| Gallomimia | why's my gui filebrowser suddenly look like win95? | 00:19 |
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| Gallomimia | what did i do? how can i undo it? it's not the worst in the world just feels icky | 00:22 |
| Gallomimia | like i'm drinking bill gates' urine | 00:22 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: Did you change any themes or styles? | 00:24 |
| Gallomimia | don't think so. i checked on those... | 00:24 |
| Gallomimia | the rest of the system is still "normal" | 00:24 |
| YankDownUnder | What was changed or installed or re-configured since it was last the way you wanted it? | 00:25 |
| Gallomimia | haven't really done anything to the system. aside from add a monitor whose absence was causing problems, windows appearing on the wrong screen | 00:26 |
| Gallomimia | the absent screen. also, the Main Menu has abherrant behavior: it won't open. | 00:26 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: Fair enough...have you gone back into the monitors/displays and made sure that all of that was correct - and rebooted afterwards to make sure it was kept right? | 00:27 |
| Gallomimia | yes | 00:27 |
| Gallomimia | several times in fact | 00:27 |
| Gallomimia | what's the name of the file browser? | 00:27 |
| Gallomimia | cujo? | 00:27 |
| YankDownUnder | Something you can do is to open a terminal - and type: killall -9 mate-panel | 00:27 |
| YankDownUnder | Caja | 00:28 |
| Gallomimia | right | 00:28 |
| Gallomimia | i was adding that to my panel as a hot-launch icon when i noticed the trouble | 00:28 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: In most instances, that will kill and re-load the "main" panel... | 00:28 |
| Gallomimia | thought i'd changed the default browser to something else | 00:28 |
| Gallomimia | killall | 00:28 |
| Gallomimia | doh. | 00:28 |
| Gallomimia | the problem with the main menu persists. | 00:29 |
| YankDownUnder | It's meant to... | 00:29 |
| Gallomimia | ah. i've discovered what's going on | 00:30 |
| Gallomimia | i've got my 27" monitor in portrait mode, and so, my desktop is rather huge and L shaped | 00:30 |
| Gallomimia | the menu is popping up in empty space! | 00:30 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: Ah...well, funny that. | 00:30 |
| Gallomimia | changing the layout fixes the problem. | 00:30 |
| YankDownUnder | :) | 00:31 |
| Gallomimia | but this layout is dreadful! | 00:31 |
| Gallomimia | where's the bug report forum >:( | 00:31 |
| YankDownUnder | It's easy enough to muck with - to change around...experimentation...and as well, you can play around with different themes (GTK2/GTK3) to make things less, er, "Windows" like... | 00:31 |
| YankDownUnder | https://ubuntu-mate.community/ => you can find where to do bug-filing there, mate. | 00:32 |
| Gallomimia | still no idea why the caja browser suddenly took on the win95 theme | 00:32 |
| Gallomimia | it's the only program that looks that way. | 00:32 |
| Gallomimia | and it never used to... | 00:32 |
| Gallomimia | i changed themes and no luck | 00:33 |
| YankDownUnder | It's something freaking out the basic theme - could be the display settings that screwed it up... | 00:33 |
| Gallomimia | hm. | 00:33 |
| YankDownUnder | You can always "blow out" the configurations and "caches" to see if that helps... | 00:33 |
| Gallomimia | i'll admit, this portrait view is going to take some getting used to | 00:34 |
| Gallomimia | um. where might that be? | 00:34 |
| YankDownUnder | In a terminal, you can look in the ~/.config and ~/.cache directories - and figure out what to rename or delete => they'll be re-created on logout/login... | 00:34 |
| Gallomimia | i don't think this system likes logout :O | 00:36 |
| Gallomimia | most of the themes seem to have nuked themselves back to default | 00:37 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: Kinda been through this before - what I ended up doing was exactly what I described...I logged out and did it from the console (CTRL-ALT-F1) - then restarted the DM and logged in - recreated all my stuff, and was happy after that...hmm... | 00:38 |
| Gallomimia | ah. that's better. danka | 00:38 |
| Gallomimia | caja looks normal again | 00:38 |
| Gallomimia | i nuked its entire dir in .config | 00:38 |
| Gallomimia | now for that menu bug. it's reproducible 100% | 00:41 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: Yep...been there done that. Ja ja ja ja...I did the same to all the caches and configurations for the menu and mate-panel...seemed to fix it...(well, since last using it...using something else right now) :) | 00:43 |
| Gallomimia | no, this seems to be entirely related to the screen layout | 00:43 |
| Gallomimia | the height of my main monitor is less than half of the height of my 2nd | 00:44 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: You're going to have to sort that out - truly - and you're absolutely sure you've configured everything correctly for your display/monitor settings? Because I have several monitors and it did take me a bit, but once I figured out the "layout", I was able to properly setup the correct resolutions (two different resolutions) - oh, and I had to drag the "menu bar" from the one display to the next to set it as my | 00:45 |
| YankDownUnder | primary...hmm... | 00:45 |
| Gallomimia | the menu shows when i change the layout to have the tops of both monitors aligned | 00:46 |
| Gallomimia | but in RL the bottoms of the monitors are aligned | 00:46 |
| Gallomimia | some routine makes it show above the top of my screen, in a non-visible area | 00:46 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: And have you looked through the wiki about different display issues? | 00:47 |
| Gallomimia | if i change the layout to have the landscape screen in the middle of the portrait one's edge, things work fine also | 00:47 |
| Gallomimia | that i'm going to have to locate | 00:47 |
| YankDownUnder | Hang on... | 00:47 |
| YankDownUnder | Couple of different options for "chatting" or "reading up on" things: https://ubuntu-mate.org/community/ | 00:48 |
| YankDownUnder | Meanwhile, have a read through some things - it's Monday here, and I'm going to get out of the house and get some lunch, mate.... | 00:49 |
| Gallomimia | cheers | 00:49 |
| Gallomimia | i'll give a read. but maybe i should get back to what i was doing | 00:49 |
| YankDownUnder | Gallomimia: Coolbeans...see ya on the flipside | 00:50 |
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| Guest6709 | Has anyone gotten Repetier Host working on the RPi 3? | 02:00 |
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| arun_ | is there any video driver for Dell laptops ? The scrolling smoothness is pathetic on my newly installed ubuntu mate | 11:39 |
| ouroumov | arun_, dell is not a GPU maker as far as I know | 11:40 |
| ouroumov | Please check what graphics you have using the command: inxi -G | 11:40 |
| arun_ | Graphics: Card: Intel Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics | 11:41 |
| arun_ | Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) | 11:41 |
| arun_ | Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz | 11:41 |
| arun_ | GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Broadwell GT1 | 11:41 |
| arun_ | GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0 | 11:41 |
| arun_ | thats what i'm getting | 11:41 |
| ouroumov | So it's Interl integrated graphics. Usually not an issue and drivers are stock installed. Check under "Software & Updates" -> Additional Driver if you've got Inter Microcode in use | 11:41 |
| arun_ | OK | 11:42 |
| ouroumov | Also your choice of window manager can impact your experience, use MATE Tweak to test it | 11:43 |
| DarkPsydeLord | hello! | 14:19 |
| swift110 | hey all | 14:24 |
| lenovo | hi | 14:56 |
| lenovo | sus | 14:56 |
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| yosuga | hi | 15:28 |
| swift110 | how are you | 15:47 |
| Codfection | why my plank is not running automatically after restartin | 16:06 |
| bekks | plank? | 16:15 |
| Akuli | is it the dock thing? | 16:18 |
| DarkPsydeLord | well planks are forms of dead trees you cant make em you cant really restart em and turn em into living plants again :( its a shame | 16:19 |
| DarkPsydeLord | but for the docking thingy did you added it to the startup apps? | 16:23 |
| veter900 | привет | 17:28 |
| veter900 | how to install Navigator wound or seven roads on rasberry PI 3 for Ubuntu mate and how to install cards,especially cards that give the video to see how to do it I'm not a Profesional,let the installation video cards | 17:34 |
| veter900 | как на навит установить карты видео есть или тут бесполезно писать?? | 17:53 |
| mate|90409 | Hi, I'm still having the issue with synapse, crashing when I try to type something. | 18:12 |
| mate|90409 | I'm using the comment GTK_IM_MODULE='' 'synapse' | 18:12 |
| mate|90409 | in a terminal window after every reboot | 18:13 |
| Akuli | what is synapse? | 18:13 |
| mate|90409 | Sorry I'm not sure what do you mean? | 18:14 |
| Akuli | what is it supposed to do? | 18:15 |
| Akuli | is it a photo viewer? software manager? what is it? | 18:15 |
| mate|90409 | Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). | 18:17 |
| mate|90409 | Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). | 18:17 |
| mate|90409 | Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). | 18:17 |
| mate|90409 | Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). | 18:17 |
| mate|90409 | Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). | 18:17 |
| mate|90409 | sorry | 18:17 |
| mate|90409 | its one of the pre-installed applications on Ubuntu-mate | 18:18 |
| DarkPsydeLord | wow spam! | 18:18 |
| mate|90409 | Sorry :D | 18:18 |
| mate|90409 | https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/synapse | 18:19 |
| mate|90409 | Not spam I promise :D | 18:19 |
| Akuli | i wonder why it's not in my repositories | 18:22 |
| Akuli | anyway, just go to startup applications in whatever menu you use and add it there :) | 18:22 |
| mate|90409 | This would resolve the issue. I can open the program that bit is fine, the problem that it crashes when I try to type anything into it | 18:26 |
| mate|90409 | https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/synapse-crashes-in-16-04/5348/6 | 18:27 |
| mate|90409 | This might give you some more info of the issue | 18:27 |
| mate|90409 | I have seen few people posting about the issue but couldn't find a fix :/ | 18:28 |
| Akuli | i have no idea why it segfaults | 18:29 |
| Akuli | if run it from the terminal with GTK_IM_MODULE="" synapse, does it still segfault? | 18:30 |
| mate|90409 | I have been using this workaround for weeks now but I have to do this in a terminal window after every reboot its not really a fix | 18:32 |
| mate|90409 | I was expecting a fix for the bug as its affecting many users | 18:33 |
| mate|90409 | and the application is unusable | 18:33 |
| Akuli | on the ubuntu mate bug report there was a fix for your .desktop file that launches the program | 18:39 |
| mate|90409 | what is the fix? is it just an update fix? | 18:39 |
| mate|90409 | can I have the link? | 18:40 |
| Akuli | in this https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/synapse-crashes-in-16-04/5348/8 | 18:40 |
| Akuli | the third last comment, by scarciuz | 18:40 |
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| gordonjcp | evening | 19:57 |
| gordonjcp | I'm running Ubuntu MATE 16.04 | 19:57 |
| gordonjcp | when I do CTRL-ALT-F1, F2, F3 and so on, I don't get a terminal window up | 19:58 |
| monery | same gordonjcp, I am running it on an armv8 | 19:58 |
| gordonjcp | well, this is on plain ordinary intel | 19:58 |
| gordonjcp | is this specific to MATE or is it upstream in ordinary Ubuntu? | 19:59 |
| alkisg | gordonjcp: which graphics driver? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA | 20:01 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: intel | 20:01 |
| alkisg | monery: ctrl+alt+fX work fine here on a raspberry pi 2 / mate | 20:01 |
| gordonjcp | iirc it's an intel 4 series chipset | 20:02 |
| alkisg | gordonjcp: it should work fine with mate. Did you disable it with no vt switch somewhere in xorg.conf? | 20:02 |
| alkisg | You can run that command and see which drivers are loaded | 20:02 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: it's a fairly fresh install | 20:02 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: with nothing particularly strange done to it | 20:02 |
| gordonjcp | I could run the command if I could open a console | 20:02 |
| gordonjcp | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e12] (rev 03) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [103c:3646] Kernel driver in use: i915 | 20:03 |
| alkisg | Inside vt7, in a normal graphical terminal | 20:03 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: that had locked up | 20:03 |
| alkisg | Ah | 20:03 |
| gordonjcp | I've just rebooted it, same weirdass behaviour | 20:03 |
| gordonjcp | although now the desktop works | 20:03 |
| alkisg | If it locked, then that may be the reason it wouldn't switch | 20:03 |
| gordonjcp | nope, it still won't switch and it never has | 20:03 |
| alkisg | gordonjcp: can you try: sudo chvt 1 | 20:04 |
| alkisg | Then login, and try sudo chvt 7 to come back | 20:05 |
| gordonjcp | nope | 20:05 |
| gordonjcp | same problem | 20:05 |
| alkisg | Any errors in dmesg or in xorg.log when you are trying to switch? | 20:06 |
| gordonjcp | it'll switch to a black screen, no way to type a command in, alt-F7 brings the desktop back | 20:06 |
| gordonjcp | no errors in dmesg that pertain to the display, nothing exciting in Xorg.0.log | 20:06 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: aha, a clue | 20:08 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: it works if I reboot (not restart X, actually reboot) with the second monitor disconnected | 20:09 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: great, looks like I get to dig out my Intel chipset datasheets and go bughunting | 20:09 |
| alkisg | gordonjcp: the sna intel driver isn't very actively developed, and in 16.10 ubuntu will switch to the older one | 20:09 |
| alkisg | I think you can force it now with specifying UXA for the acceleration | 20:10 |
| alkisg | So, maybe a minimal xorg.conf will help | 20:10 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: good point, I've got some old HP desktops that require UXA | 20:10 |
| alkisg | It shouldn't be related to mate at all though, just to the intel driver | 20:10 |
| gordonjcp | I wonder if this slightly newer one needs it - it doesn't have the stripey crap bug that older chipsets have with SNA | 20:10 |
| gordonjcp | alkisg: yup, plug the analogue VGA monitor in, and although I can switch to other VTs none of them are running getty | 21:00 |
| nomic | z.z.z. | 21:19 |
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| mateGrant | yo | 22:39 |
| mateGrant | Anyone have issue with using multi-monitors with the new amdgpu pro drivers? | 22:54 |
| Gallomimia | have they come around? that sounds wonderful | 23:49 |
| Gallomimia | i changed to nvidia due to lack of drivers myself | 23:49 |
| Gallomimia | i'm looking at a graphical grub with the ubuntu-mate logo. it freezes. the graphical grub does not play nice at all with my system. willing to give bug reports on the issue if needed, but for now I just want to disable the graphics. how is this possible? | 23:50 |
| Gallomimia | er, pertinent info: it stops on the unlock full-disk encryption part | 23:51 |
| Gallomimia | freezes and doesn't work the first boot. ctrl-alt-del restarts, 2nd time thru it fails to display the unlock screen but at least captures the passphrase and unlocks, letting me boot. supremely annoying. how can i disable graphical grub? | 23:52 |
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