somebody recomend some programs to download to entertain me on vacations? thx
[16:05] <nilsF13> nacc, I am using http://127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin
[16:05] <nacc> nilsF13: it's running as a webservice, generally; so you can navigate to http://<ip>/phpmyadmin
[16:05] <nacc> nilsF13: yes
[16:06] <ppf> FSoci: vim
[16:06] <nacc> nilsF13: Settings -> Features -> "Login Cookie Validity"
[16:06] <Drakonan> ducasse, wine was just an example idc specifically just highlights my lack of understanding the basics i feel like (?) you should be able to fix most problems without needing to reboot nowadays i'd hope :)
[16:07] <nilsF13> nacc, yes, but I read this would be lost after login out, this settind looks like living only for the current session, according to what I read
[16:07] <ducasse> !manual | Drakonan maybe this will help
[16:07] <nacc> nilsF13: it survives logout/login here
[16:08] <nilsF13> nacc, yes I am wong, I tryed and the setting is still there
[16:08] <nacc> nilsF13: ah ha! it stores it in the db, of course
[16:08] <nacc> nilsF13: pma__userconfig table
[16:08] <nilsF13> nacc, ok, so I drop configuring files, and use the UI, many thanks
[16:09] <nacc> nilsF13: not sure why it doesn't pick it up from the config file, but I can look into it if you want; but seems like you have a workaround for now
[16:10] <nilsF13> nacc, yes I have a workaround now, I will come back if necessary, don't spend time looking to conf file
[16:11] <nacc> nilsF13: ok, good luck! :)
[16:11] <nilsF13> nacc, I found the setting in the database, table phpmyadmin => {"LoginCookieValidity":10,  I setted up 10 seconds, so it is stored, and will be kept if upgrade
[16:12] <nacc> nilsF13: yes, it seems that way; it is per-user rather than global
[16:12] <nilsF13> nacc, do you know what is the max for LoginCookieValidity ? integer ? 65635 ?
[16:12] <nilsF13> ok nacc
[16:12] <nilsF13> nacc, per user is fine for me
[16:13] <nilsF13> nacc, the max is 9223372036854775807 !
[16:13] <nacc> nilsF13: per the code, i think it just neesd to be a postivie integer
[16:14] <nacc> nilsF13: right, 2^63-1 i guess?
[16:14] <nilsF13> nacc, I filled with 999999999999999999999 and looked what was kept
[16:15] <nilsF13> ok nacc, 60*60*24*7 = 604800, enough for a week of work
[16:15] <nilsF13> nacc, thousand thanks for you help !
[16:15] <nilsF13> your*
[16:16] <tatertots> good morning everyone
[16:16] <nacc> nilsF13: np
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> good evening tatertots
[16:17] <nilsF13> nacc, you are right !, 2^63, that makes 8 bytes, right ?
[16:17] <nilsF13> nacc, all this is far away, at school in 1988
[16:18] <at3zhk> 10 -4
[16:20] <W0ndrC> has anyone here taken the LFCS exam?
[16:21] <mike-zal> quick question. if I check .xsession-errors, does it shows always fresh errors from current session login or also from the past (so now it's ok, but it shows some previous errors)?
[16:22] <tatertots> I've not taken LFCS but i've taken novell and redhat exams...oh and LPI stuff
[16:22] <Meowpancake> ？
[16:22] <`packy> i upgraded to 16.04, seems to be bogging me down some.... wasn't an issue before, have i peaked?
[16:22] <tatertots> are you planning to sit the LFCS exam W0ndrC?
[16:23] <dm_comp> Hi, I need help understanding this command "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | bzip2 > /media/usb/image.bz2" I would guess this wont pipe the 250GB hd into my 8GB memory before piping it to gzip2, correct?
[16:23] <W0ndrC> I am. I've been studying off and on for 6 months. Was wondering if anyone had any tips or adivce on areas to focus
[16:24] <joeblack> #pelican
[16:24] <tatertots> one of the guys i worked with took some LF exams, not that they were required but he ended up getting a job a LF as a writer
[16:25] <tatertots> the exam objectives should be published on their website
[16:25] <tatertots> make sure you are comfortable with all the published objectives and you should be fine
[16:25] <joeblack> wherr the fkc am I
[16:26] <joeblack> I'be been on drugs for the past 6 months and tinkering with linux...is that normal?
[16:26] <OerHeks> !ot | joeblack
[16:26] <joeblack> my combo is xanax+modanifil+
[16:26] <joeblack> and pregabalin
[16:26] <joeblack> !ot
[16:26] <joeblack> ???????????
[16:27] <OerHeks> joeblack, stop it, thanks.
[16:27] <joeblack> I don't understand
[16:27] <DJones> joeblack: This is Ubuntu support only, not medical details
[16:27] <joeblack> ai ai aiii buff sorry yes
[16:27] <DJones> If you have an ubuntu support question, please ask it, but keep general chat in other channels
[16:27] <joeblack> trimage is broken with 16.04.. :(
[16:28] <tatertots> the exam objectives are https://training.linuxfoundation.org/certification/lfcs in the domains and competencies section
[16:28] <joeblack> no, not trimage. phatch photo processor is broken
[16:28] <mike-zal> is .xsession-errors file always showung current errors or also past ones? can I delete it to see only the new ones (I assume file will respawn)
[16:29] <W0ndrC> I'm familiar with the objectives and I have run through the objectives several times. Obviously some of them are more common then otheres
[16:29] <OerHeks> mike-zal, yes, it respawns
[16:30] <W0ndrC> I'm fortunate in that I have a job that supports then exam
[16:30] <W0ndrC> *the
[16:30] <joeblack> ok seriously guys just ban me
[16:30] <joeblack> lick my hairy asshole fedoras, I'm on drugs
[16:30] <tatertots> yeah it always helps if your employer supports linux certs
[16:30] <mike-zal> thank OerHeks. so does it shows only newest stuff after respawn? I have one error there and when I google it, it shows an issue that I had in the past, so I'm not sure if what to think, hence my question if it shows new or past errors
[16:30] <tatertots> hell certs in general
[16:31] <tatertots> looks like a fun exam
[16:32] <OerHeks> i wonder what old stuff gets in that error log, mike-zal
[16:33] <mike-zal> OerHeks, not sure if I understood. nevermind, moved file to the trash and relogging to see what it shows now. thanks
[16:33] <whytrytofly> hello
[16:33] <whytrytofly> am i correct that i cannot use qupzilla qt5-webengine unter debian/ubuntu/etc...
[16:34] <mike-zal> OerHeks, it showed past error. now the new file don't show that error. thanks.
[16:34] <ioria> !info qupzilla
[16:34] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[16:35] <joelio> there are other steps in there that use httpRequest to talk to an API I wrote, seriosuly tempted to move rundeck behind that for what I need, just so it's a bit cleaner and versioned better. When they're in jobs (not an scm checkout step either) then it's down to versioning the job xml or using config management.. which is still a split set of repos to manage the same pipeline
[16:35] <whytrytofly> ubotto = a boit?
[16:35] <whytrytofly> bot
[16:35] <ikonia> it is a bot, yes
[16:36] <joelio> oops wrong chan, lol
[16:41] <`packy> i upgraded to 16.04, seems to be bogging me down some.... wasn't an issue before, have i peaked?
[16:42] <ikonia> what ??
[16:42] <ikonia> can you try to talk in clear english please
[16:42] <`packy> what part don't you understand....
[16:42] <ikonia> all of it
[16:44] <`packy> i upgraded to 16.04... brought up cheese and the video is jerky..... wasn't an issue at 14.04..... i7 processor 12 gigs of ram....   have i maxed out the horsepower of my pc with this upgrade?
[16:44] <Toxtlo> Hi, I want to completely reinstall ubuntu, how can I keep a list of all the packages installed and install them afterwards, so, cloning my whole system?
[16:44] <ikonia> `packy: ok - so you've upgraded to 16.04 and your video is jerky...
[16:44] <ikonia> thats the problem
[16:44] <tgm4883> And to be clear, his webcam video is jerky. Who knows if other video is jerky
[16:44] <`packy> and i had a system hang the other day...
[16:44] <ikonia> you will be nowhere near the limits of the machines resources
[16:45] <ikonia> it's more likley your video card/webcam is not configured properly
[16:45] <`packy> still fine tuning 16.04?
[16:45] <ikonia> what ?
[16:45] <adroit_machine> hi ikonia
[16:45] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[16:45] <`packy> hey this is the first time bluetooth worked ..... after the upgrade
[16:45] <ikonia> `packy: what has that got to do with anything ?
[16:45] <`packy> nevermind....
[16:45] <hasanin> hello, how can I use systemd to add a service as a dependency for a non current target ? , for example my current target is multi-user.target and I want to add httpd.service as a dependency for graphical.target ,
[16:46] <jatt> Toxtlo: dpkg --get-selections > list.txt
[16:46] <jatt> Toxtlo: dpkg --set-selections < list.txt
[16:46] <Toxtlo> copying my home folder after that will do it?
[16:47] <jatt> Toxtlo: apt-get dselect-upgrade -y
[16:49] <jatt> Toxtlo: no copying the home folder won't do it
[16:53] <ubuntu817> i have a simple question regarding bash commands. could someone help?
[16:53] <jatt> sure, but the true experts are at #bash
[16:54] <sara-> dd
[16:54] <sara-> hi
[16:54] <sara-> msfconsole
[16:54] <sara-> Could not find rake-11.1.2 in any of the sources
[16:54] <sara-> Run `bundle install` to install missing gems.
[16:55] <ubuntu817> jatt, its simple let me post the question
[16:56] <Bassem> i have HP EliteBook 8460p with fingerprint login ...dos ubuntu support that?
[16:56] <OerHeks> sara-, correct, there is no 11.1.2 http://rake.rubyforge.org/
[16:57] <ubuntu817> ive a file containing 3 columns as id:name:salary. I wish to display the highest salaried employee. but if there's more than 1 employee for the highest salary, display them too. I need to do this one go only using pipes through basic commands not involving awk sed stuff
[16:57] <ubuntu817> is it at all possible?
[16:57] <OerHeks> Bassem, check the lspci/lsusb  ID here https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[16:58] <ducasse> ubuntu817: why no awk/sed?
[16:58] <mcphail> ubuntu817: this isn't really the place for homework assignments
[16:58] <tgm4883> mcphail: +1
[16:59] <jatt> it's possible but why with bash? import the file to a local sqlite db and run a sql query that gets you the answer
[17:00] <tgm4883> jatt: because it's his homework
[17:00] <jatt> 😈
[17:00] <OerHeks> excluding awk and sed makes me back2school again
[17:00] <ioria> ubuntu817, an idea....  grep the numbers, sort the numbers , pick the highest and grep the name's  field ...
[17:01] <csst0111> is it possible to give /sdb1 more space by resizing/shrinking  ? http://imgur.com/zug7Bi7
[17:02] <csst0111> cause i have read this answer here ( http://askubuntu.com/a/126250/137076 ) and it says you need free space in front or after
[17:03] <notbot> anyone with the highest salaried question thing?
[17:03] <TurboKraken> !terminal
[17:03] <tgm4883> notbot: it was already answered
[17:03] <notbot> i got disconnected
[17:04] <notbot> could you please repost?
[17:04] <tgm4883> notbot: ioria> ubuntu817, an idea....  grep the numbers, sort the numbers , pick the highest and grep the name's  field ...
[17:04] <OerHeks> csst0111, highly unlikely by shrinking, and you would have to move whole sdb5 and its extended partition sdb2 to the end before merging the unallocated bytes to sdb1
[17:04] <tgm4883> notbot: that's the best answer you are going to get on a homework question
[17:05] <csst0111> OerHeks, so what do you propose ? is it possible to move sdb5 to the end ?
[17:06] <notbot> I came up with something like this sort -rn -t":" -k3 file | cut -d":" -f3 | head -n 1 > file2
[17:07] <OerHeks> csst0111, no, you need to expand the extended partition first to the end.
[17:07] <OerHeks> sdb5 is locked in sdb2
[17:08] <csst0111> oh right
[17:10] <viknesh> hi this is my hard drive partition http://imgur.com/a/3JXda , i want use 10 gb unallocated space for my linux partition (dev/sda9) when i right click my root partition and select Resize/Move , there is no option to increase the space
[17:10] <viknesh> to*
[17:11] <notbot_> got disconnected again
[17:11] <OerHeks> viknesh, you cannot alter partitions that are in use, use the live iso for this
[17:12] <viknesh> OerHeks: ok will do that , after i boot into live cd what should i be doing ?
[17:12] <notbot_> hello
[17:12] <ducasse> notbot: do your homework yourself. nobody here is going to do it for you.
[17:12] <OerHeks> viknesh, then you would be able to edit partition/size with your mouse
[17:12] <viknesh> OerHeks: so the resize/move option will allow me to increase the partition
[17:12] <notbot_> ducasse its not homework.. somethin that I queried to myself
[17:13] <OerHeks> viknesh, yes.
[17:13] <notbot_> Ive done it. But i need a way to maybe combine the two steps in one..
[17:13] <notbot_> tried but couldnt succeed..
[17:14] <Pici> notbot_: this channel is for people having problems with their Ubuntu installs. Not for bash programming help. #bash exists, but they will not take kindly to doing others homework for them either.
[17:14] <viknesh> OerHeks: so , just right clicking my root partition ans choosing resize/move would work ?
[17:14] <OerHeks> viknesh, yes, you have 43.04 gb free next to it
[17:15] <notbot_> Pici: ok ill go ask there but again its not a homework.. It just popped to me.. i cant think of a way to achieve what I want
[17:15] <viknesh> OerHeks: how come it will be 43 ? i just have 10 gb unallocated space
[17:15] <csst0111> so first I expand sdb2 to the end and then i shrink it from the beginning ?
[17:15] <ducasse> notbot_: riiiight.
[17:16] <pretodor> guys, is there anybody using Chromium/Chrome v.51 here?
[17:16] <OerHeks> viknesh, you have 2 pieces of unallocated space.
[17:16] <viknesh> OerHeks: oh i guess u mistook for 43 mb
[17:16] <OerHeks> oh, my bad, not gb .... oops
[17:17] <_adb> pretodor: yes
[17:17] <viknesh> OerHeks: is that i will be having only 43 mb next to it ,or 10 gb too ?
[17:17] <OerHeks> viknesh, i was wrong, you would have to move sda4 and sda5 first
[17:17] <OerHeks> that will give you 43 mb + 10 gb yes
[17:18] <viknesh> OerHeks: yeah , that's what i thought
[17:19] <pretodor> _adb: brilliant! Could you open Synaptic Package Manager and see if you also have available v.49? (The versions are listed in the package's "Properties")
[17:19] <viknesh> OerHeks: fine :) thanks for it :-D
[17:20] <_adb> pretodor: er... no. not using synaptic, but unsure why one would want to have both v49 and 51 or replace 51 with 49.
[17:20] <pretodor> _adb: the reason why I am asking you to do this is because I seem not to be able to switch to v.49 despite having it listed as an available version
[17:22] <pretodor> _adb: I am trying to downgrade to v.49 because there is a bug in v.51. More info here: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/Xh9GV7jNymo/InHwd7vsCwAJ
[17:23] <d1z> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu into an hp mini 210-4000, I've already prep'd a usb (as the laptop doesn't have a cdrom) with usb-creator with an ubuntu image, the process ended up succefully but when I stick the usb into the mini laptop and try to boot off it it doesn't work, the grub doesn't come up. What can I try in thiscase?
[17:24] <nacc> d1z: is your bios configured to boot from usb?
[17:24] <d1z> nacc yes
[17:25] <tatertots> dlz are you %100 sure you are instructing the computer to boot from USB and not the internal disk drive or cddrive?
[17:25] <tatertots> this is usually done by pressing a button during power on, you didn't mention pressing any key to enter the boot menu of the pc so i'll assume you skepped that step
[17:25] <d1z> tatertots: yes, quadruple checked. I've been installing linux distros off usb sticks for the better part of 8 years
[17:26] <tatertots> if you selected to boot from usb then you need to confirm your usb is actually bootable in a different computer
[17:26] <d1z> tatertots: it is, I already tried it on a separate laptop
[17:27] <d1z> I searched for information regarding touchy hp annoyances and found something: http://askubuntu.com/questions/244261/how-do-i-get-my-hp-laptop-to-boot-into-grub-from-my-new-efi-file
[17:27] <_adb> d1z: have you booted other usbsticks to this laptop before? i'm curious if the laptop bios wants to treat the usb more like a hard drive than a usb
[17:27] <mike-zal> then you need to tinker bios settings. sometimes it can be tricky. I also had some computers where I thought I have usb enabled but they were not seen by the bios, at least not in the place I was looking..
[17:27] <d1z> but that seems to be related to aninstallation that has already happened. I mean, in that scenario the guy was capable of booting the image, installing it, but then had problems having the machine boot the newly installed system
[17:28] <tatertots> once you've verified usb functions on a different machine, has the computer in question ever in it's history been able to boot any 'other' usb bootable media?
[17:28] <d1z> tatertots: yes. The machine comes with windows 7, and my girlfriends' brother was capable of installing windows 10 on it from a usb stick
[17:29] <mike-zal> sometimes usb is treated in BIOS like a HDD, so one must set it and then choose USB from HDD launching sequence...
[17:29] <d1z> the reason Im trying to install ubuntu on it is because windows 10 is way overkill for this little thing, it's like a netbook. It's extremely slow on it
[17:29] <tatertots> try instructing the computer to boot the usb in the bios boot order
[17:29] <mike-zal> d1z, see my previous comment, it may be the reason why you don't see usb in bios
[17:31] <_adb> d1z: i've had to change the "usb emulation mode" from "auto" to "hard disk" in bios before, then the usb would show up as a hard drive in the boot menu
[17:32] <g0r1774> hey
[17:32] <d1z> this is a very limited bios, it doesn't have anything of the sort
[17:32] <d1z> mike-zal, the boot sequence is fine
[17:32] <d1z> usb harddisk up front
[17:33] <d1z> when I stick the usb in it, the machine doesn't boot off the harddrive (windows10), it just stays there as if it's reading the usb but it never actually boots from it
[17:33] <mike-zal> d1z, I mean, that sometimes there are levels of boot sequences and there is sequence within a sequence... that is why I also had once issue to find usb.
[17:33] <mike-zal> so basically I had to choose hard drive and then find settings for hard drive sequence and there I found usb.
[17:34] <mike-zal> so it wasn't so obvious as usually
[17:34] <tatertots> you should try known good usb....saying that somebody's boyfriends brother or sister did it once is good and all but not as good as validating in real time during trouble shooting
[17:35] <d1z> tatertots: windows 10 got in this laptop through usb, no other way
[17:35] <d1z> and this usb does boot in my other machine
[17:35] <tatertots> maybe your usb is not proper but since you're trying the same one over and over you'll never be revealed to you
[17:36] <tatertots> no other way other than usb to get this originally win8 system to win10?...they couldn't have just downloaded the update to win10?
[17:36] <d1z> no
[17:37] <d1z> it's not like I'm imagining what he did or didn't
[17:37] <d1z> he told me
[17:37] <d1z> I know him, been knowing him for 5 years
[17:37] <mike-zal> d1z, did you check the usb on another computer?
[17:37] <d1z> mike-zal: yes
[17:37] <d1z> it did boot, that's why I refuse to believe the 'not proper' usb theory
[17:38] <tatertots> so he's tried a known good computer with the usb
[17:38] <mike-zal> so when it was bootable on other computer, it has to be on the one you want. need to go through bios settings one by one. and I assume secure boot is disabled?
[17:38] <mike-zal> also some bios are set for windows so you need to choose "different system".
[17:39] <tatertots> now try a known good bootable usb in the hp to validate it....if you don't have the means to do that type of testing that's understandable
[17:39] <tatertots> do the best you can with what you have at your disposal
[17:39] <d1z> mike-zal: there is no uefi settings related settings in the bios. Specially no secure boot on/off setting
[17:40] <d1z> even though I'm 100% sure this bios is uefi capable, and secure mode is enabled as I don't believe you can even install windows10 on a machine with secure boot mode off
[17:40] <mike-zal> d1z, just saying that sometimes we don't see things in front of our eyes. just go one by one through all bios menus and maybe you will find something that will help you.
[17:41] <d1z> mike-zal: I know it's frustrating to read me. Maybe it is because I am frustrated myself, but if you were to look a picture of this bios, you'd know there isn't much to try here
[17:41] <mike-zal> d1z, if win10 was updated from win7 that doesn't used it, then it can be installed
[17:41] <d1z> besides changing the boot sequence, there is no other relevant option in the bios
[17:41] <d1z> mike-zal: I've previously stated that windows 10 was installed using a usb stick
[17:41] <tatertots> have you looked at the computers documentation to see what the manufacture method of booting usb on the system in question?
[17:42] <mike-zal> d1z, I had the same situation. I looked through menus and nothing. I was so irritated but then I just went into very detailed search and found it finally.
[17:42] <mike-zal> and also bios menus were sparse so I also thought, that's not possible, I see everything
[17:42] <_adb> d1z: might be dumb, but have you tried a different usb port?
[17:43] <d1z> _adb: yes, I already tried all of them
[17:43] <madsj> I may have done something terrible, and made a typo in my .bashrc, so now I can't login (I'm currently using the guest user)
[17:43] <tatertots> but you haven't tried known good usb media?..........that's the only thing you have to rule out
[17:44] <mike-zal> d1z, ah, one more thing. sometimes you need to set something in bios (like enablin boot from usb) and then reboot it to see the new options. also some secure boot and other weird shit can be hidden if you won't change some obscure setting
[17:44] <madsj> both in the display manager and in tty (there's a message there, but it disappears to quickly for me to notice)
[17:44] <tatertots> and it's hanging so low right in front of you to rule out
[17:44] <tatertots> and would possibly reveal so much
[17:45] <tatertots> but let's try everything else under the sun except try a known good usb device though...let's dance and skip all around that
[17:45] <mike-zal> d1z, also I'm not sure, but there may be a way to start ubuntu install from windows. it is possible to start windows install from linux so maybe the other way around... but I'm not sure.
[17:45] <_adb> madsj: can you, as the guest user, run something like
[17:45] <_adb> su -c 'mv /home/madsj/.bashrc{,.broken}' madsj
[17:45] <_adb> (replace madsj with your actual username)
[17:46] <d1z> mike-zal: yes it was possible, I remember the ubuntu iso having some sort of autorun that could be exec'd from windows and in the next reboot it would boot the iso and not windows
[17:46] <d1z> maybe I should try that from windows 10 (the only problem is windows 10 in this machine is such a pain in the ass to handle, it's overwhelmingly borderline unusably slow)
[17:47] <madsj> _adb: I noticed I could login in with ssh, so the error is somewhere else
[17:47] <madsj> ssh X@localhost
[17:47] <mike-zal> d1z, first check all possible bios settings and restart if you change anything to see if something showed up
[17:48] <mike-zal> d1z, also, if the computer is very weak, I can recommend lubuntu version.
[17:49] <jnewt> can't seem to get ubuntu to install on a little mini itx computer I bought.  everytime the install starts (from usb stick), i either get a garbled looking terminal, or if it gets to the graphics part, the screel looks all messed up / garbled and then the pc is rebooted.
[17:49] <d1z> mike-zal: I've already tried that. Trust me it's a lost cause. If you could see how limited this bios is then you'd understand my point, but regardless, I've already tried most options
[17:49] <subsume> how can I make a USB persistent install of ubuntu from OSX?
[17:49] <subsume> is it possible?
[17:51] <jnewt> could it be that the install drive is labeled as "UEFI: USB2.0 USB Flash Drive" in the BIOS?
[17:51] <ducasse> d1z: if i'm not mistaken the windows installer is 'wubi', which is broken and no longer works.
[17:53] <tatertots> dlz if you're admitting by your own words that you've tried EVERYTHING and ruled everything out (except a known good usb device)
[17:54] <mike-zal> d1z, walk away from it for a while, cool down and you will find solution eventually. I also had many momenths where I thought "no way" but then I finally found it
[17:55] <mike-zal> sometimes trying too hard doesn't work ;)
[17:57] <tatertots> jnewt does it only fail at the point of installation?...meaning you can use the live environment to your hearts content?
[17:58] <tatertots> your words were "every time the install starts" so that's why i'm asking jnewt
[17:58] <jnewt> tatertots, no, it fails if i try to use the live as well. the install usually fails when it asks me if i want to install 3rd party drivers (regardless of whether i choose yes or no).
[17:59] <fox__> hello
[18:01] <tatertots> jnewt a lot of details you give are about things that happen "during installation"
[18:02] <tatertots> have you clicked to "try ubuntu"
[18:02] <jnewt> tatertots: because it makes it further installing than running live.  when i chose live, it immediately garbles the screen.  there's not much to say about that
[18:04] <riqj> hello everyone, I've been running the upgrade from 14.04. to 16.04.1. and I selected lock screen, as I thought it would be possible to do, since the screen was already locked by system a short while ago during this upgrade.but then the login screen froze, with typing bar appearing frozen, too, in the password entry cell. and after a few minutes the screen went dark, with wifi and bluetooth lights still blinking, but no movement in the hdd light.
[18:04] <tatertots> jnewt have you tried to boot your usb in another computer?
[18:05] <riqj> my screen is black like when the machine is turned off, but the network light blinks!!!?
[18:05] <tatertots> riqj laptop or desktop?
[18:06] <riqj> tatertots, laptop
[18:07] <tatertots> sounds like you're describing a system freeze/hang/lockup during a operating system upgrade riqj
[18:08] <tatertots> a situation like that might put the user in a situation where the user has to power cycle/hard restart the computer
[18:09] <riqj> tatertots, yes, I wanted to lock the screen as I would be temporarily away during the upgrade. and I thought it'd be harmless as the system itself locked me out a short while ago during this same upgrade.
[18:09] <riqj> and I could log back in
[18:09] <riqj> and also the Z light is on, too, which indicates that the system is on (thinkpad)
[18:10] <riqj> just the screen is black as if turned off, as I said
[18:10] <purplefool> has anyone every tried to install ubuntu on a odys winpad 10 2in1 system?
[18:10] <tatertots> after the user possibly manually restarts the computer after a situation like this, they might have to again initiate the upgrade that was interrupted
[18:10] <jnewt> tatertots: trying in my laptop right now, seems to work fine
[18:11] <riqj> tatertots, I'd be all right if the upgrade just needed to be re-initiated, though it was already at the install stage. but I hope it didn't cause the grub / os to break.
[18:11] <tatertots> i hope it didn't cause anything to break also
[18:12] <boot13> A PHP developer is yelling at me, insisting that running an up to date Ubuntu version of PHP 5.3 (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.24) is insecure. He insists that because PHP 5.3 is no longer officially supported, it can't be secure. But 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.24 has had all relevant security fixes applied. Opinions?
[18:12] <OerHeks> purplefool, when i read this suse post, it is not worth it. https://thinksilicon.de/74/HowTo-openSUSE-13-2-auf-Odys-Winpad-V10-installieren.html
[18:13] <subsume> i see my usb device using lsusb but i can't figure out how to mount it
[18:13] <riqj> tatertots, or would it maybe running the upgrade at the background, so that if I leave it so, maybe it resumes normal state once upgrade is done - though it used to require confirmation before removing files, if I remember right..so completion may not be possible?
[18:14] <jnewt> tatertots: only thing i can think is to try and find some other OS to install on the computer to verify hardware is fine, but i don't really have anything available.  would it be worth trying a different linux flavor?
[18:14] <tatertots> boot13 if you're in a professional environment with a PHP devel management will sort that out shortly
[18:14] <riqj> but on the other hand, hdd light is not blinking at all..cant make sense out of this
[18:14] <madsj> _adb: basically, be careful with /etc/security/limits.conf :-)
[18:14] <purplefool> OerHeks, thx for the reply. read that too but was hoping someone had tried it or had an idea. son's laptop from stupid brother-in-law and it is totally worthless with present os.
[18:15] <boot13> tatertots: how will they do that?
[18:15] <OerHeks> boot13, follow that PHP developer.
[18:15] <riqj> hdd light did blink..but does so rarely
[18:15] <tobias33> how can i change the channel to german help?
[18:16] <riqj> oh gosh..no tips to get me out of here?
[18:16] <Pici> tobias33: type /join #ubuntu-de
[18:16] <tatertots> management would know the corp policy about if you should be maintaining a environment for dev's that is best for their work
[18:16] <subsume> boot13: is it a problem to just update php
[18:16] <riqj> I mean out of this situation
[18:16] <tobias33> thx
[18:16] <subsume> that was released in feb 2012
[18:16] <subsume> its kinda old i guess
[18:17] <tatertots> or if the dev should work according to and within a system spec that's a part of the corporate policies
[18:17] <purplefool> riqj, my experience with a hdd that doesn't blink often is either the connection or the thing is dead/dying.
[18:17] <tatertots> either way let management sort it out
[18:18] <riqj> purplefool, thankfully it's blinking, though rarely. I wish the anomaly to be limited to the upgrade.
[18:19] <boot13> subsume: there's no compelling reason to upgrade other than this guy's opinion. I prefer to stay with the packages provided by Ubuntu for the release we're running, 12.04.5 LTS.
[18:19] <subsume> boot13: that's an ancient release that's been out of life for a long time
[18:20] <riqj> what would happen if I hard-shut the computer in this state?
[18:20] <boot13> subsume: 12.04.5 is supported until April 2017.
[18:20] <OerHeks> boot13, 'there's no compelling reason to upgrade" is just your opinion.
[18:20] <subsume> boot13: oh, right
[18:20] <boot13> OerHecks: I'm looking for evidence.
[18:21] <subsume> Well he's correct that your version of PHP is EOL
[18:21] <_adb> madsj: haha, yea, that'd help. is it fixed then?
[18:21] <subsume> boot13: i will say that ubuntu around 12.XX was kinda known for shipping with really old versions of things
[18:21] <tatertots> if that version of PHP is EOL the question becomes how does your company or organization plan to deal with that fact
[18:22] <tatertots> how do you plan to deal with ubuntu 12.04 and have you made steps or a plan.? if none of this has taken place then you're probably in a go with the folow type setting
[18:23] <tatertots> flow
[18:23] <OerHeks> boot13, oh, now from opinion to evidence .. how sad.
[18:23] <boot13> tatertots: which is exactly what we're looking at now. Just trying to gather information. If PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.24 isn't secure, why is it still being offered and maintained?
[18:23] <subsume> boot13: the underlying system is being maintained but i don't think that means they vouch for every included package, i could be wrong about that
[18:23] <subsume> what version of python comes with 12.04 ?
[18:24] <subsume> looks like 2.7.3 which is pretty old, i would be kinda pissed but its not a deal breaker i guess
[18:24] <boot13> OerHeks: what are you talking about? The dev is telling me something without backing it up. So it's his opinion. I disagree, but it's only my opinion. I'm looking for evidence. What don't you understand?
[18:24] <subsume> boot13: it isn't his opinion that the version of PHP is EOL
[18:25] <subsume> but then again getting a more modern version of PHP on a 12.04 box is kind of a pain, too
[18:25] <subsume> (potentially)
[18:25] <tatertots> your management has their work cut out for them, they better get busy
[18:25] <riqj> ok, I restarted and it switched from normal boot to a screen showing operations line by line, and it remained at a halt halfway into the display for the last two minutes.
[18:25] <boot13> subsume: yes, it's EOL as far as the core PHP devs are concerned, but it's still being maintained by Ubuntu.
[18:26] <riqj> the last line is '[OK] Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes.'
[18:26] <subsume> boot13: that seems like its a different conversation, maybe you should go to #php and ask them what critical fixes have landed since 2012
[18:26] <subsume> ubuntu package maintainers aren't really the people to ask
[18:27] <tgm4883> boot13: PHP is in the universe repository, which isn't officially supportd
[18:27] <boot13> subsume: it's all documented: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.23
[18:27] <subsume> so that's your evidence i guess?
[18:28] <madsj> _adb: yes, I commented the line, and now I can login. A friend posted a photo with a fork bomb, and I was "dumb" and typed it in, and noticed that Ubuntu by default doesn't guard against such things.
[18:28] <boot13> subsume: nope. Just saying that the security fixes in PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.24 are documented.
[18:28] <_adb> :(){ :|:& };: <-- my favorite
[18:28] <_adb> (don't run that)
[18:28] <tgm4883> !danger
[18:29] <OerHeks> _adb, childish, as you know *not * to post this
[18:29] <tgm4883> _adb: don't post that here
[18:29] <subsume> boot13: so what were you looking for in the way of evidence? go through those releases and see if anything tickles your fancy i guess. that sadly leads back to the realm of opinion in terms of prioritizing what's worth upgrading to and what's not
[18:29] <madsj> _adb: that was the done; a command not doing anything slowed down the computer. I also noticed that yes(1) hogs a lot of resources
[18:30] <_adb> sorry... figured in context with "fork bomb" beforehand and saying "don't run that" immediately after it would be in subject... :-/
[18:30] <madsj> tgm4883: cut the guy some slack ;-)
[18:30] <subsume> boot13: you are seeing as some kind of evidence that "oh, this version of PHP ships with an old but supported version of ubuntu, therefore its fine to use" i think that's a pretty strict way of thinking. the version of redis in that package, for example, is laughably old
[18:30] <Toxtlo> Hi, when reinstalling ubuntu and wanna use full disk encryption, can I manually choose partitions, like root and home partition?
[18:30] <boot13> subsume: 'old' doesn't necessarilty mean 'insecure'.
[18:30] <tgm4883> _adb: nope, there are enough new users (especially in this chat) that may run that to see what it does
[18:31] <peb7268> Hi, can anyone point me in the right direction w this bash script. Getting an unexpected fi error: http://pastebin.com/8wtvLJD9
[18:31] <OerHeks> boot13, why don't you have that discussion with your PHP developer?
[18:31] <subsume> boot13: right, so like i said, go ask #php if there were any useful security releases in the last 4 years :P
[18:31] <riqj> I switched to console. at the top of the terminal, this error message appeared: 'E:Error: BrokenCount > Orun-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available exited with return code 255'  .... could you please help me know how I can fix this broken state?
[18:31] <boot13> subsume: I'm looking for some kind of consensus, or specific examples of security issues in PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.24. Currently it seems like it's all opinion.
[18:31] <Symmetria> Hi All, I'm trying to rebuild bind with a specific config option, but when I do the following, it tells me that --enable-threads is an invalid flag, this is what I tried:
[18:32] <Symmetria> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="--enable-threads" fakeroot debian/rules binary
[18:32] <Symmetria> what am I missing here, because configure DOES have a --enable-threads option
[18:32] <boot13> subsume: I don't need to ask. I know there were, and I know all relevant ones are in PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.24.
[18:32] <riqj> with -f install or with dpkg ?
[18:33] <subsume> all of them were in one release?
[18:33] <boot13> OerHeks: the conversation went nowhere.
[18:34] <riqj> ok, I selected -f install. now the install stared
[18:34] <riqj> started
[18:34] <subsume> i'm glad you aren't my sysadmin :P
[18:34] <boot13> subsume: no.
[18:34] <subsume> "just use 12.04 and everything that comes with it out of the bag, its fine" O_o
[18:34] <riqj> my question is, will -f install solve the broken state, once completed?
[18:35] <riqj> or will I need to run an additional command=
[18:35] <riqj> ?
[18:35] <jnewt>  tried the iso on a virtualbox install, same result as on the computer.  seems to only work on my laptop.
[18:35] <boot13> subsume: I don't understand why you feel it necessary to insult me for asking questions.
[18:35] <subsume> boot13: its not an insult, i literally am glad that you aren't my sysadmin because it would quickly degrade into being a non-starter. there's simply no way i'd develop in a 4 year old version of python or an archaic version of redis, etc etc
[18:35] <madsj> it reminds me that an old boss of mine had an innocent packed data perl-command in his signature; when you ran it, it said "I knew you'd do that"
[18:36] <tgm4883> lets stay civil now
[18:36] <boot13> subsume: I totally understand that as a developer you don't want to work with old versions of PHP. But this is about SECURITY.
[18:36] <sypher> PHP 5.4 is EOL. Why the hell would you develop in PHP 5.3?
[18:37] <sypher> boot13: Simple. 5.3 will never receive security updates from upstream. Ever.
[18:37] <tgm4883> boot13: sorry I'm not really following, can you restate your question?
[18:37] <subsume> he's saying that the underlying system happens to package it therefore its probably fine
[18:37] <subsume> since 12.04 LTS still ships with it
[18:37] <boot13> sypher: can you explain what that means?
[18:37] <pa> is it possible to reduce the icon size in unity dash?
[18:38] <sypher> boot13: That means that if any vulnerabilities are discovered in php 5.3, you'll be told "sucks to be you, nerd. Use a supported version." It's been that way for some time.
[18:38] <subsume> far be it from me to side with a PHP developer :P
[18:38] <sypher> boot13: http://php.net/eol.php
[18:38] <boot13> sypher: and yet the Ubuntu package is getting security updates.
[18:38] <sypher> 5.3 has been EOL for almost two years.
[18:38] <tatertots> riqj yes you're on the right track
[18:38] <tgm4883> boot13: what is the question?
[18:39] <subsume> oh he's kinda right
[18:39] <subsume> the latest ubuntu 5.3 seems to have updates as of 2016
[18:39] <boot13> tgm4883: is it inherently insecure to run older versions of PHP (eg. 5.3) even if the Ubuntu packages are getting up to date security fixes.
[18:40] <sypher> Yes, he IS correct in that SOME vulnerabilities are addressed by Canonical.
[18:40] <riqj> tatertots, yes, things seem to flow..do I need to use another command, like dpkg, after the current install?
[18:40] <bigpic> has anyone bumped into a permissions error when trying to initialize a new mysql install into a custom data dir?
[18:40] <bigpic> root@db2:/# ls -la | grep storage2 && mysqld --initialize --user=mysql
[18:40] <bigpic> drwxr-xr-x   2 mysql mysql  4096 Aug  4 14:23 storage2
[18:40] <bigpic> mysqld: Can't create directory '/storage2/mysql/' (Errcode: 13 - Permission denied)
[18:40] <bigpic> I’m getting a perms error
[18:40] <sypher> boot13: And those security updates end in eight months, by the way.
[18:40] <bigpic> which doesn’t make sense if you look at the above
[18:40] <ikonia> bigpic: fix the permissions so mysql can write to them
[18:40] <boot13> sypher: I'm aware of that.
[18:41] <tgm4883> boot13: no
[18:41] <derwood2> Heya Folks, Would anyone be interested to help me out here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2332842
[18:41] <bigpic> ikonia: if you look at the output above mysql owns that director
[18:41] <ikonia> derwood2: just ask your question
[18:41] <bigpic> +y
[18:41] <sypher> boot13: Then you already have the data in front of you that tells anyone sane that this is a bad idea.
[18:41] <ikonia> bigpic: touch a file in there
[18:41] <rootsandculture> hi
[18:41] <boot13> tgm4883: THANK YOU for answering my question.
[18:42] <boot13> sypher: what data is that?
[18:42] <bigpic> creating a few had no impact
[18:42] <ikonia> bigpic: creating a few what ?
[18:42] <rootsandculture> iI can't burn BD (blu-ray) in brasero, does someone knows if is it possible? Does someone sucesfully burned a BD25 or BD50gb?
[18:42] <sypher> boot13: The data that you've been consistently ignoring because it doesn't fit your predetermined opinion. Have fun.
[18:42] <tgm4883> sypher: there's nothing wrong with running 12.04 and php 5.3 and staying up to date via apt
[18:42] <ikonia> bigpic: please pastebin the output of ls -la /storage2
[18:43] <jec> Hello??
[18:43] <subsume> "I'm looking for consensus, but thanks for the person who vaguely confirmed my side in an office debate"
[18:43] <subsume> sounds like a great place to work
[18:43] <sypher> subsume: right?
[18:43] <jec> Is there anyone available that can assist me with a problem I'm having with caja??
[18:43] <boot13> subsume: I thanked him because he asnwered my question, unlike what you've been doing.
[18:43] <subsume> i love having debates with my sysadmin about staying on 12.04 for as long as possible
[18:45] <aFeijo> hello friends. I have a problem with my vmware workstation 12. I'm running Ubuntu as guest, I installed the vmware tools many times from diferent ways like I found on ubuntu forums but no joy! The screen wont autofit, nor copy/paste or drag files works!!! :(
[18:45] <boot13> subsume: thanks for being so helpful. This is why I love IRC.
[18:45] <jec> Is there a queue for help? if so how do I get in there?
[18:46] <subsume> don't ask to ask, just ask jec, helicopters will not be deployed and attendants are not standing by
[18:46] <aFeijo> vmware tools worked fine until I upgraded to ubuntu 16.04
[18:46] <tgm4883> Well this is all starting to get way out of the support realm, but sure, here we go. There's nothing inheritedly insecure with using 12.04 and PHP5.3 since security fixes are being backported. You can see what security fixes have happened for a release by subscribing/browsing the USN. For example, here are 25 security fixes that happened to PHP this month
[18:46] <tgm4883> for 12.04 http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3045-1/
[18:46] <jec> OK, thanks...I have Ubuntu Mate installed and i'm irritated because caja looks like something from the 80's
[18:46] <derwood2> Just searching for anyone that would be willing to help me out here, I'm willing to offer £10GBP per hour until it's fixed as well, while making a donation to th ubuntu community too :D
[18:46] <ikonia> derwood2: just ask the question
[18:46] <ikonia> don't need money - but do need the question
[18:47] <jec> how can I get caja to match the theme??
[18:47] <sypher> subsume: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/php5.html
[18:47] <subsume> derwood2: i read your question and quite frankly it doesn't sound like anything specific anyone could help you with. if you are looking for consultants i guess that's another matter, i hope someone replies
[18:47] <bigpic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22209105/
[18:47] <ikonia> bigpic: what is that the output of
[18:48] <bigpic> storage2
[18:48] <bigpic> root@db2:/# ls -la storage2 | pastebinit
[18:48] <subsume> sypher: yeah i can't really imagine php (of all languages) is something you'd want out of date for long
[18:48] <ikonia> bigpic: why is there no mysql directory there
[18:48] <bigpic> mysqld —initialize creates the directory
[18:48] <bigpic> If fact it will bomb if the directory already exists
[18:48] <bigpic> that is specifically the issue
[18:49] <bigpic> it’s complaining that there’s a perms problem creating the directory when there’s clearly no perms issue
[18:49] <ikonia> why are you doing initialize
[18:49] <subsume> tgm4883: what does "inherently insecure" mean?
[18:49] <ikonia> it's going to be apparmor
[18:49] <ikonia> is this an ubuntu server install
[18:49] <bigpic> yes
[18:49] <ikonia> so it will be apparmour blocking you
 & <subsume> Cheers for the help, I'm just following what the ubuntu pages list and what works with one install down not work in the other and vice versa. Someone must have a complete running setup of either 14.4 or 16.4 LTS with OpenStack, Autopilot and Juju, surely :(
[18:49] <bigpic> gay
[18:50] <tgm4883> subsume: it's not just insecure because it's old.
[18:50] <ikonia> derwood2: what is the actual question
[18:50] <subsume> tgm4883: but exploits are a factor that is in motion and changing every day, how can you really claim that?
[18:50] <bigpic> really
[18:50] <bigpic> the dir /storage is a dedicated raid disk
[18:51] <tgm4883> subsume: if that's your stance, then PHP7 in xenial is insecure
[18:51] <yellabs-r2> hello
[18:51] <yellabs-r2> when i use zenity it spits out an error, Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
[18:51] <subsume> tgm4883: yes, but inherently more secure than 5.3 on exactly the basis that it is not as old
[18:51] <yellabs-r2> any tips are welcome
[18:52] <subsume> tgm4883: (to say nothing of introduced exploits which is a whole other beast)
[18:52] <tgm4883> subsume: that is based on the assumption that security fixes aren't backported to older versions, which is false
[18:52] <yellabs-r2> zenity --info , normal use
[18:52] <subsume> tgm4883: some seem to be but not all
 Firstly installing 14.4LTS server and then installing maas 1.9 goes okay and it seems OpenStack is installed correctly and I assume Juju, but I cannot find a single node, I can also eneter a valid SSH key too but cannot add more API keys.. Now verses 16.4LTS, I can find all nodes without any hassle what-so-ever but Openstack never works and I cannot find out about Juju either from there.. I also cannot add another SSH key b
[18:52] <Symmetria> yay, bind seems to be rebuilding properly, hopefully after the compile tiem tweaks Ive added it will be able to handle my load otherwise its time to find a new dns server for my recursives
[18:53] <Symmetria> bind dies, horribly, once you hit serious load
[18:53] <fungo> Hi
[18:53] <ikonia> derwood2: so that is going to take time to work through, as that is not a two minute setup
So the parts that worked in either of the fresh installs, do not work in the other, if I got all the parts that did work and had them all inside one install, everything would be working fine. thanks for taking the time too :D
[18:54] <ikonia> derwood2: I'll ask the obvious stuff - what do th elogs for each app and the genric syslog show
Ideally I would like 16.4LTS with MaaS 2.0, OpenStack, Juju and Autopilot, how about if I do a complete fresh install and I could show you whatever logs you wish.. But I'm not sure if OpenStack and Juju even work with 16.4LTS proper.
[18:56] <ikonia> openstack and juju should
 I also have the provided .ISO files burned from ubuntu for both 14.4LTS and 16.4LTS that they offer out, could there be anywhere that maybe their is some kind of updated .iso files that are not present on offer? Just curious there really.
[18:58] <ikonia> derwood2: don't need anythig update
[18:59] <derwood2> okie :D
[18:59] <ikonia> install 16.04 - deal with one component at a time and work it through
[18:59] <OiPenguin> Is anyone able to help? I've got major problems after reinnstalling Ubuntu on a HP Spectre XT. During install is gives me this error: "grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into / target/. Without the GRUB boot loader the installed system will no boot." Which indeed is true.
[18:59] <tables> how do i make a package request?
[18:59] <OiPenguin> I've tried boot-repair, altering settings in bios etc. All to no avail :-(
[18:59] <aFeijo> hello friends. I have a problem with my vmware workstation 12. I'm running Ubuntu as guest, I installed the vmware tools many times from diferent ways like I found on ubuntu forums but no joy! The screen wont autofit, nor copy/paste or drag files works!!! :(
You don't mind if I hang around and get cracking installing a fresh 16.4LTS ubuntu server install and ask some questions in a while do you :D
[19:00] <ikonia> derwood2: I'll be in and out
[19:00] <ppf> i'm sharing my cups printers via samba. any idea how to configure the windows machines to use a proper samba username?
[19:00] <ikonia> there are good people in here who will also help you
[19:00] <ppf> or, more appropriately, how to make samba force it to?
 Thanks very much :D Lovely to meet you btw :D
[19:02] <tatertots> OiPenguin specifically which BIOS settings did you alter? and what state are those settings in right now?
[19:02] <mike-zal> OiPenguin, you need to enable copy/paste in VB settings. also you need to add your user to vbox group, then it will work (reboot VB before changing settings)
[19:03] <jnewt> ok, tried to install 16.04 in virtualbox, got scrambled screen.  tried running live, same thing.  tried lubuntu 16.04, same thing on both computer and virtualbox.  what's the deal here?
[19:04] <ppf> maybe your image is broken?
[19:04] <ppf> checked the checksums?
[19:04] <mike-zal> some driver issue probably
[19:04] <mike-zal> or that, corrupted iso file
[19:04] <OiPenguin> tatertots: My settings are according to this instructions:
[19:04] <tatertots> bad iso file
[19:04] <OiPenguin> tatertots: n FAT32 EFI system partition
[19:04] <jnewt> runs fine on my work laptop (live).
[19:04] <OiPenguin> tatertots: http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/SpectreXT.html
[19:05] <mike-zal> have to reboot, brb
[19:05] <test_> hi
[19:05] <OiPenguin> mike-zal: How do I enable copy/paste in VB (what is VB?) settings?
[19:05] <jnewt> ppf: it runs on my work laptop.  it should run on either my computer or virtualbox, right?
[19:06] <ppf> not if, e.g., your graphics card is broken
[19:07] <jnewt> ppf: on the desktop i'm running virtualbox, i have a brand new nvidia quadro graphics card.  i have no idea what's on the other little thing.  the dell laptop is an nvidia quadro as well (although a bit older)
[19:11] <jnewt> ok, lubuntu seems to be thinking about installing now.  not my first choice, but whatever.
[19:12] <OiPenguin> tatertots: I've also made a small fat32-partition with a live usb-stick and gpartede. Still not able to install.
[19:15] <Luka00> Hello people what is this error: Ubuntu has experienced an internal error.ExecutablePath /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory...
[19:15] <Luka00> ...
[19:16] <Luka00> It appeared just started my laptop
[19:17] <jnewt> nope, won't install ("an error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system. Kernel package: 'linux-generic'.  ugh.
[19:22] <tamarin> I have "auto wlan0" and "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" but when I ifdown/up or reboot I don't get an ipv4 address.  Any hints?
[19:23] <ioria> tamarin, where do you have it ? /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:24] <tamarin> ioria: Yea.  Both of those settings are in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:24] <ioria> tamarin,  can you paste   ip a
[19:25] <tamarin> https://bpaste.net/show/e0fa091da98d that's what it looks like (with ssid and psk cut out).  I can "dhclient wlan0" and it works fine, but I need it to come up with an ipv4 address on-boot.
[19:26] <ioria> tamarin,  that's not ip a
[19:26] <tamarin> oh, I misunderstand.
[19:26] <tamarin> ioria: https://bpaste.net/show/7e9e68843dd3
[19:27] <robbbbb> js
[19:27] <robbbbb> oops
[19:28] <ioria> tamarin,  ever worked that setting ?
[19:28] <tamarin> ioria: Not automatically.  I always have to "dhclient wlan0" manually.
[19:29] <ioria> tamarin,  have you tried using wpa_supplicant ?
[19:29] <ioria> tamarin,  pre-up wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B   ( int interfaces file, i mean)
[19:30] <badweather1> Hello, I'm having an issue with mounting a smb share. I just get "d????????? ? ? ? ?            ? " where all the permissions should be listed. It's guest enabled share. and I can access it fine for windows.
[19:30] <ioria> tamarin,  inside wpa_supplicant.conf you set ssid and psk
[19:31] <tamarin> ioria: I didn't.
[19:32] <ioria> tamarin,  wpa_supplicant.conf  is like that : network={ssid="  name "  psk="password " key_mgmt=WPA-PSK  proto=WPA }
[19:32] <badweather1> I recently added "unix extensions = no", "follow symlinks = yes", and "wide links = yes" to the host machine's config, as I have a symlinked folder within there that need to be accessed
[19:33] <badweather1> This allowed windows to see the symlink folder, but my fstab mount on another linux machine cannot access the share anymore
[19:36] <finn_gk> Hello. It seems, there is no package "mingw32" in Xenial.
[19:37] <OerHeks> !find mingw32
[19:37] <tamarin> ioria: I should add the same settings to wpa_supplicant?  I thought the wpa-ssid, etc in interfaces was the same.
[19:38] <finn_gk> That is the last one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/trusty/mingw32
[19:39] <ioria> tamarin,  comment them in interfaces and add them in wpa_supplicant.conf ... in interfaces add the pre-up line
[19:40] <ioria> !info binutils-mingw-w64-i686
[19:42] <ioria> !info  mingw-w64 | finn_gk
[19:45] <finn_gk> Ok, I will try it.
[19:56] <n-iCe> hi
[19:57] <n-iCe> did not like the bar at the bottom
[20:03] <sarek> im following this gude to enable WoL https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588&p=1369043#post1369043 and i got insserv: warning: script 'wakeonlanconfig' missing LSB tags and overrides when doing update-rc.d -f wakeonlanconfig defaults
[20:03] <hispeed_m> Hi, Ubuntu 16.04 -> I want to mount a persistent network folder: mount -o username=XXXX,password=XXXXX //192.168.0.23/SHARENAME /Music/Titan Musik
[20:03] <hispeed_m> i always get: for more details see mount (8) ????
[20:03] <sarek> .np
[20:03] <sarek> woops
[20:03] <hispeed_m> Mate Desktop enviroment 1.12.1
[20:04] <csst0111> I have updated from 12.04 to 14.04 but now i'm on a login loop. I googled and have found that i need to reinstall lightdm, i tried it but didnt help. Any other options ?
[20:04] <J4nus> uninsatll with a purge & then reinstall ?
[20:05] <J4nus> or install gdm
[20:05] <csst0111> yes thats what i did
[20:05] <csst0111> i havent tried gdm - let me give it a try
[20:11] <csst0111> J4nus, with gdm all I get is black screen. I cant press anything.
[20:12] <xcyclist> Must be administrative priv.
[20:12] <csst0111> and i think it flashes too - like it changes from one black screen to another
[20:12] <mikatone> hi is there any proper tutorial on how to install DNS for local requests and DHC ?
[20:12] <mikatone> DHCP
[20:12] <mikatone> Ubuntu 14.04
[20:13] <bubassalto> hello
[20:13] <bubassalto> is there anybody in there?
[20:13] <tgm4883> mikatone: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[20:14] <csst0111> cant open any terminal login too now : ctrl+alt+number displays login for a sec and then its being substitued by another black screen
[20:18] <anubiss> hi
[20:20] <Joel>  I seem to have done something so my grep is no longer returning the file it found a match in. 'alias' shows "alias grep='grep --color=auto'", I'm calling "grep -ri foo_bar *" thoughts on what else I could check? O.o
[20:25] <paul0897> hi
[20:27] <TurboKraken> !virtual
[20:27] <loganrun> do I did a distribution upgrade now my system boots in read only mode...if I do a remote in rw mode it come up, but I don't know how to fix it
[20:27] <TurboKraken> !virtualization
[20:27] <anubiss> hi
[20:28] <TurboKraken> I have been trying to track down a linux equivalent to window's disk2vhd.  Would anyone have any recommendations?
[20:28] <csst0111> So how do i switch back to lightdm since I have a problem with gdm and I can't even open a terminal ?
[20:28] <loganrun> anybody know how to fix ubuntu booting in read only mode
[20:29] <TurboKraken> !kvm
[20:32] <chaos_> hi all
[20:34] <tgm4883> TurboKraken: what is disk2vhd?
[20:36] <finn_gk> i686-w64-mingw32-gcc (version 5.3.1) lacks CMPLX from C11 complex.h, but gcc (version 5.3.1) supports it. It is not found in complex.h of mingw.
[20:36] <chaos_> http://download.cnet.com/Disk2vhd/3000-2094_4-10971796.html
[20:39] <tgm4883> TurboKraken: dd comes to mind, although there also seems to be various p2v applications for converting a physical machine to kvm
[20:39] <tgm4883> Personally I'd setup new virtual machines and migrate the services over
[20:40] <yvear> anyone know if there is progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1505014 ?
[20:44] <finn_gk> I will inform the author about CMPLX.
[20:45] <stanton> i am trying to compile the Doom 3 source code in ubuntu 16.04 i keep getting errors with zlib png jpeg-6 glew idlib (no such file or directory)  c++: error: 3/neo/libs/zlib: No such file or directory   looks like that
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> stanton  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:47] <stanton> MonkeyDust: thanks
[20:49] <drapslaget_> identify drapslaget Ze6shaih
[20:52] <loganrun> I can't boot my system after an upgrade. it gives some message about 144.3 GiB trimmed and just boots in read only mode. if I do a mount of the root in rw mode it will come up, but I want to fix it so I don't have to do this every time
[20:52] <loganrun> does anyone have any idea how to fix this
[20:53] <dax> drapslaget_: time to change your nickserv password
[20:53] <dax> (assuming you didn't already, /msg nickserv help set password)
[20:53] <multifractal> My laptop (sometimes not always) hangs during startup at a stage called "Starting ACPI daemon" or something similar. What gives? 14.04.
[20:53] <loganrun> join #linux
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> !info acpi | multifractal
[20:58] <loganrun> my file system is booting read only is there any way to fix this
[20:58] <drapslaget_> NickServ
[21:01] <TurboKraken> tgm4883: The HDD is 500gb but only 70gb worth the data. DD wants to make an equivalent 500gb. T_T
[21:06] <mikatone> any proper tutorial for dnsmaq I think bind is too complicated for a simple network with a few computers
[21:08] <djg79> Hi
[21:08] <djg79> im looking for some help with vpn and ssh
[21:10] <Bassem> how to know free disk space for my system
[21:11] <beantaxi> Hi all. Just upgraded from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS on my workstation. My second monitor is behaving erratically. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot, other than the Display app.
[21:11] <nacc> Bassem: `df -h` ?
[21:12] <tatertots> beantaxi is your gpu from the green team nvidia or from the red team amd? or maybe even intel integrated ?
[21:12] <Bassem> nacc, ther's alot of things which one
[21:13] <tatertots> pastbin the output Bassem
[21:14] <beantaxi> tatertots: lspci | grep VGA tells me it is AMD
[21:15] <qqqqqs> list *syria*
[21:16] <loganrun> can anyone help my ubuntu system will not boot up correctly now after a system upgrade. I tried boot fix program that reinstalled grub that still didn't fix it. Basically it mounts the root file system read only for some reason and come up with command prompt
[21:16] <loganrun> is there an error log or anything
[21:17] <k1l> loganrun: /var/log/syslog
[21:17] <Fuzzyma> Why does installing a kernel consumes so much of discspace?
[21:17] <k1l> Fuzzyma: because there is a lot of code in the kernel to make all sort of stuff work
[21:17] <Fuzzyma> 400MB big stuff?
[21:19] <loganrun> how do I disable the gui during boot so I can see what is going on
[21:19] <k1l> 400mb for one kernel?
[21:19] <loganrun> or not going on
[21:19] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22228567/
[21:19] <k1l> loganrun: remove "quiet splash" from the kernel boot line
[21:19] <Fuzzyma> i go sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial and its telling me that 400MB of diskspace will be consumed
[21:19] <loganrun> tastey
[21:20] <k1l> Fuzzyma: that might pull in some other metapackages
[21:21] <Fuzzyma> k1l is there a better way to install the kernel than apt-get?
[21:21] <tatertots> Bassem you have 403GB of space left  46% used
[21:22] <k1l> Fuzzyma: no
[21:22] <loganrun> k1l, any idea wher ethat is
[21:22] <klystron> hi how can you change the default video setting in Virtual Box when running a linux dstro?
[21:22] <Bassem> tatertots, can't be thats not my system driver
[21:23] <k1l> Fuzzyma: the kernel in general is made to support all kind of hardware. you dont have all that kind of hardware but other people might have that. if you want to shrink down the kernel size you will need to compile your own kernel and strip out the stuff you dont need.
[21:23] <Fuzzyma> k1l ok thx
[21:23] <loganrun> k1l, think I found it
[21:24] <tatertots> Bassem pastebin output of 'lsblk'
[21:25] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22229217/
[21:27] <tatertots> Bassem are you low on space in for your home directories?
[21:27] <tatertots> was 60GB not as much as you thought it'd be?
[21:28] <loganrun> k1l, how can I see the log that is printed during boot
[21:29] <loganrun> k1l, it shows some things failed to start but I don't remember what they were
[21:29] <k1l> loganrun: its in /var/log/dmesg
[21:29] <k1l> loganrun: or look at /var/log/syslog
[21:30] <loganrun> don't see the errors in either of those logs
[21:33] <Bassem> tatertots, how can i know if im low in space or not
[21:34] <k1l> Bassem: look at systemmonitor, or "df -h" in terminal
[21:34] <k1l> Bassem: what is your actual issue?
[21:35] <Bassem> k1l, want to install windows 10 on virtual machine and wonder if there's enugh space
[21:35] <beantaxi> Any thoughts, on how to begin troubleshooting a 2nd monitor issue, after 14.04->16.04 upgrade?
[21:35] <tatertots> Bassem in your pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/22228567/ there's coloms for amounts used/available
[21:35] <Luka00> Hello people on Skype I can send files but I do not see filese send to me why?
[21:36] <k1l> Bassem: you showed some pasted of df already. did you look at it?
[21:36] <carlo_> Hola
[21:36] <klystron> any Virtual Box experts?
[21:36] <k1l> beantaxi: look if there is a video driver issue
[21:36] <Bassem> yes saya at home 54g avilavble but i dedicate 100 gb partition for ubuntu
[21:37] <tatertots> Bassem here is your 'lsblk' pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/22229217/
[21:37] <k1l> Bassem: yes, and that is seperated in 3 partiitons: /, /home and swap. look at the other pastes you showed us
[21:37] <Luka00> which may be the problem the firewall?
[21:38] <beantaxi> k1l: How do I look if there is a video driver issue
[21:38] <Bassem> k1l, it;s 84 gb where is the rest
[21:38] <k1l> Bassem: seems like some lvm overhead
[21:39] <k1l> beantaxi: dmesg, syslog, xorg.log
[21:39] <mikatone> can't put bind to work getting https://gist.github.com/fccpt/2dfd97a41b4cda12fad644ba2dda869a
[21:39] <k1l> beantaxi: what is the issue at all?
[21:42] <Luka00> Hello people on Skype I can send files but I do not see filese send to me why?
[21:42] <Luka00> it is so strange
[21:43] <beantaxi> kil: primary monitor seems ok. Secondary monitor is not. At best, I can get it to display windows, which do not redraw properly; instead they leave 'trails'
[21:44] <beantaxi> k1l: dmseg -> http://pastebin.com/Fs1nHZ3P
[21:45] <doonie> Hi all, just did a do-release-upgrade on server3 which was successful but partly failed on this part http://paste.ubuntu.com/22231607/ while the other 2 servers were fine, any input on how to resolve the dependancy issue?
[21:46] <beantaxi> k1l: Similar issues in syslog. I don't have xorg.log
[21:46] <k1l> doonie: "apt-cache policy python3" in a pastebin
[21:47] <doonie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22231875/
[21:47] <k1l> beantaxi: since 16.04 there is no fglrx anymore.
[21:48] <k1l> doonie: sudo apt update && sudo apt-get -f install
[21:49] <k1l> doonie: actually it seems like python3-minimal is the issue here. "sudo apt install python3-minimal" and see why its not installing
[21:50] <doonie> yea its the only one stuck on 3.4, one sec
[21:50] <doonie> python3-minimal is already the newest version.
[21:50] <k1l> apt-cache policy python3-minimal
[21:50] <doonie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22232300/
[21:51] <doonie> I would say its the python3 (depends on 3.4 and not > 3.4)  python3 : Depends: python3-minimal (= 3.4.0-0ubuntu2) but 3.5.1-3 is to be installed
[21:51] <k1l> doonie: hmm, could be that your mirror got wrong depencies for the one file then
[21:52] <doonie> indeed, any way to force this?
[21:52] <k1l> apt-get install -f
[21:52] <k1l> you could manually remove the apt lists cache, too
[21:53] <ilukis> Hello!
[21:53] <doonie> ooo tell me more of the removal, I just checked the other 2 servers which went fine. same mirrors used, policies are same
[21:54] <derwood2> Heya folks, this is what I have been doing for the last few hours to get MaaS 2.0 up and running on 16.4.1? LTS, using four machines, all of which are the same apart from the server/controller/rack region controller having double the RAM of the nodes, this could do with some work, spellinga and grammar, but it's quick and dirty, and works.. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2332842
[21:54] <csst0111> im still not able to login to 14.04, I have even connected ethernet cable but i dont have network at all.
[21:54] <k1l> doonie: "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*"
[21:54] <k1l> doonie: after that "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:54] <derwood2> Now I need to find a way to install, Autopilot, OpenStack and Juju without any issues :D
[21:55] <doonie> ty k1l, same error with full-upgrade
[21:55] <k1l> doonie: after the rm?
[21:55] <doonie> probably mirror problem
[21:55] <doonie> yes after rm & update
[21:59] <tatertots> i did a small back and restore job with deja dup, it's nifty
[21:59] <k1l> doonie: sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-depends" install python3
[22:00] <Bassem> how can i add the extra 20 gb to home partition?
[22:01] <kenrin> Is your home partition LVM?
[22:02] <doonie> same k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/22233635/
[22:02] <k1l> doonie: hmm, did you have a ppa or third party repo that changed the python packages?
[22:03] <doonie> could be, server is pretty old, pip could have changed something as well
[22:03] <doonie> or something with a custom env
[22:03] <jac76> Bassem: is there a particular directory in "home" that is taking up a lot of space?
[22:03] <beantaxi> k1l: Reading ... so it looks like there are open source drivers available. I guess I just need to make sure to use one of them?
[22:04] <derwood2> Has anyone here ever installed "Autopilot", "OpenStack", "Juju" on 16.4LTS?
[22:04] <doonie> I tried to cheat the installer http://paste.ubuntu.com/22233883/ somewhat closer :)
[22:04] <k1l> beantaxi: they are in use automatically. but depending on your exact card that might not be the same experience as with fglrx before.
[22:04] <Bassem> jac76, i dedicate 100 gb partition for ubuntu there's 3 / and swap and home 20, 4, 60
[22:05] <beantaxi> k1l: So I might just be SOL, unless I want to get a new graphics card
[22:05] <doonie> should probably reboot server, but scared it wont come back :D
[22:05] <klystron> can any one help with a virtual box question?
[22:05] <k1l> doonie: 6 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 582 not upgraded.
[22:05] <k1l> doonie: still a lot missing
[22:05] <doonie> oh missed that one, yea thats ba
[22:05] <doonie> bad* could break the boot
[22:05] <jac76> Bassem: you left 15G unused?
[22:06] <doonie> yea not even the new kernel is there. so need to sort this out for sure
[22:06] <Bassem> jac76, the person how help me install ubutnu told me we can add it later easily
[22:06] <derwood2> 15Gb is for his p4on dude :d
[22:07] <k1l> beantaxi: i am not an amd specialists. but amd is now cotributing to the amd_gpu driver which is based on the radeon and should replace the fglrx now.
[22:07] <jac76> In the old unix days, if a filesystem was full, we would find the directory with the most files in it and make a mount point of it.
[22:08] <doonie> k1l:  maybe if I add an official mirror to help with the logics =)
[22:08] <jac76> Bassem: to that mount point we could mount another partition of any size
[22:09] <Bassem> jac76, i want to add it to home...but can you help me check if it exist
[22:10] <doonie> nope same hmm
[22:10] <mikatone> need help with bind please :/
[22:10] <jac76> If you go to /home and do an "ls" how many directories to you see, just you?
[22:11] <doonie> not to mention that apt update seems sick :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/22234754/
[22:11] <Bassem> jac76, you talking to me?
[22:11] <jac76> yes
[22:11] <NisamRobot> is google chrome in repo?
[22:12] <jac76> Bassem: how many directories do you see in /home
[22:12] <Bassem> jac76, in terminal?
[22:12] <jac76> Bassem, yes, in a terminal
[22:12] <Bashing-om> NisamRobot: No, google-chrome is proprietary .
[22:12] <k1l> NisamRobot: no. load the .deb from their webpage and install that. only chromium is in the repo
[22:13] <jac76> bassem: open a terminal, "cd /home" and "ls"
[22:13] <Bassem> jac76, bs  lost+found
[22:13] <k1l> Bassem: use baobab as program to see what uses the space in your home
[22:13] <nevil> hello
[22:13] <jac76> Bassem: and "bs" is you ?
[22:13] <Bassem> jac76, yes
[22:13] <nevil> is anyone alive in here?
[22:13] <IamRobot> ok any good light weigth browser i thinked midori but all people talk only shit about it
[22:13] <jac76> now do a "du -s"
[22:13] <daumie> I wanna rice ubuntu
[22:14] <jac76> bassem: now do a "du -s"
[22:14] <derwood2> I have also found that if sometimes, your node does not fully start, it does a partial "thing" where it can fetch the data required through a PXE boot and then like hang for ages..., reboot the node and switch it's UTP patch cable from one port to another empty one and it fires up proper first time... I think it's cheap switches, mines from TPLinnk and it still does it..
[22:14] <jac76> bassem:  "du" stands for "disk usage" and the "-s" means summary
[22:15] <Bassem> jac76, du: cannot read directory './bs/.cache/dconf': Permission denied
[22:15] <nevil> What is aux is ps aux?
[22:15] <derwood2> Can anyone point me in the right direction of going about installing "autopilot" on Ubuntu 16.4.1LTS with Maas2.0 installed, please :D
[22:15] <jac76> bassem: yep, that won't stop it
[22:15] <Bashing-om> doonie: What in the world do you have for sources ? Pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' See what apt is so unhappy about .
[22:15] <nacc> nevil: read `man ps`, those are all arguments to `ps`
[22:15] <Bassem> jac76, ?
[22:16] <nacc> derwood2: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:16] <mikatone> anyone?
[22:16] <jac76> bassem: this should return to you a number that equals the sapce you are using
[22:16] <Bassem> jac76, 2015892
 Cheers buddy, Really sorry, I did not even know another page for that type of install or a place to ask questions on this level evem existed.. Sorry :D
[22:18] <jac76> bassem: that states that there are only 2GB in use
[22:18] <Bassem> jac76, so
[22:18] <beantaxi> k1l: Thank you very much for the information.
[22:19] <jac76> Bassem:  Let me ask the question a different way, where are you going to get the extra space from?
[22:19] <nevil> I cant believe there is people in here answering questions. Awesome! Why do you guys do it? To be nice, for fun, cash/
[22:19] <nevil> ?
[22:19] <nacc> derwood2: nothing to apologize for! you will just find more topical help there, probably
[22:19] <k1l> nevil: its all volunteers in here. no paid people, just community.
[22:20] <nevil> Pretty sweet! Thanks again!
 yep... Probably, sounds like the right phrase :D Cheers buddy :D
[22:20] <ots> Hi, I already have a partition scheme on my computer where the rootfs and home directories are in two separate BTRFS subvolumes on two different drives. Is it possible to install ubuntu in the same manner, so it doesn't ruin my setup? :P
[22:21] <Bassem> jac76, i think you didn't get me well..let me explain again....i dedicate 100 gb partition for ubuntu..the guy who help me install it..make 4 g for swap 20 gb for root and 60 gb for home...left 16 gb unused
[22:22] <Bassem> jac76, i want to mount those unused 16 gb to home
[22:22] <Bassem> jac76, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22236082/
[22:24] <hermann> hi
[22:24] <tatertots> Bassem you want to extend the 'logical volume' ?
[22:24] <apina> hi
[22:24] <Bassem> tatertots, i think yes
[22:24] <jac76> bassem: if you know how to use a disk partition program and those extra 16GB are right next to the /home partition, it's possible to extend the partition to include that extra 16GB of space.  But partition tools have the ability to destroy things as well.
[22:25] <Bashing-om> !lvm
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Bassem: ^^ .. LVM at play here .. a whole now ball of wax .
[22:26] <jac76> bassem:  So the typical solution is to mount up that 16GB of disk somewhere else.  The place where you mount that disk could be in the /home directory tree, it in effect becomes part of /home.
[22:26] <tatertots> Bassem there's a decent write up on LVM here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[22:27] <tatertots> keep your goal in mind ..'you want to extend' it
[22:28] <jac76> Bassem:  Or you could mount that 16GB to /home2 and then in the /home directory tree you make "soft-links" from /home/* to /home2/*, again effectively incressing the size of /home.
[22:29] <tatertots> Bassem you mentioned someone that installed the system/sys admin said they left 15GB or so that could 'easily' be added in the future, you might want to pick up the phone and buzz said person and say "i'm ready for that 15GB now" lol
[22:29] <Bassem> jac76, how can i extiend my logical volume
[22:30] <Bassem> tatertots, he was here he help me to install ubuntu for the first time
[22:30] <jac76> Bassem" "logical volumes" is another can of worms, as tatertots states, you would want to start by reading up on LVM
[22:30] <Bassem> tatertots, and when i told him why to mount only 60 gb for home he said we can extend it easily later
[22:30] <tatertots> you'll use the vgextend command but you got some more homework/research to do before you even get to that step
[22:31] <Bassem> jac76, how can i check if it's logical or not
[22:31] <Bassem> because as logical volume it's 100 gb
[22:31] <tatertots> it is Bassem
[22:31] <tatertots> look at your pastbins bro
[22:31] <Bassem> tatertots, , http://paste.ubuntu.com/22236082/
[22:32] <Bassem> sda2              8:2    0   100G  0 part
[22:32] <tatertots> 'lvm'
[22:32] <Bassem> see sda2 is 100 gb
[22:32] <Bassem> but i only use 84 gb
[22:32] <Bassem> where is the rest
[22:33] <jac76> bassem: Ah... well, LVM stands for "Logical Volume Manager" and if you have that software installed there will be several commands available for you to use for that.  LVM is a "software" version of combining several disks or "volumes" together as a single disk.
[22:33] <vook> is there way to enable vlan functionality in the installer for either ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop live? vconfig just doesn't exist.
[22:34] <Bassem> jac76, so what to do to get my lost 16 gb
[22:34] <jac76> Bassem: Hardware wise, the equivalent is to use a RAID controller of some type.  Perhaps a storage array, and so on.
[22:34] <tatertots> you are looking at the partition Bassem
[22:34] <oats> Hi, I already have a partition scheme on my computer where the rootfs and home directories are in two separate BTRFS subvolumes on two different drives. Is it possible to install ubuntu in the same manner, so it doesn't ruin my setup? :P
[22:35] <Bassem> tatertots, what do you mean
[22:35] <doonie> any more pointers? ftp service is down :/  is it possible to download the dpkg with apt and then manually install? might be able to get around some checks maybe?
[22:36] <tatertots> Bassem do you need more disk space on your computer? yes/no
[22:36] <jac76> Bassem:  If that person who set up your system stated /home could be extended later, then more than likely they are beside each other on the disk, you just need to use a partition manager of some type to expand the /home partition into that 16GB area.  Easily done if you know what your doing.  But if you don't know what your doing its easy for a partition manager to be used to totally mess up a disk.
[22:37] <aash> how could i install a vpn..an help
[22:38] <tatertots> aash vpn client or vpn server?
[22:38] <tatertots> you have to mean server right?
[22:39] <aash> client
[22:39] <aash> on my laptop
[22:40] <csst0111> Can i format root, install ubuntu or some other linux distro and use previous home  ?
[22:40] <vook> yes
[22:40] <tatertots> since you will be using vpn as a client i'll post a link and you should already have been given information to connect from the vpn authorities/admins
[22:40] <tatertots> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/net-vpn-connect.html
[22:40] <vook> csst0111: you'll just need to chown it after install & some of your GUI settings may need to be adjusted
[22:41] <csst0111> vook, cool thnx!
[22:41] <Bassem> jac76, what partition manager do i need to use?
[22:41] <aash> tetertots:openvpn can i use to install
[22:42] <k1l> doonie: you can get the packages from packages.ubuntu.com and install them with "dpkg -i package.deb"
[22:42] <tatertots> aash here's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgsU86jdXIc
[22:42] <JFlash> hi, can a good soul help me figure out my connection problems. I can reach a few urls but mostly doent work
[22:42] <doonie> apt-get download seems to help too, but so many weird status messages :)
[22:43] <JFlash> also whatever I try to ping I get "network is unreachable"
[22:43] <JFlash> even if in the browser the same URL does work
[22:43] <lordcirth> Bassem, gparted is good
[22:44] <JFlash> i can reach google.com.. i cannot reach github.com
[22:44] <JFlash> but why?
[22:44] <Sayona> Hi, what is wrong witht his command: find $LOG type -f -mtime +90 -exec rm -f {} \;
[22:44] <jac76> Bassem: "gparted" is one I have become accustom to using.  There are others "disk" is another example
[22:45] <Sayona> find: unknown predicate `-f'
[22:45] <lordcirth> JFlash, are you sure you're not behind a weird firewall?
[22:45] <Bassem> jac76, what is better?
[22:45] <dax> Sayona: change the type -f to -type f
[22:45] <JFlash> well i just back home from work, but I live with others.. can someone have installed a firewall while I was at work?
[22:46] <Sayona> thanks
[22:46] <aash> tatertots: certificate needed.?
[22:46] <JFlash> also, why "network is unreachable" for evrithing on the terminal, including sites that work in the browser?
[22:46] <doonie> k1l:  node ppa seems to have broke a few things, commented it out now to see what can be done to fix it from here, apt-cache has no 3.5 for python3 now
[22:46] <jac76> Bassem: I would recommend you practicing using gparted on a unused external USB disk to get familiar with it and how it works before "experimenting" on your live disk.
[22:46] <doonie> ah nevermind its back
[22:47] <lordcirth> JFlash, check to see if your browser is using a proxy or something?
[22:47] <JFlash> also, when I run the routes -n command I dont have an entry which as a double 0.0.0.0 value
[22:47] <tatertots> JFlash what is unreachable in terminal for you ?
[22:47] <tatertots> that you can reach by browser specifically
[22:47]  * Sayona God Bless Linux !
[22:47] <JFlash> i've been reading some posts and they say I must have a double 0.0.0.0 in my routes table, whatever that is
[22:48] <doonie> k1l:  does this make sense? http://paste.ubuntu.com/22238938/
[22:48] <jac76> bassem:  I don't know if one partition manager is "better" that the other, but one becomes more "familiar" than the other as you grow accustom to it.
[22:48] <JFlash> everything is unreachable in the terminal
[22:48] <JFlash> some sites works in the browser
[22:48] <brenda_> Hi! Is there any way one can get Firefox or Chromium to play Youtube videos as lean as mpv?
[22:48] <JFlash> even ip addresss give me network unreacheble
[22:49] <k1l> doonie: use "--force-depends" on that dpkg
[22:49] <JFlash> tatertots, google.com, youtube.com.. all work in the browser
[22:49] <JFlash> a few other sites
[22:49] <oats> Hello, I already have Arch Linux installed with a partition scheme where the rootfs and home directories are in two separate BTRFS subvolumes on two different drives. Is it possible to install ubuntu in the same manner, alongside my Arch install?
[22:49] <tatertots> JFlash could it have something to do with the configuration of the network you're on?
[22:49] <doonie> k1l:  that went in, now lets see what we did ;D
[22:50] <tatertots> ok so google com works in browser okay
[22:50] <JFlash> tatertots, excelente question.. works well with my other devices
[22:50] <JFlash> so it's definitely ubuntu
[22:50] <doonie> k1l:  well it started to install other packages but failed, but it seems we're on the right path
[22:51] <JFlash> again, all blog posts I read tell me that I must have a double 0;0;0;0
[22:51] <JFlash> but I dont have one
[22:51] <JFlash> isnt that a really really bad sign?
[22:51] <Bassem> jac76, https://s31.postimg.org/8xd8ph9e3/Screenshot_from_2016_08_05_00_50_52.png
[22:51] <glorias> test
[22:51] <glorias> cant send to channell
[22:52] <Bassem> jac76, it says unused but i can't resize it
[22:52] <bprompt> hm?
[22:52] <Pici> glorias: we see you
[22:52] <glorias> thats depressing
[22:52] <jac76> Don't resize it
[22:52] <tatertots> JFlash what are you reading blog posts about?...do you have a net problem if your web browser functions?
[22:52] <glorias> soß
[22:52] <glorias>  ?
[22:52] <brenda_> oats: just out of curiosity, why dual boot Arch and Ubuntu?
[22:52] <glorias> I listen BB Kin
[22:52] <tatertots> isn't that what you as a end user will spend the bulk of time using
[22:52] <Pici> glorias: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:52] <JFlash> tatertots, as I said in the benning only a few urls work
[22:52] <doonie> k1l:  -f install didn't work, but dist-upgrade is working its way through, -f install probably failed cause of the cleared caches :) ty so far for your help
[22:52] <bprompt> glorias:      we Õ¿Õ you
[22:52] <JFlash> most website do not work
[22:53] <jac76> Bassem: don't resize it.  let me see if I can look at what you posted.
[22:53] <glorias> yes
[22:53] <glorias> Why people hate me?
[22:53] <glorias> machines love me
[22:53] <bprompt> !ot | glorias
[22:53] <k1l> glorias: this is the technical ubuntu support. please keep this channel clear for support
[22:54] <glorias> okay
[22:54] <oats> brenda_: I use arch as my daily driver and have no intention of switching, but I haven't used Ubuntu in a while and I'm curious how it is
[22:54] <glorias> so could u help me with xrandr?
[22:54] <tatertots> JFlash pick a single url and let's troubleshoot it from point A to point B and back to point A, a single url , don't muddy the water with trying to think more than one is realavent
[22:54] <brenda_> Why does Firefox and Chrome on Linux suck playing Youtube videos? Frustration!
[22:54] <glorias> always  I boot mine  3 Screens are mixed!
[22:54] <glorias> and never be plz unpolite
[22:55] <glorias> Im old and slow - sorry
[22:55] <JFlash> tatertots, I'm listening.. havent got any sugestions yet on how to fix this.. :-(
[22:55] <Bassem> jac76, https://s31.postimg.org/kqicrxuaj/Screenshot_from_2016_08_05_00_54_16.png
[22:55] <doonie> brenda_:  probably cause of bad gfx drivers
[22:55] <Ron___> Good day.  I am using VMWare Fusion 8 and trying to create a 16.04.1 server image.  All goes well, then I install ubuntu-desktop (minus recommendation).  That goes well.  I then log in.  I see the left gui items, but the rest is black.  I am unable to launch anything (like a terminal).  I can click on the "System Settings" and it opens a window but all I see is black and the menu bar to exit.  Any ideas?
[22:55] <glorias> but Im still not sure KDE or GDM
[22:56] <glorias> Im always not sure whom is an ashole
[22:56] <glorias> so thats the reason I get Kicked
[22:56] <glorias> Im unest
[22:56] <k1l> glorias: stop that
[22:56] <brenda_> oats: a Live Ubuntu or virtualbox (or something similar) does not do it for you?
[22:56] <glorias> what kll?
[22:56] <glorias> What is u IQ?
[22:57] <glorias> 42?
[22:57] <tatertots> JFlash if you're reading this chat from the computer in question and it also is the same computer you mentioned above that is able to browse to google and a few other sites, we'l assume your internet is working
[22:58] <JFlash> tatertots, it doesnt matter. here is my problem. I can access all websites in my other devices
[22:58] <JFlash> in unbuntu, i can only access a handful of website
[22:58] <brenda_> donnie: you don't say, mpv play youtube videos 400% less CPU intense - on the same machine
[22:59] <JFlash> this is what I'm trying to fix.. "internet is working " is beside the point
[22:59] <tatertots> what website url can you not access?...maybe there is something prohibiting you from getting to that particular site
[23:00] <doonie> brenda_: as in less on linux vs windows? then its the browser rendering of html5-video
[23:00] <tatertots> JFlash maybe theres a connection limit
[23:00] <jac76> Bassem: In looking at your partition table it looks like you are using 3 primary partitions.  sda1 is the boot partition with 100GB of space.  "sda2" is a "lvm2pv" volume that is 100 GB in space and "sda3" is an ntfs partition with 731GB of space.
[23:01] <jac76> Bassem: Sda2 appears to be a LVM volume
[23:01] <brenda_> doonie, as linux vs linux :) ... same machine, same OS, same driver... browser vs mpv
[23:03] <doonie> brenda_: yea that does make sense, even drives my macs fan up while watching videos through browser sadly
[23:03] <jac76> Bassem:  Sadly I haven't experimented much with LVM.  I use it years ago on a now dead operating system named True64 Unix and that knowledge helps me very little here.  I would have to experiment with it on an external disk.
[23:05] <jac76> Bassem: but what theory I know of LVM would say that with in that one partition there are several LVM "sub-partitions" and one of them is your missing 16GB.
[23:05] <tatertots> Bassem
[23:06] <loganrun> my system only comes up with a read only file system after system upgrade. does anyone know how to fix this
[23:07] <aash> how to secure and web browsing which software need to install, any open source aviailable
[23:07] <aash> o.
[23:08] <brenda_> doonie, I do not understand why they do not fix it. I don't even understand what the problem is. Why is a browser struggling so much while other programs (mpv, kodi, vlc etc) can do it with little effort (on performance)?
[23:08] <doonie> you and me both
[23:08] <tatertots> I'm gone be straight up with ya, someone had to install ubuntu for you, and you're going to extend a logical volume on your running system
[23:09] <doonie> its not like the browser does not have the same permissions to the gpu api's as vlc
[23:09] <Bashing-om> loganrun: Ststem trying to protect is's self ? .. How about a file system check/repair ? What release is this ?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> it's*
[23:09] <loganrun> tried check repair, said it was just check. if I remount it as rw it mounts
[23:09] <aash> tatertots: o/o
[23:10] <tatertots> There's a cool write up on LVM https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[23:10] <brenda_> donnie, I know a lot of people that do not even consider Linux just because the browsers suck at playing videos!
[23:11] <aash> tatertots: any help o/ for private browsing??
[23:11] <doonie> I'm one of them, same for games.. I just read an article today regarding the gfx problem http://www.neowin.net/news/new-report-suggests-operating-system-makers-could-block-pirated-content
[23:11] <borei> hi all
[23:11] <orlock> silly news sites
[23:11] <doonie> reading the comments, people feel the same, noone dislikes linux and what it stands for, it just needs some of those artistic guys in it :)
[23:12] <orlock> lots of things are possible, and unlikely to ever happen - thats one of them
[23:12] <borei> is there way to resize disk for ubuntu image (vm running under kvm) without rebooting ?
[23:12] <borei> image backedup with ceph storage
[23:12] <borei> ceph image resized
[23:13] <borei> but i don't see option to force VM to detect changes
[23:13] <doonie> orlock: true, it's all about the money
[23:13] <brenda_> doonie, I'm not a big gamer but I have hear similar things about Linux and games
[23:13] <loganrun> also how do I start the graphical login manager manually
[23:14] <Bashing-om> loganrun: Again, depends on the release ( upsatrt or systemd as the initiate system ) .
[23:15] <Zerofysh> Hello Ubuntu world
[23:15] <brenda_> doonie, and it's a shame you know.. youtubers and gamers, many people are excluded from the Linux family!
[23:15] <brenda_> Hi Zerofysh
[23:15] <doonie> well depends, you can still watch it at 400% cpu ;D
[23:15] <loganrun> 16.04
[23:17] <loganrun> Bashing-om, those commands don't seem to do anything is there a special command to start them on 16.04
[23:17] <brenda_> doonie, hahaha... but seriously, I can live with it on my desktop, but having a sucking browser eating my notebooks battery in no time is not that fun!
[23:18] <loganrun> ahh looks like it is lightdm
[23:18] <Zerofysh> Just got the new Ubuntu and well, I have so much to learn.
[23:18] <Bashing-om> loganrun: Sirry, ya lost me .. " those commands don't seem to do anything ". What commands ?
[23:18] <blocky> hi, i'm running 15.10 and i allowed the update manager to install updates this morning, then rebooted and was greeted with: invalid video mode specification 'text'
[23:19] <blocky> can boot into recovery mode but not sure what the problem is or how to fix
[23:19] <brenda_> loganrun, xfce?
[23:19] <blocky> have already tried running update-grub
[23:20] <poopBot> anyone know why stema wont run
[23:20] <poopBot> libGL error: unable to load driver: r600_dri.so
[23:20] <poopBot> i runed on 14.04
[23:20] <Toxtlo> Hi, I got a small SSD (64GB) and want to install Ubuntu. Is a swap partition really needed? Because it would "waste" 16GB of the SSD... :-|
[23:21] <Zerofysh> I am trying to learn python but the new ubuntu does not have it install. How do go about getting it?
[23:21] <poopBot> sudo apt-get install python
[23:21] <poopBot> i think
[23:21] <Ron___> Any suggestions on debug/fix a broken 16.04 server gui using ubuntu-desktop (no recommendations?)  I see the left menu, but windows are blank and I can't open a terminal.
[23:21] <orlock> Toxtlo: no
[23:21] <brenda_> Toxtlo, how much RAM do you have?
[23:21] <hggdh> Zerofysh: python is installed by default on Ubuntu (and most other distros)
[23:22] <orlock> Toxtlo: it will be fine in 95% of cases
[23:22] <Zerofysh> I see. How about getting the 3.5.2 version?
[23:22] <tatertots> poopBot pastbin output of '/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p'
[23:22] <orlock> Toxtlo: also, you dont need as much swap as you have ram
[23:22] <hggdh> Zerofysh: sudoapt-get install python3
[23:22] <Bashing-om> loganrun: To start lightdm form terminal in 16.04 ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' . Be aware that ALL other services are not started, it is on you what services to start, such as networking .
[23:22] <hggdh> ugh
[23:22] <Zerofysh> Thank you
[23:22] <hggdh> Zerofysh: sudo apt-get install python3
[23:22] <Toxtlo> got 16GB and have another 8GB lying around here
[23:22] <orlock> Toxtlo: if you did run out of ram at some point, and wanted swap, you could always just use a swap file temporarily
[23:23] <orlock> Toxtlo: rather than having a dedicated partition always there
[23:23] <Zerofysh> Saids I have it. Now I just need a good IDE to learn on.
[23:23] <poopBot> tatertots:  i dont have any file there, anyway on duckduckg it says to remove steam bundled libs and try whitou tthem
[23:24] <Toxtlo> does the installer specify a swap file automatically for my system, when I dont set a swap partition under manual partitioning?
[23:24] <lockhelp> in trusty+unity, how do i disable locking? going to settings > brightness & lock has the Lock button disabled into the ON state.
[23:25] <demetris> i cant reboot my laptop
[23:25] <brenda_> Toxtlo, no, it should not
[23:25] <demetris> only shutdown works
[23:25] <hggdh> Zerofysh: Pycharm is nice, and has a community version -- https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/#section=linux
[23:25] <Toxtlo> ok, so swapon should do the trick?
[23:25] <demetris> when i try to reboot it freezes
[23:25] <demetris> fresh xenial install
[23:25] <Zerofysh> Ahh, yeah I forgot about pycharm. Thanks.
[23:25] <demetris> 16.04.1
[23:26] <tatertots> poopBot yeah try that
[23:26] <demetris> anyway to get any logs?
[23:27] <poopBot> tatertots:  i removed only that 1 lib dident work so i removed all libs that come with steam now it runed at least is updating ATM
[23:28] <lockhelp> does xvkbd disable screen lock?
[23:28] <lockhelp> if i send a spacebar or whatever every 9 minutes and 50 seconds
[23:29] <linux> Hi, When I install a package there are other packages will be installed with it, if I remove that package Will other packages which installed with it removed automatically or I need remove them Manually?
[23:29] <demetris> any ubuntu devs here?
[23:29] <poopBot> you have to do after that apt-get autoremove
[23:30] <linux> I'm using Synaptic
[23:30] <poopBot> it removes packages that where leftout if you read terminal it even says it
[23:30] <demetris> any ubuntu devs here?
[23:30] <poopBot> duno if synaptic does it , just open terminal and type sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:31] <demetris> bug reporting time
[23:31] <demetris> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22243524/
[23:31] <poopBot> and it will remove all leaftower packages
[23:32] <B0g4r7> How can I figure out what's using all my memory?  I've closed most all the things, and I still see 11GB of swap consumed.  'free' and 'ps axu' output here: http://pastebin.com/6LkRWY7J
[23:32] <linux> I can't do that without trminal
[23:33] <linux> by GUI Synaptic
[23:33] <poopBot> linux: you probbaly can just i duno how its don in synaptics, duno whatsthe big issue anywya just copy paste comand and press enter
[23:33] <poopBot> tatertots:  nice update installed like more libs same error gain xD
[23:34] <B0g4r7> 294 processes and practically nothing running...
[23:34] <linux> Ok , Thank you poopBot
[23:36] <poopBot> B0g4r7:  if they are idle that dosent mean they arent usinging ram but duno what doing that i dont even have spaw partition and have only 4gbs of ram
[23:37] <demetris> any ubuntu devs here?
[23:37] <nacc> demetris: yes, but depending your question you may want to ask in #ubuntu-devel
[23:37] <demetris> nacc: i have bugs
[23:38] <poopBot> report bug?
[23:38] <nacc> demetris: ok, did you report them?
[23:38] <B0g4r7> Looks like Xorg is consuming 14.2% of memory, however much 14.2% is.  That doesn't seem right.
[23:38] <demetris> [   12.844633] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000001028-0x000000000000102F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000001000-0x000000000000103B (\_SB_.C002.C003.C085) (20150930/utaddress-254)
[23:38] <demetris> [   12.844644] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[23:38] <nacc> demetris: please don't paste each bug in here, use a pastebin, or file bugs
[23:38] <demetris> laptop freezes when i try to reboot
[23:38] <demetris> sure
[23:39] <nacc> demetris: the above isn't a bug in Ubuntu, it's probably buggy BIOS
[23:39] <poopBot> some driver issue or soemthing
[23:39] <demetris> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22243524/
[23:40] <B0g4r7> Yeah, that sure looks like a kernelspace issue.
[23:41] <demetris> more bugs http://paste.ubuntu.com/22244646/
[23:42] <poopBot> did you try other kernel
[23:42] <demetris> nope
[23:42] <poopBot> meybe try older one
[23:42] <demetris> why/
[23:42] <nacc> demetris: how are you defining bug? just any message reported byt he kernel?
[23:42] <poopBot> downlod 14.04
[23:42] <B0g4r7> bugs?
[23:42] <demetris> poopBot: nope
[23:42] <B0g4r7> What bug is described in the second paste?
[23:43] <B0g4r7> or in the first, for that matter?
[23:43] <poopBot> why, cuz 14.04 will maybe work normal while the issue isent fixed on 16.04, ofc first report it
[23:43] <cablecoder> anyone get kinect drivers working on 16.04?
[23:43] <demetris> nacc: i define bug when i see message as this: [ 2657.470892] ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[23:44] <B0g4r7> demetris, you see a message and that's all?  No other behavior?
[23:44] <demetris> again
[23:44] <demetris> laptop freezes when i try to reboot
[23:44] <nacc> demetris: you didn't paste any such message
[23:44] <demetris> i have to press power button >4 secs to force shutdown
[23:45] <nacc> demetris: the paste you did provided says stuff about commands timing out for the ipw220 driver
[23:45] <demetris> how i can get a log when laptop freezes?
[23:47] <brenda_> demetris, what OS where you running before you fresh install of 16.04?
[23:47] <demetris> manjaro
[23:47] <demetris> same issue
[23:48] <brenda_> demetris, what laptop is it?
[23:48] <demetris> HP510
[23:49] <xkpe> the packages that get installed in the windows 10 bash are the same packages that would be installed in a native 16.04 ubuntu distribution?
[23:49] <demetris> brenda_: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-510-15-4-pentium-m-770-win-xp-home-512-mb-ram-60-gb-hdd-series/specs/
[23:49] <demetris> i have 2gb ram
[23:50] <xkpe> (I mean 14.04 trusty)
[23:52] <nacc> !ubuwin | xkpe
[23:53] <xkpe> nacc thanks
[23:55] <bprompt> xkpe:   correction on that bot, upgrade 1607 for windows10 rolled out just about 3 days, ago, Adds the Windows Subsystem for Linux, namely a Linux emulator, or a WINE for windows per se, so... it's already there in builid 1607 for the last 3 days now
[23:56] <loganrun> still can't figure out what the heck is going on. system boots with read only file system after upgrade
[23:57] <cablecoder> can anyone help with usb 3.0 hub on 16.04?
[23:57] <xkpe> bprompt, I am using it, I was lookint at the /etc/apt/sources.list and it looked like the standard ubuntu, I was expecting a different distribution, that's where my question came from :)
[23:57] <dax> bprompt: it's still in Beta in the anniversary update
[23:58] <bprompt> dax:   hmm I see
[23:58] <loganrun> here you can see the failed services, not sure if this gives any useful info or not, but it is the only thing I am seeing that is a bit off: http://pastebin.com/rA0w1Zv9
[23:58] <dax> bprompt: basically, it's a technology preview. i would not do anything important on it
[23:58] <bprompt> xkpe:    yeah, done with Canonical teaming, so... I'd expect the debian package manager, thus the /etc/apt/sources.list then :)
[23:59] <loganrun> this is completely crazy