| === tsimonq2alt is now known as tsimonq2 | ||
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:30 |
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| acheronuk | Morning :D | 07:50 |
| yofel | clivejo, acheronuk: both patching qtchoose or backporting qt4-x11 should do the job, as the change is mostly just internal. So either way is fine | 08:00 |
| acheronuk | yofel: well, due to a slight miscommunication yesterday, MirĪ½'s qt4-x11 already got copied across, and looks like LP built all of plasma ok. | 08:02 |
| acheronuk | yet to test it in any Xenial VM or machine yet though... | 08:03 |
| yofel | qt4 would only affect the couply remaining qt4 apps, so there's rather little regression potential here | 08:03 |
| yofel | *couple | 08:04 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: I would guess also need to re-upload pyqt5 5.5.1 for a no change rebuild against Qt 5.6 as before | 08:16 |
| acheronuk | as was done here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=pyqt5&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=xenial | 08:17 |
| === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson | ||
| acheronuk | clivejo et al: plasma staging upgrade on xenial looks about as expected without pyqt5 rebuild http://paste.ubuntu.com/22797149/ | 12:26 |
| acheronuk | plasma-discover : Depends: packagekit (>= 1.0) | 12:34 |
| acheronuk | not going to be satisfiable in xenial ^^^^ so not sure on that one | 12:35 |
| clivejo | I uploaded pyqt5, has it not publsihed yet? | 12:41 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: I hadn't looked. presumably not | 12:41 |
| * clivejo rolls eyes | 12:42 | |
| acheronuk | ummm. it needs a no change rebuild of pyqt5 5.5, not a v5.6 | 12:43 |
| acheronuk | we had that before I think, as 5.6 needs too new python-sip | 12:44 |
| clivejo | ah yes | 12:48 |
| clivejo | and it wouldnt let me upload a lower version last time too | 12:48 |
| * clivejo hates LP | 12:48 | |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:49 |
| clivejo | Timeout error | 12:50 |
| clivejo | Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. | 12:50 |
| * clivejo wonders if we should move it to landing | 12:53 | |
| clivejo | and upload pyqt 5.5 to there | 12:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> 0/ Hello | 12:54 |
| clivejo | Hi Rick | 12:54 |
| clivejo | thats a very big head you got today | 12:54 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> O.o | 12:54 |
| clivejo | o/ compared to 0/ | 12:55 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> Ah I see | 12:55 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> It's not that my head is big, its that my arms are short | 12:55 |
| clivejo | LOL | 12:56 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: it did let me upload it last time. just needed to give it long enough for the launchpad janitor to remove properly the old higher version | 13:05 |
| acheronuk | probably need to wait ~ 1hr after deletion | 13:06 |
| yofel | the question about discover is really "do we want to be compatible with ubuntu desktop" - which is not something I personally care about at least | 13:21 |
| yofel | because if we don't care about that, we could try backporting packagekit | 13:21 |
| yofel | otherwise it means xenial is stuck with discover 5.6 | 13:22 |
| BluesKaj | muon still works ..prefer that anyway, it shows all packages in a search whereas discover omits quite a few ..that's been my experience | 13:24 |
| acheronuk | I'm not keen on software centres in the first place, and to be blunt discover is damn poor effort on one compared to the already not very great competition. | 13:32 |
| === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ | ||
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> /me has internet finally | 13:37 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 14:58 |
| tsimonq2 | how are you all today? | 14:58 |
| * genii makes another pot of coffee and passes the mugs around | 15:06 | |
| tsimonq2 | \o/ | 15:07 |
| * yofel sips | 15:07 | |
| yofel | thanks | 15:08 |
| tsimonq2 | ditto | 15:09 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| clivejo | when did the Kubuntu installer get so greedy? | 16:20 |
| tsimonq2 | when it started providing a graphical way to install things | 16:20 |
| * tsimonq2 runs | 16:20 | |
| clivejo | wont run in 1GB of RAM | 16:22 |
| acheronuk | wow. for a fairly small source package, pyqt5 takes ages to build! | 16:22 |
| clivejo | LP on go slow mode? | 16:23 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: nope. just looked at the previous builds of it, and seems they took 30-40 mins as well | 16:24 |
| clivejo | ha, you are right | 16:25 |
| clivejo | 8GB Hard disk isnt big enough for it! | 16:25 |
| genii | That means I won't be able to install it anymore on my Acer D260 | 16:25 |
| genii | ( if it needs more than a gig ) | 16:25 |
| clivejo | gave it 15Gb of HDD and installing now | 16:26 |
| clivejo | Thats mental | 16:26 |
| acheronuk | The virtualbox defaults are useless for kubuntu it seems | 16:29 |
| tsimonq2 | ...which is why I use virt-manager :P | 16:30 |
| clivejo | you do everything different! | 16:30 |
| clivejo | I really dont have the resources to do testing on Xenial :( | 16:31 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: because at one point I did use graphical software updaters/installers, VirtualBox, and even pbuilder, but the solutions I use now work a LOT better and are 10x more flexible | 16:31 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: what are you doing later? | 16:32 |
| clivejo | like 2hours? | 16:33 |
| tsimonq2 | well I was just about to go make myself some food, so unless dad or dad's GF wants to do something, I'll be around to do whatever | 16:33 |
| clivejo | Im hoping to get together with acheronuk and backport apps | 16:34 |
| clivejo | fancy sitting in? | 16:35 |
| tsimonq2 | oh shoot, I have to return a book to my former school (I'm going from middle to high school and it's an $80 fee if I don't return it by Aug 22) | 16:35 |
| tsimonq2 | but it's not too far | 16:35 |
| clivejo | we'll probably go on BBB as its lot easier to communicate on there | 16:36 |
| clivejo | even though it does feel a bit odd talking to myself | 16:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Router reboot :( | 16:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> But yeah I'm in | 16:36 |
| clivejo | and reading the replies on a terminal | 16:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I hate this route | 16:37 |
| acheronuk | ok. back later | 16:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Nbu1VFYG/file_90.jpg | 16:48 |
| tsimonq2 | I need a wireless card baaaaaaaaaad | 16:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/9YJsYuEC/file_92.jpg | 16:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> I don't think this is mini PCIe... :/ | 16:57 |
| mparillo | clivejo: The YY installer quits / crashes and burns if you only have 1GB of RAM? I used to get warnings, but now it cannot run? | 16:59 |
| blaze | oh my | 17:06 |
| clivejo | mparillo: I dont know, Im trying to install 16.04.1 | 17:51 |
| * clivejo waits while plasma 5.7.2 downloads | 18:23 | |
| clivejo | exit | 18:23 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I think simon was talking about it | 18:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Yofel knows the most I think clivejo | 18:28 |
| yofel | about what? | 18:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> The installer slideshow | 18:28 |
| clivejo | slideshow in the installer | 18:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I know its Python issue | 18:29 |
| mparillo | Thanks clivejo. I do know I did install 16.04 on a 1GB netbook, but I got plenty of warnings about my filesystem (stored in RAM) being almost full. Maybe 16.04.1 just went over the edge. | 18:29 |
| yofel | pyqt4 in yakkety has no qtwebkit, so our slideshow cannot work. Needs to be replaced by something that doesn't need webkit, or the UI ported to qt5 | 18:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> We could use what soee was working on for after it is installed | 18:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Or look at what the other flavors are doing | 18:30 |
| yofel | yes, but we still need to show *something* while it's installing - even if just a static image | 18:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Could we load qml in it? | 18:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> You could make a slideshow with it | 18:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Someone did it at akadamy | 18:31 |
| yofel | maybe, this is qt4 remember, so I think you'll just have qtquick 1.0 | 18:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Its in qt4? | 18:32 |
| yofel | it's pyqt4 | 18:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm | 18:32 |
| yofel | that's the whole problem :P | 18:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> We need to do something quick as the freeze is coming fast | 18:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Then fix next release | 18:33 |
| clivejo | ok well, I just upgrades a clean 16.04.1 install to Plasma 5.7.2 with no issues | 18:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Where is our installer? In ubiquity? | 18:34 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> \o/ clivejo | 18:34 |
| clivejo | I think this could go to landing for testing | 18:34 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: qtcurve needs a rebuild (kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-5-1) | 18:35 |
| yofel | ubiquity is the installer, the kde UI is inside the same repository. If we split that out I might even take a look at it | 18:35 |
| yofel | if you put it in landing I'll try to get the transition list sorted for qt and plasma | 18:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Split from ubiquity? | 18:36 |
| yofel | yes, because I refuse to do large changes to code under canonical CLA | 18:36 |
| clivejo | qtcurve mustnt be installed by default? | 18:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Since you lose access to it or something? | 18:36 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: might uploading that to staging-plasma PPA? | 18:37 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: kde-spectacle : Depends: libkf5screen6 (>= 5.1.1) but it is not going to be installed. as we now have libkf5screen7 | 18:37 |
| acheronuk | but new apps will sort that? | 18:37 |
| clivejo | yes | 18:37 |
| clivejo | thats why I want to get apps done tonight | 18:37 |
| yofel | since they can theoretically make it proprietary without my consent. If they want me to attribute code under such conditions they'll have to pay me | 18:37 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: we uploaded a qtcurve rebuild on the last backport try I think? so yes, can repeat | 18:38 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: thanks | 18:38 |
| acheronuk | ditto obviously with the language packs | 18:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> yofel I'll look at it when I get home | 18:40 |
| clivejo | acheronuk tsimonq2: want to make a start on apps? | 18:40 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: whenever you like | 18:40 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: pizza is almost done, gimme 10 mins | 18:40 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: Ill hop on BBB and we can get setup? | 18:41 |
| * yofel off for the evening | 18:41 | |
| acheronuk | clivejo: I'm there | 18:42 |
| clivejo | someones keen :) | 18:42 |
| acheronuk | want to see if the 'browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash' for Firefox does anything to help with the sound issues | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj-pi | ok some websites are suggeesting to download the latest adobe flash | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj-pi | yet those sites are usually the most guilty of not upgrading their flash versions | 18:47 |
| blaze | wasn't flash development dropped by adobe? | 19:01 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It was | 19:01 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Still being used | 19:01 |
| * soee wrr... | 19:38 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/DFNO5vbU/file_96.jpg | 19:39 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: ^ | 19:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Webcam? | 19:40 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun we on BBB | 19:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Oh ok | 19:56 |
| genii | I'm finding it hard to mentally make BBB mean Big Blue Button when all the rest of my life before that it always meant Better Business Bureau | 19:59 |
| === superfly is now known as who_da_fly | ||
| === who_da_fly is now known as superfly | ||
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: https://github.com/jimeh/git-aware-prompt | 20:51 |
| * acheronuk now has git aware prompt :D | 22:27 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> That's pretty cool | 22:27 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I'll get it when I get home | 22:27 |
| clivejo | BBB hangout sessions are cool, get to learn how other people do stuff! | 22:35 |
| acheronuk | That was very good. :D | 22:36 |
| clivejo | I was getting tired that last hour | 22:36 |
| acheronuk | I also now know that the audio in BBB with that pepper flash plugin wrapper works ok, so can screen share and hear in FF | 22:37 |
| acheronuk | no messing about with 2 browsers | 22:37 |
| clivejo | must look into downloading the lastest FF | 22:38 |
| acheronuk | I'm tired now, so won't be on here much longer tonight | 22:38 |
| clivejo | I was hoping those would have published before I came back | 22:39 |
| acheronuk | if just ECM would, could push some things on | 22:39 |
| clivejo | still, I think we covered a good amount this evening | 22:41 |
| clivejo | well worth it | 22:42 |
| acheronuk | that git prompt is great. so many times I've stopped before committing/pushing and wondered if I really did all that in the right branch | 22:42 |
| acheronuk | but now a glance tells me | 22:42 |
| acheronuk | yes, and it helps going through it with other people like that. | 22:43 |
| clivejo | oooooo | 22:46 |
| clivejo | just installed it# | 22:46 |
| clivejo | thats pretty | 22:46 |
| acheronuk | there are some seriously styled prompt scripts (think ovidiu has one?), but that git one is practical | 22:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> He has the fish one or something | 22:49 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun: yeah, I saw that on a screen share at some point | 23:05 |
| tsimonq2 | :D acheronuk | 23:10 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo, acheronuk: I swear, after installing it, I would go nuts without it | 23:11 |
| tsimonq2 | yofel: since Wily is EOL, I would suggest removing the Wily packages from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to save space | 23:17 |
| ahoneybun | mm does not work for me | 23:21 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: what doesn't? | 23:21 |
| ahoneybun | that git thing | 23:21 |
| ahoneybun | did all the steps | 23:21 |
| tsimonq2 | what isn't working? | 23:21 |
| clivejo | follow the instructions? | 23:21 |
| tsimonq2 | did you close your terminal and open a new one? | 23:21 |
| ahoneybun | the change | 23:21 |
| ahoneybun | nope | 23:21 |
| tsimonq2 | you need to do that ahoneybun | 23:21 |
| ahoneybun | still nothing | 23:22 |
| clivejo | or refresh bash | 23:22 |
| clivejo | source ~/.bashrc | 23:22 |
| tsimonq2 | oh I know | 23:22 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: are you in a git repo? | 23:22 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 23:22 |
| ahoneybun | athoneycutt@athoneycutt-A75MH:~/Projects/kubuntu-manual$ | 23:22 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: could you run: cat ~/.bashrc | pastebinit | 23:23 |
| ahoneybun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/22859565/ | 23:24 |
| ahoneybun | sweet tool | 23:24 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: you should follow along on one of our BBB sessions | 23:25 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: where did you put the appropriate lines needed for this? | 23:25 |
| clivejo | lots to be learned | 23:25 |
| tsimonq2 | +1 clivejo | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: I was not home | 23:25 |
| tsimonq2 | oh | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | I was on the road to get home | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | been gone since tues afternoon | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | has no phone service over night | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: in .bashrc | 23:26 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: yes | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | at the top | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | like it said | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | cloned it in ~/.bash | 23:26 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: you lose | 23:26 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: you forgot the PS1 var | 23:27 |
| * ahoneybun does not care | 23:27 | |
| ahoneybun | nope | 23:27 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah you did | 23:27 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: add the following on line 3: export PS1="\${debian_chroot:+(\$debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\] \[$txtcyn\]\$git_branch\[$txtred\]\$git_dirty\[$txtrst\]\$ " | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | yea I see it | 23:28 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: so? | 23:30 |
| ahoneybun | so? | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | athoneycutt@athoneycutt-A75MH:~/Projects/kubuntu-manual (master)*$ | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | \o/ | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | you did it! | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo, ahoneybun, acheronuk: so, there's the branch, but the * means that it's dirty. It will also indicate when detached. | 23:32 |
| tsimonq2 | really nice | 23:32 |
| clivejo | oh nice | 23:32 |
| clivejo | havent seen that on mine yet | 23:32 |
| acheronuk | :D | 23:33 |
| tsimonq2 | been using this for a few months | 23:33 |
| tsimonq2 | it's a godsend | 23:33 |
| ahoneybun | mm ImportError: No module named 'sphinx_bootstrap_theme' | 23:36 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: see your dependencies in the README | 23:37 |
| ahoneybun | I did | 23:37 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: the ones you stole from me :D | 23:37 |
| tsimonq2 | ? | 23:37 |
| ahoneybun | Successfully installed setuptools-20.10.1 sphinx-bootstrap-theme | 23:37 |
| tsimonq2 | :/ weird | 23:37 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk, clivejo: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_xenial.html :D | 23:40 |
| clivejo | we are out of space in the PPA | 23:42 |
| tsimonq2 | D: | 23:42 |
| clivejo | and LP is taking forever to delete packages to make room | 23:42 |
| clivejo | its 0:42am so we are calling it a day! | 23:42 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ clivejo | 23:42 |
| clivejo | thanks to acheronuk and tsimonq2 for all your help tonight | 23:43 |
| ahoneybun | weird..,. | 23:43 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: no problem. it's been very helpful all round :) | 23:43 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ clivejo | 23:44 |
| acheronuk | thank you | 23:44 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: no problem, thank *you* :) | 23:44 |
| clivejo | indeed, Ive got a new prompt | 23:44 |
| tsimonq2 | thanks to you too acheronuk :) | 23:44 |
| acheronuk | thanks all round then :P | 23:45 |
| clivejo | LOL | 23:45 |
| acheronuk | And with that, I think it's goodnight | 23:45 |
| tsimonq2 | hehehehehe | 23:45 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 23:45 |
| acheronuk | I shall read back about the prompt features tomorrow | 23:45 |
| ahoneybun | so confuses | 23:46 |
| ahoneybun | *confused | 23:46 |
| ahoneybun | holy crap | 23:47 |
| ahoneybun | my pc is more then 5 years old? | 23:47 |
| clivejo | mine is 6! | 23:48 |
| ahoneybun | need an upgrade | 23:48 |
| ahoneybun | I want to use my laptop as my main machine | 23:48 |
| ahoneybun | since it is newer | 23:48 |
| tsimonq2 | I have a niiiiiiiice system and it only cost $400 max | 23:49 |
| tsimonq2 | (I got the case and the HDD free) | 23:49 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: if you wanted something to do - https://www.digikam.org/node/756 | 23:57 |
| clivejo | digikam 5.1.0 needs packaged | 23:58 |
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