[18:14] <sakrecoer> geirdal: hi!
[18:15] <sakrecoer> geirdal: if it is problematic to senfd the sourcefiles of the graphics, could you send us PNGs without the logos and pictograms sometime, please? :)
[19:42] <sakrecoer> ok, autumna kryten, lets bring this thing where it belongs: here :)
[19:42] <sakrecoer> krytarik, even 
[19:43] <sakrecoer> autumna is suggesting that the first image in the feature tour is too jarring with the rest of the pages.
[19:44] <sakrecoer> i think the entire thing is jarring, but i'm open to try other things, more sober as autumna suggested.
[19:44] <sakrecoer> now that we have that thing it is easy to swap the images and have a look together (i presume)
[19:46] <sakrecoer> also, we should settle on the version of geridal s images we want to use... i picked the ones that appealed me the most in my sketch, but it might not be the ones everybody like the most...
[19:46] <sakrecoer> that was krytarik suggestion, and i agree (also *blush** for not really thinking about it)
[19:47] <sakrecoer> i guess at some point i decided that i had to make an arbitrary choice to get things moving again, ...or something :D
[19:48] <krytarik> sakrecoer: Yes, the first one kind of sticks out in relation to the other ones in the feature tour at least.  And regarding the latter ones, I'm particularly looking at the brightness of those.
[19:48] <sakrecoer> in my sketch i had mixed it with geirdals "first image" though..
[19:49] <sakrecoer> specifically this one: http://geirdal.is/images/studio/studio_07.png iirc
[19:50] <sakrecoer> so that it would match geirdal s way of mixing foto with digital deliciousness
[19:50] <sakrecoer> yes, it was that one: http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/render.png
[19:51] <sakrecoer> although, not covering as much as geirdall does... perhaps we can develop this? i'm open for suggestions and trials :) but i want to see the results together with you guys
[19:51] <sakrecoer> that is, we can scrap my photos, i don't mind living the mandala school of thoughts :D
[19:53] <sakrecoer> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_mandala#Ritual_destruction
[19:56] <autumna> *walks in
[19:57]  * autumna thinks
[19:58] <autumna> I think there are 2 issues here to address I am not sure how to address one of them. 
[20:00] <sakrecoer> shoot for the one you know how to adress :)
[20:00] <autumna> 1) feature tour/discover vs support vs news is too separate from each other as design. it is one thing for front page to be different, but it is strange for a sub page to be different. It makes the site look like we are midway an update to the site, with some pages left in old format, some in new
[20:00] <autumna> that is the question I don't know how to address (yet!)
[20:00] <sakrecoer> images ;)
[20:00] <autumna> 2) front page, obviously needs more work. and among other things, the first image while looking great is not fantastic for readability as things stand. (plus with the logo etc its too many layers)
[20:01] <sakrecoer> how about the feature tour IS the frontpage?
[20:01] <sakrecoer> it would fit the scenarios in the wiki...
[20:01] <autumna> well the short version of the feature tour IS the front page
[20:01] <autumna> I kind of would hate to not have those software details
[20:01] <autumna> in the main site
[20:01] <sakrecoer> that is redundant, i thought it was temporary lazyness :D
[20:01] <autumna> but that's my personal opinion
[20:02] <sakrecoer> what is "the main site" ?
[20:02] <autumna> we could remove the formatting on the "discover" section, and keep it on the front page only?
[20:02] <autumna> main site: ubuntustudio.org
[20:02] <autumna> rather than the wiki
[20:03] <sakrecoer> yes, we should keep the software details on the site, for sure
[20:03] <sakrecoer> we could remove the "discover" section all together, and have all its content moved tp the frontpage...
[20:03] <autumna> we CAN keep the software details on front page. It does make the front page a big of a wall of text, but I mean... its not absolutely terrible
[20:03] <autumna> hahah
[20:03] <autumna> parallel typing
[20:03] <autumna> ;)
[20:05] <sakrecoer> i think its ok to have a long frontpage...
[20:05] <autumna> sakrecoer: one thing we would probably need if all is in one page
[20:05] <autumna> is one more background image
[20:05] <autumna> so it would be: Welcome and download
[20:05] <sakrecoer> good point!
[20:05] <autumna> About: what is ubuntustudio (basically the first blurb on discover)
[20:05] <autumna> then the sections
[20:06] <autumna> krytarik feel free to add in opinions
[20:07] <autumna> and geirdal and anybody else as well
[20:07] <krytarik> autumna: Yeah, I do follow you there.
[20:07] <sakrecoer> i think an "about" page becomes irrelevant id there is a feature tour, and i think a feature tour should be front-pgae :D
[20:07] <autumna> the main reason I split was lack of extra background image, and too long, I have no issues merging 2 together
[20:07] <sakrecoer> i don't see any "about" page atm...
[20:08] <autumna> there is 'discover"
[20:08] <sakrecoer> or you mean, you split frontpage and feature tour?
[20:08] <autumna> and about is the section
[20:08] <autumna> not the page
[20:08] <autumna> first row: welcome, download etc
[20:08] <autumna> underneath it with a second image: What is ubuntu studio, the blurb that currently sits on the discover page/feature tour
[20:09] <autumna> then 3rd 4th 5th rows, audio, graphics, video
[20:09] <autumna> ok 
[20:09] <autumna> let me just merge the stuff into one big happy group
[20:09] <autumna> and hope that the plugin doesn't die on me
[20:09] <autumna> ;D
[20:09] <sakrecoer> \o/
[20:11] <sakrecoer> hmm... i havenÃ¤t looked enough at the front page... i thought it was far from done..
[20:11] <sakrecoer> now that i do, isee what you ment before...
[20:12] <sakrecoer> what if the short version of the workflow desciptions had a link "readmore" like the posts in top of frontpage, linking to the "discover-page" with an ID-anchor...
[20:12] <autumna> well that was my original plan
[20:13] <sakrecoer> so if you clikc on read more in graphics, you get to /feature-tour#graphics
[20:13] <sakrecoer> ok ok.. sorry :D
[20:13] <sakrecoer> hehe
[20:13] <autumna> ;)
[20:13] <autumna> which is why the front page has its short blurbs
[20:13] <sakrecoer> was staring myself blind on the discover page :D
[20:13] <autumna> but I want to try the one page approach
[20:13] <autumna> because it might eventually solve our problems
[20:14] <sakrecoer> ok :)
[20:14] <autumna> + it is a more complete looking page, so less work for us, AND well give me 5 minutes to create a new version of the home page that is merged
[20:14] <autumna> :P
[20:23] <autumna> *sighs* I really picked the wrong week to install development version of gimp
[20:25]  * autumna totally switches to krita
[20:27]  * sakrecoer zaps back to website channel on autumnaTV :D
[21:08] <autumna> sakrecoer, krytarik http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/home-alternate/
[21:10] <autumna> I think this actually works better. pretty much only thing missing in this case is a) not sure what the links are supposed to be b) not sure if we want to make a custom button style, -
[21:10] <autumna>  c) we might or might not need something on background of the first area. geirdal's image could be a solution there, or we could go crazy and put a background video *chuckles* whatever it is I would argue needs to be dark, and low contrast through so that it doesn't compete with the text there. leaving it blank is of course an option
[21:11] <autumna> (I'd say a gradient of geirdal's image darkened, could work well there, but that's my opinion)
[21:13] <geirdal> ok I will work on it autumna 
[21:14] <autumna> oh awesome!!!
[21:14] <geirdal> ;)
[21:14] <autumna> geirdal what software do you use? krita or gimp?
[21:14] <geirdal> krita
[21:14] <sakrecoer> \o/
[21:15] <autumna> ok I'll upload to WP, the krita layered kra I created. It has sakrecoer's transparency gradient built in as a clipping mask
[21:15] <sakrecoer> i vote for a gradient on http://geirdal.is/images/studio/studio_07.png
[21:15] <sakrecoer> (without the icons)
[21:15] <geirdal> ofcourse
[21:16] <sakrecoer> background video would be AWESOMEMATIC!... just... long to produce...
[21:17] <geirdal> I like this one best http://geirdal.is/images/studio/studio_06.png
[21:17] <autumna> well one good thing about this occasionally buggy plugin is that we are not locked in to the design of the feature tour, its images etc
[21:17] <geirdal> withgout the icons
[21:17] <autumna> we can swap them as the site grows
[21:18] <autumna> geirdal if you could lower the saturation and contrast a bit I think that would work good. 
[21:18] <autumna> great even.
[21:18] <geirdal> ok
[21:19] <sakrecoer> geirdal: that one is beautyfull too, but i find more aggresive somehow
[21:19] <autumna> sakrecoer where did you want us to upload the originals again?
[21:19]  * autumna forgot 
[21:19] <sakrecoer> but yeah, if you tone it down like autumna says, that would maybe work better, lets try :)
[21:19] <sakrecoer> i haven't quite sorted that out... but i thought of a "content" folder in the ubuntustudio-website git branch...
[21:20] <sakrecoer> to put raw text from guest bloggers, feature tour, iamges etc..
[21:20] <autumna> ok how do I upload to that thing?
[21:20] <autumna> and url? :D
[21:20] <geirdal> hehe
[21:20]  * autumna is beyond lost *embarassed*
[21:22] <sakrecoer> autumna: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-website/ubuntustudio-website/+git/trunk
[21:23] <autumna> well... one way to sort this out...
[21:29] <zequence> sakrecoer: You should probably start a new branch for that. The git branch is for the website theme only
[21:31] <sakrecoer> zequence: ok, noted :)
[21:34] <autumna> zequence if you are around, could you remind me how to add username to the command?
[21:34] <autumna> I seem to have misplaced my notes, from the last time you explained :/
[21:37] <autumna> geirdal: in mean time, you can download the template from ubuntustudio.zequence.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/headertemplate.kra