[00:19] why's my gui filebrowser suddenly look like win95? [00:22] what did i do? how can i undo it? it's not the worst in the world just feels icky [00:22] like i'm drinking bill gates' urine [00:24] Gallomimia: Did you change any themes or styles? [00:24] don't think so. i checked on those... [00:24] the rest of the system is still "normal" [00:25] What was changed or installed or re-configured since it was last the way you wanted it? [00:26] haven't really done anything to the system. aside from add a monitor whose absence was causing problems, windows appearing on the wrong screen [00:26] the absent screen. also, the Main Menu has abherrant behavior: it won't open. [00:27] Gallomimia: Fair enough...have you gone back into the monitors/displays and made sure that all of that was correct - and rebooted afterwards to make sure it was kept right? [00:27] yes [00:27] several times in fact [00:27] what's the name of the file browser? [00:27] cujo? [00:27] Something you can do is to open a terminal - and type: killall -9 mate-panel [00:28] Caja [00:28] right [00:28] i was adding that to my panel as a hot-launch icon when i noticed the trouble [00:28] Gallomimia: In most instances, that will kill and re-load the "main" panel... [00:28] thought i'd changed the default browser to something else [00:28] killall [00:28] doh. [00:29] the problem with the main menu persists. [00:29] It's meant to... [00:30] ah. i've discovered what's going on [00:30] i've got my 27" monitor in portrait mode, and so, my desktop is rather huge and L shaped [00:30] the menu is popping up in empty space! [00:30] Gallomimia: Ah...well, funny that. [00:30] changing the layout fixes the problem. [00:31] :) [00:31] but this layout is dreadful! [00:31] where's the bug report forum >:( [00:31] It's easy enough to muck with - to change around...experimentation...and as well, you can play around with different themes (GTK2/GTK3) to make things less, er, "Windows" like... [00:32] https://ubuntu-mate.community/ => you can find where to do bug-filing there, mate. [00:32] still no idea why the caja browser suddenly took on the win95 theme [00:32] it's the only program that looks that way. [00:32] and it never used to... [00:33] i changed themes and no luck [00:33] It's something freaking out the basic theme - could be the display settings that screwed it up... [00:33] hm. [00:33] You can always "blow out" the configurations and "caches" to see if that helps... [00:34] i'll admit, this portrait view is going to take some getting used to [00:34] um. where might that be? [00:34] In a terminal, you can look in the ~/.config and ~/.cache directories - and figure out what to rename or delete => they'll be re-created on logout/login... [00:36] i don't think this system likes logout :O [00:37] most of the themes seem to have nuked themselves back to default [00:38] Gallomimia: Kinda been through this before - what I ended up doing was exactly what I described...I logged out and did it from the console (CTRL-ALT-F1) - then restarted the DM and logged in - recreated all my stuff, and was happy after that...hmm... [00:38] ah. that's better. danka [00:38] caja looks normal again [00:38] i nuked its entire dir in .config [00:41] now for that menu bug. it's reproducible 100% [00:43] Gallomimia: Yep...been there done that. Ja ja ja ja...I did the same to all the caches and configurations for the menu and mate-panel...seemed to fix it...(well, since last using it...using something else right now) :) [00:43] no, this seems to be entirely related to the screen layout [00:44] the height of my main monitor is less than half of the height of my 2nd [00:45] Gallomimia: You're going to have to sort that out - truly - and you're absolutely sure you've configured everything correctly for your display/monitor settings? Because I have several monitors and it did take me a bit, but once I figured out the "layout", I was able to properly setup the correct resolutions (two different resolutions) - oh, and I had to drag the "menu bar" from the one display to the next to set it as my [00:45] primary...hmm... [00:46] the menu shows when i change the layout to have the tops of both monitors aligned [00:46] but in RL the bottoms of the monitors are aligned [00:46] some routine makes it show above the top of my screen, in a non-visible area [00:47] Gallomimia: And have you looked through the wiki about different display issues? [00:47] if i change the layout to have the landscape screen in the middle of the portrait one's edge, things work fine also [00:47] that i'm going to have to locate [00:47] Hang on... [00:48] Couple of different options for "chatting" or "reading up on" things: https://ubuntu-mate.org/community/ [00:49] Meanwhile, have a read through some things - it's Monday here, and I'm going to get out of the house and get some lunch, mate.... [00:49] cheers [00:49] i'll give a read. but maybe i should get back to what i was doing [00:50] Gallomimia: Coolbeans...see ya on the flipside === YankDownUnder is now known as YDU_away === gary is now known as Guest6709 [02:00] Has anyone gotten Repetier Host working on the RPi 3? === danecan__ is now known as odnacenad === YankDownUnder is now known as YDU_Away === odnacenad is now known as danecando === YankDownUnder is now known as YDU_Away [11:39] is there any video driver for Dell laptops ? The scrolling smoothness is pathetic on my newly installed ubuntu mate [11:40] arun_, dell is not a GPU maker as far as I know [11:40] Please check what graphics you have using the command: inxi -G [11:41] Graphics: Card: Intel Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics [11:41] Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) [11:41] Resolution: 1366x768@60.00hz [11:41] GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Broadwell GT1 [11:41] GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0 [11:41] thats what i'm getting [11:41] So it's Interl integrated graphics. Usually not an issue and drivers are stock installed. Check under "Software & Updates" -> Additional Driver if you've got Inter Microcode in use [11:42] OK [11:43] Also your choice of window manager can impact your experience, use MATE Tweak to test it [14:19] hello! [14:24] hey all [14:56] hi [14:56] sus === lenovo is now known as Guest37835 [15:28] hi [15:47] how are you [16:06] why my plank is not running automatically after restartin [16:15] plank? [16:18] is it the dock thing? [16:19] well planks are forms of dead trees you cant make em you cant really restart em and turn em into living plants again :( its a shame [16:23] but for the docking thingy did you added it to the startup apps? [17:28] привет [17:34] how to install Navigator wound or seven roads on rasberry PI 3 for Ubuntu mate and how to install cards,especially cards that give the video to see how to do it I'm not a Profesional,let the installation video cards [17:53] как на навит установить карты видео есть или тут бесполезно писать?? [18:12] Hi, I'm still having the issue with synapse, crashing when I try to type something. [18:12] I'm using the comment GTK_IM_MODULE='' 'synapse' [18:13] in a terminal window after every reboot [18:13] what is synapse? [18:14] Sorry I'm not sure what do you mean? [18:15] what is it supposed to do? [18:15] is it a photo viewer? software manager? what is it? [18:17] Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). [18:17] Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). [18:17] Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). [18:17] Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). [18:17] Synapse is a graphical launcher enabling you to start applications and also to quickly find and access relevant documents and files (by making use of the zeitgeist engine). [18:17] sorry [18:18] its one of the pre-installed applications on Ubuntu-mate [18:18] wow spam! [18:18] Sorry :D [18:19] https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/synapse [18:19] Not spam I promise :D [18:22] i wonder why it's not in my repositories [18:22] anyway, just go to startup applications in whatever menu you use and add it there :) [18:26] This would resolve the issue. I can open the program that bit is fine, the problem that it crashes when I try to type anything into it [18:27] https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/synapse-crashes-in-16-04/5348/6 [18:27] This might give you some more info of the issue [18:28] I have seen few people posting about the issue but couldn't find a fix :/ [18:29] i have no idea why it segfaults [18:30] if run it from the terminal with GTK_IM_MODULE="" synapse, does it still segfault? [18:32] I have been using this workaround for weeks now but I have to do this in a terminal window after every reboot its not really a fix [18:33] I was expecting a fix for the bug as its affecting many users [18:33] and the application is unusable [18:39] on the ubuntu mate bug report there was a fix for your .desktop file that launches the program [18:39] what is the fix? is it just an update fix? [18:40] can I have the link? [18:40] in this https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/synapse-crashes-in-16-04/5348/8 [18:40] the third last comment, by scarciuz === az___ is now known as az_ === r00tobo[BNC] is now known as r00tobo [19:57] evening [19:57] I'm running Ubuntu MATE 16.04 [19:58] when I do CTRL-ALT-F1, F2, F3 and so on, I don't get a terminal window up [19:58] same gordonjcp, I am running it on an armv8 [19:58] well, this is on plain ordinary intel [19:59] is this specific to MATE or is it upstream in ordinary Ubuntu? [20:01] gordonjcp: which graphics driver? lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA [20:01] alkisg: intel [20:01] monery: ctrl+alt+fX work fine here on a raspberry pi 2 / mate [20:02] iirc it's an intel 4 series chipset [20:02] gordonjcp: it should work fine with mate. Did you disable it with no vt switch somewhere in xorg.conf? [20:02] You can run that command and see which drivers are loaded [20:02] alkisg: it's a fairly fresh install [20:02] alkisg: with nothing particularly strange done to it [20:02] I could run the command if I could open a console [20:03] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e12] (rev 03) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [103c:3646] Kernel driver in use: i915 [20:03] Inside vt7, in a normal graphical terminal [20:03] alkisg: that had locked up [20:03] Ah [20:03] I've just rebooted it, same weirdass behaviour [20:03] although now the desktop works [20:03] If it locked, then that may be the reason it wouldn't switch [20:03] nope, it still won't switch and it never has [20:04] gordonjcp: can you try: sudo chvt 1 [20:05] Then login, and try sudo chvt 7 to come back [20:05] nope [20:05] same problem [20:06] Any errors in dmesg or in xorg.log when you are trying to switch? [20:06] it'll switch to a black screen, no way to type a command in, alt-F7 brings the desktop back [20:06] no errors in dmesg that pertain to the display, nothing exciting in Xorg.0.log [20:08] alkisg: aha, a clue [20:09] alkisg: it works if I reboot (not restart X, actually reboot) with the second monitor disconnected [20:09] alkisg: great, looks like I get to dig out my Intel chipset datasheets and go bughunting [20:09] gordonjcp: the sna intel driver isn't very actively developed, and in 16.10 ubuntu will switch to the older one [20:10] I think you can force it now with specifying UXA for the acceleration [20:10] So, maybe a minimal xorg.conf will help [20:10] alkisg: good point, I've got some old HP desktops that require UXA [20:10] It shouldn't be related to mate at all though, just to the intel driver [20:10] I wonder if this slightly newer one needs it - it doesn't have the stripey crap bug that older chipsets have with SNA [21:00] alkisg: yup, plug the analogue VGA monitor in, and although I can switch to other VTs none of them are running getty [21:19] z.z.z. === Grant is now known as Guest86341 [22:39] yo [22:54] Anyone have issue with using multi-monitors with the new amdgpu pro drivers? [23:49] have they come around? that sounds wonderful [23:49] i changed to nvidia due to lack of drivers myself [23:50] i'm looking at a graphical grub with the ubuntu-mate logo. it freezes. the graphical grub does not play nice at all with my system. willing to give bug reports on the issue if needed, but for now I just want to disable the graphics. how is this possible? [23:51] er, pertinent info: it stops on the unlock full-disk encryption part [23:52] freezes and doesn't work the first boot. ctrl-alt-del restarts, 2nd time thru it fails to display the unlock screen but at least captures the passphrase and unlocks, letting me boot. supremely annoying. how can i disable graphical grub?