[00:01] <DANtheBEASTman> somebody mind pasting the output of this command for me? i don't have an ubuntu machine on-hand for me to test..
[00:01] <DANtheBEASTman> awk -F'=' '$1 ~ /^NAME/ {gsub(/"/, "", $2); print $2}' /etc/os-release
[00:04] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Ubuntu
[00:05] <mariooliveira> Hi did apt-get install cgroup-bin  and i dont have /etc/cgroup.conf file.
[00:05] <heyson> Hola
[00:05] <mariooliveira> hola
[00:05] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: vunderbar, danke
[00:05] <heyson> este canal es para consultas y esas cosas?
[00:05] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: you're welcome :)
[00:06] <DANtheBEASTman> ! Es | heyson
[00:08] <motaka2> hello after two hours I turned on my ubuntu 14.04 and on my wired modem I dont see the light of the computer with ubuntu is on, I changed the cable , it didnt work, is my network adapter  out of order? is there a way to check that ?
[00:10] <watermark> Hi! I need help to make an WINDOWS USB BOOT KEY on Ubuntu 16.04
[00:10] <Hydr0p0nX> motaka2 - ifconfig?
[00:10] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: it gives some results, do you want to see?
[00:11] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22638815/
[00:13] <Hydr0p0nX> motaka2 - is it the ethernet or usb adapter?
[00:13] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: U dont know the difference
[00:13] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: I dont know the difference
[00:14] <Hydr0p0nX> motaka2 - easiest thing is just trying " sudo ifconfig eth0 up "
[00:15] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: it outputs nothing
[00:16] <mariooliveira> way dont u use network manager?
[00:16] <Hydr0p0nX> run ifconfig again and see if it has an address now
[00:20] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: I have conneted my computer to internet using my mobile hotspot thtering
[00:21] <Hydr0p0nX> motaka2 - then thats the usb device show in ifconfig, does eth0 show any ip address now?
[00:22] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: I gave you the link to all it shows
[00:22] <Hydr0p0nX> did you run ifconfig eth0 up ?
[00:23] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: yes, it outputed nothing
[00:23] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: donkarlo@donkarlo:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[00:23] <motaka2> donkarlo@donkarlo:~$
[00:23] <Hydr0p0nX> that's normal, did you run ifconfig and check what it showed for eth0 after ?
[00:24] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22638815/
[00:24] <Hydr0p0nX> yea, that's the same link from before
[00:24] <motaka2> You I disconnect the usb thetering and run again ?
[00:24] <Hydr0p0nX> ifconfig eth0 up attempts to change the state of eth0
[00:25] <Hydr0p0nX> upi dpm
[00:25] <Hydr0p0nX> you don't need to disconnect from usb, just run ifconfig and see if eth0 has an ip address assigned
[00:26] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: I ran it again, here is the result :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22640300/
[00:27] <Hydr0p0nX> does dmesg show any errors ?
[00:27] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: is that a command i should run in terminal ?
[00:27] <Hydr0p0nX> yes, dmesg basically just shows the syslog
[00:29] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22640565/
[00:30] <mariooliveira> motaka2, way dodnt u use network-manager?
[00:30] <motaka2> mariooliveira: How?
[00:30] <mariooliveira> very easy to set up
[00:31] <mariooliveira> motaka2,  u using desktop?
[00:31] <mariooliveira> gnome or mate?
[00:31] <motaka2> mariooliveira: i use lubuntu
[00:32] <mariooliveira> motaka2, type service network-manager status
[00:32] <Hydr0p0nX> motaka2 - have you got another port on your modem/router ? dmesg shows :  eth0: no link during initialization
[00:32] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: I have 4 ports
[00:33] <motaka2> mariooliveira: donkarlo@donkarlo:~$ service network-manager status
[00:33] <motaka2> status: Unknown job: network-manager
[00:33] <Hydr0p0nX> motaka2 - try another port on the router
[00:33] <MartynKeigher> hey all.. whats the best way to have a SH script run on startup?
[00:34] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: It doesnt work
[00:34] <mariooliveira> motaka2,  apt-get install network-manager
[00:34] <mariooliveira> lubuntu i think comes with network manager
[00:34] <mariooliveira> weird
[00:34] <danielthebague> hi i seen after the upgrade to 16.04.1 lts my ATI graphics card is unsupported i have since replaced it with an nvidia gt610 but get this before grub loads on my screen can not display this mode. change computer display input to 1680x1050 at 60 hz
[00:36] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: here is the result after changing the port:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/22641235/
[00:36] <mariooliveira> motaka2,  ubuntu mate is great  even for low end computer like mine
[00:37] <mariooliveira> mate is basicle gnome 2
[00:37] <motaka2> I wanted to start a new project, whenever I want to start something new, a problem takes place
[00:37] <mariooliveira> motaka2, did u instale it?
[00:39] <mariooliveira> motaka2, the only problem i have with network manager is with my wireless card i have to config manualy without network manager
[00:41] <mariooliveira> motaka2, you could also try dhclient eth0 to see if get at ip adress
[00:42] <Tin_man> did they rename IDLE to something else lately, I searched the Store, and type in idle, and the only match was Caffeine that came up? I downloaded idle 2.7 with apt-get, but was wanting 3.5?
[00:44] <motaka2> Hydr0p0nX: Are you there? sorry I was disconnected
[00:44] <mariooliveira> motaka2, did u install network manager?
[00:45] <motaka2> mariooliveira: no, it gave me errors
[00:45] <mariooliveira> try also dhclient eth0
[00:45] <mariooliveira> ok
[00:45] <motaka2> mariooliveira: I am on my laptop now
[00:45] <PenguinMan98> Hey smart people. I need help.  My mail.log.1 file is growing ridiculously fast. It looks like somebody is trolling my server for valid email addresses at my @myDomain.com. How can I stop this?
[00:46] <mariooliveira> motaka2, what error did u get?
[00:46] <PenguinMan98> Strike that, they7 are sending the emails to many many different domains
[00:46] <PenguinMan98> I need this to stop obviously but I'm an ubuntu newb
[00:46] <orlock> PenguinMan98: Turn it off?.. Otherwise, welcome to the internet?
[00:47] <PenguinMan98> What resources can you point me to to secure my mailserver?
[00:47] <motaka2> mariooliveira: previousely, when I plugged a cable to my computer network adapter, an orrange light was on, now I dont see that light. does that mean I should buy a new network adapter ?
[00:47] <orlock> What mail server?
[00:47] <PenguinMan98> I'm on  a VPS
[00:47] <PenguinMan98> Ubuntu 14
[00:47] <orlock> Sendmail, qmail, postfix...
[00:47] <Tin_man> never mind found it in searching the cache idle-python3.5
[00:48] <mariooliveira> motaka2, there are other network managers like wicd
[00:49] <PenguinMan98> orlock: I .. don't know?
[00:49] <motaka2> mariooliveira:  dhclient eth0 is hangged in terminal
[00:49] <PenguinMan98> Oh, postfix
[00:49] <PenguinMan98> It's all over the logs
[00:50] <rsgiuliani> hey
[00:50] <rsgiuliani> hello
[00:50] <rsgiuliani> hols
[00:51] <mariooliveira> motaka2, take a good look  at this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration   they have very good manual howto
[00:51] <Apteryx> How to access grub settings when booting? I gives me black screen because of mode settings.
[00:52] <motaka2> I think I should by a new network adapter
[00:52] <notadeveloper> man amazon just charged me for prime membership
[00:52] <notadeveloper> anyway its cool i use their OS
[00:52] <mariooliveira> motaka2, take alook at link i gave you
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: MBR partitioning hold a shift key .. UEFI spam the escape key .
[00:53] <motaka2> mariooliveira: It is too long and I am angry, i really cant read it. thanks for your help
[00:54] <mariooliveira> motaka2, network manager has also  console tools like  nm-xxx
[00:54] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: OK, thanks!
[00:55] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Apteryx
[00:55] <notadeveloper> thanks now i got to write something about product, content and entertainment services
[00:57] <mariooliveira> type in consol nmtui
[01:01] <popcorn_lover> what are the steps in troubleshooting a computer that won't even make it to a bootloader?
[01:02] <popcorn_lover> sometimes I get to a bootloader and select an OS then it jitters and cuts out before I get into the OS
[01:03] <Guest14475> Hello Guys
[01:04] <Guest14475> I'm got a problem with ubuntu 16.04
[01:04] <motaka2> mariooliveira: sudo service network-manager status    says    status: unknown job: network manager
[01:04] <popcorn_lover> what's up
[01:04] <Bashing-om> popcorn_lover: What does bios say about handing off to the boot code on the hard drive ?
[01:04] <ahoneybun> Guest14475: 16.04 uses systemd
[01:04] <Guest14475> When I boot the SO, it stop at password, it's like it got suspend
[01:05] <ahoneybun> opps
[01:05] <Guest14475> So I have to press the power botton to get SO back
[01:11] <Apteryx> Is an AMD R9 285 supposed to be bootable with mode settings on Linux 4.4?
[01:11] <Apteryx> by 'bootable' I mean supported.
[01:20] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Yes, supported . see: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1604-amd&num=1 .
[01:23] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: OK. Thanks again!
[01:39] <sarek> I cant modify my cronjobs now for some reason. danny@danny:~$ crontab -e crontabs/danny/: fdopen: Permission denieddanny@danny:~$ id uid=501(danny) gid=1000(danny) groups=1000(danny),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),33(www data),46(plugdev),113(lpadmin),128(sambashare),131(plex) . Any ideas?
[01:40] <Apteryx> How can I check if amdgpu driver is in use?
[01:43] <rypervenche> sarek: namei -om /var/spool/cron/crontabs/*
[01:43] <rypervenche> sarek: Put the output in a pastebin, please.
[01:44] <sarek> rypervenche https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2lZi7oqM/
[01:44] <uio> Hi, using ubuntu 12.04 and when I try to change the desktop background using an image from unsplash.com (this one : https://unsplash.com/search/lime?photo=c8TWWQ5ZnUw) then the firefox cpu hits 99% and the fans go a bit crazy. Any thoughts on why? I just installed all updated and restarted.....
[01:44] <rypervenche> sarek: Hmmm, what about: ls -l /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[01:45] <sarek> rypervenche:  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/An0lXN5d/
[01:47] <uio> free -m gives 5642 as free mem
[01:48] <rypervenche> sarek: ls -l /usr/bin/crontab
[01:48] <sarek> rypervenche https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nboj4MmD/
[01:49] <_memory_yancy_> crontab -l
[01:49] <rypervenche> sarek: That's why.
[01:49] <rypervenche> sarek: You changed the permissions on your crontab binary.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: ' sudo lshw -C display " the configuration line will say what driver is loaded .
[01:49] <sarek> What should i do rypervenche
[01:49] <rypervenche> sarek: sudo chown root:crontab /usr/bin/crontab
[01:50] <sarek> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/05oS5lm5/
[01:50] <sarek> rypervenche https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2tn38H0m/
[01:51] <sarek> _memory_yancy_ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/cNrOKghd/
[01:51] <rypervenche> sarek: Yes, now you need to change the perms, one sec
[01:51] <sarek> ok
[01:52] <rypervenche> sarek: sudo chmod 2755 /usr/bin/crontab
[01:52] <sarek> worked rypervenche thanks
[01:53] <rypervenche> sarek: No problem. Next time, don't run permission changes to files unless you really know what you're doing.
[01:54] <sarek> ok
[01:54] <rypervenche> :)
[01:55] <sarek> i did this rypervenche http://askubuntu.com/a/106935/135261
[01:56] <rypervenche> sarek: Do me a favor and run this: ls -l /usr/bin/test
[01:57] <sarek> rypervenche https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aj8iU066/
[01:57] <rypervenche> sarek: Ok good. I thought you may have done it to all of your binaries, but it doesn't look as though you have.
[01:58] <sarek> rypervenche: the problem with what i followed in the link above is '/etc/login.def' doesnt exist
[01:58] <sarek> he said 'Once you change your UID the login manager will stop listing that user. You have to change the UID_MIN option in /etc/login.def from 1000 to 5'
[01:58] <sarek> 00
[01:59] <rypervenche> sarek: What is it you are trying to do?
[01:59] <sarek> exactly what the OP of that question was trying to do word for word
[02:00] <sarek> And the 'answer' worked
[02:00] <sarek> other than that one eror about/etc/login.def not existing
[02:02] <orion_> *
[02:02] <Apteryx> I can boot using 'nomodeset', but the video drops at boot time if I leave it. Even with using nomodeset, I have OpenGL 3.0 mesa support. Any idea as to what to look for? I read that amdgpu open source driver *requires* mode set.
[02:03] <Apteryx> (I'm trying to sort a video mode setting issue for Ubuntu 16.04)
[02:07] <etyrnal> is it impossible to use ati radeon hd 2400 xt/pro with ubuntu 15 or 16 ?
[02:10] <pauljw_vm> !binarydriver | etyrnal
[02:14] <dax> !ati
[02:26] <Geom> if k transfer my HDD (where my ubuntu resides) do i need to edit just the fstab, or do i need more of that?
[02:26] <Geom> on a new computer
[02:26] <reisio> depends
[02:26] <reisio> on a new computer, you might need to do other things
[02:26] <cfhowlett> transfer means you would need to edit your guid's at the very least.
[02:27] <reisio> what?
[02:27] <Geom> can you define what depends mean?
[02:27] <reisio> Geom: not identical hardware, right?
[02:27] <Geom> reisio:  no
[02:28] <reisio> so any customizations you've done to the kernel
[02:28] <reisio> telling additional modules to load, or not load
[02:28] <reisio> you may well not want that
[02:28] <reisio> you might further need new particular modules loaded
[02:28] <reisio> or it might just work
[02:28] <Geom> i have done nothing in kernel. its a stock install
[02:28] <reisio> there's no particular harm in swapping it in and seeing if it boots
[02:29] <NSABear> So I'm setting up a PTPP vpn server.
[02:29] <Geom> the only thing i configured is smb
[02:29] <NSABear> How could I go about making it authenticate against mysql?
[02:29] <Geom> reisio:  il donthat first and report back
[02:29] <Geom> do that*
[02:29] <reisio> k
[02:30] <NSABear> I'll be completely honest. I'm surprised no one has attacked me for using PTPP
[02:31] <NSABear> Well the other option is L2TP
[02:32] <reisio> hard to have an interest at all after you said 'mysql'
[02:33] <NSABear> What would you suggest.
[02:34] <reisio> mariadb would be a no brainer, postgresql if you want like, better
[02:34] <NSABear> ok but that doesn't answer my question remotely.
[02:35] <reisio> course not, I think I led with it was hard to have an interest :D
[02:35] <NSABear> I'd love to use PTPP as the goal isn't security.
[02:35] <NSABear> The goal is to block ads thoguth sinkholing on the go
[02:39] <Apteryx> I migrated from Ubuntu 15.10 to 16.04, I was using proprietary AMD driver (fglrx), now I think it is using the amdgpu open source driver (Linux 4.4), but I'm loosing video unless I use the 'nomodeset' boot option. Any idea?
[02:40] <reisio> Apteryx: use nomodeset?
[02:40] <mbtamuli12_> How can I install from a tar.xz package? More specifically, http://download.gna.org/wkhtmltopdf/0.12/0.12.3/wkhtmltox-0.12.3_linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz
[02:41] <mbtamuli12_> It contains these directories - bin, include, lib and share
[02:41] <mbtamuli12_> The so bin contains the binary.
[02:41] <mbtamuli12_> I can move it to /opt and symlink it to /usr/bin
[02:42] <mbtamuli12_> But what about the other directories?
[02:42] <mbtamuli12_> Or am I completely going about it the wrong way?
[02:42] <reisio> mbtamuli12_: you want something called wkhtmltox?
[02:43] <mbtamuli12_> Yes.
[02:43] <reisio> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=wkhtmltopdf
[02:44] <mbtamuli12_> Well, it contains a older release.
[02:44] <reisio> ?
[02:44] <Apteryx> reisio: Does this not completely turn amdgpu off?
[02:45] <mbtamuli12_> reisio: Well the repo contains an older version. I want to install the latest version.
[02:46] <reisio> Apteryx: AIUI it will merely disable it until X is loaded
[02:46] <reisio> two part system
[02:46] <reisio> mbtamuli12_: why
[02:48] <juan_> hello i have kubuntu 14.04 how can i upgrade  can anyone help
[02:48] <cfhowlett> juan_, sudo apt update && sudo full-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[02:49] <thetrav> so I'm seeing a lot of installation things that tell me to do something like `echo "deb http://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu "$(lsb_release -sc)"/mongodb-org/3.0 multiverse" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-3.0.list `
[02:49] <thetrav> however I'm aware that there's apt-add-repository
[02:49] <thetrav> is the former convertable to the latter?
[02:49] <juan_> ok will try thanks
[02:49] <thetrav> I trued just apt-add-repository with the http uri in there, but that didn't work
[02:50] <mbtamuli12_> reisio: Well, I am writing a script to install this and if I can install from this and not from the repo, it can be made to work on multiple linux distros
[02:51] <reisio> mbtamuli12_: dunno who would use it
[02:51] <thetrav> ok, so it looks like I could do it, but it won't auto download the key
[02:52] <juan_> ok is downloading it will take like one and a have hour
[02:53] <mbtamuli12_> reisio: well, not everyone. But if you could even point to any document I would read it.
[02:53] <cfhowlett> juan_, time enough for a jog!  a
[02:53] <mbtamuli12_> That would help me install this package
[02:55] <juan_> not at this time will live the computer on have to work tomorrow thanks for the help here is 11 pm
[02:57] <reisio> mbtamuli12_: it's in the repos..
[02:57] <cfhowlett> happy2help! juan_
[02:57] <Jordan_U> mbtamuli12_: It's bad form to have an installation script that ignores the distro's packages.
[02:57] <chris_> good evening
[02:57] <juan_> will let you know tomorrow
[02:58] <chris_> I have been battling with an issue a few weeks now which involves ubuntu 12.05 and 14.04
[02:58] <chris_> I have installed apache on both systems and I am unable to get the apache page up on some networks
[02:59] <Jordan_U> mbtamuli12_: And in an ideal world you would create a package for your software rather than just an install script, and if it's popular enough tgen distros will do the packaging for you.
[03:01] <mbtamuli12_> Jordan_U: It's not my software.
[03:01] <mbtamuli12_> Jordan_U, reisio: Thanks.
[03:04] <thiago_> hi
[03:08] <trumee> I am running ubuntu on a server, and using rdesktop/remmina to access the GUI. Unfortunatley, bash-completions doesnt work for me in the GUI. However, if i ssh into the bash it works.
[03:08] <trumee> Is there any reason why bash completion doesnt work in rdp/vnc?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> trumee: Does the tab key work at all? What happens when you try to tab complete via vnc?
[03:11] <trumee> Jordan_U, looks like solution is this http://askubuntu.com/questions/352121/bash-auto-completion-with-xubuntu-and-xrdp-from-windows
[03:16] <trumee> Jordan_U, this solution worked, http://codebangers.com/autocomplete-not-working-using-xrdp-xfceubuntulinux/
[03:17] <trumee> Another issue i have is that Copy/Paste text from host to the rdp session doesnt work
[03:25] <vahe> hi,as from ubuntu unity to make ubuntu server (to desktop stop ,remove X)
[03:27] <reisio> vahe: removing 'ubuntu-desktop' would go a long way
[03:29] <vahe> reisio: thanks,and how do you do?
[03:30] <vahe> what to do?
[03:33] <ezio> i have the following fstab entry: ramfs   /var/www/te/cache       ramfs,auto      size=200M       0 0
[03:33] <ezio> but it doesn't load on startup
[03:39] <glitchd> hello all
[03:39] <glitchd> as usual, having a weird problem
[03:40] <glitchd> i had messed up burg, and had to reinstall grub. that went fine.
[03:40] <glitchd> however when i finally got back to my desktop, pulseaudio was not running, nor can i get it to run which results in no sound..
[03:42] <jland252007> does anyone know how to get empathy to work with fb on 16.04?
[03:43] <lordcirth> jland252007, Facebook disabled XMPP
[03:44] <jland252007> thats what i been thinking
[03:44] <jland252007> thnx lordcirth
[03:45] <elandroidperdido> adsf
[03:46] <sarek> rtorrent doesnt have an irc channel so im not sure where to ask this question since their forum registration seems to be a bit buggy. I followed this guide and changed my UID and all seems well and running fine other than rtorrent, which gives me an error or tracker couldnt resolve hostname and i cant seem to download anything
[03:46] <sarek> http://askubuntu.com/a/106935/135261 - anyone familiar with rtorrent?
[03:48] <glitchd> sarek, use deluge.
[03:48] <elandroidperdido> hi
[03:48] <sarek> haha fantastic
[03:48] <elandroidperdido> need help with my mobile phone family
[03:48] <glitchd> sarek, lol
[03:48] <sarek> great glitchd that answers my question perfectly
[03:48] <glitchd> sarek, lol thought u would get a kick out of that
[03:48] <elandroidperdido> i am trying to install a rom trought ubuntu in my galaxy core 2 but i can't enable usb for my mobile device and the data is wiped
[03:48] <sarek> yep
[03:49] <jland252007> @sarek havent messed with torrents in a long time nut i remember having same problem on ubuntu 9 so i just installed wine and used u torrent
[04:04] <wasq> Hi. I am unable to automatically execute a script at startup for some reason. The script works fine and I've added it to 'application autostart' in 'session and startup' but it doesn't execute at startup for some reason. Can someone help?
[04:04] <sarek> fixed
[04:12] <Geom> its not in the path probably
[04:14] <brian> sup yall
[04:14] <wasq> Geom, hmmm i don't follow
[04:14] <Apteryx> What could this mean: "Error: can't open /lib/modules/4.4.0-31-generic/updates/dkms" ?
[04:14] <Apteryx> It appears in my boot logs.
[04:15] <Apteryx> Could it has anything to do with amdgpu not working?
[04:15] <Apteryx> *Could it have*
[04:19] <Geom> wasq:  thats the only thing i can think of. startup doesnt find where your script is
[04:19] <TheFly> Evening or morning, ya'll.  Question... In Gparted, my "C:" drive for windows and only windows looks like this.  Is this normal?  >>>  http://imgur.com/0FrE1Ud
[04:24] <jess_> Hey guys, I feel like a got a simple question but haven't been able to figure this out from the googling I've done. I want to give user x read/write permission to user y's home directory and subdirectories. There's a simple way to accomplish this, right?
[04:25] <jess_> Oh, and I have shell access only (no GUI)
[04:26] <ezio> how can i execute an arbitrary script on rc3 without having to create a service?
[04:27] <r00t_> is anyone on i need help\
[04:27] <r00t_> im desprate
[04:27] <squinty> !ask
[04:28] <r00t_> my system keeps freezing and i dont know what to do about it
[04:28] <cfhowlett> r00t_, df -h | pastebinit
[04:29] <r00t_> okay ill do it now
[04:30] <r00t_> http://pastebin.com/19AyziZE
[04:30] <jswagner> TheFly: looks normal to me
[04:30] <cfhowlett> r00t_, any error messages on boot??
[04:31] <r00t_> none......i open kodi and start watching  a movie and it freezes.....when that happens a;ll i can do is force reboot
[04:32] <cfhowlett> r00t_, what ubuntu version?
[04:32] <jswagner> r00t_: anything interesting in your kodi log?
[04:32] <r00t_> im running 14.04
[04:32] <r00t_> and nothing in log
[04:32] <r00t_> the entire system freezes and nothing works
[04:32] <cfhowlett> r00t_, HD movies?  or low resolution?
[04:33] <r00t_> it happens no matter the quality. and its happened during normal use as well, but kodi always makes it freeze
[04:33] <jswagner> general instability makes me think hardware issues
[04:33] <r00t_> i had the freezing issue on 16.04 so i downgraded and still having same issue
[04:34] <cfhowlett> r00t_, so kodi only?  other players are OK?
[04:34] <jswagner> especially when you say "always when i stress the system, but occasionally other times too"
[04:34] <wasq> Hi. I am unable to automatically execute a script at startup for some reason. The script works fine and I've added it to 'application autostart' in 'session and startup' but it doesn't execute at startup for some reason. Can someone help?
[04:35] <r00t_> it freezes often.......i have only tried kodi to be honest
[04:35] <cfhowlett> r00t_, well there's your next test then.  try vlc player
[04:35] <jswagner> cfhowlett: r00t_> it happens no matter the quality. and its happened during normal use as well, but kodi always makes it freeze
[04:35] <glitchd> hello all
[04:35] <glitchd> needing a little help
[04:36] <cfhowlett> !ask | glitchd
[04:36] <glitchd> ubuntu 16.04 xubuntu desktop
[04:36] <jswagner> cfhowlett: i think it's safe to rule out player software as the problem
[04:36] <r00t_> damn.......it froze with that to but this time it unfroze after a few seconds.....but no error messages
[04:37] <glitchd> i had burg installed on top of grub because it looked better. it developed a problem where it would not show the chosen theme so i opted to reinstall it
[04:37] <glitchd> after that i could not get back into my ubuntu installation
[04:37] <r00t_> theres got to be something i can do
[04:37] <glitchd> finally i was able to get back in after burning a live cd to 16.04.1 and reinstalling grub
[04:38] <glitchd> now here is where the weird problem is, pulseaudio stopped working completely
[04:38] <cfhowlett> r00t_, start your player from command line and see if you get error messages:  vlc mediafile.mp4
[04:38] <glitchd> i have reinstalled it several times already
[04:38] <glitchd> but still cannot get it to work
[04:38] <cfhowlett> glitchd, stop reinstalling
[04:39] <glitchd> im really trying to save this install because i dont have a seperate home partition nor do i have the external media to backup all of the info i have on the install
[04:39] <glitchd> cfhowlett, 1 step ahead of ya
[04:39] <glitchd> cfhowlett, im here arent I?
[04:39] <jswagner> r00t_: i think you might need to consider that it's a hardware issue -- check system temperatures and disk health.  if this is a desktop with a dedicated GPU, ensure it's not jammed up with dust and dirt
[04:39] <r00t_> VLC media player 2.1.6 Rincewind (revision 2.1.6-0-gea01d28) [0x826b910] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0" Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0" Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0" Fontconfig warning: FcPattern object size does not accept value "0" 
[04:40] <glitchd> is there any way to reinstall without losing data if im on 16.04.1?
[04:40] <r00t_> i did a disk check already when i was having the same problem on 16.04. nothing came up
[04:41] <r00t_> glitchd if you have your /home on a seperate partition you will still have your files and settings
[04:42] <r00t_> jswagner thanks for your replies.....is there a command i can run that will tell me if its hardware related?
[04:42] <glitchd> r00t_, seriously, i just said that i dont have home on a seperate partition..
[04:42] <cfhowlett> glitchd, do a "something else" installation, do NOT format your home or change the partition in any way.  set the current /home as /home and you *should* be ok
[04:42] <mi11k1> does anybody know how to put a ubuntu you on Android M6 media boxes?
[04:43] <mi11k1> I know how to flash them, but I don't know what image I can use
[04:43] <r00t_> is there a way to flush out the cause of my freezes?
[04:43] <mi11k1> logs
[04:43] <cfhowlett> r00t_, should be logged.
[04:43] <r00t_> okay, but i dont know what command to issue for that
[04:44] <mi11k1> on boot or shutdown, or both?
[04:44] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i did do that, unchecked format, however when it was about to start it said that everything i folders like /var /other folder was going to be deleted, and im not sure if im gonig to lose data because of that or not. it didnt say it was going to format home. but im just being cautious
[04:44] <r00t_> sorry ive been off linux a while im a bit rusty
[04:44] <cfhowlett> glitchd, /var is a system folder not in the /home chain.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> r00t_, no apology needed.
[04:44] <mi11k1> use cat filename
[04:44] <glitchd> cfhowlett, right, but i just wanted to make sure before i shoot myself in the foot.
[04:45] <jswagner> glitchd: just to be clear: you only have one partition and /home exists within it, correct?
[04:45] <mi11k1> or maybe if you type dmesg it will show
[04:45] <r00t_> thanks man.....so what command do i need to enter? i have terminal open
[04:45] <glitchd> well i have several partitions, ubuntu is on its own partition tho
[04:45] <glitchd> cfhowlett, ^^
[04:46] <mi11k1> so nobody knows how to put Ubuntu on one of these ARM  boxes?
[04:46] <jswagner> glitchd: one ubuntu partition, and /home exists within it?
[04:46] <jswagner> mi11k1: probably not, there might be a dedicated channel for the hardware you're interested in
[04:46] <glitchd> jswagner, yes
[04:46] <cfhowlett> mi11k1, pretty esoteric scenario.  ask again at reasonable intervals or see the dedicated channel for your hardware
[04:47] <glitchd> jswagner, ubuntu and swap are both on an extended partition
[04:47] <r00t_> guys i read a post online that points to a possible issue with my graphics card or driver......how do i found out if thats the case?
[04:48] <mi11k1> dmesg
[04:49] <mi11k1> is it nvidia?
[04:49] <glitchd> jswagner, did u have somethign to add?
[04:49] <r00t_> http://pastebin.com/7KUYJ8BA
[04:50] <mi11k1> root do lspci
[04:51] <glitchd> cfhowlett, mmk well i think im gonna give it another try and hope for the best, thx for the info
[04:51] <cfhowlett> glitchd, best of luck to you
[04:51] <glitchd> cfhowlett, thx bud
[04:52] <r00t_> graphics is intel baytrail x86/mmx/sse2
[04:52] <r00t_> http://pastebin.com/7KUYJ8BA
[04:52] <mi11k1> what drivers did you install
[04:52] <mi11k1> do you have non-free enabled?
[04:53] <r00t_> i didnt install any...........and i believe so but im not entirely sure
[04:53] <r00t_> i went into the sources and enabled some
[04:53] <r00t_> but it should be noted that nvidia did get installed on here
[04:53] <r00t_> nvidia xserver
[04:54] <r00t_> but i didnt install that
[04:54] <mi11k1> install nvidia-detect
[04:54] <mi11k1> I think it will tell you what other packages you need
[04:54] <mi11k1> nevermind it's in intel
[04:54] <r00t_> it says unable to locate package
[04:55] <mi11k1> nvidia's another company has nothing to do with your card
[04:55] <r00t_> okay what do i need to do? btw i looked on software update app and it says no additional drivers needed
[04:57] <mi11k1> doesn',t ubuntu have some third-party driver tool
[04:58] <mi11k1> like a GUI that installs the proprietary drivers over River
[04:58] <mi11k1> in the menu It's called driver manager
[04:59] <r00t__> its r00t
[04:59] <r00t__> system froze again
[04:59] <r00t__> had to do hard reboot
[04:59] <mi11k1> type sudo driver-manager
[04:59] <r00t__> :(
[04:59] <r00t__> k
[04:59] <mi11k1> nexrb
[05:00] <r00t__> says command not found
[05:00] <mi11k1> install it
[05:01] <r00t__> unable to locate package
[05:01] <mi11k1> kubuntu-driver-manager
[05:01] <mi11k1> put --no-install-recommends if tiu want
[05:01] <r00t__> installing now
[05:02] <r00t__> didnt see that in time
[05:02] <mi11k1> is it bringing a 1000 of its frinds tinthe party
[05:02] <r00t__> keeps saying unknown media type
[05:03] <mi11k1> where does it say that?
[05:04] <r00t__> said that during install
[05:04] <mi11k1> it installed right?
[05:04] <r00t__> dont think it did cause i issued the command to launch it and nothing
[05:05] <mi11k1> did you type sudo driver-manager ?
[05:05] <mi11k1> you have x running right ?
[05:05] <r00t__> yes says command not found
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[05:06] <mi11k1> start typing driver and push tab
[05:06] <mi11k1> tgere you go, sorry i dont use ubuntu
[05:07] <dragon5611> Hi
[05:07] <r00t__> still nothing
[05:07] <r00t__> im sorry :(
[05:07] <r00t__> not trying to be a pain
[05:07] <r00t__> i just really want this issue fixed
[05:08] <YankDownUnder> In a terminal, type: sudo ubuntu-drivers list => that shows the drivers required for the system. If  you want to install them, type: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall => follow the prompts, probably have to reboot the system after that.
[05:08] <dragon5611> Does anyone know much on gnu grub version 2.02
[05:09] <cfhowlett> !grub | dragon5611 in the future, strenuously avoid "does anyone ..." question forms.  YOUR issues with YOUR specifications please.
[05:09] <r00t__> i typed that and nothing came up
[05:09] <mi11k1> yeah are you in terminal?
[05:09] <r00t__> yes
[05:10] <r00t__> do i need to gain root access to do it? using sudo -s -H?
[05:10] <mi11k1> insteae of sudo gksu?
[05:11] <YankDownUnder> Just simply type: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[05:11] <r00t__> i did that and nothing showed up
[05:11] <r00t__> just a blank line
[05:11] <mi11k1> just wait
[05:11] <dragon5611> I want to merge 2 folders in my file system through grub2.  I moved my boot files into a folder in the same area as boot called temp boot.
[05:11] <mi11k1> maybe the windows taking a second to load
[05:11] <r00t__> i did wait.....nothing populated at all
[05:12] <r00t__> and i did it several times
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: The program will take a minute or so....
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> Type it once, and just wait.
[05:12] <mi11k1> open another terminal and type top
[05:12] <mi11k1> and you'll be able to see the processes
[05:13] <r00t__> yeah its not in running processes
[05:13] <mi11k1> whats at the top?
[05:13] <r00t__> firefox
[05:13] <mi11k1> is there is it just at idle pretty much?
[05:14] <dragon5611> Also I have the option of using a iso with the new version of Ubuntu 16 64 bit on my desktop. Just need help in order to boot to desktop through grub
[05:14] <r00t__> i dont really understand the question
[05:14] <r00t__> usage keeps changing
[05:15] <r00t__> a couple times xorg came to top then firefox again
[05:15] <mi11k1> if it hasn't loaded yet it probably won't try it with the - - help flag
[05:15] <mi11k1> sorry --
[05:16] <mi11k1> or try gksu instead of sudo, did you even get. a chance to put your password in?
[05:16] <r00t__> that time it gave some commands i could do
[05:16] <r00t__> no
[05:17] <mi11k1> anythimg look useful?
[05:17] <WhoAmi00> hello ,
[05:17] <WhoAmi00> How to redirect requests for a resource that are not on the server ? ,
[05:17] <WhoAmi00> i have a website hosted on ubuntu 14.04 - apache 2.4 i want my website to accept only requests for files on the server and the others redirect them to another website , can that done ?!
[05:17] <ser_> este cineva din romania?
[05:18] <mi11k1> dns, i dunno
[05:18] <mi11k1> iptables
[05:18] <WhoAmi00> hello ,
[05:18] <WhoAmi00> How to redirect requests for a resource that are not on the server ? ,
[05:18] <WhoAmi00> i have a website hosted on ubuntu 14.04 - apache 2.4 i want my website to accept only requests for files on the server and the others redirect them to another website , can that done ?!
[05:18] <r00t__> asked for password
[05:19] <r00t__> kept telling me its wrong
[05:19] <mi11k1> it's kind of a vague question still you don't mention how you want to separate
[05:19] <mi11k1> you put in your user password not the root password
[05:20] <r00t__> no drivers found
[05:20] <orangespark> guys
[05:20] <mi11k1> do gksu driver-manager
[05:20] <mi11k1> i know buddy
[05:20] <mi11k1> wgat
[05:20] <orangespark> i have  a trouble with create a dual boot with windows and ubuntu
[05:20] <orangespark> *creating
[05:21] <mi11k1> yah
[05:21] <mi11k1> windows 8 and newer hijack tge system, just google it
[05:21] <r00t__> typed it
[05:21] <r00t__> it asked for pass
[05:21] <r00t__> i put it and nothing happened
[05:21] <mi11k1> just wait now
[05:21] <mi11k1> check top
[05:22] <dragon5611> I'm looking for how to merge a folder to my boot folder in grub. Only way I can boot my computer past grub.
[05:22] <r00t__> its not on top at all
[05:22] <r00t__> no process for it
[05:22] <mi11k1> you got me fooled man, i have no idea
[05:23] <dragon5611> Since my boot folder is empty and contents are in a folder called boot temp
[05:23] <r00t__> i was afraid you were going to say that :(   thanks for trying though
[05:23] <mi11k1> its too hard for me to understand wgats going on
[05:24] <r00t__> heres whats going on in a nutshell....................my entire system keeps freezing. completely locking up. only way to fix is hard reboot
[05:24] <mi11k1> when you boot, edit the grub and after the nosplash add nomodeset
[05:24] <r00t__> me?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !who
[05:24] <orangespark> while installing ubuntu i am seeing only one sda partition
[05:24] <orangespark> 500gb
[05:25] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Since doing this install, have you allowed the systemp to update?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> orangespark, booting ubuntu from the USB?
[05:25] <orangespark> yes
[05:25] <orangespark> windows is intalled in c
[05:25] <orangespark> and i have 4-5 partitions i guess
[05:25] <orangespark> one with dos
[05:25] <r00t__> !YankDownunder if i am supposed to do that manually somehow then no
[05:25] <orangespark> which are 700 mb
[05:25] <orangespark> in siz
[05:25] <cfhowlett> orangespark, this will be related to uefi IIRC
[05:26] <orangespark> one is recovery key drice
[05:26] <orangespark> drive
[05:26] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Ok...so, you've basically JUST installed Ubuntu, yes?
[05:26] <orangespark> so
[05:26] <orangespark> i have to join someother
[05:26] <mi11k1> ohh man, its nkt the channel size that seems to be the issue
[05:26] <orangespark> channel
[05:26] <r00t__> !YankDownUnder correct
[05:26] <r00t__> !YankDownUnder just did install this morning
[05:26] <orangespark> anybody has a solution
[05:27] <cfhowlett> orangespark, sudo fdisk -l tells you what?  and be patient please
[05:27] <mi11k1> how did how did these people even find Linux if they've never even done a Google search before
[05:27] <orangespark> it gives me all the drives
[05:27] <dragon5611> Only see quiet  Splash
[05:27] <orangespark> about 6 partitions
[05:27] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Right oh...so, what would be a really good idea is to get the machine booted...and once you've gotten the machine booted and you're at the desktop, to open a terminal, and run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ==> and after that's finished, and you'll most likely have to reboot, THEN see if the stability of the system has changed, hmm?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> orangespark, so what tool is NOT showing you what you want to see?
[05:27] <orangespark> when insatlling ubuntu
[05:28] <orangespark> it shows no operating system found
[05:28] <mi11k1> magic, voila!
[05:28] <dragon5611> Lol looked through over 22 pages of info. Also read the grub manuel
[05:28] <orangespark> and when i select something else
[05:28] <orangespark> i should be getting a partition table right
[05:28] <mi11k1> dragon get rescutux
[05:28] <orangespark> in my case only one single 500gb partition is showinf up
[05:28] <r00t__> i did run a similiar command but with the wrong handle
[05:29] <r00t__> please forgive me
[05:29] <EriC^^> orangespark: click on try ubuntu
[05:29] <r00t__> !YankDownUnder did command without the && im sorry
[05:29] <orangespark> i have done that
[05:29] <mi11k1> in
[05:29] <EriC^^> orangespark: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:30] <orangespark> okay wait
[05:30] <orangespark> its stuck
[05:30] <r00t__> !YankDownUnder it didnt ask me to reboot
[05:30] <dragon5611> If I could get to tty I would be fine. Just stuck in grub due to my boot folder being empty and all contents are in a folder called temp boot
[05:30] <cfhowlett> http://superuser.com/questions/744916/ubuntu-14-04-installer-doesnt-show-existing-partitions orangespark
[05:30] <orangespark> i need to restart
[05:30] <r00t__> !YankDownUnder it did install a package but it was just a language pack
[05:30] <mi11k1> dragon its a frifgi
[05:30] <EriC^^> orangespark: the whole session is stuck or just the terminal?
[05:30] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: It's relatively important to type things exactly as you're directed...however, let's try this again....in the terminal, type: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:30] <mi11k1> bootable iso
[05:31] <pvdd> hey
[05:31] <dragon5611> I have a iso on my desktop also if that helps.
[05:31] <orangespark> just the ubuntu
[05:31] <cfhowlett> http://superuser.com/questions/744916/ubuntu-14-04-installer-doesnt-show-existing-partitions
[05:31] <mi11k1> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/
[05:31] <cfhowlett> orangespark, ^^^
[05:32] <r00t__> !YankDownUnder i did and everything has already been updated......i did it after install, just a different method. i sense you are growing frustrated with me and im sorry. i just want to make sure i do what i need to do
[05:32] <pvdd> i'm gonna dd my whole ssd (cause of boot nd windows b*shit causing low start), but i'm worried about my uefi vars
[05:32] <EriC^^> orangespark: does another terminal work?
[05:32] <pvdd> will dd erase them?
[05:32] <mi11k1> haha
[05:32] <mi11k1> good chance
[05:32] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: No, I'm just moving slowly, bro...patience and step-by-step
[05:32] <cfhowlett> r00t__, stop putting ! before names - that is a bot trigger
[05:32] <orangespark> totally stuck
[05:33] <orangespark> please give me sometime
[05:33] <pvdd> pls help
[05:33] <orangespark> need to restart it
[05:33] <EriC^^> orangespark: ok
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: So you've done the "updates" - or so you believe, yes?
[05:33] <gvandeweyer> hi, I'm trying to install linux kernel 4.7.0 on an ubuntu 14 LTS server. So far all attemts result into booting into busybox, with the message that the hard drive (/dev/dis/by-uuid/....) cannot be found. the xenial kernel (4.4) boots fine. Any idea what I'd be missing?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !patience | pvdd, !
[05:33] <r00t__> YankDownUnder yes
[05:33] <mi11k1> newchannels making my eyes bleed
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Right oh...so, in a terminal, can you type: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[05:33] <mi11k1> exit
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: And just wait a tick...it takes a moment to "search"....so be patient...
[05:34] <dragon5611> Mi11k1 I will try that. However,  I have no disk or usb drive to create a bootable os with or rescue grub.
[05:34] <r00t__> YankDownUnder just ran and waited. no drivers came up
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: So it returned to the prompt?
[05:35] <r00t__> YankDownUnder yes
[05:35] <iulian> r00t__,  can you post output from lsb_release -a
[05:35] <dragon5611> That is why I am asking how I could just merge my boot with the file named temp boot
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Coolbeans. So now what can you tell us about your system - what type of graphics card do you have?
[05:35] <r00t__> r00th4ck3r@r00th4ck3r-HP-15-Notebook-PC:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Release:	14.04 Codename:	trusty
[05:36] <r00t__> YankDownUnder intel® Bay Trail x86/MMX/SSE2
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !kernel | gvandeweyer also consider asking the #ubuntu-server channel
[05:36] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Ah...so you're on 14.04...you've not moved up to 16.04...and so, WHEN did your system start locking up? Was it directly after you installed Ubuntu?
[05:37] <dragon5611> Back
[05:37] <r00t__> YankDownUnder no....it was after i started using it. i was on 16.04 but i downgraded because i was having the exact same problem
[05:37] <gvandeweyer> cfhowlett: It was a mainline deb that I installed. I'd like to try it to check if a bug is resoved (mentioned that it should in 4.7).
[05:37] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: "Downgraded" - what - you wiped the system and started over from scratch?
[05:38] <r00t__> YankDownUnder yes. i downloaded the iso for my current version and did a fresh install
[05:38] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Right oh...and can you tell me how much RAM you have in this system?
[05:39] <r00t__> YankDownUnder 4GB. 3.8 usable
[05:39] <r00t__> YankDownUnder it was the gnome version i tried with 16.04 and thats the version i was also having this issue on
[05:39] <orangespark> guys
[05:40] <orangespark> i have a windows live usb
[05:40] <orangespark> now
[05:40] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Yes - because the Intel graphics card is sharing the RAM...hence 3.8gb instead of 4gb...so what can you tell me about when it "locks up"? What are you doing when it does that?
[05:40] <cfhowlett> orangespark, windows?  this is ubuntu support ...
[05:40] <orangespark> when i used bootrec /scanos
[05:40] <r00t__> YankDownUnder last time i was on here......the past few times before that i was watching a movie and it froze
[05:40] <orangespark> i want to install ubuntu
[05:41] <iulian> r00t__, this is hapend only with Kodi ?
[05:41] <orangespark> now in the windows when i tried bootrec it shows no windows installations
[05:41] <r00t__> YankDownUnder i tried to access the console and nothing
[05:41] <cfhowlett> orangespark, bootrec is a windows tool and is not supported here
[05:41] <r00t__> iulian no, but most of the times it happened i happen to have been using that
[05:42] <dragon5611> In on #grub asking also
[05:42] <cfhowlett> orangespark, suggestion: go to windows and sort your windows issues first.  it will make ubuntu installation much easier
[05:42] <r00t__> YankDownUnder when it locks up the mouse and keyboard fail to work
[05:42] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: IRC isn't very "intensive" as far as applications go, however, running an app that is processing a video, well, that's a bit intensive...that being said, something you might want to consider is trying a different "Desktop" - you've tried Unity and Gnome - both of which are relatively heavy handed on using the CPU...there is LXDE and XFce - they're much lighter on CPU usage...has anyone mentioned that to you yet?
[05:42] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: Yeah - I've "seen this" before - here, and also here at home...with "low end" client machines...
[05:43] <orangespark> can you u give me the chanel name
[05:43] <cfhowlett> orangespark, ##windows
[05:43] <r00t__> YankDownUnder i was already familiar with those desktop environments but to be honest i didnt think to try them
[05:43] <iulian> r00t__, i google it a bit they have addons called Exodus it's buggy
[05:44] <r00t__> iulian ran it on tons of linux systems. never any issues
[05:45] <YankDownUnder> r00t__: This is something that you might possibly consider - and either of those desktops can be installed right over the top of what you've already got...easy done...
[05:47] <iulian> r00t__, http://bestforkodi.com/kodi-crashing-fix/
[05:47] <r00t2> yankdownunder sorry system froze again
[05:48] <r00t2> YankDownUnder Im installing lxde now and im gonna try it out
[05:48] <YankDownUnder> r00t2: So, if you want to at least TRY to get some stability, you can open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ==> which, when it's done doing what it does, you can simply logout, and then login to a "lighter" desktop - and give that a go...
[05:49] <YankDownUnder> r00t2: LXDE or XFce - doesn't matter - they're lighter on the system, bro...and at least you can start to narrow things down...as well, in all honesty, the machine you've got isn't truly a "work horse" as it were.
[05:50] <r00t2> YankDownUnder brb gonna log into lxde. ill come back here and let you know if it fixes the problem
[05:50] <r00t2> YankDownUnder and thank you for your time and patients
[05:50] <orangespark> i tried ##windows
[05:50] <YankDownUnder> r00t2: Do yer thang.
[05:50] <orangespark> its utterly useless
[05:50] <orangespark> only u guys can help me
[05:50] <orangespark> they are utterly useless
[05:52] <dragon5611> Lol take it as no one here knows grub commands well enough to help.
[05:52] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Patience.
[05:53] <dragon5611> I have it. Just been at it learning for two days straight.
[05:54] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: What exactly is the issue you're having?
[05:54] <pvdd> i'm gonna dd my whole ssd (cause of boot nd windows b*shit causing low start), but i'm worried about my uefi vars
[05:54] <dragon5611> My boot files are in a folder called temp boot in the same file system.
[05:54] <pvdd> will dd erase them?
[05:55] <pvdd> and brick my computer?
[05:55] <dragon5611> Wanting to just merge the contents of temp boot to my boot folder in grub.
[05:55] <r00tAgain> YankDownUnder so far no freeze
[05:56] <orangespark> is there anyway to fix the mbr of windows from ubuntu
[05:56] <orangespark> i have a live cd
[05:56] <r00tAgain> i even opened kodi and played a movie.....only let it play for a couple minutes tho so that doesnt mean im out of the woods but so far so good
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: A bit of a dangerous operation - I'm not going to ask the logic behind that, but I do wonder if you realise how tricky this can be, hmm?
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> r00tAgain: Keep plugging away...
[05:57] <dragon5611> Very actually
[05:57] <r00tAgain> YankDownUnder im gonna stay in this room so i can update you....thank you so much for having the patients to try to help me
[05:57] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Have you thought about using "grub-customizer"?
[05:57] <dragon5611> Since I actually made the mistake of moving them to the file called temp boot. Lol
[05:57] <r00tAgain> to repair master boot record, reformat hard drive to NTFS filesystem using Gparted
[05:58] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Take a look at this, mate... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/install-grub-customizer-ubuntu-16-04-lts/
[05:58] <orangespark> there is windows which i need
[05:58] <orangespark> i cant format that
[05:58] <dragon5611> Lol well I have no disk or sub. I'm stuck in the grub menu. Which means no access to tty1-7
[05:58] <orangespark> and i dont think my mbr exists in c: at all
[05:59] <orangespark> somehow its installed in the one key recovery drive
[05:59] <dragon5611> If I had tty at start instead of grub I could just manually connect and rd download
[05:59] <orangespark> which is 7-00mb in size
[05:59] <r00tAgain> if your master boot record is messed up, your windows install is the least of your worrieds
[05:59] <dragon5611> Or usb
[05:59] <r00tAgain> with a messed up mbr you wont have a functional OS
[05:59] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: So you don't have a USB or anything that you can boot to?
[06:00] <r00tAgain> sorry ill let yank help you
[06:00] <dragon5611> Not currently.  Hence why I have racked my brain going through solely grub command
[06:01] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Fair enough, fair enough...hang on a sec...
[06:02] <dragon5611> All my files to boot are in the folder called temp boot.  Can even use ls (hd0,msdos) \ and see at the very end the file. Appreciate you.
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: How did you move them into "temp boot"?
[06:04] <dragon5611> ls (hd0,msdos1) /
[06:04] <dragon5611> Lol
[06:04] <dragon5611> Well manually
[06:04] <orangespark> i dont know
[06:05] <orangespark> there is a bootmgr file and other boot folders in the onekey recovery drive
[06:05] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: So in doing an "edit" on the grub boot options, have you tried to add the new path to the boot entry/entries?
[06:06] <dragon5611> Before I rebooted I was to move g parted to my boot. Was setting up my partitions at boot.
[06:06] <dragon5611> Tried
[06:06] <dragon5611> Ile tell you the error as well as what is entered
[06:06] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: And you have NO means by which to boot - at all - with an Ubuntu USB or CD/DVD...?
[06:07] <dragon5611> None
[06:07] <dragon5611> Lol it's a harsh situation
[06:07] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: And do you have a means by which to obtain something?
[06:07] <dragon5611> Not currently.
[06:07] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Because you're kinda put yourself between a rock and a hard place, right now, ya know...
[06:08] <dragon5611> Ok in the command line. I have currently as my location.
[06:08] <THeBossIsHere> is swap partition can be common between fedora and ubuntu
[06:09] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: IF it was me, I'd be doing my best to edit the paths for the bootloader/chainloader in grub -> to point to where the stuff is in "temp boot" - but you're going to be stuck - again - because you're going to have to run "grub-update" or "grub-install" - which you're not going to be able to do...unless you can get to a point where you can "chroot" into your old system and have access to the proper binaries...does that make
[06:09] <YankDownUnder> sense?
[06:10] <dragon5611> Linux.       /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-76-generic
[06:10] <dragon5611> In that line and initrd line
[06:11] <dragon5611> I should be able to simply replace/    /boot with temp boot
[06:12] <dragon5611> It does
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Without ME knowing exactly where things are, just make sure the path(s) are absolutely correct, hmm...
[06:12] <orangespark> guys
[06:12] <orangespark> help
[06:12] <dragon5611> Lol so grub is useless on this
[06:12] <orangespark> i want to see the partition table while installing ubuntu
[06:13] <orangespark> its just showing single partition
[06:13] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: ...and I want to see dancing Chinese girls whilst installing Ubuntu...
[06:14] <orangespark> why dont you ask ur mother
[06:15] <orangespark> may be she can put a gif of her good old times
[06:15] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: She's 15k km away...
[06:15] <orangespark> call
[06:15] <orangespark> then
[06:15] <orangespark> :P
[06:15] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: :)
[06:15] <orangespark> mr flinstone
[06:15] <dragon5611> Lol doesn't work with just editing the path to temp boot
[06:15] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Meanwhile, what's going on? You're having an issue with partition(s)?
[06:15] <orangespark> ya
[06:15] <orangespark> i am totally on my nerve now
[06:16] <orangespark> sorry for being rude
[06:16] <dragon5611> Is there a way to get to tty before,grub?
[06:16] <YankDownUnder> dragon5611: Get a liveUSB or CD/DVD...you're going to hose things even worse if you don't...hmm...
[06:16] <fungmen> clear
[06:16] <fungmen> quit
[06:16] <orangespark> i am trying to dual boot with ubuntu and windows
[06:16] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Are the partitions you're not seeing "Windows 10" partitions?
[06:16] <orangespark> windows 8
[06:18] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Same thing, same issue. You're not able to see or do anything with those partitions because of the fact that "Windows" is using a modified "hibernate" on the drives - which therefore locks them from any other OS (except a Windows OS)...so you have to boot into Windows, turn off all hibernation - and probably best to do a manual "chkdsk -f" on the drive as well - just to be on the safe side.
[06:19] <orangespark> chkdsk -f from live usb ubuntu
[06:19] <orangespark> terminal
[06:19] <orangespark> A?
[06:19] <orangespark> *?
[06:20] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Nah, bro - you're going to have to actually boot into Windows - and turn off hibernation (powercfg -h off) - can't really be safely done any other way, mate.
[06:21] <orangespark> after turning of hibernate then what
[06:21] <orangespark> there is a dos partn
[06:21] <orangespark> in which dos came preinstalled
[06:22] <orangespark> with the lap
[06:22] <ruijanpallas> when i select all my files and folders in my home folder, it takes about 7Gs, but when I right click thunar says that the space usage is 13 gigs :s
[06:22] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: When you've done that - and, like I said, run the "chkdsk -f c:" on the system, you can then safely and easily install Ubuntu and you won't have any issues with seeing the "Windows" partitions and whatnot...and grub won't have any issues trying to establish "boot" installation - does that make sense?
[06:22] <ruijanpallas> is it possible that the hidden files double the space usage
[06:22] <YankDownUnder> ruijanpallas: Yes. Open a terminal and type: du -sch
[06:23] <YankDownUnder> ruijanpallas: THAT will tell you the true usage in your "home" directory.
[06:23] <orangespark> ya
[06:23] <orangespark> thanks
[06:23] <orangespark> let me see
[06:23] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Do what you need to do...lemme know how it goes, bro.
[06:24] <r00t_> i think im just gonna go back to windows
[06:24] <r00t_> my system is still freezing
[06:24] <r00t_> and im fed up with it
[06:24] <YankDownUnder> r00t_: Fair enough.
[06:24] <ruijanpallas> the thing is tho, i dont have almost anything major installed so what could be taking so much space
[06:24] <r00t_> YankDownUnder i dont want to but i dont know what else to do
[06:24] <ruijanpallas> some old dosbox games and diablo2
[06:25] <YankDownUnder> r00t_: There are other distros...
[06:25] <r00t_> true
[06:25] <YankDownUnder> ruijanpallas: Those would take up some space...surely...
[06:25] <orangespark> chkdsk -f
[06:25] <orangespark> what should be the parameter to thi
[06:25] <orangespark> this
[06:25] <YankDownUnder> r00t_: If you want something "easy" on a low end system, you can check out "Bodhi Linux" - it's great for low end machines and older stuff, too...very light...
[06:25] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: "chkdsk -f c:"
[06:26] <orangespark> invalid parameter c:L
[06:26] <orangespark> invalid parameter c:
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: chkdsk /f c:
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: My bad...
[06:27] <ruijanpallas> YankDownUnder, thank you for your advices.
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> ruijanpallas: Coolbeans.
[06:27] <orangespark> chkdsk cannot run because the colume is in use by another process
[06:28] <orangespark> its asking to shedule this check next restart
[06:28] <dragon5611> You have to have your boot kern in order to use tty
[06:28] <dragon5611> ?
[06:28] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: It will run on the next reboot - so, reboot the machine into Windows, let it run it's task, when it's done, then you're good to go. I'll assume you've turned off "hibernation", yes?
[06:28] <orangespark> yes
[06:28] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Cool bananas...
[06:29] <orangespark> so what is the desired output of the chkdsk
[06:29] <orangespark> which is a green signal
[06:29] <atralheaven_> can I have a small partition in my ram?
[06:29] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Si. I mean Oui. I mean Da. I mean Ja.
[06:31] <orangespark> done
[06:33] <martix> hello room
[06:33] <martix> what is a good place to start
[06:35] <b4r> hi
[06:35] <orangespark> still not working
[06:36] <orangespark> no partitions
[06:36] <orangespark> anybody who can help me
[06:36] <b4r> I'm getting a "unabled to find valid context" from gdm, solutions online do not seem to help (ie: restorecon -R / and filefix restore)
[06:36] <b4r> any other ideas?
[06:36] <b4r> orangespark: what is the problem?
[06:37] <orangespark> i amtrying to install ubuntu
[06:37] <orangespark> with windows
[06:37] <b4r> a "dual boot" instance?
[06:37] <orangespark> ya
[06:38] <orangespark> but the prob is when installing ubuntu its not detecting any os
[06:38] <b4r> and the problem is something with grub?
[06:38] <orangespark> and no partitions
[06:38] <orangespark> its showing a single disk
[06:38] <orangespark> 500gb
[06:38] <orangespark> its just that i have 6 partitions
[06:39] <orangespark> from whcih only 4 are visible in windows
[06:39] <dragon5611> grub> ls (hd0,1)/ lost+found/ bin/ boot/ cdrom/ dev/ etc/ home/ lib/ media/ mnt/ opt/ proc/ root/ run/ sbin/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ var/ vmlinuz cdrom/ vmlinuz.old initrd.img initrd.img.old temp boot/
[06:39] <orangespark> other one is a dos partition
[06:39] <orangespark> which came with the lap
[06:39] <dragon5611> Temp boot/ is my location
[06:40] <orangespark> i dont understand
[06:40] <orangespark> there is a prob wth mbr i guess
[06:40] <orangespark> and also there is a drive for one key recovery
[06:40] <orangespark> i dont understand
[06:40] <orangespark> there is a prob wth mbr i guess
[06:40] <b4r> orangespark: pastebin the information perhaps?
[06:41] <b4r> orangespark: like mount information or fdisk information or both or some other stuff
[06:41] <orangespark> fdisk with option
[06:41] <orangespark> ehich option
[06:42] <b4r> orangespark: fdisk /dev/<device>
[06:43] <b4r> I'm getting a "unabled to find valid context" from gdm, solutions online do not seem to help (ie: restorecon -R / and filefix restore) ; any other ideas?
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: What's going on now? I just stepped back in...?
[06:44] <orangespark> still same
[06:44] <gebbione> just upgraded to 16 from 14 but my monitors are not detected
[06:44] <orangespark> nothing has changed
[06:44] <b4r> YankDownUnder: shed some light?
[06:44] <gebbione> in displays i try to run a detect but it doesnt see both
[06:44] <gebbione> any suggestions?
[06:44] <b4r> gebbione: xinerama and stuff are installed?
[06:44] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: "Nothing has changed" does not really tell me much...please, elucidate?
[06:45] <gebbione> b4r i have no idea, i just upgraded
[06:45] <gebbione> i only got an error with upgrading mysql
[06:45] <zer0s> quit
[06:45] <b4r> gebbione: xinerama is usually what you want for multiple displays so maybe check for that
[06:45] <orangespark> still single partition is showing up
[06:45] <orangespark> turning off hibernate didnt help
[06:45] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: WHICH partition is showing up?
[06:45] <orangespark> @b4r
[06:45] <b4r> orangespark: be very certain you're modifying the correct partition and/or device
[06:46] <orangespark> i have executed the command u said
[06:46] <orangespark> its asking for command
[06:46] <orangespark> which command
[06:46] <gebbione> b4r libxinerama is installed
[06:46] <b4r> uh `p'?
[06:46] <orangespark> got itr
[06:46] <orangespark> it
[06:46] <orangespark> now
[06:46] <b4r> gebbione: then idk rn what else it could be
[06:47] <b4r> orangespark: good
[06:47] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Firstly, I can only see what you describe to me. I am blind. I cannot read minds, I do not know the past, nor the future. I can only go on exactly what you tell me. Secondly, I do this for a living - exactly what I described to you enables me to do dual-boot systems for clients. That being said, is there something I do not know - something you're possibly not telling me that would shed a huge amount of light on this
[06:47] <YankDownUnder> entire situation?
[06:47] <ruijanpallas> hmm, i may have messed up with playonlinux, hold on and i baste
[06:47] <b4r> ruijanpallas: holdinnng
[06:48] <orangespark> i will pastebin it
[06:48] <b4r> orangespark: great thanks
[06:48] <dragon5611> Well. Lol I know it's possible to boot from the file called temp boot. Which is in the same sub folder with the rest of the system files.
[06:48] <ruijanpallas> http://pastebin.com/M3gaVVtU
[06:49] <orangespark> pastebin.com/0rmw8RLv
[06:50] <orangespark> got it?
[06:50] <b4r> sec
[06:50] <orangespark> i have shed more light i gues yank
[06:50] <orangespark> :D
[06:51] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: So the /dev/sda - your "Windows drive" - you're not installing on that drive, right?
[06:51] <ruijanpallas> or is that just the way playonlinux works that it needs to stackup like that
[06:52] <Nika7> Hi
[06:52] <b4r> ruijanpallas: what's the problem? the directory structure? because it looks fine
[06:52] <b4r> to me
[06:52] <Nika7> Where get tiny WM on shell?
[06:52] <orangespark> i have only sda
[06:52] <orangespark> so
[06:52] <orangespark> i am installing in sda
[06:52] <orangespark> i have unallocated space too
[06:52] <orangespark> for ubuntu
[06:53] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: So you're either going to have to delete a partition or resize a partition - which you would use "Gparted" to do that...
[06:53] <orangespark> i was thinking of creating a new one during ubntu installation
[06:53] <ruijanpallas> b4r, yea I guess I'm reading it wrong then :s
[06:53] <b4r> orangespark: yeah you got like 500 million sectors left yeah?
[06:53] <orangespark> ya
[06:53] <b4r> ruijanpallas: maybe idk too much at all of PoL
[06:53] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: You can't create a new one if there's already a zillion partitions - so you have to verify which of the partitions you have that you can either delete or resize...
[06:54] <orangespark> how much is the limiti
[06:54] <orangespark> i am afraid that deleting one partiotion make my windows unaccesable
[06:54] <b4r> there's a limit? (even with extended partitions?)
[06:54] <dragon5611> Lol as long as you have the space
[06:54] <b4r> yeah
[06:54] <b4r> thought so
[06:54] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Look - if you resize /dev/sda6 (150gb) to give you, say, 50gb, that would be more than enough space to have a good Ubuntu installation...hmm?
[06:54] <Nika7> Where get tiny WM on shell?
[06:54] <b4r> Nika7: google
[06:55] <orangespark> ya
[06:55] <b4r> Nika7: i3 / dwm
[06:55] <orangespark> but that would make another partition
[06:55] <orangespark> which u said i cant
[06:55] <orangespark> to make a partitoin i already have 45 gb unallocated
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: If you leave the "table" the way it is, no, you can't do anything at all. However, if you resize a partition, you can (or, well, linux can) have the system create the required partitions to run a valid system.
[06:56] <orangespark> how much
[06:57] <dragon5611> Lol I tried to figure out one night how to rewrite and delete data from  a dvd-rom. Know it's not possible. However,  figure anything is in the realm of possibility.
[06:57] <orangespark> i dont understand i already resized my partitoin
[06:57] <orangespark> and got 45 gb of it
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Like I said - if you can free up (by resizing) 50gb - or even 20gb - that should be more than enough.
[06:57] <orangespark> for doing the same
[06:57] <orangespark> actually
[06:57] <dragon5611> Gparted is easy to use.
[06:57] <orangespark> that 200gb u r seeing is wrong
[06:57] <orangespark> i did shrink it
[06:57] <orangespark> ro get 45gb
[06:58] <orangespark> i dont knw why its not showing up
[06:58] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Then what is the new partition layout? I'm only seeing what you pasted.
[06:58] <orangespark> ya
[06:58] <orangespark> me too
[06:58] <orangespark> i am surprisde
[06:58] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: If you've created space by resizing, then Gparted should be able to create a partition in the unused space....
[06:59] <Nika7> Where get tiny WM on shell?
[06:59] <dragon5611> Only problem I seen was not making two initial partitions of equal size to work with from installation.
[06:59] <orangespark> and in ubuntu live usb
[06:59] <orangespark> its showing the partitoin resized
[06:59] <orangespark> but nothing on the partition table which i pasted
[06:59] <orangespark> why is it so
[06:59] <orangespark> it should be showing 160gb
[06:59] <ruijanpallas> b4r, the problem was that I was confused what is taking so much space, but maybe it's just the Pol works, the folder structure
[07:00] <dragon5611> Then you are stuck with one big partition unless you make a live g parted CD with a iso
[07:00] <orangespark> but its showing 200
[07:00] <ruijanpallas> the way*
[07:00] <orangespark> why
[07:01] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Did you create a new partition in the free space?
[07:02] <orangespark> no
[07:02] <dragon5611> Either way appreciate the help. Lol I know how to make a live cd. Think more or less I made the mistake of moving my boot files to learn how to use grub.
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: 1.) You've got this huge hunk of free space now, right? so 2.) You need to create a partition in that free space so that 3.) The installer will see it and do something with it...easy as.
[07:03] <orangespark> so you are saying that creating a new partition will fix everything
[07:03] <orangespark> i mean its not showing any of the windows partitions
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Create a partition. Click apply. Exit Gparted. Start the installation. Await any errors.
[07:04] <craptalk> i created windows bootable usb on linux, and i got error while trying to boot from my usb later on, why? i am using disk creator, and from terminal command also
[07:04] <craptalk> please help
[07:04] <orangespark> okay
[07:04] <orangespark> i will try that too
[07:04] <rosgani> craptalk: have you try make the usb using Rufus?
[07:04] <EriC^^> orangespark: are you in the ubuntu live usb?
[07:04] <EriC^^> hold on..
[07:05] <orangespark> ya
[07:05] <EriC^^> ok, pastebin sudo parted -l
[07:05] <EriC^^> you fixed the windows install and ubuntu doesn't show windows in the installer?
[07:07] <orangespark> okay
[07:07] <orangespark> pastebin.com/cdZ8rNhp
[07:07] <ruijanpallas> yea now I get it :) no problems after akk
[07:08] <ruijanpallas> all
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Did you create another NTFS partition?
[07:08] <EriC^^> orangespark: where do you plan to put ubuntu?
[07:09] <orangespark> i am going to create one
[07:09] <orangespark> from 45gb as yank said
[07:09] <orangespark> but you said hold on
[07:09] <orangespark> so
[07:09] <orangespark>  i waited
[07:09] <ruijanpallas> b4r, I was just reading it wrong *sigh, thanks for help
[07:09] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Make sure it's not NTFS...
[07:09] <ruijanpallas> back to diablo ->
[07:10] <orangespark> ext4 then
[07:10] <EriC^^> orangespark: your whole partition table is pretty screwed
[07:10] <orangespark> ya i know
[07:10] <YankDownUnder> orangespark: Make space, create a new ext4 partition, click "apply", exit Gparted, start the install
[07:10] <EriC^^> orangespark: there are overlapping partitions
[07:11] <EriC^^> do you have stuff you need on windows?
[07:11] <orangespark> so i have to do something abt it
[07:11] <orangespark> i mean its gonna make trouble ahead
[07:11] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:11] <orangespark> gparted shows error cant have overla[pping partitions
[07:12] <orangespark> what should i do
[07:12] <EriC^^> do you need anything from the windows install?
[07:13] <orangespark> ya
[07:13] <orangespark> u mean a clean isntall
[07:13] <orangespark> install
[07:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:14] <orangespark> so i will have to start with everything from the start then
[07:15] <orangespark> so tell me what should i do
[07:15] <EriC^^> yeah, copy the stuff you have on it and fresh install then copy back
[07:15] <orangespark> back up everything
[07:15] <dorfen> Hi guys, I can't write the letter "r" in my bash terminal all of a sudden? How can i fix or locate the error?
[07:15] <orangespark> and delete all thepartitions
[07:15] <EriC^^> orangespark: yeah, install windows first, then ubuntu
[07:15] <orangespark> is there anyway i can backup my windows to restore point in my external hardisk
[07:16] <EriC^^> orangespark: i dont think so
[07:16] <EriC^^> no idea
[07:16] <orangespark> really
[07:17] <V7> fsociety.dat ... so what was there ... who knows :D ?
[07:17] <EriC^^> no idea really
[07:17] <EriC^^> orangespark: i'd copy the stuff and make a fresh install
[07:18] <orangespark> okay
[07:18] <orangespark> thanks for the help
[07:18] <orangespark> will do the same
[07:22] <EriC^^> orangespark: no problem
[07:23] <squig> hi, is there a apt-get command to install the dependancies for a particular package
[07:23] <squig> I am building QT out of the apt but I need to install all its dependencies
[07:29] <ducasse> squig: apt-get build-dep
[07:31] <squig> great thanks
[07:35] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[07:35] <OnkelTem> After a regular packages update on 14.04 now all my fonts are ugly: in terminal, in PHP storm, in Google Chrome
[07:36] <OnkelTem> What could made this change and how to configure font size?
[07:36] <OnkelTem> My Window mananger is Awesome
[07:37] <V7> OnkelTem: Send screen capture
[07:37] <V7> Show us your loly
[07:39] <OnkelTem> https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/abb5c5e8c04cc129058b75945e90bfa3.png
[07:39] <OnkelTem> V7: not that ugly
[07:39] <OnkelTem> but bigger then it was
[07:41] <pvdd> i'm gonna dd my whole ssd (cause of boot nd windows b*shit causing low start), but i'm worried about my uefi vars
[07:41] <pvdd> will dd erase them?
[07:41] <pvdd> and brick my computer?
[07:42] <ducasse> pvdd: if you're doing this from a live image the efivars won't even be mounted
[07:43] <pvdd> ok ty
[07:44] <fishcooker> i've got many error windows like this http://imgur.com/a/Nqdm5 ... how to kill all windows like these?
[07:44] <KpuCko> hello i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS from USB pen drive to software raid & lvm, the problem is that on the 4 console (the log) im seeing errors like that: main-menu: operation not supported, and my installation fails
[07:46] <ducasse> KpuCko: is that all it says? what are you trying to do at that point?
[07:46] <doggydoodoo> Hi
[07:47] <KpuCko> ducasse im trying to install ubuntu fresh installation from usb drive
[07:47] -doggydoodoo:#ubuntu- I shit my pants.
[07:48] <KpuCko> maybe at this moment im rebuilding my software raid, its that ok?
[07:48] <V7> OnkelTem: I'll show you my one ;D
[07:48] <ducasse> KpuCko: i can't see why that would fail. are there no other messages?
[07:49] <uebera||> fishcooker: Have a look at https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85205/is-there-a-way-to-simulate-a-close-event-on-various-windows-using-the-terminal
[07:50] <KpuCko> everyting else is like normal install, retriving files from iso, installing deb packages
[07:51] <ducasse> KpuCko: so at what point does it fail? package installation is done later than disk setup.
[07:51] <KpuCko> im seeing this errors after i press the install system now
[07:52] <V7> OnkelTem: http://i.imgur.com/nHM5FpN.png
[07:52] <KpuCko> the errors are seen after the disk setup, root & swap partition and starting installing the system
[07:52] <doggydoodoo> Hey
[07:52] <doggydoodoo> I shit my pants, guys
[07:52] <ducasse> KpuCko: then i don't know, sorry. try #ubuntu-server
[07:53] <doggydoodoo> I really did
[07:53] <doggydoodoo> crapped them real good!
[07:53] <KpuCko> on the setup screen im seeing the setup is going very fast, and when i see the console 4 (the log) im seeing this errors
[07:53] <KpuCko> ducasse thanks a lot
[07:54] <doggydoodoo> KpuCko: did u shit urself?
[07:55] <KpuCko> doggydoodoo if you aren't here to help peoples just leave, thanks
[07:55] <doggydoodoo> KpuCko: thats rude
[07:55] <doggydoodoo> u made me shit my pants agaib
[07:56] <dragon5611> Lol trollin
[07:57] <V7> Flannel ... I got your IP :D
[07:57] <V7> >:)
[07:57] <dragon5611> Is there any possible way to get to tty through grub?
[07:59] <V7> dragon5611: ... grub is not an os
[07:59] <fishcooker> noted uebera||, thanks for pointing
[08:00] <uebera||> fishcooker: yw
[08:00] <V7> Ha ... there's not an cp existing acctually :D
[08:01] <dragon5611> I know... lol just figuring out any way to get out of my rock and a hard place.
[08:01] <uebera||> dragon5611: nowadays, once you've installed a system, grub should show a menu item labeled "rescue mode"--that's likely what you're looking for.
[08:02] <V7> dragon5611: o.o
[08:02] <dragon5611> No rescue mode has popped up
[08:02] <V7> Listen to Silversun Pickups :D
[08:02] <dragon5611> Lol nice
[08:03] <dragon5611> But my boot files are in a folder called temp boot
[08:03] <sruli> with samba is it possible to make a user only read and add files, (not write to existing or delete)? my scenario is all PC's are linux but 1 windows VM, that VM is what worries me, if it gets infected with some crypto malware i dont want it to be able to damage the files on the share
[08:03] <dragon5611> In the same directory as all system files
[08:03] <dragon5611> However a live CD is not a option,
[08:06] <craptalk> can rufus be installed in ubuntu?
[08:06] <uebera||> dragon5611: If you have a menu item that doesn't quite work (because a file in question is not found), but vmlinuz and initrd.img files are in place (somewhere), you can edit/tweak that item and also add a "recovery" to the "linux" line.
[08:07] <OnkelTem> V7: envy envy envy
[08:07] <OnkelTem> V7: I want my fonts back
[08:07] <OnkelTem> I don't know wtf has happened
[08:07] <OnkelTem> https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/fe46020e089ec848947eebf82a4d31aa.png
[08:08] <OnkelTem> Look at this, what made all fonts so ugly?
[08:08] <dragon5611> (dragon5611) (dragon5611) grub> ls (hd0,1)/ lost+found/ bin/ boot/ cdrom/ dev/ etc/ home/ lib/ media/ mnt/ opt/ proc/ root/ run/ sbin/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ var/ vmlinuz cdrom/ vmlinuz.old initrd.img initrd.img.old temp boot/
[08:08] <dragon5611> Temp boot has my boot files
[08:09] <valjan> test
[08:09] <Seveas> fail
[08:09] <dragon5611> Yes, yes I did..
[08:10] <dragon5611> Lol never moving my boot files ever,again.
[08:10] <V7> OnkelTem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/351595/change-default-font-in-ubuntu-13-04 ?
[08:10] <ducasse> dragon5611: why is a live image not an option?
[08:10] <dragon5611> No usb or CD on hand
[08:11] <dragon5611> Lol and I have the files in temp boot
[08:13] <uebera||> dragon5611: So just edit the menuitem in question to point to them? Does https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39423/boot-linux-system-from-a-subdirectory-on-a-partition help you?
[08:13] <dragon5611> Just want to know if I could just use temp boot/ as my boot/
[08:13] <dragon5611> Ile check
[08:14] <uebera||> dragon5611: The topic of the above is slightly different, but it shows how to locate a vmlinuz image in a subdirectory ("linux   (loop)/boot/vmlinuz")... which would be "/temp/vmlinuz" in your case, I guess.
[08:17] <dragon5611> Checking. So would I replace boot/ with temp boot/ in vmlinuz
[08:17] <OnkelTem> @s
[08:17] <OnkelTem> oops
[08:17] <Seveas> dragon5611: may need to be temp\ boot/
[08:17] <Seveas> not sure if spaces need escaping there
[08:18] <Seveas> or "quote the entire thing" instead of escaping
[08:19] <dragon5611> I figure I could just edit the script for when I boot to give it temp boot instead of boot
[08:19] <dragon5611> Let me try
[08:19] <dragon5611> The file name is literally temp boot/
[08:20] <dragon5611> But never worked. Lol
[08:21] <fishcooker> looks cool uebera|| $ xdotool search --name "Error" key --delay alt space c Return
[08:25] <uebera||> dragon5611: Did you use \_ or " "? My guess is the problem lies with the whitespace.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> dragon5611, this!  ^^^^
[08:26] <dragon5611> Ok we need to,back it up
[08:27] <dragon5611> Editing commands on grub
[08:27] <dragon5611> Ubuntu
[08:27] <dragon5611> Hitting e
[08:27] <cfhowlett> dragon5611, single
[08:27] <cfhowlett> words make
[08:27] <cfhowlett> no sense.  STOP using the enter key!!
[08:28] <dragon5611> Guiding you as to what I'm doing
[08:28] <cfhowlett> don't
[08:29] <bazhang> dragon5611, dont do that here, the users and the channel bots wont like it a bit
[08:40] <Bassem> when i start ubuntu it stay in the starting screen and dont go to login screen
[08:44] <Bassem> ubuntu 16 freez at starting screen
[08:47] <Bomber4Chats> anyone have any experience with working with HID generic devices? I need to figure out how to get the HID's capabilities, equivalently to https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff539697(v=vs.85).aspx or https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff539715(v=vs.85).aspx
[08:52] <dragon5611> Winus
[08:53] <dragon5611> Gave up on my idea to move files using only grub.
[08:55] <winuses> Lol
[08:55] <orangespark> guys
[08:56] <orangespark> i am going to make a windows and ubuntu dual boot
[08:56] <orangespark> which one should i install first
[08:56] <ikonia> windows
[08:56] <winuses> Win
[08:56] <orangespark> and also
[08:56] <orangespark> which mode should i set while installing it
[08:56] <orangespark> uefi enabled
[08:56] <ikonia> up to you
[08:56] <orangespark> or legacy support
[08:56] <ikonia> ufi or legacy - both will work
[08:57] <orangespark> becoz i think i might have problems with uefi with ubuntu
[08:57] <ikonia> you won't
[08:58] <MrsMAN> Lol no one finds this funny?
[08:58] <ikonia> MrsMAN: I think you're talking in the wrong channel
[08:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ammusement is irrelevant
[08:58] <MrsMAN> But needed. Still here to help.
[08:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ammusement is not required.
[08:59] <MrsMAN> Decided I am just going into,town tomorrow and getting a usb
[09:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> USB is irrelevant.
[09:00] <MrsMAN> Then I will just use the old co computer and make a bootable ubuntu
[09:00] <MrsMAN> Xp
[09:00] <ikonia> MrsMAN: we don't need to know this
[09:01] <dragon5611> Yeah mrsman your spamming
[09:02] <dragon5611> Lol
[09:02] <ikonia> I'm not laughing
[09:02] <ikonia> stop messing around
[09:02] <dragon5611> I am
[09:02] <orangespark> can i also keep my one key recovery functionality
[09:02] <ikonia> orangespark: one key recovery ?
[09:02] <ikonia> how is that provided ?
[09:03] <orangespark> i have a one key recovery with lap
[09:03] <orangespark> and i am entering bios using that
[09:03] <ikonia> right, and how is that provided
[09:03] <EriC^^> orangespark: after messing with partitions it usually stops working (usually)
[09:03] <orangespark> otherwise i am not shown any button to  enter bios in normal startup
[09:04] <EriC^^> orangespark: which laptop is it?
[09:04] <orangespark> will that show up after clean installation eric^^
[09:04] <EriC^^> orangespark: usually no, you have to make a recovery usb/hdd using the windows tools
[09:05] <orangespark> lenovo
[09:06] <EriC^^> you can enter the bios with f12 or f8 i think
[09:06] <EriC^^> maybe f10
[09:06] <v1rtuosoj> Downloaded Google Chrome off of Google's website on Ubuntu 16.04 running Unity. However when I right click on the Chrome icon in Launcher, it doesn't have the options of "New Window," "New Incognito Window"
[09:06] <EriC^^> the button will always work i guess, but you can't use the actual recovery
[09:06] <v1rtuosoj> How can I fix this?
[09:07] <orangespark> i dont want the recovery
[09:07] <orangespark> becoz frequently lately
[09:07] <orangespark> my lap gets stuck at the lenovo screen
[09:07] <orangespark> on startup
[09:08] <orangespark> at that time i try to turn on using one key
[09:08] <orangespark> it starts up
[09:08] <orangespark> its a big help for me
[09:08] <orangespark> either should have an alternative for that
[09:08] <EriC^^> starts up goes to windows and works?
[09:08] <orangespark> ya
[09:08] <orangespark> i mean
[09:08] <orangespark> firrst a menu shows up
[09:08] <orangespark> bios setup
[09:08] <orangespark> bios devices
[09:09] <orangespark> system recovery
[09:09] <orangespark> normal startuo
[09:09] <orangespark> these options are listed then i select normal startup and i get into windows
[09:09] <EriC^^> that's odd
[09:10] <EriC^^> is uefi disabled in the bios?
[09:10] <EriC^^> f12/f10 doesn't give you the bios menu?
[09:14] <BenSolo|Cell> Hello
[09:22] <sveinse> is there a way to disable a service (such as mysql) and have it manually started when I need it, and that does not interfere with apt upgrade? I tried using systemctl disable, which works perfect for disabling, but causes dpkg to fail as it expects to be able to start the service on upgrades...
[09:23] <ikonia> if the service is disabled, packages shouldn't need to start it unless there is a real need (eg: a table upgrade)
[09:24] <sveinse> ikonia: yet it does. perhaps this is a bug in mysql, but it requires to be able to restart and run the service when upgrading
[09:24] <ikonia> sveinse: have you actually looked at the package manifest to see if the start is forces, or just a poorly written condition
[09:25] <orangespark> nope
[09:26] <orangespark> nothing works
[09:32] <orangespark> will that be a prob
[09:32] <orangespark> if i am nto able to use function keys to get into biod
[09:32] <orangespark> bios
[09:33] <orangespark> after clean isntallation
[09:33] <orangespark> installation and dual boot
[09:58] <t3ch> hey,  after upgrade to 16.04 get that error: error while loading shared libraries: libnl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:59] <t3ch> installing libnl-3-dev not help
[10:02] <geirha> Does ''ldconfig -p'' list it?
[10:05] <MrElendig> updatedb && locate libnl.so
[10:05] <OerHeks> t3ch, does this bug prevent networking?
[10:06] <t3ch> when try to run airodump says this
[10:06] <t3ch> will check locate and link another to that location if exists
[10:07] <OerHeks> oh aircrack, i leave you to it.
[10:09] <JBandy> hey everybody please listen to Jason Bandy's EFNet News Episode 3 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib_uIDKF5cU - A weekly newscast covering the happenings on the best network in the world.. the ERIS FREE NETWORK!!!
[10:18] <JBandy> please join #efnetnews on efnet to chat
[10:19] <themagmaforce> hi there, anyone using keepass with google drive sync? i can't find what they mean by keepass UUID on the google console
[10:20] <OerHeks> !spam | JBandy
[10:21] <julius_> Anyone know if vmdk files are repairable?
[10:23] <OerHeks> julius_, here is some option https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2019259
[10:23] <MrElendig> themagmaforce: sidenote: you should us keepassx instead of keepass
[10:24] <MrElendig> julius_: depends on how you broke it
[10:25] <themagmaforce> MrElendig: but keepassx does not seem to have plugins so i can use in chrome and sync with google drive
[10:25] <julius_> Well I'm running CentOS 7 on VM, was going to boot up today and VMware just says that the file isn't a virtual disk.
[10:26] <OerHeks> julius_, on an Ubuntu host?
[10:26] <julius_> Running mint atm.
[10:26] <OerHeks> oh, worse.
[10:27] <MrElendig> themagmaforce: don't need any plugin
[10:27] <MrElendig> just have your google drive mounted somewhere in your fs and point keepassx(2) at it
[10:28] <MrElendig> (keepass has some epic secuirty fails in their update feature currently)
[10:31] <themagmaforce> MrElendig: is there anyway to have only a file from google drive synced?
[10:32] <MrElendig> someone have proably written some daemon to do that
[10:32] <MrElendig> but just using the google drive gvfs thing would work fine too
[10:32] <MrElendig> since it would mount the drive as a virtual fs instead of actually copying everything to your disk
[10:33] <MrElendig> speed will ofcourse be limited by your network connection but that isn't a problem when it comes to keepassx
[10:35] <dany-web-dev> why would my ssh host keys get corrupted? I have a raspberry pi with ubuntu core running from a USB
[10:35] <dany-web-dev> is it cause for concern?
[10:35] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: because sd cards sucks
[10:35] <MrElendig> sd card/usb sticks
[10:35] <MrElendig> that is the most likely cause
[10:35] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: why specifically ssh host keys?
[10:36] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: totally random?
[10:36] <OerHeks> just one bit that falls ..
[10:36] <MrElendig> check your logs for I/O errors or fs corruption
[10:36] <moijk> I've got a 750ti coming soon, I've been away from desktop linux for years so what would be the appropriate ways to install the correct drivers in 2016?
[10:36] <MrElendig> moijk: <yourpackagemanager> install nvidia
[10:37] <MrElendig> moijk: I hope you didn't pay more than 50€ for that card btw
[10:37] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[10:37] <OerHeks> or list first, but autoinstall selects the optimal driver > sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[10:37] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: https://www.google.cz/webhp?q=linux%20io%20corruption%20logs
[10:37] <dany-web-dev> no result
[10:38] <dany-web-dev> I used fsck before,
[10:38] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: what
[10:38] <dany-web-dev> I don't know if it's relevant on USBs though
[10:38] <MrElendig> read *your* logs, don't google
[10:38] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: I'm googling how to do that
[10:38] <dany-web-dev> what logs?
[10:38] <MrElendig> dmesg -H is a good start
[10:39] <MrElendig> journalctl is another
[10:39] <dany-web-dev> oh, there are no errors in that
[10:39] <MrElendig> dmesg only shows for the current boot
[10:39] <dany-web-dev> I know
[10:39] <dany-web-dev> that's why I said
[10:39] <dany-web-dev> I just rebooted it
[10:39] <MrElendig> journalctl can list older ones
[10:40] <MrElendig> the -b flag is useful
[10:40] <MrElendig> or you can filter by string or date
[10:40] <OerHeks> previous boot: journalctl -b -1 from the previous boot
[10:40] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: journactl isn't installed on ubuntu core
[10:40] <OerHeks> or -2 if you want to look further back
[10:40] <dany-web-dev> how do you find a command with apt?
[10:40] <dany-web-dev> I know with dnf you can do something like `dnf list <command>` and it will find the package which provides that command
[10:41] <OerHeks> check dmesg ?
[10:41] <sveinse> dany-web-dev: of what's installed or of everything including what is not installed?
[10:42] <dany-web-dev> sveinse: from the repos (not installed ofc)
[10:42] <sveinse> dany-web-dev: I have to admit I prefer using http://packages.ubuntu.com/ :P
[10:43] <dany-web-dev> sveinse: why would you feel ashamed of that, just blame FOSS for writing shit sw
[10:43] <dany-web-dev> sudo journalctl --verify PASS: /system.journal PASS: /system.journal
[10:43] <sveinse> dany-web-dev: eh, come again? What has that to do about this?
[10:44] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: what does that mean?
[10:44] <cuboid> VLC question: How do you fix audio streaming lag?
[10:44] <dany-web-dev> sveinse: wrong channel sry
[10:45] <moijk> what would be a good bittorrent client? I'm used to utorrent on the mac.
[10:45] <julius_> cuboid: You getting skipping and lagging?
[10:45] <dany-web-dev> OerHeks: `Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found`
[10:46] <julius_> moijk: I use vuze leap.
[10:47] <YankDownUnder> moijk: Transmission.
[10:47] <sveinse> dany-web-dev: as for your question. apt-file find somefile.h lists the packages that somefile.h provides. You probably have to install apt-file and run apt-file update first
[10:47] <dany-web-dev> sveinse: ah, thanks
[10:47] <dany-web-dev> I used apt file before
[10:47] <dany-web-dev> to find header files
[10:47] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: if you are running a up to date version of ubuntu then you do have journalctl
[10:48] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: yea I know now
[10:48] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: I'm running `badblocks` now
[10:49] <dany-web-dev> Hacker: now hackers allowed sry
[10:49] <sveinse> Let me build on that question about apt. I notice a shift from apt-get over to apt (don't quite know when). When would one run apt vs apt-get?
[10:49]  * dany-web-dev sets mode +b Hacker 
[10:49] <OerHeks> !ubuntucore
[10:49] <dany-web-dev> OerHeks: no snappy
[10:49] <julius_> cuboid: You might want to try and change the buffer by going into preferences > input/codecs > Acess modules > File and change the Caching value to maybe 2000 or 1000
[10:49] <Guest4431> hyyyy
[10:49] <multifractal> How can I completely get rid of CUDA and anything related to Nvidia. I've had my fill with this nonsense, and sporadic boot crashes.
[10:50] <dany-web-dev> uname -a Linux rpi.local 4.1.19v7-aufs #1 SMP Sun Mar 13 12:48:13 CET 2016 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[10:50] <OerHeks> multifractal, go into the drivers menu and set nouveau again, then remove nvidia* like the way you installed it.
[10:51] <OerHeks> dany-web-dev, whatever, arm and core is not supported here official.
[10:54] <multifractal> OerHeks the way I installed it was the apt-get approach described here http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#ubuntu-installation
[10:54] <b4r> I'm getting a "unabled to find valid context" from gdm, solutions online do not seem to help (ie: restorecon -R / and filefix restore) ; any other ideas?
[10:54] <zerox_> ubuntu rocks
[10:54] <multifractal> OerHeks: But when I ctrl+f that document for "uninstall" it's all related to the "runfile installation" approach.
[10:55] <OerHeks> multifractal, uh oh, from their site, i hope theu uinstall a uninstall package too
[10:55] <OerHeks> c/theu/they
[10:55] <multifractal> OerHeks what other way is there?
[10:55] <dany-web-dev> OerHeks: uhm, what's that to do with anything?
[10:56] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: badblocks is not that usefull on flash based devices
[10:56] <multifractal> Can I somehow just "purge" everything nvidia related?
[10:56] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: thanks, that's what I was thinking
[10:56] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: due to how the controllers works
[10:56] <dany-web-dev> MrElendig: how about SSDs though?
[10:56] <multifractal> I'd be happy if I never saw anything related to Nvidia on my machine ever again.
[10:56] <MrElendig> also on moderns spinners badblocks are not actually a good metric for drive health anyway
[10:56] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: ssds are flash based
[10:57] <dany-web-dev> but they operate differently
[10:57] <dany-web-dev> flash assigns to 1st available
[10:57] <MrElendig> dany-web-dev: and have even more aggresive wear leveling etc
[10:57] <dany-web-dev> nand assigns with respect to cell health
[10:57] <dany-web-dev> at least that's what I was taught
[10:57] <MrElendig> you will have a lot of errors on a ssd, but the firmware, hopefully, will hide them
[10:58] <MrElendig> sidenote: many smaller sd cards and the like are actually large ones just with a lot of corruption mapped away
[10:58] <dany-web-dev> yeah I know, I remember when SSDs were first introduced, they had 10% more actual space, all just to accommodate 1 year low-usage wear :D
[10:59] <Raxz> is it safe to assume this is stuck if it's been doing it for 30 minutes?
[10:59] <Raxz> http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/16/0808/h_1470653940_7412252_809cb1987a.png
[10:59] <dany-web-dev> Raxz: run top to see if it's using any resources
[11:01] <OerHeks> Raxz, there is a star with exclamation mark on the panel.
[11:02] <Raxz> wineserver is indeed using a decent amount of resources for doing a whole lot of nothing
[11:02] <OerHeks> !wine
[11:03] <Raxz> also I can't make any sense of this debug info
[11:03] <YankDownUnder> Raxz: There is a #playonlinux channel, if you didn't know...
[11:03] <Raxz> I didn't know
[11:04] <YankDownUnder> Raxz: :) Now ya do.
[11:04] <cuboid> julius_: I get lagging. It will pause every 10 seconds then keep playing again.
[11:04] <cuboid> I have the error messages, if that helps anyone
[11:04] <Raxz> ty
[11:04] <YankDownUnder> Raxz: yw
[11:04] <cuboid> Increasing caching improves it, but I have to increase it to like 60000 to get through one 3 minute song. But if I have video enabled (on low quality) it has no issues whatsoever.
[11:05] <dany-web-dev> completely on-topic
[11:06] <multifractal> In case anyone's interested I went to additional drivers, re-enabled the nouveau one. Then I did `sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove cuda`. Now laptop seems to boot without the stupid drama.
[11:06] <dany-web-dev> does canonical do user testing?
[11:06] <themagmaforce> i'm trying to mount google drive using gvfs, but i get "invalid mount spec" using "gvfs-mount google-drive://...@gmail.com" do i need to install gvfs-google? and if yes, where can i find it for ubuntu?
[11:06] <dany-web-dev> like do they have a department where they have random people come and use ubuntu for the 1st time
[11:08] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-beginners used to be that first step
[11:08] <YankDownUnder> themagmaforce: Install and use "grive2" instead.
[11:18] <dany-web-dev> OerHeks: hahaha, no wonder the desktop experience is atrocious
[11:22] <themagmaforce> gdrive seems to be for a full sync, i just want to mount (or sync, but prefer mount) a single folder or specific files
[11:22] <themagmaforce> *grive
[11:42] <moijk> MrElendig: i know the 750ti is old, but it is the best low profile i found.
[11:42] <themagmaforce> there is not repo with gvfs-google ?
[11:43] <MrElendig> moijk: shops seem to love to overprice it
[11:43] <MrElendig> moijk: there is a low profile 1060 btw
[11:43] <MrElendig> zotac iirc
[11:44] <MrElendig> hmm not zotac, they only did the short one
[11:44] <mikatone> hi I have a poweredge 2900 and need to add extra space
[11:45] <mikatone> what do you suggest SAS, SATA ? WD Red Caviar, Seagate Cheeta or SSD ?
[11:46] <OerHeks> NVMe, mikatone, but this is more subject for ##hardware
[11:46] <MrElendig> mikatone: if you need space, spinners
[11:46] <MrElendig> mikatone: 4TiB is usually the best price/space atm
[11:47] <mikatone> Sorry not following you suggesting 4Tb because it's large?
[11:47] <mikatone> This server runs 24/7
[11:47] <moijk> MrElendig, sure they overprice. but it fits my need and i just have to live with overspending a few euro on an old card.
[11:47] <mikatone> raid 1 at least
[11:48] <moijk> MrElendig, there will be a low profile 480 radeon card. but not out yet.
[11:48] <mikatone> brand names models etc?
[11:48] <MrElendig> moijk: you can find 750's for <=50€ when looking around though
[11:48] <MrElendig> mikatone: it is just that some shops believe that they are still worth 200+
[11:49] <mikatone> SAS 750Gb Seagate 15k
[11:49] <MrElendig> specially the low profile versions
[11:49] <MrElendig> mikatone: depends on if you need performance or not etc
[11:49] <moijk> I'm in norway. So 50 becomes 100 quite quickly. (which is what I paid, new w/gurantee).
[11:50] <MrElendig> if you just need space then I would grab a bunch of 4TiB deathstars or wd's and raid10 them
[11:50] <MrElendig> moijk: finn and tek.no bruktmarked
[11:50] <Aussie_matt> hi guys: is the i386 server iso uefi?
[11:50] <mikatone> MrElendig nowadays performance is always a need but not worried about performance that much more about price and data integrity
[11:51] <MrElendig> Aussie_matt: is the hardware 64bit capable?
[11:51] <OerHeks> Aussie_matt, UEFI and 32 bit is a problem.
[11:51] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: yes, it is a 64 bit cpu with 32 efi
[11:51] <MrElendig> Aussie_matt: if it is, do a 64bit install, if you need ram efficiency use x32 for the relevant bits
[11:52] <mikatone> thank you
[11:53] <aiena> DO you think its possible to use the ubuntu font with icewm ?
[11:53] <aiena> I have unity and icewm on the same system. I would like to use unity fonts with icewm
[11:54] <OerHeks> aiena, why not?
[11:54] <aiena> can you tell me how to accomplish that
[11:54] <MrElendig> the wm does not affect what fonts you can use
[11:54] <aiena> I want the general fonts to look like unities because readability is impt
[11:54] <MrElendig> (unless it doesn't support freetype)
[11:54] <OerHeks> if you installed both, they would be available in both
[11:55] <aiena> so how do I make icewm use them
[11:55] <aiena> The enhabce readability
[11:55] <OerHeks> check the icewm manual how to change system fonts?
[11:56] <aiena> I checked but what path do I specify http://iceorg.sourceforge.net/manual/icewm-11.html#ss11.2
[11:56] <aiena> for the fonts
[11:56] <aiena> also which font does unity use by default
[11:56] <aiena> using ubuntu 16.04
[11:57] <mikatone_> back to the best irc channel nobody answer me at ##hardware :(
[11:58] <mikatone_> so guys need final solution
[11:58] <mikatone_> best solution?
[11:59] <OerHeks> mikatone_, then try ##linux ?
[11:59] <OerHeks> or be patient in ##hardware
[12:00] <MrElendig> mikatone_: buy 10 cheap 4TiB spinners, raid10 them with two hot spares
[12:00] <MrElendig> ^_^
[12:00] <mikatone_> can't spend that much and that is way to much space
[12:01] <mikatone_> 200€ is my best shot
[12:01] <mikatone_> 1 Tb space
[12:02] <mikatone_> ok guys thank you going ##linux checking ;)
[12:02] <Aussie_matt> OerHeks: ah, so the i386 iso's aren't efi. thanks
[12:02] <V7> Ah... won first game :D lichess.org/0pjPO3ap
[12:02] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: I'll try with the 64bit iso, see what happens
[12:02] <chaitanya> Hi All
[12:03] <chaitanya> I am new to ubuntu ..
[12:03] <chaitanya> any good guide
[12:03] <chaitanya> ???
[12:03] <chaitanya> Any one here ?
[12:03] <bazhang> !manual | chaitanya
[12:04] <dandels> chaitanya, depends on what you want to do/know. I don't know any actual "Here is an Ubuntu guide":s, though (althoug they exist)
[12:04] <dandels> nvm, bazhang beat me to it
[12:04] <bazhang> !rute | also this chaitanya
[12:05] <MrElendig> Aussie_matt: you need a 32bit efi payload, but that isn't too hard to deal with
[12:05] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: ? sorry I don't understand
[12:05] <raddy> Hello
[12:05] <dandels> hi raddy
[12:05] <V7> chaitanya: First time on Linux or Ubuntu !?
[12:06] <MrElendig> Aussie_matt: if your uefi is 32bit, then you need a 32bit payload, but that is not that hard to get
[12:06] <chaitanya> V7, Both
[12:06] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: what do you mean by payload?
[12:06] <raddy> I have set lxc.cgroup.memory.limit_in_bytes = 4G in container config file, But it is not taking effect even after rebootingg the container.
[12:07] <MrElendig> Aussie_matt: typically a bootloader to load your kernel
[12:07] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: ah, ok gotcha
[12:07] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: the good news it the 64 bit iso is recognised as efi! yay, so I'm at a boot menu
[12:08] <OerHeks> !uefi
[12:08] <MrElendig> Aussie_matt: then it sounds like you have a 64bit uefi and not a 32bit one
[12:08] <MrElendig> so all is good
[12:09] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: no, I believe the 16.04 iso added 32bit efi
[12:10] <raddy> Is there any errors in my parameter ?
[12:10] <whitehat> sup
[12:10] <abhinav> hi
[12:10] <whitehat> this is so cool
[12:10] <abhinav> how would i install xfce without installing xubuntu branding?
[12:11] <Guest52383> fuc
[12:11] <OerHeks> abhinav, use an other distro ?
[12:11] <Guest52383> how do i change my nickname?
[12:11] <k1l_> Guest52383: /nick newnick
[12:12] <OerHeks> ..unless that name is reserved
[12:12] <abhinav> OerHeks: the answer is to install xfce4. not using other distro.
[12:12] <Linix> This is my first time on linux
[12:12] <abhinav> Run still you are sane...
[12:13] <OerHeks> abhinav, good, you answered yourself, but that is not true, there still is ubuntu branding in your system.
[12:13] <abhinav> OerHeks: I never said I dont want 'ubuntu' branding.
[12:13] <zerox_> ubuntu rocks
[12:25] <sruli> with samba is it possible to make a user only read and add files, (not write to existing or delete)? my scenario is all PC's are linux but 1 windows VM, that VM is what worries me, if it gets infected with some crypto malware i dont want it to be able to damage the files on the share
[12:25] <l9> sde: sde1 sde2
[12:26] <l9> how can i earse sde1 and sde2
[12:26] <Seveas> sruli: no.
[12:26] <bekks> l9: Why do you want to do that?
[12:26] <l9> bekks: well i am trying too dd image too /dev/sde
[12:26] <sruli> Seveas: so no way to allow a user to only add files to share?
[12:27] <bekks> l9: And what the purpose of deleting sde1/2 before?
[12:27] <Seveas> sruli: correct.
[12:27] <bekks> *whats
[12:27] <bekks> Seveas: thats not true.
[12:27] <MrElendig> sruli: write a broker service
[12:27] <sruli> Seveas: how to i protect my share from a windows machine :-(
[12:27] <bekks> sruli: you could use ACL on your samba share.
[12:27] <Seveas> sruli: kill the windows machine :)
[12:27] <l9> bekks: cause /dev/sde is only showing 950mb of a 16Gb sd card
[12:27] <MrElendig> sruli: by not giving random people write access in the first place
[12:28] <sruli> Seveas: i would love too its the only one remaining on the network but its needed use a device from a particualr supplier
[12:28] <MrElendig> l9: fdisk -l /dev/sde
[12:28] <MrElendig> l9: put the output on bpaste.net or similar
[12:29] <sruli> MrElendig: i am not giving random people access, i am worried from this 1 win machine if it gets a crypto malware or something
[12:29] <l9> http://pastebin.com/L6ZZYPZ7
[12:29] <MrElendig> sruli: if you do then you have lost anyway, get some offline backup solution instead
[12:29] <MrElendig> l9: please don't use pastebin.com, see /q phrik pastebin.com
[12:29] <OerHeks> sruli, sticky bit on a file should work stop file deletion, but writing in the file would still be possible.
[12:30] <sruli> MrElendig: havnt lost if user can only add files
[12:31] <sruli> as a counter measure i have been making a offline backup of each file as soon as its written the first time... the device is now ~100 files per minutes at peak times, its consuming too much resources
[12:32] <sruli> MrElendig: whats a broker service?
[12:32] <l9> MrElendig: https://bpaste.net/show/32fd73934055
[12:32] <damiancrae> hi
[12:32] <MrElendig> sruli: eg a web service that runs on the server where you have a file upload form
[12:33] <MrElendig> sruli: and a download form
[12:33] <MrElendig> sruli: you could also have some fuse based fs as a frontend on the client side, or similar
[12:33] <MrElendig> sruli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message_broker
[12:33] <sruli> MrElendig: big hammer for small job.. sounds too complicated for me
[12:34] <MrElendig> sruli: there are ready to use solutions
[12:34] <sruli> bekks: are you sure it can be achived with ACL? i read a little about samba ACL but did not see how to do that
[12:34] <MrElendig> you can't do add only with acl
[12:34] <ajksd> hi there
[12:35] <bekks> sruli: It is a common task using ACL, for disallowing users to delete stuff.
[12:35] <sruli> bekks: deleting is not enough.. malware can write to the file..
[12:35] <ajksd> I'm trying to figure out how to set my caps lock key to act as a ctrl modifier for my current user only through the gui. I'm on ubuntu 16.04.
[12:36] <bekks> sruli: Then you need to deny writes at all - aka read-only - and then your share is useless.
[12:36] <l9> MrElendig: do you see why i need too delete sde1 and sde2 ? when i use gparted the card only shows as 950mb
[12:36] <sruli> bekks: useless as you say. thanks to MS i have a vunrabillity on my network which i cannot close
[12:36] <bekks> l9: if you plan to deploy an image to sde, you dont need to delete sde1 or sde2 before.
[12:36] <ajksd> I'd expect to find the functionality in system settings -> keyboard  or text input but I can only set the keyboard layout there
[12:37] <sruli> thanks ya all... i am off to the sunny beaches
[12:37] <l9> bekks: well after the dd command nothing changes on the card and i have problems mounting root on it
[12:37] <bekks> sruli: dont use windows shares then. vulnaribility closed.
[12:37] <bekks> l9: did you unmount all filesystems before?
[12:38] <bekks> l9: and what was your very exact dd command?
[12:38] <l9> bekks: dd bs=1M if=image of=dev
[12:39] <l9> nothing fancy
[12:39] <bekks> l9: thats not the EXACT command you have been using.
[12:39] <MrElendig> that fdisk output is strange, -l sde should have given the full partition lost
[12:39] <MrElendig> list*
[12:39] <sruli> bekks: as i explained there is 1 pc which has to have that crap required by a supplier to connect to their system (they use activeX) there is a scanner connected to it which scanns document, their site (activeX process it) but those docs need to be available to everyone on the network, the scan has to be initiated from the activeX so cant even scan it from linux PC
[12:39] <l9> bekks:  dd if=FreeBSD-armv6-11.0-RPI-B-302284.img of=/dev/sde bs=1024
[12:40] <bekks> l9: And did you unmount sde1 and sde2 before?
[12:40] <l9> have never mounted them
[12:40] <bekks> l9: And how do you see "changes" on the card?
[12:40] <l9> at boot
[12:41] <bekks> l9: besser use a tool that shows you the partitioning layout, etc.
[12:41] <l9> bekks: what tool do you recomend?
[12:41] <bekks> l9: sudo fdisk -l, e.g.
[12:42] <Aussie_matt> MrElendig: just booted the desktop 64bit iso, looks good. It's on this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/331558195971?lpid=107&chn=ps
[12:42] <l9> bekks: https://bpaste.net/show/3b5db1163849 <- like that?
[12:46] <bekks> l9: looks good. And whats the issue with that?
[12:47] <bekks> l9: And using fdisk on a partition is pointless.
[12:48] <l9> i have sde as 953,7 mb when it should be 16Gb
[12:49] <bekks> l9: Then your SD card is broken.
[12:49] <l9> yeah
[12:49] <bekks> l9: Throw it away and get a working one.
[12:53] <Amm0n> l9, I've seen this behavior with broken MBR from USB sticks. Try to write a new one.
[12:55] <nexusguy59> erv identify new2day
[12:57] <l9> Amm0n: already tried too dd /dev/null too it still the same. need too dig into it later but yeah i think i might have screwed the mbr
[12:57] <bekks> l9: the card is broken.
[12:59] <OerHeks> nexusguy59, i think you want to change password
[12:59] <TheFly> Hi ya'll.  I'm running a windows machine but had a virus that made it fail to boot, and also removed the partition to my second (phyiscal, D) drive.  I just want to know if this is what a normal "C" drive with windows should look like http://imgur.com/0FrE1Ud
[13:00]  * l9 looks at the card nope it looks good not a single dent in it
[13:00] <bekks> l9: Cool, so you can see defects inside a flash chip. How do you do that?
[13:02] <l9> sde                     8:64   1  14,9G  0 disk
[13:02] <l9> thats how i see it is not broke
[13:02] <bekks> Where do you see that?
[13:03] <l9> lsblk
[13:03] <bekks> l9: And fdisk tells you the device smaller than 1G.
[13:03] <l9> and dmesg tells me it is ignoring prtions
[13:03] <bekks> l9: remove the card, wait 10s, put it back in, and pastebin dmesg afterwards.
[13:05] <l9> https://bpaste.net/show/994c9aca3492
[13:06] <bekks> l9: you could try erasing the entire card, using dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sde bs=16M
[13:06] <bekks> l9: after that, run: "sync; sync;", remove the card, wait 10s, put it back in, and take a look at dmesg again.
[13:09] <l9> same
[13:09] <bekks> l9: I doubt you ran that command, it takes longer than two minutes.
[13:10] <bekks> l9: and the timestamps from your paste are from your boot, not from after putting the card back in.
[13:11] <bekks> l9: can you pastebin "lsb_release -a" as well, please?
[13:11] <l9> dmesg -wH
[13:11] <bekks> dmesg -wH is not dmesg.
[13:12] <bekks> l9: and dmesg on Ubuntu does not supports -w nor -H. So which system are you on?
[13:12] <bekks> -s
[13:13] <l9> it dosent?
[13:13] <bekks> Which OS are you on, currently?
[13:13] <l9> 16.04 LTS
[13:13] <bekks> So pastebin "lsb_release -a".
[13:14] <k1l_> l9: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" that will output a url, show that url here
[13:14] <l9> https://bpaste.net/show/03fb662d430c
[13:15] <l9> k1l_: http://termbin.com/yiov
[13:16] <bekks> Reboot your box, you have sever kernel errors in dmesg.
[13:17] <l9> time stamp it
[13:18] <bekks> 4320, thats where it starts.
[13:20] <l9> bekks: have seen this before
[13:21] <bekks> l9: which isnt a good sign. And you can see your sde being dead at 18946.
[13:26] <hullo> I need some help. I got icewm fonts to work nicely. But for some reason nautilus fonsts for the folders etc inside icewm are different from the fonts used inside unity
[13:26] <hullo> I have no idea what could cause this
[13:26] <hullo> can someone guide me
[13:26] <l9> bekks: rebooting
[13:27] <xecmas> anon
[13:28] <xecmas0> hi
[13:28] <hullo> o/
[13:28] <xecmas0> what's up
[13:32] <OerHeks> hullo, nautilus got its own settings http://askubuntu.com/questions/19770/how-do-i-change-fonts-and-adjust-their-size   gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop font 'Ubuntu 10'
[13:53] <dy> bebebebebebebebebebebebebebebebebebeb
[13:59] <loganrun> how can I instlal an old version of wine
[14:05] <OerHeks> loganrun, not sure why, but you need to download it manually, dependencies too.. https://launchpad.net/wine/+packages
[14:05] <OerHeks> and goodluck with installing, won't be easy
[14:07] <loganrun> OerHeks, well just trying to get some program to work and it says to use a particular version of wine
[14:08] <OerHeks> really? how sad ...
[14:08] <bekks> loganrun: which program?
[14:09] <OerHeks> a newer version i would believe yes
[14:09] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install packagename=version ~ sudo apt-get install wine=1.4-0ubuntu4
[14:09] <OerHeks> or whatever version number
[14:10] <OerHeks> and then you need to 'hold' that package, else updates go crazy
[14:10] <OerHeks> sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections
[14:10] <OerHeks> from http://www.howtogeek.com/117929/how-to-downgrade-packages-on-ubuntu/
[14:13] <te_lanus> loganrun: Install PlayonLinux, it allows you to use any version of Wine without updrading/downgrading each time
[14:15] <sweatsuit> bluetooth disables when I wake my Lenovo x230 from sleep. does anyone know how to make bluetooth stay active?
[14:15] <k1l_> sweatsuit: reload the module
[14:16] <faroleiro> pt?
[14:17] <k1l_> !pt | faroleiro
[14:25] <sweatsuit> k1l_: do you know the command for that?
[14:26] <k1l_> sweatsuit: "modprobe"
[14:28] <TheFly> Question:  I have 2 drives.  C drive is my SSD (windows).  D drive is my HDD (music, movies).  Should I make the D a PRIMARY or EXTENDED partition?  FYI, I don't plan on running Ubuntu on my C: in the future; I'm going to run it off an external HDD
[14:29] <arjun> hi
[14:30] <OerHeks> TheFly, you only need an extended partition on a drive, when you plan to make more than 4 primairy partitions.
[14:30] <OerHeks> so no, i guess.
[14:31] <napoleao> I have enabled virtual desktops in unity, anyone know how can I hide the icons of the applications that are running in a different virtual desktop?
[14:32] <OerHeks> hit the unity bar, systemsettings > appearance > behaviour - auto hide
[14:32] <TheFly> OerHeks:  So I should make the D drive a Primary partition, as it is the sole partition on that physical drive?
[14:32] <OerHeks> TheFly, sure you can do that.
[14:32] <TheFly> OerHeks:  LOL okay, thank you!
[14:32] <OerHeks> the old mbr got a max of 4 primairy p.
[14:33] <OerHeks> newer GPT does not have this restriction.
[14:33] <TheFly> OerHeks:  Understood!
[14:34] <napoleao> OerHeks I dont what to hide the launcher, I want the launcher not to show the icons of applications that are running in a different virtual desktop, for example, I have skype running in virtual desktop 2, so when I am using virtual desktop 1 it should not show the skype icon in the launcher
[14:34] <peepsalot> is there an app that will let me browse the contents of a .img file without mounting it
[14:35] <OerHeks> napoleao, hmm there is no tweak for that, in unity-tweak, only to show the launcher on 1 desktop only
[14:35] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[14:35] <sweatsuit> k1l_: thanks
[14:36] <napoleao> yes i have installed unity tweak
[14:36] <napoleao> i always use gnome-shell but I am starting to like a lot unity
[14:36] <napoleao> but i miss that feature
[14:36] <napoleao> of hiding different virtual desktops icons
[14:38] <OerHeks> napoleao, i understand, i have no clue there, only recent post about the top panel and indicators.
[14:38] <napoleao> ok thanks :)
[14:46] <cluelessperson> Hi all, I use an intel wireless card (7265? i think?), and every once in awhile, it drops out for a minute or two
[14:46] <cluelessperson> Seems to go away if I disable wireless N
[14:46] <cluelessperson> Anyway to fix?
[14:58] <UbuntuMate1604> Hello
[15:01] <abdulachik> hello
[15:13]  * saturniid says hello
[15:13] <Ascavasaion> I upgraded form the 14.04 LTS to 16.04.1 LTS and lost GUI.  I reinstalled the whole gnome desktop and that got me back into desktop.  I have a lock button in the start/clicker/taskbar/LX Panel it in LXDM desktop (Lubuntu).  When Ilock the desktop now i cannot get it out of the locked state at all, it remains black and nothing happens when I move the mouse or type characters.  i am forced to switch computer completely off and
[15:13] <Ascavasaion> to restart losing any work I was busy with.  Please can someone advise.
[15:16] <root____> hey!
[15:17] <ioria> Ascavasaion, try to remove light-locker , but then you'll need xscreensaver
[15:17] <OerHeks> Ascavasaion, try to flip to tty1 and back, ctrl alt F1, and back to gui with ctrl alt F7
[15:20] <telboon> does anyone experience screen flickering when the mouse cursor disappear?
[15:20] <telboon> this happens when i have my terminal is open and my cursor is on the terminal. when i type, the cursor disappear and the screen flickers
[15:21] <telboon> this occurs again when my mouse disappear inside the VM (using Virtual Box)
[15:21] <telboon> happens after update to 16.04
[15:21] <setuid> What's the easiest way to find the VERSION of a binary, in an upstream archive package/distro? For example, I need to find which .deb and compatible distro has /usr/bin/foo v4.5.6
[15:21] <setuid> telboon, did you install the vm tools inside the guest?
[15:22] <setuid> telboon, and is your host's X config set to use hwcursor or swcursor?
[15:22] <telboon> setuid: yes. but that's not related the VM
[15:22] <telboon> setuid: it occurs in my local native terminal also (when my cursor disappear when i type)
[15:22] <setuid> how is the guest's vm tools not related to the vm? :)
[15:22] <telboon> setuid: ah. i mean the flickering
[15:22] <OerHeks> mouse should disappear
[15:22] <setuid> I just joined, so catching up... flickering cursor while typing? the I shaped bar?
[15:22] <telboon> setuid: how do i check the hwcursur?
[15:23] <telboon> setuid: flickering screen when cursor disappear
[15:23] <setuid> Sounds like a video card issue, vert/horiz refresh too high? flaky drivers?
[15:24] <telboon> setuid: only happened after 16.04
[15:24] <telboon> setuid: will check the refresh just to check
[15:24] <setuid> Right, different drivers, different kernel
[15:24] <Emmeci> I'm trying to get the snap version of Libreoffice 5.2 but i get this error: error: cannot install "libreoffice": Get https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/snaps/details/ubuntu-core?channel=stable&confinement=strict: net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
[15:24] <setuid> Try moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way, restart your dm and see if it happens
[15:24] <Emmeci> i don't know why. Is the server down?
[15:24] <setuid> Emmeci, proxy between you?
[15:24] <Emmeci> nope
[15:25] <Emmeci> i have tried from 13:00 to now
[15:25] <telboon> setuid: there's no /etc/X11/xorg.conf....haha
[15:26] <setuid> telboon, Does your screen flicker anywhere elsse? or only when typing in term?
[15:27] <telboon> setuid: so far 2 repeatable occassions (1) When i type in term when my mouse is in the terminal (causing cursor to disappear and screen to flicker) and (2) when i move my mouse to within VM (cursor disappear and screen flickers)
[15:27] <setuid> The whole screen flickers?
[15:30] <telboon> setuid: yes, the whole screen flickers (though my naked eye only manages to see black on the bottom section of the screen, but pretty sure it's not confined to any window)
[15:31] <setuid> Sounds like either a bad cable/connection (unshielded HDMI or DVI cables can cause this) or your driver is trying t push a different refresh rate than your card/monitor can handle
[15:31] <setuid> So in your X config, tame it
[15:32] <hdon> hi all :) is /tmp usually part of the / filesystem these days? i'm used to it being a tmpfs in default configuration
[15:34] <bekks> hdon: Basically you can place /tmp wherever you want.
[15:40] <hdon> bekks, word. thanks
[15:41] <telboon> setuid: okay. will play around. thanks anyway :)
[15:45] <Ascavasaion> Joel@fellowship:~$ lxsession-edit
[15:45] <Ascavasaion> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:46] <Ascavasaion> Worst thing I ever did was the distro upgrade from 14 LTS to 16 LTS
[15:46] <Ascavasaion> It stuffed everything up.
[15:48] <compdoc> 14 still runs great. so does 16
[15:48] <Ascavasaion> compdoc: I think fresh install is the only option left for me.
[15:48] <compdoc> what happens?
[15:48] <compdoc> theres a lot of changes that went into 16
[15:48] <compdoc> probably 15 too
[15:49] <Ascavasaion> comgot: the problems are endless...errors all the time... etc.
[15:49] <k1l_> you could ask in #lubuntu if that is a known issue (which i doubt).
[15:49] <Ascavasaion> anyway... let me get going, home time! :D
[15:50] <k1l_> Ascavasaion: was the upgrade successfull? or were there issues? any 3rd party repos involved?
[15:50] <k1l_> or any hardware issues like faulty ram?
[15:50] <b4r> how would I fix a login via gdm when gdm complains of a invalid context?
[15:50] <b4r> how would I fix a login via gdm when gdm complains of being unable to find a valid context?
[15:52] <Ascavasaion> kl23: gnome desktop disappeared, continual errors and popups to report them, segentation faults when i run some command line apps, bootup has issues and needs to be done a couple of times to work, boot up locks at times, and a ctrl+Alt+F1/F2 is the only way to continue, screen lock locks and never unlocks, and and and.  Anyways, let me get going.  thank you guys for always being so helpful.
[16:01] <awsumpwner27> I'm looking for some newbie advice. What's a good directory where I can keep the code that I wrote?
[16:05] <ikonia> awsumpwner27: anywhere you want
[16:06] <k1l> awsumpwner27: make a folder in your users home directory.
[16:06] <Codfection> why my plank is not running automatically after restartin
[16:12] <b4r> ikonia: k1l: you mean a smart way to do it?
[16:12] <b4r> also
[16:12] <b4r> how would I fix a login via gdm when gdm complains of being unable to find a valid context?
[16:12] <b4r> help online regarding `restorecon -R /' and `filefix restore' did not solve the issue
[16:13] <k1l> b4r: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[16:13] <b4r> k1l: elaborate
[16:14] <k1l> what OS is that?
[16:14] <ikonia> b4r: what ?
[16:14] <b4r> you mean the data from lsb-release or os-release?
[16:14] <ikonia> what are you doing and why are you asking me ?
[16:14] <k1l> i only find red hat issues with that error
[16:14] <b4r> ikonia: what what?
[16:14] <ikonia> looks like your using a redhat box
[16:14] <b4r> looks like
[16:14] <k1l> b4r: so i ask you: what OS is that exactly?
[16:15] <b4r> k1l: tell me where to get the information you desire and/or commands to run and then to provide you the output you desire
[16:15] <ikonia> b4r: what OS are you running
[16:15] <ikonia> b4r: just answer the question
[16:15] <b4r> ubuntu of course
[16:16] <ikonia> b4r: then why are you tyring to configure selinux context
[16:16] <ikonia> that is pretty much only ever on redhat box's
[16:16] <tgm4883> b4r: what is teh output of 'lsb_release -a'
[16:16] <b4r> ....
[16:16] <k1l> b4r: "lsb_release -a" will tell you what version it is
[16:16] <b4r> k1l: do you want me to provide the output from `lsb_release -a`?
[16:16] <tgm4883> b4r: yes
[16:16] <b4r> No LSB modules are available.
[16:17] <b4r> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:17] <b4r> Description:    Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[16:17] <b4r> Release:        16.04
[16:17] <b4r> Codename:       xenial
[16:17] <bekks> !pastebin | b4r
[16:17] <tgm4883> ikonia: we probably shouldn't assume something is redhat just because it usually runs there
[16:17] <tgm4883> !info selinux
[16:17] <ikonia> b4r: did you install this machine ?
[16:17] <ikonia> tgm4883: I'm not assuming - I'm asking
[16:17] <b4r> ikonia: this machine has been installed by yours truly
[16:18] <ikonia> b4r: did you install selinux ?
[16:18] <b4r> of course
[16:18] <ikonia> why
[16:18] <b4r> relevance?
[16:18] <ikonia> to understand the situation you are in
[16:18] <ikonia> just answer the questions
[16:18] <ikonia> why did you install selinux
[16:19] <b4r> there was a desire to install selinux, therefore it was installed
[16:19] <ikonia> why though
[16:19] <ikonia> why did you need/want it
[16:19] <tgm4883> b4r: you aren't going to find a lot of help/knowledge regarding selinux on ubuntu in here
[16:19] <ikonia> funny enough - I do run it
[16:19] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking to understand the situation
[16:19] <k1l> b4r: its very hard to help you if you cant/wont describe the whole setup and issue. the issue you have is not a standard issue. so the setup is important to find a fix for that. but i lost interest in helping if the users tries to hide the info. good luck
[16:20] <b4r> k1l: asking "why" repeatedly is moot
[16:20] <ikonia> ok then, lets leave it there then
[16:20] <b4r> why did you install ubuntu?
[16:20] <b4r> why does it matter?
[16:20] <ikonia> lets leave it
[16:21] <ikonia> you want to try to give smart answers to people who can and would help you, probably best to not take it forward
[16:22] <PhoenixSTF> Hello, keepass2 is not running on 16.04 system.argumentexception
[16:22] <b4r> ikonia: you want to know why I installed selinux and I said because I wanted to install it, the reason for my want? to learn it, same with ubuntu. Enlighten me as to why this helps you
[16:22] <ikonia> b4r: not interested in your problem any more,
[16:22] <b4r> which one? you'll need to elaborate
[16:23] <ikonia> any of them
[16:23] <tgm4883> b4r: in this channel, often we'll run across users doing something that doesn't make sense/isn't in their best interest/doesn't accomplish what they set out to do/is much more difficult they way they are trying to do it. Finding out what their use case is and why they are trying to do something in a specific way is essential to supporting them
[16:23] <Pici> btw, ubuntu's standard access control system is via apparmor. I'm not sure that the selinux configuration has gotten much attention.
[16:23] <momken> Hello, I want to buy a new laptop and install Ubuntu 16.04 on it. But I am not sure whether Ubuntu will have all drivers of laptop or not? How could I know that before buying the laptop?
[16:23] <b4r> Pici: seems so
[16:23] <ikonia> Pici: it does work, I write contexts for it a fair bit to fit into auditing systems
[16:23] <momken> My candidates are Asus N & G series
[16:24] <Pici> ikonia: for Ubuntu?
[16:24] <ikonia> Pici: yes
[16:24] <Pici> ikonia: okay.
[16:24] <ikonia> Pici: some places have central auditing, and want uniform triggers, as RHEL is the default for a lot of places they want se policies that span the estate,
[16:24] <momken> Of course I can install 3rd party drivers anyway, but I don't want to do it, because I want to attach a live ext SSD over USB3.0
[16:25] <Pici> ikonia: makes sense.
[16:25] <ikonia> Pici: indeed,
[16:25] <FlavioZ> Hello everyone, I have a upstart job that will initiliazes a python daemon. So far, I can stop and start the job/daemon without any problem. However, when I use command kill to simulate a crash I want upstart to respawn. After the kill command, upstart keeps running but python daemon is not longer running. What could be the cause of the problem? Any advice is more than welcome?
[16:26] <Guest20361> Hi, how do i add a system monitor to taskbar, right next to "status area"
[16:26] <psycho> momken look for laptop with intels cpu, atheros wifi, all other work
[16:26] <ikonia> intel everything = safe
[16:27] <ikonia> !hcl | momken
[16:27] <Guest20361> Hi, how do i add a system monitor to taskbar, right next to "status area", (Precise Pangolin, Ubuntu 12.04)
[16:27] <b4r> Guest20361: why do you want to do that?
[16:28] <Guest20361> b4r i want to check my networking speed...
[16:28] <b4r> ok someone else can take over from here, I was just getting information that might be useful in context
[16:29] <momken> psycho, thank you very much, but what about GPU? I want to buy laptop with Core i7 4720HQ or i7 6700HQ and all these laptops have nvidia geforce GTX950-960-970-980
[16:29] <ikonia> Guest20361: sorry about that guy, lets see if we can help you
[16:29] <ikonia> Guest20361: so you want to add a monitoring applet to the task bar ?
[16:29] <momken> May I encounter a problem with nouveau driver detecting these cards out of the box?
[16:31] <psycho> momken, nvidia have good propietary drivers, especially if you wanna play some games(better than amd), if you dont play any games nouveau driver will do all another work very well
[16:33] <momken> psycho, game on linux? no thanks. nouveau is enough for me and I don't want to install proprietary drivers, because sometimes I disconnect my OS and boot it on home PC
[16:33] <momken> psycho, So you sure about support of nouveau for GTX9xx?
[16:34] <psycho> momken, maybe you should buy laptop only with intels integrated gpu?
[16:34] <okieiam> Hi
[16:34] <momken> pyrony, I want to, but all laptops with strong cpus have geforce gpu too
[16:35] <momken> And I can't configure and order, because I live in Iran. I have to buy preconfiged ones
[16:35] <psycho> i am not sure about support of gtx9xx by nouveau driver, but maybe on phoronix are some test about it
[16:35] <okieiam> anyone know offline Gps maps like Microsoft Maps metro app or Navit?
[16:35] <momken> pyrony, yes, phoronix, thanks
[16:36] <momken> psycho, this page is so old. no value: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAsus
[16:41] <psycho> momken, dell xps is good serie of laptops but i dont know if you can order it
[16:42] <psycho> as i remember, you can switch off nvidia gpu and use intels gpu
[16:48] <okieiam> no if your gpu is optimus
[16:50] <momken> psycho, dell 15 with 2kg? yes it is amazing but I guess it is expensive here.
[16:50] <momken> Asus N series is a good balance b/w price and performance
[16:50] <okieiam> sorry i mean not in reverse, mine is 940M and Hd 5500 so noway to off hd 5500
[16:50] <momken> but is heavy with 2.7kg
[16:52] <psycho> momken, if you like asus n series, you need to buy it )
[16:52] <momken> okieiam, optimus is a tech for auto switching gpu. right? I remember there was a problem with it in linux from previous days
[16:52] <momken> psycho, yeah. I more like asus g series, but it is expensive.
[16:53] <momken> okieiam, so what happens in default ubuntu 16.04 (no drivers installed) on your laptop? please answer me
[16:53] <okieiam> yes I have to use new canonical ported driver for 16,04
[16:54] <momken> okieiam, "canonical ported driver"? you mean nvidia's proprietary driver?
[16:54] <okieiam> if you let the system auto detcted and install the driver, it will break x
[16:55] <Kartagis> !find avconv
[16:55] <okieiam> right but there is new ppa for it
[16:55] <momken> okieiam, what if I don't install any driver at all?
[16:55] <okieiam> default driver is i915
[16:55] <ioria>  !info libav-tools | Kartagis
[16:55] <momken> okieiam, would it work? and whether works on nvidia or intel?
[16:56] <okieiam> it will work with intel only
[16:57] <Guest20361> Hi, how was the issue fixed in Ubuntu 12.04 with some external disks not beeing able to mount ?
[16:57] <momken> okieiam, hmmm. thanks. intel is enough for me, but then I have wasted my money on nvidia GPU :))
[16:57] <momken> okieiam, just last question: will the intel graphic detect all hdmi/vga ports?
[16:58] <okieiam> look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1559576
[16:59] <momken> okieiam, hmmm. So in my case the gpu will be bypassed at all (because I don't want to install a driver, because my OS is on external USB3.0 SSD)
[17:01] <Guest20361> Hmm, i am not able to find Ubuntu 12.04 on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?
[17:01] <okieiam> you can try this https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:01] <momken> okieiam, ok, thank you very much
[17:02] <okieiam> nvidia-361 work for me
[17:04] <vahe> hi all
[17:04] <okieiam> If you face back screen boot, then restart to recovery console:
[17:04] <psycho> hi
[17:04] <okieiam> mount -o remount,rw /
[17:05] <okieiam> prime-select intel
[17:05] <vahe> how not to include xorg? ubuntu ,what would work as the server
[17:05] <okieiam>  apt-get purge nvidia*
[17:05] <psycho> vahe, try ubuntu-netinstall
[17:05] <okieiam> you will revert back to intel
[17:05] <whiterabbit> Good evening people.
[17:06] <psycho> vahe, it will install ubuntu without xorgand without DE WM
[17:06] <vahe> psycho: to reinstall the OS?
[17:06] <joe_____> hi
[17:06] <whiterabbit> It's my first time on freenode and your channel.
[17:06] <Guest20361> good evening, whiterabbit ..
[17:06] <whiterabbit> I have a 16years exp of linux.
[17:06] <whiterabbit> Nice to meet you all.I want to learn from the best.
[17:07] <joe_____> is the hibernate issue solved in ubuntu 16.04?
[17:07] <whiterabbit> Thanks buddy.
[17:07] <psycho> vahe, you can remove DE and Xorg
[17:07] <vahe> psycho: no no I know that ,I need to stop ubuntu unity desktop
[17:07] <BogDrakonov> hey. I have a LUKS volume (not /) that keeps unmounting randomly
[17:07] <BogDrakonov> How can I fix that. It locks on its own and thus becomes unmounted
[17:08] <ni291187> I need help to help a friend share video and audio from a laptop and hits TV through HDMI
[17:08] <vahe> psycho: I have a minipc which only works in ubuntu unity
[17:08] <vahe> minipc
[17:08] <ni291187> Nick /sburwood1
[17:09] <psycho> vahe, you can just choose to not start DE
[17:09] <whiterabbit> My apologies i was lagging.
[17:09] <joe_____> is the dell precision m6600 hibernate issue fixed in ubuntu 16.04???????????????????
[17:09] <vahe> psycho: thanks, tell me how?
[17:10] <whiterabbit> Nice meeting you all you guys.Thanks for welcoming me.
[17:10] <whiterabbit> I support canonical w/ purchases wearables etc.I am from Greece.
[17:10] <psycho> vahe, one moment, need to remember how to do it )
[17:10] <whiterabbit> I really love ubuntu.
[17:10] <vahe> psycho:  ok thanks i wait
[17:11] <joe_____> whiterabbit....is the dell precision m6600 hibernate issue fixed in ubuntu 16.04?
[17:11] <whiterabbit> Tbh i have no clue.
[17:11] <whiterabbit> I haven't owned many laptops in my life.
[17:11] <joe_____> sicce you say you have 15 years of expeerience
[17:11] <Guest20361> whiterabbit: I would like to support Canonical with 1 (one) Dollar for supporting eol-distros...
[17:12] <whiterabbit> Yes but i never was a tester really.I am more programmer semi mastering linux and tech support.
[17:12] <whiterabbit> joe_____: you mean the 16.04 LTS?
[17:12] <joe_____> and what does tech support do?...rebuild clu from tron?
[17:13] <whiterabbit> Why don't you give it a try?
[17:13] <joe_____> yes that is the one
[17:13] <joe_____> i was hoping that others tried
[17:13] <whiterabbit> joe_____: noone knows everything.I should test the laptop.You just need to be in mood.
[17:13] <whiterabbit> i never had a laptop other than an acer aspire 5920g and a thinkpad edge e325.
[17:13] <joe_____> how do i enable the hibernate feature
[17:14] <joe_____> ?
[17:14] <whiterabbit> thinkpad edge e325 btw is ubuntu certified as i read.
[17:14] <joe_____> so the dell m6600....and hibernation seems not to work...officially
[17:14] <whiterabbit> hmm
[17:14] <whiterabbit> have you tried to google it?
[17:14] <psycho> vahe, i cant find this on my notes, cant google it because have only ftp and irc here on this pc, maybe somebody can help here
[17:15] <whiterabbit> let me check
[17:15] <psycho> guys how to disable DE in ubuntu
[17:15] <whiterabbit> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1775322.html
[17:16] <whiterabbit> check this out it's the best fit i could find.
[17:16] <vahe> psycho: thanks anyway friend
[17:16] <whiterabbit> but it seems the threaed is for previous releases.
[17:16] <psycho> whiterabbit thanks for helping
[17:16] <whiterabbit> damn
[17:17] <whiterabbit> yaw i am sorry i couldn't be much of a help.
[17:18] <whiterabbit> If you don't seem to find more threads about this issue.Maybe it's not something they are facing it many.
[17:18] <whiterabbit> What laptop is this?
[17:21] <l9> bekks: looks like you where right about the kernel error, rebooted and it came back as it should... thanks
[17:22] <joe_____> i hope i won't be needed to use windows
[17:23] <joe_____> quadro cards should work fine in ubuntu with full support for opengl too
[17:23] <Guest20361> How do i check how a specific problem was solved in 12.04 ?
[17:23] <joe_____> teoreticaly
[17:23] <ash_workz> where would be a good place to ask what this symbol is? http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/16b53/pahawh_hmong_digit_three.png
[17:23] <OerHeks> Guest20361, find the bugreport
[17:24] <joe_____> google..."specific problem"...bug
[17:24] <joe_____> that usually works for me
[17:24] <OerHeks> !google
[17:24] <jatt> ash_workz: http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U16B00.pdf
[17:24] <joe_____> nope...not "google it"
[17:25] <joe_____> i did not said "google it"
[17:25] <OerHeks> i don't think launchpad is indexed completely by google.
[17:25] <joe_____> i said exactly what you should type there
[17:26] <joe_____> only a mo ron would say "google it"
[17:26] <ash_workz> jatt: okay, so I don't know wtf this means, because there's a symbol that stands in place of the character on fileformat.info which is actually what I'm after
[17:26] <browndawg> Hi. I have a noob sysadmin question. How do you securely manage environment variables containing things like API tokens on a server?
[17:26] <browndawg> Manually I mean. Sticking it in ~/.bashrc seems like the worst idea in history.
[17:26] <browndawg> or typing them out on the shell
[17:27] <ash_workz> jatt: I guess it doesn't come up if your computer supports it, I thought the png would show but :: shrug :: must be a server generated image
[17:28] <ash_workz> jatt: maybe this shows up?: http://i.imgur.com/jj18NPC.png
[17:29] <jatt> you see the symbol in the pdf
[17:30] <jatt> it's an m-like thingie
[17:30] <gosu_> exit
[17:32] <OerHeks> unicode-table.com/en/16B53/
[17:33] <OerHeks> i just used bing with the name pahawh hmong digit three
[17:33] <joe_____> the one with specific bug solving...you still there?
[17:34] <ivantumacay> hello
[17:34] <ivantumacay> hello?
[17:34] <joe_____> hello
[17:34] <Nearoo> Hi
[17:34] <ivantumacay> hey joe
[17:34] <joe_____> ok
[17:34] <Nearoo> ....I'm having trouble with my soundcard. My pulseaudio daemon won't start...
[17:35] <ivantumacay> what's up guys haha
[17:35] <joe_____> this is the irc channel that has some solutions
[17:35] <ivantumacay> what do you mean
[17:35] <joe_____> #ubuntu-bug
[17:35] <ivantumacay> haha
[17:35] <ivantumacay> where are you from dude
[17:36] <joe_____> there you can ask if a specific bug has been solved
[17:36] <Nearoo> ... you are not talking to me, are you? ;)
[17:36] <joe_____> is this a dating channel or hope-to-solve things channel?
[17:36] <OerHeks> !ot
[17:37] <joe_____> yeah ubottu i was sarcastic
[17:37] <joe_____> oo...i got slammed...by a bot
[17:37] <joe_____> :))))
[17:37] <Nearoo> anyways, someone mind helping me? :)
[17:37] <OerHeks> joe_____, please stop.
[17:37] <joe_____> what is the problem?
[17:38] <joe_____> nearoo?
[17:38] <Nearoo> My pulseaudio daemon won't start.
[17:38] <Nearoo> "Daemon startup failed".
[17:38] <OerHeks> good start to see what is going on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:38] <Nearoo> I don't have any sound on my system.
[17:38] <jemadux> how to make hexchat indicator working ?
[17:38] <joe_____> did it ever start?..with current sound card?
[17:39] <Nearoo> yes, I think it did, about a week ago.
[17:39] <Nearoo> Sound cards etc are listed, but pulsaudio can't start.
[17:39] <Nearoo> I already deleted .config/pulse
[17:40] <Nearoo> and ~/.pulseaudio doesn't exists on my computer, I've read I should delete that too...
[17:40] <joe_____> 0erheks...it seems you are a boss around here...answer this...did the hibernate issue for dell precision m6600 is been solved for ubuntu 16.04?
[17:40] <OerHeks> jemadux, you might need to install hexchat-Indicator manually? its not enabled here by default
[17:40] <joe_____> then i will hapily leave the channel
[17:40] <jemadux> OerHeks: thanks
[17:41] <joe_____> nearoo...some cards do not work with pulse audio
[17:41] <joe_____> remove it from software center
[17:42] <Mathisen> does tails work to install in 16.04 ?
[17:42] <Nearoo> hmmm, but it did work.... I will do that if nothing else works. Any recommondation for an alternative? (is there any?
[17:42] <Nearoo> )
[17:42] <OerHeks> seems not, this one got a tag about bios outdated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302
[17:42] <joe_____> or synaptic if you allready have it installed
[17:42] <Nearoo> ok, thx
[17:42] <Nearoo> I will also look through the SoundTrobleshootingprodecude of OerHeks, I didn't try that yet.
[17:42] <joe_____> and then install jack...with every plugin it has under info....if using software center
[17:43] <Nearoo> kk
[17:43] <Nearoo> thx, bye
[17:44] <joe_____> that is good too....but if it doesnt work ...remove pulse audio...alsa things...and install jaack with it's things and plugins
[17:44] <cschneid_> I'm trying to get a setup of 10.04 in a VM to test some stuff against an older version. I'm having a hard time getting apt sources to work. Is there a guide / listing of working sources? I know it's out of maintenance now, but I need to try some stuff against an older GCC & surrounding libs
[17:44] <OerHeks> cschneid_, 10.04 is dead. EOL
[17:45] <joe_____> you will....at first probably have only basic things like playback only
[17:45] <joe_____> give it a few weeks...and you will have most of devices the sound card has
[17:46] <joe_____> that happened with my creative soundblaster live 24 bit external
[17:46] <cschneid_> OerHeks: I'm aware. I'm not trying to stand up a new system. I'm working on some C code that needs to compile on systems that are that old, and exist. And I can't tell customers to suck it up and upgrade.
[17:46] <tgm4883> !eol
[17:46] <OerHeks> you can walk the old-releases way, but i take this not seriously. see !eolupgrade
[17:47] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[17:47] <OerHeks> it gives 1 server with old packages.
[17:47] <cschneid_> these are not my systems. Stop telling me to upgrade. They don't belong to me, or my company. I just want to confirm that the code I wrote compiles on them.
[17:47] <joe_____> 0erHeks...are you going to pay for the computers needed for the upgrade?..
[17:48] <OerHeks> no o, you can use the repositories, usually meant to upgrade, but for your goal it is oke
[17:48] <joe_____> this is why i hate the current status of linux comunity
[17:48] <tgm4883> cschneid_: I'm not. If you read the link, you'll see how to use the repos
[17:48] <tgm4883> joe_____: why?
[17:48] <OerHeks> but it is 1 server ;-)
[17:48] <dax> cschneid_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replace the contents with the content of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list , replacing CODENAME with lucid
[17:49] <cschneid_> tgm4883: thanks. That wasn't clear :)
[17:49] <cschneid_> I've just been yelled at repeatedly for trying to setup old systems, across several communities. :-/
[17:49] <joe_____> cshneid...something of this nature happened to me when the devs decided to change the "wlan0" to wls1
[17:50] <joe_____> and for 2 months i didnt have wireles
[17:50] <tgm4883> cschneid_: TBF, someone should make a call to stop supporting old unsupported releases, but IDK your business
[17:50] <ash_workz> jatt: no, the pdf shows legit symbols; I'm looking for like a placeholder symbol or something
[17:50] <joe_____> beaccaause of "eol" and "upgrades"
[17:50] <OerHeks> development uses them too, to track regressions.
[17:50] <cschneid_> yeah, I'm writing a tiny piece of an app that customers use. I am not encouraging people to stand up new systems, but I'm also in a spot where I can force people to upgrade
[17:51] <ioria> cschneid_, you can also try a debootstap and schroot , idk if it works with lucid
[17:51] <tgm4883> cschneid_: I know, I'm just saying that someone should be making that call, and it sounds like in your company that isn't happening
[17:51] <OerHeks> heartbleed, oh my
[17:52] <ash_workz> jatt: for example, you know how you might see a box with 4 numbers in it representing "a unicode character with the following code should be displayed here, but instead you're getting *this box symbol* " — well what if you wanted to display a *this box symbol* to people?
[17:52] <cschneid_> we're distributing this to 3rd parties. Our systems are running LTS supported versions of ubuntu.
[17:52] <joe_____> cshneid...what are the configs of the pc's...generaly?
[17:52] <joe_____> like cpu ram...hdd?
[17:52] <joe_____> in the company?
[17:52] <tgm4883> cschneid_: I fully understand, you're clients are running super old versions of Ubuntu. I'm saying someone should say they are no longer supported
[17:53] <cschneid_> tgm4883: I know, I push back every time. But it's currently decided it's worth the money to support them
[17:53] <joe_____> but he can develop the app on the same version as his costumers...couldn't he?
[17:53] <tgm4883> cschneid_: yep, that's usually the case when this happens
[17:53] <razor1101> You should try saying that to XP users
[17:53] <tgm4883> joe_____: yes?
[17:53] <mass> ubuntu touch
[17:54] <mass> there
[17:54] <dax> mass: #ubuntu-touch if you're looking for its channel
[17:54] <cschneid_> hmm? We're a mac shop, writing plugins for ruby on rails - this plugin needs a C extension. So now I have to care a lot more about the environment is all.
[17:54] <cschneid_> Thanks for the help
[17:54] <mass> thanx
[17:55] <mass> thanks
[17:55] <joe_____> then if you get the amount of money he is happy with he has to do that
[17:55] <joe_____> if he is getting
[17:55] <joe_____> the same problem is with the ms os'es
[17:56] <joe_____> you cantt ask a dos prog to run on win 10
[17:56] <joe_____> and ms to help you do that
[17:56] <tgm4883> joe_____: I'm not sure why we're discussing this anymore. He's got the answer he was looking for.
[17:56] <joe_____> oh ok
[17:58] <bones7> hi guys. can you please help? i use xubuntu 16.04 on a samsung ativ book 7 and sometimes the screen resolution kind of "resets" - it changes to a higher resolution (not sharp), i can get the screen down and up with the mouse curser. Why does it happen? Any idea? In between: my ativ book got 2 graphic cards, an onboard and a AMD HD8570M. i had the same problem with xubuntu 14.04 before.
[17:59] <joe_____> what video card do you have?
[17:59] <bones7> AMD HD8570M
[18:00] <joe_____> are you using the proprietary drivers?
[18:00] <joe_____> for the card?
[18:00] <OerHeks> oh, that HD8570 will be supported by the Radeon open driver only in 16.04
[18:00] <OerHeks> not even the AMDgpu :-(
[18:01] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[18:01] <joe_____> he doesnt states what driver is using
[18:01] <OerHeks> i think you need to disable one of them in your bios
[18:01] <bones7> just a sec
[18:01] <OerHeks> he uses the radeon now.
[18:02] <mass> i wont help channel for debian
[18:02] <DJones> mass: That would #debian
[18:02] <mass> the ##debian its unoffical
[18:03] <mass> DJones: #debian its unofical
[18:03] <OerHeks> to show what driver in use:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[18:04] <bones7> it should be the open source driver:
[18:04] <bones7> xubu@Xubu:~$ glxinfo | grep 'OpenGL version string'  >> OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
[18:04] <OerHeks> mass, you need to be registered with #freenode to join #debian.
[18:04] <CodeMouse92> Any recommendations for an app to record audio directly off the "speakers" (sound card, or 'stereo mix' as Windows called it)?
[18:05] <CodeMouse92> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS x64
[18:05] <joe_____> bones7 is yyou use the open source driver try using the prorietary one if available
[18:05] <wasq> Hi. I am unable to automatically execute a script at startup for some reason. The script works fine and I've added it to 'application autostart' in 'session and startup' but it doesn't execute at startup for some reason. Can someone help? The path is fine. (ubuntu 14.04,xfce)
[18:05] <joe_____> if you use...cr ap with this keyboard
[18:06] <bones7> ok, thank you!
[18:06] <OerHeks> lolz, joe_____ read the info, there is no closed prop driver for ATI/AMD in 16.04.
[18:06] <joe_____> you enable the driver from "additional drivers"
[18:06] <OerHeks> even the amd site gives the AMDgpu beta driver
[18:06] <joe_____> realy?
[18:06] <OerHeks> not joking here
[18:06] <joe_____> then why windows work and linux don't?
[18:07] <joe_____> something deefinitely happens
[18:07] <bones7> i report
[18:07] <tgm4883> joe_____: huh?
[18:08] <joe_____> bones7 when the resolution goes haywire?...is it when you watch movies in full screen?
[18:08] <joe_____> or when randomly?
[18:09] <joe_____> or randomly?
[18:10] <joe_____> beacause my radeon 5650 did that when i switched to a resoultion beyond the drivers "capaablities"
[18:10] <joe_____> or when the aplication did that anyway
[18:12] <joe_____> no one answwered my question anyhow
[18:12] <joe_____> bbye people....take care
[18:16] <Sina_Maleki> Hi all
[18:16] <david__> hi!
[18:18] <Sina_Maleki> We are going to install openstack via autopilot of ubuntu on 8 hp servers , so which cisco switch model do you offer ?
[18:20] <dandels> Sina_Maleki, you'll probably have more luck on ##networking
[18:20] <dandels> There might be other channels but I don't know them
[18:28] <Qpex> exit
[18:28] <Qpex> exit
[18:30] <Vacuum_> does Kubuntu and ubuntu supports touch devices like touch laptops and tabs?
[18:31] <OerHeks> most touch panels yes.
[18:31] <Vacuum_> OerHeks: 'touch panels'?
[18:32] <OerHeks> well, a laptop got a lcd panel, most of them work OOTB
[18:32] <Guest64126> getting a very annoying error when attempting to save partition table w) using fdisk
[18:32] <OerHeks> what you mean with tabs i am not sure
[18:32] <Vacuum_> OerHeks:  latest dell has a laptop that is converted to tab but ignore that as its a laptop in any way
[18:33] <Guest64126> The partition table has been altered!  Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Syncing disks.
[18:33] <Vacuum_> OerHeks:  so the LTS will work with thsoe laptops?
[18:33] <OerHeks> try it with live-usb ?
[18:33] <Guest64126> What possible can this be?
[18:34] <OerHeks> Guest64126, some bios versions can protect the mbr, or that disk is part of raid, or uses gpt ..
[18:35] <EriC^^> Guest64126, try sudo partprobe
[18:36] <EriC^^> the kernel needs to reread the new partition table, or you can reboot
[18:36] <domargan> Hi guys, is this a known bug? My terminals completely freeze after I type "cd ~" + TAB on Ubuntu 14.04. Tried with zsh and bash, on GNOME terminal, Guake, and Terminator. They all just stay frozen and I have to kill them from outside, Ctrl-C does not work. I tried googling but no results.
[18:37] <kulelu88> Hello
[18:37] <EriC^^> hi
[18:37] <kulelu88> I am looking for this plugin: libpeas-1.0-0-python2loader . I cannot find it in software centre or via apt-get install
[18:40] <OerHeks> it is part of libpaes 1.16.0
[18:40] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas
[18:41] <Guest64126> OerHeks disk is part of raid
[18:42] <oldmanyoung> hi first time
[18:42] <kulelu88> OerHeks: I am on ubuntu 14.04 and it doesn't look like I have that version of libpeas. How do I get python2loader?
[18:42] <oldmanyoung> i'm on Mate, it's pretty nice.
[18:43] <OerHeks> kulelu88, it does, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas/1.8.1-2ubuntu2 but not that package.
[18:43] <OerHeks> don't know how to get it, else by building yourself?
[18:43] <OerHeks> or upgrade
[18:44] <kulelu88> OerHeks: why does libpeas-python2loader not exist in the repos though?
[18:44] <WhiteWabbit> us navy pays to keep windows xp up to date.
[18:44] <kulelu88> it is breaking functionality in my gedit desktop app
[18:44] <WhiteWabbit> how pathetic that might be
[18:45] <WhiteWabbit> someone get bill gates daughter gf and must be a geek so he'll be pissed off.haha.
[18:46] <OerHeks> why should it? kulelu88
[18:47] <kulelu88> OerHeks: because it is a dependency that is included within libpeas in future versions?
[18:48] <OerHeks>  12 may https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.debian.bugs.dist/Mq25RxHy5XQ/kHGbhAjJBQAJ  Hello Barry, > > so, libpeas-1.0-0-python2loader has officially made it into Debian.
[18:48] <OerHeks> it didn exist then, so as it is an LTS too, new functions will not be implented
[18:48] <OerHeks> so what does it break ?
[18:49] <WhiteWabbit> i need a valium, had a hard day, /me pops up a valium out of his pocket.
[18:49] <OerHeks> !ot | WhiteWabbit
[18:49] <WhiteWabbit> okie
[18:50] <kulelu88> OerHeks: see here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20714740/how-do-i-troubleshoot-ipython-listener-and-or-gedits-ipython-plugin . lots of gedit plugins break/don't-work because of the missing python2-loader
[18:51] <WhiteWabbit> from now on if i don't have a solution for someone's problem or something ubuntu related i'll just watch.My apologies.
[18:51] <WhiteWabbit> I already registered.
[18:53] <OerHeks> hard to believe that bugerort  involves 14.04 .. 	your trusty has gedit 3.10.4 or higher ??
[18:53] <Elec_A> Hi,I am "./configure"ing a source, but it needs a library, I have downloaded that library and I have compiled it. it has some .h, .o and .cpp files, how can I give the path of this library to configure ?
[18:53] <kulelu88> 3.10.4
[18:54] <kulelu88> the plugin I used was from software centre also: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gedit-developer-plugins/
[18:54] <kulelu88> the fact that it exists on the software centre but lacks the known bug dependency is interesting
[18:56] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/gedit-developer-plugins does not have that python package as dependencie. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas/1.8.1-2ubuntu2
[18:56] <OerHeks> so file a bugreport then ?
[18:56] <OerHeks> i guess the answer will be: no, that plugin is not going to be ported..
[18:56] <ioria> Elec_A, a library usually has a .a or .so extension ... do you have it ?
[18:57] <Elec_A> ioria: no there is no *.so file in the path.
[18:57] <WhiteWabbit> Elec_A: you may need extra options while compiling
[18:57] <WhiteWabbit> for example include etc
[18:58] <ioria> Elec_A,  well, you first need to have your lib compiled... or you cannot link
[18:59] <Elec_A> WhiteWabbit: How can I see if I need a option. makefile ?
[19:00] <kulelu88> OerHeks: what if I just installed the .deb package of libpeas-python2 ? will that fix it?
[19:03] <Elec_A> ioria: I'm doing make all
[19:03] <Elec_A> and I get no errors
[19:03] <WhiteWabbit> Elec_A: i think you can apply the command right after the ./configure like --includes
[19:03] <WhiteWabbit> and add =/path
[19:03] <WhiteWabbit> it's been a while since i was compiling so my apologies.
[19:04] <Elec_A> WhiteWabbit: I'm doing ./configure CPPFLAGS="-I/home/fa/Desktop/ALMA/CDL" LDFLAGS="-L/home/fa/Desktop/ALMA/CDL"
[19:04] <Elec_A> but still I get the same error
[19:04] <WhiteWabbit> what dependencies it has and what's that you're trying to compile??
[19:04] <kulelu88> Elec_A: you should be careful about compiling software on your work machine. Any mistake (severe enough) could cause complications
[19:04] <WhiteWabbit> can't you use apt-get install?
[19:05] <WhiteWabbit> there isn't on the repositories?
[19:05] <Elec_A> WhiteWabbit: I want to install IRAF CDL
[19:05] <Elec_A> I think there it is not in the repositories
[19:05] <ioria> Elec_A,  if , as i think , it's not in standard-path you need to tell the linker where the lib is ... g++ main.o -o app -L<path>/lib -lmylib
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> yes libraries and headers
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> you need to apply as parameters while compiling.
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> and i suggest you not make install
[19:07] <mrkvic> hi all, i'm new :D
[19:07] <WhiteWabbit> try to ln -s the executable to your ~/bin
[19:08] <WhiteWabbit> hello mrkvic
[19:08] <mrkvic> anyone can tell me a channel with italian community of ubuntu?
[19:08] <Pici> !who
[19:08] <ikonia> !it | mrkvic
[19:08] <Pici> !it | mrkvic
[19:08] <mrkvic> thank you - grazie!!!
[19:08] <WhiteWabbit> prego amico
[19:10] <WhiteWabbit> xine is still on the playground?
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> it was the best video player i ever compiled.
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> too much dependencies though.
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> i was back on SuSE back then
[19:11] <WhiteWabbit> before it was opensuse
[19:11] <ioria> !info xine-ui
[19:12] <WhiteWabbit> cool
[19:13] <WhiteWabbit> !info aide
[19:14] <WhiteWabbit> nice
[19:15] <WhiteWabbit> but i don't have so much sensitive files to use that.it's just too much.
[19:15] <WhiteWabbit> and it is heavy oh lord
[19:16] <WhiteWabbit> takes forever to initialize
[19:16] <WhiteWabbit> !info rkhunter
[19:16] <WhiteWabbit> sweet
[19:17] <ioria> !bot | WhiteWabbit
[19:17] <WhiteWabbit> huh?
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> sorry my english are not good enough to understand a lot
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> should i do something?
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> ah you mean i should check online at that url
[19:18] <Pici> WhiteWabbit: ioria is telling you that you can /msg ubottu yourself to interact with it instead of sending junk to the channel, or use the website
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> ok
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> okie
[19:18] <Pici> WhiteWabbit: also, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for random non-support chatter
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> sorry buddy
[19:18] <WhiteWabbit> ok
[19:19] <WhiteWabbit> my apologies for any troubles i may cause you tonight.
[19:19] <WhiteWabbit> now i know, i just first joined here.
[19:20] <Guest56316> hi
[19:20] <Bashing-om> WhiteWabbit: NP, it is all a process of learning .
[19:20] <WhiteWabbit> ok thanks, you are a great guy.
[19:21] <WhiteWabbit> i always go by the rules, i am a whitehat, i just need to get used to the rules in here.
[19:23] <Bashing-om> WhiteWabbit: This channel is support . and it gets busy .. anything not support related takes away from support . Thus #ubuntu-offtopic .
[19:23] <WhiteWabbit> I understand.
[19:23] <WhiteWabbit> Next time i will join that offtopic for offtopic things.
[19:24] <WhiteWabbit> Have a wonderful evening, i am running low on juice on laptop.
[19:24] <WhiteWabbit> Be safe.
[19:40] <mrkvic> is there any software like skype for ubuntu?
[19:41] <_cake> ... skype?
[19:41] <_cake> google hangouts?
[19:42] <OerHeks> there is a skype package in the partner-repo, and there is a newer beta skype somewhere
[19:42] <OerHeks> !skype
[19:43] <OerHeks> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[19:43] <OerHeks> sorry, alfa ( not even beta )
[19:49] <hdon> hi all :) what is a simple command-line utility to view images in common image file formats?
[19:49] <hdon> oh right, imagemagick comes with one i think... display?
[19:51] <ioria> hdon, you mean open image from terminal ?
[19:52] <sikun> have a LVM fs I'm trying to 'recover' it's part of a RAID 5 array from a NAS device. I'm able to mount the volume, but it is showing an 'empty' file system, versus mdadm showing a decent utilization of the supposed array.
[19:55] <allamoox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22728443/
[19:55] <b-yeezi> hdon, from the terminal (particularly xterm) you can use the ranger file manager. If you have w3m installed, it will show the image inline
[19:55] <allamoox> Hello I reinstalled for the 3rd time.
[19:55] <arooni> i have a ubuntu laptop that i've set up both AFP connections to as well as SAMBA connections... and both work fine. i'm doing this to let arq backup agent as well amazon cloud drive backup my files  questions 1) should i be using AFP or SAMBA ? i've heard conflicting reports.  2) is there a way to auto connect/reconnect to the laptop when it goes to resume?
[19:55] <allamoox> I try to install webmin but it doesn't complete...
[19:56] <arooni> (connecting to mac os x)
[19:56] <allamoox> and every time Im trying to install something I got this erro
[19:56] <hdon> b-yeezi, xterm supports pixmaps?
[19:56] <hdon> wow i never knew...
[19:56] <b-yeezi> yup
[19:57] <b-yeezi> man ranger
[19:57] <Bashing-om> !info webmin
[19:57] <hdon> thanks b-yeezi
[19:57] <b-yeezi> hdon, np
[19:58] <allamoox> ubuntulog:  but I downloaded the file.deb and I tried dpkg --install file.deb
[19:58] <allamoox> but It hangs..
[19:58] <allamoox> and I dont know what to do .
[20:00] <allamoox> ubottu:  How can I let this error go aaway
[20:01] <allamoox> dam.
[20:01] <allamoox> ok
[20:01] <tyler_d> arooni: AFP will eventually be turned off, and has known issues with mtu.
[20:01] <tyler_d> arooni: and yes.
[20:01] <arooni> tyler_d: so sounds like samba is the right way to do it;  how can i auto resume a samba connection after my laptop suspends?
[20:02] <tyler_d> arooni: you would want to set it up in your fstab and work from there
[20:02] <tyler_d> allamoox: try `sudo dpkg --install file.deb`
[20:03] <arooni> tyler_d: right now; i'm connecting from mac os x to my ubuntu samba share... how would i set up a fstab entry?  i'm a bit confused.  would i be connecting from my laptop to my mac ?
[20:03] <allamoox> tyler_d:  Im root already
[20:03] <tyler_d> allamoox: tail the logs while trying it
[20:03] <tyler_d> arooni: you are talking from your laptop to the samaba share automagic?
[20:04] <tyler_d> arooni: if that'
[20:04] <allamoox> http://www.webmin.com/deb.html Im follwoing this "how to setup"
[20:04] <allamoox> but they ask me to add their rep into my /apt/source.list
[20:04] <allamoox> is it safe if i did so?
[20:04] <arooni> tyler_d: i'm conecting from my mac os x to my ubuntu laptop (i want to run the backup programs available for mac on my ubuntu data)
[20:04] <tyler_d> arooni: if that's the case tehn I'm unsure how to get your osX to autoconnect
[20:05] <OerHeks> allamoox, that is an unsafe guide for 16.04
[20:05] <tyler_d> arooni: yah, you've have to ask an osx guy
[20:05] <OerHeks> allamoox, and webm in is not suitable for debian/ubuntu anyway, how does your postfix come up with webmin errors???
[20:05] <tyler_d> allamoox: I have no idea, I tend to default to 'not safe'
[20:05] <arooni> tyler_d: so theres not a way to have the laptop sort of reping mac os x after resuming from suspend?
[20:05] <Terminus_> I have a bit of pickle here guys, if any1 can help that would be awesome. I have a win8 on dev/sda1 (boot) and dev/sda2 (OS), i installed Ubuntu after that - dev/sda3 (/), dev/sda5 (swap) and dev/sda6 (EFI)... I couldn't see OS selection screen so I ran a grub repair tool, now I have grub on start but it's not detecting windows
[20:06] <allamoox> OerHeks:  I didnot install postfix
[20:06] <allamoox> I will install webmin , as its much easier
[20:06] <tyler_d> arooni: there is likely a way, I'm simply not versed in it.
[20:06] <OerHeks> allamoox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22728443/
[20:06] <OerHeks> allamoox, then you are on your own, good luck!
[20:07] <allamoox> OerHeks:  but because I got this error, I decided to go with webmin.
[20:07] <allamoox> its too complicated.
[20:08] <allamoox> and Im in a hurry to setup the mailserver
[20:08] <Terminus_> I managed to add a  menu item to grub for windows, but i have no idea how to config it to point to windows boot - this is what i added for menu item http://pastebin.com/piFJw9dc
[20:08] <gebbione> hi folks, i have upgraded from 14 to 16 and my monitors are not detected and video resolution is not great, what should i look into to fix it
[20:08] <gebbione> ?
[20:11] <gebbione> very helpful :/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[20:12] <OerHeks> not only ubuntu, linux global
[20:13] <OerHeks> AMD uses the radeon driver, or for newer GPUs the AMDgpu driver
[20:13] <gebbione> well i didnt have these huge problems on 14
[20:14] <OerHeks> oh there are more changes, init > systemD
[20:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[20:14] <arno_> Hi there. When I login, I always have to type my username and password in lightdm. I'd like to set the default user on lightdm, so that I only have to type my password. I don't know to do. Oh, and my user infos are stored remotely (LDAP maybe?), so my username is not in /etc/password. Has anyone an idea?
[20:15] <OerHeks> arno_, external, no. internal one could tweak lightdm login
[20:23] <gebbione> are radeon cards supposed to work right out in ubuntu 16?
[20:23] <gebbione> how can i config it?
[20:23] <OerHeks> "radeon" cards would be the cards that are not supported by the AMDgpu driver
[20:24] <OerHeks> yes, by the radeondriver.
[20:24] <OerHeks> the beta AMDgpu on their site supports:
[20:24] <OerHeks> beta driver Radeon™ RX 480 RX 470 R9 Fury/Fury X/Nano
[20:24] <OerHeks> R9 M395X 390X M385 380X 360 290x 285 m270x 260x
[20:25] <arno_> OerHeks: what do you mean? (internal/external)?
[20:25] <gebbione> well i have a HD 5770 and it is all wrong, but i just cant figure out what to configure if possible to fix it
[20:26] <Ascavasaion> Bashing-om: I found out partially what the problem was the other day.  Upgrade from 14LTS to 16LTS broke desktop... had to reinstall gnome desktop.  but that just got me into X Windows, and that is riddled with other errors. Segment faults with console commands, popups for errors all the time.  Decided to do a fresh install from ISO.  Busy backing up stuff ands creating bootable USB stick.  Just wanted to let you know what the issue was, and to
[20:26] <Ascavasaion> thank you for trying to help me the other night.
[20:26] <OerHeks> arno_, with ldap i don't know howto tweak that
[20:26] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, what broke on ur desktop?
[20:26] <OerHeks> arno_, i would consider that as a security issue.
[20:26] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Where do I begin :)
[20:27] <gebbione> well ok i can tell u what is wrong on mine
[20:27] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: It froze on bootup with a waiting for UID 118 ... which I discovered was gdm.
[20:27] <OerHeks> i think the radeon driver only supports 2 screens, iirc
[20:28] <gebbione> ok i m not that blocked
[20:28] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: When I run anythign in console I get segmentation fault and notified that it did a core dump.
[20:28] <gebbione> OerHeks, i have two screens but they are mirroring not extending
[20:28] <gebbione> OerHeks, also resolution is rubbish
[20:28] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: I am continuously getting pop up windows warning me that Ubuntu had an error and to ask me to report it
[20:29] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: screen lock has borken, it does not come back from locked screem
[20:29] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: When I eventually manage to get it back, only sometimes, the mouse stops working.
[20:29] <Elec_A> Hi, How can we know where is ./configure looking for libraries? because I have installed libcfitsio packages but It still gives me the error "CFITSIO is required.
[20:29] <Elec_A> "
[20:30] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Sometimes the boot hangs, sometimes not.
[20:30] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: All in all the upgrade from 14 LTS to 16LTS was dreadful and something I would not wish on my worst enemy.
[20:31] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, that is really annoying ... still i am also stuck. I wish they had a prompt to say that ubuntu is stopping supporting radeon drivers and created new ones that dont really work
[20:31] <gebbione> i would not have progressed with upgrading
[20:31] <gebbione> and this is version 16.4
[20:32] <xangua> gebbione: by Ubuntu you mean Nvidia?
[20:32] <xangua> And there are release notes, so yes it did
[20:32] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: It should ahve been nbackwards copatible.
[20:33] <gebbione> xangua, ubuntu removed Catalyst/fglrx in 16
[20:33] <gebbione> on 14 there is no prob
[20:33] <OerHeks> and not only ubuntu ..
[20:33] <gebbione> or at least not as bad as on 16
[20:33] <Ascavasaion> now I have spent the last hour or more writing ISO to USB.
[20:34] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, going back to 14?
[20:34] <tgm4883> gebbione: uh, no. That's not the whole story
[20:34] <arno_> OerHeks: I'm talking about just the username. I still want to continue to enter my password every time
[20:35] <mcphail> Elec_A: the ./configure script looks wherever the writer of the script has asked it to look. Many of them are generated by autoconf, and use pkg-config. Remember to add the -dev versions of any libraries you need
[20:35] <tgm4883> gebbione: IIRC, AMD dropped support for FGLRX on newer xservers, which 16.04 ships
[20:36] <Elec_A> mcphail: you mean the writer has specified it in configure.ac file ?
[20:36] <martinSue> Is this the right place to ask a usb-live ubuntu question?
[20:36] <OerHeks> arno_, nope i think it cannot be done, maybe someone else in this channel knows a tweak ?
[20:36] <gebbione> tgm4883, i read some stuff from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[20:37] <gebbione> but still my question is 1) how to fix it and 2) if reasonable a warning on install would have kept me away from upgrading
[20:37] <arno_> OerHeks: ok, thanks
[20:38] <OerHeks> arno_, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[20:38] <Murii> hey fellows
[20:38] <mcphail> Elec_A: if that is what they have used to make the configure script, yes
[20:38] <bekks> arno_: maybe you can tweak that in the config of lightdm.
[20:38] <Murii> I want to come to ubuntu after getting sick of arch linux
[20:38] <tgm4883> gebbione: how to fix what? What card do you have?
[20:38] <Murii> I need a good program to write to usb
[20:38] <Murii> any ideas?
[20:38] <mcphail> Elec_A: usually they ask pkg-config to find a library
[20:38] <bekks> Murii: dd. Same as on archlinux.
[20:39] <gebbione> tgm4883, Radeon HD 5770 with a small resolution now and no dual screen detection
[20:39] <Murii> I'm kinda in a hurry so an GUI app would be appreciated bekks
[20:39] <Elec_A> mcphail: it is using "AC_CHECK_LIB([cfitsio], [ffvers], [], AC_MSG_ERROR([CFITSIO is required.]))"
[20:39] <bekks> Murii: So open a terminal and use dd in there :)
[20:39] <tgm4883> gebbione: hmm, 5770 is old enough it should work with radeon I think. I'd have to check what my laptop has, but I think it's roughly that
[20:39] <bekks> Murii: you could have been done with that already.
[20:39] <martinSue> I'm wondering if it is possible to add a small data partition to my live-usb, and use that from within the live-booted system. The trouble i'm experiencing is that I can't mount it, it says "already mounted", I'm guessing because /dev/sdb is mounted ro at /cdrom ? Any ideas?
[20:40] <Murii> what do I need to type? bekks
[20:40] <Murii> not really that familiar with the command
[20:40] <bekks> Murii: That depends on what you want to do.
[20:40] <gebbione> tgm4883, so in the case where it is not working what is the best i can do?
[20:41] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: No, going to try a fresh install of 16 instead of the upgrade.
[20:41] <mcphail> Elec_A: that simply tries to link against the library
[20:41] <Elec_A> mcphail: in the documentation says : "These days it is normally better to use AC_SEARCH_LIBS([gethostbyname], [nsl]) instead of AC_CHECK_LIB([nsl], [gethostbyname])."
[20:42] <Elec_A> I mean documentation of "autoconf"
[20:42] <tgm4883> gebbione: well you can either A) check your logs, see if it's throwing errors on something and try to fix that, B) try creating a custom xorg.conf file that specifies the correct info (since it sounds like it's not detecting your stuff correctly) or C) go back to 14.04
[20:42] <Elec_A> mcphail: but I don't know how to convert it.
[20:42] <gebbione> how easy is c?
[20:43] <tgm4883> gebbione: reinstall
[20:43] <tgm4883> gebbione: well, backup and reinstall
[20:43] <mcphail> Elec_A: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:43] <Elec_A> mcphail: oh, Sorry then. thank you for your help.
[20:44] <OerHeks> gebbione, maybe writing a proper xorg.conf can do the trick, expanded virtual desktop.
[20:44] <mcphail> Elec_A: First port of call should be the Ubuntu repos, to see whwther the package exists already. Next port of call should be the developer, to ask why the libs aren't linking
[20:45] <gebbione> OerHeks, unfortunately i know nothing about writing a xorg file for my card config
[20:45] <martinSue> No ideas?
[20:46] <mcphail> Elec_A: if the package already exists in Ubuntu, but you want to compile a different version, running "apt-get build-dep packagename" will often install all the needed packages to compile
[20:47] <Elec_A> mcphail: unfortunately it is not in Ubuntu.
[20:47] <OerHeks> to create an standard xorg.conf http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there and the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:48] <MY123> Secure Boot is dead
[20:50] <Elec_A> when we say #include <something.h>,  something.h is in /usr/include ?
[20:50] <Elec_A> what places can a header file be ?
[20:50] <Elec_A> I mean without giving its address to compiler
[20:50] <MY123> Elec_A: also /usr/local/include, /usr/include/<triplet>, /usr/include/<arch>
[20:51] <Elec_A> MY123: so /usr/local/include is already known by compiler by default, yes ?
[20:52] <MY123> Elec_A: yes
[20:52] <Elec_A> MY123: thanks :)
[20:53] <gebbione> ok it looks like ubuntu installation created a xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:53] <Elec_A> How can we uninstall a package when there is no "uninstall" option in "make" ?
[20:54] <martinSue> I had no trouble doing this with Debian live, is it not possible in ubuntu?
[20:54] <gebbione> and i dont see a xorg.conf
[20:54] <gebbione> should i copy mv to xorg.conf?
[20:54] <genii> Elec_A: use distclean/dist-clean
[20:55] <MisterLeafy> am I in the room ?
[20:55] <MisterLeafy> I think I am
[20:55] <MisterLeafy> YAY
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> MY gosh Wireless is hard to get around here
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> Hello minksy
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> S
[20:56] <Elec_A> genii: thanks :)
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> so I havent installed ubuntu in a very long time
[20:56] <MisterLeafy> It looks all new
[20:59] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Fresh install has begun. :-)
[20:59] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, at least u have hope :p
[21:00] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: Always hope.. without it I would be using Windows :)
[21:00] <MisterLeafy> I just found out that if I press this Caps-lock key that EVERYTHING TURNS big
[21:00] <tgm4883> !ot | MisterLeafy
[21:00] <MisterLeafy> I got a nifty laptop !
[21:00] <MisterLeafy> its a scrap laptop from work
[21:01] <MisterLeafy> but I am ecstatic
[21:01] <Ascavasaion> MisterLeafy: Very nice... always nice to get new toys.
[21:01] <tgm4883> MisterLeafy: if you have a support question then ask it, otherwise take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:02] <gebbione> Segmentation fault at address 0x0
[21:02] <MisterLeafy> will do
[21:03] <MY123> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12250830
[21:04] <bekks> MY123: Do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[21:04] <MY123> bekks: yep
[21:04] <bekks> MY123: So ask it then.
[21:05] <martinSue> Can I config live-usb persistence to store only the files I choose?
[21:08] <gebbione> so if i run `sudo X :1 -configure`
[21:08] <gebbione> i get in my xorg log
[21:09] <gebbione> http://pastebin.com/7wyak24R
[21:10] <Ascavasaion> So, fresh install of 16.04.1 LTS done, and no WiFi, sigh sigh sigh
[21:14] <gebbione> any takers on the xorg troubleshooting?
[21:14] <gebbione> apart from running -> sudo X :1 -configure and getting  error http://pastebin.com/7wyak24R what can i do
[21:16] <rangergord> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04. /etc/network/interfaces doesn't contain anything for eth0, only for "lo". And yet I have eth0 working fine according to ifconfig. How is Ubuntu doing this? Does it have an alternative network configuration system?
[21:19] <OerHeks> gebbione, maybe this is a better howto
[21:19] <OerHeks> http://zeroset.mnim.org/2013/01/07/dual-head-monitor-setup-on-ubuntu-linux-with-xorg-and-radeon/
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Ascavasaion: Was away from the keyboard . Pleased ya have the means of forward progress .. even if it is that nuclear thing of RE-install . :)
[21:20] <NSABear> lets say I want to setup a email server. Do I have to worry about it getting put on a spam list if it's just for friends and I?
[21:20] <timyp> NSABear yes
[21:20] <NSABear> timyp, Hwo would I prevent this
[21:21] <cimbakahn> Hello Everyone!
[21:21] <timyp> an IP rep is something you will need to build up overtime, and most residential ISP's submit there IP blocks to spam filters by default
[21:21] <NSABear> timyp, this is in a datacenter.
[21:21] <cimbakahn> Say that i want to install slingscold from this PPA ppa:noobslab/apps ...... This is one of those PPAs that have alot of packages in it (239).  It is not just a repository for 1 item.
[21:21] <gebbione> OerHeks, my xrandr doesnt have bigger resolutions
[21:21] <timyp> https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
[21:21] <cimbakahn> Now, playonlinux is in there.  I already have playonlinux installed.  Is it going to cause problems with the one i already have installed?
[21:22] <gebbione> i can try to force a xorg file but as far as i know it should detect hardware capabilities on its own
[21:22] <tgm4883> NSABear: when you say it's just for friends and you, are you sending email to external addresses?
[21:22] <timyp> you can monitor your IP rep and see if you are on any block lists with that link
[21:22] <NSABear> tgm4883, yes
[21:22] <timyp> also make sure you setup DKIM and spf records
[21:22] <mahdi-sh> hi !
[21:22] <NSABear> We're not doing anything on the scale of cock.li
[21:23] <timyp> what the fuck is cock.li?? never mind I don't want to know
[21:23] <NSABear> timyp, go to the link
[21:23] <tgm4883> !ohmy | timyp
[21:23] <mahdi-sh> hi every body
[21:23] <NSABear> It's a email provider based out of romania with complete respect for privacy
[21:23] <timyp> no you lost my interest at cock sorry
[21:23] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: After the upgrade I did from 14 to 16 the only way I got back into GUI was to re-install the gnome desktop environment.  I am not suggesting you do it, I am just saying.  My system was so buggered that even that never fixed anything else but the GUI access I lost.
[21:23] <NSABear> It's a email provider based out of romania with complete respect for privacy timyp
[21:24] <NSABear> Here, I'll ruin it more. They also provide @horsefucker.org iirc
[21:24] <timyp> oh kind of link the old Lavabit
[21:24] <NSABear> not quite.
[21:24] <timyp> link=like
[21:24] <timyp> oh
[21:24] <NSABear> they do co-operate with the law
[21:24] <NSABear> They don't track you though
[21:24] <tgm4883> where's dax when you need him
[21:24] <timyp> is it for internal messages only?
[21:25] <NSABear> no, you can email outside of cock.li
[21:25] <gebbione> Ascavasaion, can i do that from synaptic?
[21:25] <NSABear> tgm4883, who's dax?
[21:25] <tgm4883> NSABear: don't worry about it
[21:25] <timyp> email is inherently  not secure by default, unless you use PGP. Once you cross domains its all unecrypted, SSL can only take you as far as your own domain
[21:25] <NSABear> tgm4883, You want to call ops on us because you're triggered by a email provider i presume.
[21:25] <OerHeks> NSABear, stop it.
[21:26] <tgm4883> NSABear: I'm not triggered by anything, I'd just like to adhere to channel guidelines
[21:26] <mahdi-sh> join #5hit
[21:26] <NSABear> OerHeks, stop what? tgm4883 We're talking about a email provider but aok!
[21:26] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: I did it command line... but you should be able to.  again.. I am not suggesting you do it.  What I know about Linux is frightening./
[21:26] <NSABear> I'll refer to them by their other email: tfwno.gf
[21:27] <timyp> Anyway NSABear if you want to monitor your email/IP reputation use this https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
[21:27] <timyp> and if you want to setup a bad ass email server use this http://iredmail.com/
[21:27] <gebbione> well at the moment the guides OerHeks is giving me look like they fix someone else problem :)
[21:28] <gebbione> when i do xrandr -q i only get one monitor
[21:28] <NSABear> OerHeks, btw can you not nick alert me telling me to stop doing things without specify what I'm doing that you don't like.
[21:28] <NSABear> timyp, ty for the link.
[21:29] <Ascavasaion> gebbione: OerHeks is the one to listen to.  He showed me how to get back into GUI when Screenlock refused to unlock.
[21:29] <NSABear> Ascavasaion, can't you just pkill -9 the lock daemon?
[21:29] <gebbione> well i guess my problem requires a lot of trial and error
[21:29] <Ascavasaion> NSABear: Each time?
[21:29] <NSABear> oh
[21:29] <gebbione> i knew however i should have not upgraded
[21:29] <NSABear> That's a bad issue ; - ;!
[21:30] <OerHeks> gebbione, odd, here i get 2 screens perfectly
[21:30] <anom> Hai
[21:30] <anom> Which is the best phone that I can use as a full OS, connect to a monitor and plugin keyboard and mouse?
[21:30] <Elec_A> hi, I have a library and I have *.so file in it. there are some header files and *.o files too. how can I install these files?
[21:31] <k1l> anom: sounds like you want to look at #ubuntu-phone
[21:31] <k1l> anom: sorry, the channel is #ubuntu-touch
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: Gernerally, you don't. What is it you're actually trying to install?
[21:31] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/a/XLXlf
[21:31] <anom> cheers k3l
[21:31] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: It is a socket library.
[21:31] <anom> k1l*
[21:32] <Elec_A> Jordan_U: so how can I give its address to ./configure ? I have exported CFLAGS and LDFLAGS but still it cannot be found
[21:32] <rangergord> k1l: you using ubuntu touch? if so how is it?
[21:32] <NSABear> anom, Like I said if you didn't recieve it
[21:32] <NSABear> Windows Phone is the best option for what you want sadly.
[21:33] <NSABear> anom, you might be able to get Ubuntu Phone on a Nexus
[21:34] <OerHeks> !touch
[21:34] <zerowaitstate> it looks like aws cli no longer installs on ubuntu 16.04
[21:34] <NSABear> Ubuntu Touch is more of a failure than anything.
[21:34] <cimbakahn> Say that i want to install slingscold from this PPA ppa:noobslab/apps ......
[21:34] <cimbakahn> This is one of those PPAs that have alot of packages in it (239).  It is not just a repository for 1 item.  Now, playonlinux is in there.  I already have playonlinux installed.  Is it going to cause problems with the one i already have installed?
[21:34] <anom> oh cheers nsabear
[21:34] <gebbione> OerHeks, the thing is that those tutorials assume xrandr -q shows the monitors but i see only one
[21:34] <NSABear> The Ubuntu Phone was too ambitious and never happened sadly.
[21:34] <gebbione> and it is called default
[21:35] <c0l0ny13_> When you are defining paths in *.conf files, is there a default path that is assumed?
[21:35] <OerHeks> .. NSABear if don't give supportive answers, please be quiet.
[21:35] <gebbione> so not much of a match
[21:35] <k1l> NSABear: stop that FUD.
[21:35] <anom> i just want a phone that I can run vim and chrome off
[21:35] <anom> then i can dithc me laptop
[21:35] <NSABear> k1l, what FUD? OerHeks I am giving supportive answers.
[21:35] <NSABear> He was a phone that can double as a computer on the go and Windows 10 is the only one currently targeting that usccessfully.
[21:35] <NSABear> You can't really buy ubuntu touch devices.
[21:36] <NSABear> BootToGecko has been retired.
[21:36] <NSABear> anom, Looks like Ubuntu Touch isn't completely dead yet.
[21:37] <k1l> NSABear: just stop your rantings and offtopic and offensive language in here. there are ubuntu touch phones and tablets on the marked. so saying "it never happend" is just plain a lie.
[21:37] <NSABear> anom, There's the Meizu Pro 5
[21:37] <NSABear> k1l, ...
[21:37] <NSABear> k1l, Don't put words in my mouth and lie.
[21:38] <gebbione> OerHeks, this is what i start with http://pastebin.com/gpp6BMuE
[21:38] <NSABear> k1l, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[21:38] <timyp> https://itsfoss.com/best-command-line-games-linux/
[21:38] <NSABear> It never happened. The fundraiser fell short.
[21:38] <gebbione> and the fact that only one monitor is visible and called default tells me something is not detected
[21:38] <gebbione> i wonder why#
[21:38] <NSABear> So before you get all "I"M A OP BAH ABH BAH!!1 LISTEN TO ME >:(!!" and throw a temper tantrum learn what you're defending.
[21:38] <NSABear> Ubuntu Edge, sorry not phone.
[21:38] <timyp> how did drugwars not make it on the list?
[21:38] <gebbione> also what name do i use for the second screen?
[21:38] <NSABear> It failed to meet the fundraising goal becuase it was too ambitious.
[21:39] <tgm4883> NSABear: you're comparing a hardware project to a software project
[21:39] <k1l> NSABear: that is not the only ubuntu touch device. and that is what you made it look like. but as said before, there is a channel for talk about the touch devices and this is all oftopic in here.
[21:39] <NSABear> tgm4883, I'm talking about the hardware side.
[21:39] <OerHeks> gebbione, me too, as you claim they mirror, not extend the desktop.
[21:39]  * NSABear rolls his eyes
[21:39] <CodingCookie> how can i update the atom editor ? just reinstall or is there a command
[21:39] <Elec_A> I'm trying to compile a code and I get fatal error: wx/gizmos/ledctrl.h: No such file or directory
[21:39] <NSABear> Moving targets are moving Targets. Anyways timyp you where usggesting a mail server for Ubuntu
[21:40] <tgm4883> NSABear: Then apparently you're confused, because the feature that he was talking about (being able to plug in a keyboard/mouse/monitor and use it like a computer) is a function of the software, not hardware
[21:40] <NSABear> tgm4883, he asked for a phone that could do that so you're clearly confused.
[21:40] <OerHeks> troll gets trolled :-D
[21:40] <NSABear> I told him a viable answer for a device that could do that.
[21:40] <k1l> we are done talking that offtopic in here
[21:40] <NSABear> You can do it with Android and Ubuntu touch but that's not the topic of this channel.
[21:40] <tgm4883> NSABear: he asked for a phone that could do that and you started talking about the ubuntu edge that didn't happen. That sure was helpful...
[21:41] <NSABear> tgm4883, I'm asking you kindly to please stop nick alerting me and trying to bring the discussion back.
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Elec_A: Again, what are you actually tryong to install?
[21:41] <Simbaclaws> does anyone know how I can open up my google drive documents through libreoffice? I have added a "online-account" through gnome and I can open up docx files but I can't open up the excel files.
[21:41] <NSABear> I'm trying to repsect k1l's orders but you're making it quite difficult by bringing it back.
[21:41] <OerHeks> gebbione, is this a laptop?
[21:41] <k1l> CodingCookie: you need to reinstall it if there is no updater in that program. it isnt shipped by ubuntu repos
[21:42] <tgm4883> lol
[21:42] <timyp> yes NSABear check out Iredmail.org its script that will install postfix, dovecot,  amavisd, sogo, roundcube, coupled with a nice webUI for user management in about 15 mins.
[21:42] <gebbione> OerHeks, it is a full desktop with 24 inch monitors
[21:42] <NSABear> timyp, damn :O!
[21:42] <Simbaclaws> I tried ooo2dg but this seems to not work with the current Oauth from google
[21:42] <jemadux> can i use mutiple mirrors at once ? cuz in debian in my sources.list i have http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/
[21:42] <timyp> here the script in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAdt2l1aDc
[21:43] <NSABear> timyp, another important question for you. I'm looking into getting away from Googl eservices as much as possible. What would you suggest for running on a Ubuntu box to replace things like Google calender syncing
[21:43] <timyp> sogo
[21:43] <NSABear> I want to sync to my own dedicated server hosted proffessionally so I can keep all my devices in sync. I'd also love to integrate with LXDE
[21:43] <timyp> uses active sync for most mobile OS's also included in iredmail
[21:43] <leonardo_> Hi guys
[21:44] <NSABear> timyp, So I can just passivley sync everything from my nexus?
[21:44] <timyp> Its an MS exchange killer https://sogo.nu/
[21:44] <timyp> works great on android
[21:44] <NSABear> No apps required?
[21:45] <leonardo_> i need a midi keyboard software
[21:45] <timyp> not for andriod once the Sogo server is setup you just configure the mail account on the phone as if it were an exchange server
[21:45] <NSABear> perfect
[21:45] <timyp> there is also a nice webUI for cals, contacts, and email
[21:46] <NSABear> timyp, what don't you do?
[21:46] <timyp> what you mean NSAbear?
[21:46] <timyp> what don't I do what?
[21:46] <NSABear> timyp, you've answered all my questions quickly and frinedly.
[21:46] <NSABear> timyp, You're like the customer support we want but don't deserv.e
[21:47] <timyp> thats what the community is for!
[21:47] <Ascavasaion> So, fresh install of 16.04.1 LTS done, and no WiFi.  lspci shows the wireless card is there.  Any pointers?  It worked perfectly in 14.04.1.
[21:47] <timyp> lol
[21:47] <timyp> thanks for the kind words
[21:47] <NSABear> timyp, timyp the community i run is quite offensive.
[21:48] <NSABear> We harden our ubuntu boxes whereever we can think of to prevent unauthorized access.
[21:48] <timyp> yea thats the internet for you
[21:50] <ohlolz> so in 16.04 right when it shows the login screen it goes black for like 1-2 and then reappears. is this normal?
[21:51] <ohlolz> does that happen to you?
[21:52] <NSABear> What's with the 60FPS cap on AMDGPU drivers?
[21:54] <ohlolz> hi ikonia
[21:58] <cimbakahn> Say that i want to install slingscold from this PPA ppa:noobslab/apps ......
[21:58] <cimbakahn> This is one of those PPAs that have alot of packages in it (239).  It is not just a repository for 1 item.  playonlinux is in there.  I already have playonlinux installed.  Is it going to cause problems with the one i already have installed?
[21:58] <tgm4883> cimbakahn: possibly
[21:59] <cimbakahn> I don't know how to get a PPA or a DEB for jut that 1 package.
[21:59] <cimbakahn> jut is just
[22:00] <bomek> cimbakahn, just use pinning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[22:00] <k1l> cimbakahn: install that ppa, run apt update, install that package, deactivate ppa
[22:01] <timyp> cimbakahn if you are concerned about dependence issues see if you can't use snap packages
[22:01] <timyp> that way all dependencies 's will be self contained
[22:02] <tgm4883> Or copy the package to your own PPA
[22:04] <ohlolz> tgm4883: are you on 16.04? does your screen goes to black for like 1 or 2 seconds right after it shows you the login screen?
[22:05] <tgm4883> ohlolz: I've got lots of systems on 16.04
[22:05] <tgm4883> ohlolz: I don't believe it does that, but I'd have to check one of them
[22:05] <ohlolz> tgm4883: it's when it shows you the first login screen
[22:05] <tgm4883> So before login, just after the login screen loads?
[22:06] <cimbakahn> I just found this PPA ppa:flexiondotorg/slingscold ...It only has slingscold and looks like it has a newer version.
[22:07] <ohlolz> tgm4883: it asks for my password, goes to blank right away like it updates the wallpaper then it comes back
[22:07] <ohlolz> goes to black tgm4883 *
[22:07] <tgm4883> ohlolz: let me fire up my laptop
[22:08] <cimbakahn> Thanks guys!
[22:09] <Elec_A> I install libwxgtk3.0-dev and it installed some header files in /usr/include/wx-3.0 . now I purged it but the header files are still there.
[22:09] <Elec_A> how can I remove wx3 header files
[22:10] <Elec_A> The reason is I have installed wx2.8 and I don't want wx3
[22:10] <Elec_A> wx3 is not back compatible
[22:11] <tgm4883> ohlolz: nope, I don't have that issue
[22:12] <ohlolz> ok tgm4883 thank you very much for taking your time and helping me
[22:12] <ohlolz> tgm4883: will search on the web
[22:14] <trism> Elec_A: the headers are in wx3.0-headers
[22:16] <Adam^work> okay, so... I'm running a mail server and a web server... neither can I access from LAN but I can access from WAN... I don't get it...
[22:17] <Elec_A> trism: Thank you :)
[22:18] <Jordan_U> Adam^work: Are you using the LAN ip or the public ip from the LAN?
[22:18] <Adam^work> anyone know a setting that would block connections from lan from doing a... http://www.example.org but if you are out there on the net and do the same it works?
[22:18] <Adam^work> if example.org is hosted in house
[22:18] <Adam^work> same network
[22:19] <Adam^work> everyone on the lan gets their ip from the router's DHCP server
[22:19] <Adam^work> the server is wired into the router, the rest are wireless clients
[22:20] <brmmm3> Hi. I've got a general question on uid and gid generation. On Linux uids are generated by finding the next free uid when a user is created. Same with gid. So on Ubuntu the first user gets uid 1000 and gid 1000. The second user gets uid and gid 1001. So now if we look at a very common situation where a family has several computers. Each member has it's own computer so it's own installation. So for example John's computer has the first user
[22:20] <brmmm3> john. Mary's computer the  first user mary. Each have the same uid 1000. Now John buys an external drive and formats it with ext4. On this drive he puts some private files. Then Mary connects this drive on her computer and she sees all files with mary's user name and group and she can read all the files. Isn't this a major design bug or am I completely wrong?
[22:20] <brmmm3> turtleon1on (~turtleon1@93-136-6-225.adsl.net.t-com.hr) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[22:21] <Adam^work> [internet]->[static ip cable modem]->[router]->[wired ubuntu server]/[wireless clients]
[22:21] <Adam^work> I'm thinking it's the router, I've never seen anything like this before, of course I've never had a static ip before either so...
[22:22] <arooni> hey folks; what are files/directories safe to ignore (in my home directory) during backups?  (ubuntu 16.04)
[22:26] <para000> hi guys
[22:26] <para000> very beginer in linux, need little help with setting up a VPN using OpenVPN, anyone good at this?
[22:32] <lordcirth> arooni, well, the cache dir ~/.cache
[22:32] <pam> I'm trying to transfer some MP3s to my phone via the usb cord...tried to connect via MTP...every few seconds a popup on my phone (samsung note 4) asks if I want to allow or deny the MTP connection.  This keeps on screwing up the file transfer.  What can I do to stop this from happening?
[22:33] <k1l> pam: sounds like a broken cable
[22:33] <pam> kll: this happens with a couple of different cables
[22:33] <para000> can anyone help me? so i manage to install OpenVPN and connect to it from another PC, but on my server i have multiple IPs and i want to asign 1 ip to individual conexion
[22:34] <pam> it'll be transferring files and then stop halfway through
[22:34] <k1l> or the usb ports on phone/pc?
[22:36] <craigbass76> We're homeschooling this year, and I wanted to be able to set up a sheet with some math problems for the kids to do. Can't seem to figure out how to get 5, new line, +5, new line, horizontal equals sign. Anyone familiar with LibreOffice Math, or some other program that will let me make worksheets?
[22:36] <pam> kll: it only stops when I'm transfering files.
[22:36] <k1l> hmm
[22:37] <ubuntu405> hi, any ubuntu based pbx distros?
[22:38] <smurfendrek123> Hey guys does anyone know of an alternative where i can easily plot functions by typing something similar to plot(y=x) and integrating functions and stuff
[22:38] <ubuntu405> with a nice gui
[22:38] <pam> k1l: is there anyway to debug the usb connection while the phone is connected?
[22:38] <k1l> pam: look at dmesg
[22:38] <trism> smurfendrek123: maxima is pretty good
[22:38] <pam> just type dmesg?
[22:39] <k1l> pam: yes
[22:39] <smurfendrek123> trism, but you can't plot with maxima right?
[22:39] <trism> smurfendrek123: yes you can in integrates gnuplot
[22:39] <smurfendrek123> oh cool
[22:39] <trism> smurfendrek123: if you get wxmaxima you can see it right in the window
[22:40] <smurfendrek123> what's wxmaxima?
[22:41] <trism> smurfendrek123: it is a gui for maxima
[22:41] <trism> !info wxmaxima
[22:41] <smurfendrek123> does it offer advantages, because i don't mind typing in plot and int
[22:41] <smurfendrek123> how do i exit maxima lol
[22:42] <trism> smurfendrek123: ctrl+d
[22:42] <smurfendrek123> thanks
[22:43] <smurfendrek123> does the gui just offer buttons that pretype some of the syntax for you?
[22:44] <pam> k1l: here is the dmesg output if you can take a quick look at it http://pastebin.com/0DWg7j5w
[22:44] <pam> k1l: if you search for samsung it'll take you to the part
[22:45] <trism> smurfendrek123: yes, there are menus and dialogs and such to simplify plotting and other things
[22:45] <k1l> pam: this looks like disconnect issue. does the phone work on other OS/pcs?
[22:46] <pam> I haven't checked
[22:46] <trism> smurfendrek123: but I'm pretty sure it all converts to maxima syntax so I don't think it really does anything maxima doesn't do
[22:46] <smurfendrek123> cool thanks trism
[22:46] <k1l> pam: check another usb port. and try to put out other usb devices at the same time.
[22:47] <smurfendrek123> any idea on how i get multiple figures in the same graph?
[22:47] <trism> smurfendrek123: you can use a list, say, plot2d([sin(x), cos(x)], [x, -%pi, %pi]);, but I don't really think general maxima support is appropriate to the channel
[22:48] <jjasinski> Hi all, I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 from the live cd. I went through the entire install process, but when I reboot, Grub doesn't seem boot.
[22:48] <smurfendrek123> okay that's it for those questions, huge thanks trism
[22:48] <jjasinski> I've tried running the disk repair tool
[22:48] <jjasinski> boot-repair
[22:49] <jjasinski> but I admit, the UEFI boot process is new to me
[22:49] <catbeard> hey guys, chrome with foxyproxy isn't respecting my hosts file, running ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[22:49] <jjasinski> I'm not trying to dual boot
[22:49] <jjasinski> but
[22:49] <catbeard> chrome 52
[22:49] <jjasinski> I have a second partition of ext4 data that I'm trying not to erase
[22:49] <jjasinski> so I don't want to just do the full install
[22:49] <pam> k1l: looks like its happening on the other usb port as well
[22:50] <catbeard> resolv.conf is set to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4, host.conf is set to order hosts,bind
[22:50] <timyp> jjasinski what Os's are you trying to dual boot?
[22:50] <gldvvtr> jjasinski, im having the same problem, errors with UEFI..
[22:50] <catbeard> ping gets the right ip in the hosts file, but chrome doesn't pull the same ip, dns prefetching is disabled (managed by ublock)
[22:50] <tH3G3nTl> hi there
[22:50] <jjasinski> timyp, not trying to dual boot.
[22:50] <jjasinski> but have a second parition that I don't want to erase
[22:50] <timyp> maybe try to enable legacy boot in UEFI
[22:50] <catbeard> trying to pull it up in incognito mode where ublock is disabled, can only access the ip via foxyproxy though
[22:50] <pam> k1l: thanks for everything so far.  going to look at this later.
[22:51] <catbeard> chrome://dns says prefetching and tcp-preconnect is disabled
[22:51] <jjasinski> timyp, is that a BIOS setting?
[22:51] <timyp> yea
[22:51] <timyp> maybe you will see something about secure boot, try to disable it and see if the OS boots
[22:51] <k1l> catbeard: sounds more like you need to ask the chrome and/or foxyproxy guys to get an answer on theat
[22:51] <gldvvtr> jjasinski, checkout this ubuntu help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:52] <jjasinski> gldvvtr, thainks looking at that link now
[22:52] <jjasinski> timyp, I have an HP Envy
[22:52] <jjasinski> It's a bios that's a bit different from what I've seen, but I'll look for that option
[22:53] <jjasinski> There is a boot order section that has a section for legacy device
[22:53] <jjasinski> (were I can rearrange the boot order of the devices, but I can't move the legacy stuff above the UEFI stuff)
[22:54] <timyp> maybe http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03653226, so many implementation of UEFI
[22:55] <timyp> there was nothing wrong with good old bios don't know why they had to f* it up
[22:55] <jjasinski> Thank you timyp, I'll take a look at that
[22:55] <ohlolz> is there a date when legacy boot will be a thing of the past?
[22:56] <timyp> now these UEFI boards can access the internet directly it's a recipe for disaster.
[22:56] <timyp> thats up to the hardware vendors I suppose
[22:56] <timyp> Ubuntu is suppose to have all the required signing keys for UEFI to boot correctly.
[22:57] <jjasinski> Good to know.
[23:01] <ohlolz> my update from 14.04 to 16.04 officially released on July 28th was a total disaster; after installing couldn't boot and etc. had to reinstall 16.06 from zero. just letting you guys know :D
[23:01] <ohlolz> 16.04*
[23:01] <timyp> yea http://askubuntu.com/questions/493409/is-disabing-secure-boot-needed-for-ubuntu-14-04-dual-boot-with-windows-8-uefi
[23:02] <ohlolz> disabling secure boot also helps with wifi problems, from what i've read.
[23:02] <timyp> I have gone out of my way to by hardware with traditional bios to avoid having to deal with secure boot.
[23:02] <ohlolz> using legacy because destiny
[23:09] <barnex> hey, I'm having an issue at work. Seems something went wrong and now kernel has no modules during boot.
[23:09] <barnex> I recognize this by the fact that the USB keyboard isn't working after grub
[23:09] <barnex> net isn't working
[23:09] <barnex> etc
[23:09] <rangergord> Hi. If I run   sudo echo "#" > /etc/snmp/snmp.conf   , I get permission denied. But if I do "sudo nano /etc/snmp/snmp.conf", I can edit it. How is that possible? What am I missing about permissions
[23:09] <barnex> and when I lsmod after booting, the keyboard module isn't loaded.
[23:09] <k1l> barnex: what did you do before?
[23:10] <barnex> k1l: I think I was removing old kernels with some bash loop from serverfault
[23:10] <barnex> because the /boot was getting full
[23:10] <k1l> barnex: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[23:10] <barnex> 14.04
[23:10] <k1l> is there an older kernel to boot in grub?
[23:11] <ProfessorKaos64> Does anyone here play quake on Linux? namely using FTE?
[23:11] <barnex> well, it's 1 am here and the net module isn't working as well, so hard to tell for sure. But there might be some left.
[23:11] <k1l> barnex: make sure "linux-generic" is installed.it will pull in the latest kernel and headers (which is needed to build modules with dkms)
[23:11] <CHVNX> ProfessorKaos64: Ask your question. Please do not preface it with audition questions.
[23:11] <barnex> ok, so just installing linux-generic and maybe dpkg-reconfigure should fix this?
[23:11] <barnex> assuming the /boot partition is correctly mounted?
[23:12] <k1l> barnex: no need for dpkg-reconfigure. and yes, /boot needs to be mounted if its a seperate partition
[23:12] <barnex> cool, thanks a lot.
[23:12] <ProfessorKaos64> If anyone uses FTE for quake, have you had trouble saving your video settings or loading them on next start?
[23:13] <barnex> Now the only issue I have is getting lan drivers so I can install, but I guess that's googlable with some lspci.
[23:13] <CHVNX> ProfessorKaos64: https://www.reddit.com/r/quake/comments/4vmjpz/cant_load_saved_video_settings_in_fte_any_help/
[23:14] <CHVNX> This issue?
[23:14] <ProfessorKaos64> Yes... seems as if I am the only one in the world :)
[23:14] <CHVNX> https://sourceforge.net/p/fteqw/tickets/32/
[23:15] <CHVNX> Honestly, the only thing I can think of, which probably isn't correct, is that you moved the game to /usr/share... suggesting potential permissions issues?
[23:15] <ProfessorKaos64> the binary is /usr/games the data is /usr/share/quake
[23:15] <ProfessorKaos64> the config file is read from $HOME/.fte/id1/fte.cfg
[23:18] <CHVNX> Is SteamOS an Ubuntu distro? I thought it was based on Debian.
[23:18] <k1l> it is debian
[23:19] <ProfessorKaos64> It's Debian Jessie , with some tweaks, such as a standalone compositor
[23:20] <ProfessorKaos64> I do have another quake 2 client I packaged, but it would be nice ot use FTE. If I have to, maybe for now, I'll keep my hack in the config file
[23:20] <ProfessorKaos64> if you change the settings, they will saved, then put the hacky "vid_restart "1"" in config file
[23:25] <Ascavasaion> Goodnight.
[23:25] <Ascavasaion> Oops, wrong room.
[23:34] <bubble_mood> Hi
[23:41] <Gallomimia> i seem to have choked on a kernel update come out today. any others seen that?
[23:42] <Gallomimia> oh. it's fixed now... or is it?
[23:44] <fxdf> oh maybe, did a new install of gnome today and it crashed out after i updated lol
[23:44] <Guest28793> Hi i have a problem i was wondering if anyone could help me with. I'm trying to create a LiveDVD using Geniso image and squashfs. I was able to get almost to the very end of the process but then it complains that the iso file size is over 4.1 GB in size and it stops there. I ran the command mksquashfs --help and it showed that XZ was NOT my deafult compression method which i believe is what caused my ISO file to be larger than 4.1 GB. How do i set my
[23:44] <Guest28793> compression to be XZ by default on Ubuntu? Any help would be great
[23:45] <Gallomimia> i installed new kernel packages. it complained that it didn't complete properly. i ran autoremove... seems to have fixed the problems. very concerning
[23:52] <fckfreen1> anyone have a thinkpad x240 with a 6 Cell battery?
[23:58] <netham45> Hi, I have two GPUs in my desktop, a GTX970 and an Intel card. I would like to load a VM and pass the Intel card through to it. I can do this using a paravirtualized guest in Xen but nvidia's drivers don't cooperate with Xen at all. Is there another option for passing a GPU through that'll let me keep my nvidia card working on the host?
[23:58] <netham45> I don't have VT-d either, I was using Xen's option for PCI passthrough on a non-VT-d CPU.