Mirv | can we fix lubuntu-qt-desktop somehow to not fail installing on yakkety-proposed where it depends erronously on muon-discover and muon-update which depend on plasma-discover-updated which no longer exists? | 07:45 |
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Mirv | can I simply remove the muon transitional package dependencies for the time being? this maybe be preventing the KDE and Qt transition | 07:45 |
Mirv | (because lubuntu-qt-desktop becomes uninstallable) | 07:45 |
Mirv | a correction, muon-discover depends on existing plasma-discover but muon-updater incorrect on plasma-discover-updater | 07:47 |
Mirv | right, muon-updater has been completely removed in Debian already, so I think I can proceed with this and there is time to do additions regarding plasma-discover for beta 1 still | 07:49 |
tsimonq2 | hi Mirv | 16:30 |
tsimonq2 | Mirv: I'll talk to Julien, it'll be a few hours though | 16:30 |
tsimonq2 | Mirv: *technically* I'm maintaining the lubuntu-qt-desktop package right now (internally delegated) so that's fine | 16:35 |
tsimonq2 | Mirv: if anything in the future blocks something like that, merge proposals to https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.yakkety are more than welcome :) | 16:36 |
Mirv | tsimonq2: so yes as you probably saw I pushed directly to the seed and updated meta-package. I was really hoping the big transition could happen today, but alas it seems impossible again. | 17:44 |
Mirv | tsimonq2: please review the change with Julien - as plasma-discover-updater is no more, please check what you want to depend on. I also later modified the muon transitional packages from plasma-discover to be just dependencies to plasma-discover instead of the now broken dependencies to plasma-discover-updater | 17:46 |
Mirv | tsimonq2: another thing to discuss/resolve, I bumped into bug #1559481 today and I'm not sure if it could be some sort of blocker or not - but at the very least plasma-workspace and lubuntu-default-settings can't be installed at the same time, that should be resolved. maybe rename your plasma.desktop to something else? or at least define a Breaks against plasma-workspace so they really can't be | 17:47 |
ubot93 | bug 1559481 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "lubuntu-extra-sessions conflicts has a conflicting plasma.desktop file with plasma-workspace" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1559481 | 17:47 |
Mirv | installed at the same time, but preferably so that they could be coinstalled. | 17:47 |
Mirv | "lubuntu-qt-desktop" is still flagged as problematic, so that's why I'm wondering if it's due to this and if it could block Qt & KDE transition even if other issues would be resolved | 17:48 |
Mirv | anyway, not really here now, burned out enough today and time to sleep soon :) | 17:48 |
wxl | tsimonq2: if lubuntu-qt-desktop is problematic, that may explain the reasons your merge proposals to cdimage and livecd have not been approved. possibly. | 17:49 |
Mirv | tsimonq2: btw, bug #1496292 is starting to be really critical and it seems there was finally a decision regarding that on #ubuntu-release so it will progress this week. remains to be seen on which day. | 17:50 |
ubot93 | bug 1496292 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Needs to be ported to packagekit 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496292 | 17:50 |
Mirv | the problematics with lubuntu-qt-desktop may all come down to just the packagekit 1 transition and plasma-discover, but I just note that the file conflict and co-installability problem is also critical that might be detected by some automatic test infrastructure | 17:53 |
tsimonq2 | I'm back | 18:15 |
tsimonq2 | Mirv: I have the Plasma desktop installed alongside LXQt, so a conflicts is simply not an option | 18:16 |
tsimonq2 | Mirv: re: bug 1496292, thanks | 18:18 |
ubot93 | bug 1496292 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Needs to be ported to packagekit 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496292 | 18:18 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: bug 1496292 is a showstopper in installing lubuntu-qt-desktop\ | 18:18 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: it makes it completely uninstallable | 18:18 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: so getting it fixed is high priority for us, so I poked him | 18:19 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: I just subscribed the packages team so we can keep a tab on it | 18:19 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: and re: it not being accepted because of that, the least they could do is comment on the MPs indicating so... | 18:27 |
wxl | tsimonq2: i don't know about you, but i've run into things before where i was going to work on it and hit a road block and just moved on to the next thing and put that other thing on the back burner. | 18:28 |
wxl | tsimonq2: maybe not ideal, but reasonable. | 18:28 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: seems kind of rude, doesn't it? to at the very least not just say *something* > | 18:28 |
tsimonq2 | s/>/?/ | 18:29 |
wxl | tsimonq2: i wouldn't say it's rude. i'd say it's the result of having limited time and an unlimited amount of stuff to do. | 18:29 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: yeah | 18:29 |
tsimonq2 | *shrug* | 18:29 |
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