[00:00] <brenda_> demetris, there is a lot of issues with that specific laptop hardware and Linux
[00:00] <demetris> i only need to fix my reboot issue
[00:01] <loganrun> don't understand how the system can just boot up read only
[00:01] <loganrun> that makes no sense
[00:01] <loganrun> what controls that
[00:01] <brenda_> demetris, ok.
[00:07] <loganrun> here is the boot log for my system:http://pastebin.com/gcQHj5WZ
[00:07] <loganrun> as I said it end up in read only mode, which makes no sense. If I remount the drive manually that does work fine so not sure what is going on
[00:07] <loganrun> this happened right after doing a system upgrade
[00:12] <flawless> hello
[00:13] <hggdh> loganrun: I see no disk error in your dmseg
[00:14] <loganrun> thanks for looking, did you see my previous messeage with the systemctrl log showing which services didn't start
[00:14] <loganrun> I wonder if it is a problem with grub
[00:16] <cablecoder> tried everything I can think of to get a usb device registered to a usb3 hub on 16.04
[00:16] <cablecoder> not working
[00:16] <hggdh> loganrun: perhaps something will be shown in journactl
[00:17] <loganrun> hggdh, the first red stuff I see is  systemd-tmpfiles[2126]: symlink(../proc/self/mounts, /etc/mtab) failed: Read-only file system
[00:18] <loganrun> systemd-udevd[1012]: Process '/lib/udev/hdparm' failed with exit code 5. (this isn't red though)
[00:20] <cablecoder> lsusb -t recognizes a usb 3 bus, and the device that is connected, but the device connects under a usb 2 bus everytime
[00:21] <loganrun> hggdh, any idea if that means anything
[00:23] <JFlash> hi, I'm back!
[00:23] <JFlash> I got someone in #networking to help me
[00:23] <loganrun> found something that says to for me to do ln -fs /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab
[00:24] <loganrun> not sure if that is safe or not
[00:24] <JFlash> now he says that I donly need a way to find out how to fix ipv4 domain resolution
[00:24] <JFlash> can anyone help?
[00:27] <loganrun> if anybody is running ubuntu 16.04 can you tell me if the file /proc/self/mounts is a symlink or an actual file
[00:28] <nacc> loganrun: it's a file, afaict, 'regular empty file' per stat
[00:28] <loganrun> ok thanks for checking
[00:28] <nacc> loganrun: /etc/mtab is a symlink to that typically
[00:28] <loganrun> getting: systemd-tmpfiles[2126]: symlink(../proc/self/mounts, /etc/mtab) failed: Read-only file system
[00:28] <loganrun> not sure what that means
[00:28] <nacc> loganrun: during boot?
[00:28] <loganrun> yes I think
[00:29] <MAAX> hello guys
[00:29] <loganrun> journalctl shows it
[00:29] <brenda_> demetris, update to the latest BIOS
[00:29] <MAAX> Site hackleme olan var mi
[00:29] <loganrun> wonder what will happen if  I just make it a symlink
[00:29] <dax> loganrun: that ln command is fine
[00:29] <MAAX> site hacked how
[00:30] <dax> MAAX: Ubuntu support only in here. We don't help with hacking.
[00:30] <MAAX> yes
[00:31] <tikun> I have a pretty low end HP AIO and Ubuntu doesn't seem to work well at all with the UEFI
[00:32] <tikun> have it enabled/disabled it just won't boot, no operating system found
[00:32] <tikun> Other Linux distros work such as CentOS or OpenSUSE
[00:32] <gueriLLaPunK> i ceatead a user via useradd -m <username> but it didnt ask me to create a pw for it
[00:32] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i make a passwd for that user?
[00:32] <tikun> just type passwd username
[00:32] <brenda_> Test putting acpi=off in the kernel line in your bootloader configuration file, this is not a solution just a way for you trying to identify what us causing your problem. Change it back after you are done testing.
[00:33] <gueriLLaPunK> tikun,
[00:33] <gueriLLaPunK> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for xxxxxx
[00:33] <gueriLLaPunK> nevermind
[00:34] <gueriLLaPunK> yeah, i tried switching to the new user and i did passwd and it asked for the current password
[00:35] <gueriLLaPunK> bujt if i do sudio -iu <user> then i can 'excute' cmds as that user, but i cant view or change current pw
[00:36] <brenda_> demetris, you may find that the only way to solve your problem is to find a special kernel for your laptop, if that does not work your last resource is to build your kernel.
[00:37] <MisterMom> hey all,  do LTS releases use the same repos as all the other releases ?
[00:38] <lordcirth> MisterMom, each release uses it's own set of repos, regardless of LTS
[00:38] <nacc> MisterMom: what do you mean? each release has its own repo area
[00:39] <brenda_> demetris, there are some way around your problem. Tip: Search for different ways to reboot Linux.
[00:39] <lordcirth> LTS repos just get maintained longer
[00:39] <MisterMom> nacc: im trying to figure out why so many of my favorite packages are missing in 16.04
[00:39] <nacc> MisterMom: define favorite?
[00:39] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, 'sudo passwd user' - root is never prompted for current password
[00:40] <gueriLLaPunK> thgank u, lordcirth :D
[00:40] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, np.  Hint in general:  root can do anything, no questions asked.
[00:41] <MisterMom> nacc:  ok I can not find any blogging clients for anything other than KDE which I am not using
[00:41] <nacc> MisterMom: what did you use before?
[00:41] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks again :) i wasnt logged in as root when i made the new user
[00:41] <MisterMom> nacc:  drivel
[00:42] <nacc> MisterMom: drivel hasn't been packaged since trusty
[00:43] <saibotgerris> ?
[00:43] <nacc> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drivel/+publishinghistory, Debian Bug #742348, it went unmaintained
[00:43] <brenda_> Hi! Is there any way one can get Firefox or Chromium to play Youtube videos as resource effective as mpv?
[00:43] <bazhang> !info mpv | brenda_
[00:43] <MisterMom> nacc:  problem for me is if i install one of the clients for kde it wants to install about 50 more other packeges mostly kde stuff and im not sure i want to do that
[00:44] <lordcirth> bazhang, how does that help?
[00:44] <bazhang> perhaps you meant mp4
[00:44] <lordcirth> bazhang, no, pretty sure he means what he said.  He asked this question earlier.
[00:44] <nacc> MisterMom: well, as it should, if you're asking it to install a kde client. So you've mentioned one package so far, it's unmaintained (upstream & in debian) and now dead. Do you have others?
[00:44] <MisterMom> nacc:  im using xubuntu
[00:44] <bazhang> lordcirth, otherwise the question does not make much sense, thats what
[00:44] <lordcirth> brenda_, are you opted in to the HTML5 trial?
[00:45] <brenda_> I want my browser to be as light on resources as mpv
[00:45] <lordcirth> bazhang, it makes perfect sense.  mpv plays youtube videos with low resource usage, while browsers use a ton to play the same video.
[00:45] <bazhang> lordcirth, mp4 is no longer a trial
[00:45] <MisterMom> nacc:  yes but there names escape me at the moment and im not on my computer
[00:45] <brenda_> lordcirth, I user html5 yes
[00:45] <lordcirth> bazhang, just checked, you are right.
[00:45] <brenda_> lordcirth, I use html5 yes
[00:46] <nacc> MisterMom: it's hard for me to help you out; there are always case of packages going away between releases. Particularly (I would think) between LTS releases, where in 2 years, many OSS projects may die/change/rename/etc
[00:46] <bazhang> brenda_, mpv is barely a gui, no browser will match that
[00:46] <MisterMom> nacc:  i guess i will keep looking around for somthing
[00:47] <MisterMom> nacc:  i know and i apreaciate any help at all
[00:47] <brenda_> bazhang, mpv is not a gui (as i understand it)
[00:47] <bazhang> brenda_, mpv can in fact be used as a backend for smplayer and the like
[00:47] <lordcirth> bazhang, it's not just the extra stuff the browser happens to be doing.  browser youtube cpu is much greater than browser idle + mpv video cpu
[00:47] <MisterMom> nacc:  i will find somthing eventually
[00:47] <nacc> MisterMom: for blogging, apt-cache shows me : blogilo, choqok, hotot
[00:48] <brenda_> baz, why cant a browser match mpv (kodi, vlc etc)?
[00:48] <nacc> MisterMom: there are probably others, just my casual grepping
[00:48] <bazhang> brenda_, which browser did you imagine could manage that
[00:48] <MisterMom> nacc:  hotot is more im and twitter and the other two are kde, i already looked at them
[00:49] <nacc> MisterMom: there is also qtm?
[00:49] <brenda_> bazhang, any browser on Linux should. As the do on Windows.
[00:50] <bazhang> brenda_, which browser, underlying OS is not an issue here
[00:50] <bazhang> !find blogfire
[00:51] <lordcirth> brenda_, are you sure that the same browser, on the same computer, is faster on Windows?
[00:51] <MisterMom> nacc:  no worrys im gona get back on my computer in a while and i will look some more then
[00:51] <bazhang> MisterMom, what was your go to bloggin software prior
[00:51] <brenda_> bazhang, the OS is def. an issue
[00:52] <brenda_> lordcirth, abs. sure
[00:52] <lordcirth> brenda_, what graphics card & drivers are you using?
[00:52] <MisterMom> bazhang: drivel
[00:52] <brenda_> lordcirth, playing youtube videos
[00:52] <bazhang> MisterMom, have you checked for a PPA build of drivel
[00:53] <MisterMom> have to get off this computer now thanks all
[00:53] <lordcirth> brenda_, GPU and driver?
[00:53] <nacc> bazhang: well, even that, I wouldn't recommend; drivel is dead (afaict) upstream maintainer requested its deletion from debian around utopic
[00:54] <bazhang> nacc true, but he/she seems to love it
[00:55] <brenda_> lordcirth, I have an CPU load of 80-100% in the browser (Linux). 20% with mpv. And 20% with the same browser in Windows.
[00:55] <thallada> I tried upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 and then 16.04 but everything seemed broken. Is this possible or should I give up and start from scratch with 16.04?
[00:55] <bazhang> I'd have thought blogfire was still a thing as well, so I am out of the loop on the bloggin scene
[00:55] <lordcirth> brenda_, Interesting but not what I asked.  What GPU and graphics driver are you using?
[00:55] <bazhang> thallada, 'seemed broken', what does that entrail exactly
[00:57] <gueriLLaPunK> i added a user to the sudoers file, but it still doesn't have permissions to install this .sh script
[00:57] <thallada> bazhang: it was a while ago so I don't remember exactly. I was just wondering if I just screwed something up or if it's actually not trivial.
[00:58] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, I bet the script isn't set to be executable.  chmod -x script.sh
[00:58] <bazhang> thallada, could be that since they are end of life, that you hit no updates available issue
[00:58] <brenda_> lordcirth, Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) CherryView - 1.7.0
[00:59] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, trying to execute something that's not an executable will return Permission Denied, regardless of user
[01:00] <gueriLLaPunK> lord4163_, i did what u said and it now saws the command is not found when i tried to execute it
[01:01] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, are you sure it's saying that your 'script.sh' isn't found?  Might be a command the script tries to run
[01:01] <lordcirth> brenda_, what little info I can find on the i965 driver is that it has poor performance and Intel hasn't done anything about it.
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> here is what im setting, lord4163_
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> err lordcirth
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> http://pastie.org/10930384#23
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1301717
[01:03] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, are you sure you need to run it as root?  Steam shouldn't normally.
[01:03] <gueriLLaPunK> if i try to execute the script, it says permission denied
[01:03] <gueriLLaPunK> bash: ./steamcmd.sh: Permission denied
[01:04] <gueriLLaPunK> following this guide, lordcirth
[01:04] <gueriLLaPunK> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD#Linux
[01:04] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, run 'ls -l steamcmd.sh' to see it's permissions
[01:04] <brenda_> lordcirth, so it is the drivers fault that it works excelent with mpv, kodi, vlc (youtube hd and movies) but not with the browsers?
[01:05] <lordcirth> brenda_, I don't know.
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK> -rwxrw-r-- 1 guerillapunk sshdusers 880 Feb  5  2013 steamcmd.sh
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK> i made a new user, steam, and i thought i gave it sudo
[01:05] <tikun> damn internet
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK> used https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-sudo-user-on-ubuntu-quickstart
[01:05] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, the guide you linked literally says: "In any case, do not run it as root, which can cause a serious security risk!"
[01:05] <tikun> sorry, I asked in here about UEFI and my desktop not wanting to let Ubuntu boot
[01:06] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, so remove steam from /etc/sudoers
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> ah i see what ur saying
[01:07] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, are you trying to execute the script as "guerillapunk" or "steam" user?
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> as steam
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> im going to do it as gueriLLaPunK now
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> i just wanted to make a user just for steam
[01:08] <brenda_> tikun, do you wish to install Ubuntu on a machine with UEFI?
[01:08] <gueriLLaPunK> ok so i excuted the cmd as guerillapunk and still the same fatal error when installing
[01:08] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, reading the guide, I think you are supposed to set the steamcmd files to be owned by "steam" and then su to "steam" to manage it.  However, the library problem is separate
[01:10] <tikun> brenda_, I've tried, with secureboot disabled it says no OS found
[01:10] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, if you put all the related files into /home/steam, and chmod o+rw the directory, that might solve the libsteam.so problem, according to the ticket you linked
[01:10] <tikun> with it enabled, no OS found
[01:11] <tikun> the only two Linux distros I ahve found that work
[01:11] <tikun> are CentOS and OpenSUSE
[01:11] <gueriLLaPunK> yes the dir is correct
[01:11] <lordcirth> tikun, have you tried setting BIOS to Legacy?
[01:11] <tikun> it's a cheap POS desktop
[01:11] <tikun> doesn't have that feature
[01:11] <lordcirth> I see.
[01:11] <tikun> probably just shouldn't even bother to keep trying
[01:12] <brenda_> tikun, I have installed Ubuntu on my machine wiht UEFI
[01:12] <tikun> although my HP Stream 11 laptop installed it perfectly fine. This HP AIO won't.
[01:12] <tikun> the HP stream is UEFI too
[01:12] <tikun> I've done this before on other computers
[01:12] <tikun> I just think this UEFI/BIOS is garbage
[01:13] <tikun> it won't even let me enable legacy booting, keeps saying to disable secure boot and the damn thing is disabled.
[01:13] <gueriLLaPunK> i did the chmod to both /steam and /steam/steamcmd dirs
[01:13] <gueriLLaPunK> still same error
[01:13] <gueriLLaPunK> and im still logged in as guerillapunk
[01:14] <brenda_> tikun, installing from USB?
[01:14] <tikun> tried USB and CD
[01:15] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, make sure all the steamcmd files are in /home/steam, owned by 'steam', then su to 'steam' user and run it
[01:16] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i check the owner?
[01:16] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, still 'ls -l'
[01:17] <brenda_> tikun, are you sure it is an Ubuntu UEFI install?
[01:17] <tikun> I am
[01:17] <gueriLLaPunK> drwxr-xr-x 2 steam root  4096 Aug  5 03:01 Steam
[01:17] <gueriLLaPunK> drwxr-xrwx 4 steam steam 4096 Aug  5 03:15 steamcmd
[01:18] <brenda_> tikun, and SUSE and CentOS work???
[01:18] <tikun> they do
[01:18] <tikun> they've added the keys to the UEFI
[01:18] <tikun> and all
[01:18] <tikun> boot fine, I just don't like either distro
[01:18] <brenda_> tikun, strange!
[01:18] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, and does it work?
[01:19] <lordcirth> tikun, you said doesn't work with Secure Boot off either, didn't you?  So it's not the keys.
[01:19] <gueriLLaPunK> no, lordcirth :\
[01:19] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, libsteam.so error?
[01:20] <gueriLLaPunK> yes
[01:20] <gueriLLaPunK> and even as root i get the same error
[01:20] <gueriLLaPunK> hmm
[01:20] <tikun> lordcirth, not sure why I'm even bothering with this POS desktop
[01:20] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, see comment #2 on the bug report.  chmod'ing /home/steam may work
[01:20] <JFlash> sorry guys, i pasted this before but I did not check for answers
[01:21] <JFlash> doesn anyone know how to fix ipv4 issues?
[01:21] <brenda_> tikun, are you sure CentOS and Suse are UEFI installs?
[01:21] <G2Ntl3> 1
[01:21] <lordcirth> JFlash, there are logs you can search for answers
[01:21] <tikun> yes I am positive
[01:21] <JFlash> pasted = posted
[01:21] <JFlash> lordcirth, ok looking at logs now
[01:21] <G2Ntl3> chech the .target files
[01:22] <G2Ntl3> systemctl -a | grep ipv4
[01:22] <G2Ntl3> whts the sdtout ?
[01:22] <JFlash> I dont think anybody aswer
[01:23] <JFlash> I'd look for a fix myself but most websites do not even load
[01:23] <JFlash> only ipv6 websites load
[01:23] <lordcirth> JFlash, well, if that's what you asked, it's too vague to answer
[01:23] <JFlash> lordcirth, what other information do you need ?
[01:23] <lordcirth> JFlash, do you have another device on the same network?  Does it work?
[01:23] <JFlash> yes, 2 other and they do work
[01:24] <sparkix> hi
[01:24] <lordcirth> JFlash, Ubuntu 16.04?  Fresh install?
[01:24] <JFlash> lordcirth, this has happned a couple of times before bt2
[01:24] <JFlash> btw*
[01:24] <brenda_> tikun, I do not understand why it accept one UEFI install and not another. On my machine I have installed many diferent linux distributions with UEFI (even wuth secure boot)
[01:24] <JFlash> lordcirth, unfortunately i do not remember how to fix it
[01:24] <b-yeezi> Hi all. Is there a snapcraft-specific channel?
[01:25] <JFlash> lordcirth, no, 15.10 cannot upgrade now due to slow connection
[01:25] <tikun> brenda: CentOS & OpenSUSE installed w/ secure boot. Debian, Ubuntu wouldn't with it on or off.
[01:25] <lordcirth> JFlash, was it installed as 15.10 or upgraded?
[01:27] <brenda_> tikun, can it be something to do with 32/64 bit? All of the installs you tried are 64bit?
[01:27] <G2Ntl3> maybw
[01:28] <brenda_> t9i9
[01:28] <lordcirth> JFlash, I think G2Ntl3's messages were directed to you, you should try them
[01:29] <brenda_> tikun, my BIOS have issues with 32bit OS
[01:29] <G2Ntl3> JFlash what kernel module are loaded on boot ?
[01:31] <G2Ntl3> Jflash r u on a unix box?
[01:31] <G2Ntl3> what does a hostname -i output
[01:32] <tikun> brenda_, I'm only using 64bit
[01:33] <JFlash> sorry guys
[01:33] <JFlash> i sec
[01:35] <G2Ntl3> well looks like something we cant help you fic
[01:35] <JFlash> back
[01:35] <JFlash> sorry someone else was helping
[01:35] <G2Ntl3> k tyt
[01:35] <JFlash> how can i tell the kernel module?
[01:36] <JFlash> i am on a lg laptop that i removed windows and put ubuntu in it
[01:37] <JFlash> worked fine but today i used some other connections at work and the networking of the machine must have gotten confused with all the changes
[01:37] <sturm_> uname -a
[01:38] <G2Ntl3> uname -r
[01:39] <G2Ntl3> have to ttyl
[01:39] <JFlash> np
[01:39] <JFlash> thank you anyway
[01:39] <JFlash> 4.2.0-42-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 21:26:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:43] <R13ose> How do I speedup the boot time?
[01:44] <x0xD]> R13ose: uninstall what you don't need
[01:46] <Agent> Hi, I was trying to upgrade from Wily to Xenial but it procps breaks it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22258256/
[01:47] <R13ose> x0xD]: okay
[01:47] <squinty> R13ose, just under 15 seconds here with SSD drive.
[01:48] <OerHeks> R13ose, make coffee, that is what i do.
[01:48] <Bashing-om> !info procps
[01:48] <R13ose> OerHeks: what is that?\
[01:49] <x0xD]> stimulant beverage, R13ose
[01:49] <R13ose> ok
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Agent: What returns ' apt-cache policy procps ' in a pastebin .
[01:53] <texla> Upgraded from 14.04.4 to 16.04.1 thru the update system--upon login my screen is 50% darked than normal --relogin 2or3 times brings the screen to normal
[01:54] <Agent> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22259465/
[01:56] <Bashing-om> Agent: Well, the correct version is installed .. maybe see what reutls ' sudo apt install --reinstall procps  ? See if now it will configure .
[01:59] <Agent> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22259934/
[02:01] <Bashing-om> Agent: Ouch ! " Internal Error, No file name for procps:amd64" That blows me away .. that is a required file ! ' sudo apt install procps " ??
[02:03] <Agent> Bashing-om: nope :/, getting the dpkg error
[02:04] <Agent> My system is broken now
[02:04] <Agent> thanks Xenial :(
[02:09] <OerHeks> Agent, boot, hold shift, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run update -f, all should be fine now
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Agent: ^^ OerHeks . Maybe also will work ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt install -fy ' ??
[02:14] <OerHeks> do that dpkg configure first.
[02:14] <OerHeks> do't clean, for now
[02:14] <OerHeks> c/don't clean, for now
[02:15] <Agent> Getting the same error
[02:15] <Agent> with dpkg configure
[02:15] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, that line is what i harvested sofar.
[02:18] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Not too sure anymore of configure -a ; No longer supported ? see: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721329#15 .
[02:19] <OerHeks> No, it worked yesterday. iirc
[02:19] <OerHeks> configure -all too.
[02:19] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Noted ! thanks for that .
[02:20] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, that is reconfigure
[02:20] <OerHeks> hmm
[02:23] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Uh huh .. I have had my wires crossed before !
[02:24] <meow> ？
[02:28] <kurowa> hi.
[02:28] <kurowa> can I request help?
[02:29] <OerHeks> hi kurowa, ask wait and see
[02:30] <kurowa> ok. how can I check whether a part of my network is blocked or not? my thunderbird and rescuetime app cannot connect to internet, while firefox can.
[02:32] <tatertots> kurowa you already know what tcp and or udp ports you want to investigate?
[02:32] <kurowa> I'm a beginner
[02:32] <kurowa> so no.
[02:35] <kurowa> If there is anything I've to learn first, that's ok, I'd ask what should I learn first.
[02:40] <rypervenche> kurowa: This is your home network and you haven't set up any firewall?
[02:40] <kurowa> yes.
[02:40] <tatertots> kurowa you mentioned thunderbird email
[02:41] <kurowa> yes, I do?
[02:41] <tatertots> did you want to check if your kurowa@isp.provider.com might be blocked?
[02:41] <kurowa> so far what I've done with thunderbird is setting up the email and gnupg.
[02:42] <kurowa> tatertots: I'm not sure I understand?
[02:42] <eelstrebor> i need some help debugging multiple issues with ubuntu 16.04 on a asus gl552vw - one problem is that both lshw and lspci and hwinfo starts but locks up so i don't get to see hardware info
[02:42] <tatertots> see if you can communicate to the email servers that provide you with email, imap/pop ect ect
[02:43] <kurowa> tatertots: so, what I should do is try to log in to the email provider with other applications?
[02:43] <tatertots> I"m sorry i misunderstood, what the actual problem is
[02:44] <kurowa> the problem is some of my applications that needed access to internet cannot access it?
[02:45] <tatertots> is there a particular one that can't access the internet right now?
[02:45] <kurowa> thunderbird and RescueTime.
[02:45] <tatertots> were they both working previously and stopped working?
[02:45] <kurowa> yesterday, yes.
[02:46] <kurowa> I can access the email just fine through mozilla, so I'm a little bit confused.
[02:46] <kurowa> firefox, I mean
[02:46] <tatertots> and you've tried sending a test email ?
[02:46] <kurowa> no, I haven't
[02:47] <kurowa> where should I test it? from thunderbird or firefox?
[02:47] <tatertots> and you've tried having someone send you a test email, which would verify thunderbird/email inbound/outbound
[02:48] <blocky> anyone seen this before or know what it means? invalid video mode specification 'text', booting in blind mode
[02:49] <Hoodedgryphon> Hey
[02:49] <Hoodedgryphon> I have an issue installing ubuntu
[02:49] <kurowa> ok... it seems that the gmail doesn't give me access to the thunderbird. Configured a yahoo email account in thunderbird and it works fine.
[02:50] <Hoodedgryphon> Hello?
[02:50] <kurowa> Hoodedgryphon, the issue is?
[02:50] <OerHeks> blocky did you edit grub and put text in it?
[02:50] <kurowa> tatertots: perhaps there is just something wrong with RescueTime today. Thanks.
[02:50] <Hoodedgryphon> I have a flash drive and I've booted to it.
[02:51] <kurowa> then?
[02:51] <Hoodedgryphon> But when I try to install it wants to install on the flash drive, not the computer.
[02:52] <HoodedGryphon_> Any ideas?
[02:52] <rypervenche> kurowa: Sounds like there may be some connectivity or configuration issues on your end.
[02:52] <kurowa> I think so now.
[02:53] <tatertots> how did you create your flash drive. using dd, unetbootin, startup disk creator integrated into ubuntu ect?
[02:54] <HoodedGryphon_> Rufus
[02:54] <HoodedGryphon_> as recommended
[02:54] <PTS> Is there any way to make sure that my computer doesn't go idle or to sleep when I am watching a movie?
[02:54] <PTS> I want it to go idle every 30 minutes, unless I am watching a movie.
[02:55] <tatertots> have you tried a different iso / media?
[02:55] <HoodedGryphon_> Not yet
[02:55] <HoodedGryphon_> I got the iso from the website
[02:56] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[02:56] <rypervenche> kurowa: I would check the logs from both programs. I don't use either, so I don't know where the debug information can be found, but maybe Google or someone here will know.
[02:58] <rfleming> Greetings!
[02:58] <SniperX> hello world
[02:58] <rfleming> Hello back
[02:58] <HoodedGryphon_> the os seems to work fine, it's just a kink in the installer AFAICT
[02:59] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon_, we need more details, what is on that hdd, mbr/gpt, UEFI bios perhaps?
[03:00] <HoodedGryphon_> win10 on a 256gb SSD
[03:00] <HoodedGryphon_> I made a 40gb partition for ubuntu
[03:00] <rfleming> I've some strange desktop icon label/drop-shadow mismatch thing happening in xfce4; looks like this: https://ibin.co/2qTQ1Md6y4Ml.png
[03:00] <rfleming> anyone with any ideas?
[03:00] <HoodedGryphon_> but i can't access it
[03:00] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, 1. Did you format it?  2. Is it mounted?
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, this through the installer?
[03:01] <OerHeks> made a 40 gb partiton and formatted? or did you leave it empty?
[03:01] <HoodedGryphon_> I didn't do anything but create the partition
[03:01] <HoodedGryphon_> just left it empty
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, where did you create the partition?
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, and where are you trying to access the partition?
[03:01] <HoodedGryphon_> on the SSD
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, Did you create it on Windows 10?
[03:02] <HoodedGryphon_> I flashed the iso to a usb and I'm running ubuntu off that
[03:02] <HoodedGryphon_> trying to install ubuntu to that partition now
[03:02] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon_, pastebin the output of ' sudo parted -l  '
[03:03] <HoodedGryphon_> http://pastebin.com/gz0kiSc3
[03:03] <HoodedGryphon_> It only sees the flash drive for some reason
[03:03] <OerHeks> :-(
[03:04] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, Delete the partition altogether
[03:04] <rfleming> let the Installer find the empty space
[03:04] <HoodedGryphon_> how
[03:05] <rfleming> same place you created the partition
[03:05] <HoodedGryphon_> It doesn't see any of C:
[03:05] <rfleming> You will have to exit the Ubuntu installer, boot back into Windows and do it the way you are familiar
[03:06] <OerHeks> rfleming, look at that pastebin, no hdd at all
[03:06] <OerHeks> even when windows was installed with bitlocker, it would show.
[03:06] <dm_comp> Hi, I am planning to install ubuntu on my new laptop but i would like to use a usb to load my ubuntu. I have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing which would make this possible, but it has a warning/bug about using a  different partition. will this bug affect me if i use a usb as a place to store my bootloader. it looks like it only affects people that use a different partition not a drive all togehter(usb in 
[03:07] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, can you pastebin the output of lsblk please
[03:08] <HoodedGryphon_> http://pastebin.com/s1hzp6FM
[03:08] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, Yeah... your disk is missing
[03:09] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon_, is your original hdd or hdds configured as hw-raid ?
[03:09] <HoodedGryphon_> idk
[03:09] <HoodedGryphon_> What do you mean by missing?
[03:10] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, I mean, Ubuntu cannot see your hard drive.  That usually means you are missing a driver...
[03:10] <rfleming> ... or your disk is dead
[03:10] <Guest97238> nick name zzizzi
[03:10] <nevil> Forgot the "/"
[03:10] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, do you have another operating system on your computer?
[03:10] <HoodedGryphon_> So...what can I do to tell ubuntu that my disk still exists?
[03:10] <HoodedGryphon_> Yes, it came with win10
[03:11] <name> thanks
[03:11] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, can you still boot into Windows?
[03:11] <HoodedGryphon_> Let's find out
[03:11] <rfleming> gl!
[03:11] <HoodedGryphon_> See you soon!
[03:12] <rfleming> OerHeks, weird.
[03:12] <rfleming> 5 years ago, I could see the installer not seeing the disk...
[03:13] <OerHeks> beats me too, rfleming
[03:13] <HoodedGryphon__> Calling y'all from win10!
[03:13] <HoodedGryphon__> You don't know how relieved I am right now
[03:13] <HoodedGryphon__> Hello?
[03:14] <OerHeks> wb HoodedGryphon__
[03:14] <rfleming> that's good
[03:14] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, what kind of computer you have?
[03:14] <HoodedGryphon__> thx
[03:14] <HoodedGryphon__> dell xps 13
[03:14] <HoodedGryphon__> brand new
[03:15] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/696413/ubuntu-installer-cant-find-any-disk-on-dell-xps-13-9350
[03:15] <OerHeks> uh oh, found that too...
[03:15] <rfleming> From that link: Main problem is that DELL shipped with Windows pre-installed in IDE mode.
[03:15] <HoodedGryphon__> Oh shit
[03:16] <HoodedGryphon__> Yeah so do I have to reinstall windows?
[03:16] <OerHeks> backup data, change bios IDE > AHCI, reinstall windows, and try again
[03:16] <OerHeks> or is someone smart to know how to convert ?
[03:16] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, the second answer may be your answer.  Switch the disk mode.  You'll have to go back and forth in BIOS to change it but you can boot
[03:17] <HoodedGryphon__> Ok I'm kind of new to BIOS-level tricks
[03:17] <rfleming> otherwise, you have to restart from scratch
[03:17] <HoodedGryphon__> How hard/dangerous is this?
[03:17] <dm_comp> in this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing will the Bug #1049549  impact me if i select a usb?
[03:17] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, Third answer is a 'fix': http://www.tenforums.com/drivers-hardware/15006-attn-ssd-owners-enabling-ahci-mode-after-windows-10-installation-5.html
[03:17] <rfleming> Use at your own risk :)
[03:18] <HoodedGryphon__> How dangerous is all this?
[03:18] <rfleming> could make your windows not boot
[03:18] <HoodedGryphon__> shit
[03:18] <rfleming> I'd do the 'start from scratch' route...
[03:18] <rfleming> ... or use an external HDD
[03:19] <OerHeks> I have no confidence in that trick, but worth a try, you can always re-install after that
[03:19] <HoodedGryphon__> So I'd have to go to BIOS
[03:19] <HoodedGryphon__> then format the windows partition from there?
[03:19] <OerHeks> bios > hdd controller > IDE to AHCI
[03:19] <rfleming> Uhh... Do you have recovery media?
[03:19] <rfleming> you might want to start there
[03:20] <HoodedGryphon__> Yeah I do but tbh I'm not sure how to use it
[03:20] <rfleming> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN297924
[03:20] <OerHeks> the XPS13 uses an M.2 NVMe SSD ??
[03:20] <OerHeks> nice
[03:20] <rfleming> You would go into BIOS, and change the disk mode from IDE to AHCI... then boot off the recovery media and do a factory reset
[03:21] <rfleming> that'll wipe everything out in Windows... so make sure you have backups :)
[03:21] <HoodedGryphon__> Well I just got the computer so I'm not losing much
[03:22] <rfleming> Good luck
[03:22] <HoodedGryphon__> Is the advice from tenforums there really so dangerous?
[03:22] <HoodedGryphon__> Reading through, it doesn't *sound* that bad
[03:23] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, well if it doesn't work, you'll most likely have to format and start from scratch
[03:23] <HoodedGryphon__> Well isn't that what I'm doing anyways?
[03:23] <rfleming> I guess.
[03:23] <OerHeks> installing win10 wil be 30 minutes, updating 24 hrs ..
[03:24] <rfleming> OerHeks, that's Win7
[03:24] <rfleming> Win10 updates pretty quick.
[03:25] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, using recovery media is a piece of cake and is the easiest option.
[03:25] <HoodedGryphon__> So I can go with tenforums: Fast, easy, but risks ruining the system and forcing me to format the disk
[03:26] <HoodedGryphon__> or with the other, where I format the disk and then reinstall win10?
[03:26] <fox__> Hello, i have a question about fancontrol in lubuntu. Can anyone help? I'd like to be able to control the temperature and fan speeds on my laptop, since the fans havent been running cold enough since i got linux.
[03:26] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, it's your computer and your decision.
[03:26] <OerHeks> no risc. HoodedGryphon__ , dell should install in AHCI mode, the only risc is dell losing clients in the future
[03:27] <HoodedGryphon__> just want to make sure I understand situation
[03:27] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[03:27] <HoodedGryphon__> Yeah seems like they should
[03:28] <HoodedGryphon__> Is there any way to verify my recovery media?
[03:29] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, only way I know is to boot off of it
[03:29] <rfleming> maybe they have a media check option when you boot in it
[03:30] <HoodedGryphon__> I just want to make sure that it'll actually work before I need it
[03:30] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon__, did you burn it yourself?
[03:30] <HoodedGryphon__> yes
[03:31] <OerHeks> no guarantees, but if burning is 100% succesfull, why doubt ?
[03:31] <rfleming> OerHeks, is lm-sensors enough, or do you need a power manager like tlp
[03:31] <HoodedGryphon__> because my brand new laptop is on the line
[03:31] <rfleming> The only problem with M.2 drives... no one has a bunch lying around to swap in and out
[03:31] <OerHeks> the bios should keep the temp low, if not, clean out the dust
[03:31] <HoodedGryphon__> I'm trying to avoid taking too much risk here
[03:32] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, that would be sticking with Windows :)
[03:32] <HoodedGryphon__> lol yeah but I don't want to be boring
[03:33] <rfleming> although there are risks inherent there as well.
[03:34] <OerHeks> That risc is not our problem, hard but true.
[03:35]  * rfleming ♫♫ Highway tooooo, the danger zone... ♫♫
[03:35] <HoodedGryphon__> Also, is it possible to delete a partition?
[03:35] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, yep.  Just need a partition editor like gparted, or diskpart or fdisk or ...
[03:36] <fox__> okay so i found out how i can see the temperatures, but i cant change the rpm. if i do sudo apt install fancontrol like it says then i get a "temporarily unavailable" error unable to lock the administration directory
[03:36] <HoodedGryphon__> so diskmgmt doesn't cut it?
[03:36] <rfleming> fox__, sounds like you have another instance of the software system running, either via updates, etc.
[03:37] <fox__> rfleming ah i had the software program open, that fixes it thanks
[03:37] <rfleming> fox__, no problem.  Good luck
[03:39] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, no, it's limited to disks it hasn't booted from
[03:39] <rfleming> same with diskpart
[03:39]  * jmpp greets!
[03:39] <rfleming> jmpp, howdy!
[03:39] <jmpp> Not too sure if this is the right place to come for help, but I might as well try just in case
[03:39] <fox__> rfleming okay so lm-sensors and fancontrol are both installed. how do i run it?
[03:39] <jmpp> I have Ubuntu 16 running under VMWare Fusion, and it's been working really nice
[03:40] <jmpp> however, a few days ago I installed a Wifi extender, and I think it coincides that since that day my VM hasn't been able to get an IPv4
[03:40] <rfleming> fox__, best place I can point you is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[03:40] <johnc4510> fox__: in a terminal type:  sensors
[03:41] <jmpp> oddly, it does have an IPv6, but not a v4. And that IPv6 doesn't exactly provide network connectivity, so I'm not sure if it's self-assigned
[03:41] <rfleming> jmpp, sounds like your extender is blocking dhcp
[03:42] <jmpp> I try ifup ens33 and I see several DHCPDISCOVER messages sent to 255.255.255.255, which seems normal...
[03:42] <jmpp> but no responses, and after plenty of attempts, ifup gives up
[03:42] <rfleming> jmpp, yes, but the ACKs are not there
[03:42] <fox__> it doesnt say how i change the rpm though
[03:42] <rfleming> jmpp, and if you remove the extender, do things work again?
[03:43] <jmpp> I've been hestitant to turn it off, because I rely on it, but I guess i'm just gonna have to
[03:43] <rfleming> jmpp, well it's just temporary
[03:43] <jmpp> I was hoping to get some debugging tips that I could try directly from Ubuntu, other than assigning a manual IP
[03:44] <rfleming> if everything works... I'd go into the extender's settings and see what DHCP server settings there are
[03:44] <jmpp> there aren't any DHCP settings, unfortunately
[03:44] <rfleming> jmpp, what extender do you have?
[03:44] <jmpp> it's a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900
[03:45] <rfleming> jmpp, that's a router
[03:46] <jmpp> restarting extender
[03:46] <rfleming> what is the model of your extender?
[03:46] <jmpp> my router, Apple's Airport Extreme, has a DHCP reservation for this VM
[03:46] <Steven_M> Hi all
[03:46] <jmpp> rfleming: nope, it's an extender
[03:47] <jmpp> restarted extender, Ubuntu got an ip after 'ifup ens33'
[03:47] <rfleming> http://www.ca.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-range-extenders/EX7000.aspx ?
[03:47] <rfleming> Howdy Steven_M
[03:48] <Steven_M> rfleming: Hi :)
[03:48] <jmpp> rfleming: yeah, "Hardware Version: EX7000"
[03:48] <jmpp> but it's advertised as "Nighthawk AC1900" :P
[03:48] <rfleming> jmpp, everything working now?
[03:48] <Steven_M> rfleming: How do I over come these dpkg --remove errors?: http://pastebin.com/raw/dAeYv0cg
[03:49] <rfleming> Steven_M, manually delete the directories and try again
[03:49] <jmpp> rfleming: well, as the extender was rebooting I issued "ifup ens33" and the VM did get the IP that my router has reserved for it, so it's pretty clear that the extender is creating some kind of conflict
[03:49] <rfleming> Steven_M, rm -fR /usr/local/Brother should be sufficient
[03:49] <fox__> I get an error when i try to command sudo pmwconfig or just pmwconfig, help. im trying to control my fans
[03:50] <jmpp> was only hoping someone here had a magic bullet, by the tangential fact that only my Ubuntu system is suffering from this ;) because my two OS X machines and two iPhones still get their IP's as usual
[03:50] <rfleming> Steven_M, out of curiousity though, why are you using dpkg to add and remove packages?
[03:51] <vahe> hi, http://paste.debian.net/786986/ where's my wifi ?
[03:52] <rfleming> vahe, not in that pastebin :)
[03:52] <OerHeks> vahe, please don't crosspost
[03:52] <fox__> rfleming do you know why i get a "cant read configuration file" when i do command 'fancontrol' and "command not found" when i do 'sudo pmwconfig' or 'pmwconfig'. im trying to get my fans to work
[03:54] <rfleming> fox__, you probably need to run with sudo
[03:54] <fox__> rfleming you mean 'sudo fancontrol'?
[03:54] <OerHeks> fox what makes you think your fan does not work?
[03:55] <fox__> my sensors command says my cpu is 90 C / 194 F which is really hot. and its suspiciously silent.
[03:56] <Steven_M> rfleming: because I downloaded the package from a 3rd party website, it's not from a repo.
[03:56] <rfleming> Steven_M, manually delete the folders and try dpkg again
[03:57] <Steven_M> rfleming: cool, thanks heaps :)
[03:58] <rfleming> np
[03:59] <jmpp> rfleming: I think I found my problem: https://community.netgear.com/t5/WiFi-Range-Extenders-Repeaters/EX7000-Virtual-MAC-Address-problems/td-p/967186
[04:00] <rfleming> jmpp, Cool!
[04:02] <jmpp> rfleming: only... it doesn't seem to have a solution :/
[04:03] <jmpp> other than tossing out the not too cheap extender and getting another that doesn't play with virtual mac addresses in that way
[04:10] <tatertots> i'm having a slice of pizza
[04:13] <vahe> lost all Wi-Fi where not displayed :(
[04:14] <OerHeks> they sure can help you in #debian, vahe
[04:14] <vahe> MINIPC pcg02u
[04:14] <vahe> UBUNTU 16.06
[04:15] <vahe> I upgraded to 14.04 and found that 16 doesn't support my wifi
[04:16] <vahe> OerHeks: I received they mentioned to ask here
[04:16] <vahe> not clever
[04:16] <OerHeks> seeing those pastebins, there is no wifi
[04:17] <vahe> the same can not evaporate
[04:17] <OerHeks> so a) it broke down, or b) there is windows on the ssd, in fastoot mode, that can prevent seeing wifi
[04:17] <OerHeks> c/fastboot
[04:18] <vahe> no no,this is ubuntu
[04:19] <rfleming> vahe, a laptop?
[04:20] <OerHeks> compustick , like this one http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/04/08/mele-pcg02u-intel-bay-trail-tv-stick-runs-ubuntu-costs-59/
[04:20] <vahe> OerHeks:  yes! :)
[04:21] <vahe> this may device
[04:23] <rfleming> vahe, you will have to go to linuxium.com.au to find drivers
[04:23] <rfleming> or download their latest image
[04:23]  * rfleming shrugs.  This is foreign territory
[04:24] <vahe> have to go back to 14.04
[04:24] <rfleming> No
[04:24] <rfleming> http://www.linuxium.com.au/how-tos
[04:25] <rfleming> there is a section on using upgraded kernels
[04:25] <rfleming> just below the icons for all the ubuntu images
[04:25] <vahe> aha yes
[04:25] <rfleming> vahe, it's on you to find out what works with your specialized hardware
[04:25] <blocky> anyone seen this before or know what it means? invalid video mode specification 'text', booting in blind mode
[04:25] <blocky> is there a list of error codes for grub?
[04:27] <rfleming> that sounds EFI related
[04:27] <vahe> rfleming: can you tell me what should I do? I understand I am new
[04:27] <OerHeks> blocky did you edit grub and put text in it?
[04:28] <blocky> it happened on it's own after an update, i didn't check what i was updating :(
[04:29] <rfleming> vahe, I can't.  You'll have to find some experts.
[04:29] <rfleming> maybe the people over at #linux-rockchip would know.
[04:29] <rfleming> yes, you don't have the same chip, but the same type of device
[04:29] <blocky> skylake desktop, gigabyte mobo
[04:29] <vahe> thanks rfleming
[04:31] <blocky> i can get to recovery mode, drop to root console etc, but updating grub doesn't fix
[04:35] <tatertots> it's cold i'm adding layers
[04:36] <rfleming> OK, night all
[04:36] <blocky> dpkg.log modified 3 days ago, so no record of whatever was attempted this morning
[04:56] <circ-user-7Ckx9> hello
[04:57] <circ-user-7Ckx9> why is everything in ubuntu done in the terminal?
[04:57] <circ-user-7Ckx9> its so confusing
[04:58] <cfhowlett> circ-user-7Ckx9, false and misleading question.  shame.
[04:58] <circ-user-7Ckx9> wheres ur bell?
[04:58] <SwedeMike> circ-user-7Ckx9: well, not everything. But this is the case with all operating systems, if you really want to change things, you have to use the terminal (CLI)
[05:00] <Bashing-om> circ-user-7Ckx9: The terminal is the common demominator across all linux .. whereas GUI differ with each and every one .
[05:02] <tatertots> an impressive amount of things can be accomplished with the GUI also :)
[05:02] <cfhowlett> ... aaaaaaaaand he left.  looks like a drive-by mini-FUD rant.
[05:15] <OerHeks> if vahe comes back, that stick has got a dual chip wifi/bt Realtek RTL8723BS, build instructions can be found here http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/05/26/updating-star-cloud-pcg02u-to-ubuntu-16-04-with-wifi-and-hdmi-audio-support/
[05:21] <draecal> Hello there, anyone using Elementary OS (Ubuntu Based) has managed to connect to a proxy server? Connect nor Set up a server
[05:22] <OerHeks> draecal, elementary has its own issues
[05:22] <OerHeks> !elementary
[05:23] <draecal> Thanks
[05:25] <cluelessperson> Hi all, today I found that Ubuntu is SOMEHOW controlling my keyboard backlight.  Something I in the past attempted to do programmatically myself.  Can someone please help me figure out what's doing it?
[05:29] <coby> ode wrangler node value output blender
[05:29] <coby> node*
[05:29] <cfhowlett> coby, sounds like you need to take it up with the blender channel.
[05:29] <coby> Wow sorry guys, wrong window.
[05:29] <cfhowlett> no worries
[05:29] <coby> Although, I am curious to meet any Blender users here on Ubuntu
[05:30] <coby> Getting better render times on here vs Windows 10
[05:30] <cfhowlett> coby, several I'm sure.  more likely to be found in #ubuntustudio.  consider yourself invited.
[05:31] <coby> And if there are any Blender Node Wranglers, that would be cool. For some reason they don't seem to have a node that outputs numerical values to the compositor view
[05:31] <coby> cfhowlett, thanks
[05:34] <tatertots> 2
[05:45] <cfhowlett> *can I just say ... I LOVE ubuntu*  My main machine sick and in the shop.  I need a daily, portable driver so picked up a Mac Air.  Added Virtual Box, installed Ubuntustudio and all was ALMOST perfect.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> I sneaker carry my print jobs on USB as I do not trust the university computers nor are they usable in English.  For some obscure reason, my USB was unusable more often than not.  I couldn't figure out what / where to initiate a persistent fix.  The darn thing just wasn't usable.  Today, I added a USB filter to virtualbox.  Now, my USB automounts as soon as  I plug in.  Winning!
[05:54] <kalexyco> bonjour
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !fr | kalexyco
[05:55] <meow> (●—●)
[06:08] <hstl> Hi all. Is Lubuntu best choice for old computers among other Ubuntus?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> hstl: Yepper ; Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[06:10] <hstl> Bashing-om, thank you
[06:11] <anirban> Hi!
[06:11] <rattlebattle79> Is there anything negative to say about LXD? I have tested it out now, and I see no reasons to use virtualization like KVM if you only virtualize Linux.
[06:14] <Bashing-om> hstl: :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[06:23] <ducasse> rattlebattle79: one thing is that separation of guests is stronger in full virtual machines than in containers.
[06:23] <OlofL> What is the command to set dhcp on an interface? I don't want to set it at boot via /etc/network/interfaces
[06:24] <orlock> dhclient devicename
[06:24] <OerHeks> OlofL, use networkmanager, be sure that 'all users may connect to this network'is enabled
[06:24] <orlock> with appropriate permissions
[06:25] <OlofL> OerHeks: im only have console atm
[06:27] <OlofL> and how do I a non persistant route?
[06:27] <ducasse> OlofL: you can use nmcli if you want to use network manager
[06:43] <TsakNorris> I need fast connection to other Linux computer, but i don't want ciphers (SSH is too slow and i don
[06:43] <TsakNorris> don't care security now
[06:44] <TsakNorris> i want to play youtube videos with my server
[06:44] <TsakNorris> so arcfour cipher is too heavy
[06:45] <bhuddah> TsakNorris: whatever you think your problem might be it probably is not.
[06:46] <ashik> heii is the network bug fixed in 16.04???
[06:46] <TsakNorris> i just want fast remote connection. In order to use SSH i have to use some kind of cipher. Even the lightest isn't enough light.
[06:46] <hstl> Question: Xubuntu and Linux Mint with Xfce - what is the difference in speed, efficiency? Need to choose for installing on an old computer (Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz, 1Gb RAM).
[06:47] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: ssh supports null cipher if compiled with hpn (high performance) flag
[06:48] <TsakNorris> Triffid_Hunter: hmm. ok, that sound superDuperGood :)
[06:48] <ducasse> ashik: 'the network bug'? you have to be specific.
[06:49] <yoshimitsu_alt>  --- hstl : If you can , use openbox window manager...
[06:49] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: and if you're transferring data rather than logging in and doing terminal stuff, just use netcat (nc command)
[06:49] <Bashing-om> hstl: Are you handy ? .. I run a core install and do have xfce .. some kind of fast !
[06:50] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: wait, you're playing videos? using X-forwarding? why not just transfer the already-compressed video stream over the network eg with ssh -D socks forwarder? (privoxy helps with that route btw)
[06:51] <nikola_i> hi, i am trying to use nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu 16.04 with nvidia 840m. Everything works fine except system wakes up with a black screen after suspend. how do i go about debugging this?
[06:51] <OerHeks> hstl i think mint is slow
[06:52] <TsakNorris> Triffid_Hunter: Ok i do some reading now :) thanks
[06:52] <ducasse> hstl: if you want to get support here, use ubuntu.
[06:52] <hstl> OerHeks, thank you
[06:52] <hstl> ducasse, i don't need support. I just don't have time to install, reinstall it.
[06:52] <OerHeks> nikola_i, check 1. changing to tty1 and back to tty 7, does it show up? ctrl alt F1 > ctrl alt F7
[06:53] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[06:53] <hstl> Compare them and etc.
[06:53] <nikola_i> OerHeks: it doesn't allow me to change ttys
[06:53] <nikola_i> just black screen
[06:53] <hstl> I use Debian + Fluxbox. I need it for other people
[06:53] <OerHeks> hstl, you do that, compae them, t all depends ont he hardware, still i think mint is slower
[06:53] <hstl> OerHeks, ok
[06:54] <yoshimitsu_alt> hstl : the quickiest is salix
[06:55] <ikonia> they are all the same
[06:55] <ikonia> they are all the same disto just configured differently
[06:55] <ikonia> you can get the same performance out of all of them, depending on how you configure them
[06:55] <ikonia> this "quickest" stuff is just not real
[06:56] <yoshimitsu_alt> ok yes just a little bit
[06:56] <ikonia> no, not a little bit
[06:56] <ikonia> at all
[06:57] <OerHeks> hstl, make a chart of each one:   systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[06:57] <OerHeks> but that is just boot
[06:57] <yoshimitsu_alt> i use ubuntu with openbox but salix is quick with xfce has the same speed
[06:57] <ikonia> so pointles
[06:58] <ikonia> yoshimitsu_alt: so basically - a poitnless comment
[06:58] <ikonia> because "they are both the same"
[06:58] <hstl> yoshimitsu_alt, did you use Salix with fluxbox or Openbox?
[06:58] <ikonia> not interested in salix discussion here pleaes
[06:58] <ikonia> ubuntu discussion only
[06:58] <pepetronic> hi
[06:58] <yoshimitsu_alt> oki
[06:58] <hstl> if it is fully preconfigured - it can be very good. I run fluxbox myself. It is very fast
[06:58] <Mrokii> Hello guys. I hava a serious problem with kubuntu, but possibly somebody can still point me to the correct solution...
[06:59] <hstl> ikonia, ok
[06:59] <ikonia> Mrokii: people can' help unless you ask the question/explain the problem
[06:59] <diverdude> Hi, I am trying to mount cifq shares using /etc/fstab.... for some reason nothing is being mounted though. No error message is printed when i try to mount. Is there any way i can display error messages? I have tried with --verbose
[06:59] <Mrokii> After rebooting and trying to log in I got the error message: "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session". Any thoughts?
[06:59] <ikonia> diverdude: do you mean cifs ?
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: I just saw that error in the #kubuntu channel
[07:00] <ikonia> Mrokii: what did you change
[07:00]  * OerHeks is reading same questions in #linux too
[07:00] <Mrokii> ikonia: I'
[07:00] <ikonia> ughhh really
[07:00] <ikonia> cross-posting
[07:00] <diverdude> ikonia, sorry, yes. cifs
[07:00] <ikonia> diverdude: where are you trying to mount it
[07:00] <Mrokii> ikonia: I'm not sure. Nothing essential. Possibly some system-upgrades as I have been running the system for a few days or maybe even weeks.
[07:00] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I thought I
[07:01] <diverdude> ikonia, I am trying to mount to /mnt/A0-Data1
[07:01] <ikonia> diverdude: what happens if you do "sudo mount /mnt/A0-Data1"
[07:01] <ikonia> Mrokii: seems unlikley
[07:01] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I thought I'd ask here as well, as usually in #kubuntu there seems to be far fewer people.
[07:01] <ikonia> Mrokii: an update would not change the startup config like that
[07:01] <ikonia> Mrokii: look in your xsession-errors file
[07:02] <Mrokii> ikonia: Could it be something in one of the .bash* files? Somebody on the net mentioned that he prevented .bashrc from loading, but that didn't help in my case.
[07:02] <ikonia> it should show you it trying to start whatever it's trying to start
[07:02] <Mrokii> ikonia: I'll have a look, one moment.
[07:02] <ikonia> Mrokii: that "he" prevented ?
[07:02] <ikonia> what do you mean by prevented and who is he
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Why would someone tell you to not load the .bashrc?
[07:02] <ikonia> Mrokii: what have you changed
[07:03] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: It's just a suggestion I found on another site.
[07:03] <ikonia> Mrokii: what have you changed exactly
[07:03] <diverdude> ikonia, then it just writes "mount: Operation now in Progress"
[07:04] <ikonia> diverdude: and it just hangs and never returns to a prompt ?
[07:04] <Mrokii> ikonia: Well, the only error message in xsession-errors (besides) the one I mentioned is that some command found in .bash_login couldn't be loaded. Nothing essential, I think it was a script somebody wrote which I included, but I think which I may have deleted. Could that be a problem?
[07:04] <diverdude> ikonia, it does return to prompt
[07:04] <ikonia> Mrokii: what command
[07:04] <ikonia> diverdude: is you go into that directory, what's there
[07:04] <diverdude> ikonia, then its just empty
[07:05] <Mrokii> ikonia: Some script somebody wrote. It's called "today" and I think it loaded and displayed the current date or something like that.
[07:05] <ikonia> Mrokii: "a script" that "someone" wrote - you don't know what it does and you deleted it.....yeah, I think that may have somethin to do with it magically breaking
[07:05] <ikonia> diverdude: can I have a look at the fstab line please ?
[07:05] <diverdude> ikonia, its here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22285276/
[07:05] <Mrokii> ikonia: I can try to comment the line out and try a reboot.
[07:05] <ikonia> Mrokii: what line ?
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Reboot? Or just logout and login again..??
[07:06] <ikonia> diverdude: so my imediate guess is that it can't talk to the server, mount is normally so quick you don't see anything, but you're seeing "mount: Operation now in Progress" means something is slowing it down
[07:07] <ikonia> diverdude: normally something like that is because it's waiting for a response from the server,
[07:07] <ikonia> but normally - you'd get an error if there is no comms at all there
[07:07] <diverdude> ikonia, hmmm yeah you are right...i also cannot ping the server
[07:07] <Mrokii> ikonia: the error message in xsession-errors says that it couldn't find this in ".bash_login": "today: command not found".
[07:08] <ikonia> couldn't find "what"
[07:08] <ikonia> Mrokii: you're not supplying info at all
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Get rid of the line or whatever that is looking for the ".bash_login"
[07:09] <Mrokii> ikonia: the line is like this (translated from German): "/home/my_user_name/.bash_login: Line 310: today: command not found."
[07:09] <OerHeks> diverdude, is uname your valid username ??? username=uname
[07:09] <diverdude> OerHeks, no i just masked the real username
[07:10] <Mrokii> The next line (no error message) is "Xsession: X session started for stephan at ..." (Date is shown).
[07:10] <OerHeks> oke, just wondering
[07:11] <Mrokii> ikonia: And the last line in the xsession_error-file is the error message I mentioned at first, the one with the unsupported number of arguments.
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Is it not easy enough to just go and comment out/remove/delete all that has been done - instead of wasting the energy in trying to put a bandage on it?
[07:12] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Sure it is. I just wasn't sure what was causing the error when I asked. If that line in .bash_login could be a problem I will try that.
[07:13] <OerHeks> meybe you are missing -t filesystemtype before cifs .. not sure about that
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Rename the ".bash_login" to something else - unless you're specifically running bash scrcipts on login...which I highly doubt...
[07:14] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I'll try that and see if it works.
[07:14] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder, ikonia: Thanks for now.
[07:16] <ma__rc> guys, please help me feeling less stupid... why does a dist-upgrade not take me from 16.04.1 to 16.04.5? -.-''
[07:17] <OerHeks> ma__rc, it will .. in a few years
[07:17] <OerHeks> 16.04 is current
[07:17] <OerHeks> c/16.04.1 is current
[07:18] <Mrokii> ikonia, YankDownUnder: It was definitely something in .bash_login. After renaming it, I was able to log in again. Thank you very much.
[07:18] <OerHeks> !pm | ma__rc
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Look through that file and find out what the issue was, mate - and NEVER just randomly let strangers tell you to modify your login, whoa...bad news that, very bad news...
[07:19] <hightech> come to #gotskillz
[07:19] <OerHeks> hightech, please don't spam, thanks
[07:19] <Mrokii> ikonia, YankDownUnder: Although it seems that there are still problems. Kubuntu doesn't load properly. But I'll try a restart and see if that helps anything.
[07:19] <hightech> ok i wont, just come to #gotskillz
[07:20] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: It wasn't a stranger by the way, but a good friend, who isn't available at the moment.
[07:20] <Mrokii> Anyhow, need to reboot. Bye for now.
[07:44] <allamoox> Good morning
[07:46] <hstl> allamoox, hi ^^
[07:46]  * YankDownUnder checks his watch, checks the computer's clock, the clock on the wall, the alarm clock, the clock on the phone
[07:46] <Journalists> How do I access hardware information about my system in Ubuntu?
[07:46] <allamoox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22288068/
[07:47] <allamoox> any one can help me with this "held broken package error"
[07:47] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: Where are you getting the error - are you in the terminal?
[07:48] <allamoox> and this is the sourcelist http://paste.ubuntu.com/22288145/
[07:48] <OerHeks> Journalists, lshw lspci lsusb lscpu dmidecode are tools to view hardware
[07:48] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  Yes...
[07:48] <Journalists> So do I have to install tools to get access to my own hardware information?
[07:48] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: In the terminal, can you type: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update
[07:48] <ikonia> you have mixed your repos
[07:48] <ikonia> you cant mix trusty and xenial
[07:49] <ikonia> you're box is screwed
[07:49] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  doing it..
[07:49] <allamoox> ikonia:  do u think this is the problem?
[07:49] <ikonia> I know it's the poblem
[07:49] <ikonia> you can't mix repos like that
[07:49] <ikonia> you're box is screwed
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: MATE, stop - ikonia stated - cuz he actually looked at your pastbin - that your sources are mixed up
[07:50] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  ok I will ...
[07:50] <OerHeks> Journalists, no, open terminal: lspci
[07:50] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  let me try to edit my source list then upgrade and update
[07:50] <OerHeks> they are all there
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: So then that begs to question - what version of Ubuntu are you running???
[07:50] <ikonia> allamoox: you can't do that
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: the damage is already done
[07:51] <allamoox> ikonia: Damage must be restored
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: you can't just remove the wrong repo and expect it to start working, you've already installed conflicts
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: damage is done
[07:51] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  Description:	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:51] <allamoox> Codename:	xenial
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: why is there trusty repos in there ?
[07:51] <ikonia> if you're running 16.04
[07:51] <ikonia> why is "main" set to trusty
[07:52] <YankDownUnder> Far out...
[07:52] <ikonia> you can't be running 16.04
[07:52] <ikonia> you've got universe on xenial and main on trust
[07:52] <allamoox> ikonia:  which command I need to write then?
[07:52] <allamoox> I tried lsb_release -a
[07:53] <allamoox> and It gave me this
[07:53] <allamoox> OS             : Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:53] <allamoox> Kernel         : 2.6.32-042stab111.12
[07:54] <YankDownUnder> Kerne 2.6? Um...
[07:54] <ducasse> allamoox: do yourself a favor and reinstall
[07:54] <OerHeks> allamoox, that cannot be true. such mix of repos, and strange sources, time to reinstall
[07:54] <allamoox> It has many users.. so I cant risk it
[07:54] <ComMan> people i am trying to navigate to a connected HDD using the temtminal, how can i cd into a USB connected HDD?
[07:54] <somsip> !info libnet-amazon-ec2-perl
[07:54] <Journalists> OerHeks, what does the command you told me do?
[07:55] <allamoox> Can u thiink of any alternative option?
[07:55] <ducasse> allamoox: you can't risk using it either
[07:55] <OerHeks> Journalists, it shows the PCI but, with attached devices
[07:55] <allamoox> but It should be  a solution guys
[07:55] <OerHeks> c/bus
[07:55] <ducasse> allamoox: yes, reinstall
[07:55] <ducasse> allamoox: it's horribly broken
[07:55] <OerHeks> Journalists, see ' man lspci ´
[07:56] <allamoox> ducasse:  but every thing will be gone ... if i reinstalled
[07:56] <OerHeks> allamoox, i don't believe it says 16.04, as you NEVER ever could upgrade to 16.04 with that sourceslist
[07:57] <allamoox> OerHeks:  so how does it say so?
[07:57] <ducasse> allamoox: backup your data first, then reinstall os and applications, restore data.
[07:57] <allamoox> any one interested to have an ssh access and have a look
[07:57] <allamoox> ?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> Journalists, did you get a response yet
[07:58] <djc_> Hi just setting up Ubuntu 14.04 server for the first time. Should an SSH Keys be generated
[07:59] <cfhowlett> djc_, might want to ask the experts:  #ubuntu-server
[07:59] <djc_> thanks
[07:59] <jacks> hi, i heard someone mention a daemon which can negotiate on-the-fly transparent encryption of various networking protocols.. anyone know its name or something similar?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:59] <OerHeks> djc_, pretty guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[08:02] <djc_> I see
[08:03] <allamoox> ducasse:  any good link easy to understand about backup ur files?
[08:03] <allamoox> as im very lost in this errors
[08:03] <ducasse> !backup | allamoox
[08:04] <allamoox> !cloning
[08:10] <sallu> anyone here
[08:10] <sallu> :(
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> It's dinner time...hmm...
[08:10] <ikonia> allamoox: is this a VPS ?
[08:10] <ikonia> allamoox: a vm from some cloud provider
[08:11] <sallu> YankDownUnder, ok
[08:11] <sallu> YankDownUnder, i sent you pm
[08:12] <ducasse> sallu: yes, there are people here. just ask your question.
[08:13] <allamoox> ikonia: its Vps
[08:14] <ikonia> allamoox: ok - need a %100 honest answer here, don't be scared to be honest
[08:14] <ikonia> allamoox: did you try to upgrade this ? did you change the sources.list ?
[08:14] <allamoox> ikonia:  I dont know if any of the admins mess with source.list but Im trying to investigate it
[08:15] <ikonia> allamoox: ok - so the reason I ask this, is because you cannot upgrade this vps
[08:15] <ikonia> allamoox: look at the kernel - it's coming from the hypervisor,
[08:15] <allamoox> ikonia:  Correct I will ask my vps provider why it looks like this
[08:16] <ikonia> that was going to be my next question, is the image they are giving you screwed up
[08:17] <allamoox> ikonia:  No.. it would be a nice one.. but as I told you in the notice im still beginner
[08:17] <allamoox> so I have a bit difficulities investigating the problem
[08:17] <ikonia> allamoox: thats fine, as long as you answer questions honestly we can help
[08:18] <allamoox> ikonia:  I answer very honestly
[08:18] <ikonia> allamoox: the two things you need to know here are a.) is the image the cloud provider gives you broken b.) has some other user tried to upgrade this badly
[08:18] <allamoox> u can whoise me to be sure of what I told u
[08:18] <allamoox> ikonia:  no the provider gave me a decent image
[08:19] <ikonia> allamoox: are you %101 sure of that
[08:19] <allamoox> YEs 10000% sure
[08:19] <ikonia> how are you %100 sure ?
[08:19] <allamoox> because the vps was working very normal for more thank 7 months
[08:19] <ikonia> define working
[08:19] <allamoox> It works eaisly and smoothly
[08:19] <ikonia> it could have been broken from day 1 you've just not hit a conflicting package
[08:20] <ikonia> allamoox: can you do ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list please
[08:20] <allamoox> I neveer gave me errors
[08:20] <ikonia> lets look at the date stamp of that file
[08:20] <allamoox> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 53 Aug  5 09:52 /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <ikonia> ahrc333ff: someone has modified it today ?
[08:20] <allamoox> but I just opeened the files today
[08:20] <ikonia> opening it won't change the date stamp
[08:20] <ikonia> modifying it will
[08:20] <fakechek> guys, would anybody be willing to quickly help with setting up ubuntu as a docker container? I dont want it to autologin as root, but dont know how to change it
[08:20] <allamoox> yes ikonia I did .... when u told me u have a mixed repos
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: thats a shame
[08:21] <allamoox> ikonia:  no shame no gain
[08:21] <allamoox> I wanna learn
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: do you have other VPS's from the same login
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: you're not learning
[08:21] <allamoox> what do u mean other vpss from same login?
[08:21] <allamoox> same supplier you mean
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: sorry, do you have any other VPS's from the same provider,
[08:22] <allamoox> yes'
[08:22] <ikonia> allamoox: ok, can you look at the sources.list on one of them ?
[08:22] <allamoox> I got a different vps with debian
[08:22] <allamoox> no Its debian
[08:22] <allamoox> not ubuntu
[08:22] <ikonia> no
[08:22] <ikonia> ok, so we can't work out what's happened
[08:23] <ducasse> allamoox: have you got backups you can look at?
[08:23] <allamoox> ducasse: no
[08:26] <allamoox> can I install new OS with out formation the hard, like windows
[08:26] <ikonia> allamoox: no
[08:26] <ikonia> allamoox: backup any data you want to keep
[08:27] <allamoox> ok last question now ..
[08:27] <allamoox> I will back my data but
[08:27] <allamoox> I have roughly 50 users
[08:28] <allamoox> do I need to add them manualy again
[08:28] <ikonia> how else do you expect them to be there on a new machine ?
[08:28] <allamoox> by /etc/passwd
[08:28] <alligatorjoe> Hello
[08:28] <allamoox> thats the file has all users
[08:28] <ikonia> you want to copy the password and shadow file ?
[08:28] <allamoox> yes
[08:28] <ikonia> allamoox: while technically possible, I advise against it
[08:29] <allamoox> ok I will try a bit more of tricks to fix my ubuntu if it didnot help i will just reinstall
[08:29] <allamoox> Thank you ikonia , very helpfull
[08:29] <allamoox> thank you guys ! very helpfull
[08:30] <photon> hello
[08:30] <Xatenev> Heya
[08:30] <OerHeks> i would give them all the same password, and with 'sudo chage -d 0 foo' they need to change it themselves @ 1st login
[08:30] <sk_> good morning people :)
[08:30] <Xatenev> when i do locate file.xyz
[08:30] <Xatenev> how cna I say "vim locatedFile" ?
[08:30] <ikonia> vim `locate file.xyz`
[08:31] <Xatenev> Ok that was damn easy
[08:31] <Xatenev> I love you
[08:31] <Xatenev> xD
[08:31] <sk_> i want to copy a file, i need sudo for it, so i tried the terminal
[08:32] <sk_> sudo cp cudnn.h ~/Downloads/cuda/include /user
[08:32] <sk_> tells me "is not a directory"
[08:32] <Xatenev> ikonia: that doesnt work.
[08:32] <ikonia> thats 3 arguments
[08:32] <ikonia> Xatenev: it won't if there are multiple output
[08:32] <ducasse> Xatenev: ` not '
[08:32] <Xatenev> vim $(locate filename)
[08:32] <Xatenev> that works.
[08:32] <Xatenev> I just had one output
[08:32] <alligatorjoe> Is crocodile lilly here today?
[08:32] <Xatenev> it opened some random file Idk
[08:32] <Xatenev> some empty file
[08:33] <ikonia> alligatorjoe: stop messing around please
[08:33] <Triffid_Hunter> sk_: that would happen if /user is a file, but you're trying to copy a file and a directory there
[08:33] <sk_> oh, what did i do wrong, or how can i do it right?
[08:33] <sk_> i wanna copy that file cudnn
[08:33] <ikonia> sk_: sudo cp cudnn.h ~/Downloads/cuda/include
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: that is the command
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: no idea why you put /user on the end
[08:34] <sk_> thats where i want it to copy it ?
[08:34] <sk_> i thought it goes like
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: where do you want to copy it
[08:34] <sk_> file origin destination
[08:34] <sk_> i thought it had 3 arguments
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: where is the path you want to copy it to
[08:35] <sk_> hm doesnt send
[08:35] <seek> so my friend cant boot in to grub so he can fix his black screen does anyone have any tips?
[08:35] <sk_> its /user/local/cuda-8.0
[08:35] <ikonia> sk_: is that where it is, or where you want it to be
[08:36] <sk_> where i wanna copy it to
[08:36] <ikonia> sk_: ok, so "sudo cp cudnn.h /user/local/cuda-8.0"
[08:37] <alligatorjoe> Is crocodile lilly here today?
[08:37] <sk_> ikon
[08:37] <sk_> i have to be in the right dir then right ?
[08:38] <gtkminh> hello
[08:38] <ikonia> sk_: "sudo cp /where/the/file/is/filename /where/you/want/the/file/to/go"
[08:38] <gtkminh> i am a new ubuntu
[08:42] <seek> my friends grub menu will not load wehn he boots then he changed it to =10 and it still dont work
[08:45] <cfhowlett> gtkminh, ask your ubuntu question
[08:51] <nickar> Hi. I've installed 16.04 LTS and the networking was all working fine. I booted the pc last night and the network adapter isn't connecting any more. It's dual booted with windows using UEFI (it had been using BIOS and also worked fine) and the windows partition has no problems connecting. I'm very new to linux, can anyone tell me where my first steps for tracking down the problem would be?
[08:52] <nickar> I've tried restarting the network service as well as disabling ipv6. using a boot disc also results in no network connection so I'm not certain a reinstall would help either
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> nickar: So networking was "fine" - and now it's not. Yes? Is this a laptop or a desktop?
[08:56] <nickar> desktop
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> nickar: And is the card a wifi or an ethernet?
[08:57] <nickar> ethernet via the motherboard
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Fair enough. Since the point at which it was working - and now - has anything been changed/moved/installed/uninstalled since?
[08:58] <nickar> on my windows partition, yes, I installed some drivers. nothing on the linux partition that I can remember
[08:58] <YankDownUnder> nickar:  Drivers for....?
[08:58] <nickar> motherboard, it was a fresh install
[08:59] <YankDownUnder> Drivers for the motherboard - and that being said, the drivers that are for the motherboard can and sometimes will make direct changes that affect how the hardware operations...hmm...
[09:00] <nickar> ah, that's really annoying. i didn't realise the windows partition could do much to harm ubuntu
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Right oh...have you been in the BIOS to double-check all the settings and configurations pertaining to the network card and other network functionality?
[09:01] <nickar> i can do that right now, i haven't changed settings myself but I can have a look
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> It's not the fact that it's "Windows" - it's merely the fact that a "driver" that affects the "system" were installed...doesn't matter if it was in Windows, MacOS or linux...
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Make sure that PXE boot is turned off - and "Wake on LAN" is turned off - and as well - if you have "serial/COM" ports setup in the BIOS. turn them off as well...hmm?
[09:02] <nickar> ok, i'll have a hunt for those settings
[09:02] <ducasse> nickar: are you booted in ubuntu now?
[09:02] <nickar> i have just booted to my bios
[09:03] <nickar> I can go back to ubuntu quickly if needed
[09:03] <umatrangolo> Hi
[09:03] <umatrangolo> 1 2 3 you hear me ??? :)
[09:04] <ducasse> nickar: check the bios while you're at it, no hurry
[09:04] <nickar> I'm in the bios and the only network option i can find is something called the 'uefi network stack'. this is disabled
[09:04] <YankDownUnder> ducasse: He might check the BIOS when he's checking the BIOS...(pun truly intended) - that's where I sent him originally...
[09:05] <YankDownUnder> nickar: There is NOTHING else - anywhere? Not in advanced settings or anything like that? Nothing?
[09:06] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: i meant 'while you are already there' :)
[09:06] <nickar> That's the only thing I can find. I'll just dive through the manual to make sure.
[09:07] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Um...is there nothing that is apparently apparent?
[09:08] <nickar> not that I can see. I have just switched from BIOS legacy mode to UEFI (hence the fresh windows install) but the network was working fine for ubuntu after that.
[09:08] <nickar> until just now anyway
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> Not very clear about that "until just now" bit...hmm...
[09:09] <nickar> sorry, until last night when the ethernet connection stopped working
[09:09] <nickar> ok, the PXE setting only comes up when you have the UEFI stack enabled. so I think by having it disabled, which it is, PXE is also disabled
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Does the ethernet connect if you switch back to legacy mode? And something else to try, was that you said "UEFI Network Stack" was disabled - does the system work with it enabled?
[09:10] <nickar> i'll try both, give me a sec
[09:11] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Well, you have two things to try - the "Legacy" boot and also chaning the "UEFI Network Stack" to see if you can get the network working...
[09:11] <nickar> yes, i'll try them separately
[09:11] <OerHeks> nickar, windows 10? fastboot enabled? that could prevent this too, hijacking Ethernet/wifi
[09:12] <multifractal> I am having some trouble with nvidia/cuda on 14.04. Sounds exactly like this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/690282/ubuntu-14-04-lts-freezes-after-bbswitch-succesfully-loaded-discrete-card-0000
[09:12] <nickar> fastboot is disabled, all the horror stories i read about fastboot made me disable it immediately
[09:12] <OerHeks> oke
[09:12] <multifractal> But I don't really understand what ACPI and bumblebee are...
[09:13] <admin0> i have a repo where all packages start with s apecific word .. like packageabc-  and have 2 versions available .. 7 and 8 .. how do I pin all packages to only 7
[09:13] <admin0> so that version 8 is not installed
[09:13] <OerHeks> ACPI is powermanagment
[09:14] <OerHeks> bumblebee (old, prime is current) is the switch between intel and 2nd GPU
[09:15] <multifractal> I think I get this problem because when I installed CUDA I forgot to "blacklist" nouveau - whatever this means. I have since performed this step and have managed to boot. But I don't UNDERSTAND what I did. Could someone explain like I'm 5?
[09:15] <nickar> Enabling the stack has done it. That's really strange. Next time I'm struggling I'll make sure that I fiddle with the settings more, it was my assumption that windows couldn't change anything but I was wrong. Thank you for your help Oerheks, YankDownUnder and ducasse
[09:15] <nickar> Now to keep trying to get these stupid nVidia drivers working, any sort of hardware acceleration with chrome is freezing my system.
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Peace, be well.
[09:18] <ikonia> !pinning | admin0
[09:23] <Guest15118> hello
[09:23] <admin0> thanks .. solved :)
[09:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:06] <astrill_> yo
[10:07] <astrill_> is anyone up?
[10:07] <astrill_> that can help me with something
[10:08] <ducasse> !ask | astrill_
[10:09] <astrill_> ok well i need help with the Grub menu and it wont open when i Shut off my computer and Hod shift it wont open
[10:09] <astrill_> hold*
[10:10] <TsakNorris> im connected as a admin to server with SSH. but vlc gives me errors. permission denied etc.
[10:11] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: "xhost +" on your local system, and did you ssh -Y?
[10:11] <hournyoud> Triffid_Hunter: ?
[10:12] <TsakNorris> nope i didn't use -Y and xhost + gives - access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[10:12] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: after xhost+, you should be able to forward over ssh -Y
[10:14] <TsakNorris> Triffid_Hunter: i did connect now with -Y but still same problem
[10:16] <ducasse> TsakNorris: pastebin the full output.
[10:22] <TsakNorris> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22297943/
[10:25] <ducasse> TsakNorris: you're trying to use direct rendering over ssh, not going to work.
[10:25] <kamild1996> Hey, not sure if that's a right place to ask but right now I have GRUB running on my PC, with Windows 8 and Ubuntu. I'd like to try out and install Windows 10 as a third OS. How will GRUB behave? I think Windows will replace it, if so, how to bring it back?
[10:26] <ducasse> !grub | kamild1996
[10:27] <kamild1996> Thanks ducasse, so GRUB will be fine with two different Windows instances?
[10:27] <titan_> Hello Friends!!
[10:28] <ducasse> kamild1996: i've never tried, but it should work fine if you follow that guide.
[10:28] <titan_> Can anybody tell how to restore my old wifi drivers??
[10:28] <OerHeks> kamild1996, likely windows 10 wipes the grub from mbr, so after install, you need to install grub again with the grub manual
[10:29] <OerHeks> !grub
[10:29] <kamild1996> Oh yeah OerHeks I heard about Anniversary Update removing partitions it doesn't recognize. Any way to try and prevent that?
[10:30] <OerHeks> kamild1996, i have no info about that
[10:30] <titan_> Can anybody tell how to restore my old wifi drivers??
[10:30] <kamild1996> hmm alright, I'll ask at #windows, thank you
[10:30] <titan_> OerHeks: Any ideas how to restore the wifi drivers?
[10:30] <nickar> out of interest, why are you installing 2 windows partitions?
[10:30] <ducasse> !patience | titan_
[10:30] <OerHeks> titan_, if wifi drivers are not showing up in the driver menu, what old driver are you pointing at?
[10:31] <titan_> OerHeks: I used to have a old driver which was fine, now i think it got updated and its disconnecting every hour or so
[10:31] <kamild1996> nickar, I have Windows 8 right now and I'm having some weird issues with it, like the generic GPU driver not working (hence reinstalling/removing drivers is impossible). I'd like to see if that's the case on Windows 10, to see if it's my hardware playing with me, or just Windows being Windows.
[10:31] <Ascavasaion> So I get notified that 16.0x LTS is available.  I ran the upgrade, it ran okay but on first reboot it does not work.  boots to a point but now has the Lubuntu bootup screen and that is as far as it goes.  Any ideas?
[10:32] <nickar> kamild1996 gpu drivers are my nemesis at the moment! good luck
[10:32] <hournyoud> nickar:
[10:32] <kamild1996> So either Windows 10 will be gone after a while, or I move to 10 and get rid of 8.1. Thanks :)
[10:33] <titan_> OerHeks: I just want to revert back my drivers
[10:34] <titan_> OerHeks: Is there a system wide reset in ubuntu?
[10:34] <OerHeks> tatertots, there is no restore, like in windows..
[10:35] <goudkov> i'm on an intel cpu, using kernel 4.2.0 on 14.04. i have intel_pstate=disable in cmd line, but i7z still shows cpu frequency lower when idle. is there any other place i need to look into?
[10:35] <OerHeks> oeps tatertots , >> titan
[10:35] <Ascavasaion> So I get notified that 16.0x LTS is available.  I ran the upgrade, it ran okay but on first reboot it does not work.  boots to a point but now has the Lubuntu bootup screen and that is as far as it goes.  Any ideas?  I dropped to a terminal and it says "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up (1h 53min 30s / no limit).  The time is ticking away merrily.
[10:35] <goudkov> i want to keep cpu at highest frequency at all times
[10:35] <goudkov> i'll later set max cstate to 1, but for now, i want to disable scaling completely
[10:35] <titan_> OerHeks: Can I resinstall ubuntu using usb, or will it make more partitions?
[10:36] <OerHeks> titan_, what driver is in use? >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[10:36] <titan_> OerHeks: Kernel driver in use: radeon
[10:36] <OerHeks> oops, that is for vga..
[10:37] <OerHeks> titan_,  what wifi device is it? lspci # and look for the wifi line
[10:37] <titan_> OerHeks: Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[10:39] <Ascavasaion> Got this in private... [12:36:09] <hournyoud> you miserable fucking bastard. Oerheks said fuck you. Ubuntu sucks
[10:39] <Ascavasaion> hehehehehe
[10:39] <OerHeks> titan_, oh, that is a troublemaker, for long time..
[10:39] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/635625/realtek-8723be-wifi-problem
[10:39] <nickar> yeah, i got the same
[10:39] <OerHeks> Ascavasaion, please report in #ubuntu-ops
[10:41] <titan_> OerHeks: Yep, I even filed a bug , But now after the new installation ,it worked flawless for quite some time, I think after a update it started breaking
[10:41] <titan_> OerHeks: That is the reason I was asking for a rollback
[10:42] <titan_> nickar: Are you having issues with xernial?
[10:42] <OerHeks> titan_, i don't think you can roll back the driver. did you even try the options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N swenc=Y msi=1 options??
[10:42] <OerHeks> and  removing Windows 10 fastboot
[10:43] <titan_> OerHeks: removed fastboot long back, will try changing options, if you dont mind , how do i change the options :-)
[10:44] <nickar> titan_ i'm having problems with chrome and hardware acceleration. seems the kernel is missing modules for my graphics card
[10:44] <titan_> nickar: Xernial skipped native amd graphics drivers, have a look in omgubuntu.co.uk
[10:45] <nickar> what about nvidia?
[10:45] <OerHeks> titan_, see that url,  /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> titan_  pastebin the output of this line ... journalctl --boot|grep -i gpu
[10:45] <OerHeks> nickar, nvidia > sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[10:45] <nickar> OerHeks danke schon
[10:46] <ducasse> titan_: xenial didn't skip them, amd stopped making them.
[10:46] <titan_> ducasse: yep, sry for the wrong communication
[10:46] <ducasse> titan_: no problem :)
[10:47] <nickar> nothing new installed. whenever i try to change the window size in chrome with hardware acceleration turned on i get a freeze. it's weird. firefox seems fine with life though
[10:48] <titan_> OerHeks: MonkeyDust I actually tried a lot, have a look at https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/104
[10:48] <titan_> that was me doing all kinds of wierd experments
[10:48] <OerHeks> again, that chipset is a troublemaker
[10:49] <titan_> OerHeks: Yeah :-(
[10:49] <spcstn> hi
[10:50] <titan_> OerHeks: but , the only ray of hope I have is that it worked fine in the start, so I need to use those, I had unsupported updates enabled
[10:50] <titan_> So I think someting got updated and broke my wifi :(
[10:50] <ducasse> titan_: you're using -proposed?
[10:50] <OerHeks> titan_, you can check the dpkg log if that happened, i guess it uses the same driver
[10:51] <titan_> ducasse: no, just Unsupported, just tickked it off
[10:53] <ducasse> titan_: ah, backports. that should be empty now, i'd guess.
[10:53] <titan_> ducasse: So, what do backports mean?
[10:53] <OerHeks> deselecting unsupported (backports)  does not reverse packages
[10:53] <titan_> oh,okay
[10:54] <Triffid_Hunter> goudkov: sudo 'echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' or similar, not sure where to put that for it to happen during boot in ubuntu
[10:54] <titan_> so....how do i reverse?
[10:55] <ducasse> titan_: there shouldn't be anything in backports, it's for backporting newer packages from later releases.
[10:57] <ducasse> titan_: wait, there are a few packages there, but nothing that should affect wifi. nor are backports automatically installed.
[10:59] <OerHeks> i told you to check the dpkg log, don't go wander around blindly
[11:03] <Riply> hey guys - I'm looking to add a fresh Ubuntu server to a windows AD. There seems to be a lot of dated stuff on the web. Does anyone have a recommendation for what I can use? The server is in the cloud - I've setup natting for the AD to a public IP and can ping it / telnet on 53 etc etc just can't seem to get it to add to the domain
[11:04] <titan_> OerHeks: Hey, just changed the wifi card options, my wifi failed completly
[11:04] <titan_> had to empty the config file to get it working back again
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Riply  there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:06] <Riply> Thanks MonkeyDust (:
[11:09] <OerHeks> Firefox 48 is out
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> FF 47 here
[11:12] <Ascavasaion> So I get notified that 16.0x LTS is available.  I ran the upgrade, it ran okay but on first reboot it does not work.  boots to a point but now has the Lubuntu bootup screen and that is as far as it goes.  Any ideas?  I dropped to a terminal and it says "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up (1h 53min 30s / no limit).  The time is ticking away merrily.
[11:13] <dellhem> Hey, how do I prevent Pidgin from autostarting at login? It's not an app setting and Pidgin is not in the OS autostart list.
[11:16] <DJones> dellhem: Don't if the last couple of comments in this link may have a solution, just checked mine and there's no autostart options https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170726
[11:17] <leafybasil> Hai all, been googling but can't see any answers, I wanted to use scp/sftp/rsync for copying files to a server, but I wanted some restrictions on filesize/type serverside, can anyone point me at some suggestions/reading?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> leafybasil  did you read the respective man pages
[11:19] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: for scp/sftp I read manpages for sshd, nothing in there that I could see
[11:19] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: try removing 'quiet splash' from the grub command line to see where it hangs.
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> leafybasil  then i guess you need a script
[11:20] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: for rsync I checked manpages but wasn't sure if theres other "daemons" to use
[11:20] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: a serverside script that restricts upload?
[11:21] <dellhem> DJones: Thanks, but no references to pidgin anywhere.
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> leafybasil  or filters the file sizes
[11:22] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: sorry this answer is a bit abstract, I don't really understand.  A script would need to run periodically and after the fact that files had been transferred?
[11:22] <ducasse> leafybasil: maybe the quota subsystem has something you can use, i'm not that familiar with it.
[11:22] <leafybasil> ducasse: sounds reasonable I'll start looking
[11:22] <leafybasil> I know old-school geocities-like hosts used to restrict file size
[11:22] <ducasse> leafybasil: the package is just called 'quota'
[11:22] <DJones> dellhem: Right, I can't really think of anything outside of the normal startup list, hopefully somebody else may be able to help.  There is also #pidgin on freenode, maybe somebody there would have an idea
[11:23] <dellhem> DJones: just asked there :)
[11:24] <leafybasil> ducasse: this could be just the ticket, thanks
[11:24] <OerHeks> isn't there a option in pidgin itself??
[11:25] <jamieshepherd> Hey. I have 2 node processes which depend on each other, want to run them in the background with something like "nodejs one.js &", but then if I do "nodejs two.js &" it cancels/exits the first one to run the second (ubuntu 16.04)_
[11:26] <OerHeks> use 'client login' <---- disable this
[11:32] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: How do I get to a terminal.  I tried choosing Recovery in Grub, it boots, then I choose Root terminal.  but while I am working there in nano it just kicks out and goes back to recovery menu.
[11:33] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: probably because the root fs is read only, 'mount -o rw,remount /' but you can also just edit the command line from the grub menu.
[11:36] <stock> hi
[11:37] <stock> i'm on ubuntu 14.04  and get strange SSL error when visiting c-span and washingtonpost.com
[11:37] <stock> urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 1] _ssl.c:510: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure>
[11:38] <stock> it seems OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 is still running with a patch called openssl-1.0.2-disable-sslv2v3.patch
[11:38] <stock> that patch should be removed
[11:39] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Okay, got the quiet splash thing off... update-grub run... rebooted.. and the line it is stopped on is "Started User Manager for UID 118"
[11:39] <stock> if you want SSLv3 to work
[11:41] <ducasse> stock: https://ma.ttias.be/rfc-7568-ssl-3-0-is-now-officially-deprecated/
[11:41] <astrill> can u guys help me i need help opening my Grub menu and it wont open
[11:41] <astrill> when i hold shift
[11:42] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: can you check who uid 118 is for?
[11:43] <stock> ducasse well not all major websites like c-span and washpost are of the same opinion ..
[11:44] <ducasse> stock: they are probably using it to support ancient browsers. it's wrong either way.
[11:44] <loganrun> my system won't boot after and upgrade to 16.04, it just comes up with the filesystem in read only mode
[11:44] <loganrun> does anyone know how to debug this
[11:44] <stock> ducasse actually the error i get is with a python bases tool youtube-dl
[11:45] <stock> based
[11:46] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: uid 118 = gdm
[11:46] <ducasse> stock: try the version from the official youtube-dl site, it is probably considerably newer. it's just a single script iirc.
[11:46] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: ok, then i would examine the gdm or x logs.
[11:47] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: hehe  You may as well have suggested I help get a man onto Mars :)
[11:48] <astrill> does someone know how to Fix the Blackscreen
[11:48] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: the x logs are in /var/log, i don't use gdm but assume they are there too. look for error messages :) pastebin them if unsure.
[11:49] <ducasse> astrill: i.e., /var/log/Xorg.0.log and maybe gdm.log or something similar.
[11:49] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: ^^
[11:49] <ducasse> astrill: sorry
[11:50] <astrill> ducasse: i need help with opening my Grub its not Opening when i Hold shift when i shut off my Computer
[11:50] <stock> well i did some work and disabled the openssl-1.0.2-disable-sslv2v3.patch inside a new version of openssl OpenSSL 1.0.2e and rebuild openssl, uograded python from 2.7.6 to 2.7.9 and then the same version of youtube-dl works perfect again
[11:51] <stock> at least no sslv3 alert handshake failure
[11:53] <Hoodedgryphon> Hello
[11:54] <loganrun> system boots in read only mode, does anyone have a clue how to solve this
[11:54] <loganrun> unless I explicity do mount -o remount,rw /
[11:55] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Okay,k thank you for the pointers...  what Is ee there mneans nothing to me.  I need to dash now... will try again another time :(  sigh... and all I did was a distro upgrade from 14 LTS to 16LTS
[11:55] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: i'm guessing there is a video driver problem if that helps
[11:56] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Thank you.  You would think that if it ran with OOB drivers in 14, it should do thye same in 16.
[11:56] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: amd or nvidia?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> FWIW, there's this video bug ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1369216
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> and i read elsewhere, they're struggling with it in yakkety
[11:59] <Ascavasaion> MonkeyDust: Are you talking to me?
[11:59] <Ascavasaion> I guess not heheeh
[12:00] <Ascavasaion> Toodeloos
[12:00] <Ascavasaion> Ubuntu failed me again :(
[12:00] <aash> i have installed openvpn on my machine
[12:01] <aash> after that when i use this  openvpn vpnbook-euro2-tcp443.ovpn
[12:02] <aash> succesfully connected but not internet is not coming saying that
[12:02] <aash> Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration
[12:03] <aash> an help
[12:03] <astrill> aash: what u need help with
[12:04] <aash> astrill: openvpn vpnbook-euro2-tcp443.ovpn this one to connect vpn its working fine but internet connecction losing
[12:05] <seek_> aash: it is normal it is becuase it is free if you were to buy a vps's then install it on there then you could do it
[12:05] <seek_> with out lagging
[12:06] <loganrun> found possible issue, does anyone know what should be in my fstab file on 16.04, I don't see anything about mount the root file system
[12:07] <aash> seek_: ok,but its saying "Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration" any modifications need to do.?
[12:07] <Astrill> aash: Its Prolly Cause its not that good of a VPN I never had that Problem before with any Vpn so try to get a Better VPN or something
[12:07] <seek_> aash i have no idea sorry bro i will look into it for you tho
[12:09] <aash> Astrill: any open vpn source available?
[12:09] <seek_> aash: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006540
[12:10] <paul987> hi
[12:10] <seek_> aash: try ca
[12:10] <ikonia> so that guide is worthless
[12:10] <seek_> vpn connection
[12:10] <ikonia> it's from 2008 with signififantly different ubuntu version, configuration and tools than 2016
[12:10] <Astrill> aash: U are better off Buying a VPS Server and using it to Connect to OpenVPN it would be Much Easier plus u wont get No Lag Buy a VPS Server and Make it in to a VPN
[12:11] <adroit_machine> hi ikonia
[12:11] <seek_> ikonia its the one i used when i was testing ubuntu connection with vpn's
[12:12] <seek_> hey ikonia
[12:12] <bazhang> seek_, did yuo have an ubuntu support issue
[12:13] <bazhang> lets keep the chit chat out of here seek_
[12:13] <seek_> bazhang: yeah a cuple time
[12:13] <bazhang> seek_, then ask the channel, all on one line
[12:14] <aash> Astrill: ok,but its automatically configured ever thing."openvpn --config vpnbook-euro2-tcp443.ovpn"
[12:14] <seek_> my bad
[12:14] <Astrill> aash: it just might be Bad then Try a Better Location
[12:14] <Hoodedgryphon> Hello all
[12:15] <Hoodedgryphon> So I changed my mode to ahci in the BIOS
[12:15] <Hoodedgryphon> And now the computer doesn't start at all
[12:16] <Hoodedgryphon> Anyone here?
[12:17] <ubuntu_> Hello
[12:17] <Hoodedgryphon> Hi
[12:17] <Hoodedgryphon> I changed my disk mode to ahci and now it doesn't start
[12:19] <Tin_man> change it back
[12:24] <gtkminh> My os is 64 bite system, i cannot install applicaton 32 bite
[12:24] <gtkminh> what i to do?
[12:28] <gtkminh> I installed the 64bit, i want to install my applocations are 32bit, what i to do?
[12:30] <ikonia> gtkminh: really depends on the apps, as to how you approach it
[12:31] <generalzod007_> How do you join other channels
[12:31] <gtkminh> download and used terminal
[12:31] <redtuxedocash> i want to update my python, how to do it on terminal?
[12:31] <OerHeks> type /join <channelname>
[12:31] <ikonia> redtuxedocash: update from what to what
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> ikonia: version
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> old - latest
[12:32] <ikonia> redtuxedocash: from what to what
[12:32] <ikonia> yeah, "old - latest" doesn't cut it for me as an answer
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> version bro
[12:32] <Hoodedgryphon> Hey
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> there is an update for python version, and how do i update it?
[12:32] <bazhang> redtuxedocash, tell us the actual version numbers please
[12:32] <ikonia> version isn't an answer
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> python3.5
[12:33] <ikonia> not going to happen
[12:33] <bazhang> redtuxedocash, of ubuntu
[12:33] <OerHeks> redtuxedocash, 16.04 got 3.51 already
[12:34] <OerHeks> !info python3
[12:51]  * shrilaxmi is not at desk
[13:02] <kvmmm> cd rarlinux-x64-5.1.0
[13:02] <kvmmm> bash: cd: rarlinux-x64-5.1.0: No such file or directory
[13:02] <kvmmm> where can I find the directory?
[13:03] <OerHeks> ctrl f in your filebrowser to search
[13:03] <OerHeks> in ubuntu, that is
[13:03] <kvmmm> htanks
[13:09] <kvmmm> /home/k/rarlinux-x64-5.1.0.tar.gz
[13:09] <kvmmm> bash: cd: /home/k/rarlinux-x64-5.1.0.tar.gz: Not a directory
[13:09] <Pici> kvmmm: thats a file.
[13:09] <kvmmm> I'm trying to do this http://www.techbrown.com/install-rar-extractor-ubuntu-linux-mint-fedora.shtml
[13:10] <OerHeks> !info unrar
[13:10] <tatertots> any particular reason you're going about rar that way?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> kvmmm  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[13:11] <kvmmm> only way I know how
[13:11] <kvmmm> is there an easier way?
[13:11] <OerHeks> or p7zip-rar / p7zip / p7zip-full
[13:11] <kvmmm> that will let me open encrypted?
[13:11] <OerHeks> carefull with rar, it can do funny things :-D
[13:11] <kvmmm> so what should I do?
[13:11] <tatertots> 'sudo apt-get install unrar'
[13:12] <OerHeks> dunno, just use ubuntu ?
[13:12] <kvmmm> wow, super easy. thanks
[13:12] <kvmmm> that tutorial sucked
[13:12] <tatertots> is there a particular reason you're doing it the hard way?
[13:12] <Fr_Dae> tatertots -get aren't nessesary just apt with color and progress bar
[13:13] <DJones> kvmmm: Most apps you'll ever need can be installed using the official Ubuntu repositories
[13:13] <kvmmm> I couldn't find it in software center
[13:13] <ubuntu_> Hellon
[13:14] <tatertots> well now you should have unrar without going through all that stuff
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> kvmmm sudo apt install p7zip-full p7zip-rar
[13:14] <ubuntu_> *Hello, is anyone here willing to help some stupid? ^^
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> better
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !ask
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ don't ask if you ca, ask, ASK !
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> thanks bot
[13:14] <ubuntu_> Oh Ok
[13:16] <ubuntu_> The problem is that i don't have one question, I need some to tell me how to compile from code source
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !compile | ubuntu_
[13:17] <tatertots> also dont skip over the README that's included in most source
[13:18] <_adb> is ubottu's source available?
[13:19] <DJones> !botclone | _adb
[13:19] <OerHeks> _adb, yes
[13:19] <_adb> thanks
[13:21] <ubuntu_> I don't how to do cause there are no "tar.gz tar.bz2" files
[13:21] <ducasse> ubuntu_: where did you get it?
[13:22] <ubuntu_> here: http://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/
[13:22] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ > alien -k <file.tar.gz>
[13:23] <Fr_Dae> your tar.gz > .deb
[13:23] <Fr_Dae> double clic and install
[13:23] <ducasse> ubuntu_: there are instructions on that page, just follow them
[13:24] <ubuntu_> Could someone help me in private chat, I feel stupid with my questions
[13:24] <Fr_Dae> no question are stupide just people
[13:24] <Fr_Dae> =)
[13:24] <tatertots> dont feel stupid with any question
[13:24] <tatertots> just ask...we'll try to help
[13:24] <ducasse> ubuntu_: the page lists the steps you need to follow
[13:25] <ikonia> ubuntu_: keep the chat in public
[13:25] <ikonia> that way people can audit and stop bad advice
[13:25] <tatertots> another person might have the same question, so it kinda helps two fold to ask in the room
[13:28] <ubuntu_> Okay, but I really don't have any informatic basic knowledge. Might be annoying for you
[13:28] <cfhowlett> by now, you could have asked and answered your question --- talking ABOUT but not ASKING the questions is what's annoying. :)
[13:29] <BluesKaj_> informatic ? ...maybe you mean informative
[13:31] <ubuntu_> I guessed so, sorry. Basically I want that programm: http://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/. And after unzipping files, I don't know what to do
[13:31] <ikonia> ubuntu_: have you read any of the information ?
[13:31] <tatertots> your next step is cd GloVe-1.2 && make
[13:32] <ikonia> is it ?
[13:32] <ikonia> is it really to just blindly type that
[13:32] <leafybasil> ducasse: looks like quotas works for file, but not directories, just FYI
[13:32] <ubuntu_> Just like that in terminal?
[13:32] <tatertots> then you run the demo script and then consult the readme as per the link
[13:33] <cfhowlett> you can run the demo script without doing the other steps
[13:33] <ducasse> leafybasil: ok, good to know. did it do what you needed?
[13:33] <leafybasil> ducasse: should the question arise again, it seems the best option is to create a virtual filesystem of desired max size, and then mount it
[13:33] <leafybasil> ducasse: a mixture of quotas + vfs will do, thanks :D
[13:34] <ducasse> leafybasil: great :)
[13:34] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ open a terminal (ctrl alt T) sudo alien -k <tar.gz localisation>
[13:35] <ubuntu130> hello! i'm trying to install ubuntu on my machine but the usb installer crashes as soon as it's done loading at the first splash screen - any advice on how to fix this?
[13:35] <ubuntu130> I'm not even getting the "Try ubuntu" menu
[13:35] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: try a different usb port if possible
[13:35] <ubuntu130> tyler_d: will do!
[13:36] <OerHeks> Fr_Dae, why alien, he needs to install it.. there are tools included
[13:36] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: further to that try re-creating or verifying the usb
[13:36] <tatertots> different port, different iso, different coputer
[13:36] <tatertots> in no particular order but best to try all
[13:37] <ubuntu130> tyler_d: anything that could be edited in the grub config to get more info rather than just a graphical output?
[13:37] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[13:37] <ubuntu130> I think it might be some problems with the nvidia card
[13:37] <Fr_Dae> alien are included in ubuntu
[13:37] <ubuntu130> ubottu: that's it! thanks
[13:37] <ubuntu130> haha :D
[13:37] <Fr_Dae> alien create a .deb
[13:38] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: what do you mean by more than graphical output?
[13:38] <ikonia> alien should not be used
[13:38] <ikonia> alien is more than "create a deb" its quite specific
[13:39] <ubuntu130> badly worded, more like "removing the splash to see what's actually going on"
[13:39] <OerHeks> Fr_Dae, and what if it is a sourcecode, then you give totally wrong advise
[13:39] <ikonia> and a terrible idea for %99.99999 of the situations
[13:39] <EriC^^> j #ubuntu-discuss
[13:39] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: ahh, yes nomodeset :) ty OerHeks
[13:39] <ubuntu130> thanks!
[13:39] <ubuntu130> ill be back if im still stuck later hah
[13:40] <OerHeks> Fr_Dae, you do try to help, we appreciate that, don't get me wrong
[13:40] <ubuntu_> Fr_Dae: Didn't do anything, it says that there is an error
[13:41] <OerHeks> yeah, alien gives shivers when i read that
[13:41] <tatertots> ubuntu_ http://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/.
[13:43] <Fr_Dae> ikonia bad idea ? it's simple, and it's work fine
[13:44] <ubuntu_> I need a personnal teacher x)
[13:44] <Fr_Dae> ikonia ubuntu_ novice user don't care how compile work, he just want that work
[13:44] <Fr_Dae> no you need read the manuel bro
[13:46] <ubuntu_> I want to understand how it works but the things I read online barely help me, and I am a woman btw
[13:48] <Fr_Dae> woman are'nt no more stupid dude !
[13:48] <Fr_Dae> xD
[13:49] <ubuntu_> It just meant that "he" and "bro" are not for me
[13:49] <OerHeks> i think teaching howto build step by step is beyond the scope of this channel.
[13:50] <ubuntu_> Okay, I understand, do you know where I could find help for that?
[13:50] <ducasse> ubuntu_: if you want to compile it, install the package build-essential - 'sudo apt install build-essential'. then cd into the source directory and type 'make'.
[13:50] <OerHeks> just do the steps to get started, from that manual, and see how far you get
[13:51] <kokak> hi
[13:51] <ubuntu_> I installed build-essential already
[13:52] <ducasse> ubuntu_: ok, then cd into the directory and type 'make'.
[13:52] <JDMartti> hey guys does anyone know how to install open hardware monitor on the neweset ubuntu
[13:54] <kokak> anyone know where to get info on RT2790 disconnecting with ubuntu server 16
[13:55] <kokak> Ralink sh1t
[13:55] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ /nick for have a name if you want, i try your code, it's compile fine with make
[13:55] <OerHeks> kokak, check out dmesg
[13:55] <katronix> hi all, if you have an apt-get issue that apt-get -f install can't fix, is there a way to tell apt-get to forget about the issue?
[13:56] <OerHeks> katronix, by fixing the issue
[13:56] <kokak> OerHeks i have been trying to find a solution to this Ralink wifi issue
[13:56] <Fr_Dae> katronix jsute apt
[13:56] <katronix> OerHeks: when I run that command, it tells me it can't overwrite existing files
[13:57] <katronix> Fr_Dae: was that a typo?
[13:58] <Fr_Dae> sudo dpkg -cconfigure -a && sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade && sudo apt autoremove && sudo reboot
[13:58] <Fr_Dae> and try sudo apt install -f
[13:58] <Fr_Dae> sudo dpkg --configure -a (sorry)
[13:58] <ducasse> Fr_Dae: that won't overwrite existing files
[13:59] <ducasse> katronix: can you pastebin the whole error?
[13:59] <OerHeks> sudo reboot ??? come on, this is not windows
[13:59] <Fr_Dae> ducasse that can solve the probleme
[14:00] <katronix> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/nYtRgfmE
[14:00] <ubuntu_> Now it says that it doesn't find the files
[14:02] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ , i have download glove.zip, unzip it, open my terminal, type "cd ~/download/GloVe-1.2", typing make, wait, and bash demo.sh and the demo work
[14:02] <kokak> how to you prevent wifi from going off when your rig goes to power saving mode
[14:02] <Fr_Dae> i don't know how to use this application but, i think it's work
[14:03] <kokak> i have to reboot to get my wifi back
[14:03] <kokak> sudo inconfig xxx up does not work
[14:03] <katronix> ducasse: any ideas?
[14:04] <Fr_Dae> In the doubt, reboot =)
[14:05] <Fr_Dae> with SSD : 6seconde for reboot, it's so looog,
[14:05] <Fr_Dae> x)
[14:05] <tatertots> kokak if you needs hardware and things to remain active, why is your rig going into any power saving modes?
[14:05] <ducasse> katronix: there seems to be a packaging bug, where the same files exists in several packages. you can try to force the overwrite with dpkg -i --force-overwrite for each of the packages it fails on, but this problem should be reported.
[14:06] <kokak> tatertots well if i want to use it again. it comes alive except the wifi
[14:06] <katronix> ok
[14:06] <kokak> wifi does not go back again.
[14:07] <kokak> even if you manually want to go alive again
[14:07] <kokak> a reboot is the only way
[14:08] <OerHeks> that  RT2790  is a know troublemaker :-(
[14:09] <OerHeks> you better buy a good supported wifi device.
[14:09] <kokak> har har
[14:10] <kokak> maybe ill just plug the usb 4g modem
[14:10] <kokak> lol and forget using wifi
[14:10] <OerHeks> no joke, you can tell about the many pages suggesting to build the driver yourself
[14:10] <CherryPuffs> Good morning. I noticed that a process called grub-mount /<dir>/<location>/os-probe was taking up all my memory just now. What does that do? Is it normal for grub-related programs to be running after boot?
[14:10] <Bassem> i have 100 gb lvm partition for ubuntu only 84 gb is used and 16 gb unused how can i extend it to the full 100 gb
[14:10] <CherryPuffs> (BTW, I killed the process, everything went back to normal)
[14:10] <CherryPuffs> And I just updated Firefox. Don't know if that's related.
[14:10] <kokak> i guess so.. i was reading about ralink issues it is ended
[14:10] <kokak> endless
[14:11] <OerHeks> Bassem that makes no sense, you want to fill it up to 100 gb??
[14:11] <kokak> Oerheks build the driver? like programming it yourself? or just recompiling
[14:12] <Bassem> OerHeks, the logical volumes are swap rootfs home and they are 84 gb of the 100 gb lvm partition
[14:13] <eelstrebor> what would cause lshw, hwlist, and lspci to hange in ubuntu 16.04? bad install? maybe something to do with uefi? or some weird thing with the bios? it only happens on my new asus laptop which has the latest bios features such as secure boot
[14:13] <tatertots> Bassem pastbin output of 'lvdisplay'
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  yes, so now you have 16gb left
[14:13] <OerHeks> kokak, compiling
[14:13] <OerHeks> Bassem, this creates a 1 gb file > fallocate -l 1G test.img
[14:13] <kokak> Oerheks. I see. just plugged the usb modem now hahaha
[14:13] <eelstrebor> ctrl-C won't abort the commands either
[14:14] <kokak> i guess i wont be using wifi on this
[14:14] <Bassem> tatertots, You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[14:14] <katronix> for future knowledge, if you install software in deb format, can you tell apt-get you don't care if it thinks there is a newer version?
[14:14] <kokak> retarded solution but instead of plugging it to a wall socket. i just plugged the damn router to the rig
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  what do you want to achieve?
[14:14] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, yes and i want to add it to my home because i'll use virtualbox
[14:14] <OerHeks> !pinning | katronix
[14:14] <Bassem> OerHeks, don't understand what do you mean
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  so you want to merge partitions?
[14:15] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, yes
[14:15] <OerHeks> Bassem, we all don't understand what you mean ..
[14:16] <mattt> can i boot an ubuntu iso off a usb drive, unmount /cdrom, and repurpose that usb drive while ubuntu is still booted off the drive?
[14:16] <katronix> OerHeks: can you pin retroactively? would this fix my issue?
[14:16] <OerHeks> Bassem, you want to fill that space, or extend it?
[14:17]  * eelstrebor guesses that his asus p5n-d mobo is a legacy device now
[14:17] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume
[14:17] <_adb> mattt: that's likely to get pretty crashy. i believe there's an option to load the entire contents of the disk in memory when booting that'll help, but this slows down the boot process considerably
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  Bassem wants to combine / merge two partitions
[14:18] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, no
[14:18] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, here's the issue
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  you just said yes
[14:18] <mattt> _adb: yeah, crash is what i experienced ... i'll look into loading contents into memory!  thanks
[14:18] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, i dedicate 100gb partition for ubuntu ok?
[14:19] <adroit_machine> MonkeyDust, here's the issue
[14:19] <adroit_machine> [19:48] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  you just said yes
[14:19] <OerHeks> mattt, maybe you could use the option --to-ram ..
[14:19] <adroit_machine> [19:48] <mattt> _adb: yeah, crash is what i experienced ... i'll look into loading contents into memory!  thanks
[14:19] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, now the root is 20gb, swap 4gb, home is 64gb
[14:19] <OerHeks> adroit_machine, are you a script?
[14:19] <adroit_machine> sorry pressed my middle mouse key
[14:19] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, now where is the left 16g???
[14:20] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, i want to add it to home so it become 16+64 = 80
[14:22] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, got me?
[14:22] <OerHeks> Bassem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume but make sure the partitions are side-by-side
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  so, still, you want to merge two partitions, so they add up to 80
[14:22] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, yes
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  don't say 'no' when i repeat this next time ;)
[14:22] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, but it's all in sda2
[14:23] <k1l> its  a lvm
[14:23] <Bassem> k1l, yes
[14:23] <OerHeks> and it is virtualbox ...
[14:23] <Bassem> OerHeks, no
[14:24] <Archeus> umm
[14:24] <OerHeks> " and i want to add it to my home because i'll use virtualbox" i don get this at all, i leave you to others..
[14:24] <Archeus> i have problem with my wifi
[14:24] <Bassem> guys i'm noob to ubuntu so step by step so i can understand you
[14:24] <Archeus> it just turns off automaticly
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  that's not a beginner's question
[14:25] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, i have 1 tb hard disk...100gb for windows, 100gb for ubuntu, 800 gb for storage
[14:25] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, the issue is in the ubuntu partition
[14:26] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, ubuntu partition is 100gb but what it show me is.....swap 4gb, root 20gb,home 60gb
[14:27] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, so 4+20+60 = 84gb while the partition is 100gb
[14:27] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, now i want to know where is that lost 16gb
[14:27] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, got me now?
[14:27] <ramster> exit
[14:28] <KpuCko> hello i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS from USB pen drive to software raid & lvm, the problem is that on the 4 console (the log) im seeing errors like that: main-menu: operation not supported, and my installation fails
[14:28] <KpuCko> what should be the problem?
[14:28] <ducasse> Bassem: i'm guessing it's not lost at all, 100Gb != 100Gib...
[14:29] <DArqueBishop> Bassem: mind pastebinning the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[14:29] <Bassem> DArqueBishop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22316831/
[14:30] <tatertots> KpuCko try your usb on a different computer does it boot? yes/no...try a different iso media or different usb media, does it boot? yes/no
[14:30] <k1l_> i dont know why beginner do a lvm partitionining. that is just another burden to be dealt with
[14:31] <Bassem> there's 16gb not mounted to swap or root or home where is it????
[14:31] <k1l_> Bassem: wasnt that answered yesterday already?
[14:31] <tatertots> probably from some blog or forum post they thought made lvm sound super nifty
[14:31] <ph88> hi guys, i'm trying to recover some files, can anyone help with this error? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/401710/14704074/
[14:31] <Bassem> k1l_, no one help me to get back those 16gb
[14:32] <tatertots> lvm is NOT for the novice
[14:32] <Bassem> tatertots, as i told i'm noob so i did as some one from this room directions to install ubuntu
[14:33] <Bassem> tatertots, i even dont understand any of the commands he told me to do
[14:33] <k1l_> Bassem:  i guess they are inside the lvm but not directed to any of those 3 lvm-partitions.
[14:33] <Bassem> DArqueBishop, did you get any thing of the link
[14:33] <Bassem> k1l_, so how can i restore it and add them to home ?
[14:34] <DArqueBishop> Bassem: yeah, but I've been pulled into a conference call and now have to concentrate on that. Sorry.
[14:34] <k1l_> Bassem: look if system-config-lvm is an easy enough way to handle those lvm partitions.
[14:34] <Bassem> k1l_, how can i use system-config-lvm
[14:35] <k1l_> install it, then run it and see if it works for you. i dont use LVMs at all. so i cant give you spoonfeeding here
[14:36] <Bassem> k1l_, apt-get system-config-lvm?
[14:36] <k1l_> Bassem: sudo apt install system-config-lvm
[14:36] <k1l_> but you can use your softwarecenter, coo
[14:36] <k1l_> *too
[14:37] <james000-> Hi, I'm trying to get my Wacom CTL-490DW-S to map to a single monitor, rather than my entire array. As per http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Dual_and_Multi-Monitor_Set_Up I have identified the names of my monitors and have then proceeded to run xsetwacom to map it to said monitor, as such.. http://pastebin.com/Tu76vP5U However the command fails and I do not know why
[14:37] <james000-> As I'm on ubuntu mate I cannot make use of the gui tool for this found in stock ubuntu so I believe I have to use the commandline
[14:39] <tatertots> Bassem if any of these commands show info pastebin the info, run all three, 'pvdisplay'  'vgdisplay'  'lvdisplay'
[14:39] <tatertots> let that be your objective for the next moments
[14:40] <tatertots> run those three commands and pastebin if you get info back
[14:40] <Bassem> tatertots, none
[14:41] <tatertots> you are running these with sudo correct?
[14:41] <Bassem> tatertots, will do it with sudo
[14:41] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22317920/
[14:41] <tatertots> because you know only an admin would be messing with lvm's on the system
[14:41] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22317960/
[14:41] <tatertots> i want to see all three
[14:42] <johnsmith> anyone got a goo recommendation for typing pratice client such as Ktouch on Ubun16? i realy like Ktouch but on 16 it just really lags badly.
[14:42] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22318006/
[14:42] <tatertots> consider this your free crash course on lvm okay
[14:42] <Bassem> tatertots, 3 links for 3 commands
[14:43] <tatertots> now understand  you didn't even install your dual boot system, someone else installed it for you..correct?
[14:44] <tatertots> now earlier you where searching for 16GB correct?
[14:44] <Bassem> tatertots, i had windows 7 installed first then i wanted to try ubuntu
[14:44] <tatertots> well there it is
[14:44] <tatertots>  Free  PE / Size       4097 / 16.00 GiB
[14:44] <Bassem> tatertots, he made me choose option else in the installing process
[14:44] <tatertots> there's the 16GB you've been searching for
[14:45] <Bassem> tatertots, so i want to add it to home so it become 76gb rather than it's current 60gb
[14:45] <k1l_> we had this sorted over the last days several times. the 16Gb is still unallocated in the LVM.
[14:45] <tatertots> now don't go thinking you can easily get your grubby little fingers on that 16GB
[14:45] <tatertots> you need to VGextend
[14:46] <tatertots> the only thing you can feed into a vgextend is a pvname
[14:46] <Bassem> tatertots, i dont understand you
[14:46] <tatertots> so you can only extend if you have created a pv to use in the vg
[14:47] <Bassem> tatertots, what is pv and vg
[14:48] <tatertots> Bassem pv physical volume
[14:48] <tatertots> lv logical volume
[14:48] <skinux> Still having trouble with Wireless
[14:48] <tatertots> vg volume group
[14:48] <skinux> Wireless manager says no wireless networks available.
[14:48] <Bassem> tatertots, i just installed system-config-lvm
[14:48] <Bassem> tatertots, is that the one?
[14:49] <skinux> It's obviously working with the Adapter, but for some reason won't see any networks.
[14:49] <tatertots> and you really should read and understand at least this before even attempting to go at messing with lvm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[14:49] <james000-> Is anyone in here able to help with my previously posted question?
[14:50] <rmota> what was it?
 Hi, I'm trying to get my Wacom CTL-490DW-S to map to a single monitor, rather than my entire array. As per http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Dual_and_Multi-Monitor_Set_Up I have identified the names of my monitors and have then proceeded to run xsetwacom to map it to said monitor, as such.. http://pastebin.com/Tu76vP5U However the command fails and I do not know why
 As I'm on ubuntu mate I cannot make use of the gui tool for this found in stock ubuntu so I believe I have to use the commandline
[14:50] <skinux> My Adapter is NetGear AC1200 (A6210) High Gain WiFi USB Adapter
[14:50] <BluesKaj_> james000-,  if you asked more than 10mins ago , repeat your question
[14:50] <skinux> KI already installed driver using NDISWrapper
[14:50] <james000-> ok
[14:51] <ph88> hi guys, i'm trying to recover some files, can anyone help with this error? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/401710/14704074/
[14:53] <tatertots> Bassem what are you wanting to do with lvm?
[14:53] <ph88> hhmm it seems to have worked when i add the passphrase up front ^^
[14:53] <Bassem> tatertots, what do you mean
[14:53] <tatertots> you've pastbin your lv's pv's and vg's
[14:53] <tatertots> and that will help if you run into trouble so we can help out
[14:54] <tatertots> oh i thought you were going to be making changes to the logical volumes, i'm sorry i misunderstood
[14:55] <Bassem> tatertots, i just want to add those 16gb to my home 60gb so it become 76gb
[14:56] <tatertots> ah so you want to add to "home 60GB" Bassem
[14:56] <tatertots> ok
[14:56] <ph88> file backup started =]
[14:56] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[14:57] <tatertots> your home 60GB is LV Name                home
[14:58] <tatertots> that means it's a logical volume and it's name is "home"
[14:58] <tatertots> this is your pastbin of your logical volumes http://paste.ubuntu.com/22318006/
[14:59] <Bassem> tatertots, yes so
[15:04] <tatertots> Bassem vgextend , lvextend pvextend you need to pick one
[15:04] <Bassem> tatertots, ???? what do you mean
[15:06] <tatertots> Bassem you can extend a logical volume with lvextend
[15:06] <tatertots> same goes for vg's and pv's
[15:07] <OerHeks> i think he needs to extend the volumegroup first??
[15:07] <OerHeks> vgextend, and hope that the empty space is bordering the ubuntu VG...
[15:08] <Tin_man> oh don't worry tatertots hasn't confused him enough yet..
[15:09] <Bassem> tatertots, look at this https://s32.postimg.org/ffb78lgit/Screenshot_from_2016_08_05_17_08_38.png
[15:10] <xiaoming> ll
[15:10] <Bassem> tatertots, i made the 16 as new logical volume with name home1...now i need to merge
[15:10] <tatertots> Bassem that's a pretty screen shot but we had all that information with the commands i had you pastebin
[15:10] <Bassem> tatertots, ok so what to do now
[15:10] <tatertots> it's pretty though
[15:11] <xiaoming> how are you
[15:11] <xiaoming> so many users.
[15:12] <tatertots> that a boy bassem get right in there make your first lv
[15:12] <Bassem> ?
[15:12] <OerHeks> hi xiaoming, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:12] <skinux> xiaoming: Can/Will you help me with a Wireless problem?
[15:12] <tatertots> that was encouragement
[15:12] <xiaoming> no
[15:13] <OerHeks> skinux, didn't we find out your card is supported by the ndiswrapper method only??
[15:13] <skinux> OerHeks: This is a different Adapter, brand new, just got it a day ago.
[15:13] <Mouaad> hello, I use ubuntu 16.04 and wanna know if HybridGraphics works (AMD/Intel) ? or should I use 14.04 ?
[15:14] <skinux> And I DID install it using NDISWrapper
[15:14] <tatertots> so now you're going to be using one of the extend options Bassem
[15:14] <Bassem> tatertots, ok i'm foloowing you
[15:14] <skinux> NetGear AC1200 (A6310) High Gain WiFi USB Adapter
[15:15] <ash_workz> so I am looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable and ˇ says "space" "less" ... what is "less" ?
[15:15] <OerHeks> skinux, oke,. but netgear has many chipsets, what does lspci or lsusb say about it?
[15:16] <tatertots> Bassem you ready to extend?
[15:16] <isene> It's a bit quiet over at #conky, so I will try my luck here:
[15:16] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[15:16] <isene> Need some help with an output to conky, I have this in my conky file under TEXT (along with a setup that I KNOW works as I use it for three other conkys that draw on my desktop):
[15:16] <isene> ${execpi 300 ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) - 1)); echo ""; ncal -Mw; echo ""; ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) + 1))}
[15:16] <isene> running the command 'ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) - 1)); echo ""; ncal -Mw; echo ""; ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) + 1))' in a terminal prints out a three-month vertical calendar - which is what I need conky to do - but it doesn't output anything... and I wonder why
[15:16] <tatertots>  extend it vgetend
[15:16] <tatertots> vgextend
[15:17] <skinux> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9853 NetGear Inc.
[15:17] <_adb> ash_workz: probably the < symbol
[15:17] <OerHeks> that 0846:9853 id does not exist :-(
[15:18] <tatertots> Bassem you said you made a new lv, let's see it pastpin lvdisplay
[15:19] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22321708/
[15:19] <tatertots> any changes you makes let's be sure to get that in a pastebin my friend
[15:21] <skinux> sory 0846:9053
[15:21] <skinux> And, where do you look that stuff up at?
[15:22] <tatertots> Bassem can you make that a pv instead of a lv?
[15:22] <Bassem> tatertots, how?
[15:22] <tatertots> vgextend expects a pv
[15:22] <ash_workz> _adb: I dont know how I do this to myself, I could have sworn I saw a lessthan in there, but w/e, yeah < works
[15:22] <tatertots> you have a lv
[15:22] <tatertots> if you wish to vgextend simply present the pv to vgextend
[15:23] <Bassem> tatertots, lv managment only give me option to create new logical volume
[15:24] <Mouaad> no one have an idea how to make work hybridgraphics for xenial ? (amd/intel) , i've found only outdated wiki pages (for 14.04 and below)
[15:24] <k1l_> skinux: http://askubuntu.com/a/740244/31260
[15:26] <beantaxi> Hi all. Upgraded from 14.04->16.04. 2nd monitor now behaves erratically.
[15:27] <beantaxi> My video card is AMD/Radeon. its driver, fglrx, is unsupported under 16.04. Two open source alternatives are encouraged: radeon and amdgpu. 16.04 installs the one it believes works best with your video card; in my case it has installed radeon
[15:28] <tatertots> Bassem you found that 16GB you were looking for and you even made a shiny new logical volume out of it, good job
[15:28] <Bassem> tatertots, but i want to merge it with home
[15:28] <blocky> when does a record of updates get written to /var/log/dpkg or /var/log/apt? i installed some updates yesterday that broke my grub and i am wondering if there is a way to roll them back, but i don't know what i installed
[15:29] <beantaxi> What I am unclear on, is if I should just live with radeon ... or switch to amdgpu even though it is unclear if it is supported ... and in either case, do I just need to live with whatever behavior I get, until a driver update fixes it
[15:30] <k1l_> beantaxi: what exact card is it?
[15:30] <k1l_> blocky: yes, look at /var/log/apt/
[15:31] <k1l_> blocky: and what does "broke my grub" mean?
[15:31] <tatertots> Bassem you familiar with [TAB] completion in terminal?..you know where you can type the first few letters and press [TAB]?
[15:31] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[15:31] <tatertots> ok cool
[15:32] <OerHeks> AMD Radeon R9 285, R9 380/380X and R9 Fury/FuryX graphics cards are now supported  by the AMDgpu driver
[15:32] <beantaxi> http://pastebin.com/k0djjHsH
[15:32] <tatertots> vg lv and pv and everything that [TAB] auto completes for them need to be the tools in your tool belt please look at all three now
[15:33] <beantaxi> Looks like Radeon R5? Not sure without crawling around under my desk
[15:34] <Bassem> tatertots, ok done
[15:34] <beantaxi> Apologies, for my video card cluelessness (I'm basically a gaming addict in recovery)
[15:35] <Mouaad> I asked twice already but I think no one knows an answer: does the hybridgraphics works better in 14.04 than 16.04 for AMD/Intel ?
[15:35] <OerHeks> beantaxi, seems like your card is supported by the open radeon driver only
[15:36] <tatertots> Bassem now that you've seen the tools in your tool belt you should be able to pick the tool that best sounds like what your objective is
[15:36] <k1l_> beantaxi: amd said they want to support all cng cards with amd gpu (so basically the same as fglrx did). but they didnt deliver that. only some r9 cards are supported yet iirc
[15:36] <beantaxi> OerHeks: So generally, unless it's a newish card, it's radeon only. And I'm SOL?
[15:36] <OerHeks> beantaxi, yes.
[15:37] <beantaxi> OerHeks: I blame you.
[15:37] <k1l_> Mouaad: best is to test a live usb/dvd and see what works best for your exact cards
[15:37] <Bassem> tatertots, i see vgmerge is it right
[15:37] <beantaxi> OerHeks: Not really. Thank you very much for the clarity here. At least I can stop wondering how the heck I deal with this
[15:37] <tatertots> Bassem :)
[15:37] <OerHeks> the amdgpu will be extended with more cards, but not down to R5 iirc
[15:38] <beantaxi> k1l_: Thank you for that detail. I was confused, as to how they could just abandon all the old cards. Saying they would support them, but then not delivering, is less confusing.
[15:38] <k1l_> OerHeks: i am not too much into the amd story (unsing intel only since some time) but i thought they said all cng cards.
[15:39] <tatertots> but you cannot use it
[15:40] <tatertots> lv consists of vg which themselves consist of pv's
[15:40] <ezio> if my postfix server will only be used to relay mail mta to mta or sendmail from the server's php, will i need to set up certificates?
[15:41] <Bassem> tatertots, so wha to use
[15:41] <Guest80618> ezio: I don't think so I use to relay gmail smtp and I didn't need to setup any certificates
[15:42] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[15:42] <ezio> Guest80618, that's because gmail uses a CA
[15:42] <ezio> but i assure you, they encrypt
[15:43] <skinux> k1l_: I just followed those instructions, didn't work
[15:43] <yellabs-r2> i have a bunch of bash scripts that use zenity, but the latest zenity ( in 16.04 ) spits out : Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. The developers say its not a bug
[15:44] <yellabs-r2> so i want to rewrite it all to gdailog, is that often used , or is it "old fashion" ?
[15:44] <yellabs-r2> what do you think ?
[15:44] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: Aside from the message, do you notice anything wrong with your zenity windows?
[15:44] <yellabs-r2> no they are fine
[15:45] <yellabs-r2> users see the message, thats alerting
[15:45] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: Are the messages appearing on the command line?
[15:45] <yellabs-r2> you see, its not user friendly
[15:45] <yellabs-r2> yep
[15:45] <yellabs-r2> they are shell scripts
[15:45] <yellabs-r2> with addition of zenity
[15:46] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: You will always see output like that when running GUI programs from a terminal. Just send stderr to /dev/null and you'll be good.
[15:46] <beantaxi> New question :) Can anyone recommend a video card that works well with 16.04? I need to support two 24" monitors (DVI+VGA is ok). Other than that I just browse, and potentially light video editing.
[15:46] <tatertots> Bassem your target can only be a pv to extend or merge in your words
[15:46] <Bassem> tatertots, there's no merge or extend in pv
[15:47] <yellabs-r2> ok thanks for the tip
[15:47] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: I get the message as well. just run something like: zenity --question 2>/dev/null
[15:48] <OerHeks> Bassem, is the free space located next to the ubuntu VG ??
[15:48] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: I would do &>/dev/null , personally.
[15:48] <ctjctj> beantaxi, this box has an NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 610] and is used for just about exactly what you described.
[15:49] <ctjctj> beantaxi, one monitor is on DVI and the other is HDMI
[15:49] <yellabs-r2> yep , cool that works , saves me a lot of work just add the lines
[15:49] <beantaxi> ctjctj: And you are on 16.04?
[15:49] <yellabs-r2> thanks again
[15:49] <yellabs-r2> ;)
[15:50] <OerHeks> Bassem, sudo parted -l # will show the partitiontable, to get a clear picture
[15:50] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: I usually run that and the end of any GUI command that I'm running from the command line or cronjob.
[15:50] <ctjctj> 16.04.1 I believe.  Checking.
[15:51] <ctjctj> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[15:51] <yellabs-r2> just to supress errors i guess ?
[15:51] <yellabs-r2> hi OerHeks (y)
[15:51] <OerHeks> hi yellabs-r2
[15:51] <yellabs-r2> all good ?
[15:52] <tatertots> Bassem this pastbin shows the last changes you made by creating a lv on that 16GB you were searching for.
[15:52] <beantaxi> ctjctj: Googling ... some people needed to install a separate driver, nvidia-364, from a 3rd party PPA. Is that ringing a bell?
[15:53] <tatertots> Bassem this pastbin shows the last changes you made by creating a lv on that 16GB you were searching for. http://paste.ubuntu.com/22321708/
[15:54] <ohlolz> thank you hggdh
[15:55] <tatertots> Bassem your volume groups http://paste.ubuntu.com/22317960/
[15:55] <ctjctj> beantaxi, "Nvidia Corporation: GF119 [GeForce GT610] Using NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.131 from nvidia-304(proprietary)
[15:55] <k1l_> ctjctj: look at the drivers tab in "software and updates" in systemsettings and try a different driver
[15:56] <ctjctj> beantaxi, I've not tested it with the nouveau driver but I would expect it works.  I'm scared to try 361.42
[15:56] <tatertots> Bassem your physical http://paste.ubuntu.com/22317920/
[15:56] <ctjctj> k1l_, It isn't broken, I'm not going to fix it.
[15:56] <k1l_> ctjctj: ah, ok.
[15:58] <skinux> xiaoming: I did what that page said, installed the other driver, wireless still says no wireless available
[15:58] <ctjctj> k1l_, I believe that the 361.42 is likely a better driver and when I start doing some more openGL type programming I'll look into using it.  Or when I start running some GPU intensive processing on this box.  But for what I needed, duel displays at reasonable resolution it works.
[15:58] <skinux> OerHeks: Oops, that was for you
[15:59] <k1l_> skinux: "didnt work"
[15:59] <skinux> Yeah, the other driver didn't work either.
[15:59] <ctjctj> (Took Boss 17 months from the time I told him to switch from VGA to HDMI for the conference room big screen.  His statement was that the VGA looked fine and we didn't need to spend any money.  Seems the dongle for his mac plus the cost of the HDMI cable was a bit more than he wanted to spend.)
[15:59] <k1l_> skinux: was there any error on compiling? or using that new module?
[15:59] <OerHeks> skinux, are you sure you have  wpa_supplicant installed ??
[15:59] <k1l_> skinux: because i doubt it will "just not work"
[15:59] <skinux> The first time I ran modprobe it said Killed
[16:00] <beantaxi> k1l_, ctjctj: Ty. It looks like I want to install the driver first, then the card. Would the driver come with the card or do I find that through Software Center?
[16:00] <Bassem> tatertots, so what to do
[16:00] <k1l_> skinux: those are very important details. just think about you just tell your car mechanic "my car doesnt work", how should he know what to fix?
[16:00] <beantaxi> ctjctj: That's just sad.
[16:03] <skinux> Yes, wpasupplicant is installeed
[16:03] <Tapas> hello dudes
[16:03] <tatertots> Bassem what do you want to do next? I can see the lv you created that's 16GB
[16:03] <jumpkick> Are there any ubuntu developers around?   There bug in the MySQL package requires a single letter “T” option be added to the preinst script to allow symlinked DATADIRs, it’s been open for over a year and the fix is described in the second comment of the bug — this is the fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-10.0/+bug/1474212/comments/2 …. Anyone why fixes this would be a hero, seriousl
[16:04] <Bassem> tatertots, i want to merge that 16 to 60
[16:04] <tatertots> Bassem i don't have a crystal ball my friend :)
[16:04] <OerHeks> skinux, then i have no clue
[16:04] <Bassem> tatertots, i know i'm asking how to do
[16:05] <skinux> I wonder why modprobe said Killed
[16:05] <ctjctj> beantaxi, what I did was installed the care.  Then went to system settings, software & updates, Additional Drivers and let it do its magic.
[16:05] <tatertots> Bassem you see lvresize in your toolbelt?
[16:06] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[16:06] <Bassem> tatertots, but i'm not familiar with that command
[16:06] <tatertots> man lvresize
[16:07] <tatertots> it's very user friendly
[16:07] <Bassem> tatertots, -L|--size [+|-]LogicalVolumeSize[bBsSkKmMgGtTpPeE]}
[16:08] <Bassem> will that be the right one for lvresize
[16:08] <tatertots> no
[16:10] <tatertots> that requires that you eventually specify a physical volume path
[16:10] <tatertots> you can mount that 16GB and use it
[16:10] <tatertots> maybe
[16:11] <tatertots> but that's about it
[16:11] <craptalk> how can i send to termbin.com about my error code messages just after i compiled it?
[16:13] <OerHeks> lets craptalk
[16:14] <Bassem> tatertots, i want to merge not to mount
[16:15] <tatertots> You've got all the tools Bassem
[16:15] <skinux> Doesn't make sense. This is a brand new adapter, I've tried the software that came with it as well as the other driver that I was pointed to.
[16:15] <skinux> Does Xenial just not like USb adapters or something?
[16:16] <tatertots> lvm can be pretty fun eh Bassem
[16:16] <OerHeks> skinux it is a linux thing, not ubuntu only
[16:16] <skinux> I've used them with Ubuntu before
[16:16] <tatertots> I just dismantled a lv i made from a software array i made back on ubuntu 12.04
[16:17] <skinux> Never had so much trouble.
[16:18] <DJones> craptalk: Don't think there is any automated way apart from manualy copying the text error message
[16:19] <OerHeks> command | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:20] <tatertots> Bassen, that moment you realize what you 'want' to do and what's actually realistically doable comes into your consciousness
[16:22] <ctjctj> craptalk, you have to save those messages into a file and then send that file or a part of it to pastebin.  make >/tmp/compile.out 2>&1  Examine the output: tail -100 /tmp/compile.out | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:23] <n_np> test
[16:23] <mxaddict> woooooohhhhhhh, so many people on this channel
[16:24] <mxaddict> sup peeps
[16:24] <mxaddict> ?
[16:24] <cfhowlett> mxaddict, ask your ubuntuy questions
[16:24] <jumpkick> mxaddict: the sky is up
[16:24] <mxaddict> hahaha
[16:24] <mxaddict> I don't have any questions, I just join for fun :)
[16:24] <DJones> !ot | mxaddict
[16:24] <cfhowlett> mxaddict, please stay on topic
[16:25] <OerHeks> Firefox 48 is out
[16:25] <Bassem> tatertots, do i need to umount /home?
[16:27] <mxaddict> I was on topic :)
[16:28] <OerHeks> skinux, hmm maybe something is blocked? rfkill list all
[16:28] <mxaddict> Guys, can I ask a question here about GDM? on ubuntu repo?
[16:29] <mxaddict> Cause I was having issues with it, when I wanted to use it instead of LightDM
[16:29] <mxaddict> Specifically with my NVIDIA Based Main RIG
[16:29] <tgm4883> !help | mxaddict
[16:30] <mxaddict> Thanks for the tip :)
[16:30] <nacc> mxaddict: what issues specifically?
[16:31] <mxaddict> Here goes, I installed GDM on my ubuntu rig that has NVIDIA GTX 970, but when I boot, I get blank screen and never get to login page.
[16:31] <mxaddict> But LightDM works just fine, so GDM specific, And It only started to happen after the GDM release that had Wayland Support added.
[16:31] <mxaddict> Before then I had it working perfectly.
[16:33] <guzzlefry> Has anyone managed to get the FN key on a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2016 version working?
[16:33] <mxaddict> I also tried a fresh install on Ubuntu-Gnome and had same issue.
[16:34] <mxaddict> guzzlefry: My FN Key works fine, but older Black Widow Ultimate, so not sure about the 2016 issue.
[16:34] <mxaddict> !patience
[16:34] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[16:34] <guzzlefry> just kidding...the preprogrammed macros seem to work.
[16:35] <rysiek|pl> on ubuntu 16.04, is there a way to unlock a locked user X session if I have root but not the user's password, *without* changing the password?
[16:35] <skinux> Why would modprobe say killed when I called it for my wireless driver?
[16:35] <guzzlefry> mxaddict: Does the FN key show up in `xev` for you?
[16:35] <nacc> rysiek|pl: passwd -u ?
[16:35] <mxaddict> guzzlefry: I did not check, sorry.
[16:35] <Bassem> ok i tried it with lv managment but i get this error Logical volume is not mounted but is in use. Please close all applications using this device (eg iscsi)
[16:36] <mxaddict> guzzlefry: and I'm on my laptop now, so can't check.
[16:36] <jatt> rysiek|pl: why would you unlock the X session if it's not yours
[16:36] <rysiek|pl> nacc:        -u, --unlock
[16:36] <rysiek|pl>            Unlock the password of the named account. This option re-enables a password by changing the password back to its previous value (to the value before using
[16:36] <rysiek|pl>            the -l option).
[16:36] <rysiek|pl> nacc: nope
[16:36] <nacc> rysiek|pl: oh you mean the X session (I read it as user X, sorry!)
[16:37] <nacc> skinux: dmesg should say why it was killed
[16:37] <rysiek|pl> jatt: admining a few ubuntu laptops here, users have gone home, I need to install some stuff on their accounts
[16:37] <rysiek|pl> jatt: I have root access, but do not know (and do not want to know) their passwords
[16:37] <rysiek|pl> jatt: things being installed are playonlinux/wine-related, so installing as root won't cut it
[16:38] <mxaddict> rysiek|pl: Can't you just do `sudo su useryouwanttouse` then you can do anything on that account?
[16:38] <kvmmm> how do I set my USB drive as a startup disk?
[16:38] <rysiek|pl> mxaddict: I need an X-session, playonlinux is (sadly) a GUI-only tool
[16:39] <mxaddict> kvmmm: different for most BIOS/UEFI configs
[16:39] <kvmmm> ach
[16:39] <rysiek|pl> mxaddict: and trying to run an X-server manually tells me there's one running already, and quits
[16:39] <kvmmm> I should use "startup disk creator" right?
[16:39] <Bassem> tatertots, Logical volume is not mounted but is in use. Please close all applications using this device (eg iscsi)
[16:39] <k1l_> kvmmm: yes.
[16:39] <skinux> How long should modprobe take
[16:39] <mxaddict> rysiek|pl: if you can ssh with X Forwarding, you should be able to run any GUI app on there machine remotely.
[16:39] <skinux> ?
[16:40] <kvmmm> but I get this error "it needs to be set up as a startup disk"
[16:40] <DCensored> hey
[16:40] <blocky> skinux: a few seconds at most?
[16:40] <DCensored> barry??
[16:40] <skinux> Oh it's taking longer than that
[16:40] <kvmmm> so how can I know which method I should use?
[16:40] <DCensored> tabange nako
[16:40] <rysiek|pl> mxaddict: that would require me to know the user's password
[16:40] <rysiek|pl> mxaddict: as the session is locked
[16:40] <mxaddict> DCensored: stay on topic
[16:40]  * DCensored so sad
[16:41]  * DCensored is crying
[16:41] <dax> DCensored: #ubuntu is for technical support only. #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chatter, thanks.
[16:41] <mxaddict> rysiek|pl: you can forward -X on the root account, then switch users?
[16:41] <cdlls> oiii
[16:41] <tgm4883> rysiek|pl: if it's play on linux support, why don't you install it locally then move the play on linux stuff to their machine
[16:41] <mxaddict> rysiek|pl: then run the GUI app
[16:41] <rysiek|pl> tgm4883: actually... that's not a bad idea
[16:42] <skinux> Yeah, it's taking minutes.
[16:42] <mxaddict> tgm4883: has a good point, setup once on a local instance, then just SCP the files over when done.
[16:42] <rysiek|pl> mxaddict: the ssh -X idea is also not bad; but scp it is, probably
[16:42] <rysiek|pl> simple solutions are lovely
[16:42] <rysiek|pl> thanks
[16:42] <nacc> skinux: yeah, that's not normal for modprobe; does dmesg indicate what the driver is doing?
[16:43] <skinux> dmesg gives a bunch of data I don
[16:43] <skinux> I don't understand
[16:43] <mxaddict> rysiek|pl: I admin, I like the SCP solution too, and you will only have to setup once, then just SCP to all the machines, WONDERFUL XD
[16:43] <mxaddict> rysiek|pl: *admit
[16:43] <nacc> skinux: pastebinit ?
[16:43] <kvmmm> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu in this tutorial it says nothing about making the stick bootable
[16:44] <kvmmm> should I format it NTFS, Fat? What? I just want it to work
[16:44] <k1l_> kvmmm: the program makes it for you
[16:44] <mxaddict> kvmmm: you would only need to make it bootable if you are using a BIOS, but on EFI/UEFI you won't need it.
[16:44] <kvmmm> what's EFI?
[16:45] <Freddon> I just installed windows 10 on another partition, and now the grub menu at startup is gone. What can i do to fix it ? I am currently booted up a Live CD
[16:45] <EriC^^> !uefi
[16:45] <EriC^^> Freddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[16:45] <EriC^^> follow the guide there from step 6
[16:45] <k1l_> kvmmm: just follow that howto you linked form ubuntu.com.
[16:46] <kvmmm> hmmm, well when I choose an ISO in "startup disk creator" the "Make Startup Drisk" is greyed out
[16:46] <kvmmm> it won't allow my to choose my Arch ISO
[16:46] <mxaddict> kvmmm: you should have an option to format the Thumb Drive in the "USB Startup Disk Creator" UI
[16:47] <Freddon> EriC^^:  but im not sure wich one of the partitions is ubuntu. Is it the one that have the "EXTENDED" type ?
[16:47] <skinux_> Here is the dmesg output https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/9f36000f160969c2be0ecec820601e62
[16:47] <k1l_> kvmmm: i am not sure it works with arch isos
[16:47] <mxaddict> kvmmm: Then once it's finished, the option should no longer be greyed out.
[16:47] <kvmmm> it's ArchBang
[16:47] <EriC^^> Freddon: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:47] <kvmmm> so what should I use with Archbang?
[16:47] <cfhowlett> kvmmm, it's not ubuntu
[16:47] <EriC^^> Freddon: paste the link that it gives you here
[16:47] <kvmmm> It's not giving me a format option
[16:47] <mxaddict> kvmmm: For the arch ISO, "dd" command is much better, also on the Arch Wiki
[16:48] <kvmmm> what's dd command?
[16:48] <Freddon> ./dev/sdc1             2048  204802047  204800000  97.7G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sdc2  *     204802048 1210449554 1005647507 479.5G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sdc3       1210439678 1953536129  743096452 354.3G  5 Extended /dev/sdc5       1210449920 1953533951  743084032 354.3G  6 FAT16
[16:48] <mxaddict> kvmmm: I think that might be better queston on #arch channel maybe?
[16:48] <Bassem> tatertots, i think i done it
[16:48] <kvmmm> ok, just I'm using Ubuntu to create the thing
[16:48] <EriC^^> Freddon: try sudo mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt
[16:48] <tatertots> Bassem use the display tools in your toolbelt to show me what you did
[16:49] <tatertots> in a pastebin
[16:49] <EriC^^> Freddon: in the future use paste.ubuntu.com for pastes
[16:49] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22330620/
[16:49] <Freddon> EriC^^:  mount: wrong fs type..
[16:50] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:50] <Freddon> Bad option, bad superblocketc
[16:50] <EriC^^> and paste the link here
[16:50] <tatertots> Good job Bassem
[16:51] <Bassem> tatertots, thanks i got the command fro online
[16:51] <Freddon> ./bash: type: -l: not found
[16:51] <EriC^^> Freddon: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:51] <nacc> Freddon: `sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999`
[16:52] <Freddon> http://termbin.com/ctsi
[16:52] <YarpUser123> hey can you help me
[16:52] <EriC^^> !ask | YarpUser123
[16:52] <EriC^^> Freddon: try sudo parted -l
[16:52] <EriC^^> Freddon: then copy and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com or take a screenshot
[16:53] <Bassem> tatertots, the command i used was sudo lvextend --size +16G /dev/Ubuntu/home
[16:53] <skinux> Anyone see that dmesg output?
[16:54] <Freddon> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22331046/
[16:54] <EriC^^> Freddon: ubuntu is on the 500gb hdd?
[16:55] <Freddon> EriC^^:  I think so. im realy not sure :S
[16:55] <nacc> skinux: it appears you've OOM'd
[16:55] <skinux> ?
[16:55] <EriC^^> Freddon: how big is the liveusb?
[16:55] <Freddon> 16g
[16:55] <nacc> skinux: Out Of Memory (in the kernel)
[16:55] <nacc> skinux: and then got an Oops, I think
[16:55] <skinux> How the hell did that happen?
[16:56] <skinux> Do I just need to reboot the machine or something?
[16:56] <Freddon> EriC^^: 16 Giga
[16:56] <jatt> a process went rogue
[16:56] <nacc> skinux: it seems to be from the driver you tried to load
[16:56] <jatt> and ate your memory
[16:56] <nacc> jatt: not necessarily -- you can legitimately OOM a machine, depending on what is going on
[16:57] <nacc> skinux: i would suggest rebooting, yes
[16:57] <Freddon> EriC^^: no wait, its 8 Giga >P
[16:57] <nacc> skinux: afaict, i think the driver maybe didn't handle an error path gracefully (like it assumed all memory allocations would succeed)
[16:57] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok
[16:58] <EriC^^> i wonder why the partition table for the 500gb hdd says "loop"
[16:58] <EriC^^> try /join ##linux and ask there maybe
[16:58] <Freddon> EriC^^:  i sure dont know. but i dont understand why i cant install a new grub
[16:59] <EriC^^> Freddon: try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[16:59] <Freddon> EriC^^: Special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[16:59] <nacc> skinux: if i had to guess, your system's memory is quite fragmented and for some reason that driver is asking for a 256k section of memory
[17:00] <nacc> skinux: (order 6)
[17:00] <OerHeks>  Parted can report loop when it can't find a partition table. A partition cannot start at 0 bytes into the disk.
[17:00] <skinux> nacc: What can I do about it?
[17:00] <Freddon> EriC^^: Special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist...........i mounted the sdb ! so that is now mounted in /mnt
[17:01] <nacc> skinux: i'd reboot and try immediately after rebooting (memory is least likely to be fragmented then). What driver were you trying to modprobe?
[17:01] <le_blob> Bonsoir
[17:01] <OerHeks> This is unusual and limiting, but it does work. If you don't see any need to shrink the existing filesystem and add new partitions in the near future
[17:01] <skinux> nacc: Wireless driver
[17:01] <nacc> skinux: *what* wireless driver
[17:01] <le_blob> skinux: salut
[17:01] <melan> hi
[17:01] <EriC^^> Freddon: that is pretty odd
[17:01] <skinux> This one https://github.com/jurobystricky/Netgear-A6210.git
[17:01] <EriC^^> try cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:02] <EriC^^> Freddon: ^
[17:02] <Freddon> EriC^^: No such file or directory
[17:02] <nacc> skinux: mt7662u_sta ?
[17:02] <skinux> Yeah
[17:03] <mxaddict> Wait, I just joined irc.freenode.org, then #ubuntu, but same people in here, is irc.ubuntu just an alias for irc.freenode.org?
[17:03] <Freddon> EriC^^: ill be back in a few minutes. I have to figure this out.
[17:03] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok
[17:04] <mxaddict> EriC^^: Is irc.ubuntu.com same as irc.freenode.org???
[17:04] <nacc> skinux: seems like it's probably a bug in the driver; but like i said you might try rebooting and seeing if the driver loads. But you'd need to contact that github author for support
[17:04] <EriC^^> mxaddict: yeah, irc.freenode.net
[17:05] <mxaddict> EriC^^: And all the while I was connecting to both domains checking different channels, LOL
[17:07] <daku_> Any ideas for my laptop freezing on the login screen when I'm docked but not when I am undocked. Started happening after I added a third screen. I use the open source nVidia driver for the 720M
[17:08] <daku_> Oh, and it only happens when booting up. After I boot undocked, I can sign in and then dock it and its fine the rest of the day.
[17:08] <Bassem> what is the good application to extract rar parting file
[17:08] <kvmmm> so dd command isn't a program, it just means doing it manually in the terminal?
[17:08] <OerHeks> daku_, the open driver supports 2 screens only, AFAIK
[17:09] <OerHeks> !info unrar
[17:10] <daku_> OerHeks, I tried the closed source ones (just for because. And it ruined my life, only one screen worked and wouldn't identify 2 and 3. The open source one works with three but not being officially supported would make sense.
[17:12] <skinux> I rebooted, modprobe said Killed again
[17:12] <vinoth> hi
[17:12] <skinux> So, I guess I'm just fucked for wireless
[17:13] <Tin_man> so Bassem, how did the 2 hour lvm lesson turn out? I had to step away from the computer, but wanted to know how it ended up?
[17:13] <kvmmm> so there are no usb creator programs in the appstore besides Unetbootin, correct?
[17:13] <kvmmm> I could download one from my web browser
[17:14] <OerHeks> who needs more than the standard usb-creator??
[17:14] <nacc> skinux: sorry to hear that, seems like that particular USB device is not well supported
[17:15] <Tin_man> me, sometimes unetbootin gets a little confused, and fails to create a useable usb installer
[17:16] <leafybasil> I have an rssh config that lets me scp files over as a user, but as soon as I try to chroot the user, I get "lost connection" on every attempt to copy files up, tailing auth.log and syslog, I can see literally no error or issue, anyone know how I can start debugging this?
[17:17] <Bassem> Tin_man, i did it finly man with very simple command wish some one would tell me it from the begning
[17:17] <skinux> Jesus! Does Linux support anything anymore? This device is brand new
[17:17] <Tin_man> me too
[17:17] <skinux> How the hell do they NOT support NETGEAR
[17:17] <nacc> skinux: well, brand new is probably your problem.
[17:18] <skinux> First my device was too old, now it's TOO NEW?
[17:18] <Tin_man> sorry you had to spend almost 2 hours for the free lesson in lvm..
[17:18] <nacc> skinux: i don't know what the other device was, sorry.
[17:18] <leafybasil> I have an rssh config that lets me scp files over as a user, but as soon as I try to chroot the user, I get "lost connection" on every attempt to copy files up, tailing auth.log and syslog, I can see literally no error or issue, anyone know how I can start debugging this?
[17:18] <Bassem> skinux, lol
[17:18] <nacc> skinux: if you have to use ndiswrapper or an out-of-tree driver, it's probably more hassle than it's worth to use that device.
[17:19] <Bassem> Tin_man, it's ok at least i learn some thing
[17:19] <nacc> skinux: in my opinion
[17:19] <kvmmm> OerHeks, I'm asking because the standard USB creator doesn't work to create an arch disk
[17:19] <Tin_man> true..
[17:19] <nacc> skinux: also, that particular driver you used specifically says "This is work in progress."
[17:19] <kvmmm> neither does Unetbootin
[17:19] <skinux> Well, someone in here told me to use it
[17:19] <nacc> skinux: and hasn't been updated in months :/
[17:20] <OerHeks> kvmmm, then there is something wrong with that arch iso. ask in #arch perhaps?
[17:20] <nacc> skinux: which of those devices on the github page do you have?
[17:20] <skinux> Hmm. well, I do know some C/C++, maybe if I put my mind to it I can fix it.
[17:20] <skinux> Which github page?
[17:20] <nacc> skinux: can you pastebin your fresh boot's dmesg?
[17:20] <nacc> skinux: https://github.com/jurobystricky/Netgear-A6210
[17:21] <skinux> Umm. I don't know. I cloned right from that URL and did make make install
[17:21] <nacc> skinux: you don't konw what device you have?
[17:21] <skinux> I have A6210 or AC1200 NetGear
[17:22] <leru> Is there an easy method to install the Java Server Runtime via Command Line?
[17:22] <kvmmm> so I'm looking for a 3rd option
[17:23] <hc123> Has anyone seen this error before? when trying to remove/purge/clean apt
[17:23] <k1l_> kvmmm: use "dd" on the terminal
[17:23] <hc123> it says rm: cannot remove file /path/to/file : no such file or directory
[17:23] <Freddon> Im back EriC^^ , got any new tisp ?
[17:23] <k1l_> hc123: put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:23] <nacc> skinux: fwiw, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2265150&page=2
[17:23] <kvmmm> OerHeks, so the built in USB creator should work on an Arch ISO? I was told in this chat that it doesn't
[17:23] <EriC^^> Freddon: try sudo parted -l again and see if it still says partition type loop
[17:23] <hc123> ok one second
[17:24] <kvmmm> I've tried 2 ISOs, but I'll try a 3rd if the built in app works
[17:24] <Freddon> EriC^^:  yes Partition Table: loop
[17:24] <nacc> skinux: and https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_A6210 and it says to use a different driver for it
[17:25] <hc123> paste.ubuntu.com/22334451
[17:26] <EriC^^> Freddon: that's odd
[17:26] <Freddon> :/
[17:26] <EriC^^> Freddon: ask in ##linux about it
[17:26] <Freddon> Ok EriC^^ i will do. Thanks
[17:26] <antConsole> Does anyone know how to adjust the sensitivity on a thinkpad's trackpoint? I'm using an x200 and everything seems to be outdated on the wiki
[17:28] <hc123> Does anyone know this error i'm having? http://paste.ubuntu.com/22334451/ even after creating the files in the directory, i still get the same error.
[17:28] <skinux> Fine. So I have to wait until I can buy a Linksys adapter
[17:30] <mrs_> hola
[17:30] <nacc> skinux: well, you could try thatdriver mentioned on wikidevi alternatively (I have no idea if it works or anything)
[17:30] <mrs_> hablan español
[17:30] <nacc> !es | mrs_
[17:30] <EriC^^> Freddon: did you run any commands prior to installing windows?
[17:31] <Freddon> EriC^^: no i did not.
[17:32] <k1l_> hc123: that looks like a locale issue, or unicode issue in that remove script from that package
[17:32] <Freddon> EriC^^: do you think its easier to just reinstall ubuntu? I wish i dont have to do it. i will loose so much.
[17:32] <hc123> @k1l_: suggestions on fixing this?
[17:33] <EriC^^> Freddon: no it can be fixed
[17:33] <Freddon> :D
[17:33] <jatt> hc123: what's your locale
[17:33] <EriC^^> Freddon: google said parted reports partition type as loop sometimes if the partition table isn't found
[17:33] <EriC^^> Freddon: try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[17:34] <hc123> @jatt: how do i find out my locale
[17:34] <EriC^^> then sudo testdisk
[17:34] <jatt> hc123: type locale
[17:35] <hc123> @jatt: en_US, UTF-8
[17:35] <Freddon> EriC^^: unable to locate package testdisk
[17:35] <EriC^^> Freddon: sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update
[17:35] <k1l_> hc123: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq atsjp
[17:35] <jatt> what does sudo dpkg --purge remove atsjp say?
[17:36] <hc123> @jatt:purge says same thing as that output
[17:37] <jatt> try sudo dpkg --purge --force-all remove atsjp
[17:37] <Freddon> EriC^^: I must choose what table type it is. should i choose EFI-GPT ? "inside testdisk
[17:37] <EriC^^> yes
[17:37] <hc123> @k1l_: your command output same error as ubuntu paste
[17:39] <Freddon> EriC^^: ok Analyzing it now, ill be back when its finnished.
[17:39] <hc123> @jatt: same error
[17:39] <k1l_> hc123: "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/atsjp.postrm | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:39] <EriC^^> Freddon: let it run for like 1min
[17:40] <k1l_> hc123: show the url here
[17:41] <hc123> @k1l_:file does not exist
[17:41] <k1l_> hc123: and if my second to last command fails, there is something really wrong. that is the sledgehammer option
[17:41] <hc123> there is a .prerm
[17:41] <hc123> but not a postrm
[17:41] <k1l_> hc123: ok, then show the prerm file in pastebin
[17:44] <hc123> @k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22336632
[17:45] <hc123> we have firewall blocked from accessing internet directly
[17:45] <hc123> on those servers
[17:46] <k1l_> did you try to create "/etc/logrotate.d/atsjp"
[17:46] <hc123> only with the weird ae symbol
[17:46] <hc123> will try to do it without and see
[17:46] <Freddon> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22336870/
[17:49] <hc123> @k1l_: it worked!
[17:50] <hc123> thank you
[17:50] <k1l_> hc123: no problem. but i dont know how the symbols got there
[17:50] <hc123> yea same here
[17:53] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok
[17:54] <texla> Upgraded 14.04.4 to 16.04.1 using update system--when i login my screen is 50% darker than usual--as of today I am seeing script cleaning files etc and blocks etc during login
[17:55] <EriC^^> Freddon: exit testdisk
[17:55] <EriC^^> it doesn't show the linux partitions
[17:55] <Freddon> Ok
[17:56] <EriC^^> try sudo blkid
[17:57] <tatertots> texla have you tried adjusting your screen brightness?
[17:57] <Freddon> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22338050/
[17:58] <texla> tatertots, I cannot find any adjustment to screen brightness
[18:00] <Captain_Proton> texla: System Settings > brightness&lock
[18:00] <tatertots> texla its right there in system settings
[18:00] <EriC^^> Freddon: try sudo blkid
[18:00] <Freddon> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22338457/
[18:01] <Freddon> I gave you the wrong link
[18:01] <borei> hi all
[18:01] <borei> need some help with galera cluster - can't start first node, ubuntu 16
[18:02] <borei> timingout trying to communicate gcomm
[18:03] <texla> tatertots, I got it overlooked the slide bar previously thanks to both for the help
[18:05] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok try sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt
[18:06] <EriC^^> looks like the filesystem is using the whole disk without a partition table
[18:06] <Freddon> EriC^^: There i can see "boot and home dir in the /mnt dir
[18:07] <cyberdp> hello
[18:07] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok, cool
[18:08] <EriC^^> Freddon: just /boot and /home ?
[18:08] <Freddon> EriC^^: and my usernamefolder
[18:09] <rick6860> can someone tell me where I should download a printer driver to?
[18:09] <Freddon> EriC^^: /Home / boot /myusername
[18:09] <ahrc333ff> rick6860: your downloads folder :)
[18:10] <rick6860> ahrc333ff, do I need to move the PPD file to a specific location?
[18:11] <umbeonight> hi. I seem to have an issue with my new ubuntu 16.04 LTS netinstall. When the system boots, I am getting ```/dev/sda2: clea, xxxxx/yyyyy files zzzzz/aaaaa blocks``` and the message just stays there. I can switch to a different TTY but it is annoying
[18:11] <umbeonight> I have tried reinstalling the OS too... made no difference
[18:11] <EriC^^> Freddon: ok, i'd copy your stuff off to another hdd
[18:11] <tatertots> rick did your printer manufacture not provide you with a linux installer?
[18:11] <_adb> rick6860: are you using cups? there's a directory /etc/cups/ppd/ that all my *.pdd files live in
[18:12] <Freddon> EriC^^: ok, and then what should i do ?
[18:12] <umbeonight> just slightly worried about what could be the issue here.
[18:12] <ahrc333ff> rick6880: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174713/how-to-force-ubuntu-to-load-and-use-my-ppd-printer-driver-instead-of-the-defaul <- this is an older link, but hoping it might work fo ryou still
[18:12] <tatertots> I only ask because i have a brother printer and brother provided a nice installer
[18:12] <rick6860> _adb, i am using cups. Should I put it there?
[18:12] <reevv> hello. anyone has time and the mood to help me get to the bottom of an apache access issue?:-)
[18:13] <tatertots> that's so thoughtful and kind of brother to provide a linux installer
[18:13] <_adb> rick6860: that is the location i put my .ppd files in, and i managed to get them working, but i'm not an expert, so listen to the advise of others.
[18:13] <rick6860> _adb, does it really affect install and use of printer?
[18:13] <EriC^^> Freddon: reinstall and copy your stuff back
[18:13] <EriC^^> Freddon: make a fresh partition table type gpt on the 500gb hdd
[18:13] <umbeonight> I also changed the fsck flag in /etc/fstab, and removed ```quiet splash``` from the grub.cfg file, and no difference
[18:13] <Freddon> EriC^^: oh :*( ok. thank you very much for your time and your kindness to help me out.
[18:14] <EriC^^> Freddon: no problem
[18:14] <rick6860> Does windows used printer ppd files?
[18:15] <umbeonight> is there any way to get any more info on my booting issue?
[18:15] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: no windows does not use ppd but mac does
[18:16] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, I am trying to view the code/language of a printer file in windows and compare it with linux. Is that even possible?
[18:16] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: Cups is apple sponsored project
[18:16] <umbeonight> anyone got any ideas to help me?
[18:17] <tatertots> umbeonight does the install fail or complete?
[18:17] <umbeonight> completes
[18:17] <umbeonight> tatertots it is when I boot the new system. I can switch TTY and log in no problem
[18:18] <_adb> umbeonight: if you fsck the disk does it come back ok?
[18:18] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: not to my knowledge you will have some ini files but everything else will be in dll's
[18:18] <umbeonight> _adb I am a bit of an idiot... how do I do this without messing my fs up, as it warns me?
[18:18] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: what are you trying to install
[18:18] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, My printer works on Windows but not linux Mate. The printer (Sharp) readme says tested on CUps 1.1.20. I know my CUPS is newer.
[18:19] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, A Sharp MX-3050N
[18:19] <tatertots> umbeonight can you find the error in the logs?
[18:19] <k1l_> umbeonight: did you install a dm like lightdm?
[18:19] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: should still work is it usb or wireless?
[18:19] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, I have spent hours. It's an authentication issue.
[18:19] <umbeonight> tatertots can you instruct me on how to get to these? I have never done a netinst before :3. k1l_ I haven't got round to that yet. Just basic ubuntu install without x.
[18:20] <k1l_> umbeonight: ah ok.
[18:20] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, It's wired through network.
[18:20] <umbeonight> k1l_ I will just check though
[18:20] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, wireless from my laptop
[18:20] <k1l_> umbeonight: so the issue is: you dont get a cli login prompt on a minimal install?
[18:20] <k1l_> umbeonight: but the other ttys work?
[18:21] <umbeonight> k1l_ yup. It just says /dev/sda2 clean... blah blah files blah blah blocks. If I press CTRL ALT F1 though, I get a TTY.
[18:21] <umbeonight> k1l_ it is showing the message on tty 7
[18:21] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: should be raw print job from to ip adress are you tring to scan to pc or anything like that?
[18:22] <k1l_> umbeonight: ok. so it seems like its trying to start/wait for a x. or more specific a dm
[18:22] <umbeonight> k1l_ no X installed
[18:23] <k1l_> umbeonight: but tty7 is where x is.
[18:23] <k1l_> umbeonight: a server install would boot to tty1
[18:23] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, no. Just trying to print. There is no way to set up a user number. Have tried different texts to add to PPD that I found on net. Nothing works.
[18:23] <umbeonight> k1l_ there is no X11 or xinit or startx or xorg in any directory
[18:26] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, I can ping the pinter
[18:26] <umbeonight> k1l_ but it has done it under two consecutive installs. The first install used LVM and Btrfs, the second used just the guided partitioning
[18:26] <tatertots> my hp and brother printers have linux drivers thankfully
[18:26] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: oohh the printer is setup for dept access or accounting, it not a connection issues sounds like a software or incomplete driver
[18:27] <psicobra> hi all is there any one here that can help me setup ssl-tls on vsftp i got the server working an i can log on but i read that ftp transmits the password unsecurely
[18:27] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, I just sent an email to SHARP asking them to look into it.
[18:28] <umbeonight> I am just a bit dumb with this stuff, I wanna read the systemd logs but I am not sure how to
[18:29] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, In Windows, I have a place to enter a user number in printer preferences. IN Linux, no such option.
[18:30] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: I know you would not have a problem just printer as there is many ways to do it, this is auth issue. Do you a have control of the printer? You could create a default group with no auth just for testing..
[18:30] <umbeonight> oh. seems that wpa_supplicant hasn't started either...so it is still failing to boot completleyt
[18:30] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: printing*
[18:32] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, I can control printer from web interface
[18:33] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, would the default user group be the name of my linux computer?
[18:34] <umbeonight> anyone got any ideas? I booted recovery mode and it flashed an error before going to the interactive screen so I couldn't read the blooming thing
[18:35] <Guy1524> Hey guys, what is the advantage of snap over dpkg/apt?
[18:36] <Guy1524> the only difference I see so far is that you dont need to be a superuser
[18:37] <umbeonight> this is really strange. I might have to switch back to windows if I cant get it to work
[18:37] <ahrc333ff> Guy1524: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=snap+linux
[18:38] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: Play around my guess would be default or test it more about the rights just make sure to does not require a user account, so when you print it does not a need a account id.
[18:39] <Guy1524> ahrc333ff: thanks
[18:39] <k1l_> Guy1524: it tries to circumvent the dependency hell. but i guess the guys in #snappy can give some more info
[18:39] <Captain_Proton> rick6860: also in the web interface there should be a log screen and see error it throw when you try to print
[18:39] <dbugger> Hello fellas! i just just did a release upgrade on my server, and I cant restart my apache server now! What could I do?
[18:39] <k1l_> ahrc333ff: we dont use lmgtfy in here.
[18:39] <ahrc333ff> Guy1524: np :) Seriously though, there are great explanations that come up as the first two links. haha
[18:39] <dbugger> Heres the info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/808606/i-cant-restart-apache/808607#808607
[18:40] <rick6860> Captain_Proton, thanks. I will mess around and see what I can do.
[18:40] <ahrc333ff> k1l_: gotcha, no harm intended. it is a critical skill :)
[18:41] <k1l_> ahrc333ff: yeah, but to a lot of users that look some sort of passive-aggressiv, which we dont want to look like as a community :)
[18:42] <ahrc333ff> k1l_: i can see that. fair enough.
[18:42] <Caveaus>  identify 989605
[18:45] <anubiss> hi
[18:45] <psicobra> hi
[18:46] <psicobra> any one good with vsftp?
[18:46] <psicobra> need to enable ssl with it
[18:47] <k1l_> umbeonight: what is your endgoal with that netinstall?
[18:48] <Captain_Proton> psicobra: just use sshftp no work there, just sure you have ssh install on the server and your all set
[18:48] <umbeonight> k1l_ to install awesome wm, and to set it up myself (I would use arch but it is too much faff). Anyhow, found a solution. I added fastboot to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then ran sudo update-grub; sudo reboot now and it all works!
[18:49] <psicobra> ill look into that thanls proton
[18:49] <psicobra> nice work umbeonight
[18:49] <umbeonight> psicobra thank you!
[18:51] <k1l_> umbeonight: ah ok.
[18:53] <anubiss> ubuntu or linux has a lot, but sadly its not good for videos games mmo etc
[18:53] <anubiss> ?
[18:53] <k1l_> anubiss: is that a support question?
[18:53] <OerHeks> !steam
[18:53] <daku_> you can win with wine
[18:54] <dbugger> Guys, when I do "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" I get an "E: Package 'libapache2-mod-php5' has no installation candidate" what is wrong with my server?
[18:55] <anubiss> k1l_, yes
[18:55] <anubiss> k1l_, can you answer that?
[18:55] <daku_> dbugger, use just php not php5
[18:55] <dbugger> daku_, ok, i will try
[18:55] <dbugger> It worked! thanks!
[18:56] <OerHeks> !info libapache2-mod-php7.0
[18:56] <daku_> dbugger, no worries
[18:56] <Fr_Dae> anubiss i work, and play on Lubuntu what no a probleme
[18:56] <Fr_Dae> TES5 turn fine
[18:56] <k1l_> dbugger: 16.04 is using php7 now
[18:56] <Fr_Dae> and the witcher series too
[18:56] <anubiss> Fr_Dae, is there any mmo race games in linux?
[18:57] <dbugger> daku_, but somehow the mod for apache for php5 is still installed...
[18:57] <anubiss> like project torque / heat online?
[18:57] <Fr_Dae> neverwinter turn fine what do you say by MMO ?
[18:57] <Fr_Dae> dofus/wakfu too
[18:57] <anubiss> the governments removed the mmo games from the internet
[18:58] <anubiss> i hope they bring them back
[18:58] <anubiss> mainly race games
[18:58] <teta> can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/c7YMunFw  just installed ubuntu 16.04 and can't use apt-get
[18:58] <daku_> dbugger, strange, on mine it pulls 7 by default if I use 'php'
[18:59] <k1l_> teta: is the softwarecenter opened?
[18:59] <daku_> dbugger, 2 questions, 1, do you already have a version of php installed? and 2. What version do you need?
[19:00] <Fr_Dae> what gouvernement ?
[19:00] <Fr_Dae> teta apt, not apt-get
[19:00] <teta> k1l_: no I just have firefox opened
[19:00] <anubiss> if anyone played this game before, we have a petition to save it
[19:00] <anubiss> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-want-to-save-heat-online
[19:00] <dbugger> daku_, I solved it, by deleting the php5.conf. I did a system update, and apparently something got mixed up, since I had both php5 and php7 coexisting
[19:01] <teta> Fr_Dae: what
[19:01] <Bray90820> Is there any way to install ubuntu without booting from external media such as a flash drive or USB
[19:01] <dbugger> I also had to install php7.0-mysql
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> teta: maybe you're running two apt's then?  it only likes one package program running at a time is what people are getting at.
[19:01] <teta> SchrodingersScat: no Im not running anything
[19:01] <daku_> dbugger, ah okay, that makes sense. Glad you got it.
[19:01] <k1l_> anubiss: stop that in here. we are ubuntu support only. no petitions, no government stuff,....
[19:02] <Fr_Dae> anubiss what is your sources ? what governement ?
[19:02] <k1l_> teta: can you run again? "sudo apt update"
[19:02] <k1l_> Fr_Dae: that is offtopic in here. we focus in ubuntu support.
[19:03] <teta> k1l_: same http://pastebin.com/ugVuFbnE
[19:03] <teta> it¡s strange that process update-man
[19:03] <Fr_Dae> ok
[19:03] <dbugger> daku_, thank you for your help. I send you karma points
[19:03] <teta> that takes up so many resources
[19:03] <OerHeks> teta maybe there are updates pending?
[19:04] <Bray90820> Is there any way to install ubuntu without booting from external media such as a flash drive or USB?
[19:05] <teta> OerHeks: no
[19:05] <OerHeks> Bray90820, isoboot, only when you have grub installed already
[19:05] <Bray90820> OerHeks: I do have grub installed
[19:05] <OerHeks> !isoboot
[19:06] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[19:06] <Bray90820> Thanks
[19:07] <k1l_> teta: i dont know what is making that lock locked. we could force to remove that lock but in case there is really a process doing some work that might make a mess then. so i would suggest to do a reboot and see again.
[19:08] <rajivmars> my nm-applet icon disappears from the top menubar. i am using ubuntu 16.04.
[19:09] <Bray90820> OerHeks: I am thinking that i won't be able to install ubuntu on a clover trail processor with isoboot
[19:09] <OerHeks> Bray90820, ouch, uefi?
[19:09] <Bray90820> yeah
[19:10] <Bray90820> I do have grub installed tho
[19:10] <OerHeks> if grub boots from that UEFI already, i think you are fine
[19:10] <OerHeks> not sure, i never tried that with uefi
[19:11] <Bray90820> Well I do have a version of android installed and it says error rtfs is already loaded
[19:11] <Bray90820> trying to terminate refi services again
[19:11] <Bray90820> and then t hangs
[19:11] <Bray90820> *It
[19:11] <Bray90820> I don't know if that means anything for ubuntu tho
[19:11] <OerHeks> maybe an other UEFI expert can help ..
[19:11] <Bray90820> Anyone else?
[19:12] <nopea> I installed Server 12.04 on a VM and now trying to install LAMP, but I am getting errors of missing dependicies - how can I install Apache, PHP, MySQL on this clean server?
[19:12] <OerHeks> nopea, upgrade to 12.04.5
[19:13] <nopea> OerHeks: I have that installed already
[19:13] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue # will show what version you have now
[19:13] <nopea> I am using 12.04.5 as it matches my production server
[19:13] <OerHeks> oke
[19:13] <OerHeks> can you pastebin the errors on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[19:14] <nopea> OerHeks: sure - one sec
[19:14] <OerHeks> ( and there is #ubuntu-server too here on #freenode )
[19:15] <nopea> OerHeks: have to figure out how to copy the text from the VM window first ;)
[19:16] <OerHeks> no networking ?
[19:16] <OerHeks> if you have network,  command | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:18] <nopea> OerHeks: tried to install OpenSSH server, and that too give me unmet dependancies error
[19:19] <OerHeks> apt-get install -f does not solve?
[19:19] <nopea> Says 'You have held broken packages'
[19:19] <nopea> no, tried that :(
[19:19] <k1l_> nopea: show that output in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:22] <nopea> k1l_: I am trying to find a way to copy and paste text from the VM window
[19:24] <umbeonight> what program produces the [ OK ]
[19:24] <umbeonight> [ WARN ] [ FAIL ] messages?
[19:25] <k1l_> umbeonight: the init. on recent ubuntus its systemd
[19:25] <umbeonight> k1l_ so there is no way to replicate this myself with a simple command, I have to write the colour styling myself?
[19:25] <umbeonight> (using bash/sh)
[19:26] <OerHeks> nopea, screenshot, or gsm-picture
[19:26] <nopea> OerHeks: yeah - doing that now ;-)
[19:27] <nopea> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5QmcW_8DZ4MTWZ4OTZ4UWR2VWs
[19:28] <k1l_> nopea: what happens when you try to install one of those pacakges?
[19:28] <nopea> k1l_: I will try
[19:29] <nopea> first one says I am missing other dependicies
[19:29] <k1l_> nopea: details matter here
[19:30] <OerHeks> do you have backports enabled?
[19:30] <k1l_> nopea: do you have some 3rd party or PPAs enabled?
[19:30] <nopea> OerHeks: I am dont know what that
[19:31] <nopea> k1l_: my green is starting to show... I do not know what PPA is?  I just installed Ubuntu Server from the downloaded ISO and started from there to install LAMP
[19:31] <k1l_> nopea: hmm, ok. because usually tha original ubuntu packages should work
[19:32] <nopea> k1l_: yeah I would figure that... I thought I have done this before.   Maybe I should try a new install to the VM
[19:32] <OerHeks>  did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:33] <OerHeks> no, you would have known
[19:33] <nopea> OerHeks: :) No I did not edit anything
[19:33] <OerHeks> hmm sudo tasksel
[19:33] <nopea> after install, logged in and ran the apt-get install to try installing
[19:34] <k1l_> nopea: is this a 12.04 install?
[19:34] <nopea> k1l_: yes - I am doing a new install to a new VM
[19:34] <OerHeks> he checked for 12.04.5 ...
[19:35] <k1l_> ok. but the apache2 install should work there with a out of box install
[19:36] <k1l_> this is a server install?
[19:36] <nopea> k1l_: yes - 12.04.5 server
[19:37] <nopea> during the install I did try installing the LAMP - I think it didn't install correctly then either.  This time I will try installing no packages
[19:38] <rlowdermilk> exit
[19:42] <nopea> after a clean install.... same thing
[19:42] <guzzlefry> Does `apt-cache show <pkgname>` show testing/experiment packages by default?
[19:42] <nopea> install->reboot->login-> ran sudo apt-get install apache2 and I get the erroes
[19:43] <nopea> guzzlefry: sorry not sure I understand
[19:45] <OerHeks> apt-cache apache2
[19:46] <nopea> OerHeks: that gives me an invalid operation
[19:47] <nopea> It appears as if there are packages that are supposed to be there during install and are not.
[19:47] <nopea> Maybe I should try the desktop version... I just wanted a server ;)
[19:52] <OerHeks> nopea, really odd, you might want to check this in #ubuntu-server too, you have screenshot ready
[19:52] <nopea> I tried tasksel and I get aptitude failed (100)
[19:53] <OerHeks> 100..
[19:54] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[19:54] <spandey2> Hey guys. I'm new. What does "manual-windows" do?
[19:54] <OerHeks> mind the ^
[19:54] <spandey2> I meant for irssi.
[19:54] <nopea> OerHeks: yeah lamp-server^ also spits out error - tried it before :)
[19:55] <OerHeks> if this does not work , ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and see if there is a ia32-libs-raring.list
[19:55] <Pici> spandey2: probably best to ask in #irssi for that
[19:55] <spandey2> okay. thanks
[19:56] <exoskel> Hi. Think I found a bug. Installing Ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends from a server install, and then installing software from CLI before logging in does not register in Unity.
[19:57] <nicomachus> !bugs | exoskel
[19:58] <exoskel> ... Yea. I guess this one will remain bugged then.
[19:58] <JeffATL> does current ubuntu have a lower "will not install" limit on RAM?
[19:59] <nicomachus> JeffATL: don't think so. how much RAM do you have?
[19:59] <anubiss> hi
[19:59] <JeffATL> 512MiB
[19:59] <JeffATL> anubiss: ^
[19:59] <nicomachus> JeffATL: you might try one of the lighter flavors. Lubuntu or the like
[20:00] <nicomachus> but that is VERY small...
[20:07] <zoltar_> hi
[20:09] <k1l_> nopea: are you sure your iso is ok?
[20:10] <nopea> k1l_: I grabbed it from ubuntu a couple hours ago
[20:14] <__zlate__> Hi all, I am having some problems with logrotate, I can see uncompressed files with extension .log.1
[20:15] <__zlate__> and I am not using the "delaycompress" option
[20:17] <sarkis> hey all - what can be done about a package that is showing up as 'kept back' when i do an apt-get upgrade?
[20:18] <k1l_> sarkis: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:18] <YankDownUnder> __zlate__: Have you changed or modified the settings and restarted the service? https://linuxconfig.org/logrotate
[20:18] <sarkis> k1l_: anyway to not do that though?
[20:18] <cc22> test
[20:18] <k1l_> sarkis: or the new apt command, where its naming is less confusing: sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:18] <sarkis> k1l_: i'd like to upgrade just that one package?
[20:18] <k1l_> sarkis: that doesnt upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[20:18] <sarkis> i understand
[20:19] <k1l_> ubuntu doesnt use apt for that ubuntu release upgrades on cli
[20:19] <sarkis> there's others that are kept back (kernels
[20:19] <sarkis> i'd like to not install those if not necessary
[20:19] <k1l_> sarkis: uh, that is bad. because the kernel updates are shipped for security or heavy bug reasons.
[20:19] <__zlate__> YankDownUnder: Yes, I have tried modifying the settings and restarted the service
[20:20] <YankDownUnder> __zlate__: And you're not getting the results that you desire?
[20:20] <k1l_> sarkis: so not instaling all updates is a risk to the system. you really should consider that. if you really want to only install that one update run "apt isntall packagename"
[20:21] <sarkis> k1l_: thanks
[20:21] <rtorres> hello guys! has anyone solved the screen flickering issue in laptops using ubuntu 16.04?
[20:21] <sarkis> for some reason ... the latter command isnt working - trying dist-upgrade in our staging envs
[20:22] <rtorres> screen flickers unless I'm constantly changing brightness
[20:22] <k1l_> sarkis: can you provide the full output on paste.ubuntu.com?
[20:22] <sarkis> rtorres: sounds like it could be related to graphics drivers?
[20:22] <rtorres> sarkis, well seems like I'm using the latest one, nvidia 361-tested
[20:23] <k1l_> nopea: i am just installing a vbox 12.04.5 server and testing
[20:23] <rtorres> sarkis, problem is my computer may be using the other video card, the intel one
[20:23] <sarkis> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22355790/
[20:23] <nopea> k1l_: thank... but I think I got it.  I had to delete the /var/lib/apt/lists/* files then run apt-get update
[20:23] <__zlate__> YankDownUnder: So the problem happens in long run only, I am unable to reproduce it manually. There is a .log.1 file which doesnt get compressed
[20:23] <k1l_> nopea: ok
[20:23] <nopea> k1l_: The resolved the has mismatch errors
[20:24] <nopea> k1l_: I appreciate the help.
[20:24] <anubiss> sarkis, armenian?
[20:24] <sarkis> yea ;D
[20:24] <anubiss> heh
[20:24] <anubiss> from armenia or la?
[20:24] <sarkis> k1l_: so i ran dist-upgrade - still seing neo4j-enterprise held back
[20:24] <sarkis> anubiss: is there a difference?
[20:25] <k1l_> sarkis: "sudo apt install neo4j-enterprise"
[20:25] <sarkis> jk ... la
[20:25] <anubiss> me too
[20:25] <sarkis> k1l_: same thing :(
[20:25] <sarkis> says it will install... then 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:25] <anubiss> sarkis, did you play any mmo race games?
[20:25] <sarkis> no lol
[20:25] <anubiss> can you sign this petition please
[20:26] <anubiss> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-want-to-save-heat-online
[20:26] <YankDownUnder> __zlate__: Firstly,  if you've not done so already, dig deeply into the "mystery" of logrotate (https://linuxconfig.org/logrotate-8-manual-page) - secondly, I'd advise you to ask in the #ubuntu-server channel as this particular topic pertains to administration and not necessarily desktop operations, agree? Thirdly, I'd advise on experiementation to get the result you're looking for (which is what? You've not explained that bit)
[20:26] <anubiss> oops
[20:27] <anubiss> sarkis, can you sign it ?
[20:27] <k1l_> anubiss: so i guess it isnt upgradeing that package due to dependencies not beeing upgraded
[20:27] <Fr_Dae> !kick anubiss
[20:27] <anubiss> :(
[20:27] <k1l_> anubiss: stop that in here. you were asked not to do that. i even kicked you. next thing will be you will be banned from here
[20:27] <anubiss> ok
[20:27] <anubiss> sorry
[20:27] <anubiss> dont kick me
[20:27] <anubiss> lol
[20:28] <anubiss> please
[20:28] <anubiss> im here to learn
[20:28] <anubiss> damn it
[20:28] <anubiss> lol
[20:28] <k1l_> anubiss: then stick to technical ubuntu support in here. for chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <__zlate__> YankDownUnder: Sure
[20:29] <zack263> how do i adjust my sleep mode.. when i step away the screen goes black so fast
[20:29] <zack263> ?
[20:29] <zack263> i'll try settings
[20:30] <zack263> wow it was set to 5 minutes for screen to go off
[20:30] <zack263> pushed it up to 10
[20:30] <Sayona> Hi, can anyone help me with rsync ? i want to rsync only the modified files
[20:31] <BrianBlaze420> Sayona: that's what rsync does
[20:31] <sarkis> k1l_: ya very weird - i still see it kept back... no other packages in dist-upgrade
[20:31] <sarkis> would i be able to get logs on what exactly is going on... apt isn't really telling me much at this point
[20:31] <Sayona> BrianBlaze420, but the command it's correctly?
[20:32] <orion> Hi. Is apparmor still a thing in Xenial?
[20:32] <OnceMe> hey, I am using AuthorizedKeysFile in sshd_config for a custom location: /var/local/%u/authorized_keys but when I ssh -vvv -i myfile.pub user@host
[20:32] <OnceMe> I don't get logged in and instead I get password prompt, how come?
[20:33] <OnceMe> in /var/log/auth I don't get any bad login log
[20:33] <BrianBlaze420> Sayona: rsync -avzr
[20:33] <sarkis> ok i found it... saying java8-runtime UNAVAILABLE
[20:33] <sarkis> k1l_: i went into aptitude and found it there
[20:33] <Sayona> thanks
[20:34] <OnceMe> any thoughts for me?
[20:34] <BrianBlaze420> no worries :)
[20:34] <BrianBlaze420> OnceMe: you need to specify where the .ssh file is
[20:34] <BrianBlaze420> in your sshd_config
[20:34] <BrianBlaze420> if you don't have it in a normal place
[20:34] <BrianBlaze420> ~/.ssh/
[20:35] <OnceMe> AuthorizedKeysFile     /var/local/%u/authorized_keys
[20:35] <BrianBlaze420> I have never tried to relocate that file so I am not sure why it wouldn't work
[20:35] <OnceMe> and I have cat /var/local/myuser/authorized_keys public key in there, chmoded to 0644 chowned to user:group and not root:root and /var/local/myuser/ chmoded to 0700
[20:35] <BrianBlaze420> but maybe because of %u?
[20:36] <BrianBlaze420> when you are logged in as the user you are trying to ssh into
[20:36] <BrianBlaze420> and you do ssh-keygen -t rsa
[20:36] <BrianBlaze420> where does it try to put the files
[20:38] <OnceMe> no, I tried all of that
[20:38] <BrianBlaze420> no?
[20:38] <OnceMe> when I put it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys my public key it works, but on a custom location it does not work
[20:38] <BrianBlaze420> yeah
[20:38] <OnceMe> I tried to change %u to a full path name, but still no luck
[20:38] <BrianBlaze420> what version of ubuntu?
[20:39] <rypervenche> Sayona: That -r is redundant. I usually use: rsync -avhP /source/ /dest/
[20:39] <OnceMe> 14.04
[20:40] <Sayona> rypervenche, how abaut rsync -avzr  -e ?
[20:40] <maxstirner_> Hi there
[20:40] <Sayona> s/abaut/about
[20:40] <rypervenche> Sayona: The -r is already included in -a. The -e is set to use ssh by default. Only use '-e' if you need to specify a different SSH option, such as port.
[20:41] <OnceMe> so anyone got ideas?
[20:41] <BrianBlaze420> I am wondering if this is your problem
[20:41] <BrianBlaze420> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[20:41] <Sayona> yes
[20:41] <BrianBlaze420> you need to completely change the way your home folders are
[20:41] <psicobra> hi guys any one want to help me test some security
[20:41] <BrianBlaze420> OnceMe: :)
[20:42] <maxstirner_> well... anyone can help me?
[20:43] <rypervenche> !ask | maxstirner_
[20:43] <OnceMe> BrianBlaze420: I dont want that to be in my home folder
[20:43] <maxstirner_> ubottu, thanks
[20:43] <psicobra> just want some one to try dos attack on my server plz
[20:43] <BrianBlaze420> ah okay so then it sounds like you are complicating your life for nothing
[20:43] <maxstirner_> haha, i didn't see that come...
[20:44] <ilhami> hey
[20:44] <k1l_> psicobra: this is out of scope of this channel. maybe discuss such a topic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:44] <psicobra> ok cheers
[20:44] <BrianBlaze420> hmmm
[20:44] <BrianBlaze420> OnceMe: what if you set the file location
[20:44] <BrianBlaze420> when doing ssh-keygen
[20:45] <BrianBlaze420> without the u%
[20:45] <maxstirner_> i want to install metatrader 4 on ubuntu mate but i don't know how i should start...
[20:45] <BrianBlaze420> also important is the file is owned by the user you are trying to ssh into
[20:45] <BrianBlaze420> I am thinking by letting keygen do it it will set that all up for ya
[20:46] <maxstirner_> anyone?
[20:47] <BrianBlaze420> https://www.finfx.com/en/installing-metatrader-4-ubuntu-linux
[20:47] <BrianBlaze420> maxstirner_:
[20:47] <BrianBlaze420> :)
[20:47] <k1l_> maxstirner_: seems like you need wine for it since they dont have a linux version
[20:48] <hhee> hey
[20:48] <Langdal> Hi. I installed a newer kernel (4.4.14) to fix an error I was affected by. My problem now is that perf doesn't work (it says I might need linux-tools-4.4.14-040414-generic). This does not exist in the normal repo. Does anyone know where I can get it?
[20:48] <hhee> guys, is ubuntu 12 lts properly supported? i mean - does it get actually updates on time and so on?
[20:49] <maxstirner_> how check if installed wine? I think i has a problem with wine... and playonlinux.
[20:49] <k1l_> hhee: yes it does
[20:49] <hhee> k1l_, thx
[20:49] <maxstirner_> have...sorry.
[20:49] <DeltaMikeGolf> Hi
[20:50] <danmulvey> so i think i fell asleep on my laptop last night and sent a couple strings of garbage in here because my hands and/or face were on the keyboard... anyways, sorry about that for anyone that might have been around !
[20:50] <BrianBlaze420> lol
[20:50] <BrianBlaze420> <3
[20:50] <zykotick9> danmulvey: sleep = a poor substitute for caffine ;)
[20:51] <danmulvey> lol seriously
[20:51] <aaaavvv> hi Delta
[20:51] <danmulvey> i woke up in the middle of the night with my laptop kinda laying open on top of me and saw a hilight from billygoat and i figured either i was having a weird dream or i screwed up
[20:51] <OnceMe> someone help me
[20:51] <BrianBlaze420> rypervenche: so rsync is recursive no matter what? or unless otherwise specified?
[20:52] <maxstirner_> :s
[20:52] <BrianBlaze420> OnceMe: did you try what I said?
[20:52] <rypervenche> BrianBlaze420: Only if specified with -r or -a.
[20:52] <BrianBlaze420> make a keygen
[20:52] <BrianBlaze420> and specify the location
[20:52] <BrianBlaze420> or have you done that already
[20:52] <OnceMe> whats the point?
[20:53] <OnceMe> key is valid and working when inside ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:53] <BrianBlaze420> then ssh knows exactly where to look
[20:53] <OnceMe> its not working when its on a different location
[20:53] <BrianBlaze420> because when you keygen
[20:53] <k1l_> maxstirner_: "apt-cache policy wine" will show what and if its installed
[20:53] <BrianBlaze420> it automatically put it there
[20:53] <OnceMe> ...
[20:53] <BrianBlaze420> lol here I am going to try I am curious
[20:54] <OerHeks> what should a ssh key do on a different location?
[20:54] <BrianBlaze420> because thats where it is looking for all your ssh stuff
[20:54] <BrianBlaze420> authorized keys and all
[20:54] <BrianBlaze420> I think
[20:54] <BrianBlaze420> but I will make sure lol
[20:55] <OerHeks> the only valid answer would be a backup, i guess, not for use.
[20:55] <BrianBlaze420> yeah it seems silly to me too
[20:56] <BrianBlaze420> but I mean nothing is impossible :)
[20:57] <tatertots> whats the issue OnceMe, u say the key is working?
[20:57] <OnceMe> correct
[20:57] <OnceMe> when inside ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:57] <OnceMe> my sshd_config looks like this:
[20:57] <OnceMe> AuthorizedKeysFile     /var/local/%u/authorized_keys
[20:58] <OnceMe> AuthorizedKeysFile     %u/.ssh/authorized_keys /var/local/%u/authorized_keys
[20:58] <Langdal> Hi. I installed a newer kernel (4.4.14) to fix an error I was affected by. My problem now is that perf doesn't work (it says I might need linux-tools-4.4.14-040414-generic). This does not exist in the normal repo. Does anyone know where I can get it?
[20:58] <OnceMe> the latter one
[20:58] <ikonia> OnceMe: that is not an ubuntu config
[20:58] <ikonia> Langdal: it won't exist
[20:58] <maxstirner_> k1l_, I have ubuntu mate... does it work too? I installed ubuntu mate a few days ago before that I had ubuntu and I could install metatrader 4 without problems and it works very well
[20:58] <ikonia> Langdal: thats the pain of using the non-supported kernels
[20:58] <OnceMe> its sshd_config
[20:58] <Langdal> ikonia, so I have to reinstall the old kernel to use perf then?
[20:58] <ikonia> OnceMe: thats not the default ubuntu one
[20:59] <tatertots> let's say user1@host1 is your ssh server and ssh from user@host2 > user@host1 works
[20:59] <ikonia> Langdal: if there is no package
[20:59] <ikonia> Langdal: where did you get the kernel from ?
[20:59] <OerHeks> If you have an encrypted home directory, SSH cannot access your authorized_keys file ... To solve this, create a folder outside your home named /etc/ssh/<username> (replace "<username>"
[20:59] <k1l_> maxstirner_: the base system from ubuntu and ubuntu-mate is the same
[20:59] <maxstirner_> Is a different process with ubuntu mate? k1l_
[20:59] <tatertots> are you trying to ssh from user@host3 > user@host1?
[20:59] <maxstirner_> Oooh, sorry. I'm newbie on this.
[20:59] <OnceMe> tatertots: me?
[20:59] <k1l_> maxstirner_: no, its the same. what version of ubuntu and ubuntu-mate is this?
[20:59] <popey> Langdal: that'll be in the kernel team ppa
[20:59] <Langdal> ikonia, from the following URL. I installed 4.4.14 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:00] <ikonia> Langdal: ok, the mainline kernel
[21:00] <ikonia> it should be in there
[21:00] <maxstirner_> 16.04, both. k1l_
[21:00] <ikonia> they normally make a tools and header package for the kernels they build
[21:00] <k1l_> maxstirner_: then there is no difference.
[21:01] <maxstirner_> thanks! k1l_
[21:02] <tatertots> OnceMe look at logs for errors there's always a reason it's giving the errors it gives
[21:04] <OnceMe> well /var/log/auth is not showing anything
[21:04] <OnceMe> if thats where I look
[21:04] <ikonia> OnceMe: what is the EXACT command you are using to connect
[21:04] <tatertots> you're unable to view the connection logs on the ssh server OnceMe? yes/no
[21:05] <OnceMe> ssh -vvv -i mypriv user@myhost
[21:05] <ikonia> OnceMe: thats not the exact command
[21:05] <OnceMe> on a server side, I am able to see connection logs with tail -f /var/log/auth
[21:05] <ikonia> please show me the EXACT command
[21:06] <OnceMe> its internal host
[21:06] <ikonia> please show me the EXACT command
[21:06] <tatertots> using the logs you can tell weather a connection attempt has been made
[21:06] <KlausedSource> hey guys! i tried to run a http proxy on my system but it seems like there is no internet connection when I set up another device to use the proxy
[21:06] <OnceMe> tatertots: path to the logs?
[21:06] <KlausedSource> the devices are on the same subnet
[21:06] <KlausedSource> the second device is an android 6 and I set the proxy in WiFi settings
[21:07] <hhee> guys, after 2017 year, when ubuntu 12 lts has end of support - is repository will be exists or they will be closed same time?
[21:07] <ikonia> KlausedSource: look in the proxy logs, does it hit the proxy
[21:07] <ikonia> hhee: moved to the "old" releases archive probably
[21:07] <k1l_> hhee: they will be shut down and moved to old-releases and dont get any updates anymore
[21:08] <tatertots> once me spell out your problems in detail, provide pastebin of logs when asked
[21:08] <KlausedSource> ikonia, I am afraid it is a very small proxy (part of another program for another purpose) I think it doesn't log incoming connections
[21:08] <KlausedSource> there is a log but it only says proxy started
[21:08] <ikonia> KlausedSource: what is the proxy application
[21:08] <tatertots> when giving your sets spell out the exact command you made
[21:08] <hhee> ikonia, got it
[21:08] <rschmukler> Hey all, I just tried to run a dist-upgrade to 16.04.1LTS and it failed half-way through. Trying to recover but can't seem to get apt to install anything. Any help would be hugely appreciated
[21:08] <KlausedSource> ikonia, this one https://github.com/kakaroto/SWProxy
[21:08] <hhee> k1l_, got it, but in old repo can i download them manually or not?
[21:09] <ikonia> rschmukler: you'll need to provide details
[21:09] <tatertots> use things like user@host1 user@host2 to try and illustrate your environment and network
[21:09] <ikonia> KlausedSource: can't support tht, never used it
[21:10] <rschmukler> ikonia: for starters, apt-get update results in https://gist.github.com/rschmukler/91be38459506012a8ef8b76cd655d146 (starting from the top here)
[21:10] <KlausedSource> ikonia, anyways the android device gets an ip from dhcp and everything seems fine only that it doesnt have internet access. Internal network works
[21:10] <KlausedSource> I think the problem is on the machine hosting the proxy not the proxy itself
[21:10] <KlausedSource> is there a setting like in windows to "share the network connection"?
[21:11] <rschmukler> ikonia: and then, running apt-get upgrade results in: https://gist.github.com/rschmukler/cb6346904265577d36306c802d16e255
[21:12] <ikonia> KlausedSource: you need to find a way to check the basics, can it connect to the ports from the client etc
[21:12] <ikonia> KlausedSource: or use a main/well known supported proxy, like squid
[21:12] <ikonia> KlausedSource: is this on ubuntu ?
[21:12] <rschmukler> ikonia: lastly, apt-get dist-upgrade still prompts about ~600MB of packages that it can install... trying to install results in the same error as above (hostname yielding insserv complaining)
[21:12] <k1l_> hhee: yes. but there is no sense in running a 12.04 after EOL. since that is a security risk. just look at ubuntu.com/usn what it means not to get thoese updates
[21:12] <ikonia> KlausedSource: is this on ubuntu ?
[21:13] <hhee> k1l_, thx
[21:13] <ikonia> rschmukler: interesting, is what is that package it's failing on (I'm not aware of it)
[21:13] <ikonia> rschmukler: is this on a VPS or a local box
[21:14] <rschmukler> ikonia: virtualizor is basically a big web interface around KVM (and other hypervisors)
[21:14] <ikonia> I'm assuming zzvirtservice is what it says, zz to make sure it starts last, virtual package
[21:14] <ikonia> 1info virtualizor
[21:14] <rschmukler> ikonia: It's a dedicated server in Kansas which I run VPSs on
[21:14] <ikonia> !info virtualizor
[21:14] <ikonia> rschmukler: what is the package name for virtualizor
[21:14] <rschmukler> ikonia: not sure, to be honest I didn't install it, somebody else did and then I inherited the box :(
[21:14] <nacc> rschmukler: that output looks very confused
[21:15] <ikonia> rschmukler: I don't see that package in the ubuntu repos
[21:15] <nacc> rschmukler: the 'service's being listed are not service names
[21:15] <ikonia> it looks like the start/stop scripts are in a loop for things that don't exist/can't be found
[21:15] <nacc> ikonia: nor do i see zzvirtservice in the archive
[21:15] <ikonia> nacc: the zz is to make sure it starts "last" I'm looking for virtualizor
[21:15] <ikonia> or *virtualizor*
[21:16] <nacc> ikonia: yeah, i don't see that one either
[21:16] <ikonia> I think it may be an external package thats just a junk pile
[21:16] <ikonia> (I could be wrong)
[21:16] <rschmukler> ikonia: I was thinking that they could be running their own repo or something. Again, not sure, inherited the box
[21:16] <ikonia> rschmukler: yeah, I can't see it in the ubuntu repos anywhere
[21:16] <ikonia> rschmukler: looks like that package is just broken.....
[21:17] <nacc> from a cursory googling, virtualizor doesn't support 16.04 yet
[21:17] <nacc> fwiw
[21:17] <ikonia> that would explain the update-rc commands
[21:17] <rschmukler> nacc: well shit
[21:18] <ikonia> rschmukler: no need to swear
[21:18] <bekks> !info virtualizor
[21:18] <rschmukler> ikonia: sorry
[21:18] <nacc> ikonia: yeah, they supported 12.04 and 14.04, afaict
[21:18] <nacc> rschmukler: yeah, this is why 3rd party stuff can be a pain :)
[21:18] <ikonia> nacc: which ties in with the upstart scripts
[21:18] <nacc> ikonia: agreed
[21:19] <rschmukler> ikonia / nacc: I don't suppose there is any easy way to roll-back to 14.04?
[21:19] <ikonia> rschmukler: no way at all, let alone an easy way
[21:19] <rschmukler> (make a backup before hand would have been a smart start :P)
[21:21] <rschmukler> Anybody have any recommendations for a web-interface for KVM management?
[21:23] <bekks> rschmukler: proxmox, but havent touched it for years.
[21:24] <ikonia> I really don't like that
[21:24] <ikonia> I don't think it's maintained properly for other distros
[21:24] <ikonia> they are trying to make it a self contained unit, which doesn't work well on other platforms
[21:26] <KlausedSource> ikonia, i was doing something wrong with my android...
[21:26] <KlausedSource> i had to "add" the proxy while i was connected to the wifi already and then it worked
[21:26] <KlausedSource> I thought the sane way would be to set proxy then disconnect and reconnect
[21:26] <KlausedSource> appearantly i was wrong
[21:32] <rschmukler> ikonia: sorry if this is a basic querstion; how can I remove the broken virtualizor package so that I don't need to completely fresh install ubuntu on the server (or, would you recommend just wiping it and starting fresh)
[21:32] <ikonia> rschmukler: what happens if you try to manually remove the package
[21:32] <ikonia> I assume the shutdown scripts fail again and go into a loop ?
[21:33] <rschmukler> ikonia: "apt-get remove virtualizor" results in "unable to locate package virtualizor"
[21:33] <ikonia> rschmukler: dpkg -l | grep -i virt
[21:33] <ikonia> rschmukler: see what's there
[21:34] <rschmukler> ikonia: nothing that looks like it to me... https://gist.github.com/rschmukler/2b00f776cacb4fbb0a9a107c09483067
[21:35] <ikonia> rschmukler: yeah, nothing obvious, need to know the package name,
[21:35] <ikonia> rschmukler: if you do "sudo apt-get udpate" can you pastebin the output - interested in where it's trying to look for packages
[21:35] <ikonia> that may allow us to look in that repo for the true package name
[21:36] <rschmukler> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/rschmukler/0fabfa2db343665e30cdf75849a4f0e9
[21:36] <Langdal> Hi! The Ubuntu Software center is doing a system update, but the "update" tab is just loading forever, so I can't see what's going on. Does anyone know if I can see what's happening, or if I can shut my PC off? Here's a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/05kf8cezoyfffr4/Skjermbilde%20fra%202016-08-05%2023-33-06.png?dl=0
[21:36] <rschmukler> ikonia: ps. thank you for taking a look! really appreciate the help :)
[21:37] <ikonia> rschmukler: good lord, that looks a mess
[21:37] <rschmukler> ikonia: yeah, I think I might just wipe the box :(
[21:37] <ikonia> rschmukler: maybe quicker and easier, that looks like someones had a real mess around with this
[21:38] <ikonia> it's fixable, but if a clean install is possible, you may find that quicker
[21:38] <rschmukler> ikonia: yeah, half-completed dist-upgrades is never where you want to come into a server :P
[21:39] <liii> omeone can help me about android phone error for playstore?
[21:39] <ikonia> liii: not really an ubuntu issue I think
[21:39] <k1l_> liii: #android might help
[21:45] <python> hi
[21:48] <ronaldsmazitis> can't install libapache2-mod-php7.0
[21:48] <ronaldsmazitis> what should I do
[21:49] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: please put all the output into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[21:50] <ronaldsmazitis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22366328/
[21:51] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: well, remove that PPA  with ppa-purge and use the original ubuntu repos?
[21:52] <ronaldsmazitis> ok, in software source right?
[21:52] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: No, remove it with ppa-purge
[21:52] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | ronaldsmazitis
[21:52] <ronaldsmazitis> how
[21:54] <ronaldsmazitis> how do I know subdirectory
[21:54] <ronaldsmazitis> sudo ppa-purge ppa: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php/ubuntu /
[21:55] <bekks> ronaldsmazitis: that PPA is the wrong one.
[21:55] <ronaldsmazitis> ppa-purge: command not found
[21:56] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: i dont know what ppa you used. he got a lot of ppas
[21:56] <ronaldsmazitis> main
[21:56] <bekks> the ppa you are using is from deb.sury.org, not from launchpad.
[21:56] <ronaldsmazitis> I think
[21:57] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php7.0
[21:57] <k1l_> that will tell you which repo you used
[21:59] <ronaldsmazitis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22367405/
[22:00] <ronaldsmazitis> so what command should I use
[22:00] <ronaldsmazitis> sudo ppa-purge http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php/ubuntu
[22:00] <ronaldsmazitis> ?
[22:00] <k1l_> no
[22:00] <k1l_> ppa:ondrej/php
[22:00] <ronaldsmazitis> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ondrej/php
[22:00] <k1l_> yes
[22:01] <soLucien> is there a specific name for a proxy that caches content ?
[22:02] <bekks> soLucien: squid
[22:03] <soLucien> yes .. does it have  a name .. is it a category of software ?
[22:03] <soLucien> there's apt-cacher-ng that does the same
[22:03] <soLucien> and many others
[22:04] <bekks> soLucien: apt-cacher-ng is a package cache, squid is a web proxy.
[22:04] <bekks> soLucien: whats your actual question?
[22:05] <soLucien> if this category of software is called somehow ..
[22:05] <ronaldsmazitis> now it shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/22368112/
[22:05] <soLucien> proxy/cacher/mirror
[22:05] <bekks> soLucien: whats the underlying problem which you are trying to solve by asking for the name of the category?
[22:06] <soLucien> name a method :)
[22:06] <soLucien> Start-Cacher / Start-ProxyCacher / Start-ProxyMirror
[22:06] <soLucien> smth like that
[22:07] <soLucien> Start-CachingWebProxy :)
[22:10] <ubuntu289> Hey everyone - I need a way to launch an sh script as root only when a new guest account starts. Any ideas?
[22:10] <ronaldsmazitis> I just can't install  libapache2-mod-php7.0
[22:10] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: did you remove that ppa?
[22:11] <ronaldsmazitis> yes
[22:11] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: then ran "sudo apt clean && sudo apt update"?
[22:11] <bekks> ubuntu289: ask the admin user to run that script after he/she creates a new guest user.
[22:12] <ubuntu289> bekks: This is going to be running on a public access computer for a public library so that really isn't an option lol
[22:12] <ronaldsmazitis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22369091/
[22:12] <bekks> ubuntu289: then how are those "new guest accounts" created?
[22:13] <ronaldsmazitis> I did however package struggles with errors
[22:13] <ubuntu289> bekks: I have lightdm auto logging into the default guest user session
[22:13] <bekks> ubuntu289: they all use the same single guest account.
[22:13] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libapache2-mod-php7.0"
[22:14] <ineedsomehelp> Hello?
[22:14] <gio> ciao
[22:14] <ubuntu289> bekks: Ubuntu creates a new account from /etc/skel
[22:14] <ronaldsmazitis> E: Internal Error, No file name for libapache2-mod-php7.0:i386
[22:14] <gio> !list
[22:14] <bekks> ubuntu289: and what is that root script supposed to do?
[22:14] <ineedsomehelp> Hi, I need some help with my touchpad... I can run an external usb mouse, but my touchpad doesn't seem to be working. I'm running a live usb of Ubuntu 16.04
[22:15] <ubuntu289> bekks: it need to check to see if a python app is running and if not launches it
[22:15] <bekks> ubuntu289: and why does your app require root?
[22:16] <maxstirner_> k1l_ again me. I have another problem. When I install wine and try to install metatrader 4 it asks me about proxy server options. Do you know how I solve this?
[22:16] <ubuntu289> bekks: So the guest user account cannot kill that process
[22:16] <k1l_> ronaldsmazitis: sudo apt purge libapache2-mod-php7.0
[22:16] <ineedsomehelp>  Hi, I need some help with my touchpad... I can run an external usb mouse, but my touchpad doesn't seem to be working. I'm running a live usb of Ubuntu 16.04
[22:16] <bekks> ubuntu289: create an application account instead, dont run your app as root.
[22:16] <bekks> !patience | ineedsomehelp
[22:16] <ubuntu289> bekks: Now thats an idea. How would I launch the script under this application account when the guest account logs in?
[22:17] <bekks> ubuntu289: and create a cronjob for that application user checking wether the app is running, and start it if it isnt running.
[22:17] <maxstirner_> There is nothing on Internet. Try every solution but they aren't work.
[22:17] <k1l_> maxstirner_: i dont know that program. look at the wine appdatabase or the windows documents what to set there
[22:18] <ubuntu289> bekks: let me do some more research on how to do an application user and I'll give that a try! Thanks for the suggestion!
[22:18] <ronaldsmazitis> thanks k1l looks like it helped to install libapache2-mod-php7.0
[22:18] <bekks> ubuntu289: sudo adduser ...
[22:18] <ineedsomehelp>  Hi, I need some help with my touchpad... I can run an external usb mouse, but my touchpad doesn't seem to be working. I'm running a live usb of Ubuntu 16.04
[22:19] <fartface> I have one specific user who is unable to ssh into a machine.  He gets connection to port 22 refused.  I'm on the same network, and can ssh in fine.  He can also ssh into another server on the same network without issue, it's just that one server that looks like it's blocking him.
[22:19] <ubuntu289> bekks: I guess I'm still a little confused. I know how to add a new user but I don't know how that will execute the script when the guest account is launched?
[22:19] <fartface> I don't see anything about his ip in the hosts.deny file, but I'm kind of at a loss of what to check next
[22:19] <fartface> Any ideas?
[22:19] <bekks> ubuntu289: if will have no connection with your guest account. just create a new user account used for your application, and create a cron job, as I stated above.
[22:19] <maxstirner_> Ok, then. k1l_
[22:19] <ubuntu289> okay I'll give it a shot
[22:19] <ubuntu289> Thanks again!
[22:20] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/i386/libapache2-mod-php7.0/download
[22:20] <beantaxi> Who was I talking to before, about video cards for 16.04?
[22:21] <OerHeks> beantaxi, radeon - AMDgpu ?
[22:22] <ineedsomehelp>  Hi, I need some help with my touchpad... I can run an external usb mouse, but my touchpad doesn't seem to be working. I'm running a live usb of Ubuntu 16.04
[22:22] <beantaxi> OerHeks: Correct! Just wanted to report, I found a cheapie GF119 GeFirce FT 610 at MicroCenter, and it's working fine
[22:23] <beantaxi> The Nouveau driver got autoselected. But I switched to the NVIDIA 361.42 driver, and so far so good
[22:23] <evil_corp>  Hi, I need some help with my touchpad... I can run an external usb mouse, but my touchpad doesn't seem to be working. I'm running a live usb of Ubuntu 16.04
[22:24] <k1l_> evil_corp: you really want to get annoying?
[22:24] <OerHeks> test>  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[22:24] <evil_corp> k1l_: No, not at all. I was just wondering if anybody was really noticing. Sorry if I happened to bother you.
[22:25] <OerHeks> test 2> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils # and use in terminal: glxgears # in this mode, en change setting vsync to blanc , and test again glxgears
[22:25] <k1l_> look for your exact laptop model and if other users had the same issue and solved that
[22:26] <evil_corp> k1l_: Alright, it's just that I've already done some of that, and I'm not really getting any solid answers
[22:27] <dhidaksj> hi! I'm trying to boot from a USB on my asus x205t laptop, but it has a crippled EFI bios that only supports booting from efi usbs. I'm wondering how I can install GRUB to my main partition on my hard drive, so that when I restart my computer, it will show the grub bootloader, and hopefully detect my USB
[22:27] <dhidaksj> Is this possible?
[22:27] <bekks> dhidaksj: why do you think it supports booting from efi usbs only?
[22:28] <dhidaksj> I just want GRUB bootloader installed on my laptop that has windows essentially. I'm on ubuntu live CD right now
[22:28] <dhidaksj> bekks because I tried booting from multiple USBs and when I loaded easybcd it said i'm running a 32 bit efi bios
[22:28] <bekks> dhidaksj: so why dont you use the live cd for installing then?
[22:28] <dhidaksj> so my bios is essentially siht
[22:28] <dhidaksj> well I'm not trying to install ubutnu that's the thing
[22:28] <dhidaksj> i need grub support
[22:28] <bekks> dhidaksj: having a 32bit efi bios doesnt tell you anything about "efi usbs only".
[22:28] <dhidaksj> that's why I came here
[22:29] <dhidaksj> well when I treid to boot from a usb it wouldn't recognize it
[22:29] <dhidaksj> it's a fat32 usb formatted as mbr
[22:29] <dhidaksj> it pretty much dosen't recognize any USBs
[22:29] <dhidaksj> so I was wondering if installing GRUB would solve this
[22:29] <bekks> dhidaksj: and how did you make that usb bootable then?
[22:29] <dhidaksj> well it was through a program called Transmac
[22:29] <dhidaksj> I'm trying to install Hackintosh.
[22:29] <bekks> dhidaksj: just putting files on it isnt enough.
[22:30] <dhidaksj> YEah it formatted it as fat32 i believe and "restored" the dmg to the USB
[22:30] <bekks> dhidaksj: Ah, so you are trying to illegaly install OSX. Those activities arent supported on this network.
[22:30] <dhidaksj> it's a well known method to make the usb bootable, but for some reason MY laptop doesn't recognize it
[22:30] <dhidaksj> yea it's not illegal, just against apple tos
[22:30] <dhidaksj> get your facts straight
[22:30] <bekks> Which makes it illegal. EOD.
[22:31] <dhidaksj> what
[22:31] <dhidaksj> well I was trying to install windows too with a duel boot and it wouldnt' recognize my windows USB either
[22:31] <dhidaksj> just so you know
[22:31] <chld> I just upgraded to 15.10. Previously I'd configured my grub to save the last used menu entry, and everything worked fine. Now, though, grub doesn't seem to be able to read from grubenv.
[22:31] <dhidaksj> the only usb it recognizes is one that's formatted as fat32 mbr
[22:32] <dhidaksj> I was merely wondering if GRUB could solve my USB booting issues :)
[22:32] <dhidaksj> can anyone helpful help me?
[22:32] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/560741/creating-a-boot-disc-and-installing-ubuntu-asus-x205ta whole stories
[22:33] <dhidaksj> yes I'M trying to install grub to my main partition
[22:33] <chld> Actually, I think it works now
[22:33] <OerHeks> its 14.04 but still valid i guess
[22:33] <dhidaksj> that's all I want. how do I install grub to my main partition?
[22:33] <bekks> chld: and now you're going to update to 16.04?
[22:33] <dhidaksj> I'm on a live CD 16.04
[22:34] <dhidaksj> I only managed to boot from my Ubuntu USB  because I put something called bootefia32 into my boot directory on my ubuntu stick
[22:34] <dhidaksj> so I was just wondering how I install grub
[22:34] <dhidaksj> I would preferably like to install the bootloader only, no ubuntu
[22:34] <dhidaksj> is this possible?
[22:34] <ubuntu289> bekks: Sorry to bare the bad news but I added a new user account and added the following to the crontab '@rebooot /bin/name-of-my-script'. This shell script of mine just starts a while loop looking for a python script that builds out a GUI application using tkinter. I can see the script is running with cron at reboot but it's to early in the boot processes. The script will fail because the python script requires the window manager to
[22:35] <ubuntu289> am I missing something?
[22:35] <bekks> ubuntu289: Yes. you are using @reboot, which will start the script only once and will not check for a running script every few minutes.
[22:35] <dhidaksj> bekk can you help me ? :)
[22:36] <dhidaksj> This isn't about anything but installing GRUB.
[22:36] <dhidaksj> How would I go about this?
[22:37] <ubuntu289> Will cron be able to run the script continually if I don't specify a time interval?
[23:05] <arooni> hey folks!  i've got ubuntu 16.04 upgraded from 14.04 on my lenovo t420 laptop.  i love it!  but now twice when trying to resume from suspend; i saw the caps lock key flashing and had to shut down my laptop and restart it.  anyway to track down why and fix it ?  thanks!
[23:07] <backbox> hello
[23:07] <Newman101> Looks like it's a common problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302
[23:07] <arooni> oh no, won't fix ? :(
[23:08] <Newman101> No workaround so far, AFAIK. :(
[23:08] <tendietime> hello
[23:08] <arooni> Newman101: so is there a way to run with a different kernel?  or i just have to wait?
[23:09] <tendietime> how is everyone?
[23:09] <vbotka> arooni, still, you might want to review /var/log/pm-suspend.log
[23:09] <arooni> how do i find out what kernel version i'm running?
[23:09] <ikonia> uname -r
[23:10] <arooni> 4.4.0-31-generic
[23:10] <Newman101> arooni: To be honest, Lenovos should have the best Ubuntu support out there. Need to investigate if there is a workaround.
[23:11] <arooni> reviewing my suspend log, it looks like suspend works sometimes
[23:11] <k1l_> arooni: flashing caps sounds like a kernel panic. look at the logs what happend
[23:11] <arooni> k1l_: yeah just curious which logs to investigate?
[23:11] <ikonia> lenovo's hardware is very strong with ubuntu but some versions of the power management firmware / bios is terrible with ubuntu
[23:11] <Newman101> AFAIK the biggest issue here is graphics harware.
[23:12] <arooni> i think i have the latest bios available for this laptop
[23:12] <k1l_> /var/log/syslog. and look at the recycled ones too to find the timing of the issue
[23:12] <ikonia> also some of the nvidia mode switching in some models is not great with newer versions of prime
[23:12] <arooni> is there a way to query what version of bios i have via the command line?
[23:12] <ikonia> what is the point of querying the bios version - what are you going to do with that ?
[23:12] <ikonia> repeat it into the channel ?
[23:12] <tatertots> arooni you should determine if the problem is consistently reproducible and what steps are need to reproduce the problem
[23:13] <arooni> ikonia: i guess try to find out if that might be causing the issue if theres a newer version available; i coudl install it and see if it improved thigns
[23:13] <ikonia> arooni: thats just random
[23:13] <ikonia> arooni: just randomly changing versions on things for no reason is not going to help anyone
[23:15] <vbotka> arooni, dmidecode tells you about bios
[23:18] <Guy1524> Do any of you know of an equivalent of gnome's 'Drop Down Terminal' extension for unity?
[23:18] <tatertots> you won't know if it improved things if you don't narrow it down to being consistently reproducible first, without that it could be a coincidence or other variables
[23:19] <xangua> Guy1524: guake
[23:19] <BryanCo> guake?
[23:19] <Guy1524> k thx
[23:19] <arooni> well it certainly appears intermittant ; i could successfully resume twice; once from suspending via albert and the other time via the powermenu
[23:19] <arooni> you folks are right; the only way forward is to find the exact conditions that make it reproducible
[23:19] <Guy1524> from webpage: "Guake Terminal - What is it? Guake is a top-down terminal for Gnome"
[23:19] <Guy1524> I want one for unity
[23:19] <xangua> Guy1524: there are other new alternatives but that's the one I remember from years ago
[23:20] <xangua> You're welcome
[23:20] <tatertots> by trying to consistently reproduce the issue it also gives you a time stamp time frame to look for in the logs
[23:20] <arooni> intermittant problems are really the hardest to track down
[23:25] <tatertots> intermittent issues can be a beast
[23:37] <Adam^work> Trying to find a more modern howto for setting up a mail server on ubuntu-server, anyone have a good link? The one I've been running off from looks to be from 2014, and I'm not sure if it still applies to today's versions of postfix/dovecot/etc
[23:39] <berlengas> Hi!
[23:40] <Guest1699> Hi! Any idea how to get a passive DisplayPort => HDMI cable working on 16.04 (Intel graphics, and it obviously works, because the screen works while BIOS/grub are active, it only stops working when Ubuntu/X11 comes up).
[23:40] <teward> Guest1699: open the display settings, does it show the external monitor but in an "Off" state?
[23:40] <yacc_> teward, nope, it does not.
[23:41] <Newman101> Adam^work: E-mail server I guess?
[23:41] <yacc_> It only shows the other display on the HDMI port.
[23:42] <Newman101> Adam^work: the basic setup has not changed that much to be honest.
[23:42] <Adam^work> okay
[23:42] <Adam^work> thanks Newman101
[23:43] <Newman101> Adam^work: For 14.04: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-run-your-own-mail-server-with-mail-in-a-box-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:43] <Newman101> Adam^work: that's one example how to do it.
[23:45] <Newman101> Digital Ocean tutorials have been in general pretty trustworthy. :)
[23:46] <bekks> Really, I've seen a lot of crap in their tutorials.
[23:47] <Newman101> "In general"
[23:48] <Newman101> Seen some crap but to be honest, the general trend is that once you trust and verify it should be OK
[23:48] <Newman101> *trust but verify
[23:49] <Newman101> There are worse sources than DigitalOcean. Much worse to be honest.
[23:52] <solarbird> so this morning on ubuntu 16.04 LTS i tried doing an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade combination and it rendered my gnome3 installation unable to let anyone log in
[23:53] <solarbird> i had to go back to the previous root image and restore from that, i could not fix it.
[23:53] <solarbird> trying again produced the same results.
[23:53] <yacc_> Ok, xrandr claims that DP1, DP2 and HDMI1 exist but are not connected, ...
[23:57] <solarbird> Here's the list of packages it wants to upgrade: firefox firefox-locale-en firefox-locale-ja grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common less libegl1-mesa libgbm1 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libgles1-mesa libgles2-mesa libllvm3.8 libwayland-egl1-mesa libxatracker2 mesa-vdpau-drivers snapd xserver-common xserver-xephyr xserver-xorg-core
[23:58] <solarbird> I am assuming that it's one of the xserver- packages.
[23:59] <soLucien> hi guys ! If i want to create a VM that works fine with networking (as in dynamically discovers devices at boot time), what should i install on a linux box ?
[23:59] <bekks> soLucien: every linux works fine with networking.