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Bashing-omA pause for the cause - my eyes are crossing . G Nite .05:04
lotuspsychjegood morning to all07:23
ducassemorning, lotuspsychje - how are you?07:23
lotuspsychjehey ducasse im fine mate tnx07:24
lotuspsychjeducasse: did you read the snap find article?07:24
ducasseyes, i did. surprised it got that much attention.07:24
lotuspsychjeyeah thought the same :p07:24
OerHekshi lotuspsychje ducasse07:25
lotuspsychjesudo snap find . it is07:25
ducassemorning, OerHeks07:25
lotuspsychjehey OerHeks07:25
ducasselotuspsychje: as the article says, that will only list 100 snaps, not all07:25
lotuspsychjewell i missing the same in software store on ubuntu-touch aswell07:26
ducassei don't think it's right of canonical to say "write your own tool for this"07:26
lotuspsychje* gives the last 100 apps aswell, not all07:26
OerHeksman i can write tons of such articles, with our chats as basis07:27
OerHeks.. but no credit :-(07:27
lotuspsychjeperhaps there's a spy in here, writing stuff based on our conversations :p07:27
lotuspsychjehi baizon07:28
baizonhi lotuspsychje07:28
OerHeksducasse, did you check out uappexplorer-cli ?07:29
ducassenot yet, i just looked at the website.07:29
OerHeksoh, and this dude didn't mention you experience the search issue in proposed ??07:30
OerHeksi can write 2x as much articles that way07:30
lotuspsychje!info snapd07:32
ubot5snapd (source: snapd): Tool to interact with Ubuntu Core Snappy.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.11+0.16.04 (xenial), package size 3789 kB, installed size 18148 kB07:32
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: got the same issue on this version aswell, in main07:32
lotuspsychjelotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ snap find07:32
lotuspsychjeerror: cannot list snaps: empty query07:32
OerHeksoh right07:34
ducassethere should be a "snap show", there is obviously more metadata "snap find" doesn't list.07:34
OerHeksbut there was a difference between stable and proposed07:35
lotuspsychjethink it recently updated07:35
ducasselotuspsychje: that is the version from proposed07:35
lotuspsychjeim not on proposed07:36
OerHeksme neither07:36
ducasseno, it has migrated to updates07:36
ducasseodd it went through that quickly...07:37
lotuspsychjeducasse: so it wasnt a unity thing afterall07:39
ducassenope :)07:39
ducasselibreoffice? not available yet, it seems...07:40
lotuspsychjei wonder how that works on the m10 tablet with libreoffice07:41
ducasse11 "hello world" snaps - is that really necessary? In addition there are a bunch of test snaps.07:46
OerHeksget them all!07:47
ducasseinteresting tablet article, lotuspsychje - have you tried the tablet yourself?08:03
lotuspsychjeducasse: not yet, i still have the nexus7 with touch08:03
ducasseit's a bit pricey, but looks promising. too bad there aren't other interfaces, though ;)08:04
lotuspsychjeim actually hoping they will find a way to install touch on 'any' device08:05
lotuspsychjethat would make it interesting08:05
ducasselike any android phone?08:05
lotuspsychjei hear next OTA will bring android support08:05
lotuspsychjethrilling news :p08:07
baizonyay, skype is dead :D08:11
baizonthe last person i talked to that used skype finally switched to google, so no need for skype. I can finally remove it from my pc08:13
lotuspsychjeoh they hacked iranian telegram accounts recently08:15
lotuspsychjeopensource and safety needs a new lookup08:16
lotuspsychjebaizon: have you tried this yet? https://ring.cx/08:18
lotuspsychjeme neither08:19
ducasselooks interesting08:21
ducasseofc useless if nobody switches to it :)08:22
lotuspsychjethats always the problem08:23
lotuspsychjethe big masses always stick of whats known/popular08:23
ducassei've got to try this one, and convince a couple of others to install it. that's the hard part.08:24
lotuspsychjenobody cares of security for the ease of whatsapp, snapchat, fb chat etc08:25
lotuspsychjeindividuality narrow blindness08:25
ducassemy mother keeps insisting i use fb chat to send her messages, i keep refusing :)08:25
lotuspsychjesame here i dont throw out personal data out there08:26
ducasselotuspsychje: what do they mean by "vivid overlay" on the ota13 article? has ubuntu touch only got packages from the vivid repos?08:31
lotuspsychjeducasse: no the ubuntu touch image is still based on 15.04 but that doesnt mean its eol08:32
lotuspsychjeducasse: works in another way then ubuntu desktop08:32
ducassei see. so it gets newer packages?08:33
lotuspsychjeducasse: packages are linked to the ubuntu software app store and all are available08:33
ducasseget it, thx :)08:34
lotuspsychjeducasse: but im bit unsure how thats linked to snap and apt-get08:34
ducassethe nexus devices can run touch, right? is a nexus 5 powerful enough?08:34
OerHekslets count to 10 for the next ban in #ubuntu08:34
ducassei friend has one for sale..08:35
lotuspsychjeducasse: check !devices in #ubuntu-touch08:35
lotuspsychjenot sure everything works on n508:35
ducassethanks, i will.08:36
lotuspsychjebut its surely installable08:36
ducasseit would be fun to play with, i want a phone with a full emacs :)08:37
lotuspsychjeducasse: i use it as my daily driver08:37
lotuspsychjeducasse: just keep in mind, you cant install packages the terminal way like ubuntu desktop08:38
lotuspsychjeducasse: for that you have to unlock phone dir, and updates wont work anymore08:38
lotuspsychjeducasse: for safety they built it this way, only apps from the store can be installed08:38
ducasseaha, i see. you can only install what's available through the store without doing that?08:39
lotuspsychjei wanted this feature ate the start also, so i could install lets say nmap the terminal way..08:39
lotuspsychjebut no luck :p08:39
ducassesnaps will probably fix that at some point, give a better selection.08:40
lotuspsychjeyeah unity8 will bring whole other insights08:41
lotuspsychjei would rather have wanted a honeypot enviroment where we could safely experiment08:42
lotuspsychjeinstall stuff our own way..08:42
lotuspsychjeperhaps someday :p08:43
ducassehoneypot - do you mean sandbox?08:44
lotuspsychjeyeah sandbox08:44
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic trusty08:55
ubot5linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB08:55
lotuspsychjenice find popey08:58
lotuspsychjems loves linux!09:00
OerHeksms changed to block unsigned drivers too.09:00
OerHeksthat might be related too.09:00
lotuspsychjeyeah throw out everything thats not genuine :p09:00
lotuspsychjethat sounds very ms09:01
OerHeksthis is pure vendor-lock-in09:02
baizonofc, thats microsoft09:22
baizonthey are full of crap09:22
baizonthank god im windows free since 201409:23
* lotuspsychje celebrates too09:24
* OerHeks got a sealed windows 95.09:24
lotuspsychjebbl guys lunchtime09:37
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:09
ducassemorning BluesKaj, all well?11:34
BluesKajHi ducasse, just fine thanks , and you?11:35
ducassegood, thanks. having a quiet day :)11:35
\9i was wondering when would microsoft start actively deleting linux partitions11:51
\9i never trusted windows not to do that11:51
ducasseare these just a few isolated cases, or more widespread?11:56
OerHeksi have no confirmation yet.11:57
OerHeksbut odly enough upgrade booting isues11:57
BluesKaj\9  installing any OS will erase partitions if you use the auto-installer12:32
\9maybe, but not when updating12:34
BluesKajwell updating winows or any OS won't erase partitions12:36
BluesKajwindows even12:36
BluesKajinstalling windows after linux usually just removes grub12:37
ducasseaiui this was on upgrade, not fresh install12:37
OerHeksthings went bad when they shutdown flightsimulator.12:37
\9BluesKaj: at least until now12:39
BluesKajuefi is a different story i guess. I'm not up to date on that mess12:40
DJonesThere have been a couple of updates latelt affecting secureboot and uefi, not tried to see how they affect the windows updates12:44
OerHekscatched this from ##linux https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4wfgyg/psa_regarding_dualboot_windows_10_anniversary/12:49
DJonesThere was a user in #ubuntu-ukthat lost pretty much everything12:50
DJonesHad to use photorec to recover files12:51
BluesKajnever seen windows wipe a drive that has extfs, it doesn't recognize them12:58
Bashing-omRestarting IRC client . brb .15:34
Bashing-omOerHeks: Question, in the Xorg.0.log file is " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 " . Is this significant of a problem ? As we have " NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 750 Ti (GM107-A) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)" found and loaded .16:21
OerHeksoh from waddup?16:22
OerHeksi take a look16:22
daftykinssure is16:23
daftykinsthough usually it's just in the log of getting unloaded then re-added16:23
OerHeksidd indeed16:24
OerHekslog daftykins >> http://pastebin.com/raw/18WHjBJ916:24
OerHeksthese lines see it proper 1494.606] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Found DRM driver nvidia-drm (20150116)16:25
OerHeks[  1494.607] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 750 Ti (GM107-A) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)16:25
OerHeksand later on indeed deleting GPU-016:25
Bashing-omOerHeks: Yeah that one .. daftykins What gets me is that the " Deleting GPU-0 " os the final entry in the log .. and no explanation of what is going on .16:25
OerHeksi have seen this once, with ati, the solution was to reset the monitor itself, to vendor defaults with its own menu buttons16:26
daftykinswhat was the user's original problem report?16:26
OerHeks<waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om:  when I login sometimes the dash and menubar get all glitched up like this: https://img42.com/ihyP2+  If I click anything in the glitched area it suddenly looks normal. How can I troubleshoot this?16:27
daftykinshmm link doesn't work for me, guy must've deleted already perhaps?16:28
daftykinsthat nick seems like a trolly kind16:28
daftykinsis it possible it's an old log?16:29
Bashing-omdaftykins: Link works for me http://pastebin.com/raw/18WHjBJ9 ??16:32
OerHekshow would i de-ban you in #ubuntu ?16:34
* OerHeks is ready for trouble in paradise16:34
Bashing-omA lot of the fun in the channel departed when daftykins failed to re-join .16:38
OerHekstrue, the ban is surely with reason, but this is a woppyfloppysloppydoppy16:40
OerHeksoh, my wordfilter pops in :-D16:41
OerHeksi cannot call daftykins woppyfloppysloppydoppy anymore16:41
Bashing-omLife's little disappointments ^ !16:47
daftykins:) you're too kind!16:48
daftykinsdo we mean the fun of the people that trolled me, though? ;)16:48
OerHekstons of them, people that are lonely, daftykins16:52
lotuspsychjegood evening guys19:32
Bashing-omGood help has arrived ! Hiya lotus !19:33
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om19:33
lotuspsychjei see you already gathering cookies in main Bashing-om :p19:34
Bashing-omOh .. just earming my avitar .. letting the system bash me around .19:35
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: IRT your wallpaper, thought more of this last night .. When you changed .. did you run ' update-desktop-database ' . I do not know how this applies in systemd !19:40
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: My notes says " for the change to take effect." .19:42
lotuspsychjelotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ update-desktop-database19:43
lotuspsychjeThe databases in [/usr/share/ubuntu/applications, /usr/share/gnome/applications, /usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications, /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications] could not be updated.19:43
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I know nothing ! .. upstart to systemd ??/ I do not know ??19:44
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: think sudo worked19:45
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Well .. maybe then some progress .. I am leary as can be in respect to commands/scripts that were upstart .. in the systemd environment .19:46
lotuspsychjebrb testing wallpaper20:03
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: didnt work that way20:07
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: tried moving the logo folder to other dir also20:07
lotuspsychjeits so weird, it never acted that way before20:10
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: changing to a background of default /usr/share/backgrounds is working20:19
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: but if i choose logo.svg on a colored background it goes back to the old logo20:20
daxlotuspsychje: "samsung 850 pro" is your SSD, right?20:31
lotuspsychjedax: yes sir20:31
daxlotuspsychje: how do you like it? i'm in the market and they're priced well right now20:31
lotuspsychjedax: i recommended it strongly20:31
lotuspsychjedax: 10 years warranty and unbreakable20:32
lotuspsychjedax: they mostly use this for servers, and i rather like it for desktop aswell20:32
lotuspsychjedax: 128gig and 256gig are affordable too20:33
lotuspsychjei bought 10 of them for my business20:34
lotuspsychjeanyway bbl sleeping time20:39
lotuspsychjenite nite to all20:39
Bashing-omthunderstorms .. shutting down .21:35
ubot5For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing »22:03
ubot5Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD22:03
ubot5Ubuntu 16.04 and above do not contain AMD's proprietary "fglrx" video driver. Please use radeon or amdgpu instead (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver ). We do not recommend or support downloading fglrx from other sources; please do not ask for help with it here.22:03
daxfyi ^22:03

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