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YankDownUndermrtrousers: If you're running 16.04, well, the only thing I'd be able to tell you is that if the package that is in the repos doesn't work, you might want to wait a bit until it gets "upgraded" and then pushed down with the normal updates...unless you're desiring to "go outside of the system" and do it the old fashioned way...00:00
WindTaLkeRhi00:01
mrtrousersIve tried compiling and all. Is there a way to get all the dependencies while compiling? auto-apt is supposed to do that but it doesent.00:02
ovrflw0xon ubuntu all audio outputs are detected, but on Xubuntu i only see one output!! how to fix this?00:03
YankDownUndermrtrousers: From a logical standpoint, the "system" is not going to install "lower" versions of libraries...have you considered running a different version in a VM?00:07
mrtrouserswell the thing is its for computing gpu, cpu, etc.. dont know if in virtual machine woudl be as good. WOuld it?00:08
mrtrousersAnd the thins is: Boinc says it supports, ubuntu, ubuntu says it supports boinc, but things dont work..00:09
YankDownUndermrtrousers: Depends on the VM you create...however, that being said, I suppose the whole impetus to the situation you're in is exactly *how* important it is to run SETI/BOINC...and then make decisions based on that priority...00:09
mrtrousersWell of course, i could forget about it and go for a walk, but..00:10
lordcirthWell, thanks for reminding me to install Boinc on my new install.00:11
mrtrousersthe documentation says it should work so it shuld work. Im stubborn like that.00:12
YankDownUndermrtrousers: ...or run out and buy another monitor - OH WAIT, that's my plan, sorry... ;)00:12
sarekI use xset m 1 1 to adjust my mouse as a startup command, but it doesnt work on some startups, so i tried to do an @reboot /usr/bin/xset m 1 1 cronjob but that didnt work. Any ideas?00:12
mrtrousersRight now the option is to go back to windows, and i hate going back for things like this00:12
lordcirthmrtrousers, what was your problem exactly?  It just worked fine for me00:12
lordcirthIt freezes?  Mine seems fine so far00:13
mrtrousersDO you have ubuntu 16.04? Are you using boinc? lordcirth00:13
lordcirthmrtrousers, yes, I literally just installed it now when I saw you asking00:13
mrtrousersOk. DOes your gpu get recognized?00:13
lordcirthKubuntu 16.04, but I doubt that makes a difference00:13
lordcirthmrtrousers, I haven't tried a GPU project yet.  I will test00:13
mrtrousersOK. And close the boinc manager/gui, and open it again.. See what happens..00:14
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lordcirthmrtrousers, closing to tray?  Works fine00:15
mrtrouserswhat you mean closing to tray?00:15
lordcirthmrtrousers, by default, when you click X, it stays running in the notification tray00:16
mrtrousersto the left panel? no i mean close the whole thing and restart the program lrodcirth00:16
mrtrouserslordcirth00:16
lordcirthmrtrousers, ok I will try00:16
lordcirthmrtrousers, seems fine00:17
mrtrousersyou closed totally, and reopened?  It works fine? With all functionality? buttons, etc..?00:17
lordcirthmrtrousers, seems fine00:18
mrtrouserswell, not my case and got a new ubuntu 16.04 install00:18
lordcirthmrtrousers, what does stdout show?00:19
mrtrousersbuttons become whitish and cannto be pushed. and guis says retrieveing data forever00:20
mrtrousersit says command not found00:20
lordcirthmrtrousers, what command?00:21
mrtrouserslorcirth is stdout a termina command?00:21
lordcirthmrtrousers, standard output.  As in, if you launch Boinc Mgr from the command line, does it give an error when it freezes?00:22
mrtrousersno, i launch it from search your computer in the tray00:22
mrtrousersill install again00:23
mrtrouserssudo apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager00:23
mrtrousersHow do you launch it lordcirth?00:23
mrtrousersboinc manager command not found00:24
squintyhyphen00:24
lordcirthmrtrousers, boincmgr .  Use tab-complete, it's a wonderful thing00:24
mrtrousersok boincmgr lordcirth00:24
mrtrousersbuttons white, unable to connect to core client00:25
squintyfwiw, just installed it here with no problems00:25
mrtrousersand 512 gpu error, the ubuntu version just doesent work. At least for me00:26
mrtrouserssquinty you installed?00:27
squintymrtrousers, yes, seems to be no problem here00:28
mrtrousersdid you open boinc manager?00:28
mrtrousersAh ok, did you join a project? and start computing?00:29
squintymrtrousers, yes and joined a project00:29
mrtrousersok now close it00:29
mrtrousersthe whole gui i mean00:29
mrtrousersIf you want suspend the task before..00:29
squintymrtrousers,  completely closed it and then brought it up agaain.  "Retrieving current status"  tbh, never ran this rascal before so am not really sure how it is supposed to respond when it is first opened00:31
lordcirthmrtrousers, did you install the extra package 'boinc-client-nvidia-cuda' ?00:31
mrtrousersand thats the problem. Retrieving current status forever, and whiteish/frozen buttons00:32
mrtrouserslordcirth, yes00:32
mrtrousersIt will only work if you purge boinc-client boinc-manager00:33
mrtrousersThen you can reinstall, but will only work one time00:33
lordcirthmrtrousers, where do you see whether it's detected your GPU?00:35
leafybasilI added the iptable rule "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3000 " which is similar to one I've run on other boxes, but it seems not to be working, any ideas why?00:35
mrtrousersi type boinc in teminal00:35
lordcirthmrtrousers, ah I see00:36
mrtrousersDo you get the gpu error?00:37
mrtrouserslorcirth, does it recognise the gpu or you get 512 error?00:38
lordcirthmrtrousers, 512, however, I am investigating whether running it as the correct user "boinc" makes a difference00:39
mrtrouserslordcirth, does it recognise the gpu or you get 512 error?00:39
mrtrousersah ok, thanks lordcirth00:39
mrtrousersYou see, there was something in there. Ive been like that for 24 hours lol.00:40
mrtrousersAsking boinc and ubuntu.00:40
dailyHi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.00:40
mrtrouserslordcirth my workaround is install boinc from berkeley page http://boinc.berkeley.edu/00:42
mrtrousersBut then it lacks libwxgtk2.8 lordcirth00:43
mrtrouserssquinty did you find a workaround?00:43
lordcirthmrtrousers, hey, so boinc (started properly by the package) keeps a log in /var/log/boinc00:44
lordcirthmrtrousers, and in there, it says it detected my GPU00:44
squintymrtrousers,  first time I ran boinc from commandline got "dir_open: Could not open directory 'slots' from '/home/squinty"  made the directory "slots" and then started the gui again....controls seem responsive now.00:45
mrtrousersok, so if i mkdir slots, the gui will restart fine?00:45
mrtrouserssquinty00:45
squintymrtrousers, well it worked here so might want to give it a try00:46
mrtrousersHow did you start the gui squinty?00:48
squintymrtrousers, via the dash00:48
mrtrousersdash? you mean the search your computer? Was the gui responsive straight away or it took a long time?00:49
mrtrouserswas boinc working on the terminal when you opened boinc manager? squinty00:50
squintymrtrousers,  yes   popped up right away and connected to server(s)00:50
lordcirthI am launching from KDE menu and it's instant00:50
asad_whenever I connect my headphone to my laptop's jack, i hear very a loud buzzing sound00:51
asad_this started today00:51
asad_what could be the problem?00:51
squintymrtrousers,  in terminal when starting "GUI RPC bind to port 31416 failed: 98" and it exited.  starting from the gui seems to be no problems00:51
lordcirthasad_, did you do updates or change anything else in software?00:51
mrtrousersOk i  created slots dir, and now i launch boinc manager and still doesent work.00:51
squintyasad_, check to see what level your input mike is set at00:51
asad_lordcirth: No I didn't do anything. I even reinstalled Ubuntu. Same problem.00:51
lordcirthasad_, then 95% it's hardware.00:52
asad_lordcirth: you mean my headphones?00:52
lordcirthasad_, or laptop jack, or soundcard, or cable... if reinstalling the OS doesn't fix it, it's not software00:52
lordcirthasad_, well, did you do updates when reinstalling?  Could be a regression I suppose00:53
mrtrouserslorcirth what you mean from the kde menu?00:53
asad_lordcirth: how could something suddenly stop working though? it was perfectly fine00:53
mrtrouserssquinty you thing is creating the slots dir that solved it? Can you close and open again?00:54
lordcirthmrtrousers, I am running KDE.  I launched it from the K menu in the bottom left.  Functionally the same as Dash00:54
lordcirthasad_, because things break?  Unlike software, hardware wears out.00:54
asad_lordcirth: all my hardware is new.00:54
squintymrtrousers, here just adding the slots directory and then starting the gui manager, project commands started working00:55
asad_lordcirth: do you suggest trying an older version of ubuntu? maybe 14.04?00:55
asad_lordcirth: im on 16.04.00:55
mrtrouserssquinty you have 16.04?00:55
lordcirthasad_, it's worth a shot I suppose.  Don't bother installing it, just livecd00:55
squintymrtrousers,  yes and up to date00:55
mrtrouserssquinty slots directory was created in home/squinty/?00:55
squintymrtrousers, yes00:55
asad_lordcirth: ill give it a try. lets see what happens.00:56
mrtrousersthen why mine is not working?00:56
squintymrtrousers,  heh  no idea off hand. :-)00:56
squintymrtrousers,  might want to check /remove the contents from the hidden boinc directory ~/home/mrtrousers  for example and then restarting.00:57
transhumanhi got a problem with 4.4 kernel wont boot get flash of purple screen with No UBUNTU on it and then turns black and never boots installed 4.6 kernel and it works fine, cant figure it out. Unfortunately vbox wont work with 4.6 kernel. anyone able to help00:58
mrtrousersStill not working, makes no sense, as i have gone through the same process as squinty00:59
lordcirthtranshuman, this happened when you updated from 4.3?00:59
transhumanyes when I updated from 15.0400:59
squintymrtrousers,  /var/log/boinc.log   might want to check it for error messages01:00
lordcirthmrtrousers, start boinc with systemctl first, btw01:00
transhumanlordcirth from 4.4.0-34 or 4.4.0-31 not sure which01:00
francishello guys01:01
francisi need help here01:01
lordcirthmrtrousers, what GPU?01:01
lordcirth!ask | francis01:01
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francisi just got a mifi surfline  4g router01:01
mrtrousers740m01:02
mrtrousers740 m01:02
mrtrouserslordcirth01:02
francisi know these guys are out there generating unlock codes to unlock this device but i want to know tonight how they go about it.01:02
squintymrtrousers, using unity here btw01:02
lordcirthtranshuman, what GPU?01:02
transhumanthinking of trying AMD built into cpu01:02
transhumanforget what that type is called01:02
mrtrouserssquinty aparently log its ok, like i didnt leave it enough time, but if i leave it i know it will stay forever frozen.01:02
lordcirthtranshuman, APU01:03
mrtrouserssquinty what you mean unity?01:03
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franciscome someone help me out please01:03
lordcirthtranshuman, what APU model?01:03
transhumanradeon R5 Graphics01:03
clearcut__is there any book that helped you focus your work/programming habits, made you consistent, made you get the job done, made you more pragmatic, more smart about how you work, improved your worflow, helped you utilize your time better?01:03
francisok sorry01:03
squintymrtrousers,  default desktop for ubuntu.01:03
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mrtrouserssquinty isnt it gnome?01:04
mrtrouserssquinty lordcirth http://pastebin.com/hCH0MRvf01:04
squintymrtrousers, on top of gnome01:04
mrtrouserssquinty i think i have unity to, it comes by default right01:04
squintymrtrousers,  yes01:05
transhumanlordcirth, its built into the cpu which is probably the source of the problem (its a new tech)01:05
transhuman4.6 doesnt have the problem but it has the vbox problem...I cant win01:05
danhello01:06
squintymrtrousers, 07-Aug-2016 02:27:43 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects   in your paste.  Is Project Commands active now?01:06
mrtrouserssquinty no01:07
lordcirthtranshuman, yes that's the idea, could you tell me your APU model please?  "lscpu | grep Model"01:07
dailyHi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.01:07
transhumanmodel 48 AMD A6-7400K Radeon R5, 6 Compute Cores 2C+4G01:07
lordcirthtranshuman, have you tried troubleshooting with nomodeset?01:09
transhumanwouldnt that affect both kernels?01:10
lordcirthtranshuman, it might workaround a problem with a certain driver version?  It's worth a shot01:10
transhumanit wont even boot I dont think into recovery mode if I remember right (but that was last week) so come to think of it I am not sure its the video..is there a way to be sure01:11
transhumanno problem i will try got a kb on using that?01:11
squintymrtrousers,  fwiw, here is my boinc.log output   might give you a clue as to what's happening at your end   http://paste.ubuntu.com/22521007/01:11
squintymrtrousers, have you updated since installing?   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade  if not01:12
mrtrouserslets try again01:13
lordcirthtranshuman, well, if you can ping it when the screen is black, then it's booted at least partially01:13
mrtrouserssquinty01:13
transhumanah I do that on the kernel command line how do I make it perminent with grub201:14
squintymrtrousers,  got to go and put dinner on  :-(  will be back if I get a chance01:14
mrtrouserswhat was it update and?01:14
transhumanoh I see, i didnt try that01:14
mrtrousersupgrade i guess01:14
lordcirthmrtrousers, full-upgrade , it's right there in scrollback01:15
mrtrousersscrollback?01:15
mrtrousersA no, my irc got closed01:15
mrtrousersso i lost it01:15
mrtrousersupgrade or full-upgrade command not found lordcirth01:16
lordcirthmrtrousers, 'apt update && apt full-upgrade' as he said01:17
lordcirthAll package management is done through apt (or the old apt-get)01:17
kaiinteresting apt seems weird to type, I always put the apt-get lol01:18
lordcirthkai, yeah me too for like 2 weeks01:19
transhumanok lordcirth thanks for the help rebooting now to see if its fixed updated grub.cfg and ran update-grub01:19
transhumanI think thats all i have to do after putting nomodeset in cfg01:19
transhumancan you confirm01:19
lordcirthtranshuman, well, I meant do it temporarily on boot, but that works too01:19
transhumanI am hoping your right. skip a second reboot since nomodeset was on the running kernel but not on 4.401:20
transhumanrebooting01:20
iandawgHey guys, I'm trying to do a clean install of Ubuntu v16 on my laptop (wipe all internal drive contents and install only Ubuntu OS). I've followed the steps to use Rufus USB Installer, created the install media on my Lexar thumbdrive, ran the install using option "Erase all data and install..." But I can't boot from my internal HDD01:22
kaichecked bios settings? strange, took out usb? I'm kinda a noob so yeah I might only have a few ideas01:23
internutiandawg: So, you saw it got all the way through the install and then reboot?01:23
iandawgYes01:23
iandawgIt gave some message that I can continue in "try mode" but I would need to "restart now"01:23
iandawg(clicked restart now)01:23
internutI just installed 30 minutes ago and I never saw any "try mode". Sounds like it had a problem with your install and it suggested a recovery option.01:24
internutI don't think your install completed successfully.01:24
iandawgThe message said the install was successful (I paraphrase the dialog)01:25
iandawgI'm basically running Ubuntu, now, directly from the USB drive.01:25
lordcirthiandawg, internut, at the end of the install, it says you can continue to Try Ubuntu (live) or reboot to use the install.  It's normal01:25
internutoh okay... I didn't do the live mode, I just went straight into install from my USB bootloader01:26
iandawglordcirth : yes.01:26
lordcirthiandawg, and if you don't have the USB in there, nothing boots?01:26
iandawgThat's right01:26
iandawgmy laptop shows a message "no boot media found"01:26
lordcirthiandawg, did you run the USB's self-check?01:26
lordcirthBIOS or UEFI?01:26
iandawgfrom the initial ubuntu USB boot options?01:27
iandawgI've tried both - but UEFI01:27
lordcirthiandawg, yes, when the grub bootloader loads, there's an option to verify the image.  It's a good thing to do even if it's rarely the problem01:28
iandawgI did run that check. returned "no errors"01:28
lordcirthiandawg, ok excellent01:29
lordcirthiandawg, try the top answer here on your liveUSB: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158321/how-can-i-get-grub-to-appear-after-installing-ubuntu-with-windows-7-using-a-live01:31
internutOf course, Ubuntu created a huge swap partition on my NVMe drive. Gonna move that sucker to a slower drive.01:31
codingboyleel01:32
codingboyhi?01:32
iandawglordcirth: even though I ONLY want Ubuntu (not Win7 side-by-side)?01:32
lordcirthiandawg, yes, it's a general solution01:33
lordcirthinternut, use manual partitioning if you have requirements like that :)  Auto is for single-drive standard installs.01:34
elspruhi, I'm trying to install a custom kernel, but update-initramfs says that it is "ignoring old or unused kernel"01:35
elsprushould I be worried about that?01:35
elspruit says that about the kernel I'm installing, and says latest is blank01:35
lordcirthelspru, well, seeing as your initramfs should match your kernel, yes, that's a problem01:35
elspruso how do I fix it?01:36
iandawglordcirth: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update01:36
iandawg Simple tool to repair frequent boot problems.01:36
iandawgWebsite: https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home01:36
iandawg More info: https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/ubuntu/boot-repair01:36
iandawgPress [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it01:36
iandawggpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpn317tlgs/secring.gpg' created01:36
elspruokay I'm trying that boot-repair thing01:38
transhumanwell that didnt work. worse yet I cant try installing amd video drivers from AMD because of no support from 16.0401:40
iandawglordcirth: http://pastebin.com/YAaEudBa01:40
lordcirthiandawg, please dont paste multiple lines01:40
elspruhmmm can't use boot-repair because don't have GUI, my boot problems extend to no kernel modules loading, so no x server01:40
iandawgSorry about that01:41
iandawgI created a pastebin link with the output01:41
transhumanany other ideas lordcirth01:41
transhumani am plum out01:41
lordcirthtranshuman, 14.04?01:41
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transhumanwhat about 14.04?01:41
transhumanI cant downgrade..wishing i never upgraded to be honest01:42
kaiJust wondering if anyone could help with a sound issue, I think this might be my problem01:42
lordcirthtranshuman, load your backups :P01:42
kai[   66.458089] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: Disabling MSI01:42
kai[   66.458096] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: Handle VGA-switcheroo audio client01:42
kai[   66.460952] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: no codecs found!01:42
elsprutranshuman: lol, in same boat here01:42
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transhumanum... backups? no backups on this workstation I just started using it for IoT development01:43
transhumanI dont really want to start over again01:43
lordcirthiandawg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/761592/unable-to-apt-get-dist-upgrade-on-a-persistent-ubuntu-16-04-usb/01:43
transhumanelspru what trouble you having01:44
elspruold kernel, and no modules01:44
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elspruno x-server, just console, am using irssi01:44
transhumanopposite for me new kernel no modules and stock kernel not working with cpu/gpu combo01:45
transhumanstupid me tried to save money buying a gpu regretting it now01:45
elspruI recompiled a new kernel, which should work, but it's not being understood by update-initramfs01:45
transhumanwhat error is it giving you/01:45
lordcirthelspru, did you follow this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile01:46
elspruit is telling me that it is ignoring the old or unknown kernel (the one I compiled) and saying latest is blank01:46
transhumanwith my problem i dont get is that I can run it on a newer kernel so its not like there is a interfering module loading or something01:47
kaiIf anyone could help with a no sound related issue Much would be appreciated. :)01:47
transhumankai i have one of those too01:47
elsprukai: hae you tried sdl for sound? mplayer -ao sdl01:48
transhumanin my case kai it wont recognize the microphone on the headset from 5below01:48
transhumanbeen at this all freaking day my ass is killing me from sitting in this damn seat ...my stand up workstations fan is dead and so i cant run it...gee wiz nothing is working lately01:50
mrtrousershello01:54
elsprutranshuman: I think it migth make most sense to backup your work to an external hard drive or usb/sd, then install a fresh version.01:55
elspruthat's what I'm planning if I don't manage to get it working by the end of the day01:55
* elspru already has backups on several other computers01:55
mrtrousershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4UumdHxgqo01:56
transhumanelspru and everyone else found the amd beta drivers which support 16.04 going to try it http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx01:57
mrtrousersOk, i rebooted and now wallet is resyncing will it take another 48 hours? It makes no sense01:57
lordcirthmrtrousers, bitcoin wallet?01:58
elspruk so moment of truth I'm going to reboot01:58
mrtrousersyup, my mistake i was writin in another tab01:59
lordcirthmrtrousers, ah ok.02:00
devanHello, I have installed mpd and ncmpcpp and I used it once pointing my Music directory to ~/Music folder and for some reason I havent changed any of the config and it is not finding any media, It worked the first time i used it and now it isnt detecting any media02:11
devanI have checked permissions on all music folders and I have RWX access as user on all02:11
dailyHi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.02:12
logyHi everyone, I just want to ask are there any versions of gedit, leafpad or mousepad for windows?02:14
lordcirthlogy, a quick search says yes for gedit: https://blogs.gnome.org/nacho/2014/07/30/gedit-3-for-windows/02:15
lordcirthHowever there's probably a newer version than that02:15
iandawglordcirth: I'm back... my computer froze while running that second command you gave me. Can you send me those linnks, again?02:16
lordcirthlogy, 2016: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/binaries/win64/gedit/02:16
logythank you lordcirth i searched for a leightweight text editor thats a bit better than notepad, thank you02:16
lordcirthiandawg,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/158321/how-can-i-get-grub-to-appear-after-installing-ubuntu-with-windows-7-using-a-live    http://askubuntu.com/questions/158321/how-can-i-get-grub-to-appear-after-installing-ubuntu-with-windows-7-using-a-live02:17
kaiCan anyone help me with a no sound issue? Think it might be related to this dmesg output "snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: no codecs found!" thanks02:21
lordcirthkai, did you try installing some codecs?02:23
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bassam_Hi. I make a change to my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d file and now xfce won't start anymore. Can someone help?02:30
lordcirthbassam_, undo the change?02:30
bassam_lord4163_, the problem is is that I use crouton(for chromeboxes) and now I am unable to start xfce02:31
bassam_lord4163_, therefore I can't access the file02:31
lordcirthbassam_, wrong username autocomplete.  You can't get a command line?02:31
bassam_lordcirth, sorry. I'm at the command line in chromebox but I cannot edit 50-synaptics.conf file which is located in the directory i mentioned02:32
lordcirthbassam_, why not?02:33
bassam_lordcirth, well, when I try to get into the directory xorg.conf.d from the shell in chromebox, it says it doesn't exist02:33
bassam_lordcirth, i can get to X11 but the only directory there is xkb02:34
lordcirthbassam_, well, you probably have to start crouton or whatever to get into the Ubuntu install.  You're in ChromeOS.02:34
bassam_lordcirth, it gives me an error and ubuntu xfce doesn't start :/02:35
AciD`hey, I'm currently updating my 16.04 ubuntu computer, but somehow the upgrade freeze on grub-pc update just after the 'Found memtest86+ image : /boot/memtest86+.bin' line. Additionally, I can ls /boot, but cannot `df` without having that cmd freeze too. Is that bad doctor?02:35
AciD`also; I seeing a warning about the sector 32 being already used by a 'flexnet' program02:36
Jordan_Ubassam_: I'm guessing crouton uses a chroot, so you just need to find out where the Ubuntu root directory is stored.02:36
bassam_Jordan_U, yes i believe it does. Any idea how I would find out?02:37
Codenomicsok so horribly stupid question... I am creating a symlink, I want the files to actually be stored in dir called store so I would "ln -s original/dir /path/to/store" correct?02:37
Codenomicsor other way around?02:37
AciD`Codenomics > try it, it won't owerwrite anything02:38
Codenomicstry it?02:38
Jordan_UAciD`: df freezing is not a good sign. The warning about flexnet won't hurt you, it just means that you installed some software in Windows from a company that cares more about enforcing DRM than the well-being of its users (probably Adobe Photoshop).02:38
bassam_Jordan_U, oh i think I found it, let me see if i can make a change02:39
CodenomicsAciD`: I can try it... but I wanted to make sure that I had it right before I tried it02:39
AciD`Jordan_U > bummer, I haven't booted under windows for years now :/02:40
Jordan_UAciD`: dmesg | pastebinit02:40
bassam_Success!! thanks guys02:40
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Jordan_UAciD`: The flexnet DRM bits stay on your drive until you explicitly remove them.02:41
AciD`Jordan_U > well, I just typed `reboot` as root, but it seems to no go very far :/02:41
mrtrousersHello02:42
mrtrouserssquinty02:42
mrtrouserslordcirth02:42
lordcirthmrtrousers, hi02:42
mrtrousersi got the deb package and installed.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libwxgtk2.8-0/download02:42
mrtrouserswhy im still getting the same error:02:43
mrtrouserserror while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:43
Bashing-omCodfection: Basically, think of it like this: ln -s 'location to link to' 'name of symlink' . See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2316613 for a great explanation .02:43
AciD`well, weird02:43
AciD`a reboot (hard reset in fact) solved the df -h problem Jordan_U02:44
AciD`now, to remove that flexnet malware..02:44
AciD`:)02:44
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mrtrouserswhy installing the deb package wont fix the error?02:47
mrtrousersi got the deb package and installed.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libwxgtk2.8-0/download02:48
mrtrouserserror while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:48
mrtrousersHelp!02:48
Bashing-om!info boinc02:48
ubottuboinc (source: boinc): metapackage for the BOINC client and the manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.6.31+dfsg-6ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 14 kB, installed size 84 kB02:48
mrtrousersTHis version doesnt work, its buggy and it sucks02:49
Bashing-ommrtrousers: Compare ^ to ' dpkg -l boinc '. Maybe you have an old version of boinc installed ??02:49
mrtrousersno its good02:50
Bashing-om!find libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.002:51
ubottuPackage/file libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 does not exist in xenial02:51
Bashing-om!find libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 trusty02:51
ubottuFile libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 found in libwxgtk2.8-002:51
Bashing-ommrtrousers: ' apt-cache depends libwxgtk2.8-0 ; apt cache rdepends libwxgtk2.8-0 ' ?02:53
mrtrousersno packages found02:54
pkuykenIs there a way to configure the menu bar in Unity to show the entire application name, rather than chop it off?02:55
Jordan_UAciD`: Ok. Be sure to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt full-upgrade" to be sure all pending upgrade stuffs completed.02:58
Bashing-ommrtrousers: Required ! see : ' apt show libwxgtk2.8-0 ' output .02:58
Fr_Dae+1 Jordan_U03:00
Fr_Daefuck apt-get, => juste apt with color is cool =)03:00
lordcirth!language | Fr_Dae03:01
ubottuFr_Dae: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList03:01
Fr_Daeok ok sorry03:02
Bashing-ommrtrousers: Humm .. to this time I can not find a libwxgtkXXXX in xenial .03:03
kanar1anhello03:04
kanar1anhow can i find channel list ?03:05
AciD`Jordan_U -> just curious, is there a difference between `apt full-upgrade` and `apt-get dist-upgrade`?03:06
Bashing-ommrtrousers: This one the one that we need ' ls -al /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwx_gtk2u_html-3.0.so.0 ' ? per : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libwx_gtk2u_html&mode=filename&suite=xenial&arch=any .03:09
Jordan_UAciD`: Possibly a subtle difference but I think the results of either will be exactly identical 99% of the time.03:12
AciD`ok03:12
kurowahello03:15
phionaon 16.04, why does an insstall of inkscape also remove grub-customizer?  if i remove grub-customizer, will it now affect  grub?03:15
Jordan_UAciD`: apt is a new front end, and the "dist-upgrade" name is historical and somewhat confusing so since they didn't need to worry about backwards compatability they changed it :)03:16
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AciD`Jordan_U -> well in that case I guess that means I'm old ;)03:16
AciD`also, for info, I found a very clear explanation on how to remove that flexnet malware : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166125403:17
kurowaso. in 16.04, is there a way to uninstall everything and return ubuntu to the state where it is freshly installed?03:17
TheFlyHey ya'll.  I've a question. Instead of a bootable CD or USB, can I make an external HDD bootable?  Just burn the iso to the USB drive it's connected to, right?03:19
Jordan_Ukurowa: You can re-install preserving /home (which will preserve the settings of any programs run as your user) or re-install just preserving your documents / media (the latter you would have to do manually).03:20
TheFlyBasically, my files are stuck on a drive.  Testdisk can take them off but only the drive you boot up on.  500gb is too big for a USB drive.  But if I boot from an external HDD, I can copy right on to that03:20
Jordan_UTheFly: A hard drive is a hard drive for the purposes of booting. (Also, "burning" is a term that only applies to optical media like DVDs).03:21
kurowaJordan_U: if I saved document on another partition, do I need to backup? I want to return it to freshly installed state, removing all programs and config.03:22
TheFlyJordan_U:  Okay, very well.  Nonetheless, is what I'm hypothesizing correct?03:22
kurowaThe second one.03:22
kurowayes03:22
TheFlykurowa talking to me?03:23
TheFlyno nm, you're not03:23
Jordan_Ukurowa: Yes and no. You don't "need" to backup, but no matter what you're doing you should always have backups of any important files.03:23
kurowaI'm dual booting, so I made partition for access to windows too.03:23
kurowaJordan_U03:23
kurowaTheFly: Sorry.03:23
TheFlyHow did you message me and make your text red?03:24
Jordan_UTheFly: I don't understand the limitation you're talking about. Testdisk should have no problem recovering files from a drive it wasn't booted from; in fact it's probably the more common case.03:24
Jordan_UTheFly: By including your nick at the start of my message.03:24
JeffATLI am about to gift a freshly-installed ubuntu machine to a woman whose autistic son starts an online class on Monday. Does anyone know if a USB headset will plug in and Just Work (tm)? I don't have one to test with.03:25
Jordan_U!tab | To make highlighting people more convenient:03:25
ubottuTo make highlighting people more convenient:: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:25
TheFlyJordan_U when I press left key in in Testdisk to go all the way... I can't find the external drives attached to my PC03:25
TheFlyJordan_U I can only browse within the USB in which I booted into Ubuntu.03:26
Jordan_UJeffATL: I think it most likely will, but I don't have a lot of personal experience (I have used a USB headset with my Ubuntu machine, and I don't remember it being a hassle).03:27
JeffATLJordan_U: thank you!03:27
Jordan_UTheFly: Look in /media/03:27
phionaon 16.04, why does an insstall of inkscape also remove grub-customizer?  if i remove grub-customizer, will it now affect  grub?03:27
TheFlyJordan_U Ok thanks!03:27
kurowaJordan_U. I have backup. then03:27
kurowaJordan_U: I have backup. then?03:28
Jordan_Uphiona: How did you install grub-customizer?03:28
Jordan_Ukurowa: Re-install, then copy / mount / symlink (whatever you want to do) your data where you want it.03:28
phionaJordan_U: i dont remember. i think  with synaptic.03:30
Jordan_Uphiona: It's not available in the default repositories.03:31
lordcirthJeffATL, look up the model + 'linux' or 'ubuntu'03:31
Jordan_USorry, I have to leave.03:31
lordcirthOr do you not know the model?03:31
dailyHi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.03:33
phionaJordan_U: ok. so iet was probably installed with terminal.03:34
JeffATLlordcirth: i'm texting to ask03:35
phionaJordan_U: ok. so it was probably installed with terminal.03:36
TheFlyJordan_U: Hey man thanks for that!03:41
TheFlyJordan_U:  Files are currently copying.  I feel like Tom Hanks AFTER the storm in castaway.  I'm coming home.....03:42
CoolBreeze227is there a libgcrypt20 library of files that can file downloaded together03:42
CoolBreeze227I downloaded one file it said i needed and they when i tried to run it it said i need another one03:42
CoolBreeze227i thought i might be missing some files maybe03:43
TheFly#porn03:43
TheFlylol03:43
TheFlyhow to do I to a different channel?03:43
daxTheFly: /join #channelname03:43
TheFlyTHANKS dax!03:43
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sarekI want a backup solution thats as close to time machine as possible. Something where i dont have to restore the whole thing, but can actually browse files by date and pick and choose. Anything like that exist?04:04
kaito the new monitor04:05
MelRayJust installed 16.04 at first Unity displayed a shorcuts page. How do I bring it back up?04:13
phionaJordan_U: ok. so it was probably installed with terminal.04:17
MelRayHolding down the super key (windows key) does nothing to bring up the keyboard shortcuts display?04:20
pfifoHey everyone :)04:27
pfifoI am trying to use grep just like i have a bajillion times in the past, but after updating to 16.04 it is now tacking extra data onto its output 'Binary file (standard input) matches' what is going on, it never did this before?04:28
sponixpfifo: Did you remember the --sucks=off flag ?04:28
pfifosponix: I have never done that in the past, if such a directive was being used it was an alias in my bashrc04:30
mrtrousershello04:30
mrtrouserscan you get graphic interface in ubuntu server?04:30
lordcirthmrtrousers, just install one of the desktop packages, like xubuntu-desktop04:31
lordcirthAlthough generally the point of Server is that you don't...04:31
BUSYhow can i add a repository to install xchat04:35
Bashing-omBUSY: Why ? as xchat is not longer maintained ?04:36
Bashing-om!xchat04:36
ubottuxchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.04:36
BUSYBashing-om: thanks!04:37
pfifois irssi activly maintained?04:42
mrtrousershow can i close an application in ubuntu terminal?04:43
mrtrouserscontrol c04:44
Myrttipfifo: yes04:44
Bashing-ompfifo: #irssi channel for support .04:48
pfifogood, i would hate to lose it04:49
Xemy surface pro 3 is somehow installing a non-efi version of ubuntu when it is booted over EFI, how do I force an efi install if EFI detection fails?05:25
reisioXe: what's the install medium?05:26
Xereisio: USB, created by `dd`05:27
Xeubuntu 16.04.1 image fwiw05:28
reisioread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?05:28
* Xe grabs boot-repair and tries again05:31
chuksthanks05:32
ilithiosq05:36
jayZhey ya all05:36
ilithioshello05:37
mrtrousershello05:38
mrtrousersim running an ubuntu server, i want to run a task, and then close the shell but leave the tas running05:39
ilithiosAre there people here who are able to help me? I am unable to log in. I can get to a console where I am now and it works fine, but when I try to log in to the desktop interface it just keeps going back to the login05:39
cfhowlett!server | mrtrousers05:40
ubottumrtrousers: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server05:40
mrtrouserscfhowlett i already have that05:40
mrtrousersim executing a task and want to close the shell but leave it running05:41
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reisiomrtrousers: use screen, or tmux05:42
reisiofor something better, look into init scripts/service files05:42
reisioAKA daemonization05:42
chuksplease how do i uninstall a program from my ubuntu computer. i am new user05:45
ilithiosanyone have any ideas? I'm unable to log into the desktop but can use the console.05:45
cfhowlettchuks, go to the software center and remove it05:46
ilithios*05:47
ilithioshelp? sendline05:47
cfhowlett!bepatient | ilithios05:48
cfhowlett!patience05:48
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:48
ilithiosok I wasn't sure if I had correctly sennt the message so anyone saw it. I am not used to command line IRC client05:49
panpanHello, im using a vnc service and sometimes it crashes, i try to restart and kill the service but i get this error "net:1 is taken because of /tmp/.X1-lock"05:49
Xei don't like how the boot repair livedisk doesn't contain EFI booting support05:51
cfhowlettXe,  except it does05:51
Xecfhowlett: what is the correct way to make an EFI friendly boot disk from a mac?05:52
cfhowlettXe, never done it for a mac. see the wiki.05:52
cfhowlett!mac05:52
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages05:52
Xeno i mean05:53
Xei dd'd the image over to the USB drive05:53
Xeand the machine is not booting off of it05:53
Xethe machine in question is a surface pro 3, i am writing an image via my mac05:53
Xeshould i dd it to the raw device or just a partition on it?05:54
cfhowletthaven't installed on a Surface Pro either. please see: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=surface+pro+ubuntu+install&t=canonical&ia=web05:55
Xeyes, the model of the computer is largely irellevant for most purposes. I just want to fix efi.05:56
reisioXe: what's the actual error?05:59
Xereisio: the error is that the machine is not booting05:59
Xethat is the crux of the debug information the surface pro 3 machine gives05:59
Xethe efi system partition has way too little data in it05:59
cfhowlettcan't be much more non-informative than that ...05:59
reisioXe: what happens when it boots up?06:00
Xeleading me to believe that the kernel and grub is not installed there06:00
reisiohow far does it get06:00
Xereisio: it dumps you to the bios boot screen unless you boot it off of an ubuntu 16.04 drive. I'm in a chicken and egg scenario because i need to install a custom kernel package but in order to do that i need to boot the system06:00
reisioXe: drive?06:01
reisioTMI anyway06:01
reisioyou're saying your image on a usb stick does not boot at all?06:01
reisiothe bios/uefi doesn't accept it as a thing to boot from?06:01
Xeit doesn't boot if it's the boot repair CD06:01
Xeif it's fedora or ubuntu, works fine06:02
reisio"works fine" doesn't sound like a problem to me06:02
Xeyes but06:02
Xethen when you install it to the system06:02
Xethe system does not boot into ubuntu06:02
Xewhen you reboot it that is06:02
reisiowhat's it boot to?06:02
Xethe bios settings screen because it cannot find an OS06:02
reisiodoes it say "can't find an os"?06:03
Xeno06:03
reisiowhat does it say?06:03
Xeit gives no error message, it just doesn't work06:03
Xethat is how the surface pro 3 hardware is :/06:03
reisioso you can boot the install media06:04
Xe...okay06:04
reisioand you can chroot into your installation that's on the internal storage?06:05
Xeusing unetbootin worked06:05
Xe...and of course the keyboard doesn't work in the live session06:05
Xe"please enable a repository containing the [linux-generic] packages in the software sources of ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (sda2). Then try again."06:09
Xe"failed to run /bin/bash"06:11
Xei think this install is boned...06:11
reisioXe: that from a chrooting attempt?06:12
Xereisio: yeah06:13
Xei am just gonna reinstall06:13
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Xesomehow the ubuntu installer installed a system without core packages06:14
Xelike coreutils and bash06:15
ilithios /quit06:15
acerhow do you switch between apps06:31
acerusing alt + tab06:31
acer?06:31
acerwhats the keyboard shortcut06:31
reisioacer: yes, alt+tab06:31
acerbecause the system monitor is saying theres 2 gedits running thats using a ton of memory06:32
acerand i can't switch to it06:32
reisiokillall gedit06:33
Xereisio: yeah, even doing a reinstall doesn't get it working06:34
Xesigh06:34
reisionot sure what made you think doing the same thing over again would produce a different result06:34
reisioyou dual booting?06:34
Xei made the USB via a different means (unetbootin vs dd)06:35
noobuntuAre there linux apps that can do what https://www.desmos.com/calculator does?06:37
noobuntuBasically graph equations and interact with them by changing constants?06:40
reisionoobuntu: yup06:41
reisiothere are entire emulators of physical graphing calculators, even06:42
reisiobut those are kinda for tourists :p06:42
OerHeksQalculate can do plot/graph AFAIK06:42
noobuntureisio: name?06:47
reisiox48?06:49
yinflying2016:q06:52
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mohamadhey07:01
reisioheyo07:02
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Geomdead wow07:12
OERIASdwdfdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddccccccccccccccccccc          dvaaaaaaaaaaavvAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:27
baizonOERIAS: do you experience keyboard problems?07:27
OERIASsorry my I justed spilled water07:28
OerHeksbuy that cat some food, OERIAS07:28
ilithioshello again. I updgraded to Ubuntu 16,04 but still can't log in to my desktop. But since the upgrade now it flashes a screen with a whole bunch of "clearing inode" messages indtead of just flashing the screen at me. but still end up back at the login prompt. any ideas?07:40
baizonilithios: try creating a new user07:41
ilithiosok will try that07:42
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OerHekstons of upgrade issues lately: boot, hold shift, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run update -f, all should be fine now07:42
ilithiosOerHeks: it should be noted that this is not a new issue after upgrade. It's the same issue that existed before th eupgrade but the upgrade didn't fix it. the only difference now is that it shows a bunch of messages about "clearing inode" instead of doing nothing at all07:45
lotuspsychjemy unity-greeter got stuck on a previous picture and doesnt wanna load my current wallpaper on 16.04, any clues to reset stuff? been messing with dconf-editor but no luck07:46
cfhowlettilithios, relevant information!  please run df -i | pastebin07:46
ilithiospastebin: command not found07:48
ilithiosis this something i need to install?07:48
cfhowlettilithios, relevant information!  please run df -ih | nc termbin.com 999907:48
ilithioshttp://termbin.com/su1h07:49
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cfhowlettclick on that ilithios07:50
ilithioswell I can't click it, it's in a terminal window. I can go there with Lynx?07:50
ilithiosI mean not window. it's in a terminal07:51
cfhowlettopen your browser and go there07:51
ilithiosOk I have that up. It was sulh, not su1h. 1 and l look almost exactly the same in this terminal07:56
cfhowlett:)07:57
cfhowlettdo it again and read the output07:57
ilithiosoutput was the same both times. type it all here?07:59
cfhowlettno type the new URL here07:59
cfhowlettand it should NOT be the same!07:59
ilithiostermbin.com/69u707:59
ilithioshmm well i don't see any difference08:00
ilithiosI mean the info on the page is the same. not the url08:00
cfhowlettilithios, OK, well my theory was that your inodes were filling up your storage but that is clearly not th ecase08:00
ilithioshmm. ok. I am in a terminal on the same computer and it works just fine. just can't log in to the desktop08:01
gebbionewill upgrading from 14 to 16 cause problems? ie. need to reconfigure stuff08:02
gebbionere-install etc08:02
cfhowlettgebbione, in most cases, no problems.  *most* cases08:03
lotuspsychjegebbione: make a backup just in case if you like08:04
psicobrahi all need a hand please with getting fstab to auto mount a bind08:05
psicobrai put what i thought was right but then it didnt boot08:06
lotuspsychje!fstab | psicobra08:07
ubottupsicobra: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions08:07
psicobrai know what fstab is ]08:08
psicobraotherwise why would i mention it08:08
lotuspsychjepsicobra: did you read the fstab wiki, howto also?08:08
ilithiosfor what it's worth created a new user and it does the same thing. also the guest login does the same thing08:12
reactormonkCan I just dd the .iso onto an USB stick or do I need to apply some magic to get it working?08:19
cfhowlett!usb | reactormonk08:19
ubottureactormonk: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:19
psicobraok so i got fstab to mount the usb drive binded to my ftp server chroot but its blank08:22
psicobrasays the folder is empty08:22
psicobraim out of ideas08:22
psicobrahttp://pastebin.com/SKEnxiy108:24
psicobrathat is my fstab08:24
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segmastarHello?08:59
cfhowlett!ask08:59
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:59
lotuspsychjesegmastar: what can we do for you?08:59
uebera||!patience09:00
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/09:00
segmastarI install ubuntu 16.04LTS on my external hard drive but it can't boot.09:01
segmastarWhat should I do?09:01
lotuspsychjesegmastar: your external hd is connected via usb?09:01
segmastaryep09:02
segmastarusb 3.009:02
lotuspsychjesegmastar: not very recommended as usb will bottleneck your ubuntu09:02
segmastarbut I want to use it on public computer09:02
Geomi have installed using only 2gb ram. now, i will add another 6 to make it 8gb. do i just plug it in and its done, or do i need to edit something in ubuntu?09:03
lotuspsychjesegmastar: you could use the liveusb?09:03
segmastarBut can I install software while using live usb?09:03
OerHekssegmastar, be sure you have grub on that ext hdd too.09:03
segmastarI have install grub on it09:04
segmastar*installed09:04
lotuspsychjeGeom: not needed, whats your swap space right now?09:04
Geomlotuspsychje:  that i have to check. what ever the dafult is09:05
lotuspsychje!swap | Geom have a look here09:05
ubottuGeom have a look here: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info09:05
lotuspsychjeGeom: you can install preload aswell, will work nicely with your new ram09:06
lotuspsychje!info preload | Geom09:06
ubottuGeom: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (xenial), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB09:06
Geomchecking.. thanks for the link and the info09:06
lotuspsychjesegmastar: whats the reason you choose ubuntu for a public pc? what will you be doing?09:07
uebera||segmastar: To answer your question: yes, you can install SW using a live image (it will be placed in a separate container)09:08
segmastarMany things. Do Data analysis with octave09:08
lotuspsychjesegmastar: the owner of the public agree with this? or perhaps lets you install ubuntu internal/permanently?09:09
Vmong1Hi Guys09:15
lotuspsychjeVmong1: what can we do for you?09:16
Vmong1Hey lotuspsychje, thanks for asking. I just pinged here so that i can contribute to the community along with you guys09:17
Vmong1Cheers09:18
cfhowlett!contribute | Vmong109:18
ubottuVmong1: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu09:18
Vmong1thanks ubottu, will check it out09:18
lotuspsychjeVmong1: anything specific you wanna contribute with?09:19
Tobias92Hey guys, I have enabled the debsums cronjob on my server, so I get emails about files with a mismatched md5sum. Since upgrading to Xenial, I keep getting mails about a mismatch for '/usr/share/doc/module-init-tools/changelog.Debian.gz'; it seems like the last line is being changed to refer to 'libkmod2' rather than 'module-init-tools' (probably by unattended upgrades). Has anyone got a hint on how to debug this?09:20
lotuspsychjeTobias92: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might seen that issue before?09:21
Tobias92lotuspsychje, ah thanks, I'll try asking there09:21
Vmong1Guys anyone know is there any active chatrooms for apache hive ? if so chatroom name plz09:22
lotuspsychje!alis | Vmong109:22
ubottuVmong1: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http09:22
lotuspsychjeVmong1: there's a general #httpd channel if you like09:22
Vmong1lotus, http channel are they discussing about apache hive ?09:24
lotuspsychjeVmong1: you could ask apache related issues i guess09:25
Vmong1oh is it.. lemme try there, thanks so much09:26
_peter_@search Robert charles wilson09:28
Guest28806Does anyone of you have suggestions which Ubuntu to install on an old laptop (Pentium M 1.5 Ghz, 1024 MB RAM, 40 GB HDD)?09:28
cfhowlettGuest28806, lubuntu or MAYBE xubuntu09:28
cfhowlettGuest28806, of course if you don't need a gui, that model would make a perfectly usable server09:29
_peter_sry guys09:29
Guest28806i see, thanks. I've been trying around for quite a time now, but most Distris I've tried to far, are too heavy for the system. ;)09:29
cfhowlettlubuntu is the lightest IRC09:30
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segmastarJust tell me how,please09:42
miharuhello.09:43
miharuCan I request tutorials using ubuntu and linux? I've messed up my pc so bad that I need to reinstall ubuntu.09:45
cfhowlett!manual | miharu09:46
ubottumiharu: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/09:46
eswarhow to add apps shortcut in desktop09:46
kvmmmanyone know how to fix subtitles that look like this? ãîëëàíäñêèé09:46
phionaon 16.04, why does an insstall of inkscape also remove grub-customizer?  if i remove grub-customizer, will it now affect  grub?09:47
cfhowlettkvmmm, if you do not have the language packs installed, you will not get the correct subtitles09:47
cfhowlettphiona, test it for yourself: apt-get -s purge grub-customizer will SIMULATE the operation not execute09:48
miharucfhowlett: thanks.09:48
cfhowletthappy2help! miharu09:48
miharuI'm learning to be an android developer though. Is this information sufficient for me?09:48
kvmmmthanks. cfhowlett how do I install language packs?09:48
kvmmmoh, actually I think I can figure that out09:49
miharuwell, I've learned my lesson to not blindly install everything.09:49
eswarplease me, how to add shortcut of the apps to desktop09:51
phionahow do we install inkscape without removing grub-costumizer?09:52
OerHekseswar, just drag, http://i.imgur.com/8ND6ngv.gif09:53
eswarok, thanks09:53
emusicjoin #linux09:55
kvmmmand is there a way to change the timing of the subtitles so it matches the audio?10:01
kvmmmin the default ubuntu video player. Or am I better off with VLC?10:01
YankDownUnderkvmmm: Your choice. Most prefer VLC...10:02
kvmmmbut does the default player allow me to change subtitle timing?10:02
YankDownUnderkvmmm: Most media players do...just a matter of reading the dox10:03
phionahow do we install inkscape without removing grub-costumizer?10:03
YankDownUnderphiona: Are you doing this through the normal repos?10:03
cristian_chello10:04
cristian_cI'm experiencing a strange issue with 16.0410:04
phionaYankDownUnder:  with inkscape., yes.10:04
kvmmmok, thanks!10:05
cristian_cnow, I'm always getting failed to stsrt login service loop in the boot log10:05
cristian_c*start10:05
YankDownUnderphiona: And what is telling you to remove "grub-customiser"?10:05
cristian_cstart and stop login service messages10:05
cristian_calong start and stop network manager and lightdm similar messages10:06
phionaYankDownUnder: synaptic10:06
ducassephiona: grub-customizers is not in the standard repos, that's why you're getting conflicts - bad packaging.10:06
cristian_cin an infijite loop10:06
cristian_c*infinite10:06
cristian_cso, I can never reach the login screen10:06
mirakhi10:07
cristian_cI read also 'see systemctl status systemd-logind.service' and similar messages for network manager and lightdm services10:07
mirakhow do i extract files from duplicity archive in command line ?10:07
cristian_cWhat method coukd I following to figure out what goes wrong?10:08
cristian_cAny ideas?10:08
phionaducasse: so, how do we install inkscape without removing grub-costumizer?10:08
cristian_c*could10:08
ducassephiona: if the packages conflict, you probably can't. i would install inkscape and try to find a package of grub-customizer that doesn't have the conflict. or build one yourself.10:09
cristian_cmirak: duplicity?10:10
mirakcristian_c: duplicity10:10
muddyfunsGood day / good afternoon / good evening10:10
OerHeksphiona, file a bug to the grub customizer maintainer, i see no simular bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/grub-customizer10:10
cristian_cmirak: what is this?10:11
cristian_cah, ok10:11
cristian_c!info duplicity10:11
ubottuduplicity (source: duplicity): encrypted bandwidth-efficient backup. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.06-2ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 173 kB, installed size 1088 kB10:12
OerHekstons of options, mirak >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/duplicity.1.html10:12
mirakOerHeks: I know that, but it complains it can't find files in ~/.cache/duplicity, so I don't know how you will restore in case of a complete system crash .10:13
jattj10:14
OerHeksmirak, so you don't want to know howto get files from your backup? as you know that?10:15
phionaducasse: or install inkscape now then install grub costumizer after. is that what youre saying?? :)10:15
ducassephiona: that will most likely remove inkscape again.10:16
mirakOerHeks: what makes you think I  don't want that ?10:17
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owen hello network manager is not working with my evdo connection zte 8700 before it was connecting.Now it is connecting through windows xp only using driver cd10:18
OerHeksmirak, as you don't seem to like the manual page, but come up with a different question. do we need to know more before starting to find out your issue?10:18
mirakOerHeks: what makes you think I don't already know the man page ?10:19
mirakOerHeks: ok haha, I asked more detailed somewhere else10:19
OerHeksyeah, return the problem to me10:19
OerHeksyou asked, not me mirak .10:20
mirakOerHeks: in #duplicity. so I did the right command already, but it complains that it can't find a file in ~/.cache/duplicity  which makes we wonder how you can restore files10:20
mirakOerHeks: I mean restore files on a different system10:21
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OerHeksdid you browse and see if it is actually there? also on the source machine or backupmedia?10:22
OerHeksmirak,  did duplicity find ANY file at all?10:25
mirakOerHeks: the question is why would I need something in there . Because if you archive on a drive, you want to be able to recover the files even if the computer that hosted the original files burns.10:25
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mirakSo i don't understand what is the issue10:26
mirakfortunely for me I am not in that situation10:26
OerHeksif it does not find any file, it could be an owner issue of the folder, or the backupfiles10:26
mirakbackup files are on a ntfs drive10:27
mirakabout owner ok, maybe I should try as root10:27
OerHekshmm ntfs does not preserve rightmanagment10:27
mirakOerHeks: but it was the issue, that's weird, it works as root, just to list the files10:28
mirakMaybe yeah, I saved as root and the .cache folder was owned by root, that certainly the issue10:28
OerHeksjups, chown the to $USER:$USER ( your user)10:28
mirakOerHeks: I think also I can select another patt with --archive-dir option10:28
mirakI just want to be sure I can do what I want from another system, but that would be dumb not to be able to10:29
OerHeksi think you got the tail of your issue now10:29
mirakyes. however the error message could be more clear10:30
cristian_clol10:31
ElectroMotiveso parole media player is broken on ubuntu studio10:34
ElectroMotivewhenever I try to replay something after its playedd once it will not play it10:35
cristian_ccould it be a good idea reconfiguring the services?10:35
cristian_cAnd what between them?10:35
cristian_c*what ones10:36
cristian_c*packages related to the services10:36
cristian_cElectroMotive: only parole?10:37
ElectroMotivewell i have not tried any others yet10:37
ElectroMotivenot that i dont know there are better ones10:37
ElectroMotivei just want this one to work10:38
cristian_cElectroMotive: make a test with other players10:38
ElectroMotivei dont see why this one is the default though10:38
ElectroMotivebut yeah i will test it10:39
ElectroMotiveinstalling vlc now10:39
cristian_cElectroMotive: what desktop environment?10:40
ElectroMotivei think its xfce10:41
cristian_cElectroMotive: try also gnome-mplayer10:41
cristian_cI think both use gstreamer10:41
ElectroMotivexfce V4.1210:41
cristian_cvlc uses own libraries and codecs, instead10:41
can_hey10:42
can_is there anyone here10:43
cristian_c!anyone10:43
can_hey10:43
can_wsup man10:43
cristian_c!ask10:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:43
ovrflw0xwindows 7 is bit laggy on ubuntu 16.04, how can i make it faster?10:44
ovrflw0xwindows 7 is bit laggy on ubuntu 16.04, how can i make it faster in virtualbox!10:44
ElectroMotivewell vlc works fine10:45
ikoniaovrflw0x: give it more resource10:45
ovrflw0xikonia, like what? i tried increasing video memory to 128MB disabled 2D 3D acceleration but still nothing!10:45
ovrflw0xi have 1900MB ram given to it10:45
ikoniayou need to understand why it's slow, is it visually slow, or actually slow to do something10:46
ovrflw0xboth10:46
ikoniahow do you know10:46
ikoniahow have you worked that out10:46
ovrflw0xit doesn't boot up fast and when i drag windows with mouse they lag10:47
jaamihmm, newb here, plz help, need ti install ubuntu on my system but i makes my system run too slow. what version i should install on core2due?10:47
ovrflw0xikonia, i have n3050 celeron with 4gb ram10:47
ikoniaovrflw0x: boot time is not a measurement of performance10:47
ikoniaovrflw0x: so thats going to suck10:47
ikoniathe cpu is junk10:47
ovrflw0xikonia, how can i still make it reasonably fast?10:48
ikoniabuy a machine with power10:48
mustafa_selam10:49
mustafa_hi10:49
mustafa_hiiiii10:50
mustafa_holaaa10:50
mustafa_selamm10:51
ikoniaplease stop that10:51
mustafa_whattt10:51
orooDoes ubuntu desktop distro work on ARM architecture? Or server version has to be installed? Lets say if I wanna install ubuntu on ARM tablet.10:53
ikonia!arm | ovrflw0x10:53
ubottuovrflw0x: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.10:53
ikoniaoops10:53
ikonia!arm | oroo10:53
ubottuoroo: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.10:53
kishorein my regional language, some character is missing how to solve it10:54
orooikonia, thanks....but yes or no would be a more simple answer LOL10:55
ikoniaoroo: reading the information to understand it so you don't have to ask questions like that, would be the right answer "lol"10:55
oroookzzz10:56
ElectroMotiveikonia just likes to be smug10:56
ikoniaElectroMotive: not at all10:56
YankDownUnderThere's something wrong with being smug? Wow...learn something new every day...wow...10:56
ElectroMotivewell if you call it helpful i would beg to differ10:56
ikoniaElectroMotive: giving someone the full info to help them properly is "help" and not "smug"10:57
ElectroMotiveyeah all while laughing at them10:57
ElectroMotiveway to go10:57
ikoniaElectroMotive: I'm not laughing at them at all, thats why I put it in "quotes"10:58
ikoniaas they said lol10:58
ikoniaElectroMotive: please stop trying to cause a problem because you are unable to get your problem resolved10:58
ElectroMotivemy only problem right now is you trying to tell me not to ask questions where i choose to although its possible not everyone here is also on ##linux as well10:59
thestrangerer11:00
ElectroMotivejust give it a rest11:00
ikoniaElectroMotive: errrr what ?11:00
thestrangerhi11:00
thestrangerthat was my first message in irc11:00
ikoniahello11:00
ikonia!topic | thestranger11:00
ubottuthestranger: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic11:00
Geomchill11:01
sarekunless I unmount before I restart, my HFS external becomes read only and i have to repair it on my mac, because repairing it on Ubuntu wont work. Once I repair on my Mac and plug it back into Ubuntu, all becomes well. Any way to avoid this? is this normal? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233300311:02
ikoniasarek: I spoke to you about this yesterday11:02
ikoniasarek: you're using a file system with poor write support in linux, not unmounting it before reboot is not closing the files properly so it's marked as dirty11:02
sareki think one person said 'hfs has bad xxxx'11:03
ikoniayes, I said more than that, but "yes" it has poor write support on linux11:03
sarekI didnt really count that as 'spoke to me' about it, but gotcha11:03
OerHekswriting on HFS+ .. then you got these journaling issues you don't want.11:03
ikoniaI pretty much said what I've just said11:03
sarekits not journaled but yeah i understand what ikonia is saying11:04
sarekI suppose i just have to figure out a way to stop a shutdown unless the drive is cleanly unmounted11:04
cristian_cikonia: he (oroo) seems to not be present in #ubuntu-arm11:06
cristian_cmaybe, he has solved11:06
ikoniacristian_c: I don't care11:08
YankDownUnderI've tried time and again to use HFS drives under linux - it's a futile effort...11:08
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:09
ElectroMotiveGM11:09
cristian_cElectroMotive: tried with gnome-mplayer?11:11
ElectroMotivenot yet11:13
nirjhorhi how to remove old skype ? since I have new skype4linux installed I want to remove the old package11:13
cristian_cElectroMotive: if you are satisfied with vlc, you could also let miss parole11:14
ElectroMotivewell i use vlc all the time but i really didnt have a need for it on this particular system11:15
ElectroMotivea simple player would have sufficed11:15
cristian_cElectroMotive: then, make a test with players like parole11:16
cristian_csimilar to parole11:16
cristian_cvlc is much different by that11:16
ElectroMotiveyeah i know11:16
ankitubuntu 16.04 LTS sound not working from in-built speakers, but headphones are working fine11:16
ElectroMotivedo they use parole on the standard ubuntu release or just on studio?11:17
ikoniawhat does that matter ?11:17
ikoniait's the same os11:17
ElectroMotiveikonia, i dont recall asking you11:17
ducasseElectroMotive: parole is the xfce player11:18
cristian_cElectroMotive: I believe parole is based on gstreamer11:18
ikoniait's a public channel, that whole point is that it's public, the quicker you drop the smart mouth attitude the quicker you'll get help11:18
ikoniaElectroMotive: you understand that ubuntu studio, ubuntu xubuntu and the others are the same core OS right ?11:18
ElectroMotiveyeah i did not know it was DE dependent11:18
cristian_cso, you could try other gstreamer based players, so you can know if you reproduce the issue11:19
ankitany help11:19
ikoniasaying "any help" is pointless11:19
ElectroMotiveikonia, for future reference albeit this channel is public dont think for one minute that i am ever asking for your help at all11:19
cristian_cankit: check the sound settings (either pavucontrol if you're not using unity) and make a screen of alsamixer11:20
ElectroMotiveso i get kicked for telling one person i dont want their help?11:21
cristian_cin order to know what chip you are using and what channels are present11:21
redtuxedocashis there any channel to talk about iphone issues?11:21
YankDownUnderRelax.11:21
ducasse!alis | redtuxedocash11:21
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ikoniaredtuxedocash: not here - as you've been told a few times, this channel is ubuntu, not your yellow pages of channel11:21
YankDownUnderredtuxedocash: you can try #MacOSX - there's helpful Mac-heads in there.11:21
zerox_ubuntu rocks11:23
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ankitcristian_c http://imgur.com/a/7bXlb11:23
cristian_cankit: have you also looked at sound settings / pavucontrol?11:24
ankitcristian_c yes but no luck11:25
cristian_cankit: could you post a screen?11:25
cristian_cankit: 16.04?11:26
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ducasseankit: have you tried if it works in windows?11:26
ankitducasse: i have ubuntu only :(11:26
astrillcan someone help me when i shut off my computer and hold shift my Grub menu wont open11:27
ankitcristian_c yes 16.04 LTS11:27
multifractalI took a photo of the dmesg when my laptop crashes at boot time. Can anyone think what is wrong here? https://imagebin.ca/v/2qjwhwlDN1Gq11:27
ankitcristian_c settings screen??11:27
ducasseankit: i just wondered if it might not detect that the headphone connector is unplugged.11:27
ElectroMotiveastrill, try to hold shift at boot11:27
cristian_cankit: when have you installed 16.04?11:27
cristian_cankit: sound settings screen11:27
ankitcristian_c i had upgraded to 16.0411:28
astrillElectromotive: I did that and it still wont Load up11:28
cristian_cankit: then, try into live ubuntu session11:28
ankitcristian_c: http://imgur.com/a/5JD4i11:28
cristian_cankit: using the ubuntu installation media and selecting 'try ubuntu without installing', then try the speaker while in the desktop11:29
ankitcristian_c: its not working in that case as well11:29
ankitducasse: any idea??11:30
cristian_cankit: are you using unity?11:30
ElectroMotiveastrill, are you dual booting?11:30
ankitcristian_c: i don't know actually11:30
ducasseankit: just the one i mentioned.11:31
cristian_cankit: have ypu upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, and when?11:31
astrillElectroMotive: no i turn on my computer and Hold shift and it just wont Open the Grub11:31
ankitcristian_c: yes upgraded from 15.10 to 16.0411:31
cristian_cankit: what ubuntu .iso file have you got11:31
cristian_c?11:31
ducasseastrill: try spamming shift instead of holding it. if that doesn't work try escape.11:32
theruewith dual boot, i know it's better to install windows first then linux, but say i have a dual boot set up already, if i 'upgrade' my windows.. will it screw up my grub ? in addition i remember win10 changing my system to UEFI instead of BIOS and my linux set up via BIOS/MBR, what will happen if i upgrade my win7 to win10 and it fucks up with the mbr/bios and somehow change it to uefi ? :(11:32
ankitcristian_c: i downloaded iso file from ubuntu website11:32
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cristian_cankit: as said by ducasse, check the jack sensing11:32
astrillducasse: ok ill try it the next time i black screen and turn off my computer11:32
ankitcristian_c: how to check jack sensing??11:32
cristian_cankit: if headphone diaconnection is detected by sound settings manager11:32
cristian_ceither alsamixer, top11:33
cristian_ctoo11:33
ankitcristian_c: yes sound settings detects disconnection of headphones11:33
ducasseankit: have you tried other speakers?11:33
ankitducasse: external speakers are working fine11:34
ducasseankit: but not built-in?11:34
ankitducasse: yes built-in not working :(11:34
ducasseankit: what kind of machine?11:35
cristian_cankit: I've asked what .iso file you have downloaded, not by what source you have downloaded it11:35
ankitcristian_c: ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso11:35
cristian_cankit: ok, unity11:35
ankitcristian_c: how to check unity??11:36
maarhartanyone has experience in rooting and flashing a (Lenovo) in ubuntu?11:36
ppfhi. is it possible to get the groups of a running process?11:36
cristian_cankit: you've got unity.11:36
Coolermy laptop running ubuntu 16.04.111:36
ankitducasse: hp pavillion dv411:37
cristian_cankit: you said you've upgraded from 15.10. but now you say you've downloaded 16.04 .iso11:37
ankitcristian_c: i have downloaded 16.04 iso file just to check speakers11:37
cristian_cankit: ah, ok11:37
PhoenixSTFHey guys, I have issue with L2TP over IPSEC in ubuntu 16.04, I have configured it manually but I cant get passed fase two, in 14.04 with openswan it worked, is there any way I can install openswan in 16.04?11:38
cristian_cankit: in 15.10 built.in speakers are working?11:38
ankitcristian_c: yes11:38
cristian_cstrange11:38
Coolerdoesn't show charging after i plug it in11:38
cristian_cankit: post exact model hp pavilion dv411:39
cristian_cdv4 it's too much generic11:39
ankitcristian_c: how to check exact model??11:39
ducasseankit: have you seen this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98453811:39
cristian_cankit: sudo lshw11:39
cristian_c!paste | if needed, ankit11:40
ubottuif needed, ankit: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:40
astrillducasse: i did esc and the Grub popped up but i had to press tab  to see everything11:40
ducasseastrill: what do you mean by 'see everything'?11:40
astrillit was Purple and it said press tab to see list11:41
ankitcristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22565794/11:41
astrillducasse: it was Purple and it said press tab to see list11:42
ElectroMotiveseems legit11:42
zerwasI have an Apple Magic Trackpad on 16.04 and using synclient to set an option has no effect. Any ideas on what I might be missing here?11:42
Coolercan someone help11:43
astrillCooler: what u neeed help with11:43
ElectroMotivecooler what make/model?11:43
Coolermy laptop isn't charging11:43
ankitducasse: that i tried but not working that11:44
astrillCooler: do u have it plugged in to the wall lol11:44
Coolerit charges after it goes to sleep after 5 mins11:44
Coolerand after i unlock it11:44
astrillCooler: try going in to setting and turning off sleep mode11:45
Cooleror i do a restart by booting into windows first and then restarting into ubuntu11:45
anmistocould be hardware thing?11:45
Coolerthis is the model http://www.acer.com/ac/en/IN/content/model/NX.MVMSI.03511:45
Coolerit came with win 10 x64 preinstalled11:46
Coolerand then i installed ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS11:46
ankitcristian_c: any idea11:46
ducasseankit: did you see the last post on page 5?11:47
ankitducasse: page 5??11:48
ducasseankit: yes, on the link i gave you.11:48
ankitducasse: i m checking that11:50
Dread_hi11:51
multifractalCan anyone help me with this boot crashing problem it's crazy11:51
multifractalI took a photo of the log when it's crashing: https://imagebin.ca/v/2qjwhwlDN1Gq11:52
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ankit** (gedit:4386): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: Setting attribute metadata::gedit-position not supported12:00
ankitgetting such error while using gedit from terminal12:00
ankithow to get rid of these errors??12:00
zerox_ankit use vim instead of gedit12:01
zerox_or nano12:01
ducasseankit: it's not an error, it's just a warning. does sound work now?12:02
ankitducasse: can we remove these warning?12:02
OerHeksankit, those are warnings, and are normal, when you open gedit from comandline12:02
OerHeksor any gtk program with a gui12:03
ankitOerHeks: can we remove these warning?12:03
OerHeksno12:03
ducasseankit: sure, get the developers to fix it. they don't really matter, so just ignore them.12:03
ankitducasse: i tried that solution for sound. Still sound not working.12:04
OerHeksno developer would accept it as a bug12:04
zerox_lol12:04
Madhu__Hi Ducasse: How are you?12:05
ankithow to fix sound issue??12:05
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ducassehi, Madhu__12:05
ducasseankit: if that didn't work i have no idea.12:05
ankitducasse: ok no problem. thanks for your help12:06
OerHeksankit, did you logout/login or reboot after that options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1??12:06
OerHeksor restarted alsa?12:06
ankitOerHeks: i reboot the machine12:07
Madhu__Ducasse: My friend is buying HP Server ML350p with V1 Processor and RAID 5 CONFIG.  Is it right config  our Ubuntu12:07
Madhu__Ducasse : MP350p G8 Server12:08
ikoniaright for what ?12:08
ankitOerHeks: any idea??12:08
apex_lurker112:08
Madhu__It means.  Is it good config to install Ubuntu 12,14, & 16 version inn RAID 512:10
OerHeksankit, on the last page #5 they give hp-dv5, try options snd_hda_intel model=hp-m412:11
ankitOerHeks: okay let me do that. should I reboot machine??12:11
OerHeksbut tons of posts clain options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 should work12:11
OerHeksc/claim12:11
cristian_cankit: paste into pastebin the .conf file, too12:15
cristian_c!paste12:15
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:15
ankitcristian_c: which .conf file??12:16
ankitcristian_c: can you please give me the path of .conf file??12:17
OerHeks"A guy added options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 to a new file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf to get the laptop's internal speakers to work,"  http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/sound_troubleshooting.htm#exotic_stuff_and_rumors12:17
OerHeksthere you go, full path12:18
ankitOerHeks: i can also give it a try12:18
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cristian_cankit: /etc/modprobe.d12:20
cristian_cthere is an alsa conf file12:20
ankitcristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22568659/12:21
clonehi12:25
cloneanyone?12:25
ikoniaanyone what ?12:25
ducasse!ask | clone12:25
ubottuclone: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:25
clonethanks12:26
Seveas!info pypy wily12:26
ubottupypy (source: pypy): fast alternative implementation of Python - PyPy interpreter. In component main, is extra. Version 2.6.0+dfsg-3 (wily), package size 6321 kB, installed size 34253 kB12:26
ankitcristian_c: any idea12:26
ducasseankit: i'm starting to wonder if the internal speakers are just broken...12:28
jland252007Hello all12:29
OerHeksankit, i want to see if the hp-m4 option works, you used hp-dv5 now.12:29
OerHeksif that hp-m4 does not work, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure12:29
ankitducasse: how we can check internal speakers are broken or not??12:30
ducasseankit: try what OerHeks suggests12:31
ankitducasse: ok let me change model no to hp-m412:32
allitseasyhi12:33
WindTaLkeRnapıyorsunu la12:36
phutseQ12:36
OerHekshi WindTaLkeR, english only please12:36
WindTaLkeRo yes allright12:36
phutseHow to install Android apps in Ubuntu12:37
WindTaLkeRhow are you guys12:37
cristian_c# options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 options snd-usb-audio index=-2 options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 options snd_hda_intel model=hp-dv512:37
ikoniaphutse: you don't12:37
ubuntu-mateskype for linux alpha is the new one with the new ui12:37
phutseOk12:37
cristian_cuhm, ankit out, sorry12:37
ubuntu-matebut it ain't updated12:37
phutseAny distribution for android12:37
ikoniaubuntu-mate: microsoft has pretty much killed12:37
ikoniaubuntu-mate: microsoft has pretty much killed skype on linux12:37
ikoniaphutse: "android"12:37
phutseSo none12:38
OerHekswhy would there be, phutse ?12:38
ubuntu-matetheir actually making a new update to make the ui look more like the mac and windows version12:38
ikoniaubuntu-mate: the push is on the web interface12:38
ikoniathe client is pretty much dead12:38
phutseHow can I change my nicknme12:41
ikonia /nick new_name12:41
Coolerhow do you install jdk12:41
Cooler?12:41
ikoniaopen the package manager, search for java, find the jdk you want, click install12:41
Cooleraudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jdk gave an error12:42
ikoniaCooler: https://help.ubuntu.com12:42
Coolersudo*12:42
ikoniaCooler: that will explain how to use the packge manager at a basic level12:42
CoolerErrors were encountered while processing12:42
OerHeksubuntu-mate, ms provided a web-app package https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34656/more-information-about-skype-for-linux-alpha12:42
CoolerE: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:43
ikoniaCooler: you'd just giving random error lines, thats no use12:43
Coolerikonia, try the line i typed12:44
ikoniaCooler: no12:44
Coolersudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jdk gave an error12:44
Coolersudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jdk12:44
ikoniapastebin the full error output12:44
OerHeksand on what ubuntu version ? it is available on 16.0412:46
Cooler16.04.1 LTS12:46
Coolerpastebin.com/N1kskRkj12:47
Coolerikonia, ^12:47
OerHeksoh, the IN mirror is way behind12:47
OerHeksknown issue, holliday time on the uni12:47
ikoniaCooler: so you have a file that conflicts as it's from too packages12:48
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ikoniaCooler: you've already got the jdk installed from the headless package12:48
Cooleruh12:49
ioriahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-9/+bug/157143512:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1550950 in openjdk-9 (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1571435 package openjdk-9-jdk 9~b102-1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/include/linux/jawt_md.h', which is also in package openjdk-9-jdk-headless:amd64 9~b107-0ubuntu1" [Medium,Confirmed]12:49
whoami_0001hi all computer heroe12:50
X-tonicIs btrfs a stable enough to use as a fs for `/` and everything else?12:50
Coolerikonia, pastebin.com/bb7Wkv9w12:51
ikoniaX-tonic: depends on your needs12:51
ikoniaCooler: you keep giving useless information with no context12:51
ikoniaCooler: I don't know what thats from, what you are doing or anything12:51
soLucienis there any builtin hash function in ubuntu ?12:52
Cooleri am trying to install run eclipse12:52
Coolereclipse gives that error message12:52
ikoniaCooler: so you probably have to point it at where the jvm / jdk is12:52
stokbaekHey, hope anyone can help with this bind I have caught myself in12:53
ikoniastokbaek: no idea until you tell us the problem12:53
whoami_0001what's the problem ?12:53
stokbaekI did a kernel upgrade on my system and my media shares permissions is this now: d????????? ? ? ? ?12:53
ikoniastokbaek: seems very unlikely that is anything to do with the kernel12:54
ikoniastokbaek: what version of ubuntu12:54
stokbaekif I do chmod and chown with verbose on is it showing the right permissions12:54
stokbaekits 16.0412:54
ikoniastokbaek: what kernel did you install12:54
stokbaekwent back to 4.4.0-28-generic12:55
stokbaekthink it was 32 I installed12:55
ikoniaso all standard from the ubuntu repos12:55
stokbaekyup12:55
whoami_0001user@user:~$ superuser >> sudo12:55
ikoniawhoami_0001: what ??12:55
Coolerikonia, uh theres now 2 folders12:55
whoami_0001sudo permission ?12:55
ikoniastokbaek: are the shares, shares you mount from another machine, or shares that you share from your current machine12:55
Coolerin /usr/lib/jvm/12:56
ikoniawhoami_0001: sudo permissions ? what12:56
whoami_0001ok!12:56
Coolerjava-1.9.0-openjdk-amd64 and java-9-openjdk-amd6412:56
stokbaekits a lvm raid6 on the saver that is doing smb share to other machines12:56
stokbaekserver *12:56
ikoniastokbaek: ok, so you're sharing them out, not mounting them remote12:56
Coolerwhich one do i set with export JAVA_HOME=12:56
ikoniastokbaek: what is the path to one of these shares12:56
ikoniaCooler: if you can't work out what JAVA_HOME for your IDE is, you won't be able to use the IDE, so I suggest you start reading the basics12:57
X-tonicikonia, I wanted a relative stable system for personal usage. However, in my previous attempts when I tried to install `/` in btrfs, it led to basic booting problems. I was wondering if those are now a thing of the past.12:57
ikoniaX-tonic: why do you want btrfs12:57
ikoniaX-tonic: you don't seem to be following it in terms of it's use/stability, so why do you even want it12:57
stokbaekwhat do you mean with path. The folder is physical on the server, others connect to it via smb12:58
ikoniastokbaek: ok, what is the path of one of the shares on the server file system12:58
stokbaekikonia, /var/media is where the share lies12:59
Coolerikonia, i was following the steps here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14788345/how-to-install-jdk-on-ubuntu-linux12:59
ikoniastokbaek: ok, so can you pastebin the output of "ls -la /var/media" please12:59
ikoniaCooler: so ?12:59
Coolerwhich version do i set?12:59
Coolerjava-1.9.0-openjdk-amd64 or java-9-openjdk-amd6412:59
Coolerboth folders are in /usr/lib/jvm12:59
ikoniaCooler: I told you, if you don't now what java_home to set - you won't be able to use the IDE, so start reading the basics of setting up eclipse and the basis of using java12:59
stokbaekikonia, http://pastebin.com/AuXPzN9H13:00
ikoniaCooler: if I have to tell you how and what to set java_home, you are not at a level where you can use the IDE13:00
Coolerwhat?13:00
X-tonicikonia, I followed some benchmarks which suggested btrfs to be better than ext4, and the future, and I see a lot of it's mention in kernel changelogs. That interests me to try it on my system.13:00
Cooleri thought the latest jdk was 813:00
Coolerbut linux apparently has jdk 913:00
ikoniaX-tonic: you won't see visual performance improvements as a home user13:00
ikoniaX-tonic: just use ext413:01
Coolerand i am not sure what 1.9.0 is13:01
ikoniaCooler: then don't use it13:01
ikoniastokbaek: ok, so can you do "sudo ls -la /var/media" please and put it in a pastebin13:01
Cooleralso is the jdk se only or does it include java ee apis?13:02
ikoniadepends on the package13:02
stokbaekikonia, http://pastebin.com/vkcFc5sf13:02
ikoniastokbaek: ok - so that looks fine, it looks like you're using access lists that are blocking non-root users from being able to se the permissions13:03
ikoniastokbaek: see the + sign "drwxr--r--+" on your /var/media dir, you've put an access list on it13:04
stokbaekikonia, hmm wierd, dont think I ever played around with acl13:04
ikoniastokbaek: someone has somewhere13:04
Coolerikonia, the tje openjdk 9 is the version that gave that error though13:04
stokbaekikonia, so I just have to remove the acl then?13:04
ikoniaCooler: ok ?13:04
Coolerwhen i tried to sudo apt-get install13:04
ikoniaCooler: yes, and I told you why13:05
Coolerso should i use 1.9.0 instead13:05
ikoniastokbaek: I'd first view the access list, see what's set, but yes, you'll probably end up removing it as you won't need it13:05
stokbaekikonia, hmm acl package isn't even installed on the system13:07
ikoniathere is an acl there13:07
stokbaekoh found it13:07
Coolerso should i use 1.9.0 instead?13:09
ikoniait's up to you13:10
Coolerpastebin.com./kxaia9hr13:15
Coolerpastebin.com/kxaia9hr13:16
Coolereclipse is giving that error after i set the JAVA_HOME and PATH to openjdk-9-jdk13:16
Coolerand also after i set it to 1.9.013:17
Madhu__Hi Adroit13:23
adroit_machinehello Madhu__13:24
Madhu__Please give me which one will support for  ubuntu in ML350p G8 server13:25
ikoniawhich one of what ?13:25
ducasseMadhu__: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14183/13:28
stokbaekikonia, I removed the acl on the folders now, but still cant see them without sudo. Does it require a reboot?13:28
OerHeksHP provides a driver for the gen 8 platform, trusty as latest https://launchpad.net/~hp-iss-team/+archive/ubuntu/hp-storage and https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/ubuntu-hpdsa/13:35
OerHeksso i guess 14.04 Madhu__13:35
Madhu__Ducasse : In the url showing e5-v2 server but ml350p g8 is e5-v1 server.13:39
OerHeksmaybe that v1 is not certified, and the drivers won't work: then AHCI and softraid is your option13:40
TachikomasHi. I run somes troubles with networking after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.1 on ubuntu server x64. The system boot, but dont want to use network. I have the following error message :13:46
Tachikomas[FAILED] Failed to start Raise network interfaces.13:46
TachikomasAny idea ?13:46
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stokbaekikonia, thanks for the help. All is working again :)14:03
Gorulay Know this is not an ubuntu issue, but having several restarts and if i wait 30 minutes I get the system starting. What to do? Would appreciate some advice.14:03
bhaveshI got these errors on doing sudo apt-get update and upgrade: http://pastebin.com/NPGbyKFr14:05
bhaveshhow do I solve?14:05
OerHeksbhavesh, try to remove the lists and load them again:  sudo rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update14:07
skinuxI'm trying to remember the name of the best music making software...?14:07
skinuxIs it LMMS?14:08
nooooooobhi14:08
OerHeksskinux, there is no single best, check out the packages of ubuntu-studio14:08
skinuxYeah..that was it14:08
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skinuxThe thing about LMMS, I've only been able to find the drum (beat) instrument and the piano.14:09
skinuxI'm looking to make hip-hop and rock type music. I need guitar and some other sounds.14:10
amschelHI¡14:11
nooooooobhi guys nmap is not working in new ubantu this is error any soulotion route_dst_netlink: cannot bind AF_NETLINK socket: Invalid argument14:12
ikoniaanother kid trying to nmap his school or something...14:12
ikoniastokbaek: glad you're working14:12
nooooooobnop my iwn network14:12
traubisoda_hi everyone14:12
nooooooobown14:12
bhaveshOerHeks: I tried that, workes, thanks.14:13
OerHeksbhavesh, have fun14:13
traubisoda_if I use "route add ..." command, how can I make the result persistent, so it won't change after I reboot?14:13
bhaveshworks*14:13
lordcirthnooooooob, you're not on Ubuntu On Windows, are you?  That's a current bug there.14:14
nooooooobyes i am :D14:14
nooooooobon windows 1014:14
GorulayMy computer keeps restarting, have tried Ubuntu and Windows and no solve. If I wait 40 min I get the computer going, how to solve?14:14
lordcirthnooooooob, not supported here.  However, it's a known bug and it's being worked on.14:14
traubisoda_Gorgulay maybe it's overheating?14:15
nooooooobthank you @lordcirth14:15
lordcirthGorulay, instant reboot with no warning?  Sounds like power supply.14:15
lordcirthinstant shutdown would be overheat, normally, but check both14:15
lordcirth#hardware may help14:15
Gorulaylordcirth, I have a 1 year old computer, Acer Aspire Nitro V 17. I mean, something to clean in the computer, dust?14:16
nooooooob@lordcirth will aircrack-ng work ?14:16
OerHeksnooooooob, this is not windows support.14:16
Guest85172ciao14:16
ikoniayeah, aricrack-ng is wht you need to scan your home network....honestly.14:16
Guest85172\list14:17
nooooooobwhat is wrong with you @ikonia14:17
nooooooobit is just a tool14:17
Guest85172!list14:17
ubottuGuest85172: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:17
__ravenhi14:19
Animuhey guys, i have a little problem with running my script, it does execute without superuser permissions, but when i try to use it with su it seems to can't find the script, any clue what could cause that ?14:19
ikoniayou don't use su14:20
Animubut in this script i check if user has su permissions, and if yes then show some info, how to use it then ?14:22
lordcirthAnimu, are you calling the script locally or from PATH?14:22
lordcirthAnimu, sudo14:22
Animufrom path, but i loaded it correctly as im able to call it without superuser14:22
lordcirthAnimu, but is it in root's path?14:22
__raveni want to connect to a bluetooth audio device (BCM2046B1) with ubuntu 16.04 but i am not able to make it work: "blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available..." http://pastebin.com/QXU1rV4a any ideas to solve that?14:23
SchrodingersScatwhat are the script permissions?14:23
Animuyeah i meant with using sudo it doesnt work14:23
lordcirthAnimu, You probably didn't put it in root's path.14:23
Animuroot have different PATH than the one in .profile ?14:23
ikoniawhere is the file14:24
AnimuSchrodingersScat if you mean if it's executable then yeah14:24
lordcirthAnimu, every user has a PATH, that's why it's set in your user directory.14:24
Gorulaylordcirth, Have any suggestion where I start? I see nothing on my screen on startup, just the keyboard lighting on and off like it restarts.14:24
Animuhome/<username>/bin   so i assumed that it would be okay if i try to run it with sudo on that profile14:24
SchrodingersScatAnimu: no, that's specific to <username>14:25
lordcirthGorulay, #hardware14:25
Gorulaylordcirth, thanks, will go there.14:25
Animuso when I use sudo even on a specific profile then im really using root profile ?14:25
ikoniano14:26
ikoniayou are using an elevated privilege14:26
Animubut even then i still should be able to use the su privilege with sudo, right ? to check i use simple [ "$(id -u)" = "0" ]14:30
Animuhere is full script: http://pastebin.com/nuKfnYBn14:31
Gourlaylordcirth, I get this message when attempting to write at #hardware: ##hardware :Cannot send to channel.14:31
rypervencheAnimu: How many users do you have on your machine?14:32
Animuonly me, system fresh after reinstalling14:32
rypervencheAnimu: Then change the script and remove the "su" part.14:33
rypervencheAnimu: No need for su in the script.14:33
rypervencheAnimu: And no need for sudo.14:33
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Animurypervenche: i'm just following tutorial which says that home_space function needs superuser to examine the size of each user's home directory14:37
rypervencheAnimu: It does not. That is only needed if you need to see all users' home directories, and even then that is not likely.14:38
OerHeksGourlay, read the whole message, maybe you need to register with #freenode?14:38
OerHeks!register14:38
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Gourlay!register14:39
OerHeksno no, you can read it already14:39
SchrodingersScatrypervenche: would miss a couple directories you normally don't have permissions for with other users, .cache i think for example.14:41
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Animurypervenche: yeah that was the case to look up all users (omitting that currently i'm the only one) and it in fact really doesn't need superuser, but that doesn't explain why on sudo it can't find my scripts ?14:42
ikoniaAnimu: show me EXACTLY how you call your script14:43
Animusudo sysinfo_page > sysinfo_page.html14:44
ikoniaAnimu: from what directory ?14:44
Animuikonia: Desktop currently, but without sudo it works fine14:44
ikoniaAnimu: what is the location of the script14:45
SchrodingersScatAnimu: thought we solved this, you have it in your ~/bin14:45
rypervencheSchrodingersScat: But he only has one user, so it's all good. And ~/.cache is 775 for me. The only files he would miss on other users would probably be ~/.ssh and the like. Not likely to change a lot in terms of used space.14:45
Animuikonia: location is /home/<username>/bin14:45
ikoniaAnimu: so apply some logic14:46
ikoniaAnimu: it's in your home directory - it's not in roots path14:46
ikoniasudo /home/<username>/bin/script_name14:46
SchrodingersScatrypervenche: on my system makes the difference of 64K without sudo, 376K with sudo, huuuge difference.14:46
akikrypervenche: you can't expect all user dirs to be open for everyone14:47
rypervencheSchrodingersScat: But you're still talking about more than one user. We are not.14:47
SchrodingersScatrypervenche: afaik this is homework, so probably better to fit to the question ;(14:47
rypervencheakik: This is a script that he is trying to run for his user only. No need for root in his script. But, that's enough talk about this.14:49
Animuikonia: ohh i think i get it now then, thanks for help :) and sorry for causing problems14:49
Animuthank you all guys for your help and time :)14:49
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irshadhi14:53
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ubuntu__I have registered on freenode but how do I get it to recognize me? Want to connect to #hardware, but what settings to connect? Using HexChat.14:56
etronikHi all, by ubuntu 14.04 (LTS) hit a spot of bother and I need your help to restore it to working order, it reaches the login screen, I authenticate correctly, it briefly flickers something, then gets me back at the login prompt - I went to a text based console, now what? TIA14:57
OerHeksubuntu__, ask for help in #freenode.14:57
etronikThis problem started suddendly after a perfectly working system... the only seetings related change was something about the Secure Boot vs UEFI boot14:58
OerHeksetronik, check out this page for possible solutions, http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop14:58
OerHeksoh, that is a totally different problem ..14:59
etronikOerHeks: tks, checking it out14:59
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mikatoneHi after install bind my resolv.conf says DO NOT EDIT... where shoul I place domain name and search parameters ?15:26
mikatone*should15:26
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etronikwhere does one tur OFF secure boot ?15:28
eversonHi all. I have a web cam - lsusb returns "Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Vista IM" - which I am trying to install on 14.04 - it doesn't work plug-and-play. Any help would be appreciated. Busy googling to see what I can find. I am a novice at Ubuntu15:28
etronikwhere does one turn OFF secure boot ?15:28
everson(I tried running cheese to see if it works out the box, it doesn't unfortunately)15:28
reloafaahi15:30
reloafaahow do i load preload into the system again? to speed up ubuntu?15:30
reloafaasysctl.conf?15:31
waddupglitchmobHi people, when I login sometimes the dash and menubar get all glitched up like this: https://img42.com/ihyP2+  If I click anything in the glitched area it suddenly looks normal. How can I troubleshoot this?15:36
waddupglitchmobWow I just noticed that the icons you see are from the previous logged in user.15:36
waddupglitchmobSo it seems to hang in the previous session or something...15:37
Guest73655which graphics card?15:37
vladimiryou can change user in the top right corner15:37
reloafaawaddupglitchmob: is nvidia your graphics card??15:38
waddupglitchmobGuest73655: reloafaa: I'm using the Nvidia GTX 750Ti15:39
waddupglitchmob*GeForce15:39
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jattwhich driver?15:40
waddupglitchmobjatt: the 'NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361'15:41
bmintzyo! i turned on fcitx after installing Chinese (Simplified) but when i type the only characters entered are the first in the list and I can't see the input box that lets me select a character to input15:45
bmintzwat do15:45
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bmintzwow so many part messages15:52
waddupglitchmobyeah15:52
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waddupglitchmobjatt: so any ideas?15:53
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bmintzidk i'm wondering as wekk15:53
bmintz*well lol15:53
dyc3hey guys15:55
dyc3im on Ubuntu 16.04, and im trying to build i3lock-color ( https://github.com/Arcaena/i3lock-color ) but it fails with http://pastebin.com/XhAkvmaQ I have installed the dependencies listed on the github page, however i noticed that i installed a "xkbcommon0" instead of "xkbcommon". any suggestions?15:56
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: What is the issue again ? ( just re-joined) . Considered : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/105343/en-us ?15:57
ducassedyc3: you most likely need libxkbcommon-dev15:58
waddupglitchmobBashing-om:  when I login sometimes the dash and menubar get all glitched up like this: https://img42.com/ihyP2+  If I click anything in the glitched area it suddenly looks normal. How can I troubleshoot this?15:58
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: I'm using one of the latest Nvidia binary drivers15:59
bmintzso any ideas for this fcitx issue?15:59
Sutliff707I am having trouble getting smartmontools to send me email reports after completing tests, Anyone willing to help15:59
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: The nvidia driver loaded ? what returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? of interest is the configuration line .16:00
dyc3ducasse, thanks, that worked16:01
OerHeksbmintz, maybe the ubuntu-cn channel is more of a help16:01
bmintzok thanks :)16:01
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: idk what to look for but this is the output: http://pastebin.com/r2fG9utu16:04
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: " configuration: driver=nvidia  " so the driver did load .. next qustion to answer is did it build properly .. we can look at the log file to see: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .16:07
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: alright: http://pastebin.com/raw/18WHjBJ916:09
waddupglitchmobthanks for helping me with troubleshooting :)  I wouldn't come up with all these things myself16:09
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: reading. I will be awhile .16:09
tachyonshttps://paste.gnome.org/plptyztk716:13
tachyonsany fix for this ?16:13
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: What is up with the boot parameter " iommu=soft "  ? Why do you think you need it ?16:13
tachyonsXmbTextListToTextProperty result code -216:13
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: I did need to add it otherwise my PC wouldn't boot16:13
OerHekstachyons, what were you trying to do? you didn't copy the comand16:14
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: correction, it did boot up with a lot of error messages16:14
OerHekssuch gtk errors are usually normal, if you start a gui program from terminal16:14
Sutliff707I am not getting smartmontools email reports, my email server is setup correctly. can someone help?16:15
tachyonsOerHeks:  Oops , Sorry . I thought this is ubuntu snappy channel . Question was about snappy packaging issue16:15
OerHeks:-)16:15
OerHeksSutliff707, if you don't find an answer here, there is also #ubuntu-server16:17
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rglI'm having trouble trying to match a dhcpd host by UUID. I though it was enough to do option dhcp-client-identifier 00:00:00:00:00:00:40:00:80:00:00:00:00:00:00:02; ... but NO! I've also tried https://gist.github.com/rgl/35d682d97f9a1124e8755714d1c630af but none works... can you help?16:21
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: While I am dithering .. I would also like to see the display log . ' cat .xsession-errors ' to a pastebin, please .16:23
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: alright, it's very short: http://pastebin.com/raw/TYt5RDSs16:26
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: there is a file with almost the same name '.xsession-errors.old': http://pastebin.com/raw/UPwLSLQW16:27
OerHekswhat nvidiadriver did you load for that ti750, waddupglitchmob16:28
waddupglitchmobOerHeks: using the 'NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361'16:29
waddupglitchmobI'm on Ubuntu 16.04 btw.16:30
OerHeksoke, that driver should work.16:30
* Seriusam ho16:31
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Well .. the .xsessions log / not so good huh > .. Do you have authorization from the display manager ? ' cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log '16:31
waddupglitchmobIf I were to try and describe the problem: it seems like right after logging in the dash and top bar are not being rendered and/or using an old frame as you can see the apps from the previously logged in user. When I click something in the bar and I think thus trigger a 'refresh' it suddenly looks normal.16:31
mariooliveiraHi.chrome from time  to time stalls my old laptop. i belive its memory overload. my laptop has 1g ram. whats the best way to limit memory  and cpu usage?16:31
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: what do you mean with 'not so good'? Also I need to use sudo to do the last command.16:32
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waddupglitchmobBashing-om: here is the output though: http://pastebin.com/raw/6fcffRuT16:34
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: the ":0" is your display .16:34
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: oh I need to eat in 5 minutes :|16:35
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: K, on eating .. we still be here .. Is this a valid user " username 'selwyn' " on your system ? as we have " DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication " !16:37
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: alright great! :) That is a valid user indeed16:38
waddupglitchmobMaybe I mistyped my password once?16:38
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Do not know, yet .. still reading, look'n and thin'n .16:39
dupondjehttps://dl.ubnt.com/guides/edgemax/EdgeSwitch_ES-48_QSG.pdf crashes in evince for others also? :)16:48
dupondjepage 7-8 for example16:49
squintydupondje,  crashes here too.  foxit (linux version) has no problems reading that particular pdf16:55
dupondjeok :) thx16:55
kevankI have an ubuntu 16.04 server running both KVM domains and LXC containers.  I'm having strange issues with network connectivity "hanging" on the domains and containers.  The bridge is routed...  the hosting company is forwarding the /27 to the host servers IP and routing is enabled.  There is no firewall defined on the host.16:56
kevankI'm looking for some suggestions on where to look.16:56
rajatis anyone able to access outlook.com from firefox??16:59
squintyrajat,  no problem bringing up the logon page here, fwiw17:00
Amaraany news about when 14.04 will get linux 4.4, wiki say it should have happened on 1 august.17:00
bmintzrecommended media manager app with search?17:03
bmintz*online search17:04
fsocietyhello17:16
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bmintzfsociety nice name17:16
Guest20471thanks17:17
Guest20471where do you come from?17:17
Seriusamlol17:17
SeriusamI just watched Mr.Robot and saw this17:17
SeriusamYou pulled my attention sir, congz17:17
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fsocietylol17:18
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bmintzstop that17:18
Guest24271i inspired by thats movie17:18
bmintz./nick samsepi0ol17:18
bmintz./nick samsepi0l17:18
bmintznot a movie?17:18
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bmintzno fsociety is better17:19
bmintzwhy add 40417:20
bmintzis fsociety taken?17:20
fsociety404i guest..17:20
fsociety404okey i'll tried17:20
fsociety404"fsociety" already taken..17:21
ubuntu-matehello17:30
ubuntu-mateanyone17:30
ubuntu-matethere17:30
squinty!ask17:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:31
reevv!patience17:32
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:32
G66Khello everyone17:32
ubuntu-matei am little bit confused in ubuntu mate and xfce. any one recommend me with specific reason17:33
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G66Kim having a little problem here, when i copy file to /var/www/html its take the root:root permission how to prevent that and keep file with the www-data:www-data permission17:33
ubuntu-mate@g66k change permission of html dir or make a link in your home directory17:34
G66Kubuntu-mate: should i change that everytime i copy file or dir ?17:35
G66Ki need a fix way to solve this17:35
ubuntu-mateso make link of folder ..its better.17:35
ubuntu-mateare you using apache server17:36
G66Kubuntu-mate: yes17:36
ubuntu-matedonot install...download whole server and extract in home directory17:36
eduardastest17:36
ubuntu-mateand run server by command or make path of it in bin17:36
Bashing-om!test | eduardas17:37
ubottueduardas: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...17:37
WindTaLkeRis there anybody ?17:39
WindTaLkeRi want to ask a question about ubuntu17:39
ubuntu-mateyes17:39
Bashing-om!ask | WindTaLkeR17:40
ubottuWindTaLkeR: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:40
OerHeksG66K, normally one would add the user to the www-data group, to copy files and acess without hassle17:40
srk_help! my ctrl button suddenly stops working when i restart my pc it starts work normally ( OS : ubuntu 16.04 lts)17:40
OneM_IndustriesHow do I search for a document that was created/modified on a certain date?17:40
OneM_IndustriesI do not know what it is named, nor do I know where it is located, but I do know when it was created, so if I can search for a document by that, that would be great.17:41
WindTaLkeRi writing to terminal iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor then the terminal says me a error17:42
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: hey I'm back =)17:43
WindTaLkeRError for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :17:43
WindTaLkeR    SET failed on device wlp7s0 ; Operation not supported.17:43
WindTaLkeR how can i fix it17:43
WindTaLkeRanybody can help me about issue17:44
OerHeksseems like your wifi is not Wlan0 but wlp7s0, this is the new 'predictable interface naming'17:45
srk_help! my ctrl button suddenly stops working when i restart my pc it starts work normally ( OS : ubuntu 16.04 lts)17:45
bmintzonem_industries you may have luck with the find command and -newerBt <see -d option of gnu date>17:45
OerHeksand monitor mode, that depends on the device and driver...17:46
bmintz!patience | srk_17:46
ubottusrk_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:46
idokoOneM_Industries: how about using find with the -mtime flag?17:46
bmintzi think they want to search by creation time17:46
kevankI thought my issue with the network was lxc and/or kvm but it looks like routing in general.  I have a public ethernet interface with a subnet statically routed to the public ip.   A dummy interface on the server with an IP from the subnet on it.  Routing is enabled for ipv4.  I can ssh into the public address and the subnet address remotely but performance on the subnet addess (routed) is really poor and on the public address it is as expected.17:46
kevank The firewall is disabled....  any suggestions?17:46
OerHeks idoko +1 -mtime or -ctime17:46
docmurI made some LXC containers on Ubuntu 16.04 and then moved them to a Ubuntu 14.04 box, when I try to start them I get: http://pastie.org/1093248317:46
OneM_IndustriesYep, trying that now, thank you.17:46
kevankThis is on 16.0417:47
WindTaLkeRmy wifi is wlp7s0 . yes it's right but i cant fix it i did everything seriously . is it a device problem ?17:47
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Not much smarter now than when you went to eat . Is this a lap top ? And have you looked in bios at the IOMMU options ?17:49
OerHeksWindTaLkeR, device OR driver problem. i think the #kali channels are up2date with such list.17:49
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: hmm no it's not a laptop. And the IOMMU settings aren't related I think. I only put it on soft so it doesn't spew 100 lines of errors about AMD-Vi when I boot, and I'm using an AMD processor17:50
eduardasSorry, it's test17:50
OerHekspm17:51
OerHeks!pm | WindTaLkeR17:51
ubottuWindTaLkeR: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.17:52
WindTaLkeRi can ask now17:52
WindTaLkeRright?17:52
bmintzi think if it's been half an hour plus and your question has been scrolled into oblivion by others chatting, then yes it's appropriate17:54
bmintzbut if there's enough scrollback that we can all se your question in the first place, keep waiting17:54
bmintzthis isn't customer service, nobody has an obligation to help17:54
bmintzif they do it's because they feel like it17:54
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: alright so the IOMMU option is turned on in the BIOS17:55
bmintzwindtalker what command led that error to occur?17:55
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: K ^^ .. and in " Additional Software " is AMD firmware " ; is the patch installed ? ' dpkg -l linux-firmware ' .18:00
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: err I don't really understand the out put of that one: http://pastebin.com/raw/5D8VmTGp18:02
Bashing-om!info linux-firmware18:03
ubottulinux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.157.2 (xenial), package size 31815 kB, installed size 120911 kB18:03
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: in the additional drivers window I have this: https://img42.com/THqae+18:03
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Well, you have the patch .. so much for that idea too .18:04
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: but can the processor be responsible for graphical glitches?18:05
waddupglitchmobI thought it's always the GPU18:05
lyzeHey guys, friend of mine wants to get rid of ubuntu and asked me to do it. Now I don't want to just delete the partition since grub is installed on the linux partition. I've tried to recover the windows bootloader but according to the windows install disc it operates properly but it wont get detected by the uefi. (windows 10) Now should I install grub to a seperate partition or what exactly should I do?18:08
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Somewhat grasping at straws .. as I can not explain " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 " . Maybe change the driver ? what retuns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' . As I expect the system to like 364 version drivr better .18:08
lyzeThe bootinfoscript file creates this result.txt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22601084/18:09
waddupglitchmobamd64-microcode nvidia-361 nvidia-34018:09
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Huh ?? This is a 16.04 install right ? ..18:10
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: yes18:10
Bashing-om!info nvidia36418:11
ubottuPackage nvidia364 does not exist in xenial18:11
Bashing-om!info nvidia-36418:11
ubottuPackage nvidia-364 does not exist in xenial18:11
Bashing-om!info nvidia-36118:11
ubottunvidia-361 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-361): NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42. In component restricted, is optional. Version 361.42-0ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 37848 kB, installed size 163365 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)18:11
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: I guess my bad in think'n 364 is in the repo .18:12
waddupglitchmobWhy?18:12
waddupglitchmobShouldn't it be?18:12
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: I also read through the changes nvidia made between version 361 and the lastest but that's mostly things about Vulkan and setups with other hardware than mine.18:13
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Apparently not supposed to be .. We do have a trusted PPA for later versioned drivers .18:13
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: so how is it possible I'm using that one then?18:14
waddupglitchmobI didn't download anything18:14
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Well > I am a believer that Nvidia knows their hardware best .. and for that 750ti they remommend the 367 version driver ..18:15
Bashing-omIF we were to go with the 367 version driver .. we would have to activate the PPA source .18:16
waddupglitchmob!info nvidia-36718:16
ubottuPackage nvidia-367 does not exist in xenial18:16
waddupglitchmobHmmm, should I try that one out that? What PPA should I add?18:17
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/105343/en-us .. for the PPA see: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .18:17
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: what about this: "We currently recommend: `nvidia-361`, Nvidia's current long lived branch."18:19
waddupglitchmob?18:19
virtuosojCan you run Unity 8 off of a 16.10 live USB?18:19
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: As OerHeks remarked .. should work .. but .. there are problems .. maybe changing the driver will fix and or give us a hint what is wrong ??18:20
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: so if I use the PPA to install it I don't need to download it from nvidia's website right?18:21
waddupglitchmobIt's going to be hard to test, but I will try. It happens around 1/4 logins.18:21
OerHekswaddupglitchmob, such artifacts that resets itself when pressing mouse, i have seen this once, with ati, the solution was to reset the monitor itself, to vendor defaults with its own menu buttons18:21
waddupglitchmobOerHeks: that's interesting but if it were the monitor (I dual boot) wouldn't the 14.04 have the same problem?18:23
ioriawaddupglitchmob, had the same problem with nouveau ?18:23
waddupglitchmobioria: hmm good question I can't remember (I have this issue for some weeks now).18:24
ioriawaddupglitchmob, 750ti is Maxwell, iirc18:25
waddupglitchmobBut I'd rather not use nouveau since the performance is worse right?18:25
waddupglitchmobMy brother plays games on this system18:25
OerHeksit should yes, if not then there is a driver/kernel change.18:25
OerHekstry the driver ppa as Bashing-om suggest, add it, and run the driver tool again18:26
ioriawaddupglitchmob, it's said maxwell chipset requires to blacklist nouveau, but sure i don't have that card18:26
waddupglitchmobOerHeks: what do you mean with "run the driver tool again"?18:26
OerHeksthe driver menu you used to install your current nvidia?18:26
OerHekstype driver in dash18:27
waddupglitchmobah okay18:27
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo aot update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 ; sudo reboot ' will do it in terminal .18:28
waddupglitchmobI just added the PPA and ran 'apt update', now 'apt list --upgradable' also lists 'nvidia-361' as upgradable18:28
lyzeTrying to remove ubuntu and revert back to the windows bootloader. "sudo efibootmgr" only lists "ubuntu" and the "bootinfoscript" result is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22601084/   ...   how can I safely remove the linux partitions so that I can still boot into win 10?18:29
waddupglitchmobThanks, I'll reboot then cya all in 5-10 minutes (trying to get the screen to glitch will take some time ;P18:30
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Nothing wrong with trying to upgrade 361 and see what results .. we can  alsways purge what is and do " something else" .18:30
avionichello18:32
avionicmy Ubuntu Software center just has a wheel spinning... wont load anything18:32
avionicNevermind I kill -9 the pid and it works fine after reloading18:33
Bashing-omavionic: Internet connectivity ? what results with terminal command ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?18:34
avionicBashing it's not internet...i'm chatting to you on the same box18:35
OerHeks!info ddate18:38
ubottuddate (source: ddate): convert Gregorian dates to Discordian dates. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (xenial), package size 10 kB, installed size 59 kB18:38
waddupglitchmobAlright I'm back, the bad news: it still glitches, the good news: the 'glitches' now look like some kind of art18:39
waddupglitchmobhttps://img42.com/W6ETw+18:39
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: OerHeks Reset unity to default ?18:40
waddupglitchmoboh could it be the theme that's messing it up?18:41
waddupglitchmobI'm using Numix18:41
OerHekstheme, sure18:41
waddupglitchmobBashing-om: with this? `unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity`18:42
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: +1 on the theme as a probable source of the fault .18:42
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob: Out of my experience with Numix .18:43
ioriawaddupglitchmob,  Guest Account ?18:43
waddupglitchmobbrb. logging in and out18:44
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: OerHeks: just tried switching to my account and the guest account but even on the guest account I got the glitches :|18:48
OerHekswaddupglitchmob, seems like your issue too https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=214625 even though it is mint18:48
OerHeksso i guess it is the numix theme itself18:49
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: Well that do indicate it glitch is system wide, rather rhen a user config issue .18:49
waddupglitchmob_OerHeks: but since the guest account doesn't use that theme how is that possible? Does it 'leak' because I'm using it on the account I'm switching from?18:51
OerHekstime to file a bugreport18:53
OerHeksbut against what package, nvidia, kernel ...18:54
waddupglitchmob_OerHeks: I have absolutely no clue18:55
waddupglitchmob_I tried reporting a bug once for Ubuntu like three years ago and had to create an account on launchpad?18:55
waddupglitchmob_But I couldn't figure out how to use that website ;P18:55
OerHekseasy, ubuntu-bug <package>18:56
OerHeks!bug18:56
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:56
waddupglitchmob_TIL18:56
waddupglitchmob_but then again, what package?18:56
waddupglitchmob_I mean the issue is way to vague atm. right?18:57
OerHeksYeah, i was thinking out loud too, nvidia, kernel ..18:57
OerHeksnumix should be mentioned too18:57
waddupglitchmob_yeah I guess18:58
waddupglitchmob_if it could 'leak', lack for a better term, that would be a bug itself18:58
OerHeksBashing-om ??18:58
Bashing-omOerHeks: Well ,, that gets the big boys involved .. I have no better alternative .18:59
OerHekswell, ou tested it against 14.04 and guest account18:59
OerHeksc/ou/you18:59
OerHeksi would go for nvidia19:00
__raveni want to connect to a bluetooth audio device (BCM2046B1) with ubuntu 16.04 but i am not able to make it work: "blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available..." http://pastebin.com/QXU1rV4a any ideas to solve that?19:00
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: I do have another outside thought .. as the boot parameter was needed in 14.04 ..is it still required in 16.04 ? Have you tried to boot 16.04 without it ?19:01
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: oh no it's the other way around.19:01
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: Surprising .. 16.04 is to be smarter than 14.04 .19:02
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: caught me by suprise too, I've had zero problems with 14.04 but 16.04 messed it up19:02
waddupglitchmob_I guess it's really hard to move forward without causing regression when it comes to handling hardware19:03
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: Your AMD board ,, greater tham A9 ? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#Desktop_2 .19:06
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: OerHeks: getting really tired, shall I just report to nvidia then? How would I describe the issue, what should I mention? Also the command would be 'ubuntu-bug nvidia'?19:06
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: do you mean the motherboard?19:07
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: Yeah, the motherboard in particular .19:08
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: I have the 970A-UD3P19:09
waddupglitchmob_The version without the 'P' is in the list19:10
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: Yep. Pretty decent board there . Should have no problems .. but !19:13
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: you're leaving me in suspense now ;D19:16
ioriawaddupglitchmob, i'd try 3 things:  nouveau (to be sure the culprit is nvidia and not the new 16.04 xorg) , or disable  secure boot , or blacklist nouveau19:16
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Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: ^^ we are not going to leave you .. Just that this is above my range and pay grade .19:18
waddupglitchmob_Bashing-om: hehe alright19:20
waddupglitchmob_ioria: blacklisting nouveau seems like a pretty drastic step19:20
ioriawaddupglitchmob,  well, you don't use it :þ19:21
ioriawaddupglitchmob,  never occurred to me your issue... if it were on console, i'd say that's a memory corruption ... do you have, by any chance, another kernel to boot ?19:22
waddupglitchmob_ioria: well I also have 14.04 installed, which is working fine19:23
bmintzjust crickets on the #ubuntu-cn19:23
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bmintzit's been a  few hours and there's not many peeps on19:23
ioriawaddupglitchmob, on 16.04 you have only 4.4.0.31 ?19:23
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: A quick way to check blacklist: ' sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* ' .19:25
waddupglitchmob_nvidia-367_hybrid.conf:blacklist nouveau nvidia-367_hybrid.conf:blacklist lbm-nouveau nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf:blacklist nouveau nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf:blacklist lbm-nouveau19:27
ioriawaddupglitchmob, you installed 367 ?19:28
waddupglitchmob_ioria: yes19:29
waddupglitchmob_from the graphics-drivers ppa19:29
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: ioria ^ Do not see nouveau as a possible conflict here .19:29
Bashing-omioria: ^ the 367 install at my instigation . was 361 with problem .19:30
ioriaBashing-om, i see19:30
ioriaBashing-om,  well, it's the latest i think , suggested by the nvidia itself19:31
OerHeksblacklisting nouveau could do no harm, i guess19:31
iorialotuspsychje, lotusssssssssssssss19:32
lotuspsychjehey ioria :p19:32
iorialotuspsychje, well come back19:32
lotuspsychjeioria: ive been there in discuss a few19:33
iorialotuspsychje, i see ^_^19:33
waddupglitchmob_Getting really late here, need sleep. I want to thank each one of you: Bashing-om, OerHeks & ioria. Tomorrow I will try nouveau (if that fixes it report `ubuntu-bug nvidia`), try to blacklist nouveau.19:33
waddupglitchmob_I can't thank you all enough, especially Bashing-om with all your patience.19:34
Bashing-omwaddupglitchmob_: NP .. we do this because we want to .. add our bit to our community .19:34
ioriawaddupglitchmob,  ok, we'll wait for you you19:35
waddupglitchmob_I love communities like these19:35
ioriawaddupglitchmob,  another try, would be boot a livecd19:35
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mikekCan anyone help me with ubuntu networking problem. I am having high packet loss between two machines connected by an ethernet switch.19:36
ioriawaddupglitchmob,  (will use nouveau, obviously)19:36
lotuspsychjeunity-greeter got stuck on earlier picture instead of my current wallpaper background on login 16.04, i have been messing with dconf and wallpaper folders but cant get it straight, any clues?19:37
lotuspsychjemikek: perhaps wireshark or etherape can sort your lost out?19:37
OerHeksmikek, change cable?19:38
JakesDen any wai i can have a script running to make it so when caps lock is on it holds right click on?19:38
iorialotuspsychje,  have you modified some lightdm's file ?19:39
lotuspsychjeioria: not that i know off19:39
mikeklotuspsychje: I don't have wireshark or etherape installed but I can try that19:39
mikekOerHeks: Ok I will try switching cables19:40
lotuspsychjemikek: how did you notice packet lost? ping?19:40
mikeklotuspyschje: yes with ping. It's around 70% packet loss19:40
lotuspsychjemikek: did it work before?19:42
mikeklotuspsychje: I ran "netstat -s" and there is a high number of packets dropped because of missing route. not sure what that means exactly.19:42
mikeklotuspyschje: no this is a new setup19:43
lotuspsychjemikek: both boxes same ubuntu version? updated to latest? good network card drivers?19:43
iorialotuspsychje,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/772253/what-file-or-setting-controls-user-backgrounds-in-unity-greeter19:44
OerHekshardware breaks after 5 years, or within 2 weeks .. but i would check the cables first19:44
MonkeyDusthi lotuspsychje19:44
lotuspsychjehey MonkeyDust :p19:44
lotuspsychjeioria: lemme check19:45
iorialotuspsychje,  looks like your issue, not sure about the fix19:45
mikeklotuspyschje: yes both are ubuntu 16.04. I am not sure about the network card drivers.19:46
craptalkis it possible to do penetration testing on ubuntu distro?19:47
ikoniayes19:47
craptalkand is there any free material on the internet about pentest?19:47
ikoniano19:47
ikonianothing good19:47
mikekOerHeks: tried changing cable but still no bueno19:47
craptalkikonia: should i just install metasploit framework?19:47
ikoniano19:48
docmurIs it possible to download perl from 5.18 to 5.14?19:48
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ikoniadocmur: if there is a package for it in the ubuntu repos - that is an easy situation, other than that it will make things become unsupported19:48
lotuspsychjemikek: check network drivers with lshw -C network perhaps19:49
lotuspsychjeioria: i dont see a 10-unity-greeter file there19:49
lotuspsychjeioria: and 10-unity-settings doesnt seem like to contain wallpaper stuff19:50
iorialotuspsychje, "I have created the file ... "19:50
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lotuspsychjeioria: ok lemme try19:50
mikeklotuspsychje: Here is a gist https://gist.github.com/mkaisercross/721be04181d8384600796a1805109a1319:52
lotuspsychjemikek: perhaps it might be handy to tail -f /var/log/syslog while data transfer between both boxes maybe some usefull errors?19:54
Guest79588Help please cant source the problem ubuntu 16.04 arduino 1.6.10  can not find the motive why  ttyUSB0 dosent show up at Ports19:54
MonkeyDustGuest79588  i guess you have to be in #ubuntu-arm19:57
mikeklotuspyschje: ok added the output to the https://gist.github.com/mkaisercross/721be04181d8384600796a1805109a1319:57
bmintzhelp! my mouse cursor is invisible in xfce after locking and unlocking the screen and now i have to make extensive use of keyboard shortcuts i'm not familiar with!20:00
bmintzwat do?20:00
mikeklotuspyschje: I checked the output on both machines by the way. It looked pretty much the same.20:01
Bashing-ombmintz: I have seen some instances of ctl+alt+F1 ; alt+f7 brings it back .. maybe ?20:01
bmintztried that it didn't help20:02
bmintzthat's my goto normally20:02
guzzlefrybmintz: I'm trying to remember how I fixed that, other than disabling anything that would lock the screen...20:02
bmintzi just did drag and drop and that resolved it for some reason :o20:02
bmintzi swear my bugs are the worst sometimes20:02
bmintz*strangest, at least i can boot!20:03
lotuspsychjemikek: router or firewall interfere?20:03
guzzlefrybmintz: There's a worse one where if you unplug the mouse, or it goes to sleep (being a wireless mouse) when you enter sleep mode you won't be able to wake the computer back up. :P20:04
bmintz:O20:05
mikeklotuspyschje: I installed ufw on one but I disabled it before doing the test. There is also DHCP server on one of them.20:10
anonymous_'nn20:11
anonymous_a]sld20:12
anonymous_h'20:12
anonymous_hi20:12
squisherhey folks, I just upgraded my nuc to xenial and now it hangs during boot time around when it's initializing lvm20:14
Bent0Somehow this little Shuttle PC im using doesnt output anything when booted.  1920x1080 screen tried both HDMI and VGA. I do have picture when booting (can see BIOS) but after Ubuntu starts the display turns off because theres no output.20:18
Bent0VGA works fine on another screen at 1440x900. Two other screens at 1920 no picture. It should be able to do 1920x1080 tho. Any ideas?20:18
squisherhm and that recovery option is pretty borked - I can log in, drop to a root shell, and seconds later systemd bombs the screen and returns me to a broken recovery menu20:21
mikeklotuspyschje: I just noticed something. I tried making each machine ping the other at the same time and it looks like they are taking turns.20:24
mikeklotuspyschje: It's random how many pings will occur but whenever one starts the other stops.20:25
toastymallowI installed Ubuntu I am running the suggested drivers for my GTX 970 yet I still get screen tearing when watching a movie or even when moving windows anyone have any ideas?20:27
bmintzbent0 is there a more specific error message you get?20:29
bmintzdoes it hang then drop to initramfs shell?20:29
iandawglordcirth: that boot fix suggestion you gave me worked, thank you very much20:30
iandawgI know it's not directly related to ubuntu, but I have some obnoxious bios screen prompts when I boot now...20:31
Bent0bmintz: Nothing. It doesnt output anything20:31
iandawgDefault Boot Device Missing or Boot Failed. Insert Recovery Media and hit any key then select "Boot Manager" to choose a new Boot Device or Boot Recovery Media "Ok"20:31
iandawg(Boot Manager Screen)20:32
iandawgBoot Option Menu 1. Windows Boot Manager (HBG4e)20:32
iandawg(only option)20:32
iandawgAnyone ever see this? Any suggestions around it?20:32
guest-aw432tHi, I can not access the graphical environment, I returned again to the login screen, can you help me?20:36
Bent0bmintz: I managed to exit the GUI by pressing CTRL ALT F1 on the 1440 monitor. Then plugged in the HDMI cable, disconnected VGA and I got a picture on my 1920 screen.20:37
Bent0Started X by hand and now im logged in with a picture. But it returns to old behavior when I reboot. Looks like X is holding something back20:38
bmintzits hatred of you20:38
bmintzburied deep in the arcane config files is its deepest feelings20:38
bmintzwhat secrets do you hold, /etc/X11/X11.conf?20:39
bmintzwhat do i not know?!20:39
bmintzso hopefully that answers your question Bent020:39
Bent0lol20:39
ikoniabmintz: you'll do better if you just engage with people clearly, rather than trying to talk in riddles20:39
bmintz:(20:39
bmintzbut idk the answers it holds20:40
bmintz>trying \n well i thought i did a good job :(20:40
ubuntu021hi, whats the best way on ubuntu to host your own website securly, is yunohost really any good20:43
ikoniaa basic webserver20:43
ikoniathats all you need20:43
ikonianothing else20:43
bmintznginx?20:43
ubuntu021well a database as well20:43
ubuntu021my problem is keeping it secure20:44
k1l_ubuntu021: yunohost is no ubuntu20:44
ikoniaubuntu021: how is that a problem20:44
ubuntu021how do i secure ubuntu server base20:44
ikoniayou can't really ask that as a quetion20:45
ikoniaas it depends on a lot of things20:45
ikoniait's up to you to understand your system and minimise the risks it offers and have auditing in place for the risks20:45
k1l_ubuntu021: ubuntu ships updates to fix known security issues. but the config and to use strong passwords or key auth is the admins task.20:45
ubuntu021yes but it's just a home test server that i need to be public20:46
ikoniaubuntu021: how does that change anything ?20:46
bmintzhttps://caddyserver.com/ this simple server written in go with built-in Let's Encrypt TLS may be of help, although for database you may need some FastCGI wizardry20:47
bmintzit's very simple though so YMMV but if you only need something simple it's worth looking into20:48
ubuntu021would i be better off running containers for security (docker) as in db in one container and webserver in another and just send data across, i could also run pfsense as a firewall20:48
ikoniano20:48
ikoniayou're making a problem20:48
ubuntu021how so20:49
ikoniawhat is wrong with a web server and database20:49
bmintzalthough pfsense wouldnt be a bad idea right?20:49
ikoniayou have 3 things to secure. core OS, web server, database20:49
ikoniaadding more to it opens up more options20:49
ikoniawhy ?]20:49
ikoniawhy do you need phsense on a webserve ?20:49
ikoniait's totally overkill20:49
bmintzoh20:50
k1l_if you cant secure your webserver and database, that is the main issue, imho. putting it into a sandbox like containers or stuff doesnt make the data more secure in the database etc.20:50
ubuntu021any good reading material on securing ubuntu server and hardening20:51
yeatsubuntu021: this looks pretty good: https://blog.mattbrock.co.uk/hardening-the-security-on-ubuntu-server-14-04/20:52
OerHeksthat depends per service, i guess20:53
yeats(found with the magic of google :-) )20:53
ubuntu021yea i thing i'm way in over my head when it comes to security20:54
ubuntu021*think20:54
ubuntu021thanks anyway20:55
guest-aw432tI can not access the graphical environment, I returned again to the login screen. Can you help me?20:56
k1l_guest-aw432t: does guest account work?20:56
guest-aw432tI can not access with me standar user to the graphical environment20:58
ikoniayou said that20:59
k1l_<k1l_> guest-aw432t: does guest account work?20:59
ikoniaand you where asked does the guest account work20:59
ikoniaanswer that question instead of repeating the same thing20:59
k1l_guest-aw432t: iit helps finding the issue if you answer that simple question. so we can get a clue if its a driver issue or a user setting issue20:59
tuelzhow do I test to see if an nginx upstart supervisor is working?  I figured kill'ing with -9 flag of the master nginx process would trigger a nginx.conf to restart it, but no dice21:00
tuelzthe upstart nginx.conf is coming straight from nginx so I imagine it should work https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/examples/ubuntuupstart/21:01
ikoniatrigger an nginx.conf ???21:01
tuelztrigger a conf?  I'm not sure what that means21:01
ikoniathen why are you saying it ?21:01
tuelzxD  I'm asking what you mean21:02
ikoniatuelz: you said it21:02
ikonianginx process would trigger a nginx.conf to restart it21:02
ikoniathats what you said21:02
tuelzoh, I see21:02
tuelzyeah, upstart supervises processes based on configuration, right?21:02
ikoniaupstart has a service definition21:03
tuelzI linked to the config I'm using and the expected behavior is that when I `kill -9 $NGINX_PROCESS` it should be restarted by upstart, but it isn't21:03
alex_kanchi21:03
ikoniatuelz: what is the upstart config set to do for that service21:03
ikonianot all services are re-spawn21:03
tuelzikonia: I've linked to the exact config I'm using here `https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/examples/ubuntuupstart/`21:04
tuelzit does respawn21:04
tuelzor at least it has that keyword and I expect it too21:04
ikoniatuelz: first question, what version of ubuntu is this21:04
tuelz14.04LTS21:04
ikoniatuelz: second question - the nginx package ships with an upstart config, why are you overwriting this with that template21:04
tuelzthis template comes straight from nginx.com - I imagine they are the same, no?21:05
ikoniatuelz: did you even look ?21:05
tuelzI'm deploying with someone elses install scripts, no idea how exactly they are removing the /etc/init/nginx.conf but it wasn't there21:05
ikoniaok - I'm not supporting your custom builds/installs21:06
tuelzokay, thanks for your time21:06
TekNiteComplete IRC nub. First time user. Downloaded to 14.04. Advice in the IRC universe?21:06
tuelznothing really custom about upstart though21:06
ikoniayou have no idea21:06
ikoniayou've just said you don't know how they are deploying21:06
ikoniawhich means you don't know what's happening, so I don't trust that you can say what's changed/custom and what's not21:07
bmintzafter installing fcitx, when i use ctrl+shift+u i don't get any indication of the numbers i'm typing. not a travesty as i can still use fcitx's awesome unicode search thing but it would be nice, but i only really need it for a few i can't type21:07
tuelzI said I don't know how the config isn't there, much like there's millions of other things about every computer that I don't know about :)21:07
k1l_TekNite: advice for what? :)21:07
ikoniatuelz: you want nginx running safe and simple ?21:08
tuelzI want nginx supervised to restart when killed21:08
VinceVonhey all, is there a terminal that I can resize like a normal window, instead of setting the geometry in columns and rows?21:08
ikoniatuelz: ok - stop what you are doing, delete your custom stuff, and just open the package manager and install nginx21:08
tuelzikonia: doing that now, thanks21:08
VinceVonI'm using a tiling software in ubuntu gnome, all windows fall in place correctly, but the term always has white space around and is slightly off place21:08
toastymallowanyone have any idea how to fix screen tearing when using a gtx 970 I should be able to run movies fine but it tears even when moving windows around....21:09
lordcirthtoastymallow, what drivers are you using?21:10
VinceVontoastymallow: I've got a gtx 750M with the latest drivers (367.35) and vsync does not work in ubuntu, at least21:10
VinceVonaccording to my research, it's because of X, apparently Wayland/Mir would work fine21:11
lordcirthI have a GT 650 and it works fine.21:11
VinceVonhow many children did you sacrifice?21:12
toastymallowtried nouveau and nvidia binary 361.42 tearing in both21:12
VinceVonI've got a diagonal tearing I cannot get rid of21:12
VinceVonand the times I tried, I either crashed X, unity or gnome21:12
lordcirthVinceVon, I installed nvidia driver from repos and rebooted.  Worked ever since21:12
VinceVonI'm getting the drivers from the ppa21:13
VinceVonthe official nvidia ppa21:13
VinceVonno vsync settings work21:13
tuelzhmm, neither nginx nor nginx-full package appears to be installing a nginx.conf21:13
toastymalloware you getting any tearing lordcirth?21:15
lordcirthtoastymallow, 0 problems21:15
toastymallowhm....21:15
lapionHello,21:15
lapionHow can I get linux-firmware-nonfree for xenial ?21:15
VinceVonppa:graphics-drivers/ppa21:15
VinceVonlordcirth: correct?21:15
FinetundraAnyone have any idea where wine might have installed it's libs?21:16
lordcirthVinceVon, I am using nvidia-361-updates/xenial21:17
VinceVoninteresting, you think 367.35 may have broken vsync?21:17
stevendaleIs Ubuntu Server 16.04 as stable as 12.04 or 14.04?21:19
lordcirthVinceVon, I don't know.  It is worth trying 361.  Be aware that the last time I rolled back drivers it took a bit of tinkering21:19
ikoniastevendale: yes21:19
lordcirthstevendale, it's an LTS, and .1 is out, so yes21:19
stevendaleOkay21:19
stevendaleThanks21:20
VinceVonlordcirth: thanks mate21:21
Bashing-omtoastymallow: Optimus ? Maybe see about : https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/tearfree-test .21:23
YankDownUnderstevendale: It's fast, easy and solid. This is a great question to ask in #ubuntu-server21:23
stevendaleOk21:23
stevendaleI want it on a Summer 2001 iMac G321:24
bmintzafter installing fcitx, when i use ctrl+shift+u i don't get any indication of the numbers i'm typing. not a travesty as i can still use fcitx's awesome unicode search thing but it would be nice, but i only really need it for a few i can't type. any ideas?21:25
YankDownUnderstevendale: THAT is something you'll have to muck about with, bro...architecture...21:25
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AnastropheHi, does anyone here use a Razer Deathadder chrome under Ubuntu? I'm wondering if there's a way to change DPI and whatnot, or if it will at least retain its config if done under Windows with the utility.21:33
Anastrophe*Chroma21:33
lordcirthAnastrophe, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Razer21:36
Anastrophelordcirth: Ah yes I was looking at this a little while ago, wasn't sure if it supported that particular revision though. Thanks!21:39
pkuykenis there any particular _technical_ advantage of one flavor of ubuntu over another, or are the flavors generally look and feel only (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu MATE in particular)21:39
lordcirthpkuyken, they are the same thing with a different desktop package.21:40
pkuykenlordcirth: That's what I thought, but I wanted some confirmation.  I've been trying to wear out a flash drive with each flavor to see which one I like the most21:41
eva_hey guys, how's the state of AMD drivers for 16.04 LTS?21:42
bmintzif i restart X right now will i lose anything? or will my session be locked still?21:44
lordcirthbmintz, if you restart X, any programs running in it will close21:45
k1l_bmintz: its a relogin technically21:45
bmintzohk21:45
bmintzbrb21:45
k1l_bmintz: with shutting down all programs21:45
cantstanyaHave idiots bothered inappropriately asking about Umbongo on Windows here yet?21:46
cantstanyaI don't feel like looking through my logs.21:46
lordcirthcantstanya, all the time21:46
cantstanyaCool21:46
cantstanyaNap time for me, hi phunyguy21:47
lordcirtheva_, depends on your card.  Latest ones are supported by AMDGPU.21:47
omerls21:48
eva_I have a 6850 and I was using fglrx, everything just broke when i upgraded to 16.04, i hear they abandoned support for fglrx?21:49
AnastropheMy understanding is that the benefit of using one ubuntu flavour over just sticking a DE on top of the vanilla ubuntu release is that there's probably some specific packages for better integration or something.21:49
eva_16.04LTS*21:50
ikoniaeva_: ubuntu has not abandonded anyhing21:50
ikoniaAMD dropped the propritary modules21:51
daxAMD stopped developing fglrx and it's not compatible with current Xorg. They're working on amdgpu-pro instead.21:51
daxwhich doesn't support older cards, those will use radeon going forward21:51
ShotokanZHhi evryone21:52
RaxzAnastrophe: would that have prevented Nautilus breaking everything when I installed cinnamon? (until I manually told it to stop doing that)21:53
Raxzstuff like that :P21:53
ShotokanZHdoes anyone knows why i can't launch the htop version installed via "snap" using ubuntu-core-launcher?21:53
ShotokanZHit sais: "appname htop not allowed"21:53
Anastrophelol21:53
AnastropheRaxz: My experience is that trying to do something in Linux will rarely give the expected result.21:54
Raxzpretty much21:54
reisiolike what?21:54
AnastropheGetting a wireless adapter to work in Ubuntu in 2006-2008 basically included going outside and doing a rain dance.21:54
reisioso your experience pertains to a decade ago only?21:55
Anastrophereisio: No, for example, I tried installing fedora the other night and after running updates to the newest kernel via dnf, it wouldn't even boot.21:56
AnastropheObviously, you can fix most things when they crop up, you just have to be ready for something to crop up.21:57
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eva_ahhh ok, I understand... so I should rely on radeon drivers going forward then...22:06
k1l_eva_: yes. radeon is the standard now. and for new cards there is support from amd for amd_gpu22:07
bmintzt22:10
eva_ahhh thanks22:11
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sabatWhat's everyone's preferred means of filling in PDFs on linux? This is literally the only reason I have a windows partition atm.22:28
kajayachtI like Foxit Reader personally22:29
Anastrophesabat: What do you mean by 'filling'22:30
lordcirthAnastrophe, I assume he means pdfs with fillable form fields22:30
sabat^^22:30
orlocksabat: there's a command line tool.. its not really user friendly, unless thats your sort of thing22:30
AnastropheAh, I didn't even know PDFs could be edited once made. Shows how often I deal with them.22:31
sabatI don't mind cli tools. what's it called.22:31
orlocksabat: lets you dump a list of the fields,  then choose what to fill them with22:31
sabatThey're a pain Anastrophe. I have one class that requires them weekly, and I'd rather not reboot every time I need to fill one in.22:31
AnastropheI'm googling right now to see why they're even still used. Seems they're better font quality and what not than other formats.22:32
dsabaninhey everyone!22:32
dsabanincan somebody help me find a way to make sure a window is tied to a particular workspace when it launches? (ideally I'd love to manage it's size and location also)22:33
sabatI can tell you why this lady uses them. Because she's an incompetent "professor" who teaches and outdated health class with information from the mid 80s. But it's a required class for graduation.22:33
Jordan_Usabat: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PDF_forms https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PDF_forms Note that while otherwise great, Inkscape doesn't support multiple page documents.22:33
lordcirthsabat, do you need only to print or to send them back as PDFs?  Those ^ linked just do printing by sticking the text on top.22:34
sabatorlock, what was the cli tool called?22:34
orlockAnastrophe: Lots of reasons PDF's are used22:34
Anastrophesabat: At least it's not an animal homeopathy course, those do exist.22:34
lordcirthThe one that claims to fill them is dead22:34
sabatI need to send them back. It's an online class.22:34
orlocksabat: Just googling, its been about 2 years - i was using it for a drupal website backend to automatically populate names on business cards22:35
sabatOkay, thanks.22:35
orlock https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/22:35
Anastropheorlock: Yeah I'm reading into it now, surprised I'd never given it thought before.22:35
sabatThanks orlock! :)22:35
sabatIf anyone else thinks of something better, feel free to msg me. afk for a bit.22:36
orlockAnastrophe: i worked in IT in the printing industry for approaching 10 years, its pretty much the #1 standard there22:36
Anastropheorlock: Seems to be popular in legal proceedings too due to not being alterable without leaving a trace or so I'm reading at the moment.22:37
orlockAnastrophe: Even over a decade ago, Adobe had software under linux for creating PDF's22:37
transhumanhow from inside a gnome-terminal (ubuntu default terminal I believe ) do you set the title of the terminal gnome-terminal --title="SOME TITLE HERE"  does not seem to work22:37
orlockAnastrophe: That's debatable, but yes basically - you have much greater assurance about the layout and quality then you do with html22:37
transhumanbb in 522:38
Anastropheorlock: Is the PDF format proprietary?22:38
lordcirthAnastrophe, it's easy to alter a PDF in terms of security.  Only digital signatures can make any claim about being unaltered.22:38
orlockAnastrophe: Not any more, open standard since 200822:39
PixiioHey guys.. I can't install Php 5.6 on my Ubuntu 14.04 server... http://pastebin.com/q3jcgsfE22:40
PixiioAnyone got an idea?22:40
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orlockPixiio: your command to add the repository is wrong22:41
k1l_Pixiio: please make sure you read the ppa info: This PPA is going to be DEPRECATED, please use ppa:ondrej/php22:41
PixiioOh... this is the one I found on all of the website's. Would you please tell me the good one? :)22:41
PixiioWhoops..22:41
k1l_https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php5-5.6   read this22:41
PixiioThanks, will do!22:42
AnastropheInteresting22:42
lordcirthPixiio, also, add-apt-repository is in software-properties-common package22:42
PixiioHmm. I see that it is deprecated.. But I still cannot find the good command..22:43
ikonia"the good command" ?22:43
Pixiio''Pixiio: your command to add the repository is wrong''22:43
PixiioOr is that error because it is deprecated?22:44
ikoniano22:44
ikoniathe actual command is wrong22:44
ikoniaadd-apt-repository22:44
PixiioWhat's wrong about it?22:44
lordcirthikonia, since when is add-apt-repository deprecated?22:44
ikoniayou need the tool installed to use it22:44
ikonialordcirth: it's not22:45
rawrzers99991is it possible to remove a program on your hard drive from a live cd? probably not I assume but I installed Xen and now it won't load to regular ubuntu22:45
lordcirthikonia, well then it's not a wrong command22:45
PixiioAh, got it.22:45
PixiioThanks.22:45
rawrzers99991I didn't backup grub beforehand :(22:47
agustinhola22:48
agustinalguien?22:48
JohnnyMonday  this is a beautiful rant.22:48
AnastropheIs the difference between a PPA and an ordinary repo simply that the PPA is managed by launchpad and gives a developer a more consolidated/canonical provided means of providing software?22:49
k1l_!es | agustin22:49
ubottuagustin: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:49
k1l_Anastrophe: it mean litteraly everyone can make a PPA and provide software with that. so you need to trust that guys 100%.22:50
Anastrophek1l_: But is it essentially the same as a repo in any other distro?22:50
k1l_Anastrophe: no22:50
k1l_Anastrophe: well, you could compare it to a 3rd party repo. but not to the original ubuntu repos where there is a team of developers who need to get trusted before they get upload permissions.22:51
Anastrophek1l_: So it's like a third party repo system?22:53
k1l_yes. where everyone gets access.22:53
Anastrophek1l_: Ah okay, but can't you just add a random repo to your software sources file and then pull from there. Why a PPA?22:55
k1l_Anastrophe: yes. the PPA offerst some service to the maintainers like automated buildings etc.22:56
k1l_so for the enduser its nearly the same, but ubuntu got easy commands to add and rmeove those PPAs.22:57
AnastropheAhh I see. I've often found that a PPA will exist for easy installation of a piece of software, where another distro may not even have a package and you have to compile from source.22:59
k1l_Anastrophe: PPAs are ubuntu specific.22:59
tewardAnastrophe: there are multiple third party repositories, that are not PPAs, which can provide packages for other distributions (for example I run a Debian repository for the ZNC project that has packages for ZNC backported to Wheezy, and available for install, with a GPG key of my own available for the repo)23:02
tewardbut PPAs are Ubuntu specific, yes23:02
teward(as k1l_ stated)23:02
transhumananyone know why gnome-terminal  t="TERM-1" doesnt work neither does gnome-terminal --title="TERM 1" work>23:02
Anastropheteward: I've found Ubuntu with its PPAs has often made things quick and easy compared to when I've tried other distros :)23:03
transhumanalso tried gnome-terminal --show-menubar --title="TERM-1"23:04
reisioAnastrophe: sounds like your problem might stem from trying to use a multitude of distros/OSes at once, instead of just using one23:05
transhumandoesn't work23:05
reisiotranshuman: define work23:05
transhumanno change of title opens new terminal though23:05
dannysmc95_Hello I have a fairly big problem with ubuntu 16.04 fresh install? At the moment I load ubuntu and then get to.the login screen, login and then I get a blank screen... which I can't do anything with?23:05
Anastrophereisio: No problems, I'm just trying to understand the comparative differences.23:06
dannysmc95_Well I get the desktop background and that's it23:06
dannysmc95_I'm lost because I can't access tty eithet23:06
transhumanI am running a network of emulators so i need it to change title to keep track of them...ideally I would like to script this which is why I want to do it in the terminal23:06
reisioAnastrophe: between what & what?23:06
reisiotranshuman: think I'd probably use screen or tmux for that, and change the title via PS123:07
transhumanyou wouldnt have a link on how to do that would you...never used tmux or screen I assume PS1 means via export command but not sure23:08
Anastrophereisio: The concept of a PPA, and a software repo in general.23:08
dannysmc95_Anyone? Please?23:08
transhumanor a google term reisio23:08
AnastropheK1L gave me an explanation23:08
lordcirth!patience | dannysmc95_23:08
ubottudannysmc95_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:08
lordcirthdannysmc95_, you can't switch to a tty with Ctrl-Alt-F2?23:09
dannysmc95_I already have done all of the googling, literally I can't find a fix you are my last resort...23:09
reisioAnastrophe: ppa is just Ubuntuland's way of referring to 3rd party packages23:09
dannysmc95_@lordcirth: nope just black screen23:09
reisioAnastrophe: a repo is just a place packages are stored, some are official, some are 3rd party23:09
lordcirthdannysmc95_, ok, and if you reboot, you should be able to get a tty before logging in23:10
dannysmc95_Nope when on the login screen I try to access it but blank screen still23:10
dannysmc95_@lordcirth: ^23:11
Anastrophereisio: Ah I see23:11
lordcirthdannysmc95_, did you try choosing fallback mode in grub?23:11
dannysmc95_@lordcirth: what is that sorry?23:11
dannysmc95_I dual boot with windows 1023:12
lordcirthdannysmc95_, your boot menu.  Below the option for Ubuntu there is usually a fallback option23:12
reisioAnastrophe: well, I guess I should've said the most popular way: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas23:12
reisioAnastrophe: you can obviously have a 3rd party .deb distributed in basically any fashion23:12
reisioAnastrophe: ppa would be, let's say, the official way to distribute unofficial packages23:12
dannysmc95_Erm I have: ubuntu, advanced options, Windows boot manager, system setup @lordcirth23:13
lordcirthdannysmc95_, advanced, probably23:13
dannysmc95_@lordcirth Okay I have normal, upstart, or recovery mode?23:14
lordcirthdannysmc95_, recovery23:14
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dannysmc95_@lordcirth: I have so many options: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system summary23:16
lordcirthdannysmc95_, seeing as you're having problems with graphics, try failsafeX23:16
dannysmc95_@lordcirth I get the system is running in low graphics mode? Something to do with not being able to detect my graphics settings?23:19
dannysmc95_Could this be why my gui isn't loading23:19
dannysmc95_@lordcirth I'm not sure how I should fix my problem?23:20
lordcirthdannysmc95_, read /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, they are usually good places to start for graphics23:21
dannysmc95_So log into console?23:21
lordcirthdannysmc95_, that would be required, yes23:23
dannysmc95_@lordcirth Okay thanks!23:26
Yosfsalut23:34
ajruizHi everybody!!!23:34
josephhi23:39
josephi need a script pls23:39
ajruizsomeone from México?23:43
xangua! Es | ajruiz23:46
ubottuajruiz: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:46
rahlquist___hey yall, trying to get a static IP set on my 16.04 based server, followed guide https://michael.mckinnon.id.au/2016/05/05/configuring-ubuntu-16-04-static-ip-address/  and when I try to restart network it errors interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/22637285/23:56
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