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Geomis there a signifacant changes  in performance running a lower version of server?04:04
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Vmongguys..10:11
Vmongcan anyone help me with copy / paste issue between ubuntu vmware and host computer10:11
Vmongthanks in advance10:11
patdk-lapvmong, read the vmware manual11:38
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sypherI'm curious as to why Ubuntu handles bonded interface configurations differently than Debian. http://paste.ubuntu.com/22444516/13:11
sypherWell, more specifically, I know that in trusty, this was a consequence of upstart, though I never got under the hood to determine why. With xenial on systemd, I'm only more perplexed.13:13
qman__both configurations _should_ work on both13:20
qman__specifyinng bond-master or bond-slaves does operate slightly differently and I usually do the latter config13:21
qman__I've not verified myself that they do on the current versions, but if they don't, that's a bug13:23
sypherqman__: I'm going to make sure I'm not a moron (definite possibility), but the first style generally doesn't work correctly in xenial. I'll try it again.13:24
qman__well, the catch with the first style is that if the slaves aren't up, the bond doesn't come up13:25
qman__the second style brings the bond up independently of the slaves, then the slaves bring themselves up as they can13:25
qman__that's why I prefer the second13:25
sypherqman__: i.e. if the switchports are off?13:25
qman__yes, or unplugged, or a driver bug or race condition messes things up13:25
sypherShould I be setting the child interfaces to hotplug instead of auto, then, to take better advantage of that?13:26
qman__I'm not actually sure on the difference between those two settings, let me check what mine are at13:26
qman__yeah, mine are allow-hotplug13:28
sypherAs I understand it, allow-hotplug allows the interface to come up or down based on connection events.13:30
sypherRather than "it must be there, or die."13:30
patsTomsmorning. So if I a do nmap to ubuntu 14 server I it shows that there is "25/tcp filtered smtp" open. But when I run netstat in server using root - it don't show any activity in port 2513:42
patsTomsis there any way to found what keeps that port open?13:42
sypherfiltered doesn't mean open.13:49
sypherfiltered means no response at all.13:49
qman__right13:49
qman__are you running this scan over the internet, or locally?13:49
sypherA closed port will still generate a response in the form of a TCP RST.13:50
sypherA filtered port means that your incoming TCP SYN just got dropped into the ether. Not even a RST response.13:50
qman__most residential internet providers filter port 25 to prevent spam, and even some business ones do unless you specifically ask for it to be open13:51
sypherqman__: Thank you for the pointers on lag config, btw.13:56
Geom`w00t14:05
Geom`srill no reply re my concern?14:06
ikoniawhat concern14:06
ikoniayou've just joined - said nothing then said "w00t"14:06
ikoniawhat do you expect ?14:06
Geom`is there any significant change in speed n n lower server version compared to the latest?14:08
ikoniawhat ???14:08
* sypher just stares blankly.14:08
Geom`say.... 12.0.4 vs 16 (server version) is there performance difference in speed wise14:10
ikoniano14:10
ikonianot really14:10
sypherGeom`: You also need to be concerned with the fact that support for 12.04 ends in, what, eight months?14:10
Geom`ahh  ok. downloading 16 then14:13
Geom`i only have c2d with 4 gb ram. speed is my concern14:14
ikoniathats fine14:14
ikoniait really depends what you are going to do and the load on it14:14
ikoniathats a lot of resource14:14
Geom`file sharing and video conversion14:15
ikoniaso thats fine14:15
ikonia you could do that on a raspberry pi14:15
Geom`Great!14:15
Geom`thanks ikonia :)14:16
sypherGeom`: btw, 16.04 has been GREAT for me so far.14:16
sypherGeom`: You'll love it.14:16
Geom`i hope sypher... installing now14:19
Geom`will it even run fine on a P4?14:20
qman__yes, though you can run into bugs with kernel modesetting on some video chips from that era14:22
qman__it will run on systems as old as the Pentium II14:22
qman__unfortunately it does not run on my AMD K6, which lacks the i686 CPU extensions14:23
qman__the last version that had a kernel compatible with it was 10.0414:23
Geom`i also have the K6. il keep that in mind if ever il try it14:30
qman__well, it required manually installing the -386 kernel, the standard kernel won't run on it, but 10.04 was the last version where the -386 kernel existed14:34
Geom`im not a hardware guy.. what i have is this http://specsen.com/motherboard-epox/epox-ep-8hda5-/ is this K6?14:37
Geom`im not so sure what the cpu is14:37
Geom`oh its K8 :)14:41
tewardGeom`: um, in the modern era that's the Athlon 64 chips.  (They don't use hte K nomenclature anymore)15:35
teward(it's an amd64 arch)15:36
teward(I have at least twelve such series' chips lying around heh)15:36
tewardblah nevermind me :)15:39
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