[05:50] Morning [06:14] good morning [07:16] Hey magespawn [08:07] . [08:21] howdy Squirm [08:21] mornign Kilos [08:21] morning too [08:21] hi magespawn [09:22] Morning magespawn, Kilos, Squirm, everyone [09:22] hi paddatrapper === MaNL is now known as MaNI [11:03] suuuuuuuup [11:32] jerit: the sky, then space, after that it is all relative. [11:33] lol [11:34] with u? [11:36] all's good I guess [11:37] currently agonizing about whether or not to develop my eCommerce site as a web service to client app or just a website that accesses the data directly [11:39] * theblazehen runs a tcpdump on my Android phone [11:40] * theblazehen wonders if it's easier to port sailfish os or Ubuntu touch [11:43] theblazehen: got any ideas about how I can improve the performance of my phone? Its a vodafone smart 4 mini but I can barely use the damn thing because its so slow [11:43] running android jellybean I believe [11:43] jerit: original os [11:43] ? [11:43] Samsung is way too aggressive with zram [11:43] not factory original but officially updated [11:43] Try an aosp rom or cyanogenmod [11:44] I swear my note 2 on cm performs better than my note 4 on Samsung's rom [11:45] I mean.. I can barely run gentoo in a chroot.. and yet on my note 2 I could even do a make -j8 without issues [11:45] I have no clue how to do any of this stuff and I'm terrified to try in case I brick the phone. Can't get a new one [11:45] At bootup due to the zram stuff I now have like 400 MB ram free [11:45] It's *really* hard to brick a phone [11:46] Hell, I even recovered from a wiped PIT before (basically the MBR) [11:47] Unless you boot to the bootloader, tell Heimdall to allow you to write to the important stuff, boot back into the os or recovery, get a root shell and wipe out everything, you'll be fine [11:47] And for like R100 you can even recover from that [11:50] I mean.. I've got an octacore processor, and 3 GB RAM, yet my old dual core phone with 2GB ram was faster.. [11:55] theblazehen: i would think sailfish should be easier [11:56] for porting, that is [11:56] on my income currently, R100 is a lot [11:56] Sicelo: sure hope so. And sailfish is better too. Based on mer [11:57] Although ubuntu is also on mer for some stuff, but they use Mir for display instead of Wayland [11:57] which has its roots in maemo ;) [11:57] Sicelo: why I really want it :) also, neo900.org [11:57] jerit: do you have an old computer? [11:57] With a serial cable? [11:57] nope [11:58] gave away all the old stuff [11:58] Hmm. Does your new one have headers for it? [11:58] headers for what? [11:58] Well, either way. You're not bricking it by accident. You have to try _really_ hard.. [11:58] Serial connection [11:59] I mean, at no point during the process of putting a custom ROM on do you get a chance to destroy things [11:59] And unless you actually try and read up on how it works and how to brick it, you're not gonna be doing that [12:00] Only phone I maybe bricked is when I was trying to get GNU/Linux (and not in a chroot) running on old phone with broken display [12:00] And was trying to use uboot for bootloader instead of Samsung one [12:01] Because it could do usb gadget serial instead of TTL serial [12:01] ~ [12:02] you can get a serial to usb converter [12:02] magespawn: I know [12:02] But then I'd need to get one [12:02] And wire it up [12:03] Hell, I have a physical serial port [12:03] if you have old nokia pop port cable ... it's a proper usb to serial ... free [12:03] I just need to attach it to the phones micro usb [12:03] Sicelo: 5v or 3.3v? [12:04] 5, iirc [12:04] Yeah. Bad idea then. [12:04] Phones serial normally 3.3V [12:04] it's got that pl2032 chip.. or such name [12:04] But iirc you can step the voltage down [12:04] You got some resistors? [12:06] But yeah. It took like hours of looking for shit before I got to a point where it would let me have the kind of access that would need a serial port to fix [12:19] theblazehen: you use android kernel or standard kernel on the phones? [12:20] Sicelo: Well, I use the cm kernel [12:21] But people say "No you can't run normal linux kernel on android phones" and I didn't need wifi, display etc working, so I was like "Watch me.. Challenge accepted" [12:21] I'm always like that... [12:21] lxd image not quite right? [12:22] Guess I better configure jenkins to build them, another container to run as a simplestreams server, and have it integrate into my gitlab [12:22] Docker image not right? Guess I'm installing gitlab, setting up the CI thing, have it build docker images and push to an internal registry [12:22] On my sever network I've got 27 dhcp leases configured [12:23] ot joking [12:23] few people understand embedded, lol, and therefore reach crazy conclusions [12:23] s/(.*)/n\1/ [12:23] yeah [12:24] you're in it for fun, or? [12:27] Sicelo: Yeah [12:31] waar's oom Kilos? [12:31] from where i am sitting very few people understand anything about technology [12:31] hi jerit [12:31] hows things [12:33] doing okay, you? [12:34] my mom just showed me pics of 6 week old puppies who were rescued but they have demodectic mange... How do you neglect a 6 week puppy enough that it gets mange :( [12:34] ok ty, im busy trying to revive locos in bangladesh india and pakistan and help sheep give birth to twin lambs and feed them so i get quiet here at times [12:35] ivomec injection under skin cures mange in weeks [12:35] 1 injection only [12:35] just by ignoring them? [12:36] there are also shampoos etc that can cure that [12:37] my son got in once [12:37] shampoos cost lots and rarely cure it poperly [12:37] your son [12:37] ? [12:37] from playing with dogs [12:38] yes my son, not sure he came home form school with it [12:40] might have been from the farm animals that he was around [12:40] wow [12:41] on peeps id use shampoos yes but vets are very costly and ivomec does the job better and cheaper than shampoos [12:46] yay choqok has been updated [12:48] for people there is a spray in a can tha works well [12:48] forget what it is called though [13:12] chat later all [13:27] jerit: depends what your datasource is going to be. What you going to sell? [13:27] d`_`b: I'm a tarsus distributor so will be selling anything that they distribute [13:28] consumables, computers, components, printers and such [13:29] Also I'm a distributor for a number of other places so might want to make some distinction there [13:42] Helo [14:01] hi ra1v3n [14:01] wow that only took 20 minutes [14:03] hi [14:05] ugh I hate when Tor randomly closes and then I have to restart it :/ [14:07] lol [14:07] problem is I now know how to search the deep web and get around but I have nothing to search for [14:08] lol [14:08] The deep web is actually rather boring [14:08] confusing as well [14:09] I was searching ahmia for free vpn and clicked on a link that said "[Hide.me] Free VPN" [14:09] thought hey this is just what I'm looking for. Click [14:09] All over the screen "boy love messaging forums" O_o [14:10] lmao [14:10] why did you click that! [14:10] it said free vpn [14:10] lol [14:10] NOTHING on the net is FREE [14:11] sure it is, free blog @ wordpress.com [14:11] facebook is free, twitter, instagram, snapchat [14:11] as a rule I dont click on links with that word [14:11] youtube is free and even pays people [14:11] lol ..... yes but there you are the product [14:11] again NOT free [14:17] anyways you been enjoying your weekend? [14:17] not really [14:18] spent it working or with family then? :P [14:20] jerit: You mean tor browser? [14:20] ya [14:20] both! [14:20] I need a vacation [14:20] I pass around 100 TB or so I think through tor, no issues with it ever crashing [14:21] the hell is a vacation? This word is foreign to me lol [14:21] per month that is [14:22] I'm just getting started with it. Still learning the ins and outs of the deep web [14:22] Hmm, remembered wrong. And cut it in half, as I was counting data transfer, not tor transfer [14:22] was hoping I'd find more programming/hacking info like tutorials, courses, etc but to be honest I've not been looking that hard and I have little inclination to dedicate the time [14:22] So 25 TB / month [14:23] jerit: You want some interesting things in that space? [14:23] Look at i2c for some cool concepts [14:23] sure, send in query [14:50] bbl [16:36] goeie more [16:36] oh and hi Kilos as well [16:37] goofness gracious me [16:37] hello inetpro where were you [16:37] goodness as well [16:37] what? [16:37] why? [16:37] what why [16:37] * inetpro was here [16:38] nono [16:38] you were gone for days [16:38] ok [16:38] * inetpro was here but was not here [16:38] lol [16:38] sorry oom [16:38] where was the not here you [16:39] everything ok inetpro [16:39] all good thank you [16:39] en daar? [16:39] what di I miss? [16:39] did* [16:39] ook goet dankie [16:39] not much i think [16:39] oh yes [16:40] * inetpro not going to scroll [16:40] paddatrapper did this https://code.launchpad.net/~krobbertze/ibidnext/+git/ibidnext [16:41] and https://launchpad.net/ibidnext [16:41] sounds interesting... will check when I have time [16:41] Kilos: The first link no longer is cirrect, https://launchpad.net/ibidnext is the correct one [16:42] s/cirrect/correct [16:42] anything that changed paddatrapper? [16:42] now we hoping to pull in fly and weed so its just the old ibid upgrade once rewritten [16:42] tell him everything paddatrapper [16:42] ohi superfly wb [16:43] inetpro: Well it now runs on distros released this decade [16:43] and it uses ddg inetpro [16:43] ddg? [16:44] duckduckgo [16:44] hehe [16:44] oh my [16:44] i ran one here on lappy [16:44] The aim is to move to python 3 and fix the niggles like searching (ddg), changeable gender pronouns, etc [16:44] but it still has to be done in venv thing [16:45] No deb package yet [16:45] yes she must be a she with panties not jockeys [16:45] ok [16:45] inetpro [16:45] hehe [16:45] Kilos: are we getting warmer weather again? [16:46] if you get involved your karma will rise [16:46] yes very slowly [16:46] was ice here again in the morning [16:47] superfly suggested naming it itrum (again, or refresh) which seems pretty spot on [16:47] iterum [16:47] I should type slower... [16:48] Latin? [16:48] oh then it will meaning getting it accepted as an ubuntu package again wont it superfly [16:48] inetpro: English, just not often used [16:48] yes, but that's easy enough, and I'm sure we can pursuade tumbleweed ;-) [16:49] haha [16:49] paddatrapper: no, inetpro is correct, it is latin [16:51] oh i wont be here in the morning or as long as it takes for second round of pension application [16:52] superfly, paddatrapper: you want to call it Ibid Iterum or just Iterum? [16:53] was thinking just "iterum" but I'm not entirely sure right now. Just been looking at domain names and both .com and .org are taken [16:54] I quite like just Iterum, but the domain names are a pain... [16:54] very difficult to come up with something unique these days [16:54] wow, one could potentially have "https://i.bid/ [16:55] .um is not a domain anymore, sadly [16:55] There is really a TLD for anything [16:55] Except for what we need [16:56] iterum.io and iterum.co.za are both available [16:56] ugh, .io is expensive [16:56] even with my discount [16:57] you looking for a host just for a bot? [16:58] weather liars say 7 and 26 inetpro [16:59] Kilos: of course [16:59] Kilos: for documentation, download, etc [17:00] sjoe [17:05] i can get iterum.tech for $2 per year [17:06] or .online [17:06] a .io is $33 [17:09] whew [17:09] there's iterum.chat for $24 [17:10] let's move this discussion to #iterum [17:10] ok [17:18] good evening [17:22] hi magespawn [17:22] go to #iterum [17:22] why? [17:22] because [17:24] okay am there [17:41] gave my dog some scraps off my plate and he bit me when he snatched at the meat... I was so shocked from the pain I slapped him across the face :( [17:41] and now as a result, I hate myself [17:57] not even my best feel good songs are helping me to feel better now :( [18:01] what happened jerit [18:01] jerit: Your dog will be fine, don't beat yourself up about it [18:01] haha [18:03] I know he'll be fine. I couldn't possibly have hurt him anywhere near as much as he hurt me... But he doesn't understand why he got hurt in the first place [18:03] and that sort of thing is what breaks trust [18:03] teach him to take food gently [18:04] turn the food in your hand away from him and keep saying softly softly [18:04] then slowly turn hand bit by bit [18:04] and dont try it when he is starving either [18:05] our animals behaviour depends on how we train them [18:06] they learn from the tone in your voice [18:06] stern voice means dont push your luck [18:07] Kilos I've been trying to teach him to take gently but the bitch my uncle married (they're divorced now) thought it was fun to tease the dogs so from a young age he's been convinced that he's not going to get the food unless he snaps [18:08] eish [18:08] I never liked that woman [18:08] hard to train out bad habits [18:09] maybe try with something he eats but not to keen on first [18:09] even dog pellets [18:11] I want to train the dogs to take and to eat properly because they scoff themselves when we give them the tinned dog meat [18:12] but I can't do that with all of them around yet. I have to separate them... First I need the treats to give them that'll keep their attention [18:12] good luck [18:13] keep many plasers handy [18:13] and 10 volume peroxide [18:13] always wash dog bies wih i [18:13] it [18:13] bites [18:13] hmm... [18:28] jerit: in the wild there is no such thing as positive. Animals either have neutral or negative [18:30] ahoy ZA! [18:31] jerit patience and time [18:32] hhg [18:32] hi pavlushka [18:32] superfly maybe so but domestic dogs are not wild animals [18:33] just reward every good move with hugs and pats and many good boys [18:50] night all. sleep tight. see you tomorrow avy [18:50] nn Kilos [19:18] gnyt all [20:04] good night all