| cmaloney | We'll get started soon | 00:59 |
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| cmaloney | Anyone here? | 00:59 |
| gamerchick02_ | i am but i'm watching Lewis | 01:03 |
| cmaloney | Lewis? | 01:03 |
| gamerchick02_ | Inspector Lewis on Masterpiece Mystery | 01:04 |
| gamerchick02_ | its the final season | 01:04 |
| cmaloney | Ah | 01:04 |
| gamerchick02_ | or series | 01:04 |
| gamerchick02_ | i'm a HUGE Kevin Whately fan and a HUGE Robbie/Laura shipper. | 01:05 |
| gamerchick02_ | ahem | 01:05 |
| cmaloney | Watching the THelonious Monk documentary | 01:20 |
| cmaloney | https://www.amazon.com/Thelonious-Monk-Straight-No-Chaser/dp/B000053VC9 | 01:21 |
| gamerchick02_ | nice! | 01:22 |
| jrwren | totally distracted by olympics | 01:25 |
| gamerchick02_ | that's ok i'm distracted by Lewis | 01:26 |
| cscheib | cmaloney: interesting. that wasn't the case 6 months ago when I looked | 02:02 |
| cscheib | but that may have been the AT&T MVNOs | 02:02 |
| Scary_Guy | I was distracted by sleep, not that I'd really have anything to say anyway | 05:02 |
| Scary_Guy | jrwren, would something like http://openbts.org work? | 05:10 |
| Scary_Guy | just set up your own personal tower, fuck'em | 05:11 |
| Scary_Guy | also if you plan on traveling I'd look into a dual-sim phone | 05:12 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:16 |
| cmaloney | morning | 12:11 |
| Scary_Guy | hi | 13:48 |
| _stink_ | yo | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | morning pt 2 | 13:51 |
| _stink_ | heh | 13:52 |
| Scary_Guy | I haven't really thought about it, we have an afternoon, why no forenoon or preenoon? | 13:53 |
| cmaloney | Because we probably did away with those terms | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | Much in the same way we dealth with half-pennies | 13:54 |
| Scary_Guy | well afternoon seems just as valid. also pennies seem just as useless now, let's get rid of those too | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | And furlongs | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | Death to furlongs | 13:55 |
| Scary_Guy | death to the imperial system in general | 13:56 |
| Scary_Guy | also every other date format than YYYY-MM-DD, and 12 hour time | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | ++ | 13:58 |
| Scary_Guy | and the Gregorian calander | 13:58 |
| Scary_Guy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar | 13:59 |
| jrwren | all time should be based on seconds since unix epoch | 14:03 |
| Scary_Guy | no, screw that, and year zero too. all time should be based on the human era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar | 14:06 |
| jrwren | unix epoch is the start of the human era that matters. :p | 14:08 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Totes | 14:12 |
| cmaloney | That calendar reminds me of that naff idea that Swatch had for Internet beats | 14:13 |
| cmaloney | 634 beats | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | https://www.swatch.com/en_us/internet-time/ | 14:15 |
| Scary_Guy | was just reading the wiki on it | 14:15 |
| Scary_Guy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time is a thing too | 14:17 |
| Scary_Guy | although I kind of like the idea of being able to use an 8 hour or 6 hour clock as well. | 14:17 |
| Scary_Guy | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37005226 | 14:20 |
| cmaloney | That's old news, sadly | 14:20 |
| cmaloney | Although yay, it affects my handset. | 14:20 |
| Scary_Guy | mine too | 14:20 |
| Scary_Guy | also funny the blackphone 1 and 2 are on there | 14:21 |
| Scary_Guy | I need to just break down and get a Nexus | 14:32 |
| Scary_Guy | Then I can run this: https://copperhead.co/android/ | 14:32 |
| jrwren | then you can get rooted in that quadrooter thing. | 14:33 |
| Scary_Guy | wat? | 14:33 |
| jrwren | i was j/k. | 14:33 |
| jrwren | the quadrooter thing came from defcon this weekend. qualcomm drivers are super vulnerable. | 14:34 |
| jrwren | nexus uses qualcomm chip, so its vulnerable. | 14:34 |
| Scary_Guy | goddamnit | 14:34 |
| jrwren | http://thehackernews.com/2016/08/hack-android-phone.html | 14:35 |
| Scary_Guy | oh, that was in the link I posted | 14:36 |
| jrwren | yeah, lol | 14:37 |
| Scary_Guy | what I get for skimming it | 14:37 |
| Scary_Guy | but I could still get an OG Nexus 5, I don't see that listed | 14:38 |
| jrwren | copperhead os looks like what apple ios does by default. | 14:38 |
| * jrwren ducks | 14:38 | |
| Scary_Guy | but iOS isn't open source | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: DOn't make me shun you. ;) | 14:39 |
| jrwren | I already ducked all these comments :] | 14:40 |
| * cmaloney directs the heat of a thousand shuns at jrwren | 14:40 | |
| Scary_Guy | If I wanted an apple like device I'd at least get one with style https://www.turingphone.com/ | 14:44 |
| Scary_Guy | (if it ever actually releases that is) | 14:44 |
| jrwren | i'm all locked into apple ecosystem now. i wish it were all open source, but its not, and its too convenient for me to care :[ | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | for me is wasn't the open source, but my inability to use a better device with my other stuff | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | "this roku is awesome...oh wait I can't get at any of my apple purchases, or get my roku purchaes on my apple..." | 14:51 |
| jrwren | i don't purchase media other than CDs, so that hasn't been an issue for me ;] | 14:52 |
| jrwren | not trying to suggest your case isn't valid. I'm highlightning how diff our experiences are ;] | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | custom built customer | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, understand | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | but you've never wanted to bring anything non-apple into your tech mix and been frustrated? | 14:53 |
| Scary_Guy | I have a great story, so I took photos on an old boss's iPhone to sell crap on craigslist. then I try to transfer them to a PC | 14:53 |
| jrwren | hrm, yes now that you mention it. | 14:54 |
| jrwren | I hate that airplay is closed. | 14:54 |
| jrwren | the first airplay video was wide open protocol. TRIVIAL to implement | 14:54 |
| Scary_Guy | he said I needed to use some program called "ifunbox" to transfer them | 14:54 |
| Scary_Guy | I need nothing with an android | 14:54 |
| jrwren | then the airplay mirror came out with new protocol and it all went closed. | 14:54 |
| jrwren | yes, it angers me greatly. | 14:54 |
| jrwren | android and chrome are just as bad in this regarud. | 14:55 |
| Scary_Guy | that's why I use firefox | 14:55 |
| jrwren | Scary_Guy: that is not true at all. an iphone's camera shows up as any USB camera to a windows PC. | 14:55 |
| jrwren | what does firefox do? | 14:55 |
| Scary_Guy | well I don't know why his system didn't see it then | 14:55 |
| Scary_Guy | this was years ago | 14:55 |
| Scary_Guy | firefox isn't chrome, that's all it needs to do | 14:56 |
| jrwren | ah, yes, firefox is my favorite browser too. ;] | 14:56 |
| Scary_Guy | to me, apple is like TPM gone wrong. It locks the user down instead of everyone else | 14:59 |
| jrwren | its true. | 15:01 |
| jrwren | the flip side to that is also true IMO. As long as you play in the confines, the experience is very good. | 15:02 |
| Scary_Guy | what is worse is that the users are so smug about it. they aren't selling a device, they're selling a status symbol | 15:02 |
| jrwren | ha! that is sad but true. | 15:03 |
| jrwren | for me, its just a tool which works well. | 15:03 |
| Scary_Guy | can't sideload apps, can't get root, can't load your own OS. I mean some android devices suffer from those issues as well | 15:03 |
| Scary_Guy | well, many | 15:03 |
| Scary_Guy | if that's all you need it for then great | 15:03 |
| Scary_Guy | but I also don't see the point in paying $700 for a device that shatters on impact with a feather either | 15:04 |
| jrwren | that has not been my experience. | 15:04 |
| Scary_Guy | worked in a phone store, most of the screens that needed repair were iPhone | 15:05 |
| jrwren | what models? | 15:05 |
| jrwren | i've never broke an iphone and I mostly did not use a case. | 15:05 |
| Scary_Guy | I don't know, I never touched them, but some people are more careful than others | 15:05 |
| jrwren | 3gs and 4s were solid. SE seems solid | 15:05 |
| jrwren | i could see 6 being fragile | 15:06 |
| jrwren | I did put a nice gauge in my SE recently. | 15:06 |
| Scary_Guy | the first 6+'s bent, that was funny | 15:06 |
| Scary_Guy | also was it the 5 which had both front and back glass? yeah that was great | 15:06 |
| Scary_Guy | anyway boss knew I loved android and hated apple, so he worked on those and I just focused on android | 15:07 |
| jrwren | 4 and 4s did too. | 15:08 |
| jrwren | i have a 4 with cracked back glass. | 15:08 |
| Scary_Guy | I did jailbreak a couple iphones, and loaded pineapple on a 3 | 15:08 |
| jrwren | one of the things that bum me out with all these old iphones is... there is nothing 3rd party you can do with them. | 15:08 |
| jrwren | its a damn shame you can't repurpose an old iphone 4 for something. | 15:08 |
| Scary_Guy | sorry, not pineapple, iDroid | 15:09 |
| Scary_Guy | http://lifehacker.com/5693309/how-to-install-android-on-an-iphone-in-six-easy-steps | 15:09 |
| jrwren | i'm pretty sure that does not work anymore. | 15:10 |
| Scary_Guy | no, it doesn't | 15:10 |
| Scary_Guy | but at the time I thought it was funny | 15:10 |
| Scary_Guy | also your device is older so it MIGHT work on it | 15:11 |
| Scary_Guy | otherwise it makes a neat wifi camera | 15:11 |
| jrwren | if you keep up with OS updates, those often include firmware patches which prevent the jailbreak. | 15:11 |
| jrwren | yup, was trying to find decent wifi camera software, none found. | 15:11 |
| Scary_Guy | wow, that sucks | 15:12 |
| jrwren | its ok. i can write my own. | 15:13 |
| Scary_Guy | but can you then sideload it on there? :P | 15:14 |
| jrwren | yes. | 15:15 |
| Scary_Guy | well at least that's something then | 15:15 |
| jrwren | dev cert is good for a while. | 15:15 |
| jrwren | at least you can make a dev cert without being a $99/yr member now. | 15:15 |
| Scary_Guy | oh good, I was worried about that too | 15:15 |
| jrwren | yeah, they changed that last year. A very welcome change. | 15:16 |
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