[00:00] valorie: yes [00:01] valorie: I mean technically [00:01] valorie: if you mean assistant in training technically have no permissions then yes :P [00:01] valorie: I can release everywhere (Twitter, Blog, etc.) except for actually marking as ready on the QA tracker [00:02] valorie: that and I hold no official title [00:02] * tsimonq2 pokes wxl [00:03] right, that needs some advanced permissions [00:03] yeah [00:07] well KCI has just filled the queue and my jobs have got pushed back [00:07] :( [00:07] telling me its time for bed [00:08] niters clivejo [00:08] tsimonq2: have you given any thought to becoming a MOTU? [00:08] or core devel [00:08] dad just called to tell me that animal control is gonna drop off one of the two cats O__O [00:09] both yofel and clivejo were thinking about that I believe [00:09] mmmm nope [00:09] not I [00:09] valorie: I have, and yes, on my list of things to do before I'm 18 :P [00:09] valorie: I would love to [00:09] valorie: I recently became a ninja, my next step is developer [00:10] THEN I'll go for MOTU [00:10] s/developer/Kubuntu Developer/ [00:10] hm... I need to write up another application page, after my last one was kindly deleted [00:10] kind of destroyed my motivation [00:10] eww, yofel [00:10] how was it deleted? [00:10] someone over-cleaning the wiki? [00:10] valorie: I became a Kubuntu NINJA! http://tsimonq2.net/kubuntusoundboard/ lol [00:11] tsimonq2: yes I voted for ya [00:11] nah, probably someone restoring a wiki backup or so [00:11] it was when the wiki was very unstable recently [00:11] lol valorie [00:11] valorie: did you hear the sound effect? :D [00:11] oh yes [00:11] I had to close the page! [00:12] rickrickrickrick.... [00:12] lol [00:12] good stuff! [00:12] hai YA [00:13] oh, I think a bit of dinner is called for [00:13] bbl [00:18] yofel: the nightly job only does mergers? [00:18] oh, spoke too soon [00:19] it does all mergers, then triggers the wildcard builders that trigger the jobs based on an SCM poll [00:19] oh, so only rebuilds on a SCM? [00:20] as far as I understand it, yes [00:20] that should cut the amount of jobs down a bit [00:23] clivejo: alright I'm free, what can I help you with? :) [00:23] just fixing KCI jobs [00:24] KCI jobs or failures? [00:24] well the failures are in red [00:25] !info php-cli [00:25] php-cli (source: php-defaults (42)): command-line interpreter for the PHP scripting language (default). In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0+42 (yakkety), package size 3 kB, installed size 11 kB [00:26] I mean you said you were fixing jobs [00:26] I don't know what you mean by "jobs" [00:28] so go to yakkety FIX [00:29] on the S column click it twice to show you the "red" jobs [00:29] look into why they are failing and fix [00:30] beware some are fixed, just been in the queue for a while :( [00:30] so check in git to see if they already had fixes pushed [00:34] right, I’m definitely off to bed this time [00:34] good night [02:14] I need sleep o/ [03:02] mm Google Hangouts in Telepathy work now [03:02] no idea why [03:03] I wish someone would pick it up again [03:03] kde telepathy is cool [03:04] it even works locally or it used to, without internet [03:22] locally? [03:23] I wish someone would work on the telegram plugin [03:29] mm fatal: could not read Username for 'https://git.launchpad.net': No such device or address [03:29] same error for breeze and kate [03:29] oh and ark [03:30] says fatal so must be bad [06:06] yofel: now GCC6 arrived and blocks things again, otherwise everything would be set to migrate [07:18] Mirv: Urgh! I can't imagine GCC6 is going to be a quick one either :( [07:39] acheronuk: :( [07:50] good morning :) [08:40] yofel: a lot of these failures are not finding /usr/bin/kpackagetool5, so I think in kpackage's libkf5package5 package, kpackagetool5 that contains that binary needs to be promoted from a recommends to depends? [08:40] if that makes sense [08:40] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kpackage/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_unstable [08:53] yofel: I've committed that change locally, but not pushed, as it potentially affects a lot/most builds [08:55] and I'm still a bit 'scaredy cat' about that sort of thing [09:33] acheronuk: buildds use --no-install-recommends, so that won't help [09:34] yofel: which is why I was saying a depends rather than recommends on that [09:34] yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~acheron/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kpackage/+merge/302127 [09:37] anyway, I'm busy until later this afternoon, so I was just shouting out now [09:37] acheronuk: ok, I totally misread that ^^ [09:37] not that the problem isn't fairly obvious [09:37] acheronuk: but IMO that dep should be on -dev, not the actual lib [09:37] the lib recommending it is ok [09:38] yes, that's why I didn't just push, and put that MP in for now [09:40] yofel: I have to go literally this second, so can't redo that right now. [09:40] np [09:41] so you or anyone, feel free if that is indeed ok to add the dep to the -dev pkg instead [09:41] ok. bye for now :) [09:48] see ya rik :) [09:49] see ya [09:49] Hey Jimarvan o/ [09:49] When you want to go out for a spin on the bikes ? [09:51] hey :) [09:51] I am leaving for holidays on 16th of August [09:51] returning 5th September [09:52] I would love to ride with my new Yamaha Super Tenere Worldcrosser ;) [09:52] (holidays are in Zakynthos, Greece) [09:53] OK that sounds great. How about a Saturday in September, weather permitting of course. 😉 [09:53] Hiyas all [09:54] Hey BluesKaj o/ [09:55] Hi Sick_Rimmit [09:57] or is it IrcsomeBot1 :-) [10:06] Rick I am looking forward to it [10:06] But you MUST come in Cornwall! ;0 [10:06] ;) [10:07] I live 500 meters away from Fistral Beach, you won't regret it hehe [10:21] hey BlueSkaj! [10:21] sorry m8 just saw you xD [10:21] BluesKaj: your nick is awesome [10:22] Hi jimarvan, sounds like you're located in a nice area :-) [10:42] ;) === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [13:39] acheronuk: http://weegie.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/PIM.png [13:40] LOL. I saw that on Neon! [13:43] clivejo: no wonder i'm getting a bit confused with it at times [13:44] notice no kdiagram [13:45] Well did Jonathon generate that from their dependency tree? [13:45] If so, then they are still trying stable and not 16.06, so would not bump up against that [13:45] *16.08 [13:46] true [13:47] they have that fun to come! ;) [13:50] * clivejo is impressed acheronuk is seeing the big picture :) [13:51] o/ [13:53] clivejo: too narrow a focus, and you end up doing the going round in a diminishing circle thing, which ends in something unpleasant... [13:53] hi Simon / tsimonq2 [13:53] hi Rik / acheronuk [13:53] :P [13:55] tsimonq2: are you not on #kde-neon? was just mentioning your QtWebEngine stuff to Jonathon Riddle [13:56] * tsimonq2 runs over there [15:02] Mirv: could you please take a look at this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2016-August/010647.html [15:02] Mirv: I think you could respond better than I could [16:48] tsimonq2: no time to reply now on the list but confirming the bug [16:48] Mirv: great :) [17:04] kdepim in KCI needs a newer version of ktnef, but this is not being tracked as a package in KCI as far as I can see? [17:04] https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ktnef [17:05] good afternnon everyone [17:07] if someone from the council is reading, it would be nice to get any feedback about my proposed range of dates for my membership application, even just one message from one person saying if the dates are ok or not ok would be nice. thanks! [17:07] ahoneycutt ^ [17:08] shoot wrong nick [17:08] ahoneybun ^ [17:08] there :P [17:13] Mm? [17:13] @ahoneybun see what santa_ said on IRC [17:14] ignore my comment on ktnef. found it now I think. duh! [18:24] acheronuk: did I hear you talk about this ? The imported target "KF5::kpackagetool5" references the file "/usr/bin/kpackagetool5" but this file does not exist. [18:24] yep [18:24] should be OK now I think on any fresh builds [18:25] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kpackage/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=1059678deda9761d8de28585c4c76ee862a6d72d [18:26] but while it was not fixed, it broke just about every build on KCI [18:30] I see [18:32] what's up with kjs? [18:32] successful build, but in KCI it's failed... [18:33] some symbols have gone walkies [18:35] the two optional ones are fine, but the other two are suspicious [18:38] also, what's it mean for a package to be unstable? [18:46] can anyone get their head around libkolab [18:46] always confuses the hell outta me [18:46] hmmm. I can have a guess at the commits responsible for those missing kjs symbols, but still not sure about them. [18:53] kdepim-addons built \o/ [18:54] kdepim itself is not so simple [19:07] Yofel: is my container on Linode restored? [19:12] I think kdepim may another one with some new unpackaged libraries :/ [19:30] yofel: if ok to override plasma-workspace too, please tell slangasek on release channel. they are taking ages and timeouting or such, again maybe last blocker though http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/yakkety/update_excuses.html#plasma-workspace [19:49] tsimonq2: unstable means there were warnings (mostly from lintian) [19:49] lintian in yakkety being buggy does not help... [19:49] O_o [19:50] how buggy? [19:52] tsimonq2: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=829545 [19:52] Debian bug 829545 in lintian "lintian: [PATCH] Do not complain about new Testsuite-Triggers in dsc." [Normal,Open] [19:54] clivejo, Clifford: yes, your linode should work [19:55] yofel: how did Jon allow me to log in with him on AWS? [19:55] where we could both see what was going on [19:56] use a byobu/tmux session using the same user [19:56] s/byobu\/tmux/tmux/g :P [19:56] well, I recommend byobu, but you can just use tmux [19:57] is it installed? [19:57] should be [19:57] also are you finished with the staging PPA's? [19:58] fw and plasma for yakkety, yes [19:58] I was going to klear them [19:58] don't clear xenial [19:58] for yakkety, go ahead [19:59] and start work on backporting the official Qt5.6.1 packages in YY to XX [19:59] then backport FW and Plasma on top of that [19:59] hm... ok [19:59] sounds resonable [19:59] oh, you happy enough using the test builds? [20:00] not for publishing, so you might as well do it your way. It is cleaner than what I had in mind [20:20] yofel: was kubuntu-dev-tools moved to git? [20:21] no [20:21] or is it still bzr [20:24] yofel: Im I OK to totally klear staging-frameworks? [20:25] clivejo: yes [20:25] rebuild the stack from stratch [20:25] * yofel goes breaking firefox [20:32] meh, e10 still doesn't work for me :( [20:49] yofel: what flag do you use to get dput to unpack everything for you? [20:49] -x ? === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest47235 === Guest47235 is now known as pavlushka [20:55] clivejo: hmm? maybe you mean dpkg-source? [20:56] when I grab a LP .dsc [20:56] dget -x [20:56] ah [20:56] dget [20:56] not dput [20:56] you can do dpkg-source -x .dsc [20:57] santa_: do you know the version number we should use for backported package? [20:58] clivejo: nope I didn't worked on backports (yet) [20:58] but I guess you can figure that out on previous backports branchs [20:58] qtbase-opensource-src (5.6.1+dfsg-3ubuntu1~4) yakkety; urgency=medium [20:59] oh, you are trying to backport qt [20:59] yes [21:00] not sure then, Mirv, if you have a minute ↑ [21:00] Rik done some test packages for Xenial, but I want to backport the official ones now in Yakkety [21:01] clivejo: note that backporting qt would mean rebuilding a bunch of packages, not sure how this works on ubuntu [21:01] we would only be backporting to our PPA [21:01] it cant/wont be going in the archive [21:03] then I think the thing to do would be using the usual prefixes for ppas. but I can't promise you that [21:15] santa_: when you debuild -S how do I tell it not to sign? [21:15] clivejo: don't pass -S [21:15] wait no sorry [21:15] * tsimonq2 mistaked signing and source package [21:17] clivejo: "-us -uc" [21:17] i.e "debuild -us -uc -S" [21:20] grrr [21:20] why oh why oh why [21:22] it wants to sign the package Ubuntu Developers [21:22] why? [21:23] aren't you passing -us -uc already? [21:23] I passed those and it didnt sign [21:23] anyway, are you building this for yourself or what? [21:24] for backports [21:24] for the ppa [21:24] backports-ppa yes [21:24] doesn't require that that you sign the package? [21:24] yes [21:25] anyway, why don't you try git-buildpackage-ppa? [21:25] cause its not in our git? [21:25] hmm [21:26] but that shouldn't be a problem, let me check [21:27] nevermind, I got it signed [21:28] grrrr [21:28] I hate working remotely [21:30] ah, yes gbp-ppa is not appropiate for this [21:30] I guess the thing here would be adding a changelog entry [21:31] I did [21:31] Ive remote signed it now [21:31] and forced the dput with -u [21:32] I just cant remember switches/options [21:32] but if you have it signed, you don't need the -u I think [21:32] Jonathan taught me how to do all this, but that was over a year ago [21:32] I do, cause it fails [21:33] I debsign -r [21:33] the have to force the upload with dput -u [21:34] I never signed remotely, but seems weird [21:34] anyway, does it work? [21:36] clivejo: dget -x right, also -u if you don't have the signing key of the uploader [21:37] thanks yofel, finally worked it out [22:24] 10 down, 7 more to go [22:25] clivejo: whatcha workin on? :) [22:25] backporting the official yakkety builds of Qt5.6.1 [22:25] ooh can I help? [22:27] clivejo: anything I can do? [22:27] dont think so at the moment [22:27] Im doing it remotely on Linode container [22:27] alright [22:28] you could tell LP to hurry the *beep* up [22:28] ah. that is what you planned [22:28] Mm blue mint Linux thinks I'm a dev XD [22:28] hic [22:29] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/LZydv2nd/file_63.jpg Screenshot (Aug 5, 2016 6:29:06 PM) [22:29] LOL yeah, was hoping to pass my knowledge of remote working to you :P [22:30] well, we do have a wide interpretation of "developer" [22:30] turns out I lost most of that knowledge [22:30] yay for my WiFi restarting every 5 minutes like clockwork :(( [22:30] that's painful :( [22:31] thank god my IRC setup is on a sheel [22:31] *shell [22:32] clivejo: I can try that another day. Was meaning to ask to test that sort of thing in a container, since it'll be better to get the hang of it before I actually really need it [22:33] I learnt how to package in a container [22:33] I think tonight when I go to bed I'm just going to unplug the router and let it sit overnight, maybe that will help clear things up [22:33] with Jon watching me make silly mistakes [22:33] clivejo: \o/ [22:33] that man must have patients of a saint [22:34] or was just sitting laughing at me [22:34] * tsimonq2 is tempted to correct clivejo's spelling but decides not to :P [22:34] not usre I would have wanted to start like that! [22:35] *sure [22:35] * clivejo gives Simon a dirty look [22:35] any of QT built yet? [22:35] it makes it easier for people to help you though, as they don't have to rely on you properly passing your issues to them [22:36] true [22:37] and even just sitting and watching how an expert solves the problem [22:37] you pick up tips and tricks [22:37] point taken [22:37] would love to shadow yofels screen for a month! [22:38] I've only known a 4:3 display, that's all the monitors I've ever had, can we switch monitors? [22:38] screw monitoring each other :P [22:38] I am not sure that learning my way of working around limitations with lots of ad-hoc bash scripting is something people want to learn ^^ [22:38] 4:3? [22:39] Wow I've 16:9 for a while now [22:40] argh come on IRC, froze again [22:40] I hat my internet connection [22:40] *hate [22:40] * yofel has 2 functioning 4:3 screens in the house, not particulary used much [22:40] Oh they linked my blog [22:42] must be about 5 years ago I got rid of my last 4:3 monitor [22:44] like I said, my home computer has never had a 16:9 monitor ever [22:44] just like I don't have a mechanical keyboard or a nice mouse [22:45] peripherals are the only thing I haven't upgraded yet that need it baaaaad [22:45] I have a cheap Logitech mouse [22:45] I have a cheap Dell keyboard and mouse [22:46] heck, I'm even getting an upgrade on my phone [22:46] certainly not got anything fancy here either [22:46] computer peripherals need an upgrade [22:50] clivejo: did you read the README.source in the qtbase packaging? [22:50] acheronuk: no? [22:50] so you didn't bootstrap the docs packages? [22:51] https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/tree/debian/README.source [22:51] Im just backporting whats in yakkety [22:52] with all the ubuntu patches and stuff applied [22:52] that may not work without the bootstrap, but shall see [23:01] yofel: how could I get access to that Linode container available to ninjas that Rick Timmis was talking about? [23:01] by giving me a minute [23:03] yofel: while you are there...... [23:04] yofel: thanks :) [23:05] tsimonq2: ssh -p 2202 ubuntu@dev.kubuntu.co.uk [23:06] thanks a lot! [23:06] I could do with at least trying to do some things on a container, so when I really NEED it I don't have to fumble about [23:06] yofel: can I upgrade to Yakkety? [23:07] lol [23:07] tsimonq2: well, you can try it [23:07] "should" work [23:09] yofel: I had to fix /etc/hosts thankyouverymuch :P [23:09] lol [23:09] :P [23:10] oooo, a green [23:10] yofel: so I would use the same but a different port? [23:10] acheronuk: ssh -p 2203 ubuntu@dev.kubuntu.co.uk [23:10] nice to see that showing up again [23:10] aha. that answered that! [23:11] yofel: is this a temporary throwaway that I have to give back when I'm done, or is this something I use over and over? [23:11] tsimonq2: it'll stay running [23:12] yofel: but it's not like you'll give it to clivejo next? if not, I'll get my .vimrc and git config settings and all of that on there [23:13] (not that I have a problem with clivejo, just wondering if other people have to use it :P) [23:13] tsimonq2: no, I can technically create another 250 or so containers, so that one is for you [23:13] yofel: great. thank you. I shall take a proper look and try some things tomorrow :D [23:14] yofel: great, thanks a lot :) [23:14] probably more limiting than the IP numbers is the disk space, but this is thin-lvm, so it really depends on how much people end up using [23:16] (lv size is 250G) [23:16] \o/ I'm in Yakkety! [23:17] straight into byobu as well [23:17] Nice to see the linode is being used well [23:17] Thanks yofel [23:17] * acheronuk tries to remember the shortcuts for that [23:17] @ahoneybun already upgraded mine to Yakkety :P [23:18] I know [23:29] * tsimonq2 laughs at the README [23:29] y'all know I use sbuild :P [23:32] really? [23:32] never heard you say that [23:33] clivejo: you being sarcastic? if so, I'll start correcting your spelling :P [23:33] me sarcastic? Never! [23:34] * tsimonq2 watches clivejo closely for spelling mistakes :P [23:35] you should be on the docs team! [23:35] write up a packaging guide :o) [23:39] clivejo: I'm in the LibreOffice documentation team and in the Lubuntu documentation team. :P [23:43] what's this "dpkg-mergechangelogs" thing? [23:49] how do I get rid of that thing that shows after I run a command? it's annoying