[00:59] We'll get started soon [00:59] Anyone here? [01:03] i am but i'm watching Lewis [01:03] Lewis? [01:04] Inspector Lewis on Masterpiece Mystery [01:04] its the final season [01:04] Ah [01:04] or series [01:05] i'm a HUGE Kevin Whately fan and a HUGE Robbie/Laura shipper. [01:05] ahem [01:20] Watching the THelonious Monk documentary [01:21] https://www.amazon.com/Thelonious-Monk-Straight-No-Chaser/dp/B000053VC9 [01:22] nice! [01:25] totally distracted by olympics [01:26] that's ok i'm distracted by Lewis [02:02] cmaloney: interesting. that wasn't the case 6 months ago when I looked [02:02] but that may have been the AT&T MVNOs [05:02] I was distracted by sleep, not that I'd really have anything to say anyway [05:10] jrwren, would something like http://openbts.org work? [05:11] just set up your own personal tower, fuck'em [05:12] also if you plan on traveling I'd look into a dual-sim phone [11:16] morning [12:11] morning [13:48] hi [13:50] <_stink_> yo [13:51] morning pt 2 [13:52] <_stink_> heh [13:53] I haven't really thought about it, we have an afternoon, why no forenoon or preenoon? [13:54] Because we probably did away with those terms [13:54] Much in the same way we dealth with half-pennies [13:55] well afternoon seems just as valid. also pennies seem just as useless now, let's get rid of those too [13:55] And furlongs [13:55] Death to furlongs [13:56] death to the imperial system in general [13:58] also every other date format than YYYY-MM-DD, and 12 hour time [13:58] ++ [13:58] and the Gregorian calander [13:59] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar [14:03] all time should be based on seconds since unix epoch [14:06] no, screw that, and year zero too. all time should be based on the human era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar [14:08] unix epoch is the start of the human era that matters. :p [14:12] jrwren: Totes [14:13] That calendar reminds me of that naff idea that Swatch had for Internet beats [14:14] 634 beats [14:15] https://www.swatch.com/en_us/internet-time/ [14:15] was just reading the wiki on it [14:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time is a thing too [14:17] although I kind of like the idea of being able to use an 8 hour or 6 hour clock as well. [14:20] http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37005226 [14:20] That's old news, sadly [14:20] Although yay, it affects my handset. [14:20] mine too [14:21] also funny the blackphone 1 and 2 are on there [14:32] I need to just break down and get a Nexus [14:32] Then I can run this: https://copperhead.co/android/ [14:33] then you can get rooted in that quadrooter thing. [14:33] wat? [14:33] i was j/k. [14:34] the quadrooter thing came from defcon this weekend. qualcomm drivers are super vulnerable. [14:34] nexus uses qualcomm chip, so its vulnerable. [14:34] goddamnit [14:35] http://thehackernews.com/2016/08/hack-android-phone.html [14:36] oh, that was in the link I posted [14:37] yeah, lol [14:37] what I get for skimming it [14:38] but I could still get an OG Nexus 5, I don't see that listed [14:38] copperhead os looks like what apple ios does by default. [14:38] * jrwren ducks [14:39] but iOS isn't open source [14:39] jrwren: DOn't make me shun you. ;) [14:40] I already ducked all these comments :] [14:40] * cmaloney directs the heat of a thousand shuns at jrwren [14:44] If I wanted an apple like device I'd at least get one with style https://www.turingphone.com/ [14:44] (if it ever actually releases that is) [14:50] i'm all locked into apple ecosystem now. i wish it were all open source, but its not, and its too convenient for me to care :[ [14:50] for me is wasn't the open source, but my inability to use a better device with my other stuff [14:51] "this roku is awesome...oh wait I can't get at any of my apple purchases, or get my roku purchaes on my apple..." [14:52] i don't purchase media other than CDs, so that hasn't been an issue for me ;] [14:52] not trying to suggest your case isn't valid. I'm highlightning how diff our experiences are ;] [14:52] custom built customer [14:52] yea, understand [14:53] but you've never wanted to bring anything non-apple into your tech mix and been frustrated? [14:53] I have a great story, so I took photos on an old boss's iPhone to sell crap on craigslist. then I try to transfer them to a PC [14:54] hrm, yes now that you mention it. [14:54] I hate that airplay is closed. [14:54] the first airplay video was wide open protocol. TRIVIAL to implement [14:54] he said I needed to use some program called "ifunbox" to transfer them [14:54] I need nothing with an android [14:54] then the airplay mirror came out with new protocol and it all went closed. [14:54] yes, it angers me greatly. [14:55] android and chrome are just as bad in this regarud. [14:55] that's why I use firefox [14:55] Scary_Guy: that is not true at all. an iphone's camera shows up as any USB camera to a windows PC. [14:55] what does firefox do? [14:55] well I don't know why his system didn't see it then [14:55] this was years ago [14:56] firefox isn't chrome, that's all it needs to do [14:56] ah, yes, firefox is my favorite browser too. ;] [14:59] to me, apple is like TPM gone wrong. It locks the user down instead of everyone else [15:01] its true. [15:02] the flip side to that is also true IMO. As long as you play in the confines, the experience is very good. [15:02] what is worse is that the users are so smug about it. they aren't selling a device, they're selling a status symbol [15:03] ha! that is sad but true. [15:03] for me, its just a tool which works well. [15:03] can't sideload apps, can't get root, can't load your own OS. I mean some android devices suffer from those issues as well [15:03] well, many [15:03] if that's all you need it for then great [15:04] but I also don't see the point in paying $700 for a device that shatters on impact with a feather either [15:04] that has not been my experience. [15:05] worked in a phone store, most of the screens that needed repair were iPhone [15:05] what models? [15:05] i've never broke an iphone and I mostly did not use a case. [15:05] I don't know, I never touched them, but some people are more careful than others [15:05] 3gs and 4s were solid. SE seems solid [15:06] i could see 6 being fragile [15:06] I did put a nice gauge in my SE recently. [15:06] the first 6+'s bent, that was funny [15:06] also was it the 5 which had both front and back glass? yeah that was great [15:07] anyway boss knew I loved android and hated apple, so he worked on those and I just focused on android [15:08] 4 and 4s did too. [15:08] i have a 4 with cracked back glass. [15:08] I did jailbreak a couple iphones, and loaded pineapple on a 3 [15:08] one of the things that bum me out with all these old iphones is... there is nothing 3rd party you can do with them. [15:08] its a damn shame you can't repurpose an old iphone 4 for something. [15:09] sorry, not pineapple, iDroid [15:09] http://lifehacker.com/5693309/how-to-install-android-on-an-iphone-in-six-easy-steps [15:10] i'm pretty sure that does not work anymore. [15:10] no, it doesn't [15:10] but at the time I thought it was funny [15:11] also your device is older so it MIGHT work on it [15:11] otherwise it makes a neat wifi camera [15:11] if you keep up with OS updates, those often include firmware patches which prevent the jailbreak. [15:11] yup, was trying to find decent wifi camera software, none found. [15:12] wow, that sucks [15:13] its ok. i can write my own. [15:14] but can you then sideload it on there? :P [15:15] yes. [15:15] well at least that's something then [15:15] dev cert is good for a while. [15:15] at least you can make a dev cert without being a $99/yr member now. [15:15] oh good, I was worried about that too [15:16] yeah, they changed that last year. A very welcome change. === ColonelPanic002_ is now known as ColonelPanic001