[00:00] <YankDownUnder> mrtrousers: If you're running 16.04, well, the only thing I'd be able to tell you is that if the package that is in the repos doesn't work, you might want to wait a bit until it gets "upgraded" and then pushed down with the normal updates...unless you're desiring to "go outside of the system" and do it the old fashioned way...
[00:01] <WindTaLkeR> hi
[00:02] <mrtrousers> Ive tried compiling and all. Is there a way to get all the dependencies while compiling? auto-apt is supposed to do that but it doesent.
[00:03] <ovrflw0x> on ubuntu all audio outputs are detected, but on Xubuntu i only see one output!! how to fix this?
[00:07] <YankDownUnder> mrtrousers: From a logical standpoint, the "system" is not going to install "lower" versions of libraries...have you considered running a different version in a VM?
[00:08] <mrtrousers> well the thing is its for computing gpu, cpu, etc.. dont know if in virtual machine woudl be as good. WOuld it?
[00:09] <mrtrousers> And the thins is: Boinc says it supports, ubuntu, ubuntu says it supports boinc, but things dont work..
[00:09] <YankDownUnder> mrtrousers: Depends on the VM you create...however, that being said, I suppose the whole impetus to the situation you're in is exactly *how* important it is to run SETI/BOINC...and then make decisions based on that priority...
[00:10] <mrtrousers> Well of course, i could forget about it and go for a walk, but..
[00:11] <lordcirth> Well, thanks for reminding me to install Boinc on my new install.
[00:12] <mrtrousers> the documentation says it should work so it shuld work. Im stubborn like that.
[00:12] <YankDownUnder> mrtrousers: ...or run out and buy another monitor - OH WAIT, that's my plan, sorry... ;)
[00:12] <sarek> I use xset m 1 1 to adjust my mouse as a startup command, but it doesnt work on some startups, so i tried to do an @reboot /usr/bin/xset m 1 1 cronjob but that didnt work. Any ideas?
[00:12] <mrtrousers> Right now the option is to go back to windows, and i hate going back for things like this
[00:12] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, what was your problem exactly?  It just worked fine for me
[00:13] <lordcirth> It freezes?  Mine seems fine so far
[00:13] <mrtrousers> DO you have ubuntu 16.04? Are you using boinc? lordcirth
[00:13] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, yes, I literally just installed it now when I saw you asking
[00:13] <mrtrousers> Ok. DOes your gpu get recognized?
[00:13] <lordcirth> Kubuntu 16.04, but I doubt that makes a difference
[00:13] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, I haven't tried a GPU project yet.  I will test
[00:14] <mrtrousers> OK. And close the boinc manager/gui, and open it again.. See what happens..
[00:15] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, closing to tray?  Works fine
[00:15] <mrtrousers> what you mean closing to tray?
[00:16] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, by default, when you click X, it stays running in the notification tray
[00:16] <mrtrousers> to the left panel? no i mean close the whole thing and restart the program lrodcirth
[00:16] <mrtrousers> lordcirth
[00:16] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, ok I will try
[00:17] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, seems fine
[00:17] <mrtrousers> you closed totally, and reopened?  It works fine? With all functionality? buttons, etc..?
[00:18] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, seems fine
[00:18] <mrtrousers> well, not my case and got a new ubuntu 16.04 install
[00:19] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, what does stdout show?
[00:20] <mrtrousers> buttons become whitish and cannto be pushed. and guis says retrieveing data forever
[00:20] <mrtrousers> it says command not found
[00:21] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, what command?
[00:21] <mrtrousers> lorcirth is stdout a termina command?
[00:22] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, standard output.  As in, if you launch Boinc Mgr from the command line, does it give an error when it freezes?
[00:22] <mrtrousers> no, i launch it from search your computer in the tray
[00:23] <mrtrousers> ill install again
[00:23] <mrtrousers> sudo apt-get install boinc-client boinc-manager
[00:23] <mrtrousers> How do you launch it lordcirth?
[00:24] <mrtrousers> boinc manager command not found
[00:24] <squinty> hyphen
[00:24] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, boincmgr .  Use tab-complete, it's a wonderful thing
[00:24] <mrtrousers> ok boincmgr lordcirth
[00:25] <mrtrousers> buttons white, unable to connect to core client
[00:25] <squinty> fwiw, just installed it here with no problems
[00:26] <mrtrousers> and 512 gpu error, the ubuntu version just doesent work. At least for me
[00:27] <mrtrousers> squinty you installed?
[00:28] <squinty> mrtrousers, yes, seems to be no problem here
[00:28] <mrtrousers> did you open boinc manager?
[00:29] <mrtrousers> Ah ok, did you join a project? and start computing?
[00:29] <squinty> mrtrousers, yes and joined a project
[00:29] <mrtrousers> ok now close it
[00:29] <mrtrousers> the whole gui i mean
[00:29] <mrtrousers> If you want suspend the task before..
[00:31] <squinty> mrtrousers,  completely closed it and then brought it up agaain.  "Retrieving current status"  tbh, never ran this rascal before so am not really sure how it is supposed to respond when it is first opened
[00:31] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, did you install the extra package 'boinc-client-nvidia-cuda' ?
[00:32] <mrtrousers> and thats the problem. Retrieving current status forever, and whiteish/frozen buttons
[00:32] <mrtrousers> lordcirth, yes
[00:33] <mrtrousers> It will only work if you purge boinc-client boinc-manager
[00:33] <mrtrousers> Then you can reinstall, but will only work one time
[00:35] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, where do you see whether it's detected your GPU?
[00:35] <leafybasil> I added the iptable rule "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3000 " which is similar to one I've run on other boxes, but it seems not to be working, any ideas why?
[00:35] <mrtrousers> i type boinc in teminal
[00:36] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, ah I see
[00:37] <mrtrousers> Do you get the gpu error?
[00:38] <mrtrousers> lorcirth, does it recognise the gpu or you get 512 error?
[00:39] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, 512, however, I am investigating whether running it as the correct user "boinc" makes a difference
[00:39] <mrtrousers> lordcirth, does it recognise the gpu or you get 512 error?
[00:39] <mrtrousers> ah ok, thanks lordcirth
[00:40] <mrtrousers> You see, there was something in there. Ive been like that for 24 hours lol.
[00:40] <mrtrousers> Asking boinc and ubuntu.
[00:40] <daily> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.
[00:42] <mrtrousers> lordcirth my workaround is install boinc from berkeley page http://boinc.berkeley.edu/
[00:43] <mrtrousers> But then it lacks libwxgtk2.8 lordcirth
[00:43] <mrtrousers> squinty did you find a workaround?
[00:44] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, hey, so boinc (started properly by the package) keeps a log in /var/log/boinc
[00:44] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, and in there, it says it detected my GPU
[00:45] <squinty> mrtrousers,  first time I ran boinc from commandline got "dir_open: Could not open directory 'slots' from '/home/squinty"  made the directory "slots" and then started the gui again....controls seem responsive now.
[00:45] <mrtrousers> ok, so if i mkdir slots, the gui will restart fine?
[00:45] <mrtrousers> squinty
[00:46] <squinty> mrtrousers, well it worked here so might want to give it a try
[00:48] <mrtrousers> How did you start the gui squinty?
[00:48] <squinty> mrtrousers, via the dash
[00:49] <mrtrousers> dash? you mean the search your computer? Was the gui responsive straight away or it took a long time?
[00:50] <mrtrousers> was boinc working on the terminal when you opened boinc manager? squinty
[00:50] <squinty> mrtrousers,  yes   popped up right away and connected to server(s)
[00:50] <lordcirth> I am launching from KDE menu and it's instant
[00:51] <asad_> whenever I connect my headphone to my laptop's jack, i hear very a loud buzzing sound
[00:51] <asad_> this started today
[00:51] <asad_> what could be the problem?
[00:51] <squinty> mrtrousers,  in terminal when starting "GUI RPC bind to port 31416 failed: 98" and it exited.  starting from the gui seems to be no problems
[00:51] <lordcirth> asad_, did you do updates or change anything else in software?
[00:51] <mrtrousers> Ok i  created slots dir, and now i launch boinc manager and still doesent work.
[00:51] <squinty> asad_, check to see what level your input mike is set at
[00:51] <asad_> lordcirth: No I didn't do anything. I even reinstalled Ubuntu. Same problem.
[00:52] <lordcirth> asad_, then 95% it's hardware.
[00:52] <asad_> lordcirth: you mean my headphones?
[00:52] <lordcirth> asad_, or laptop jack, or soundcard, or cable... if reinstalling the OS doesn't fix it, it's not software
[00:53] <lordcirth> asad_, well, did you do updates when reinstalling?  Could be a regression I suppose
[00:53] <mrtrousers> lorcirth what you mean from the kde menu?
[00:53] <asad_> lordcirth: how could something suddenly stop working though? it was perfectly fine
[00:54] <mrtrousers> squinty you thing is creating the slots dir that solved it? Can you close and open again?
[00:54] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, I am running KDE.  I launched it from the K menu in the bottom left.  Functionally the same as Dash
[00:54] <lordcirth> asad_, because things break?  Unlike software, hardware wears out.
[00:54] <asad_> lordcirth: all my hardware is new.
[00:55] <squinty> mrtrousers, here just adding the slots directory and then starting the gui manager, project commands started working
[00:55] <asad_> lordcirth: do you suggest trying an older version of ubuntu? maybe 14.04?
[00:55] <asad_> lordcirth: im on 16.04.
[00:55] <mrtrousers> squinty you have 16.04?
[00:55] <lordcirth> asad_, it's worth a shot I suppose.  Don't bother installing it, just livecd
[00:55] <squinty> mrtrousers,  yes and up to date
[00:55] <mrtrousers> squinty slots directory was created in home/squinty/?
[00:55] <squinty> mrtrousers, yes
[00:56] <asad_> lordcirth: ill give it a try. lets see what happens.
[00:56] <mrtrousers> then why mine is not working?
[00:56] <squinty> mrtrousers,  heh  no idea off hand. :-)
[00:57] <squinty> mrtrousers,  might want to check /remove the contents from the hidden boinc directory ~/home/mrtrousers  for example and then restarting.
[00:58] <transhuman> hi got a problem with 4.4 kernel wont boot get flash of purple screen with No UBUNTU on it and then turns black and never boots installed 4.6 kernel and it works fine, cant figure it out. Unfortunately vbox wont work with 4.6 kernel. anyone able to help
[00:59] <mrtrousers> Still not working, makes no sense, as i have gone through the same process as squinty
[00:59] <lordcirth> transhuman, this happened when you updated from 4.3?
[00:59] <transhuman> yes when I updated from 15.04
[01:00] <squinty> mrtrousers,  /var/log/boinc.log   might want to check it for error messages
[01:00] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, start boinc with systemctl first, btw
[01:00] <transhuman> lordcirth from 4.4.0-34 or 4.4.0-31 not sure which
[01:01] <francis> hello guys
[01:01] <francis> i need help here
[01:01] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, what GPU?
[01:01] <lordcirth> !ask | francis
[01:01] <francis> i just got a mifi surfline  4g router
[01:02] <mrtrousers> 740m
[01:02] <mrtrousers> 740 m
[01:02] <mrtrousers> lordcirth
[01:02] <francis> i know these guys are out there generating unlock codes to unlock this device but i want to know tonight how they go about it.
[01:02] <squinty> mrtrousers, using unity here btw
[01:02] <lordcirth> transhuman, what GPU?
[01:02] <transhuman> thinking of trying AMD built into cpu
[01:02] <transhuman> forget what that type is called
[01:02] <mrtrousers> squinty aparently log its ok, like i didnt leave it enough time, but if i leave it i know it will stay forever frozen.
[01:03] <lordcirth> transhuman, APU
[01:03] <mrtrousers> squinty what you mean unity?
[01:03] <squinty> !ot | francis
[01:03] <francis> come someone help me out please
[01:03] <lordcirth> transhuman, what APU model?
[01:03] <transhuman> radeon R5 Graphics
[01:03] <clearcut__> is there any book that helped you focus your work/programming habits, made you consistent, made you get the job done, made you more pragmatic, more smart about how you work, improved your worflow, helped you utilize your time better?
[01:03] <francis> ok sorry
[01:03] <squinty> mrtrousers,  default desktop for ubuntu.
[01:03] <lordcirth> !ot | clearcut__
[01:04] <mrtrousers> squinty isnt it gnome?
[01:04] <mrtrousers> squinty lordcirth http://pastebin.com/hCH0MRvf
[01:04] <squinty> mrtrousers, on top of gnome
[01:04] <mrtrousers> squinty i think i have unity to, it comes by default right
[01:05] <squinty> mrtrousers,  yes
[01:05] <transhuman> lordcirth, its built into the cpu which is probably the source of the problem (its a new tech)
[01:05] <transhuman> 4.6 doesnt have the problem but it has the vbox problem...I cant win
[01:06] <dan> hello
[01:06] <squinty> mrtrousers, 07-Aug-2016 02:27:43 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects   in your paste.  Is Project Commands active now?
[01:07] <mrtrousers> squinty no
[01:07] <lordcirth> transhuman, yes that's the idea, could you tell me your APU model please?  "lscpu | grep Model"
[01:07] <daily> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.
[01:07] <transhuman> model 48 AMD A6-7400K Radeon R5, 6 Compute Cores 2C+4G
[01:09] <lordcirth> transhuman, have you tried troubleshooting with nomodeset?
[01:10] <transhuman> wouldnt that affect both kernels?
[01:10] <lordcirth> transhuman, it might workaround a problem with a certain driver version?  It's worth a shot
[01:11] <transhuman> it wont even boot I dont think into recovery mode if I remember right (but that was last week) so come to think of it I am not sure its the video..is there a way to be sure
[01:11] <transhuman> no problem i will try got a kb on using that?
[01:11] <squinty> mrtrousers,  fwiw, here is my boinc.log output   might give you a clue as to what's happening at your end   http://paste.ubuntu.com/22521007/
[01:12] <squinty> mrtrousers, have you updated since installing?   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade  if not
[01:13] <mrtrousers> lets try again
[01:13] <lordcirth> transhuman, well, if you can ping it when the screen is black, then it's booted at least partially
[01:13] <mrtrousers> squinty
[01:14] <transhuman> ah I do that on the kernel command line how do I make it perminent with grub2
[01:14] <squinty> mrtrousers,  got to go and put dinner on  :-(  will be back if I get a chance
[01:14] <mrtrousers> what was it update and?
[01:14] <transhuman> oh I see, i didnt try that
[01:14] <mrtrousers> upgrade i guess
[01:15] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, full-upgrade , it's right there in scrollback
[01:15] <mrtrousers> scrollback?
[01:15] <mrtrousers> A no, my irc got closed
[01:15] <mrtrousers> so i lost it
[01:16] <mrtrousers> upgrade or full-upgrade command not found lordcirth
[01:17] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, 'apt update && apt full-upgrade' as he said
[01:17] <lordcirth> All package management is done through apt (or the old apt-get)
[01:18] <kai> interesting apt seems weird to type, I always put the apt-get lol
[01:19] <lordcirth> kai, yeah me too for like 2 weeks
[01:19] <transhuman> ok lordcirth thanks for the help rebooting now to see if its fixed updated grub.cfg and ran update-grub
[01:19] <transhuman> I think thats all i have to do after putting nomodeset in cfg
[01:19] <transhuman> can you confirm
[01:19] <lordcirth> transhuman, well, I meant do it temporarily on boot, but that works too
[01:20] <transhuman> I am hoping your right. skip a second reboot since nomodeset was on the running kernel but not on 4.4
[01:20] <transhuman> rebooting
[01:22] <iandawg> Hey guys, I'm trying to do a clean install of Ubuntu v16 on my laptop (wipe all internal drive contents and install only Ubuntu OS). I've followed the steps to use Rufus USB Installer, created the install media on my Lexar thumbdrive, ran the install using option "Erase all data and install..." But I can't boot from my internal HDD
[01:23] <kai> checked bios settings? strange, took out usb? I'm kinda a noob so yeah I might only have a few ideas
[01:23] <internut> iandawg: So, you saw it got all the way through the install and then reboot?
[01:23] <iandawg> Yes
[01:23] <iandawg> It gave some message that I can continue in "try mode" but I would need to "restart now"
[01:23] <iandawg> (clicked restart now)
[01:24] <internut> I just installed 30 minutes ago and I never saw any "try mode". Sounds like it had a problem with your install and it suggested a recovery option.
[01:24] <internut> I don't think your install completed successfully.
[01:25] <iandawg> The message said the install was successful (I paraphrase the dialog)
[01:25] <iandawg> I'm basically running Ubuntu, now, directly from the USB drive.
[01:25] <lordcirth> iandawg, internut, at the end of the install, it says you can continue to Try Ubuntu (live) or reboot to use the install.  It's normal
[01:26] <internut> oh okay... I didn't do the live mode, I just went straight into install from my USB bootloader
[01:26] <iandawg> lordcirth : yes.
[01:26] <lordcirth> iandawg, and if you don't have the USB in there, nothing boots?
[01:26] <iandawg> That's right
[01:26] <iandawg> my laptop shows a message "no boot media found"
[01:26] <lordcirth> iandawg, did you run the USB's self-check?
[01:26] <lordcirth> BIOS or UEFI?
[01:27] <iandawg> from the initial ubuntu USB boot options?
[01:27] <iandawg> I've tried both - but UEFI
[01:28] <lordcirth> iandawg, yes, when the grub bootloader loads, there's an option to verify the image.  It's a good thing to do even if it's rarely the problem
[01:28] <iandawg> I did run that check. returned "no errors"
[01:29] <lordcirth> iandawg, ok excellent
[01:31] <lordcirth> iandawg, try the top answer here on your liveUSB: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158321/how-can-i-get-grub-to-appear-after-installing-ubuntu-with-windows-7-using-a-live
[01:31] <internut> Of course, Ubuntu created a huge swap partition on my NVMe drive. Gonna move that sucker to a slower drive.
[01:32] <codingboy> leel
[01:32] <codingboy> hi?
[01:32] <iandawg> lordcirth: even though I ONLY want Ubuntu (not Win7 side-by-side)?
[01:33] <lordcirth> iandawg, yes, it's a general solution
[01:34] <lordcirth> internut, use manual partitioning if you have requirements like that :)  Auto is for single-drive standard installs.
[01:35] <elspru> hi, I'm trying to install a custom kernel, but update-initramfs says that it is "ignoring old or unused kernel"
[01:35] <elspru> should I be worried about that?
[01:35] <elspru> it says that about the kernel I'm installing, and says latest is blank
[01:35] <lordcirth> elspru, well, seeing as your initramfs should match your kernel, yes, that's a problem
[01:36] <elspru> so how do I fix it?
[01:36] <iandawg> lordcirth: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <iandawg>  Simple tool to repair frequent boot problems.
[01:36] <iandawg> Website: https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home
[01:36] <iandawg>  More info: https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/ubuntu/boot-repair
[01:36] <iandawg> Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[01:36] <iandawg> gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpn317tlgs/secring.gpg' created
[01:38] <elspru> okay I'm trying that boot-repair thing
[01:40] <transhuman> well that didnt work. worse yet I cant try installing amd video drivers from AMD because of no support from 16.04
[01:40] <iandawg> lordcirth: http://pastebin.com/YAaEudBa
[01:40] <lordcirth> iandawg, please dont paste multiple lines
[01:40] <elspru> hmmm can't use boot-repair because don't have GUI, my boot problems extend to no kernel modules loading, so no x server
[01:41] <iandawg> Sorry about that
[01:41] <iandawg> I created a pastebin link with the output
[01:41] <transhuman> any other ideas lordcirth
[01:41] <transhuman> i am plum out
[01:41] <lordcirth> transhuman, 14.04?
[01:41] <transhuman> what about 14.04?
[01:42] <transhuman> I cant downgrade..wishing i never upgraded to be honest
[01:42] <kai> Just wondering if anyone could help with a sound issue, I think this might be my problem
[01:42] <lordcirth> transhuman, load your backups :P
[01:42] <kai> [   66.458089] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: Disabling MSI
[01:42] <kai> [   66.458096] snd_hda_intel 0000:01:00.1: Handle VGA-switcheroo audio client
[01:42] <kai> [   66.460952] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: no codecs found!
[01:42] <elspru> transhuman: lol, in same boat here
[01:43] <lordcirth> !paste | kai
[01:43] <transhuman> um... backups? no backups on this workstation I just started using it for IoT development
[01:43] <transhuman> I dont really want to start over again
[01:43] <lordcirth> iandawg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/761592/unable-to-apt-get-dist-upgrade-on-a-persistent-ubuntu-16-04-usb/
[01:44] <transhuman> elspru what trouble you having
[01:44] <elspru> old kernel, and no modules
[01:44] <elspru> no x-server, just console, am using irssi
[01:45] <transhuman> opposite for me new kernel no modules and stock kernel not working with cpu/gpu combo
[01:45] <transhuman> stupid me tried to save money buying a gpu regretting it now
[01:45] <elspru> I recompiled a new kernel, which should work, but it's not being understood by update-initramfs
[01:45] <transhuman> what error is it giving you/
[01:46] <lordcirth> elspru, did you follow this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[01:46] <elspru> it is telling me that it is ignoring the old or unknown kernel (the one I compiled) and saying latest is blank
[01:47] <transhuman> with my problem i dont get is that I can run it on a newer kernel so its not like there is a interfering module loading or something
[01:47] <kai> If anyone could help with a no sound related issue Much would be appreciated. :)
[01:47] <transhuman> kai i have one of those too
[01:48] <elspru> kai: hae you tried sdl for sound? mplayer -ao sdl
[01:48] <transhuman> in my case kai it wont recognize the microphone on the headset from 5below
[01:50] <transhuman> been at this all freaking day my ass is killing me from sitting in this damn seat ...my stand up workstations fan is dead and so i cant run it...gee wiz nothing is working lately
[01:54] <mrtrousers> hello
[01:55] <elspru> transhuman: I think it migth make most sense to backup your work to an external hard drive or usb/sd, then install a fresh version.
[01:55] <elspru> that's what I'm planning if I don't manage to get it working by the end of the day
[01:55]  * elspru already has backups on several other computers
[01:56] <mrtrousers> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4UumdHxgqo
[01:57] <transhuman> elspru and everyone else found the amd beta drivers which support 16.04 going to try it http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[01:57] <mrtrousers> Ok, i rebooted and now wallet is resyncing will it take another 48 hours? It makes no sense
[01:58] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, bitcoin wallet?
[01:58] <elspru> k so moment of truth I'm going to reboot
[01:59] <mrtrousers> yup, my mistake i was writin in another tab
[02:00] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, ah ok.
[02:11] <devan> Hello, I have installed mpd and ncmpcpp and I used it once pointing my Music directory to ~/Music folder and for some reason I havent changed any of the config and it is not finding any media, It worked the first time i used it and now it isnt detecting any media
[02:11] <devan> I have checked permissions on all music folders and I have RWX access as user on all
[02:12] <daily> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.
[02:14] <logy> Hi everyone, I just want to ask are there any versions of gedit, leafpad or mousepad for windows?
[02:15] <lordcirth> logy, a quick search says yes for gedit: https://blogs.gnome.org/nacho/2014/07/30/gedit-3-for-windows/
[02:15] <lordcirth> However there's probably a newer version than that
[02:16] <iandawg> lordcirth: I'm back... my computer froze while running that second command you gave me. Can you send me those linnks, again?
[02:16] <lordcirth> logy, 2016: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/binaries/win64/gedit/
[02:16] <logy> thank you lordcirth i searched for a leightweight text editor thats a bit better than notepad, thank you
[02:17] <lordcirth> iandawg,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/158321/how-can-i-get-grub-to-appear-after-installing-ubuntu-with-windows-7-using-a-live    http://askubuntu.com/questions/158321/how-can-i-get-grub-to-appear-after-installing-ubuntu-with-windows-7-using-a-live
[02:21] <kai> Can anyone help me with a no sound issue? Think it might be related to this dmesg output "snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: no codecs found!" thanks
[02:23] <lordcirth> kai, did you try installing some codecs?
[02:30] <bassam_> Hi. I make a change to my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d file and now xfce won't start anymore. Can someone help?
[02:30] <lordcirth> bassam_, undo the change?
[02:31] <bassam_> lord4163_, the problem is is that I use crouton(for chromeboxes) and now I am unable to start xfce
[02:31] <bassam_> lord4163_, therefore I can't access the file
[02:31] <lordcirth> bassam_, wrong username autocomplete.  You can't get a command line?
[02:32] <bassam_> lordcirth, sorry. I'm at the command line in chromebox but I cannot edit 50-synaptics.conf file which is located in the directory i mentioned
[02:33] <lordcirth> bassam_, why not?
[02:33] <bassam_> lordcirth, well, when I try to get into the directory xorg.conf.d from the shell in chromebox, it says it doesn't exist
[02:34] <bassam_> lordcirth, i can get to X11 but the only directory there is xkb
[02:34] <lordcirth> bassam_, well, you probably have to start crouton or whatever to get into the Ubuntu install.  You're in ChromeOS.
[02:35] <bassam_> lordcirth, it gives me an error and ubuntu xfce doesn't start :/
[02:35] <AciD`> hey, I'm currently updating my 16.04 ubuntu computer, but somehow the upgrade freeze on grub-pc update just after the 'Found memtest86+ image : /boot/memtest86+.bin' line. Additionally, I can ls /boot, but cannot `df` without having that cmd freeze too. Is that bad doctor?
[02:36] <AciD`> also; I seeing a warning about the sector 32 being already used by a 'flexnet' program
[02:36] <Jordan_U> bassam_: I'm guessing crouton uses a chroot, so you just need to find out where the Ubuntu root directory is stored.
[02:37] <bassam_> Jordan_U, yes i believe it does. Any idea how I would find out?
[02:37] <Codenomics> ok so horribly stupid question... I am creating a symlink, I want the files to actually be stored in dir called store so I would "ln -s original/dir /path/to/store" correct?
[02:37] <Codenomics> or other way around?
[02:38] <AciD`> Codenomics > try it, it won't owerwrite anything
[02:38] <Codenomics> try it?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> AciD`: df freezing is not a good sign. The warning about flexnet won't hurt you, it just means that you installed some software in Windows from a company that cares more about enforcing DRM than the well-being of its users (probably Adobe Photoshop).
[02:39] <bassam_> Jordan_U, oh i think I found it, let me see if i can make a change
[02:39] <Codenomics> AciD`: I can try it... but I wanted to make sure that I had it right before I tried it
[02:40] <AciD`> Jordan_U > bummer, I haven't booted under windows for years now :/
[02:40] <Jordan_U> AciD`: dmesg | pastebinit
[02:40] <bassam_> Success!! thanks guys
[02:41] <Jordan_U> AciD`: The flexnet DRM bits stay on your drive until you explicitly remove them.
[02:41] <AciD`> Jordan_U > well, I just typed `reboot` as root, but it seems to no go very far :/
[02:42] <mrtrousers> Hello
[02:42] <mrtrousers> squinty
[02:42] <mrtrousers> lordcirth
[02:42] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, hi
[02:42] <mrtrousers> i got the deb package and installed.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libwxgtk2.8-0/download
[02:43] <mrtrousers> why im still getting the same error:
[02:43] <mrtrousers> error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:43] <Bashing-om> Codfection: Basically, think of it like this: ln -s 'location to link to' 'name of symlink' . See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2316613 for a great explanation .
[02:43] <AciD`> well, weird
[02:44] <AciD`> a reboot (hard reset in fact) solved the df -h problem Jordan_U
[02:44] <AciD`> now, to remove that flexnet malware..
[02:44] <AciD`> :)
[02:47] <mrtrousers> why installing the deb package wont fix the error?
[02:48] <mrtrousers> i got the deb package and installed.. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libwxgtk2.8-0/download
[02:48] <mrtrousers> error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:48] <mrtrousers> Help!
[02:48] <Bashing-om> !info boinc
[02:49] <mrtrousers> THis version doesnt work, its buggy and it sucks
[02:49] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Compare ^ to ' dpkg -l boinc '. Maybe you have an old version of boinc installed ??
[02:50] <mrtrousers> no its good
[02:51] <Bashing-om> !find libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0
[02:51] <Bashing-om> !find libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 trusty
[02:53] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: ' apt-cache depends libwxgtk2.8-0 ; apt cache rdepends libwxgtk2.8-0 ' ?
[02:54] <mrtrousers> no packages found
[02:55] <pkuyken> Is there a way to configure the menu bar in Unity to show the entire application name, rather than chop it off?
[02:58] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Ok. Be sure to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt full-upgrade" to be sure all pending upgrade stuffs completed.
[02:58] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Required ! see : ' apt show libwxgtk2.8-0 ' output .
[03:00] <Fr_Dae> +1 Jordan_U
[03:00] <Fr_Dae> fuck apt-get, => juste apt with color is cool =)
[03:01] <lordcirth> !language | Fr_Dae
[03:02] <Fr_Dae> ok ok sorry
[03:03] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: Humm .. to this time I can not find a libwxgtkXXXX in xenial .
[03:04] <kanar1an> hello
[03:05] <kanar1an> how can i find channel list ?
[03:06] <AciD`> Jordan_U -> just curious, is there a difference between `apt full-upgrade` and `apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> mrtrousers: This one the one that we need ' ls -al /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwx_gtk2u_html-3.0.so.0 ' ? per : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libwx_gtk2u_html&mode=filename&suite=xenial&arch=any .
[03:12] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Possibly a subtle difference but I think the results of either will be exactly identical 99% of the time.
[03:12] <AciD`> ok
[03:15] <kurowa> hello
[03:15] <phiona> on 16.04, why does an insstall of inkscape also remove grub-customizer?  if i remove grub-customizer, will it now affect  grub?
[03:16] <Jordan_U> AciD`: apt is a new front end, and the "dist-upgrade" name is historical and somewhat confusing so since they didn't need to worry about backwards compatability they changed it :)
[03:16] <AciD`> Jordan_U -> well in that case I guess that means I'm old ;)
[03:17] <AciD`> also, for info, I found a very clear explanation on how to remove that flexnet malware : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254
[03:17] <kurowa> so. in 16.04, is there a way to uninstall everything and return ubuntu to the state where it is freshly installed?
[03:19] <TheFly> Hey ya'll.  I've a question. Instead of a bootable CD or USB, can I make an external HDD bootable?  Just burn the iso to the USB drive it's connected to, right?
[03:20] <Jordan_U> kurowa: You can re-install preserving /home (which will preserve the settings of any programs run as your user) or re-install just preserving your documents / media (the latter you would have to do manually).
[03:20] <TheFly> Basically, my files are stuck on a drive.  Testdisk can take them off but only the drive you boot up on.  500gb is too big for a USB drive.  But if I boot from an external HDD, I can copy right on to that
[03:21] <Jordan_U> TheFly: A hard drive is a hard drive for the purposes of booting. (Also, "burning" is a term that only applies to optical media like DVDs).
[03:22] <kurowa> Jordan_U: if I saved document on another partition, do I need to backup? I want to return it to freshly installed state, removing all programs and config.
[03:22] <TheFly> Jordan_U:  Okay, very well.  Nonetheless, is what I'm hypothesizing correct?
[03:22] <kurowa> The second one.
[03:22] <kurowa> yes
[03:23] <TheFly> kurowa talking to me?
[03:23] <TheFly> no nm, you're not
[03:23] <Jordan_U> kurowa: Yes and no. You don't "need" to backup, but no matter what you're doing you should always have backups of any important files.
[03:23] <kurowa> I'm dual booting, so I made partition for access to windows too.
[03:23] <kurowa> Jordan_U
[03:23] <kurowa> TheFly: Sorry.
[03:24] <TheFly> How did you message me and make your text red?
[03:24] <Jordan_U> TheFly: I don't understand the limitation you're talking about. Testdisk should have no problem recovering files from a drive it wasn't booted from; in fact it's probably the more common case.
[03:24] <Jordan_U> TheFly: By including your nick at the start of my message.
[03:25] <JeffATL> I am about to gift a freshly-installed ubuntu machine to a woman whose autistic son starts an online class on Monday. Does anyone know if a USB headset will plug in and Just Work (tm)? I don't have one to test with.
[03:25] <Jordan_U> !tab | To make highlighting people more convenient:
[03:25] <TheFly> Jordan_U when I press left key in in Testdisk to go all the way... I can't find the external drives attached to my PC
[03:26] <TheFly> Jordan_U I can only browse within the USB in which I booted into Ubuntu.
[03:27] <Jordan_U> JeffATL: I think it most likely will, but I don't have a lot of personal experience (I have used a USB headset with my Ubuntu machine, and I don't remember it being a hassle).
[03:27] <JeffATL> Jordan_U: thank you!
[03:27] <Jordan_U> TheFly: Look in /media/
[03:27] <phiona> on 16.04, why does an insstall of inkscape also remove grub-customizer?  if i remove grub-customizer, will it now affect  grub?
[03:27] <TheFly> Jordan_U Ok thanks!
[03:27] <kurowa> Jordan_U. I have backup. then
[03:28] <kurowa> Jordan_U: I have backup. then?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> phiona: How did you install grub-customizer?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> kurowa: Re-install, then copy / mount / symlink (whatever you want to do) your data where you want it.
[03:30] <phiona> Jordan_U: i dont remember. i think  with synaptic.
[03:31] <Jordan_U> phiona: It's not available in the default repositories.
[03:31] <lordcirth> JeffATL, look up the model + 'linux' or 'ubuntu'
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Sorry, I have to leave.
[03:31] <lordcirth> Or do you not know the model?
[03:33] <daily> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Using PulseAudio, my mic produces a bad static noise regardless of input volume. This doesn't occur when bypassing pulseaudio using arecord. I've changed the default rate PulseAudio uses, to no avail. Any help is appreciated.
[03:34] <phiona> Jordan_U: ok. so iet was probably installed with terminal.
[03:35] <JeffATL> lordcirth: i'm texting to ask
[03:36] <phiona> Jordan_U: ok. so it was probably installed with terminal.
[03:41] <TheFly> Jordan_U: Hey man thanks for that!
[03:42] <TheFly> Jordan_U:  Files are currently copying.  I feel like Tom Hanks AFTER the storm in castaway.  I'm coming home.....
[03:42] <CoolBreeze227> is there a libgcrypt20 library of files that can file downloaded together
[03:42] <CoolBreeze227> I downloaded one file it said i needed and they when i tried to run it it said i need another one
[03:43] <CoolBreeze227> i thought i might be missing some files maybe
[03:43] <TheFly> #porn
[03:43] <TheFly> lol
[03:43] <TheFly> how to do I to a different channel?
[03:43] <dax> TheFly: /join #channelname
[03:43] <TheFly> THANKS dax!
[04:04] <sarek> I want a backup solution thats as close to time machine as possible. Something where i dont have to restore the whole thing, but can actually browse files by date and pick and choose. Anything like that exist?
[04:05] <kai> to the new monitor
[04:13] <MelRay> Just installed 16.04 at first Unity displayed a shorcuts page. How do I bring it back up?
[04:17] <phiona> Jordan_U: ok. so it was probably installed with terminal.
[04:20] <MelRay> Holding down the super key (windows key) does nothing to bring up the keyboard shortcuts display?
[04:27] <pfifo> Hey everyone :)
[04:28] <pfifo> I am trying to use grep just like i have a bajillion times in the past, but after updating to 16.04 it is now tacking extra data onto its output 'Binary file (standard input) matches' what is going on, it never did this before?
[04:28] <sponix> pfifo: Did you remember the --sucks=off flag ?
[04:30] <pfifo> sponix: I have never done that in the past, if such a directive was being used it was an alias in my bashrc
[04:30] <mrtrousers> hello
[04:30] <mrtrousers> can you get graphic interface in ubuntu server?
[04:31] <lordcirth> mrtrousers, just install one of the desktop packages, like xubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <lordcirth> Although generally the point of Server is that you don't...
[04:35] <BUSY> how can i add a repository to install xchat
[04:36] <Bashing-om> BUSY: Why ? as xchat is not longer maintained ?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> !xchat
[04:37] <BUSY> Bashing-om: thanks!
[04:42] <pfifo> is irssi activly maintained?
[04:43] <mrtrousers> how can i close an application in ubuntu terminal?
[04:44] <mrtrousers> control c
[04:44] <Myrtti> pfifo: yes
[04:48] <Bashing-om> pfifo: #irssi channel for support .
[04:49] <pfifo> good, i would hate to lose it
[05:25] <Xe> my surface pro 3 is somehow installing a non-efi version of ubuntu when it is booted over EFI, how do I force an efi install if EFI detection fails?
[05:26] <reisio> Xe: what's the install medium?
[05:27] <Xe> reisio: USB, created by `dd`
[05:28] <Xe> ubuntu 16.04.1 image fwiw
[05:28] <reisio> read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[05:31]  * Xe grabs boot-repair and tries again
[05:32] <chuks> thanks
[05:36] <ilithios> q
[05:36] <jayZ> hey ya all
[05:37] <ilithios> hello
[05:38] <mrtrousers> hello
[05:39] <mrtrousers> im running an ubuntu server, i want to run a task, and then close the shell but leave the tas running
[05:39] <ilithios> Are there people here who are able to help me? I am unable to log in. I can get to a console where I am now and it works fine, but when I try to log in to the desktop interface it just keeps going back to the login
[05:40] <cfhowlett> !server | mrtrousers
[05:40] <mrtrousers> cfhowlett i already have that
[05:41] <mrtrousers> im executing a task and want to close the shell but leave it running
[05:42] <reisio> mrtrousers: use screen, or tmux
[05:42] <reisio> for something better, look into init scripts/service files
[05:42] <reisio> AKA daemonization
[05:45] <chuks> please how do i uninstall a program from my ubuntu computer. i am new user
[05:45] <ilithios> anyone have any ideas? I'm unable to log into the desktop but can use the console.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> chuks, go to the software center and remove it
[05:47] <ilithios> *
[05:47] <ilithios> help? sendline
[05:48] <cfhowlett> !bepatient | ilithios
[05:48] <cfhowlett> !patience
[05:49] <ilithios> ok I wasn't sure if I had correctly sennt the message so anyone saw it. I am not used to command line IRC client
[05:49] <panpan> Hello, im using a vnc service and sometimes it crashes, i try to restart and kill the service but i get this error "net:1 is taken because of /tmp/.X1-lock"
[05:51] <Xe> i don't like how the boot repair livedisk doesn't contain EFI booting support
[05:51] <cfhowlett> Xe,  except it does
[05:52] <Xe> cfhowlett: what is the correct way to make an EFI friendly boot disk from a mac?
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Xe, never done it for a mac. see the wiki.
[05:52] <cfhowlett> !mac
[05:53] <Xe> no i mean
[05:53] <Xe> i dd'd the image over to the USB drive
[05:53] <Xe> and the machine is not booting off of it
[05:53] <Xe> the machine in question is a surface pro 3, i am writing an image via my mac
[05:54] <Xe> should i dd it to the raw device or just a partition on it?
[05:55] <cfhowlett> haven't installed on a Surface Pro either. please see: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=surface+pro+ubuntu+install&t=canonical&ia=web
[05:56] <Xe> yes, the model of the computer is largely irellevant for most purposes. I just want to fix efi.
[05:59] <reisio> Xe: what's the actual error?
[05:59] <Xe> reisio: the error is that the machine is not booting
[05:59] <Xe> that is the crux of the debug information the surface pro 3 machine gives
[05:59] <Xe> the efi system partition has way too little data in it
[05:59] <cfhowlett> can't be much more non-informative than that ...
[06:00] <reisio> Xe: what happens when it boots up?
[06:00] <Xe> leading me to believe that the kernel and grub is not installed there
[06:00] <reisio> how far does it get
[06:00] <Xe> reisio: it dumps you to the bios boot screen unless you boot it off of an ubuntu 16.04 drive. I'm in a chicken and egg scenario because i need to install a custom kernel package but in order to do that i need to boot the system
[06:01] <reisio> Xe: drive?
[06:01] <reisio> TMI anyway
[06:01] <reisio> you're saying your image on a usb stick does not boot at all?
[06:01] <reisio> the bios/uefi doesn't accept it as a thing to boot from?
[06:01] <Xe> it doesn't boot if it's the boot repair CD
[06:02] <Xe> if it's fedora or ubuntu, works fine
[06:02] <reisio> "works fine" doesn't sound like a problem to me
[06:02] <Xe> yes but
[06:02] <Xe> then when you install it to the system
[06:02] <Xe> the system does not boot into ubuntu
[06:02] <Xe> when you reboot it that is
[06:02] <reisio> what's it boot to?
[06:02] <Xe> the bios settings screen because it cannot find an OS
[06:03] <reisio> does it say "can't find an os"?
[06:03] <Xe> no
[06:03] <reisio> what does it say?
[06:03] <Xe> it gives no error message, it just doesn't work
[06:03] <Xe> that is how the surface pro 3 hardware is :/
[06:04] <reisio> so you can boot the install media
[06:04] <Xe> ...okay
[06:05] <reisio> and you can chroot into your installation that's on the internal storage?
[06:05] <Xe> using unetbootin worked
[06:05] <Xe> ...and of course the keyboard doesn't work in the live session
[06:09] <Xe> "please enable a repository containing the [linux-generic] packages in the software sources of ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (sda2). Then try again."
[06:11] <Xe> "failed to run /bin/bash"
[06:11] <Xe> i think this install is boned...
[06:12] <reisio> Xe: that from a chrooting attempt?
[06:13] <Xe> reisio: yeah
[06:13] <Xe> i am just gonna reinstall
[06:14] <Xe> somehow the ubuntu installer installed a system without core packages
[06:15] <Xe> like coreutils and bash
[06:15] <ilithios>  /quit
[06:31] <acer> how do you switch between apps
[06:31] <acer> using alt + tab
[06:31] <acer> ?
[06:31] <acer> whats the keyboard shortcut
[06:31] <reisio> acer: yes, alt+tab
[06:32] <acer> because the system monitor is saying theres 2 gedits running thats using a ton of memory
[06:32] <acer> and i can't switch to it
[06:33] <reisio> killall gedit
[06:34] <Xe> reisio: yeah, even doing a reinstall doesn't get it working
[06:34] <Xe> sigh
[06:34] <reisio> not sure what made you think doing the same thing over again would produce a different result
[06:34] <reisio> you dual booting?
[06:35] <Xe> i made the USB via a different means (unetbootin vs dd)
[06:37] <noobuntu> Are there linux apps that can do what https://www.desmos.com/calculator does?
[06:40] <noobuntu> Basically graph equations and interact with them by changing constants?
[06:41] <reisio> noobuntu: yup
[06:42] <reisio> there are entire emulators of physical graphing calculators, even
[06:42] <reisio> but those are kinda for tourists :p
[06:42] <OerHeks> Qalculate can do plot/graph AFAIK
[06:47] <noobuntu> reisio: name?
[06:49] <reisio> x48?
[06:52] <yinflying2016> :q
[07:01] <mohamad> hey
[07:02] <reisio> heyo
[07:12] <Geom> dead wow
[07:27] <OERIAS> dwdfdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddccccccccccccccccccc          dvaaaaaaaaaaavvAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:27] <baizon> OERIAS: do you experience keyboard problems?
[07:28] <OERIAS> sorry my I justed spilled water
[07:28] <OerHeks> buy that cat some food, OERIAS
[07:40] <ilithios> hello again. I updgraded to Ubuntu 16,04 but still can't log in to my desktop. But since the upgrade now it flashes a screen with a whole bunch of "clearing inode" messages indtead of just flashing the screen at me. but still end up back at the login prompt. any ideas?
[07:41] <baizon> ilithios: try creating a new user
[07:42] <ilithios> ok will try that
[07:42] <OerHeks> tons of upgrade issues lately: boot, hold shift, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run update -f, all should be fine now
[07:45] <ilithios> OerHeks: it should be noted that this is not a new issue after upgrade. It's the same issue that existed before th eupgrade but the upgrade didn't fix it. the only difference now is that it shows a bunch of messages about "clearing inode" instead of doing nothing at all
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> my unity-greeter got stuck on a previous picture and doesnt wanna load my current wallpaper on 16.04, any clues to reset stuff? been messing with dconf-editor but no luck
[07:46] <cfhowlett> ilithios, relevant information!  please run df -i | pastebin
[07:48] <ilithios> pastebin: command not found
[07:48] <ilithios> is this something i need to install?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> ilithios, relevant information!  please run df -ih | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:49] <ilithios> http://termbin.com/su1h
[07:50] <cfhowlett> click on that ilithios
[07:50] <ilithios> well I can't click it, it's in a terminal window. I can go there with Lynx?
[07:51] <ilithios> I mean not window. it's in a terminal
[07:51] <cfhowlett> open your browser and go there
[07:56] <ilithios> Ok I have that up. It was sulh, not su1h. 1 and l look almost exactly the same in this terminal
[07:57] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:57] <cfhowlett> do it again and read the output
[07:59] <ilithios> output was the same both times. type it all here?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> no type the new URL here
[07:59] <cfhowlett> and it should NOT be the same!
[07:59] <ilithios> termbin.com/69u7
[08:00] <ilithios> hmm well i don't see any difference
[08:00] <ilithios> I mean the info on the page is the same. not the url
[08:00] <cfhowlett> ilithios, OK, well my theory was that your inodes were filling up your storage but that is clearly not th ecase
[08:01] <ilithios> hmm. ok. I am in a terminal on the same computer and it works just fine. just can't log in to the desktop
[08:02] <gebbione> will upgrading from 14 to 16 cause problems? ie. need to reconfigure stuff
[08:02] <gebbione> re-install etc
[08:03] <cfhowlett> gebbione, in most cases, no problems.  *most* cases
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> gebbione: make a backup just in case if you like
[08:05] <psicobra> hi all need a hand please with getting fstab to auto mount a bind
[08:06] <psicobra> i put what i thought was right but then it didnt boot
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | psicobra
[08:08] <psicobra> i know what fstab is ]
[08:08] <psicobra> otherwise why would i mention it
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> psicobra: did you read the fstab wiki, howto also?
[08:12] <ilithios> for what it's worth created a new user and it does the same thing. also the guest login does the same thing
[08:19] <reactormonk> Can I just dd the .iso onto an USB stick or do I need to apply some magic to get it working?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !usb | reactormonk
[08:22] <psicobra> ok so i got fstab to mount the usb drive binded to my ftp server chroot but its blank
[08:22] <psicobra> says the folder is empty
[08:22] <psicobra> im out of ideas
[08:24] <psicobra> http://pastebin.com/SKEnxiy1
[08:24] <psicobra> that is my fstab
[08:28] <Guest47497> .
[08:34] <OerHeks> 6 ...
[08:39] <OerHeks> 10..
[08:59] <segmastar> Hello?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> !ask
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> segmastar: what can we do for you?
[09:00] <uebera||> !patience
[09:01] <segmastar> I install ubuntu 16.04LTS on my external hard drive but it can't boot.
[09:01] <segmastar> What should I do?
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> segmastar: your external hd is connected via usb?
[09:02] <segmastar> yep
[09:02] <segmastar> usb 3.0
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> segmastar: not very recommended as usb will bottleneck your ubuntu
[09:02] <segmastar> but I want to use it on public computer
[09:03] <Geom> i have installed using only 2gb ram. now, i will add another 6 to make it 8gb. do i just plug it in and its done, or do i need to edit something in ubuntu?
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> segmastar: you could use the liveusb?
[09:03] <segmastar> But can I install software while using live usb?
[09:03] <OerHeks> segmastar, be sure you have grub on that ext hdd too.
[09:04] <segmastar> I have install grub on it
[09:04] <segmastar> *installed
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> Geom: not needed, whats your swap space right now?
[09:05] <Geom> lotuspsychje:  that i have to check. what ever the dafult is
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !swap | Geom have a look here
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> Geom: you can install preload aswell, will work nicely with your new ram
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Geom
[09:06] <Geom> checking.. thanks for the link and the info
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> segmastar: whats the reason you choose ubuntu for a public pc? what will you be doing?
[09:08] <uebera||> segmastar: To answer your question: yes, you can install SW using a live image (it will be placed in a separate container)
[09:08] <segmastar> Many things. Do Data analysis with octave
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> segmastar: the owner of the public agree with this? or perhaps lets you install ubuntu internal/permanently?
[09:15] <Vmong1> Hi Guys
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Vmong1: what can we do for you?
[09:17] <Vmong1> Hey lotuspsychje, thanks for asking. I just pinged here so that i can contribute to the community along with you guys
[09:18] <Vmong1> Cheers
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !contribute | Vmong1
[09:18] <Vmong1> thanks ubottu, will check it out
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Vmong1: anything specific you wanna contribute with?
[09:20] <Tobias92> Hey guys, I have enabled the debsums cronjob on my server, so I get emails about files with a mismatched md5sum. Since upgrading to Xenial, I keep getting mails about a mismatch for '/usr/share/doc/module-init-tools/changelog.Debian.gz'; it seems like the last line is being changed to refer to 'libkmod2' rather than 'module-init-tools' (probably by unattended upgrades). Has anyone got a hint on how to debug this?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Tobias92: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might seen that issue before?
[09:21] <Tobias92> lotuspsychje, ah thanks, I'll try asking there
[09:22] <Vmong1> Guys anyone know is there any active chatrooms for apache hive ? if so chatroom name plz
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Vmong1
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Vmong1: there's a general #httpd channel if you like
[09:24] <Vmong1> lotus, http channel are they discussing about apache hive ?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Vmong1: you could ask apache related issues i guess
[09:26] <Vmong1> oh is it.. lemme try there, thanks so much
[09:28] <_peter_> @search Robert charles wilson
[09:28] <Guest28806> Does anyone of you have suggestions which Ubuntu to install on an old laptop (Pentium M 1.5 Ghz, 1024 MB RAM, 40 GB HDD)?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> Guest28806, lubuntu or MAYBE xubuntu
[09:29] <cfhowlett> Guest28806, of course if you don't need a gui, that model would make a perfectly usable server
[09:29] <_peter_> sry guys
[09:29] <Guest28806> i see, thanks. I've been trying around for quite a time now, but most Distris I've tried to far, are too heavy for the system. ;)
[09:30] <cfhowlett> lubuntu is the lightest IRC
[09:42] <segmastar> Just tell me how,please
[09:43] <miharu> hello.
[09:45] <miharu> Can I request tutorials using ubuntu and linux? I've messed up my pc so bad that I need to reinstall ubuntu.
[09:46] <cfhowlett> !manual | miharu
[09:46] <eswar> how to add apps shortcut in desktop
[09:46] <kvmmm> anyone know how to fix subtitles that look like this? ãîëëàíäñêèé
[09:47] <phiona> on 16.04, why does an insstall of inkscape also remove grub-customizer?  if i remove grub-customizer, will it now affect  grub?
[09:47] <cfhowlett> kvmmm, if you do not have the language packs installed, you will not get the correct subtitles
[09:48] <cfhowlett> phiona, test it for yourself: apt-get -s purge grub-customizer will SIMULATE the operation not execute
[09:48] <miharu> cfhowlett: thanks.
[09:48] <cfhowlett> happy2help! miharu
[09:48] <miharu> I'm learning to be an android developer though. Is this information sufficient for me?
[09:48] <kvmmm> thanks. cfhowlett how do I install language packs?
[09:49] <kvmmm> oh, actually I think I can figure that out
[09:49] <miharu> well, I've learned my lesson to not blindly install everything.
[09:51] <eswar> please me, how to add shortcut of the apps to desktop
[09:52] <phiona> how do we install inkscape without removing grub-costumizer?
[09:53] <OerHeks> eswar, just drag, http://i.imgur.com/8ND6ngv.gif
[09:53] <eswar> ok, thanks
[09:55] <emusic> join #linux
[10:01] <kvmmm> and is there a way to change the timing of the subtitles so it matches the audio?
[10:01] <kvmmm> in the default ubuntu video player. Or am I better off with VLC?
[10:02] <YankDownUnder> kvmmm: Your choice. Most prefer VLC...
[10:02] <kvmmm> but does the default player allow me to change subtitle timing?
[10:03] <YankDownUnder> kvmmm: Most media players do...just a matter of reading the dox
[10:03] <phiona> how do we install inkscape without removing grub-costumizer?
[10:03] <YankDownUnder> phiona: Are you doing this through the normal repos?
[10:04] <cristian_c> hello
[10:04] <cristian_c> I'm experiencing a strange issue with 16.04
[10:04] <phiona> YankDownUnder:  with inkscape., yes.
[10:05] <kvmmm> ok, thanks!
[10:05] <cristian_c> now, I'm always getting failed to stsrt login service loop in the boot log
[10:05] <cristian_c> *start
[10:05] <YankDownUnder> phiona: And what is telling you to remove "grub-customiser"?
[10:05] <cristian_c> start and stop login service messages
[10:06] <cristian_c> along start and stop network manager and lightdm similar messages
[10:06] <phiona> YankDownUnder: synaptic
[10:06] <ducasse> phiona: grub-customizers is not in the standard repos, that's why you're getting conflicts - bad packaging.
[10:06] <cristian_c> in an infijite loop
[10:06] <cristian_c> *infinite
[10:06] <cristian_c> so, I can never reach the login screen
[10:07] <mirak> hi
[10:07] <cristian_c> I read also 'see systemctl status systemd-logind.service' and similar messages for network manager and lightdm services
[10:07] <mirak> how do i extract files from duplicity archive in command line ?
[10:08] <cristian_c> What method coukd I following to figure out what goes wrong?
[10:08] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:08] <phiona> ducasse: so, how do we install inkscape without removing grub-costumizer?
[10:08] <cristian_c> *could
[10:09] <ducasse> phiona: if the packages conflict, you probably can't. i would install inkscape and try to find a package of grub-customizer that doesn't have the conflict. or build one yourself.
[10:10] <cristian_c> mirak: duplicity?
[10:10] <mirak> cristian_c: duplicity
[10:10] <muddyfuns> Good day / good afternoon / good evening
[10:10] <OerHeks> phiona, file a bug to the grub customizer maintainer, i see no simular bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[10:11] <cristian_c> mirak: what is this?
[10:11] <cristian_c> ah, ok
[10:11] <cristian_c> !info duplicity
[10:12] <OerHeks> tons of options, mirak >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/duplicity.1.html
[10:13] <mirak> OerHeks: I know that, but it complains it can't find files in ~/.cache/duplicity, so I don't know how you will restore in case of a complete system crash .
[10:14] <jatt> j
[10:15] <OerHeks> mirak, so you don't want to know howto get files from your backup? as you know that?
[10:15] <phiona> ducasse: or install inkscape now then install grub costumizer after. is that what youre saying?? :)
[10:16] <ducasse> phiona: that will most likely remove inkscape again.
[10:17] <mirak> OerHeks: what makes you think I  don't want that ?
[10:18] <owen>  hello network manager is not working with my evdo connection zte 8700 before it was connecting.Now it is connecting through windows xp only using driver cd
[10:18] <OerHeks> mirak, as you don't seem to like the manual page, but come up with a different question. do we need to know more before starting to find out your issue?
[10:19] <mirak> OerHeks: what makes you think I don't already know the man page ?
[10:19] <mirak> OerHeks: ok haha, I asked more detailed somewhere else
[10:19] <OerHeks> yeah, return the problem to me
[10:20] <OerHeks> you asked, not me mirak .
[10:20] <mirak> OerHeks: in #duplicity. so I did the right command already, but it complains that it can't find a file in ~/.cache/duplicity  which makes we wonder how you can restore files
[10:21] <mirak> OerHeks: I mean restore files on a different system
[10:22] <OerHeks> did you browse and see if it is actually there? also on the source machine or backupmedia?
[10:25] <OerHeks> mirak,  did duplicity find ANY file at all?
[10:25] <mirak> OerHeks: the question is why would I need something in there . Because if you archive on a drive, you want to be able to recover the files even if the computer that hosted the original files burns.
[10:26] <mirak> So i don't understand what is the issue
[10:26] <mirak> fortunely for me I am not in that situation
[10:26] <OerHeks> if it does not find any file, it could be an owner issue of the folder, or the backupfiles
[10:27] <mirak> backup files are on a ntfs drive
[10:27] <mirak> about owner ok, maybe I should try as root
[10:27] <OerHeks> hmm ntfs does not preserve rightmanagment
[10:28] <mirak> OerHeks: but it was the issue, that's weird, it works as root, just to list the files
[10:28] <mirak> Maybe yeah, I saved as root and the .cache folder was owned by root, that certainly the issue
[10:28] <OerHeks> jups, chown the to $USER:$USER ( your user)
[10:28] <mirak> OerHeks: I think also I can select another patt with --archive-dir option
[10:29] <mirak> I just want to be sure I can do what I want from another system, but that would be dumb not to be able to
[10:29] <OerHeks> i think you got the tail of your issue now
[10:30] <mirak> yes. however the error message could be more clear
[10:31] <cristian_c> lol
[10:34] <ElectroMotive> so parole media player is broken on ubuntu studio
[10:35] <ElectroMotive> whenever I try to replay something after its playedd once it will not play it
[10:35] <cristian_c> could it be a good idea reconfiguring the services?
[10:35] <cristian_c> And what between them?
[10:36] <cristian_c> *what ones
[10:36] <cristian_c> *packages related to the services
[10:37] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: only parole?
[10:37] <ElectroMotive> well i have not tried any others yet
[10:37] <ElectroMotive> not that i dont know there are better ones
[10:38] <ElectroMotive> i just want this one to work
[10:38] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: make a test with other players
[10:38] <ElectroMotive> i dont see why this one is the default though
[10:39] <ElectroMotive> but yeah i will test it
[10:39] <ElectroMotive> installing vlc now
[10:40] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: what desktop environment?
[10:41] <ElectroMotive> i think its xfce
[10:41] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: try also gnome-mplayer
[10:41] <cristian_c> I think both use gstreamer
[10:41] <ElectroMotive> xfce V4.12
[10:41] <cristian_c> vlc uses own libraries and codecs, instead
[10:42] <can_> hey
[10:43] <can_> is there anyone here
[10:43] <cristian_c> !anyone
[10:43] <can_> hey
[10:43] <can_> wsup man
[10:43] <cristian_c> !ask
[10:44] <ovrflw0x> windows 7 is bit laggy on ubuntu 16.04, how can i make it faster?
[10:44] <ovrflw0x> windows 7 is bit laggy on ubuntu 16.04, how can i make it faster in virtualbox!
[10:45] <ElectroMotive> well vlc works fine
[10:45] <ikonia> ovrflw0x: give it more resource
[10:45] <ovrflw0x> ikonia, like what? i tried increasing video memory to 128MB disabled 2D 3D acceleration but still nothing!
[10:45] <ovrflw0x> i have 1900MB ram given to it
[10:46] <ikonia> you need to understand why it's slow, is it visually slow, or actually slow to do something
[10:46] <ovrflw0x> both
[10:46] <ikonia> how do you know
[10:46] <ikonia> how have you worked that out
[10:47] <ovrflw0x> it doesn't boot up fast and when i drag windows with mouse they lag
[10:47] <jaami> hmm, newb here, plz help, need ti install ubuntu on my system but i makes my system run too slow. what version i should install on core2due?
[10:47] <ovrflw0x> ikonia, i have n3050 celeron with 4gb ram
[10:47] <ikonia> ovrflw0x: boot time is not a measurement of performance
[10:47] <ikonia> ovrflw0x: so thats going to suck
[10:47] <ikonia> the cpu is junk
[10:48] <ovrflw0x> ikonia, how can i still make it reasonably fast?
[10:48] <ikonia> buy a machine with power
[10:49] <mustafa_> selam
[10:49] <mustafa_> hi
[10:50] <mustafa_> hiiiii
[10:50] <mustafa_> holaaa
[10:51] <mustafa_> selamm
[10:51] <ikonia> please stop that
[10:51] <mustafa_> whattt
[10:53] <oroo> Does ubuntu desktop distro work on ARM architecture? Or server version has to be installed? Lets say if I wanna install ubuntu on ARM tablet.
[10:53] <ikonia> !arm | ovrflw0x
[10:53] <ikonia> oops
[10:53] <ikonia> !arm | oroo
[10:54] <kishore> in my regional language, some character is missing how to solve it
[10:55] <oroo> ikonia, thanks....but yes or no would be a more simple answer LOL
[10:55] <ikonia> oroo: reading the information to understand it so you don't have to ask questions like that, would be the right answer "lol"
[10:56] <oroo> okzzz
[10:56] <ElectroMotive> ikonia just likes to be smug
[10:56] <ikonia> ElectroMotive: not at all
[10:56] <YankDownUnder> There's something wrong with being smug? Wow...learn something new every day...wow...
[10:56] <ElectroMotive> well if you call it helpful i would beg to differ
[10:57] <ikonia> ElectroMotive: giving someone the full info to help them properly is "help" and not "smug"
[10:57] <ElectroMotive> yeah all while laughing at them
[10:57] <ElectroMotive> way to go
[10:58] <ikonia> ElectroMotive: I'm not laughing at them at all, thats why I put it in "quotes"
[10:58] <ikonia> as they said lol
[10:58] <ikonia> ElectroMotive: please stop trying to cause a problem because you are unable to get your problem resolved
[10:59] <ElectroMotive> my only problem right now is you trying to tell me not to ask questions where i choose to although its possible not everyone here is also on ##linux as well
[11:00] <thestranger> er
[11:00] <ElectroMotive> just give it a rest
[11:00] <ikonia> ElectroMotive: errrr what ?
[11:00] <thestranger> hi
[11:00] <thestranger> that was my first message in irc
[11:00] <ikonia> hello
[11:00] <ikonia> !topic | thestranger
[11:01] <Geom> chill
[11:02] <sarek> unless I unmount before I restart, my HFS external becomes read only and i have to repair it on my mac, because repairing it on Ubuntu wont work. Once I repair on my Mac and plug it back into Ubuntu, all becomes well. Any way to avoid this? is this normal? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333003
[11:02] <ikonia> sarek: I spoke to you about this yesterday
[11:02] <ikonia> sarek: you're using a file system with poor write support in linux, not unmounting it before reboot is not closing the files properly so it's marked as dirty
[11:03] <sarek> i think one person said 'hfs has bad xxxx'
[11:03] <ikonia> yes, I said more than that, but "yes" it has poor write support on linux
[11:03] <sarek> I didnt really count that as 'spoke to me' about it, but gotcha
[11:03] <OerHeks> writing on HFS+ .. then you got these journaling issues you don't want.
[11:03] <ikonia> I pretty much said what I've just said
[11:04] <sarek> its not journaled but yeah i understand what ikonia is saying
[11:04] <sarek> I suppose i just have to figure out a way to stop a shutdown unless the drive is cleanly unmounted
[11:06] <cristian_c> ikonia: he (oroo) seems to not be present in #ubuntu-arm
[11:06] <cristian_c> maybe, he has solved
[11:08] <ikonia> cristian_c: I don't care
[11:08] <YankDownUnder> I've tried time and again to use HFS drives under linux - it's a futile effort...
[11:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:09] <ElectroMotive> GM
[11:11] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: tried with gnome-mplayer?
[11:13] <ElectroMotive> not yet
[11:13] <nirjhor> hi how to remove old skype ? since I have new skype4linux installed I want to remove the old package
[11:14] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: if you are satisfied with vlc, you could also let miss parole
[11:15] <ElectroMotive> well i use vlc all the time but i really didnt have a need for it on this particular system
[11:15] <ElectroMotive> a simple player would have sufficed
[11:16] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: then, make a test with players like parole
[11:16] <cristian_c> similar to parole
[11:16] <cristian_c> vlc is much different by that
[11:16] <ElectroMotive> yeah i know
[11:16] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 LTS sound not working from in-built speakers, but headphones are working fine
[11:17] <ElectroMotive> do they use parole on the standard ubuntu release or just on studio?
[11:17] <ikonia> what does that matter ?
[11:17] <ikonia> it's the same os
[11:17] <ElectroMotive> ikonia, i dont recall asking you
[11:18] <ducasse> ElectroMotive: parole is the xfce player
[11:18] <cristian_c> ElectroMotive: I believe parole is based on gstreamer
[11:18] <ikonia> it's a public channel, that whole point is that it's public, the quicker you drop the smart mouth attitude the quicker you'll get help
[11:18] <ikonia> ElectroMotive: you understand that ubuntu studio, ubuntu xubuntu and the others are the same core OS right ?
[11:18] <ElectroMotive> yeah i did not know it was DE dependent
[11:19] <cristian_c> so, you could try other gstreamer based players, so you can know if you reproduce the issue
[11:19] <ankit> any help
[11:19] <ikonia> saying "any help" is pointless
[11:19] <ElectroMotive> ikonia, for future reference albeit this channel is public dont think for one minute that i am ever asking for your help at all
[11:20] <cristian_c> ankit: check the sound settings (either pavucontrol if you're not using unity) and make a screen of alsamixer
[11:21] <ElectroMotive> so i get kicked for telling one person i dont want their help?
[11:21] <cristian_c> in order to know what chip you are using and what channels are present
[11:21] <redtuxedocash> is there any channel to talk about iphone issues?
[11:21] <YankDownUnder> Relax.
[11:21] <ducasse> !alis | redtuxedocash
[11:21] <ikonia> redtuxedocash: not here - as you've been told a few times, this channel is ubuntu, not your yellow pages of channel
[11:21] <YankDownUnder> redtuxedocash: you can try #MacOSX - there's helpful Mac-heads in there.
[11:23] <zerox_> ubuntu rocks
[11:23] <ankit> cristian_c http://imgur.com/a/7bXlb
[11:24] <cristian_c> ankit: have you also looked at sound settings / pavucontrol?
[11:25] <ankit> cristian_c yes but no luck
[11:25] <cristian_c> ankit: could you post a screen?
[11:26] <cristian_c> ankit: 16.04?
[11:26] <ducasse> ankit: have you tried if it works in windows?
[11:26] <ankit> ducasse: i have ubuntu only :(
[11:27] <astrill> can someone help me when i shut off my computer and hold shift my Grub menu wont open
[11:27] <ankit> cristian_c yes 16.04 LTS
[11:27] <multifractal> I took a photo of the dmesg when my laptop crashes at boot time. Can anyone think what is wrong here? https://imagebin.ca/v/2qjwhwlDN1Gq
[11:27] <ankit> cristian_c settings screen??
[11:27] <ducasse> ankit: i just wondered if it might not detect that the headphone connector is unplugged.
[11:27] <ElectroMotive> astrill, try to hold shift at boot
[11:27] <cristian_c> ankit: when have you installed 16.04?
[11:27] <cristian_c> ankit: sound settings screen
[11:28] <ankit> cristian_c i had upgraded to 16.04
[11:28] <astrill> Electromotive: I did that and it still wont Load up
[11:28] <cristian_c> ankit: then, try into live ubuntu session
[11:28] <ankit> cristian_c: http://imgur.com/a/5JD4i
[11:29] <cristian_c> ankit: using the ubuntu installation media and selecting 'try ubuntu without installing', then try the speaker while in the desktop
[11:29] <ankit> cristian_c: its not working in that case as well
[11:30] <ankit> ducasse: any idea??
[11:30] <cristian_c> ankit: are you using unity?
[11:30] <ElectroMotive> astrill, are you dual booting?
[11:30] <ankit> cristian_c: i don't know actually
[11:31] <ducasse> ankit: just the one i mentioned.
[11:31] <cristian_c> ankit: have ypu upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, and when?
[11:31] <astrill> ElectroMotive: no i turn on my computer and Hold shift and it just wont Open the Grub
[11:31] <ankit> cristian_c: yes upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04
[11:31] <cristian_c> ankit: what ubuntu .iso file have you got
[11:31] <cristian_c> ?
[11:32] <ducasse> astrill: try spamming shift instead of holding it. if that doesn't work try escape.
[11:32] <therue> with dual boot, i know it's better to install windows first then linux, but say i have a dual boot set up already, if i 'upgrade' my windows.. will it screw up my grub ? in addition i remember win10 changing my system to UEFI instead of BIOS and my linux set up via BIOS/MBR, what will happen if i upgrade my win7 to win10 and it fucks up with the mbr/bios and somehow change it to uefi ? :(
[11:32] <ankit> cristian_c: i downloaded iso file from ubuntu website
[11:32] <cristian_c> ankit: as said by ducasse, check the jack sensing
[11:32] <astrill> ducasse: ok ill try it the next time i black screen and turn off my computer
[11:32] <ankit> cristian_c: how to check jack sensing??
[11:32] <cristian_c> ankit: if headphone diaconnection is detected by sound settings manager
[11:33] <cristian_c> either alsamixer, top
[11:33] <cristian_c> too
[11:33] <ankit> cristian_c: yes sound settings detects disconnection of headphones
[11:33] <ducasse> ankit: have you tried other speakers?
[11:34] <ankit> ducasse: external speakers are working fine
[11:34] <ducasse> ankit: but not built-in?
[11:34] <ankit> ducasse: yes built-in not working :(
[11:35] <ducasse> ankit: what kind of machine?
[11:35] <cristian_c> ankit: I've asked what .iso file you have downloaded, not by what source you have downloaded it
[11:35] <ankit> cristian_c: ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:35] <cristian_c> ankit: ok, unity
[11:36] <ankit> cristian_c: how to check unity??
[11:36] <maarhart> anyone has experience in rooting and flashing a (Lenovo) in ubuntu?
[11:36] <ppf> hi. is it possible to get the groups of a running process?
[11:36] <cristian_c> ankit: you've got unity.
[11:36] <Cooler> my laptop running ubuntu 16.04.1
[11:37] <ankit> ducasse: hp pavillion dv4
[11:37] <cristian_c> ankit: you said you've upgraded from 15.10. but now you say you've downloaded 16.04 .iso
[11:37] <ankit> cristian_c: i have downloaded 16.04 iso file just to check speakers
[11:37] <cristian_c> ankit: ah, ok
[11:38] <PhoenixSTF> Hey guys, I have issue with L2TP over IPSEC in ubuntu 16.04, I have configured it manually but I cant get passed fase two, in 14.04 with openswan it worked, is there any way I can install openswan in 16.04?
[11:38] <cristian_c> ankit: in 15.10 built.in speakers are working?
[11:38] <ankit> cristian_c: yes
[11:38] <cristian_c> strange
[11:38] <Cooler> doesn't show charging after i plug it in
[11:39] <cristian_c> ankit: post exact model hp pavilion dv4
[11:39] <cristian_c> dv4 it's too much generic
[11:39] <ankit> cristian_c: how to check exact model??
[11:39] <ducasse> ankit: have you seen this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=984538
[11:39] <cristian_c> ankit: sudo lshw
[11:40] <cristian_c> !paste | if needed, ankit
[11:40] <astrill> ducasse: i did esc and the Grub popped up but i had to press tab  to see everything
[11:40] <ducasse> astrill: what do you mean by 'see everything'?
[11:41] <astrill> it was Purple and it said press tab to see list
[11:41] <ankit> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22565794/
[11:42] <astrill> ducasse: it was Purple and it said press tab to see list
[11:42] <ElectroMotive> seems legit
[11:42] <zerwas> I have an Apple Magic Trackpad on 16.04 and using synclient to set an option has no effect. Any ideas on what I might be missing here?
[11:43] <Cooler> can someone help
[11:43] <astrill> Cooler: what u neeed help with
[11:43] <ElectroMotive> cooler what make/model?
[11:43] <Cooler> my laptop isn't charging
[11:44] <ankit> ducasse: that i tried but not working that
[11:44] <astrill> Cooler: do u have it plugged in to the wall lol
[11:44] <Cooler> it charges after it goes to sleep after 5 mins
[11:44] <Cooler> and after i unlock it
[11:45] <astrill> Cooler: try going in to setting and turning off sleep mode
[11:45] <Cooler> or i do a restart by booting into windows first and then restarting into ubuntu
[11:45] <anmisto> could be hardware thing?
[11:45] <Cooler> this is the model http://www.acer.com/ac/en/IN/content/model/NX.MVMSI.035
[11:46] <Cooler> it came with win 10 x64 preinstalled
[11:46] <Cooler> and then i installed ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[11:46] <ankit> cristian_c: any idea
[11:47] <ducasse> ankit: did you see the last post on page 5?
[11:48] <ankit> ducasse: page 5??
[11:48] <ducasse> ankit: yes, on the link i gave you.
[11:50] <ankit> ducasse: i m checking that
[11:51] <Dread_> hi
[11:51] <multifractal> Can anyone help me with this boot crashing problem it's crazy
[11:52] <multifractal> I took a photo of the log when it's crashing: https://imagebin.ca/v/2qjwhwlDN1Gq
[12:00] <ankit> ** (gedit:4386): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: Setting attribute metadata::gedit-position not supported
[12:00] <ankit> getting such error while using gedit from terminal
[12:00] <ankit> how to get rid of these errors??
[12:01] <zerox_> ankit use vim instead of gedit
[12:01] <zerox_> or nano
[12:02] <ducasse> ankit: it's not an error, it's just a warning. does sound work now?
[12:02] <ankit> ducasse: can we remove these warning?
[12:02] <OerHeks> ankit, those are warnings, and are normal, when you open gedit from comandline
[12:03] <OerHeks> or any gtk program with a gui
[12:03] <ankit> OerHeks: can we remove these warning?
[12:03] <OerHeks> no
[12:03] <ducasse> ankit: sure, get the developers to fix it. they don't really matter, so just ignore them.
[12:04] <ankit> ducasse: i tried that solution for sound. Still sound not working.
[12:04] <OerHeks> no developer would accept it as a bug
[12:04] <zerox_> lol
[12:05] <Madhu__> Hi Ducasse: How are you?
[12:05] <ankit> how to fix sound issue??
[12:05] <ducasse> hi, Madhu__
[12:05] <ducasse> ankit: if that didn't work i have no idea.
[12:06] <ankit> ducasse: ok no problem. thanks for your help
[12:06] <OerHeks> ankit, did you logout/login or reboot after that options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1??
[12:06] <OerHeks> or restarted alsa?
[12:07] <ankit> OerHeks: i reboot the machine
[12:07] <Madhu__> Ducasse: My friend is buying HP Server ML350p with V1 Processor and RAID 5 CONFIG.  Is it right config  our Ubuntu
[12:08] <Madhu__> Ducasse : MP350p G8 Server
[12:08] <ikonia> right for what ?
[12:08] <ankit> OerHeks: any idea??
[12:08] <apex_lurker> 1
[12:10] <Madhu__> It means.  Is it good config to install Ubuntu 12,14, & 16 version inn RAID 5
[12:11] <OerHeks> ankit, on the last page #5 they give hp-dv5, try options snd_hda_intel model=hp-m4
[12:11] <ankit> OerHeks: okay let me do that. should I reboot machine??
[12:11] <OerHeks> but tons of posts clain options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 should work
[12:11] <OerHeks> c/claim
[12:15] <cristian_c> ankit: paste into pastebin the .conf file, too
[12:15] <cristian_c> !paste
[12:16] <ankit> cristian_c: which .conf file??
[12:17] <ankit> cristian_c: can you please give me the path of .conf file??
[12:17] <OerHeks> "A guy added options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 to a new file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf to get the laptop's internal speakers to work,"  http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/sound_troubleshooting.htm#exotic_stuff_and_rumors
[12:18] <OerHeks> there you go, full path
[12:18] <ankit> OerHeks: i can also give it a try
[12:20] <cristian_c> ankit: /etc/modprobe.d
[12:20] <cristian_c> there is an alsa conf file
[12:21] <ankit> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22568659/
[12:25] <clone> hi
[12:25] <clone> anyone?
[12:25] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[12:25] <ducasse> !ask | clone
[12:26] <clone> thanks
[12:26] <Seveas> !info pypy wily
[12:26] <ankit> cristian_c: any idea
[12:28] <ducasse> ankit: i'm starting to wonder if the internal speakers are just broken...
[12:29] <jland252007> Hello all
[12:29] <OerHeks> ankit, i want to see if the hp-m4 option works, you used hp-dv5 now.
[12:29] <OerHeks> if that hp-m4 does not work, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[12:30] <ankit> ducasse: how we can check internal speakers are broken or not??
[12:31] <ducasse> ankit: try what OerHeks suggests
[12:32] <ankit> ducasse: ok let me change model no to hp-m4
[12:33] <allitseasy> hi
[12:36] <WindTaLkeR> napıyorsunu la
[12:36] <phutse> Q
[12:36] <OerHeks> hi WindTaLkeR, english only please
[12:36] <WindTaLkeR> o yes allright
[12:37] <phutse> How to install Android apps in Ubuntu
[12:37] <WindTaLkeR> how are you guys
[12:37] <cristian_c> # options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 options snd-usb-audio index=-2 options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 options snd_hda_intel model=hp-dv5
[12:37] <ikonia> phutse: you don't
[12:37] <ubuntu-mate> skype for linux alpha is the new one with the new ui
[12:37] <phutse> Ok
[12:37] <cristian_c> uhm, ankit out, sorry
[12:37] <ubuntu-mate> but it ain't updated
[12:37] <phutse> Any distribution for android
[12:37] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: microsoft has pretty much killed
[12:37] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: microsoft has pretty much killed skype on linux
[12:37] <ikonia> phutse: "android"
[12:38] <phutse> So none
[12:38] <OerHeks> why would there be, phutse ?
[12:38] <ubuntu-mate> their actually making a new update to make the ui look more like the mac and windows version
[12:38] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: the push is on the web interface
[12:38] <ikonia> the client is pretty much dead
[12:41] <phutse> How can I change my nicknme
[12:41] <ikonia>  /nick new_name
[12:41] <Cooler> how do you install jdk
[12:41] <Cooler> ?
[12:41] <ikonia> open the package manager, search for java, find the jdk you want, click install
[12:42] <Cooler> audo apt-get install openjdk-9-jdk gave an error
[12:42] <ikonia> Cooler: https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <Cooler> sudo*
[12:42] <ikonia> Cooler: that will explain how to use the packge manager at a basic level
[12:42] <Cooler> Errors were encountered while processing
[12:42] <OerHeks> ubuntu-mate, ms provided a web-app package https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34656/more-information-about-skype-for-linux-alpha
[12:43] <Cooler> E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:43] <ikonia> Cooler: you'd just giving random error lines, thats no use
[12:44] <Cooler> ikonia, try the line i typed
[12:44] <ikonia> Cooler: no
[12:44] <Cooler> sudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jdk gave an error
[12:44] <Cooler> sudo apt-get install openjdk-9-jdk
[12:44] <ikonia> pastebin the full error output
[12:46] <OerHeks> and on what ubuntu version ? it is available on 16.04
[12:46] <Cooler> 16.04.1 LTS
[12:47] <Cooler> pastebin.com/N1kskRkj
[12:47] <Cooler> ikonia, ^
[12:47] <OerHeks> oh, the IN mirror is way behind
[12:47] <OerHeks> known issue, holliday time on the uni
[12:48] <ikonia> Cooler: so you have a file that conflicts as it's from too packages
[12:48] <ikonia> Cooler: you've already got the jdk installed from the headless package
[12:49] <Cooler> uh
[12:49] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-9/+bug/1571435
[12:50] <whoami_0001> hi all computer heroe
[12:50] <X-tonic> Is btrfs a stable enough to use as a fs for `/` and everything else?
[12:51] <Cooler> ikonia, pastebin.com/bb7Wkv9w
[12:51] <ikonia> X-tonic: depends on your needs
[12:51] <ikonia> Cooler: you keep giving useless information with no context
[12:51] <ikonia> Cooler: I don't know what thats from, what you are doing or anything
[12:52] <soLucien> is there any builtin hash function in ubuntu ?
[12:52] <Cooler> i am trying to install run eclipse
[12:52] <Cooler> eclipse gives that error message
[12:52] <ikonia> Cooler: so you probably have to point it at where the jvm / jdk is
[12:53] <stokbaek> Hey, hope anyone can help with this bind I have caught myself in
[12:53] <ikonia> stokbaek: no idea until you tell us the problem
[12:53] <whoami_0001> what's the problem ?
[12:53] <stokbaek> I did a kernel upgrade on my system and my media shares permissions is this now: d????????? ? ? ? ?
[12:54] <ikonia> stokbaek: seems very unlikely that is anything to do with the kernel
[12:54] <ikonia> stokbaek: what version of ubuntu
[12:54] <stokbaek> if I do chmod and chown with verbose on is it showing the right permissions
[12:54] <stokbaek> its 16.04
[12:54] <ikonia> stokbaek: what kernel did you install
[12:55] <stokbaek> went back to 4.4.0-28-generic
[12:55] <stokbaek> think it was 32 I installed
[12:55] <ikonia> so all standard from the ubuntu repos
[12:55] <stokbaek> yup
[12:55] <whoami_0001> user@user:~$ superuser >> sudo
[12:55] <ikonia> whoami_0001: what ??
[12:55] <Cooler> ikonia, uh theres now 2 folders
[12:55] <whoami_0001> sudo permission ?
[12:55] <ikonia> stokbaek: are the shares, shares you mount from another machine, or shares that you share from your current machine
[12:56] <Cooler> in /usr/lib/jvm/
[12:56] <ikonia> whoami_0001: sudo permissions ? what
[12:56] <whoami_0001> ok!
[12:56] <Cooler> java-1.9.0-openjdk-amd64 and java-9-openjdk-amd64
[12:56] <stokbaek> its a lvm raid6 on the saver that is doing smb share to other machines
[12:56] <stokbaek> server *
[12:56] <ikonia> stokbaek: ok, so you're sharing them out, not mounting them remote
[12:56] <Cooler> which one do i set with export JAVA_HOME=
[12:56] <ikonia> stokbaek: what is the path to one of these shares
[12:57] <ikonia> Cooler: if you can't work out what JAVA_HOME for your IDE is, you won't be able to use the IDE, so I suggest you start reading the basics
[12:57] <X-tonic> ikonia, I wanted a relative stable system for personal usage. However, in my previous attempts when I tried to install `/` in btrfs, it led to basic booting problems. I was wondering if those are now a thing of the past.
[12:57] <ikonia> X-tonic: why do you want btrfs
[12:57] <ikonia> X-tonic: you don't seem to be following it in terms of it's use/stability, so why do you even want it
[12:58] <stokbaek> what do you mean with path. The folder is physical on the server, others connect to it via smb
[12:58] <ikonia> stokbaek: ok, what is the path of one of the shares on the server file system
[12:59] <stokbaek> ikonia, /var/media is where the share lies
[12:59] <Cooler> ikonia, i was following the steps here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14788345/how-to-install-jdk-on-ubuntu-linux
[12:59] <ikonia> stokbaek: ok, so can you pastebin the output of "ls -la /var/media" please
[12:59] <ikonia> Cooler: so ?
[12:59] <Cooler> which version do i set?
[12:59] <Cooler> java-1.9.0-openjdk-amd64 or java-9-openjdk-amd64
[12:59] <Cooler> both folders are in /usr/lib/jvm
[12:59] <ikonia> Cooler: I told you, if you don't now what java_home to set - you won't be able to use the IDE, so start reading the basics of setting up eclipse and the basis of using java
[13:00] <stokbaek> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/AuXPzN9H
[13:00] <ikonia> Cooler: if I have to tell you how and what to set java_home, you are not at a level where you can use the IDE
[13:00] <Cooler> what?
[13:00] <X-tonic> ikonia, I followed some benchmarks which suggested btrfs to be better than ext4, and the future, and I see a lot of it's mention in kernel changelogs. That interests me to try it on my system.
[13:00] <Cooler> i thought the latest jdk was 8
[13:00] <Cooler> but linux apparently has jdk 9
[13:00] <ikonia> X-tonic: you won't see visual performance improvements as a home user
[13:01] <ikonia> X-tonic: just use ext4
[13:01] <Cooler> and i am not sure what 1.9.0 is
[13:01] <ikonia> Cooler: then don't use it
[13:01] <ikonia> stokbaek: ok, so can you do "sudo ls -la /var/media" please and put it in a pastebin
[13:02] <Cooler> also is the jdk se only or does it include java ee apis?
[13:02] <ikonia> depends on the package
[13:02] <stokbaek> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/vkcFc5sf
[13:03] <ikonia> stokbaek: ok - so that looks fine, it looks like you're using access lists that are blocking non-root users from being able to se the permissions
[13:04] <ikonia> stokbaek: see the + sign "drwxr--r--+" on your /var/media dir, you've put an access list on it
[13:04] <stokbaek> ikonia, hmm wierd, dont think I ever played around with acl
[13:04] <ikonia> stokbaek: someone has somewhere
[13:04] <Cooler> ikonia, the tje openjdk 9 is the version that gave that error though
[13:04] <stokbaek> ikonia, so I just have to remove the acl then?
[13:04] <ikonia> Cooler: ok ?
[13:04] <Cooler> when i tried to sudo apt-get install
[13:05] <ikonia> Cooler: yes, and I told you why
[13:05] <Cooler> so should i use 1.9.0 instead
[13:05] <ikonia> stokbaek: I'd first view the access list, see what's set, but yes, you'll probably end up removing it as you won't need it
[13:07] <stokbaek> ikonia, hmm acl package isn't even installed on the system
[13:07] <ikonia> there is an acl there
[13:07] <stokbaek> oh found it
[13:09] <Cooler> so should i use 1.9.0 instead?
[13:10] <ikonia> it's up to you
[13:15] <Cooler> pastebin.com./kxaia9hr
[13:16] <Cooler> pastebin.com/kxaia9hr
[13:16] <Cooler> eclipse is giving that error after i set the JAVA_HOME and PATH to openjdk-9-jdk
[13:17] <Cooler> and also after i set it to 1.9.0
[13:23] <Madhu__> Hi Adroit
[13:24] <adroit_machine> hello Madhu__
[13:25] <Madhu__> Please give me which one will support for  ubuntu in ML350p G8 server
[13:25] <ikonia> which one of what ?
[13:28] <ducasse> Madhu__: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14183/
[13:28] <stokbaek> ikonia, I removed the acl on the folders now, but still cant see them without sudo. Does it require a reboot?
[13:35] <OerHeks> HP provides a driver for the gen 8 platform, trusty as latest https://launchpad.net/~hp-iss-team/+archive/ubuntu/hp-storage and https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/ubuntu-hpdsa/
[13:35] <OerHeks> so i guess 14.04 Madhu__
[13:39] <Madhu__> Ducasse : In the url showing e5-v2 server but ml350p g8 is e5-v1 server.
[13:40] <OerHeks> maybe that v1 is not certified, and the drivers won't work: then AHCI and softraid is your option
[13:46] <Tachikomas> Hi. I run somes troubles with networking after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.1 on ubuntu server x64. The system boot, but dont want to use network. I have the following error message :
[13:46] <Tachikomas> [FAILED] Failed to start Raise network interfaces.
[13:46] <Tachikomas> Any idea ?
[14:03] <stokbaek> ikonia, thanks for the help. All is working again :)
[14:03] <Gorulay>  Know this is not an ubuntu issue, but having several restarts and if i wait 30 minutes I get the system starting. What to do? Would appreciate some advice.
[14:05] <bhavesh> I got these errors on doing sudo apt-get update and upgrade: http://pastebin.com/NPGbyKFr
[14:05] <bhavesh> how do I solve?
[14:07] <OerHeks> bhavesh, try to remove the lists and load them again:  sudo rm -vf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[14:07] <skinux> I'm trying to remember the name of the best music making software...?
[14:08] <skinux> Is it LMMS?
[14:08] <nooooooob> hi
[14:08] <OerHeks> skinux, there is no single best, check out the packages of ubuntu-studio
[14:08] <skinux> Yeah..that was it
[14:09] <skinux> The thing about LMMS, I've only been able to find the drum (beat) instrument and the piano.
[14:10] <skinux> I'm looking to make hip-hop and rock type music. I need guitar and some other sounds.
[14:11] <amschel> HI¡
[14:12] <nooooooob> hi guys nmap is not working in new ubantu this is error any soulotion route_dst_netlink: cannot bind AF_NETLINK socket: Invalid argument
[14:12] <ikonia> another kid trying to nmap his school or something...
[14:12] <ikonia> stokbaek: glad you're working
[14:12] <nooooooob> nop my iwn network
[14:12] <traubisoda_> hi everyone
[14:12] <nooooooob> own
[14:13] <bhavesh> OerHeks: I tried that, workes, thanks.
[14:13] <OerHeks> bhavesh, have fun
[14:13] <traubisoda_> if I use "route add ..." command, how can I make the result persistent, so it won't change after I reboot?
[14:13] <bhavesh> works*
[14:14] <lordcirth> nooooooob, you're not on Ubuntu On Windows, are you?  That's a current bug there.
[14:14] <nooooooob> yes i am :D
[14:14] <nooooooob> on windows 10
[14:14] <Gorulay> My computer keeps restarting, have tried Ubuntu and Windows and no solve. If I wait 40 min I get the computer going, how to solve?
[14:14] <lordcirth> nooooooob, not supported here.  However, it's a known bug and it's being worked on.
[14:15] <traubisoda_> Gorgulay maybe it's overheating?
[14:15] <nooooooob> thank you @lordcirth
[14:15] <lordcirth> Gorulay, instant reboot with no warning?  Sounds like power supply.
[14:15] <lordcirth> instant shutdown would be overheat, normally, but check both
[14:15] <lordcirth> #hardware may help
[14:16] <Gorulay> lordcirth, I have a 1 year old computer, Acer Aspire Nitro V 17. I mean, something to clean in the computer, dust?
[14:16] <nooooooob> @lordcirth will aircrack-ng work ?
[14:16] <OerHeks> nooooooob, this is not windows support.
[14:16] <Guest85172> ciao
[14:16] <ikonia> yeah, aricrack-ng is wht you need to scan your home network....honestly.
[14:17] <Guest85172> \list
[14:17] <nooooooob> what is wrong with you @ikonia
[14:17] <nooooooob> it is just a tool
[14:17] <Guest85172> !list
[14:19] <__raven> hi
[14:19] <Animu> hey guys, i have a little problem with running my script, it does execute without superuser permissions, but when i try to use it with su it seems to can't find the script, any clue what could cause that ?
[14:20] <ikonia> you don't use su
[14:22] <Animu> but in this script i check if user has su permissions, and if yes then show some info, how to use it then ?
[14:22] <lordcirth> Animu, are you calling the script locally or from PATH?
[14:22] <lordcirth> Animu, sudo
[14:22] <Animu> from path, but i loaded it correctly as im able to call it without superuser
[14:22] <lordcirth> Animu, but is it in root's path?
[14:23] <__raven> i want to connect to a bluetooth audio device (BCM2046B1) with ubuntu 16.04 but i am not able to make it work: "blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available..." http://pastebin.com/QXU1rV4a any ideas to solve that?
[14:23] <SchrodingersScat> what are the script permissions?
[14:23] <Animu> yeah i meant with using sudo it doesnt work
[14:23] <lordcirth> Animu, You probably didn't put it in root's path.
[14:23] <Animu> root have different PATH than the one in .profile ?
[14:24] <ikonia> where is the file
[14:24] <Animu> SchrodingersScat if you mean if it's executable then yeah
[14:24] <lordcirth> Animu, every user has a PATH, that's why it's set in your user directory.
[14:24] <Gorulay> lordcirth, Have any suggestion where I start? I see nothing on my screen on startup, just the keyboard lighting on and off like it restarts.
[14:24] <Animu> home/<username>/bin   so i assumed that it would be okay if i try to run it with sudo on that profile
[14:25] <SchrodingersScat> Animu: no, that's specific to <username>
[14:25] <lordcirth> Gorulay, #hardware
[14:25] <Gorulay> lordcirth, thanks, will go there.
[14:25] <Animu> so when I use sudo even on a specific profile then im really using root profile ?
[14:26] <ikonia> no
[14:26] <ikonia> you are using an elevated privilege
[14:30] <Animu> but even then i still should be able to use the su privilege with sudo, right ? to check i use simple [ "$(id -u)" = "0" ]
[14:31] <Animu> here is full script: http://pastebin.com/nuKfnYBn
[14:31] <Gourlay> lordcirth, I get this message when attempting to write at #hardware: ##hardware :Cannot send to channel.
[14:32] <rypervenche> Animu: How many users do you have on your machine?
[14:32] <Animu> only me, system fresh after reinstalling
[14:33] <rypervenche> Animu: Then change the script and remove the "su" part.
[14:33] <rypervenche> Animu: No need for su in the script.
[14:33] <rypervenche> Animu: And no need for sudo.
[14:37] <Animu> rypervenche: i'm just following tutorial which says that home_space function needs superuser to examine the size of each user's home directory
[14:38] <rypervenche> Animu: It does not. That is only needed if you need to see all users' home directories, and even then that is not likely.
[14:38] <OerHeks> Gourlay, read the whole message, maybe you need to register with #freenode?
[14:38] <OerHeks> !register
[14:39] <Gourlay> !register
[14:39] <OerHeks> no no, you can read it already
[14:41] <SchrodingersScat> rypervenche: would miss a couple directories you normally don't have permissions for with other users, .cache i think for example.
[14:42] <Animu> rypervenche: yeah that was the case to look up all users (omitting that currently i'm the only one) and it in fact really doesn't need superuser, but that doesn't explain why on sudo it can't find my scripts ?
[14:43] <ikonia> Animu: show me EXACTLY how you call your script
[14:44] <Animu> sudo sysinfo_page > sysinfo_page.html
[14:44] <ikonia> Animu: from what directory ?
[14:44] <Animu> ikonia: Desktop currently, but without sudo it works fine
[14:45] <ikonia> Animu: what is the location of the script
[14:45] <SchrodingersScat> Animu: thought we solved this, you have it in your ~/bin
[14:45] <rypervenche> SchrodingersScat: But he only has one user, so it's all good. And ~/.cache is 775 for me. The only files he would miss on other users would probably be ~/.ssh and the like. Not likely to change a lot in terms of used space.
[14:45] <Animu> ikonia: location is /home/<username>/bin
[14:46] <ikonia> Animu: so apply some logic
[14:46] <ikonia> Animu: it's in your home directory - it's not in roots path
[14:46] <ikonia> sudo /home/<username>/bin/script_name
[14:46] <SchrodingersScat> rypervenche: on my system makes the difference of 64K without sudo, 376K with sudo, huuuge difference.
[14:47] <akik> rypervenche: you can't expect all user dirs to be open for everyone
[14:47] <rypervenche> SchrodingersScat: But you're still talking about more than one user. We are not.
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> rypervenche: afaik this is homework, so probably better to fit to the question ;(
[14:49] <rypervenche> akik: This is a script that he is trying to run for his user only. No need for root in his script. But, that's enough talk about this.
[14:49] <Animu> ikonia: ohh i think i get it now then, thanks for help :) and sorry for causing problems
[14:49] <Animu> thank you all guys for your help and time :)
[14:53] <irshad> hi
[14:56] <ubuntu__> I have registered on freenode but how do I get it to recognize me? Want to connect to #hardware, but what settings to connect? Using HexChat.
[14:57] <etronik> Hi all, by ubuntu 14.04 (LTS) hit a spot of bother and I need your help to restore it to working order, it reaches the login screen, I authenticate correctly, it briefly flickers something, then gets me back at the login prompt - I went to a text based console, now what? TIA
[14:57] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, ask for help in #freenode.
[14:58] <etronik> This problem started suddendly after a perfectly working system... the only seetings related change was something about the Secure Boot vs UEFI boot
[14:58] <OerHeks> etronik, check out this page for possible solutions, http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[14:59] <OerHeks> oh, that is a totally different problem ..
[14:59] <etronik> OerHeks: tks, checking it out
[15:26] <mikatone> Hi after install bind my resolv.conf says DO NOT EDIT... where shoul I place domain name and search parameters ?
[15:26] <mikatone> *should
[15:28] <etronik> where does one tur OFF secure boot ?
[15:28] <everson> Hi all. I have a web cam - lsusb returns "Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Vista IM" - which I am trying to install on 14.04 - it doesn't work plug-and-play. Any help would be appreciated. Busy googling to see what I can find. I am a novice at Ubuntu
[15:28] <etronik> where does one turn OFF secure boot ?
[15:28] <everson> (I tried running cheese to see if it works out the box, it doesn't unfortunately)
[15:30] <reloafaa> hi
[15:30] <reloafaa> how do i load preload into the system again? to speed up ubuntu?
[15:31] <reloafaa> sysctl.conf?
[15:36] <waddupglitchmob> Hi people, when I login sometimes the dash and menubar get all glitched up like this: https://img42.com/ihyP2+  If I click anything in the glitched area it suddenly looks normal. How can I troubleshoot this?
[15:36] <waddupglitchmob> Wow I just noticed that the icons you see are from the previous logged in user.
[15:37] <waddupglitchmob> So it seems to hang in the previous session or something...
[15:37] <Guest73655> which graphics card?
[15:37] <vladimir> you can change user in the top right corner
[15:38] <reloafaa> waddupglitchmob: is nvidia your graphics card??
[15:39] <waddupglitchmob> Guest73655: reloafaa: I'm using the Nvidia GTX 750Ti
[15:39] <waddupglitchmob> *GeForce
[15:40] <jatt> which driver?
[15:41] <waddupglitchmob> jatt: the 'NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361'
[15:45] <bmintz> yo! i turned on fcitx after installing Chinese (Simplified) but when i type the only characters entered are the first in the list and I can't see the input box that lets me select a character to input
[15:45] <bmintz> wat do
[15:52] <bmintz> wow so many part messages
[15:52] <waddupglitchmob> yeah
[15:53] <waddupglitchmob> jatt: so any ideas?
[15:53] <bmintz> idk i'm wondering as wekk
[15:53] <bmintz> *well lol
[15:55] <dyc3> hey guys
[15:56] <dyc3> im on Ubuntu 16.04, and im trying to build i3lock-color ( https://github.com/Arcaena/i3lock-color ) but it fails with http://pastebin.com/XhAkvmaQ I have installed the dependencies listed on the github page, however i noticed that i installed a "xkbcommon0" instead of "xkbcommon". any suggestions?
[15:57] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: What is the issue again ? ( just re-joined) . Considered : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/105343/en-us ?
[15:58] <ducasse> dyc3: you most likely need libxkbcommon-dev
[15:58] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om:  when I login sometimes the dash and menubar get all glitched up like this: https://img42.com/ihyP2+  If I click anything in the glitched area it suddenly looks normal. How can I troubleshoot this?
[15:59] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: I'm using one of the latest Nvidia binary drivers
[15:59] <bmintz> so any ideas for this fcitx issue?
[15:59] <Sutliff707> I am having trouble getting smartmontools to send me email reports after completing tests, Anyone willing to help
[16:00] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: The nvidia driver loaded ? what returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? of interest is the configuration line .
[16:01] <dyc3> ducasse, thanks, that worked
[16:01] <OerHeks> bmintz, maybe the ubuntu-cn channel is more of a help
[16:01] <bmintz> ok thanks :)
[16:04] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: idk what to look for but this is the output: http://pastebin.com/r2fG9utu
[16:07] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: " configuration: driver=nvidia  " so the driver did load .. next qustion to answer is did it build properly .. we can look at the log file to see: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[16:09] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: alright: http://pastebin.com/raw/18WHjBJ9
[16:09] <waddupglitchmob> thanks for helping me with troubleshooting :)  I wouldn't come up with all these things myself
[16:09] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: reading. I will be awhile .
[16:13] <tachyons> https://paste.gnome.org/plptyztk7
[16:13] <tachyons> any fix for this ?
[16:13] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: What is up with the boot parameter " iommu=soft "  ? Why do you think you need it ?
[16:13] <tachyons> XmbTextListToTextProperty result code -2
[16:13] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: I did need to add it otherwise my PC wouldn't boot
[16:14] <OerHeks> tachyons, what were you trying to do? you didn't copy the comand
[16:14] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: correction, it did boot up with a lot of error messages
[16:14] <OerHeks> such gtk errors are usually normal, if you start a gui program from terminal
[16:15] <Sutliff707> I am not getting smartmontools email reports, my email server is setup correctly. can someone help?
[16:15] <tachyons> OerHeks:  Oops , Sorry . I thought this is ubuntu snappy channel . Question was about snappy packaging issue
[16:15] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:17] <OerHeks> Sutliff707, if you don't find an answer here, there is also #ubuntu-server
[16:21] <rgl> I'm having trouble trying to match a dhcpd host by UUID. I though it was enough to do option dhcp-client-identifier 00:00:00:00:00:00:40:00:80:00:00:00:00:00:00:02; ... but NO! I've also tried https://gist.github.com/rgl/35d682d97f9a1124e8755714d1c630af but none works... can you help?
[16:23] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: While I am dithering .. I would also like to see the display log . ' cat .xsession-errors ' to a pastebin, please .
[16:26] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: alright, it's very short: http://pastebin.com/raw/TYt5RDSs
[16:27] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: there is a file with almost the same name '.xsession-errors.old': http://pastebin.com/raw/UPwLSLQW
[16:28] <OerHeks> what nvidiadriver did you load for that ti750, waddupglitchmob
[16:29] <waddupglitchmob> OerHeks: using the 'NVIDIA binary driver - version 361.42 from nvidia-361'
[16:30] <waddupglitchmob> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 btw.
[16:30] <OerHeks> oke, that driver should work.
[16:31]  * Seriusam ho
[16:31] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Well .. the .xsessions log / not so good huh > .. Do you have authorization from the display manager ? ' cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log '
[16:31] <waddupglitchmob> If I were to try and describe the problem: it seems like right after logging in the dash and top bar are not being rendered and/or using an old frame as you can see the apps from the previously logged in user. When I click something in the bar and I think thus trigger a 'refresh' it suddenly looks normal.
[16:31] <mariooliveira> Hi.chrome from time  to time stalls my old laptop. i belive its memory overload. my laptop has 1g ram. whats the best way to limit memory  and cpu usage?
[16:32] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: what do you mean with 'not so good'? Also I need to use sudo to do the last command.
[16:34] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: here is the output though: http://pastebin.com/raw/6fcffRuT
[16:34] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: the ":0" is your display .
[16:35] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: oh I need to eat in 5 minutes :|
[16:37] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: K, on eating .. we still be here .. Is this a valid user " username 'selwyn' " on your system ? as we have " DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication " !
[16:38] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: alright great! :) That is a valid user indeed
[16:38] <waddupglitchmob> Maybe I mistyped my password once?
[16:39] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Do not know, yet .. still reading, look'n and thin'n .
[16:48] <dupondje> https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/edgemax/EdgeSwitch_ES-48_QSG.pdf crashes in evince for others also? :)
[16:49] <dupondje> page 7-8 for example
[16:55] <squinty> dupondje,  crashes here too.  foxit (linux version) has no problems reading that particular pdf
[16:55] <dupondje> ok :) thx
[16:56] <kevank> I have an ubuntu 16.04 server running both KVM domains and LXC containers.  I'm having strange issues with network connectivity "hanging" on the domains and containers.  The bridge is routed...  the hosting company is forwarding the /27 to the host servers IP and routing is enabled.  There is no firewall defined on the host.
[16:56] <kevank> I'm looking for some suggestions on where to look.
[16:59] <rajat> is anyone able to access outlook.com from firefox??
[17:00] <squinty> rajat,  no problem bringing up the logon page here, fwiw
[17:00] <Amara> any news about when 14.04 will get linux 4.4, wiki say it should have happened on 1 august.
[17:03] <bmintz> recommended media manager app with search?
[17:04] <bmintz> *online search
[17:16] <fsociety> hello
[17:16] <bmintz> fsociety nice name
[17:17] <Guest20471> thanks
[17:17] <Guest20471> where do you come from?
[17:17] <Seriusam> lol
[17:17] <Seriusam> I just watched Mr.Robot and saw this
[17:17] <Seriusam> You pulled my attention sir, congz
[17:18] <fsociety> lol
[17:18] <bmintz> stop that
[17:18] <Guest24271> i inspired by thats movie
[17:18] <bmintz> ./nick samsepi0ol
[17:18] <bmintz> ./nick samsepi0l
[17:18] <bmintz> not a movie?
[17:19] <bmintz> no fsociety is better
[17:20] <bmintz> why add 404
[17:20] <bmintz> is fsociety taken?
[17:20] <fsociety404> i guest..
[17:20] <fsociety404> okey i'll tried
[17:21] <fsociety404> "fsociety" already taken..
[17:30] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[17:30] <ubuntu-mate> anyone
[17:30] <ubuntu-mate> there
[17:31] <squinty> !ask
[17:32] <reevv> !patience
[17:32] <G66K> hello everyone
[17:33] <ubuntu-mate> i am little bit confused in ubuntu mate and xfce. any one recommend me with specific reason
[17:33] <G66K> im having a little problem here, when i copy file to /var/www/html its take the root:root permission how to prevent that and keep file with the www-data:www-data permission
[17:34] <ubuntu-mate> @g66k change permission of html dir or make a link in your home directory
[17:35] <G66K> ubuntu-mate: should i change that everytime i copy file or dir ?
[17:35] <G66K> i need a fix way to solve this
[17:35] <ubuntu-mate> so make link of folder ..its better.
[17:36] <ubuntu-mate> are you using apache server
[17:36] <G66K> ubuntu-mate: yes
[17:36] <ubuntu-mate> donot install...download whole server and extract in home directory
[17:36] <eduardas> test
[17:36] <ubuntu-mate> and run server by command or make path of it in bin
[17:37] <Bashing-om> !test | eduardas
[17:39] <WindTaLkeR> is there anybody ?
[17:39] <WindTaLkeR> i want to ask a question about ubuntu
[17:39] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[17:40] <Bashing-om> !ask | WindTaLkeR
[17:40] <OerHeks> G66K, normally one would add the user to the www-data group, to copy files and acess without hassle
[17:40] <srk_> help! my ctrl button suddenly stops working when i restart my pc it starts work normally ( OS : ubuntu 16.04 lts)
[17:40] <OneM_Industries> How do I search for a document that was created/modified on a certain date?
[17:41] <OneM_Industries> I do not know what it is named, nor do I know where it is located, but I do know when it was created, so if I can search for a document by that, that would be great.
[17:42] <WindTaLkeR> i writing to terminal iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor then the terminal says me a error
[17:43] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: hey I'm back =)
[17:43] <WindTaLkeR> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[17:43] <WindTaLkeR>     SET failed on device wlp7s0 ; Operation not supported.
[17:43] <WindTaLkeR>  how can i fix it
[17:44] <WindTaLkeR> anybody can help me about issue
[17:45] <OerHeks> seems like your wifi is not Wlan0 but wlp7s0, this is the new 'predictable interface naming'
[17:45] <srk_> help! my ctrl button suddenly stops working when i restart my pc it starts work normally ( OS : ubuntu 16.04 lts)
[17:45] <bmintz> onem_industries you may have luck with the find command and -newerBt <see -d option of gnu date>
[17:46] <OerHeks> and monitor mode, that depends on the device and driver...
[17:46] <bmintz> !patience | srk_
[17:46] <idoko> OneM_Industries: how about using find with the -mtime flag?
[17:46] <bmintz> i think they want to search by creation time
[17:46] <kevank> I thought my issue with the network was lxc and/or kvm but it looks like routing in general.  I have a public ethernet interface with a subnet statically routed to the public ip.   A dummy interface on the server with an IP from the subnet on it.  Routing is enabled for ipv4.  I can ssh into the public address and the subnet address remotely but performance on the subnet addess (routed) is really poor and on the public address it is as expected.
[17:46] <kevank>  The firewall is disabled....  any suggestions?
[17:46] <OerHeks>  idoko +1 -mtime or -ctime
[17:46] <docmur> I made some LXC containers on Ubuntu 16.04 and then moved them to a Ubuntu 14.04 box, when I try to start them I get: http://pastie.org/10932483
[17:46] <OneM_Industries> Yep, trying that now, thank you.
[17:47] <kevank> This is on 16.04
[17:47] <WindTaLkeR> my wifi is wlp7s0 . yes it's right but i cant fix it i did everything seriously . is it a device problem ?
[17:49] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Not much smarter now than when you went to eat . Is this a lap top ? And have you looked in bios at the IOMMU options ?
[17:49] <OerHeks> WindTaLkeR, device OR driver problem. i think the #kali channels are up2date with such list.
[17:50] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: hmm no it's not a laptop. And the IOMMU settings aren't related I think. I only put it on soft so it doesn't spew 100 lines of errors about AMD-Vi when I boot, and I'm using an AMD processor
[17:50] <eduardas> Sorry, it's test
[17:51] <OerHeks> pm
[17:51] <OerHeks> !pm | WindTaLkeR
[17:52] <WindTaLkeR> i can ask now
[17:52] <WindTaLkeR> right?
[17:54] <bmintz> i think if it's been half an hour plus and your question has been scrolled into oblivion by others chatting, then yes it's appropriate
[17:54] <bmintz> but if there's enough scrollback that we can all se your question in the first place, keep waiting
[17:54] <bmintz> this isn't customer service, nobody has an obligation to help
[17:54] <bmintz> if they do it's because they feel like it
[17:55] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: alright so the IOMMU option is turned on in the BIOS
[17:55] <bmintz> windtalker what command led that error to occur?
[18:00] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: K ^^ .. and in " Additional Software " is AMD firmware " ; is the patch installed ? ' dpkg -l linux-firmware ' .
[18:02] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: err I don't really understand the out put of that one: http://pastebin.com/raw/5D8VmTGp
[18:03] <Bashing-om> !info linux-firmware
[18:03] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: in the additional drivers window I have this: https://img42.com/THqae+
[18:04] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Well, you have the patch .. so much for that idea too .
[18:05] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: but can the processor be responsible for graphical glitches?
[18:05] <waddupglitchmob> I thought it's always the GPU
[18:08] <lyze> Hey guys, friend of mine wants to get rid of ubuntu and asked me to do it. Now I don't want to just delete the partition since grub is installed on the linux partition. I've tried to recover the windows bootloader but according to the windows install disc it operates properly but it wont get detected by the uefi. (windows 10) Now should I install grub to a seperate partition or what exactly should I do?
[18:08] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Somewhat grasping at straws .. as I can not explain " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 " . Maybe change the driver ? what retuns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' . As I expect the system to like 364 version drivr better .
[18:09] <lyze> The bootinfoscript file creates this result.txt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22601084/
[18:09] <waddupglitchmob> amd64-microcode nvidia-361 nvidia-340
[18:10] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Huh ?? This is a 16.04 install right ? ..
[18:10] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: yes
[18:11] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia364
[18:11] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-364
[18:11] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-361
[18:12] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: I guess my bad in think'n 364 is in the repo .
[18:12] <waddupglitchmob> Why?
[18:12] <waddupglitchmob> Shouldn't it be?
[18:13] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: I also read through the changes nvidia made between version 361 and the lastest but that's mostly things about Vulkan and setups with other hardware than mine.
[18:13] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Apparently not supposed to be .. We do have a trusted PPA for later versioned drivers .
[18:14] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: so how is it possible I'm using that one then?
[18:14] <waddupglitchmob> I didn't download anything
[18:15] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Well > I am a believer that Nvidia knows their hardware best .. and for that 750ti they remommend the 367 version driver ..
[18:16] <Bashing-om> IF we were to go with the 367 version driver .. we would have to activate the PPA source .
[18:16] <waddupglitchmob> !info nvidia-367
[18:17] <waddupglitchmob> Hmmm, should I try that one out that? What PPA should I add?
[18:17] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/105343/en-us .. for the PPA see: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[18:19] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: what about this: "We currently recommend: `nvidia-361`, Nvidia's current long lived branch."
[18:19] <waddupglitchmob> ?
[18:19] <virtuosoj> Can you run Unity 8 off of a 16.10 live USB?
[18:20] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: As OerHeks remarked .. should work .. but .. there are problems .. maybe changing the driver will fix and or give us a hint what is wrong ??
[18:21] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: so if I use the PPA to install it I don't need to download it from nvidia's website right?
[18:21] <waddupglitchmob> It's going to be hard to test, but I will try. It happens around 1/4 logins.
[18:21] <OerHeks> waddupglitchmob, such artifacts that resets itself when pressing mouse, i have seen this once, with ati, the solution was to reset the monitor itself, to vendor defaults with its own menu buttons
[18:23] <waddupglitchmob> OerHeks: that's interesting but if it were the monitor (I dual boot) wouldn't the 14.04 have the same problem?
[18:23] <ioria> waddupglitchmob, had the same problem with nouveau ?
[18:24] <waddupglitchmob> ioria: hmm good question I can't remember (I have this issue for some weeks now).
[18:25] <ioria> waddupglitchmob, 750ti is Maxwell, iirc
[18:25] <waddupglitchmob> But I'd rather not use nouveau since the performance is worse right?
[18:25] <waddupglitchmob> My brother plays games on this system
[18:25] <OerHeks> it should yes, if not then there is a driver/kernel change.
[18:26] <OerHeks> try the driver ppa as Bashing-om suggest, add it, and run the driver tool again
[18:26] <ioria> waddupglitchmob, it's said maxwell chipset requires to blacklist nouveau, but sure i don't have that card
[18:26] <waddupglitchmob> OerHeks: what do you mean with "run the driver tool again"?
[18:26] <OerHeks> the driver menu you used to install your current nvidia?
[18:27] <OerHeks> type driver in dash
[18:27] <waddupglitchmob> ah okay
[18:28] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo aot update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 ; sudo reboot ' will do it in terminal .
[18:28] <waddupglitchmob> I just added the PPA and ran 'apt update', now 'apt list --upgradable' also lists 'nvidia-361' as upgradable
[18:29] <lyze> Trying to remove ubuntu and revert back to the windows bootloader. "sudo efibootmgr" only lists "ubuntu" and the "bootinfoscript" result is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22601084/   ...   how can I safely remove the linux partitions so that I can still boot into win 10?
[18:30] <waddupglitchmob> Thanks, I'll reboot then cya all in 5-10 minutes (trying to get the screen to glitch will take some time ;P
[18:30] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Nothing wrong with trying to upgrade 361 and see what results .. we can  alsways purge what is and do " something else" .
[18:32] <avionic> hello
[18:32] <avionic> my Ubuntu Software center just has a wheel spinning... wont load anything
[18:33] <avionic> Nevermind I kill -9 the pid and it works fine after reloading
[18:34] <Bashing-om> avionic: Internet connectivity ? what results with terminal command ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[18:35] <avionic> Bashing it's not internet...i'm chatting to you on the same box
[18:38] <OerHeks> !info ddate
[18:39] <waddupglitchmob> Alright I'm back, the bad news: it still glitches, the good news: the 'glitches' now look like some kind of art
[18:39] <waddupglitchmob> https://img42.com/W6ETw+
[18:40] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: OerHeks Reset unity to default ?
[18:41] <waddupglitchmob> oh could it be the theme that's messing it up?
[18:41] <waddupglitchmob> I'm using Numix
[18:41] <OerHeks> theme, sure
[18:42] <waddupglitchmob> Bashing-om: with this? `unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity`
[18:42] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: +1 on the theme as a probable source of the fault .
[18:43] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob: Out of my experience with Numix .
[18:43] <ioria> waddupglitchmob,  Guest Account ?
[18:44] <waddupglitchmob> brb. logging in and out
[18:48] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: OerHeks: just tried switching to my account and the guest account but even on the guest account I got the glitches :|
[18:48] <OerHeks> waddupglitchmob, seems like your issue too https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=214625 even though it is mint
[18:49] <OerHeks> so i guess it is the numix theme itself
[18:49] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: Well that do indicate it glitch is system wide, rather rhen a user config issue .
[18:51] <waddupglitchmob_> OerHeks: but since the guest account doesn't use that theme how is that possible? Does it 'leak' because I'm using it on the account I'm switching from?
[18:53] <OerHeks> time to file a bugreport
[18:54] <OerHeks> but against what package, nvidia, kernel ...
[18:55] <waddupglitchmob_> OerHeks: I have absolutely no clue
[18:55] <waddupglitchmob_> I tried reporting a bug once for Ubuntu like three years ago and had to create an account on launchpad?
[18:55] <waddupglitchmob_> But I couldn't figure out how to use that website ;P
[18:56] <OerHeks> easy, ubuntu-bug <package>
[18:56] <OerHeks> !bug
[18:56] <waddupglitchmob_> TIL
[18:56] <waddupglitchmob_> but then again, what package?
[18:57] <waddupglitchmob_> I mean the issue is way to vague atm. right?
[18:57] <OerHeks> Yeah, i was thinking out loud too, nvidia, kernel ..
[18:57] <OerHeks> numix should be mentioned too
[18:58] <waddupglitchmob_> yeah I guess
[18:58] <waddupglitchmob_> if it could 'leak', lack for a better term, that would be a bug itself
[18:58] <OerHeks> Bashing-om ??
[18:59] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Well ,, that gets the big boys involved .. I have no better alternative .
[18:59] <OerHeks> well, ou tested it against 14.04 and guest account
[18:59] <OerHeks> c/ou/you
[19:00] <OerHeks> i would go for nvidia
[19:00] <__raven> i want to connect to a bluetooth audio device (BCM2046B1) with ubuntu 16.04 but i am not able to make it work: "blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Protocol not available..." http://pastebin.com/QXU1rV4a any ideas to solve that?
[19:01] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: I do have another outside thought .. as the boot parameter was needed in 14.04 ..is it still required in 16.04 ? Have you tried to boot 16.04 without it ?
[19:01] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: oh no it's the other way around.
[19:02] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: Surprising .. 16.04 is to be smarter than 14.04 .
[19:02] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: caught me by suprise too, I've had zero problems with 14.04 but 16.04 messed it up
[19:03] <waddupglitchmob_> I guess it's really hard to move forward without causing regression when it comes to handling hardware
[19:06] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: Your AMD board ,, greater tham A9 ? : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#Desktop_2 .
[19:06] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: OerHeks: getting really tired, shall I just report to nvidia then? How would I describe the issue, what should I mention? Also the command would be 'ubuntu-bug nvidia'?
[19:07] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: do you mean the motherboard?
[19:08] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: Yeah, the motherboard in particular .
[19:09] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: I have the 970A-UD3P
[19:10] <waddupglitchmob_> The version without the 'P' is in the list
[19:13] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: Yep. Pretty decent board there . Should have no problems .. but !
[19:16] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: you're leaving me in suspense now ;D
[19:16] <ioria> waddupglitchmob, i'd try 3 things:  nouveau (to be sure the culprit is nvidia and not the new 16.04 xorg) , or disable  secure boot , or blacklist nouveau
[19:18] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: ^^ we are not going to leave you .. Just that this is above my range and pay grade .
[19:20] <waddupglitchmob_> Bashing-om: hehe alright
[19:20] <waddupglitchmob_> ioria: blacklisting nouveau seems like a pretty drastic step
[19:21] <ioria> waddupglitchmob,  well, you don't use it :þ
[19:22] <ioria> waddupglitchmob,  never occurred to me your issue... if it were on console, i'd say that's a memory corruption ... do you have, by any chance, another kernel to boot ?
[19:23] <waddupglitchmob_> ioria: well I also have 14.04 installed, which is working fine
[19:23] <bmintz> just crickets on the #ubuntu-cn
[19:23] <bmintz> it's been a  few hours and there's not many peeps on
[19:23] <ioria> waddupglitchmob, on 16.04 you have only 4.4.0.31 ?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: A quick way to check blacklist: ' sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* ' .
[19:27] <waddupglitchmob_> nvidia-367_hybrid.conf:blacklist nouveau nvidia-367_hybrid.conf:blacklist lbm-nouveau nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf:blacklist nouveau nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf:blacklist lbm-nouveau
[19:28] <ioria> waddupglitchmob, you installed 367 ?
[19:29] <waddupglitchmob_> ioria: yes
[19:29] <waddupglitchmob_> from the graphics-drivers ppa
[19:29] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: ioria ^ Do not see nouveau as a possible conflict here .
[19:30] <Bashing-om> ioria: ^ the 367 install at my instigation . was 361 with problem .
[19:30] <ioria> Bashing-om, i see
[19:31] <ioria> Bashing-om,  well, it's the latest i think , suggested by the nvidia itself
[19:31] <OerHeks> blacklisting nouveau could do no harm, i guess
[19:32] <ioria> lotuspsychje, lotusssssssssssssss
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria :p
[19:32] <ioria> lotuspsychje, well come back
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ive been there in discuss a few
[19:33] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see ^_^
[19:33] <waddupglitchmob_> Getting really late here, need sleep. I want to thank each one of you: Bashing-om, OerHeks & ioria. Tomorrow I will try nouveau (if that fixes it report `ubuntu-bug nvidia`), try to blacklist nouveau.
[19:34] <waddupglitchmob_> I can't thank you all enough, especially Bashing-om with all your patience.
[19:34] <Bashing-om> waddupglitchmob_: NP .. we do this because we want to .. add our bit to our community .
[19:35] <ioria> waddupglitchmob,  ok, we'll wait for you you
[19:35] <waddupglitchmob_> I love communities like these
[19:35] <ioria> waddupglitchmob,  another try, would be boot a livecd
[19:36] <mikek> Can anyone help me with ubuntu networking problem. I am having high packet loss between two machines connected by an ethernet switch.
[19:36] <ioria> waddupglitchmob,  (will use nouveau, obviously)
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> unity-greeter got stuck on earlier picture instead of my current wallpaper background on login 16.04, i have been messing with dconf and wallpaper folders but cant get it straight, any clues?
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> mikek: perhaps wireshark or etherape can sort your lost out?
[19:38] <OerHeks> mikek, change cable?
[19:38] <JakesDen>  any wai i can have a script running to make it so when caps lock is on it holds right click on?
[19:39] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  have you modified some lightdm's file ?
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> ioria: not that i know off
[19:39] <mikek> lotuspsychje: I don't have wireshark or etherape installed but I can try that
[19:40] <mikek> OerHeks: Ok I will try switching cables
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> mikek: how did you notice packet lost? ping?
[19:40] <mikek> lotuspyschje: yes with ping. It's around 70% packet loss
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> mikek: did it work before?
[19:42] <mikek> lotuspsychje: I ran "netstat -s" and there is a high number of packets dropped because of missing route. not sure what that means exactly.
[19:43] <mikek> lotuspyschje: no this is a new setup
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> mikek: both boxes same ubuntu version? updated to latest? good network card drivers?
[19:44] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/772253/what-file-or-setting-controls-user-backgrounds-in-unity-greeter
[19:44] <OerHeks> hardware breaks after 5 years, or within 2 weeks .. but i would check the cables first
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust :p
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> ioria: lemme check
[19:45] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  looks like your issue, not sure about the fix
[19:46] <mikek> lotuspyschje: yes both are ubuntu 16.04. I am not sure about the network card drivers.
[19:47] <craptalk> is it possible to do penetration testing on ubuntu distro?
[19:47] <ikonia> yes
[19:47] <craptalk> and is there any free material on the internet about pentest?
[19:47] <ikonia> no
[19:47] <ikonia> nothing good
[19:47] <mikek> OerHeks: tried changing cable but still no bueno
[19:47] <craptalk> ikonia: should i just install metasploit framework?
[19:48] <ikonia> no
[19:48] <docmur> Is it possible to download perl from 5.18 to 5.14?
[19:48] <ikonia> docmur: if there is a package for it in the ubuntu repos - that is an easy situation, other than that it will make things become unsupported
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> mikek: check network drivers with lshw -C network perhaps
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria: i dont see a 10-unity-greeter file there
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> ioria: and 10-unity-settings doesnt seem like to contain wallpaper stuff
[19:50] <ioria> lotuspsychje, "I have created the file ... "
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ok lemme try
[19:52] <mikek> lotuspsychje: Here is a gist https://gist.github.com/mkaisercross/721be04181d8384600796a1805109a13
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> mikek: perhaps it might be handy to tail -f /var/log/syslog while data transfer between both boxes maybe some usefull errors?
[19:54] <Guest79588> Help please cant source the problem ubuntu 16.04 arduino 1.6.10  can not find the motive why  ttyUSB0 dosent show up at Ports
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest79588  i guess you have to be in #ubuntu-arm
[19:57] <mikek> lotuspyschje: ok added the output to the https://gist.github.com/mkaisercross/721be04181d8384600796a1805109a13
[20:00] <bmintz> help! my mouse cursor is invisible in xfce after locking and unlocking the screen and now i have to make extensive use of keyboard shortcuts i'm not familiar with!
[20:00] <bmintz> wat do?
[20:01] <mikek> lotuspyschje: I checked the output on both machines by the way. It looked pretty much the same.
[20:01] <Bashing-om> bmintz: I have seen some instances of ctl+alt+F1 ; alt+f7 brings it back .. maybe ?
[20:02] <bmintz> tried that it didn't help
[20:02] <bmintz> that's my goto normally
[20:02] <guzzlefry> bmintz: I'm trying to remember how I fixed that, other than disabling anything that would lock the screen...
[20:02] <bmintz> i just did drag and drop and that resolved it for some reason :o
[20:02] <bmintz> i swear my bugs are the worst sometimes
[20:03] <bmintz> *strangest, at least i can boot!
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> mikek: router or firewall interfere?
[20:04] <guzzlefry> bmintz: There's a worse one where if you unplug the mouse, or it goes to sleep (being a wireless mouse) when you enter sleep mode you won't be able to wake the computer back up. :P
[20:05] <bmintz> :O
[20:10] <mikek> lotuspyschje: I installed ufw on one but I disabled it before doing the test. There is also DHCP server on one of them.
[20:11] <anonymous_> 'nn
[20:12] <anonymous_> a]sld
[20:12] <anonymous_> h'
[20:12] <anonymous_> hi
[20:14] <squisher> hey folks, I just upgraded my nuc to xenial and now it hangs during boot time around when it's initializing lvm
[20:18] <Bent0> Somehow this little Shuttle PC im using doesnt output anything when booted.  1920x1080 screen tried both HDMI and VGA. I do have picture when booting (can see BIOS) but after Ubuntu starts the display turns off because theres no output.
[20:18] <Bent0> VGA works fine on another screen at 1440x900. Two other screens at 1920 no picture. It should be able to do 1920x1080 tho. Any ideas?
[20:21] <squisher> hm and that recovery option is pretty borked - I can log in, drop to a root shell, and seconds later systemd bombs the screen and returns me to a broken recovery menu
[20:24] <mikek> lotuspyschje: I just noticed something. I tried making each machine ping the other at the same time and it looks like they are taking turns.
[20:25] <mikek> lotuspyschje: It's random how many pings will occur but whenever one starts the other stops.
[20:27] <toastymallow> I installed Ubuntu I am running the suggested drivers for my GTX 970 yet I still get screen tearing when watching a movie or even when moving windows anyone have any ideas?
[20:29] <bmintz> bent0 is there a more specific error message you get?
[20:29] <bmintz> does it hang then drop to initramfs shell?
[20:30] <iandawg> lordcirth: that boot fix suggestion you gave me worked, thank you very much
[20:31] <iandawg> I know it's not directly related to ubuntu, but I have some obnoxious bios screen prompts when I boot now...
[20:31] <Bent0> bmintz: Nothing. It doesnt output anything
[20:31] <iandawg> Default Boot Device Missing or Boot Failed. Insert Recovery Media and hit any key then select "Boot Manager" to choose a new Boot Device or Boot Recovery Media "Ok"
[20:32] <iandawg> (Boot Manager Screen)
[20:32] <iandawg> Boot Option Menu 1. Windows Boot Manager (HBG4e)
[20:32] <iandawg> (only option)
[20:32] <iandawg> Anyone ever see this? Any suggestions around it?
[20:36] <guest-aw432t> Hi, I can not access the graphical environment, I returned again to the login screen, can you help me?
[20:37] <Bent0> bmintz: I managed to exit the GUI by pressing CTRL ALT F1 on the 1440 monitor. Then plugged in the HDMI cable, disconnected VGA and I got a picture on my 1920 screen.
[20:38] <Bent0> Started X by hand and now im logged in with a picture. But it returns to old behavior when I reboot. Looks like X is holding something back
[20:38] <bmintz> its hatred of you
[20:38] <bmintz> buried deep in the arcane config files is its deepest feelings
[20:39] <bmintz> what secrets do you hold, /etc/X11/X11.conf?
[20:39] <bmintz> what do i not know?!
[20:39] <bmintz> so hopefully that answers your question Bent0
[20:39] <Bent0> lol
[20:39] <ikonia> bmintz: you'll do better if you just engage with people clearly, rather than trying to talk in riddles
[20:39] <bmintz> :(
[20:40] <bmintz> but idk the answers it holds
[20:40] <bmintz> >trying \n well i thought i did a good job :(
[20:43] <ubuntu021> hi, whats the best way on ubuntu to host your own website securly, is yunohost really any good
[20:43] <ikonia> a basic webserver
[20:43] <ikonia> thats all you need
[20:43] <ikonia> nothing else
[20:43] <bmintz> nginx?
[20:43] <ubuntu021> well a database as well
[20:44] <ubuntu021> my problem is keeping it secure
[20:44] <k1l_> ubuntu021: yunohost is no ubuntu
[20:44] <ikonia> ubuntu021: how is that a problem
[20:44] <ubuntu021> how do i secure ubuntu server base
[20:45] <ikonia> you can't really ask that as a quetion
[20:45] <ikonia> as it depends on a lot of things
[20:45] <ikonia> it's up to you to understand your system and minimise the risks it offers and have auditing in place for the risks
[20:45] <k1l_> ubuntu021: ubuntu ships updates to fix known security issues. but the config and to use strong passwords or key auth is the admins task.
[20:46] <ubuntu021> yes but it's just a home test server that i need to be public
[20:46] <ikonia> ubuntu021: how does that change anything ?
[20:47] <bmintz> https://caddyserver.com/ this simple server written in go with built-in Let's Encrypt TLS may be of help, although for database you may need some FastCGI wizardry
[20:48] <bmintz> it's very simple though so YMMV but if you only need something simple it's worth looking into
[20:48] <ubuntu021> would i be better off running containers for security (docker) as in db in one container and webserver in another and just send data across, i could also run pfsense as a firewall
[20:48] <ikonia> no
[20:48] <ikonia> you're making a problem
[20:49] <ubuntu021> how so
[20:49] <ikonia> what is wrong with a web server and database
[20:49] <bmintz> although pfsense wouldnt be a bad idea right?
[20:49] <ikonia> you have 3 things to secure. core OS, web server, database
[20:49] <ikonia> adding more to it opens up more options
[20:49] <ikonia> why ?]
[20:49] <ikonia> why do you need phsense on a webserve ?
[20:49] <ikonia> it's totally overkill
[20:50] <bmintz> oh
[20:50] <k1l_> if you cant secure your webserver and database, that is the main issue, imho. putting it into a sandbox like containers or stuff doesnt make the data more secure in the database etc.
[20:51] <ubuntu021> any good reading material on securing ubuntu server and hardening
[20:52] <yeats> ubuntu021: this looks pretty good: https://blog.mattbrock.co.uk/hardening-the-security-on-ubuntu-server-14-04/
[20:53] <OerHeks> that depends per service, i guess
[20:53] <yeats> (found with the magic of google :-) )
[20:54] <ubuntu021> yea i thing i'm way in over my head when it comes to security
[20:54] <ubuntu021> *think
[20:55] <ubuntu021> thanks anyway
[20:56] <guest-aw432t> I can not access the graphical environment, I returned again to the login screen. Can you help me?
[20:56] <k1l_> guest-aw432t: does guest account work?
[20:58] <guest-aw432t> I can not access with me standar user to the graphical environment
[20:59] <ikonia> you said that
 guest-aw432t: does guest account work?
[20:59] <ikonia> and you where asked does the guest account work
[20:59] <ikonia> answer that question instead of repeating the same thing
[20:59] <k1l_> guest-aw432t: iit helps finding the issue if you answer that simple question. so we can get a clue if its a driver issue or a user setting issue
[21:00] <tuelz> how do I test to see if an nginx upstart supervisor is working?  I figured kill'ing with -9 flag of the master nginx process would trigger a nginx.conf to restart it, but no dice
[21:01] <tuelz> the upstart nginx.conf is coming straight from nginx so I imagine it should work https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/examples/ubuntuupstart/
[21:01] <ikonia> trigger an nginx.conf ???
[21:01] <tuelz> trigger a conf?  I'm not sure what that means
[21:01] <ikonia> then why are you saying it ?
[21:02] <tuelz> xD  I'm asking what you mean
[21:02] <ikonia> tuelz: you said it
[21:02] <ikonia> nginx process would trigger a nginx.conf to restart it
[21:02] <ikonia> thats what you said
[21:02] <tuelz> oh, I see
[21:02] <tuelz> yeah, upstart supervises processes based on configuration, right?
[21:03] <ikonia> upstart has a service definition
[21:03] <tuelz> I linked to the config I'm using and the expected behavior is that when I `kill -9 $NGINX_PROCESS` it should be restarted by upstart, but it isn't
[21:03] <alex_kanc> hi
[21:03] <ikonia> tuelz: what is the upstart config set to do for that service
[21:03] <ikonia> not all services are re-spawn
[21:04] <tuelz> ikonia: I've linked to the exact config I'm using here `https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/examples/ubuntuupstart/`
[21:04] <tuelz> it does respawn
[21:04] <tuelz> or at least it has that keyword and I expect it too
[21:04] <ikonia> tuelz: first question, what version of ubuntu is this
[21:04] <tuelz> 14.04LTS
[21:04] <ikonia> tuelz: second question - the nginx package ships with an upstart config, why are you overwriting this with that template
[21:05] <tuelz> this template comes straight from nginx.com - I imagine they are the same, no?
[21:05] <ikonia> tuelz: did you even look ?
[21:05] <tuelz> I'm deploying with someone elses install scripts, no idea how exactly they are removing the /etc/init/nginx.conf but it wasn't there
[21:06] <ikonia> ok - I'm not supporting your custom builds/installs
[21:06] <tuelz> okay, thanks for your time
[21:06] <TekNite> Complete IRC nub. First time user. Downloaded to 14.04. Advice in the IRC universe?
[21:06] <tuelz> nothing really custom about upstart though
[21:06] <ikonia> you have no idea
[21:06] <ikonia> you've just said you don't know how they are deploying
[21:07] <ikonia> which means you don't know what's happening, so I don't trust that you can say what's changed/custom and what's not
[21:07] <bmintz> after installing fcitx, when i use ctrl+shift+u i don't get any indication of the numbers i'm typing. not a travesty as i can still use fcitx's awesome unicode search thing but it would be nice, but i only really need it for a few i can't type
[21:07] <tuelz> I said I don't know how the config isn't there, much like there's millions of other things about every computer that I don't know about :)
[21:07] <k1l_> TekNite: advice for what? :)
[21:08] <ikonia> tuelz: you want nginx running safe and simple ?
[21:08] <tuelz> I want nginx supervised to restart when killed
[21:08] <VinceVon> hey all, is there a terminal that I can resize like a normal window, instead of setting the geometry in columns and rows?
[21:08] <ikonia> tuelz: ok - stop what you are doing, delete your custom stuff, and just open the package manager and install nginx
[21:08] <tuelz> ikonia: doing that now, thanks
[21:08] <VinceVon> I'm using a tiling software in ubuntu gnome, all windows fall in place correctly, but the term always has white space around and is slightly off place
[21:09] <toastymallow> anyone have any idea how to fix screen tearing when using a gtx 970 I should be able to run movies fine but it tears even when moving windows around....
[21:10] <lordcirth> toastymallow, what drivers are you using?
[21:10] <VinceVon> toastymallow: I've got a gtx 750M with the latest drivers (367.35) and vsync does not work in ubuntu, at least
[21:11] <VinceVon> according to my research, it's because of X, apparently Wayland/Mir would work fine
[21:11] <lordcirth> I have a GT 650 and it works fine.
[21:12] <VinceVon> how many children did you sacrifice?
[21:12] <toastymallow> tried nouveau and nvidia binary 361.42 tearing in both
[21:12] <VinceVon> I've got a diagonal tearing I cannot get rid of
[21:12] <VinceVon> and the times I tried, I either crashed X, unity or gnome
[21:12] <lordcirth> VinceVon, I installed nvidia driver from repos and rebooted.  Worked ever since
[21:13] <VinceVon> I'm getting the drivers from the ppa
[21:13] <VinceVon> the official nvidia ppa
[21:13] <VinceVon> no vsync settings work
[21:13] <tuelz> hmm, neither nginx nor nginx-full package appears to be installing a nginx.conf
[21:15] <toastymallow> are you getting any tearing lordcirth?
[21:15] <lordcirth> toastymallow, 0 problems
[21:15] <toastymallow> hm....
[21:15] <lapion> Hello,
[21:15] <lapion> How can I get linux-firmware-nonfree for xenial ?
[21:15] <VinceVon> ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[21:15] <VinceVon> lordcirth: correct?
[21:16] <Finetundra> Anyone have any idea where wine might have installed it's libs?
[21:17] <lordcirth> VinceVon, I am using nvidia-361-updates/xenial
[21:17] <VinceVon> interesting, you think 367.35 may have broken vsync?
[21:19] <stevendale> Is Ubuntu Server 16.04 as stable as 12.04 or 14.04?
[21:19] <lordcirth> VinceVon, I don't know.  It is worth trying 361.  Be aware that the last time I rolled back drivers it took a bit of tinkering
[21:19] <ikonia> stevendale: yes
[21:19] <lordcirth> stevendale, it's an LTS, and .1 is out, so yes
[21:19] <stevendale> Okay
[21:20] <stevendale> Thanks
[21:21] <VinceVon> lordcirth: thanks mate
[21:23] <Bashing-om> toastymallow: Optimus ? Maybe see about : https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/tearfree-test .
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> stevendale: It's fast, easy and solid. This is a great question to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:23] <stevendale> Ok
[21:24] <stevendale> I want it on a Summer 2001 iMac G3
[21:25] <bmintz> after installing fcitx, when i use ctrl+shift+u i don't get any indication of the numbers i'm typing. not a travesty as i can still use fcitx's awesome unicode search thing but it would be nice, but i only really need it for a few i can't type. any ideas?
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> stevendale: THAT is something you'll have to muck about with, bro...architecture...
[21:33] <Anastrophe> Hi, does anyone here use a Razer Deathadder chrome under Ubuntu? I'm wondering if there's a way to change DPI and whatnot, or if it will at least retain its config if done under Windows with the utility.
[21:33] <Anastrophe> *Chroma
[21:36] <lordcirth> Anastrophe, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Razer
[21:39] <Anastrophe> lordcirth: Ah yes I was looking at this a little while ago, wasn't sure if it supported that particular revision though. Thanks!
[21:39] <pkuyken> is there any particular _technical_ advantage of one flavor of ubuntu over another, or are the flavors generally look and feel only (Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu MATE in particular)
[21:40] <lordcirth> pkuyken, they are the same thing with a different desktop package.
[21:41] <pkuyken> lordcirth: That's what I thought, but I wanted some confirmation.  I've been trying to wear out a flash drive with each flavor to see which one I like the most
[21:42] <eva_> hey guys, how's the state of AMD drivers for 16.04 LTS?
[21:44] <bmintz> if i restart X right now will i lose anything? or will my session be locked still?
[21:45] <lordcirth> bmintz, if you restart X, any programs running in it will close
[21:45] <k1l_> bmintz: its a relogin technically
[21:45] <bmintz> ohk
[21:45] <bmintz> brb
[21:45] <k1l_> bmintz: with shutting down all programs
[21:46] <cantstanya> Have idiots bothered inappropriately asking about Umbongo on Windows here yet?
[21:46] <cantstanya> I don't feel like looking through my logs.
[21:46] <lordcirth> cantstanya, all the time
[21:46] <cantstanya> Cool
[21:47] <cantstanya> Nap time for me, hi phunyguy
[21:47] <lordcirth> eva_, depends on your card.  Latest ones are supported by AMDGPU.
[21:48] <omer> ls
[21:49] <eva_> I have a 6850 and I was using fglrx, everything just broke when i upgraded to 16.04, i hear they abandoned support for fglrx?
[21:49] <Anastrophe> My understanding is that the benefit of using one ubuntu flavour over just sticking a DE on top of the vanilla ubuntu release is that there's probably some specific packages for better integration or something.
[21:50] <eva_> 16.04LTS*
[21:50] <ikonia> eva_: ubuntu has not abandonded anyhing
[21:51] <ikonia> AMD dropped the propritary modules
[21:51] <dax> AMD stopped developing fglrx and it's not compatible with current Xorg. They're working on amdgpu-pro instead.
[21:51] <dax> which doesn't support older cards, those will use radeon going forward
[21:52] <ShotokanZH> hi evryone
[21:53] <Raxz> Anastrophe: would that have prevented Nautilus breaking everything when I installed cinnamon? (until I manually told it to stop doing that)
[21:53] <Raxz> stuff like that :P
[21:53] <ShotokanZH> does anyone knows why i can't launch the htop version installed via "snap" using ubuntu-core-launcher?
[21:53] <ShotokanZH> it sais: "appname htop not allowed"
[21:53] <Anastrophe> lol
[21:54] <Anastrophe> Raxz: My experience is that trying to do something in Linux will rarely give the expected result.
[21:54] <Raxz> pretty much
[21:54] <reisio> like what?
[21:54] <Anastrophe> Getting a wireless adapter to work in Ubuntu in 2006-2008 basically included going outside and doing a rain dance.
[21:55] <reisio> so your experience pertains to a decade ago only?
[21:56] <Anastrophe> reisio: No, for example, I tried installing fedora the other night and after running updates to the newest kernel via dnf, it wouldn't even boot.
[21:57] <Anastrophe> Obviously, you can fix most things when they crop up, you just have to be ready for something to crop up.
[22:06] <eva_> ahhh ok, I understand... so I should rely on radeon drivers going forward then...
[22:07] <k1l_> eva_: yes. radeon is the standard now. and for new cards there is support from amd for amd_gpu
[22:10] <bmintz> t
[22:11] <eva_> ahhh thanks
[22:28] <sabat> What's everyone's preferred means of filling in PDFs on linux? This is literally the only reason I have a windows partition atm.
[22:29] <kajayacht> I like Foxit Reader personally
[22:30] <Anastrophe> sabat: What do you mean by 'filling'
[22:30] <lordcirth> Anastrophe, I assume he means pdfs with fillable form fields
[22:30] <sabat> ^^
[22:30] <orlock> sabat: there's a command line tool.. its not really user friendly, unless thats your sort of thing
[22:31] <Anastrophe> Ah, I didn't even know PDFs could be edited once made. Shows how often I deal with them.
[22:31] <sabat> I don't mind cli tools. what's it called.
[22:31] <orlock> sabat: lets you dump a list of the fields,  then choose what to fill them with
[22:31] <sabat> They're a pain Anastrophe. I have one class that requires them weekly, and I'd rather not reboot every time I need to fill one in.
[22:32] <Anastrophe> I'm googling right now to see why they're even still used. Seems they're better font quality and what not than other formats.
[22:32] <dsabanin> hey everyone!
[22:33] <dsabanin> can somebody help me find a way to make sure a window is tied to a particular workspace when it launches? (ideally I'd love to manage it's size and location also)
[22:33] <sabat> I can tell you why this lady uses them. Because she's an incompetent "professor" who teaches and outdated health class with information from the mid 80s. But it's a required class for graduation.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> sabat: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PDF_forms https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PDF_forms Note that while otherwise great, Inkscape doesn't support multiple page documents.
[22:34] <lordcirth> sabat, do you need only to print or to send them back as PDFs?  Those ^ linked just do printing by sticking the text on top.
[22:34] <sabat> orlock, what was the cli tool called?
[22:34] <orlock> Anastrophe: Lots of reasons PDF's are used
[22:34] <Anastrophe> sabat: At least it's not an animal homeopathy course, those do exist.
[22:34] <lordcirth> The one that claims to fill them is dead
[22:34] <sabat> I need to send them back. It's an online class.
[22:35] <orlock> sabat: Just googling, its been about 2 years - i was using it for a drupal website backend to automatically populate names on business cards
[22:35] <sabat> Okay, thanks.
[22:35] <orlock>  https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/
[22:35] <Anastrophe> orlock: Yeah I'm reading into it now, surprised I'd never given it thought before.
[22:35] <sabat> Thanks orlock! :)
[22:36] <sabat> If anyone else thinks of something better, feel free to msg me. afk for a bit.
[22:36] <orlock> Anastrophe: i worked in IT in the printing industry for approaching 10 years, its pretty much the #1 standard there
[22:37] <Anastrophe> orlock: Seems to be popular in legal proceedings too due to not being alterable without leaving a trace or so I'm reading at the moment.
[22:37] <orlock> Anastrophe: Even over a decade ago, Adobe had software under linux for creating PDF's
[22:37] <transhuman> how from inside a gnome-terminal (ubuntu default terminal I believe ) do you set the title of the terminal gnome-terminal --title="SOME TITLE HERE"  does not seem to work
[22:37] <orlock> Anastrophe: That's debatable, but yes basically - you have much greater assurance about the layout and quality then you do with html
[22:38] <transhuman> bb in 5
[22:38] <Anastrophe> orlock: Is the PDF format proprietary?
[22:38] <lordcirth> Anastrophe, it's easy to alter a PDF in terms of security.  Only digital signatures can make any claim about being unaltered.
[22:39] <orlock> Anastrophe: Not any more, open standard since 2008
[22:40] <Pixiio> Hey guys.. I can't install Php 5.6 on my Ubuntu 14.04 server... http://pastebin.com/q3jcgsfE
[22:40] <Pixiio> Anyone got an idea?
[22:41] <orlock> Pixiio: your command to add the repository is wrong
[22:41] <k1l_> Pixiio: please make sure you read the ppa info: This PPA is going to be DEPRECATED, please use ppa:ondrej/php
[22:41] <Pixiio> Oh... this is the one I found on all of the website's. Would you please tell me the good one? :)
[22:41] <Pixiio> Whoops..
[22:41] <k1l_> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php5-5.6   read this
[22:42] <Pixiio> Thanks, will do!
[22:42] <Anastrophe> Interesting
[22:42] <lordcirth> Pixiio, also, add-apt-repository is in software-properties-common package
[22:43] <Pixiio> Hmm. I see that it is deprecated.. But I still cannot find the good command..
[22:43] <ikonia> "the good command" ?
[22:43] <Pixiio> ''Pixiio: your command to add the repository is wrong''
[22:44] <Pixiio> Or is that error because it is deprecated?
[22:44] <ikonia> no
[22:44] <ikonia> the actual command is wrong
[22:44] <ikonia> add-apt-repository
[22:44] <Pixiio> What's wrong about it?
[22:44] <lordcirth> ikonia, since when is add-apt-repository deprecated?
[22:44] <ikonia> you need the tool installed to use it
[22:45] <ikonia> lordcirth: it's not
[22:45] <rawrzers99991> is it possible to remove a program on your hard drive from a live cd? probably not I assume but I installed Xen and now it won't load to regular ubuntu
[22:45] <lordcirth> ikonia, well then it's not a wrong command
[22:45] <Pixiio> Ah, got it.
[22:45] <Pixiio> Thanks.
[22:47] <rawrzers99991> I didn't backup grub beforehand :(
[22:48] <agustin> hola
[22:48] <agustin> alguien?
[22:48] <JohnnyMonday>   this is a beautiful rant.
[22:49] <Anastrophe> Is the difference between a PPA and an ordinary repo simply that the PPA is managed by launchpad and gives a developer a more consolidated/canonical provided means of providing software?
[22:49] <k1l_> !es | agustin
[22:50] <k1l_> Anastrophe: it mean litteraly everyone can make a PPA and provide software with that. so you need to trust that guys 100%.
[22:50] <Anastrophe> k1l_: But is it essentially the same as a repo in any other distro?
[22:50] <k1l_> Anastrophe: no
[22:51] <k1l_> Anastrophe: well, you could compare it to a 3rd party repo. but not to the original ubuntu repos where there is a team of developers who need to get trusted before they get upload permissions.
[22:53] <Anastrophe> k1l_: So it's like a third party repo system?
[22:53] <k1l_> yes. where everyone gets access.
[22:55] <Anastrophe> k1l_: Ah okay, but can't you just add a random repo to your software sources file and then pull from there. Why a PPA?
[22:56] <k1l_> Anastrophe: yes. the PPA offerst some service to the maintainers like automated buildings etc.
[22:57] <k1l_> so for the enduser its nearly the same, but ubuntu got easy commands to add and rmeove those PPAs.
[22:59] <Anastrophe> Ahh I see. I've often found that a PPA will exist for easy installation of a piece of software, where another distro may not even have a package and you have to compile from source.
[22:59] <k1l_> Anastrophe: PPAs are ubuntu specific.
[23:02] <teward> Anastrophe: there are multiple third party repositories, that are not PPAs, which can provide packages for other distributions (for example I run a Debian repository for the ZNC project that has packages for ZNC backported to Wheezy, and available for install, with a GPG key of my own available for the repo)
[23:02] <teward> but PPAs are Ubuntu specific, yes
[23:02] <teward> (as k1l_ stated)
[23:02] <transhuman> anyone know why gnome-terminal  t="TERM-1" doesnt work neither does gnome-terminal --title="TERM 1" work>
[23:03] <Anastrophe> teward: I've found Ubuntu with its PPAs has often made things quick and easy compared to when I've tried other distros :)
[23:04] <transhuman> also tried gnome-terminal --show-menubar --title="TERM-1"
[23:05] <reisio> Anastrophe: sounds like your problem might stem from trying to use a multitude of distros/OSes at once, instead of just using one
[23:05] <transhuman> doesn't work
[23:05] <reisio> transhuman: define work
[23:05] <transhuman> no change of title opens new terminal though
[23:05] <dannysmc95_> Hello I have a fairly big problem with ubuntu 16.04 fresh install? At the moment I load ubuntu and then get to.the login screen, login and then I get a blank screen... which I can't do anything with?
[23:06] <Anastrophe> reisio: No problems, I'm just trying to understand the comparative differences.
[23:06] <dannysmc95_> Well I get the desktop background and that's it
[23:06] <dannysmc95_> I'm lost because I can't access tty eithet
[23:06] <transhuman> I am running a network of emulators so i need it to change title to keep track of them...ideally I would like to script this which is why I want to do it in the terminal
[23:06] <reisio> Anastrophe: between what & what?
[23:07] <reisio> transhuman: think I'd probably use screen or tmux for that, and change the title via PS1
[23:08] <transhuman> you wouldnt have a link on how to do that would you...never used tmux or screen I assume PS1 means via export command but not sure
[23:08] <Anastrophe> reisio: The concept of a PPA, and a software repo in general.
[23:08] <dannysmc95_> Anyone? Please?
[23:08] <transhuman> or a google term reisio
[23:08] <Anastrophe> K1L gave me an explanation
[23:08] <lordcirth> !patience | dannysmc95_
[23:09] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, you can't switch to a tty with Ctrl-Alt-F2?
[23:09] <dannysmc95_> I already have done all of the googling, literally I can't find a fix you are my last resort...
[23:09] <reisio> Anastrophe: ppa is just Ubuntuland's way of referring to 3rd party packages
[23:09] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth: nope just black screen
[23:09] <reisio> Anastrophe: a repo is just a place packages are stored, some are official, some are 3rd party
[23:10] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, ok, and if you reboot, you should be able to get a tty before logging in
[23:10] <dannysmc95_> Nope when on the login screen I try to access it but blank screen still
[23:11] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth: ^
[23:11] <Anastrophe> reisio: Ah I see
[23:11] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, did you try choosing fallback mode in grub?
[23:11] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth: what is that sorry?
[23:12] <dannysmc95_> I dual boot with windows 10
[23:12] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, your boot menu.  Below the option for Ubuntu there is usually a fallback option
[23:12] <reisio> Anastrophe: well, I guess I should've said the most popular way: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[23:12] <reisio> Anastrophe: you can obviously have a 3rd party .deb distributed in basically any fashion
[23:12] <reisio> Anastrophe: ppa would be, let's say, the official way to distribute unofficial packages
[23:13] <dannysmc95_> Erm I have: ubuntu, advanced options, Windows boot manager, system setup @lordcirth
[23:13] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, advanced, probably
[23:14] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth Okay I have normal, upstart, or recovery mode?
[23:14] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, recovery
[23:16] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth: I have so many options: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[23:16] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, seeing as you're having problems with graphics, try failsafeX
[23:19] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth I get the system is running in low graphics mode? Something to do with not being able to detect my graphics settings?
[23:19] <dannysmc95_> Could this be why my gui isn't loading
[23:20] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth I'm not sure how I should fix my problem?
[23:21] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, read /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, they are usually good places to start for graphics
[23:21] <dannysmc95_> So log into console?
[23:23] <lordcirth> dannysmc95_, that would be required, yes
[23:26] <dannysmc95_> @lordcirth Okay thanks!
[23:34] <Yosf> salut
[23:34] <ajruiz> Hi everybody!!!
[23:39] <joseph> hi
[23:39] <joseph> i need a script pls
[23:43] <ajruiz> someone from México?
[23:46] <xangua> ! Es | ajruiz
[23:56] <rahlquist___> hey yall, trying to get a static IP set on my 16.04 based server, followed guide https://michael.mckinnon.id.au/2016/05/05/configuring-ubuntu-16-04-static-ip-address/  and when I try to restart network it errors interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/22637285/