[00:21] <jimtendo-X202EP> Hi all, anyone know what parameter I might be able to add while booting from GRUB to make Kubuntu 16.04 boot into a terminal (as opposed to KDE)?
[00:57] <acheronuk> clivejo: understood. presumably won't want keyring pw again after 1hr
[00:57] <acheronuk> lintian
[00:57] <acheronuk> yes, hope it does!
[00:57] <acheronuk> night clive :)
[02:15] <ubuntu> hello
[02:16] <Guest95388> test
[02:20] <valorie> testing what, Guest95388?
[02:21] <Guest95388> wasn't sure if this still worked im running kbuntu 7.01
[02:21] <valorie> ?
[02:21] <valorie> there is no such thing
[02:21]  * valorie is running kubuntu 16.10 which is alpha still
[02:22] <Guest95388> kbuntu based on ubuntu 7
[02:22] <Guest95388> 7.04
[02:23] <Guest95388> not 7.01
[02:24] <valorie> I have no clue to what you refer
[02:24] <valorie> Kubuntu is at base Ubuntu
[02:24] <valorie> with KDE software
[02:24] <Guest95388> do you know that kbuntu is based yeah\
[02:24] <Guest95388> do you know of ubuntu 7.04
[02:25] <valorie> are you perhaps thinking of Plasma 5.7.2?
[02:26] <Guest95388> the kde environment I am running is release 3.5.6
[02:27] <valorie> Guest95388: you are truly running Ubuntu 7.04 and a KDE 3?
[02:27] <valorie> impressive
[02:28] <Guest95388> I got this old disk at a garage sale with some windows pe and other stuff
[02:28] <valorie> that sounds like 2002 or so
[02:28] <valorie> wow
[02:28] <valorie> congratulations
[02:29] <Guest95388> ubuntu 7.04 it says when I run cat /etc/issue
[02:30] <valorie> $ cat /etc/issue
[02:30] <valorie> Ubuntu Yakkety Yak (development branch) \n \
[02:30] <valorie> we are at the opposite ends of the spectrum!
[02:30] <Guest95388> yeah and cat /etc/debian_version is 4.0
[02:30] <ahoneybun> holy
[02:30] <valorie> what kit are you running this on, Guest95388?
[02:32] <Guest95388> you mean version of kde?
[02:32] <Guest95388> I also have a dapper drake disk
[02:33] <valorie> no, I mean computer
[02:33] <valorie> old, or new?
[02:33] <Guest95388> ran xp has a centrino rn
[02:33] <Guest95388> ddr2
[02:34] <valorie> not many boxes still have disk drives
[02:34] <Guest95388> cd no floppy
[02:34] <valorie> not sure we have one around still
[02:34] <valorie> oooo, CD, how fancy and new!
[02:34] <valorie> lol
[02:34] <Guest95388> and dvd
[02:34] <Guest95388> I have some dvd ram disks
[02:40] <ahoneybun> oh boy
[02:41] <ahoneybun> I think I snapped and broke my machine
[02:42] <valorie> um
[02:42] <valorie> I don't think that's how it's sposed ta work
[02:42] <ahoneybun> it was trying to remove a bunch of packages
[02:42] <ahoneybun> but I thought it was doing it to the snap
[02:42] <valorie> sudo apt -f install
[02:42] <valorie> should fix?
[02:42] <ahoneybun> idk
[02:42] <ahoneybun> no errors
[02:43] <ahoneybun> but I think if I reboot it will not boot up
[03:48] <xRabbitx> yo im new to irc so i dont know the etiquette. But im having some issues, can someone help me?
[03:50] <xRabbitx> anyone had this problem, you type: sudo whatever command, and then it prompts username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[03:50] <xRabbitx> ?
[03:51] <xRabbitx> all solutions i have found ironically require root access
[03:52] <ahoneybun> I've seen it
[03:53] <ahoneybun> means you don't have permission to use sudo
[03:53] <ahoneybun> !info sudo
[03:53] <ahoneybun> !info sudoers
[03:53] <ahoneybun> mm
[03:54] <dax> (sudoers is a file that you edit with visudo, both of which are contained in the sudo package)
[03:54] <xRabbitx> I mean i did have permission to use sudo, idk what changed
[03:54] <ahoneybun> vi might be a bit hard to new people
[03:54] <dax> and yes, in order to regain sudo access, which gives you root access, you need to have root access. if this weren't the case, it'd be rather trivial to get root access on things you're not supposed to :P
[03:54] <dax> ahoneybun: it opens with default editor, so nano
[03:54] <ahoneybun> oh I still use nano <3
[03:54] <ahoneybun> thanks for the info dax
[03:54] <xRabbitx> kate is my default
[03:55]  * ahoneybun updates his machine to yakkety staging
[03:55] <dax> correct procedure here is "boot from livecd or in single user mode and edit /etc/sudoers", but I'm multitasking so can't walk through it
[03:55] <dax> !password
[03:56] <dax> first link describes single user mode
[03:57] <xRabbitx> i thought you were gonna say live disk :(, my bios has some issue with live usbs so i have to burn a cd. ok thanks i will edit the sudoers file
[03:58] <xRabbitx> cheers for your help
[04:46] <mikeplus64> anyone know why qt themes might not be applying in kubuntu 16.04 [actually ubuntu 16.04 after installing kubuntu-desktop]? everything is themed with the default (raleigh?) theme
[04:46] <mikeplus64> setting it in qtconfig[-qt4] does set the theme for qtconfig itself but nothing else, and changing it in systemsettings does nothing
[04:47] <mikeplus64> i can see the preview of the themes fine in systemsettings but it just doesn't apply
[04:47] <mikeplus64> er, i mean 'widget styles'
[04:49] <valorie> mikeplus64: a few people found that they had to change theme and then change back to get it to "stick"
[04:49] <valorie> nobody has figured out why yet
[04:53] <mikeplus64> no luck after switching it back and forth and logging in/out just to be "sure"
[04:53] <mikeplus64> the icon theme also doesn't get applied, strange
[04:54] <mikeplus64> i think it's just qt5 things that don't get themed which is basically everything lol
[04:54] <valorie> did you by chance run systemsettings as root or something?
[04:55] <mikeplus64> nope
[04:55] <mikeplus64> qt4 programs like cantata get themed
[04:55] <valorie> because that sounds possibly like a permissions issue
[04:56] <mikeplus64> the setting is retained in systemsettings
[04:57] <mikeplus64> hm, i changed the gtk2 theme in systemsettings -> app. style -> gnome application style, and now everything is themed using the gtk2 breeze style (it's just not the same, man :'()
[04:57] <mikeplus64> that's despite the qt widget style being breeze proper
[04:58] <mikeplus64> err, by everything i mean qt5 stuff
[04:58] <valorie> that's extremely strange
[05:17] <mikeplus64> removing appmenu-qt5 seemed to fix it
[05:17] <mikeplus64> weird
[05:25] <valorie> mikeplus64: you might ask in #kde-devel about it -- not sure if that needs a BR or not, mikeplus64
[05:28] <user|15230> not update driver wireless
[05:28] <user|15230> please help
[05:29] <valorie> user|15230: what makes you think you need to update?
[05:38] <zodiac19> Affraid to ask, but is anyone there?
[05:41] <valorie> people are here, for sure
[05:42] <valorie> but that doesn't mean those of us paying attention can help ya
[05:45] <zodiac19> Eh, first time using a linux OS, I decided to get serious about  becoming a developer
[05:46] <zodiac19> not exactly looking for help so much as looking for someone who might be able to point me to a good developers channel
[05:49] <ahoneybun> developer apps or for a linux os?
[05:49] <ahoneybun> in #kubuntu-devel we work on Kubuntu
[06:14] <zodiac19> Actually @ahoneybun Game development and Operating system functions
[06:17] <zodiac19> not exactly apps so much as looking into creating different, simpler, or easier OS functions
[06:18] <zodiac19> right now though I'm barely a beginner developer, I'm learning Ruby and I dabble in Web dev.
[06:23] <Elec_A> is this ppa safe : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ivan-safonov/ppa ?
[06:23] <Elec_A> I want to experience live wallpapers in KDE Plasma 5.
[06:23] <valorie> zodiac19: hang out in #kubuntu-devel and see if you like it
[06:24] <valorie> we use some Ruby and have some webdev work sometimes as well
[06:24] <YankDownUnder> Elec_A: Um...where did you find that PPA?
[06:25] <Elec_A> YankDownUnder: In the description of this youtube video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj8VSp3dTjU
[06:25] <Elec_A> YankDownUnder: and also here : https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=129561
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> Hmm...well, have fun with that...just always be careful about PPA's...because that IS part of your "core"...
[06:27] <Elec_A> YankDownUnder: So, how can I know if a ppa is safe or not ?
[06:27] <zodiac19> thanks valorie
[06:28] <YankDownUnder> Elec_A: Well, it wouldn't be in a KDE forum (or other Ubuntu forum)...so, before adding something, it's a good call on your part to "suss" it out before anything else...paranoia is a good thing...
[06:28] <Elec_A> YankDownUnder: This ppa contains a package that will add snow effect on wallpaper (not tested yet myself).
[06:29] <Elec_A> YankDownUnder: Thanks :)
[06:29] <ahoneybun> any users PPA are untrusted other then them signing the Ubuntu CoC
[06:29] <YankDownUnder> Elec_A: Rather be safe than sorry, eh? You'd be amazed at the amount of "crap" that some folks install...
[06:30] <Elec_A> Got it.  Thank you .
[06:30] <Elec_A> YankDownUnder: have you ever seen any live wallpapers on KDE Plasma 5?
[06:31] <YankDownUnder> Yes. Personally, they're a waste of resource...however, for those that like "eyecandy" it's all fine and dandy...for me, though, I work...and it's merely annoying - and it's a waste of valuable system resources that I'd rather use on something productive... :) But that's *me*...
[06:32] <Elec_A> yeah, makes sense. Thank you.
[06:33] <YankDownUnder> Elec_A: All good, bro...
[07:29] <user|80231> Hi
[07:33] <user|80231> I did install Kubuntu64 16.04 yesterday completely fresh (I was until yesterday in Lubuntu64 minimal 16.04). I have 2 problems. Problem No. 1 the cursor often (but not always) let a trace on the screen of my Laptop and Problem No. 2 the apps often opens outside of the visible screen surface. Which values are to change where?
[07:35] <user|8415> здарова всем!)))
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> user|80231: Have you looked in "System Settings" => "Display and Monitor" and made sure that your screen/screen size is correct?
[07:37] <zodiac19_> finding IRC channels is hard >.<
[07:38] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: Which channel are you looking for?
[07:39] <user|80231> Hi YankDownUnder I find the Systemsettings not in this version... (I use the for me New beautiful menu...)
[07:39] <zodiac19_> I'm actually looking for an open programming/development discussion channel
[07:40] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: Is the IRC client you're using not capable of downloading and viewing the entire Freenode channel listing? Because that's a huge plus, eh...
[07:41] <zodiac19_> not sure, completely new to linux and IRC Clients, Using Quassel
[07:42] <YankDownUnder> user|80231: "System Settings" is part of every KDE/Plasma installation...if you click on the "K" menu, then "Applications", then "Settings", then "System Settings" - you should find it...
[07:42] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: Not familar with that client - however, nearly all IRC clients are able to "fetch" the channel listing...you might have to actually read the dox, hmm...
[07:46] <zodiac19_> ah I found a channel listing, thanks ^
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: There are more than 15,000 channels...so looking for one, let alone a few, is a task...
[07:47] <zodiac19_> The search should be well worth it when i find what I'm looking for then XD
[07:48] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: You'll find what you're looking for...AND, if not on this service/server (Freenode), well, there are hundreds to choose from. :)
[07:51] <zodiac19_> I'd almost make my own channel, but then I wouldn't find the help I need lol
[07:52] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: Unless you're striving to help yourself, nah, wouldn't work very well...HOWEVER, that being said, sometimes, temporarily creating a channel with a specific "topic banner" can fetch some like-minded folks...you'll notice a heap of channels with "##" in front of them...
[07:54] <zodiac19_> and channels without descriptions
[07:55] <zodiac19_> I guess trying to start a channel it is for now O.o Wish me luck
[07:57] <YankDownUnder> zodiac19_: Good luck on that - and here is a link - just to acquaint you with IRC - and how to go about things...it's basic, but you'll get the picture - and you'll also find out just exactly how complex it can be (it's been around for a long long time, mate) => http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html
[08:20] <dazdacz> kde
[08:21] <dazdacz> hi
[08:22] <zodiac19_> hello
[08:22] <dazdacz> can you do me a favor?
[08:22] <dazdacz> zodiac19_:
[08:22] <dazdacz> i need printscreen of the banlist
[08:23] <dazdacz> im making a new channel and want to collect a database beforehand of troublemakers
[08:23] <zodiac19_> Sorry to say this, but I'm new to IRC Clients, I wouldnt know where to look
[08:23] <dazdacz> ok thanks
[08:23] <YankDownUnder> dazdacz: You could probably get an entire ban list from the Freenode ops
[08:24] <dazdacz> that would be great
[08:24] <dazdacz> where are they?
[08:24] <YankDownUnder> You should be able to ask in #freenode
[08:24] <dazdacz> thanks
[08:25] <zodiac19_> I'm googleing like crazy to start a channel myself to find people with with similar interests to my goals
[08:25] <dazdacz> try reddit
[08:27] <zodiac19_> reddit is a dangerous place >.>
[08:33] <zodiac19_> And my IRC is setup :DD now Like a child who just won a candy store I will devour the nearest sweets!
[08:42] <zodiac19_> 99 errors of code on the screen, 99 errors of code, take one down, patch it around 6797 errors of code on the screen
[09:10] <valorie> !alis | zodiac19_
[09:10] <valorie> it's really useful
[09:11] <zodiac19_> I have already located 2 IRC's close to my needs, but thank you very much
[09:12] <zodiac19_> *cant type worth shit right now*
[09:23] <Tim> Hello :)!
[09:24] <Tim> I have a problem and it would be very nice if somebody could help me please. So I'll just post my problem and hopefully I do not do anything wrong
[09:24] <YankDownUnder> Post away
[09:25] <Tim> After having Kubuntu installed with the option for Auto-Login turned on, I now would like it to be off. I do not want to have an auto-login at start up (what makes every other login senseless).
[09:25] <Tim> I have set it in the settings menu as "off" but that doesn't change anything. The button does not seem to be working (in the GUI).
[09:26] <Tim> So how can I deactivate the autologin after start up?
[09:27] <Tim> I've found a wiki entry about LightDM and it's settings or config files
[09:27] <YankDownUnder> Tim: Are you using the standard DM? Or something else? Is it LightDM?
[09:28] <Tim> Well I'm not sure. I installed 16.04 Kubuntu LTS
[09:28] <YankDownUnder> here's another one to look at: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-disable-auto-login/1461
[09:29] <Tim> when I open that file - it is empty
[09:30] <YankDownUnder> So basically, look at /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf => you'll see a section [SeatDefaults] => and then autologin-user= NAME [09:30] <YankDownUnder> Tim: So if it's empty, WHAT is the DM that you're running? Is it "sddm" perhaps?
[09:34] <YankDownUnder> I'll wait for ya to come back.
[10:25] <LloydL> how to run updates after Kubuntu 16.04 installed?
[10:31] <ikonia> muon
[11:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:10] <zodiac19_> morning, and nice to meet ya
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hi zodiac19_
[11:12] <zodiac19_> so what kind of development do you do?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> I mainly test OSs under development, leaving the devs to do the devel stuff
[11:16] <BluesKaj> if you're looking for the devel chat it's at #kubuntu-devel
[11:18] <BluesKaj> and what's your interest in development , zodiac19_?
[11:21] <zodiac19_> I'm already lurking there, I'm looking to become a game developer and an OS system functions designer (of sorts anyway)
[11:22] <ikonia> OS system functions designer ?? what is that
[11:23] <zodiac19_> I want to work on making certain features and components to opperating systems more efficient and easier to use
[11:23] <ikonia> thats not a real job
[11:24] <ikonia> never mind, it's nothing to do with this channel
[11:26] <zodiac19_> lol, Neither of my interests have anything to do with this channel lol
[11:28] <zodiac19_> Basically what I want to do with Operating systems is complicated, but right now I'm just a beginner at development in every sense
[12:13] <ubuntu704> yellow
[12:25] <ikonia> "hello"
[12:47] <soee> hiho ikonia
[12:49] <zodiac19_> greetings
[15:24] <mati> hola
[16:57] <Ian_C> Afternoon!
[17:00] <Ian_C> Does anyone fancy talking to me about bluetooth dongles?
[17:00] <sithlord48> what about them ?
[17:01] <Ian_C> How to make them reliable on kb 16.10
[17:04] <Ian_C> I have a  couple of horribly cheap Chinese import BT devices which seem to work fine on my phone but not on kubuntu. I suspect the problem is my USB BT dongle.
[17:04] <Ian_C> Which is also horribly cheap.
[23:03] <Finetundra> Good evening everyone. For some reason my driver manager is not functioning. What would be the best way to get the proper nvidia drivers for my card?
[23:15] <ahoneybun> you can install it from konsole if need be
[23:16] <valorie> Finetundra: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[23:16] <valorie> from the cli
[23:16] <ahoneybun> you can find the number http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[23:16] <Finetundra> ahoneybun: so you reccomend me downloading and installing the one from the nvidia site?
[23:17] <ahoneybun> no, you could fine the version you need
[23:17] <ahoneybun> apt search nvidia-36* maybe
[23:17] <ahoneybun> but the way valorie said is better
[23:17] <ahoneybun> did not know about that command
[23:17] <Finetundra> Oh shoot, I completly overlooked what she said
[23:17] <valorie> heh
[23:18] <Finetundra> Sorry :(
[23:18] <valorie> np, searching out what you need is best before you run the above command anyway
[23:18] <valorie> since you will be given a choice
[23:19] <Finetundra> hmm, well 361 is the latest on offer from the command above but 367 is latest on the site
[23:19] <Finetundra> So I should just use the one form the repos?
[23:20] <ahoneybun> there is a graphics ppa
[23:20] <ahoneybun> for newer versions
[23:20] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[23:20] <ahoneybun> just be careful with PPA's
[23:21] <ahoneybun> that is an official but you should know how to use ppa-purge if needed
[23:21] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[23:21] <Finetundra> to add it, sudo apt-add ppa: ppa:address, right?
[23:21] <ahoneybun> thanks valorie
[23:22] <ahoneybun> add-apt-repoitory
[23:22] <ahoneybun> says on that page ;)
[23:22] <Finetundra> Ah right
[23:24] <ahoneybun> nice after adding the ppa, ubuntu-drivers list shows the new ones
[23:25] <ahoneybun> valorie: trying NVIDIA on yakkety
[23:25] <ahoneybun> lol
[23:26] <valorie> I wasn't willing to try another driver without having my son around to fix
[23:26] <ahoneybun> lol
[23:26] <valorie> he had to blacklist something to get kubuntu to install properly in the first place
[23:27] <ahoneybun> odd
[23:27] <valorie> it's a newish gaming laptop
[23:27] <valorie> it was hard to find a linux distro that would run well on it
[23:27] <ahoneybun> mm maybe bumblebee does not work on the new 950m or something
[23:28] <valorie> unsure of the details -- he and scarlett worked on it
[23:28] <ahoneybun> yea
 Rebooting
[23:30] <Finetundra> valorie or ahoneybun: So I just do sudo apt install <driver name> right?
 Yea its a package that sets everything up
[23:30] <clivejo> Finetundra: did you try the driver manager?
 I got the login
 clivejo that's broke atm
[23:31] <Finetundra> clivejo: doesn't function for whatever reason, but I can check it since I just added the new ppa. Doubt it'll make a difference though
[23:31] <clivejo> its fine its xapian is broken
[23:32] <Finetundra> Well, if you can tell me how to fix it I'm happy to follow along
[23:32] <clivejo> open a terminal
[23:33] <clivejo> sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[23:33] <clivejo> run that command
[23:33] <ahoneybun> valorie: and we are up
[23:33] <ahoneybun> sweet
[23:33] <clivejo> then open the driver manager again
[23:34] <Finetundra> clivejo: erm, that didn't work
[23:34] <Finetundra> sudo: update-apt-xapian-index: command not found
[23:35] <clivejo> ok needs installed
[23:35] <clivejo> sudo apt install apt-xapian-index
[23:35] <ahoneybun> I think it is in yakkety or installed from something
[23:35] <ahoneybun> !info driver-manager
[23:35] <ahoneybun> !info kcm-driver-manager
[23:35] <ahoneybun> !info kde-driver-manager
[23:36] <clivejo> its broken in yakkety, a fix was uploaded but it didnt fix the problem
[23:36] <ahoneybun> opened for me now
[23:36] <clivejo> kinda made it worse :/
[23:36] <ahoneybun> but I ran that command first
[23:36] <clivejo> yeah you have to run it first
[23:36] <Finetundra> clivejo: still doesn't work man
[23:36] <clivejo> Finetundra: what version are you running?
[23:37] <Finetundra> 16.04
[23:37] <clivejo> and you installed the package
[23:37] <Finetundra> The one you told me to, yes
[23:37] <ahoneybun> it was installed already here
[23:37] <clivejo> then run update-apt-xapian-index
[23:38] <clivejo> the key is running that update
[23:38] <Finetundra> Well I'll be damned
[23:38] <Finetundra> It worked!
[23:39] <clivejo> it just needs that index
[23:39] <Finetundra> So what might have happened to cause it not to be there?
[23:39] <clivejo> a mix of old and new not playing well together
[23:40] <Finetundra> Makes sense
[23:41] <clivejo> it should detect your driver and install it for you
[23:41]  * ahoneybun wonders why his razer drivers are not working
[23:42] <ahoneybun> can't find the app at all
[23:42] <clivejo> too sharp
[23:42] <ahoneybun> for my keyboard
[23:43] <clivejo> who needs a light up keyboard anyways!
[23:43] <ahoneybun> well since i have it
[23:43] <Finetundra> I need to relog for the driver change to take effect, right?
[23:43] <clivejo> probably need a reboot
[23:43] <Finetundra> Then I will see you all shortly
[23:44] <ahoneybun> reboot is best
[23:44] <clivejo> I need you to turn it off, wait turty seconds and turn it back on again
[23:44] <ahoneybun> yay he did build for yakkety
[23:48] <Finetundra> Something is a little not right
[23:48] <Finetundra> My desktop isn't appearing on my right hand monitor however it IS detected and useable
[23:49] <Finetundra> Anybody have any ideas?
[23:50] <Finetundra> I can drag windows over to the second monitor but there's no desktop and the panel has decided to go to the other screen
[23:51] <Finetundra> I'm just gonna reboot again and see what happens
[23:57] <Tundra> Plasma has decided title bars are no longer a thing
[23:58] <Tundra> I seem to have made a mistake
[23:59] <Finetundra> Titlebars are a thing again