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| Bashing-om | A pause for the cause - my eyes are crossing . G Nite . | 05:04 |
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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 07:23 |
| ducasse | morning, lotuspsychje - how are you? | 07:23 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse im fine mate tnx | 07:24 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: did you read the snap find article? | 07:24 |
| ducasse | yes, i did. surprised it got that much attention. | 07:24 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah thought the same :p | 07:24 |
| OerHeks | hi lotuspsychje ducasse | 07:25 |
| lotuspsychje | sudo snap find . it is | 07:25 |
| ducasse | morning, OerHeks | 07:25 |
| lotuspsychje | hey OerHeks | 07:25 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: as the article says, that will only list 100 snaps, not all | 07:25 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 07:25 |
| lotuspsychje | well i missing the same in software store on ubuntu-touch aswell | 07:26 |
| ducasse | i don't think it's right of canonical to say "write your own tool for this" | 07:26 |
| lotuspsychje | * gives the last 100 apps aswell, not all | 07:26 |
| OerHeks | man i can write tons of such articles, with our chats as basis | 07:27 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:27 |
| ducasse | :) | 07:27 |
| OerHeks | .. but no credit :-( | 07:27 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps there's a spy in here, writing stuff based on our conversations :p | 07:27 |
| ducasse | <_< | 07:27 |
| lotuspsychje | [SpyB0t] | 07:28 |
| lotuspsychje | hi baizon | 07:28 |
| baizon | hi lotuspsychje | 07:28 |
| OerHeks | ducasse, did you check out uappexplorer-cli ? | 07:29 |
| ducasse | not yet, i just looked at the website. | 07:29 |
| OerHeks | oh, and this dude didn't mention you experience the search issue in proposed ?? | 07:30 |
| OerHeks | i can write 2x as much articles that way | 07:30 |
| lotuspsychje | !info snapd | 07:32 |
| ubot5 | snapd (source: snapd): Tool to interact with Ubuntu Core Snappy.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.11+0.16.04 (xenial), package size 3789 kB, installed size 18148 kB | 07:32 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: got the same issue on this version aswell, in main | 07:32 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ snap find | 07:32 |
| lotuspsychje | error: cannot list snaps: empty query | 07:32 |
| OerHeks | oh right | 07:34 |
| ducasse | there should be a "snap show", there is obviously more metadata "snap find" doesn't list. | 07:34 |
| OerHeks | but there was a difference between stable and proposed | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | think it recently updated | 07:35 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: that is the version from proposed | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | im not on proposed | 07:36 |
| OerHeks | me neither | 07:36 |
| ducasse | no, it has migrated to updates | 07:36 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 07:36 |
| ducasse | odd it went through that quickly... | 07:37 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/snapd-2-11-released-new-features | 07:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: so it wasnt a unity thing afterall | 07:39 |
| ducasse | nope :) | 07:39 |
| ducasse | libreoffice? not available yet, it seems... | 07:40 |
| lotuspsychje | i wonder how that works on the m10 tablet with libreoffice | 07:41 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-things-you-should-know-about-the-bq-aquaris-m10-tablet/ | 07:45 |
| ducasse | 11 "hello world" snaps - is that really necessary? In addition there are a bunch of test snaps. | 07:46 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:46 |
| OerHeks | get them all! | 07:47 |
| lotuspsychje | http://snapcraft.io/ | 07:52 |
| ducasse | interesting tablet article, lotuspsychje - have you tried the tablet yourself? | 08:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: not yet, i still have the nexus7 with touch | 08:03 |
| ducasse | it's a bit pricey, but looks promising. too bad there aren't other interfaces, though ;) | 08:04 |
| lotuspsychje | im actually hoping they will find a way to install touch on 'any' device | 08:05 |
| lotuspsychje | that would make it interesting | 08:05 |
| ducasse | like any android phone? | 08:05 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 08:05 |
| lotuspsychje | i hear next OTA will bring android support | 08:05 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-13-delayed-for-september-7-to-bring-android-6-0-bsp-support-507029.shtml | 08:06 |
| lotuspsychje | thrilling news :p | 08:07 |
| baizon | yay, skype is dead :D | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 08:12 |
| baizon | the last person i talked to that used skype finally switched to google, so no need for skype. I can finally remove it from my pc | 08:13 |
| lotuspsychje | oh they hacked iranian telegram accounts recently | 08:15 |
| lotuspsychje | opensource and safety needs a new lookup | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: have you tried this yet? https://ring.cx/ | 08:18 |
| baizon | nope | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | me neither | 08:19 |
| ducasse | looks interesting | 08:21 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 08:21 |
| ducasse | ofc useless if nobody switches to it :) | 08:22 |
| lotuspsychje | thats always the problem | 08:23 |
| lotuspsychje | the big masses always stick of whats known/popular | 08:23 |
| ducasse | i've got to try this one, and convince a couple of others to install it. that's the hard part. | 08:24 |
| lotuspsychje | nobody cares of security for the ease of whatsapp, snapchat, fb chat etc | 08:25 |
| lotuspsychje | individuality narrow blindness | 08:25 |
| ducasse | my mother keeps insisting i use fb chat to send her messages, i keep refusing :) | 08:25 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 08:25 |
| lotuspsychje | same here i dont throw out personal data out there | 08:26 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: what do they mean by "vivid overlay" on the ota13 article? has ubuntu touch only got packages from the vivid repos? | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: no the ubuntu touch image is still based on 15.04 but that doesnt mean its eol | 08:32 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: works in another way then ubuntu desktop | 08:32 |
| ducasse | i see. so it gets newer packages? | 08:33 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: packages are linked to the ubuntu software app store and all are available | 08:33 |
| ducasse | get it, thx :) | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: but im bit unsure how thats linked to snap and apt-get | 08:34 |
| ducasse | the nexus devices can run touch, right? is a nexus 5 powerful enough? | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 08:34 |
| OerHeks | lets count to 10 for the next ban in #ubuntu | 08:34 |
| ducasse | i friend has one for sale.. | 08:35 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: check !devices in #ubuntu-touch | 08:35 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure everything works on n5 | 08:35 |
| ducasse | thanks, i will. | 08:36 |
| lotuspsychje | but its surely installable | 08:36 |
| ducasse | it would be fun to play with, i want a phone with a full emacs :) | 08:37 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i use it as my daily driver | 08:37 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: just keep in mind, you cant install packages the terminal way like ubuntu desktop | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: for that you have to unlock phone dir, and updates wont work anymore | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: for safety they built it this way, only apps from the store can be installed | 08:38 |
| ducasse | aha, i see. you can only install what's available through the store without doing that? | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | i wanted this feature ate the start also, so i could install lets say nmap the terminal way.. | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | but no luck :p | 08:39 |
| ducasse | snaps will probably fix that at some point, give a better selection. | 08:40 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah unity8 will bring whole other insights | 08:41 |
| lotuspsychje | i would rather have wanted a honeypot enviroment where we could safely experiment | 08:42 |
| lotuspsychje | install stuff our own way.. | 08:42 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps someday :p | 08:43 |
| ducasse | honeypot - do you mean sandbox? | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah sandbox | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-14-04-5-lts-is-the-last-in-the-series-brings-xenial-xerus-linux-kernel-507019.shtml | 08:55 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic trusty | 08:55 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.92.99 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB | 08:55 |
| lotuspsychje | http://windowsreport.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-deleting-linux-partitions/ | 08:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 08:58 |
| lotuspsychje | nice find popey | 08:58 |
| lotuspsychje | ms loves linux! | 09:00 |
| OerHeks | ms changed to block unsigned drivers too. | 09:00 |
| OerHeks | that might be related too. | 09:00 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah throw out everything thats not genuine :p | 09:00 |
| lotuspsychje | that sounds very ms | 09:01 |
| OerHeks | this is pure vendor-lock-in | 09:02 |
| baizon | ofc, thats microsoft | 09:22 |
| baizon | they are full of crap | 09:22 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 09:23 |
| baizon | thank god im windows free since 2014 | 09:23 |
| * lotuspsychje celebrates too | 09:24 | |
| * OerHeks got a sealed windows 95. | 09:24 | |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 09:24 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl guys lunchtime | 09:37 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:09 |
| ducasse | morning BluesKaj, all well? | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse, just fine thanks , and you? | 11:35 |
| ducasse | good, thanks. having a quiet day :) | 11:35 |
| \9 | i was wondering when would microsoft start actively deleting linux partitions | 11:51 |
| \9 | i never trusted windows not to do that | 11:51 |
| ducasse | are these just a few isolated cases, or more widespread? | 11:56 |
| OerHeks | i have no confirmation yet. | 11:57 |
| OerHeks | but odly enough upgrade booting isues | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | \9 installing any OS will erase partitions if you use the auto-installer | 12:32 |
| \9 | maybe, but not when updating | 12:34 |
| BluesKaj | well updating winows or any OS won't erase partitions | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | windows even | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | installing windows after linux usually just removes grub | 12:37 |
| ducasse | aiui this was on upgrade, not fresh install | 12:37 |
| OerHeks | things went bad when they shutdown flightsimulator. | 12:37 |
| \9 | BluesKaj: at least until now | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | uefi is a different story i guess. I'm not up to date on that mess | 12:40 |
| DJones | There have been a couple of updates latelt affecting secureboot and uefi, not tried to see how they affect the windows updates | 12:44 |
| OerHeks | catched this from ##linux https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4wfgyg/psa_regarding_dualboot_windows_10_anniversary/ | 12:49 |
| DJones | There was a user in #ubuntu-ukthat lost pretty much everything | 12:50 |
| DJones | Had to use photorec to recover files | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | never seen windows wipe a drive that has extfs, it doesn't recognize them | 12:58 |
| Bashing-om | Restarting IRC client . brb . | 15:34 |
| Bashing-om | OerHeks: Question, in the Xorg.0.log file is " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 " . Is this significant of a problem ? As we have " NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 750 Ti (GM107-A) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)" found and loaded . | 16:21 |
| OerHeks | oh from waddup? | 16:22 |
| OerHeks | i take a look | 16:22 |
| daftykins | sure is | 16:23 |
| daftykins | though usually it's just in the log of getting unloaded then re-added | 16:23 |
| OerHeks | idd indeed | 16:24 |
| OerHeks | log daftykins >> http://pastebin.com/raw/18WHjBJ9 | 16:24 |
| OerHeks | these lines see it proper 1494.606] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Found DRM driver nvidia-drm (20150116) | 16:25 |
| OerHeks | [ 1494.607] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 750 Ti (GM107-A) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) | 16:25 |
| OerHeks | and later on indeed deleting GPU-0 | 16:25 |
| Bashing-om | OerHeks: Yeah that one .. daftykins What gets me is that the " Deleting GPU-0 " os the final entry in the log .. and no explanation of what is going on . | 16:25 |
| OerHeks | i have seen this once, with ati, the solution was to reset the monitor itself, to vendor defaults with its own menu buttons | 16:26 |
| daftykins | what was the user's original problem report? | 16:26 |
| OerHeks | <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: when I login sometimes the dash and menubar get all glitched up like this: https://img42.com/ihyP2+ If I click anything in the glitched area it suddenly looks normal. How can I troubleshoot this? | 16:27 |
| daftykins | hmm link doesn't work for me, guy must've deleted already perhaps? | 16:28 |
| daftykins | that nick seems like a trolly kind | 16:28 |
| daftykins | is it possible it's an old log? | 16:29 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Link works for me http://pastebin.com/raw/18WHjBJ9 ?? | 16:32 |
| OerHeks | how would i de-ban you in #ubuntu ? | 16:34 |
| * OerHeks is ready for trouble in paradise | 16:34 | |
| Bashing-om | A lot of the fun in the channel departed when daftykins failed to re-join . | 16:38 |
| OerHeks | true, the ban is surely with reason, but this is a woppyfloppysloppydoppy | 16:40 |
| OerHeks | oh, my wordfilter pops in :-D | 16:41 |
| OerHeks | i cannot call daftykins woppyfloppysloppydoppy anymore | 16:41 |
| Bashing-om | Life's little disappointments ^ ! | 16:47 |
| daftykins | :) you're too kind! | 16:48 |
| daftykins | do we mean the fun of the people that trolled me, though? ;) | 16:48 |
| OerHeks | tons of them, people that are lonely, daftykins | 16:52 |
| daftykins | hehe | 16:59 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening guys | 19:32 |
| Bashing-om | Good help has arrived ! Hiya lotus ! | 19:33 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om | 19:33 |
| lotuspsychje | i see you already gathering cookies in main Bashing-om :p | 19:34 |
| Bashing-om | Oh .. just earming my avitar .. letting the system bash me around . | 19:35 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: IRT your wallpaper, thought more of this last night .. When you changed .. did you run ' update-desktop-database ' . I do not know how this applies in systemd ! | 19:40 |
| lotuspsychje | no? | 19:41 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: My notes says " for the change to take effect." . | 19:42 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ update-desktop-database | 19:43 |
| lotuspsychje | The databases in [/usr/share/ubuntu/applications, /usr/share/gnome/applications, /usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications, /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications] could not be updated. | 19:43 |
| lotuspsychje | sudo? | 19:43 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: I know nothing ! .. upstart to systemd ??/ I do not know ?? | 19:44 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: think sudo worked | 19:45 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Well .. maybe then some progress .. I am leary as can be in respect to commands/scripts that were upstart .. in the systemd environment . | 19:46 |
| lotuspsychje | brb testing wallpaper | 20:03 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: didnt work that way | 20:07 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: tried moving the logo folder to other dir also | 20:07 |
| lotuspsychje | its so weird, it never acted that way before | 20:10 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: changing to a background of default /usr/share/backgrounds is working | 20:19 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: but if i choose logo.svg on a colored background it goes back to the old logo | 20:20 |
| dax | lotuspsychje: "samsung 850 pro" is your SSD, right? | 20:31 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: yes sir | 20:31 |
| dax | lotuspsychje: how do you like it? i'm in the market and they're priced well right now | 20:31 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: i recommended it strongly | 20:31 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: 10 years warranty and unbreakable | 20:32 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: they mostly use this for servers, and i rather like it for desktop aswell | 20:32 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: 128gig and 256gig are affordable too | 20:33 |
| lotuspsychje | i bought 10 of them for my business | 20:34 |
| lotuspsychje | anyway bbl sleeping time | 20:39 |
| lotuspsychje | nite nite to all | 20:39 |
| Bashing-om | thunderstorms .. shutting down . | 21:35 |
| dax | !binarydriver | 22:03 |
| ubot5 | For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » | 22:03 |
| dax | !amd | 22:03 |
| ubot5 | Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD | 22:03 |
| dax | !fglrxmissing | 22:03 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu 16.04 and above do not contain AMD's proprietary "fglrx" video driver. Please use radeon or amdgpu instead (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver ). We do not recommend or support downloading fglrx from other sources; please do not ask for help with it here. | 22:03 |
| dax | fyi ^ | 22:03 |
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