| Squirm | Morning | 05:50 |
|---|---|---|
| magespawn | good morning | 06:14 |
| Squirm | Hey magespawn | 07:16 |
| Kilos | . | 08:07 |
| magespawn | howdy Squirm | 08:21 |
| magespawn | mornign Kilos | 08:21 |
| magespawn | morning too | 08:21 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 08:21 |
| paddatrapper | Morning magespawn, Kilos, Squirm, everyone | 09:22 |
| Kilos | hi paddatrapper | 09:22 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| jerit | suuuuuuuup | 11:03 |
| d`_`b | jerit: the sky, then space, after that it is all relative. | 11:32 |
| jerit | lol | 11:33 |
| d`_`b | with u? | 11:34 |
| jerit | all's good I guess | 11:36 |
| jerit | currently agonizing about whether or not to develop my eCommerce site as a web service to client app or just a website that accesses the data directly | 11:37 |
| * theblazehen runs a tcpdump on my Android phone | 11:39 | |
| * theblazehen wonders if it's easier to port sailfish os or Ubuntu touch | 11:40 | |
| jerit | theblazehen: got any ideas about how I can improve the performance of my phone? Its a vodafone smart 4 mini but I can barely use the damn thing because its so slow | 11:43 |
| jerit | running android jellybean I believe | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | jerit: original os | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | ? | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | Samsung is way too aggressive with zram | 11:43 |
| jerit | not factory original but officially updated | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | Try an aosp rom or cyanogenmod | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | I swear my note 2 on cm performs better than my note 4 on Samsung's rom | 11:44 |
| theblazehen | I mean.. I can barely run gentoo in a chroot.. and yet on my note 2 I could even do a make -j8 without issues | 11:45 |
| jerit | I have no clue how to do any of this stuff and I'm terrified to try in case I brick the phone. Can't get a new one | 11:45 |
| theblazehen | At bootup due to the zram stuff I now have like 400 MB ram free | 11:45 |
| theblazehen | It's *really* hard to brick a phone | 11:45 |
| theblazehen | Hell, I even recovered from a wiped PIT before (basically the MBR) | 11:46 |
| theblazehen | Unless you boot to the bootloader, tell Heimdall to allow you to write to the important stuff, boot back into the os or recovery, get a root shell and wipe out everything, you'll be fine | 11:47 |
| theblazehen | And for like R100 you can even recover from that | 11:47 |
| theblazehen | I mean.. I've got an octacore processor, and 3 GB RAM, yet my old dual core phone with 2GB ram was faster.. | 11:50 |
| Sicelo | theblazehen: i would think sailfish should be easier | 11:55 |
| Sicelo | for porting, that is | 11:56 |
| jerit | on my income currently, R100 is a lot | 11:56 |
| theblazehen | Sicelo: sure hope so. And sailfish is better too. Based on mer | 11:56 |
| theblazehen | Although ubuntu is also on mer for some stuff, but they use Mir for display instead of Wayland | 11:57 |
| Sicelo | which has its roots in maemo ;) | 11:57 |
| theblazehen | Sicelo: why I really want it :) also, neo900.org | 11:57 |
| theblazehen | jerit: do you have an old computer? | 11:57 |
| theblazehen | With a serial cable? | 11:57 |
| jerit | nope | 11:57 |
| jerit | gave away all the old stuff | 11:58 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. Does your new one have headers for it? | 11:58 |
| jerit | headers for what? | 11:58 |
| theblazehen | Well, either way. You're not bricking it by accident. You have to try _really_ hard.. | 11:58 |
| theblazehen | Serial connection | 11:58 |
| theblazehen | I mean, at no point during the process of putting a custom ROM on do you get a chance to destroy things | 11:59 |
| theblazehen | And unless you actually try and read up on how it works and how to brick it, you're not gonna be doing that | 11:59 |
| theblazehen | Only phone I maybe bricked is when I was trying to get GNU/Linux (and not in a chroot) running on old phone with broken display | 12:00 |
| theblazehen | And was trying to use uboot for bootloader instead of Samsung one | 12:00 |
| theblazehen | Because it could do usb gadget serial instead of TTL serial | 12:01 |
| Sicelo | ~ | 12:01 |
| magespawn | you can get a serial to usb converter | 12:02 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: I know | 12:02 |
| theblazehen | But then I'd need to get one | 12:02 |
| theblazehen | And wire it up | 12:02 |
| theblazehen | Hell, I have a physical serial port | 12:03 |
| Sicelo | if you have old nokia pop port cable ... it's a proper usb to serial ... free | 12:03 |
| theblazehen | I just need to attach it to the phones micro usb | 12:03 |
| theblazehen | Sicelo: 5v or 3.3v? | 12:03 |
| Sicelo | 5, iirc | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. Bad idea then. | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | Phones serial normally 3.3V | 12:04 |
| Sicelo | it's got that pl2032 chip.. or such name | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | But iirc you can step the voltage down | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | You got some resistors? | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | But yeah. It took like hours of looking for shit before I got to a point where it would let me have the kind of access that would need a serial port to fix | 12:06 |
| Sicelo | theblazehen: you use android kernel or standard kernel on the phones? | 12:19 |
| theblazehen | Sicelo: Well, I use the cm kernel | 12:20 |
| theblazehen | But people say "No you can't run normal linux kernel on android phones" and I didn't need wifi, display etc working, so I was like "Watch me.. Challenge accepted" | 12:21 |
| theblazehen | I'm always like that... | 12:21 |
| theblazehen | lxd image not quite right? | 12:21 |
| theblazehen | Guess I better configure jenkins to build them, another container to run as a simplestreams server, and have it integrate into my gitlab | 12:22 |
| theblazehen | Docker image not right? Guess I'm installing gitlab, setting up the CI thing, have it build docker images and push to an internal registry | 12:22 |
| theblazehen | On my sever network I've got 27 dhcp leases configured | 12:22 |
| theblazehen | ot joking | 12:23 |
| Sicelo | few people understand embedded, lol, and therefore reach crazy conclusions | 12:23 |
| theblazehen | s/(.*)/n\1/ | 12:23 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 12:23 |
| Sicelo | you're in it for fun, or? | 12:24 |
| theblazehen | Sicelo: Yeah | 12:27 |
| jerit | waar's oom Kilos? | 12:31 |
| magespawn | from where i am sitting very few people understand anything about technology | 12:31 |
| Kilos | hi jerit | 12:31 |
| Kilos | hows things | 12:31 |
| jerit | doing okay, you? | 12:33 |
| jerit | my mom just showed me pics of 6 week old puppies who were rescued but they have demodectic mange... How do you neglect a 6 week puppy enough that it gets mange :( | 12:34 |
| Kilos | ok ty, im busy trying to revive locos in bangladesh india and pakistan and help sheep give birth to twin lambs and feed them so i get quiet here at times | 12:34 |
| Kilos | ivomec injection under skin cures mange in weeks | 12:35 |
| Kilos | 1 injection only | 12:35 |
| magespawn | just by ignoring them? | 12:35 |
| magespawn | there are also shampoos etc that can cure that | 12:36 |
| magespawn | my son got in once | 12:37 |
| Kilos | shampoos cost lots and rarely cure it poperly | 12:37 |
| Kilos | your son | 12:37 |
| Kilos | ? | 12:37 |
| Kilos | from playing with dogs | 12:37 |
| magespawn | yes my son, not sure he came home form school with it | 12:38 |
| magespawn | might have been from the farm animals that he was around | 12:40 |
| Kilos | wow | 12:40 |
| Kilos | on peeps id use shampoos yes but vets are very costly and ivomec does the job better and cheaper than shampoos | 12:41 |
| Kilos | yay choqok has been updated | 12:46 |
| magespawn | for people there is a spray in a can tha works well | 12:48 |
| magespawn | forget what it is called though | 12:48 |
| magespawn | chat later all | 13:12 |
| d`_`b | jerit: depends what your datasource is going to be. What you going to sell? | 13:27 |
| jerit | d`_`b: I'm a tarsus distributor so will be selling anything that they distribute | 13:27 |
| jerit | consumables, computers, components, printers and such | 13:28 |
| jerit | Also I'm a distributor for a number of other places so might want to make some distinction there | 13:29 |
| ra1v3n | Helo | 13:42 |
| jerit | hi ra1v3n | 14:01 |
| jerit | wow that only took 20 minutes | 14:01 |
| ra1v3n | hi | 14:03 |
| jerit | ugh I hate when Tor randomly closes and then I have to restart it :/ | 14:05 |
| ra1v3n | lol | 14:07 |
| jerit | problem is I now know how to search the deep web and get around but I have nothing to search for | 14:07 |
| ra1v3n | lol | 14:08 |
| ra1v3n | The deep web is actually rather boring | 14:08 |
| jerit | confusing as well | 14:08 |
| jerit | I was searching ahmia for free vpn and clicked on a link that said "[Hide.me] Free VPN" | 14:09 |
| jerit | thought hey this is just what I'm looking for. Click | 14:09 |
| jerit | All over the screen "boy love messaging forums" O_o | 14:09 |
| ra1v3n | lmao | 14:10 |
| ra1v3n | why did you click that! | 14:10 |
| jerit | it said free vpn | 14:10 |
| ra1v3n | lol | 14:10 |
| ra1v3n | NOTHING on the net is FREE | 14:10 |
| jerit | sure it is, free blog @ wordpress.com | 14:11 |
| jerit | facebook is free, twitter, instagram, snapchat | 14:11 |
| ra1v3n | as a rule I dont click on links with that word | 14:11 |
| jerit | youtube is free and even pays people | 14:11 |
| ra1v3n | lol ..... yes but there you are the product | 14:11 |
| ra1v3n | again NOT free | 14:11 |
| jerit | anyways you been enjoying your weekend? | 14:17 |
| ra1v3n | not really | 14:17 |
| jerit | spent it working or with family then? :P | 14:18 |
| theblazehen | jerit: You mean tor browser? | 14:20 |
| jerit | ya | 14:20 |
| ra1v3n | both! | 14:20 |
| ra1v3n | I need a vacation | 14:20 |
| theblazehen | I pass around 100 TB or so I think through tor, no issues with it ever crashing | 14:20 |
| jerit | the hell is a vacation? This word is foreign to me lol | 14:21 |
| theblazehen | per month that is | 14:21 |
| jerit | I'm just getting started with it. Still learning the ins and outs of the deep web | 14:22 |
| theblazehen | Hmm, remembered wrong. And cut it in half, as I was counting data transfer, not tor transfer | 14:22 |
| jerit | was hoping I'd find more programming/hacking info like tutorials, courses, etc but to be honest I've not been looking that hard and I have little inclination to dedicate the time | 14:22 |
| theblazehen | So 25 TB / month | 14:22 |
| theblazehen | jerit: You want some interesting things in that space? | 14:23 |
| theblazehen | Look at i2c for some cool concepts | 14:23 |
| jerit | sure, send in query | 14:23 |
| ra1v3n | bbl | 14:50 |
| inetpro | goeie more | 16:36 |
| inetpro | oh and hi Kilos as well | 16:36 |
| Kilos | goofness gracious me | 16:37 |
| Kilos | hello inetpro where were you | 16:37 |
| Kilos | goodness as well | 16:37 |
| inetpro | what? | 16:37 |
| inetpro | why? | 16:37 |
| Kilos | what why | 16:37 |
| * inetpro was here | 16:37 | |
| Kilos | nono | 16:38 |
| Kilos | you were gone for days | 16:38 |
| inetpro | ok | 16:38 |
| * inetpro was here but was not here | 16:38 | |
| Kilos | lol | 16:38 |
| inetpro | sorry oom | 16:38 |
| Kilos | where was the not here you | 16:38 |
| Kilos | everything ok inetpro | 16:39 |
| inetpro | all good thank you | 16:39 |
| inetpro | en daar? | 16:39 |
| inetpro | what di I miss? | 16:39 |
| inetpro | did* | 16:39 |
| Kilos | ook goet dankie | 16:39 |
| Kilos | not much i think | 16:39 |
| Kilos | oh yes | 16:39 |
| * inetpro not going to scroll | 16:40 | |
| Kilos | paddatrapper did this https://code.launchpad.net/~krobbertze/ibidnext/+git/ibidnext | 16:40 |
| Kilos | and https://launchpad.net/ibidnext | 16:41 |
| inetpro | sounds interesting... will check when I have time | 16:41 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: The first link no longer is cirrect, https://launchpad.net/ibidnext is the correct one | 16:41 |
| paddatrapper | s/cirrect/correct | 16:42 |
| inetpro | anything that changed paddatrapper? | 16:42 |
| Kilos | now we hoping to pull in fly and weed so its just the old ibid upgrade once rewritten | 16:42 |
| Kilos | tell him everything paddatrapper | 16:42 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly wb | 16:42 |
| paddatrapper | inetpro: Well it now runs on distros released this decade | 16:43 |
| Kilos | and it uses ddg inetpro | 16:43 |
| inetpro | ddg? | 16:43 |
| Kilos | duckduckgo | 16:44 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:44 |
| inetpro | oh my | 16:44 |
| Kilos | i ran one here on lappy | 16:44 |
| paddatrapper | The aim is to move to python 3 and fix the niggles like searching (ddg), changeable gender pronouns, etc | 16:44 |
| Kilos | but it still has to be done in venv thing | 16:44 |
| paddatrapper | No deb package yet | 16:45 |
| Kilos | yes she must be a she with panties not jockeys | 16:45 |
| inetpro | ok | 16:45 |
| Kilos | inetpro | 16:45 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: are we getting warmer weather again? | 16:45 |
| Kilos | if you get involved your karma will rise | 16:46 |
| Kilos | yes very slowly | 16:46 |
| Kilos | was ice here again in the morning | 16:46 |
| paddatrapper | superfly suggested naming it itrum (again, or refresh) which seems pretty spot on | 16:47 |
| superfly | iterum | 16:47 |
| paddatrapper | I should type slower... | 16:47 |
| inetpro | Latin? | 16:48 |
| Kilos | oh then it will meaning getting it accepted as an ubuntu package again wont it superfly | 16:48 |
| paddatrapper | inetpro: English, just not often used | 16:48 |
| superfly | yes, but that's easy enough, and I'm sure we can pursuade tumbleweed ;-) | 16:48 |
| Kilos | haha | 16:49 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: no, inetpro is correct, it is latin | 16:49 |
| Kilos | oh i wont be here in the morning or as long as it takes for second round of pension application | 16:51 |
| inetpro | superfly, paddatrapper: you want to call it Ibid Iterum or just Iterum? | 16:52 |
| superfly | was thinking just "iterum" but I'm not entirely sure right now. Just been looking at domain names and both .com and .org are taken | 16:53 |
| paddatrapper | I quite like just Iterum, but the domain names are a pain... | 16:54 |
| inetpro | very difficult to come up with something unique these days | 16:54 |
| superfly | wow, one could potentially have "https://i.bid/ | 16:54 |
| superfly | .um is not a domain anymore, sadly | 16:55 |
| paddatrapper | There is really a TLD for anything | 16:55 |
| paddatrapper | Except for what we need | 16:55 |
| paddatrapper | iterum.io and iterum.co.za are both available | 16:56 |
| superfly | ugh, .io is expensive | 16:56 |
| superfly | even with my discount | 16:56 |
| Kilos | you looking for a host just for a bot? | 16:57 |
| Kilos | weather liars say 7 and 26 inetpro | 16:58 |
| superfly | Kilos: of course | 16:59 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: for documentation, download, etc | 16:59 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 17:00 |
| superfly | i can get iterum.tech for $2 per year | 17:05 |
| superfly | or .online | 17:06 |
| superfly | a .io is $33 | 17:06 |
| Kilos | whew | 17:09 |
| superfly | there's iterum.chat for $24 | 17:09 |
| superfly | let's move this discussion to #iterum | 17:10 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:10 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:18 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:22 |
| Kilos | go to #iterum | 17:22 |
| magespawn | why? | 17:22 |
| Kilos | because | 17:22 |
| magespawn | okay am there | 17:24 |
| jerit | gave my dog some scraps off my plate and he bit me when he snatched at the meat... I was so shocked from the pain I slapped him across the face :( | 17:41 |
| jerit | and now as a result, I hate myself | 17:41 |
| jerit | not even my best feel good songs are helping me to feel better now :( | 17:57 |
| Kilos | what happened jerit | 18:01 |
| paddatrapper | jerit: Your dog will be fine, don't beat yourself up about it | 18:01 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:01 |
| jerit | I know he'll be fine. I couldn't possibly have hurt him anywhere near as much as he hurt me... But he doesn't understand why he got hurt in the first place | 18:03 |
| jerit | and that sort of thing is what breaks trust | 18:03 |
| Kilos | teach him to take food gently | 18:03 |
| Kilos | turn the food in your hand away from him and keep saying softly softly | 18:04 |
| Kilos | then slowly turn hand bit by bit | 18:04 |
| Kilos | and dont try it when he is starving either | 18:04 |
| Kilos | our animals behaviour depends on how we train them | 18:05 |
| Kilos | they learn from the tone in your voice | 18:06 |
| Kilos | stern voice means dont push your luck | 18:06 |
| jerit | Kilos I've been trying to teach him to take gently but the bitch my uncle married (they're divorced now) thought it was fun to tease the dogs so from a young age he's been convinced that he's not going to get the food unless he snaps | 18:07 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:08 |
| jerit | I never liked that woman | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hard to train out bad habits | 18:08 |
| Kilos | maybe try with something he eats but not to keen on first | 18:09 |
| Kilos | even dog pellets | 18:09 |
| jerit | I want to train the dogs to take and to eat properly because they scoff themselves when we give them the tinned dog meat | 18:11 |
| jerit | but I can't do that with all of them around yet. I have to separate them... First I need the treats to give them that'll keep their attention | 18:12 |
| Kilos | good luck | 18:12 |
| Kilos | keep many plasers handy | 18:13 |
| Kilos | and 10 volume peroxide | 18:13 |
| Kilos | always wash dog bies wih i | 18:13 |
| Kilos | it | 18:13 |
| Kilos | bites | 18:13 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:13 |
| superfly | jerit: in the wild there is no such thing as positive. Animals either have neutral or negative | 18:28 |
| pavlushka | ahoy ZA! | 18:30 |
| magespawn | jerit patience and time | 18:31 |
| magespawn | hhg | 18:32 |
| magespawn | hi pavlushka | 18:32 |
| jerit | superfly maybe so but domestic dogs are not wild animals | 18:32 |
| Kilos | just reward every good move with hugs and pats and many good boys | 18:33 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight. see you tomorrow avy | 18:50 |
| jerit | nn Kilos | 18:50 |
| ra1v3n | gnyt all | 19:18 |
| magespawn | good night all | 20:04 |
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