=== tsimonq2alt is now known as tsimonq2 [07:30] Good morning. [07:50] Morning :D [08:00] clivejo, acheronuk: both patching qtchoose or backporting qt4-x11 should do the job, as the change is mostly just internal. So either way is fine [08:02] yofel: well, due to a slight miscommunication yesterday, Mirν's qt4-x11 already got copied across, and looks like LP built all of plasma ok. [08:03] yet to test it in any Xenial VM or machine yet though... [08:03] qt4 would only affect the couply remaining qt4 apps, so there's rather little regression potential here [08:04] *couple [08:16] clivejo: I would guess also need to re-upload pyqt5 5.5.1 for a no change rebuild against Qt 5.6 as before [08:17] as was done here https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=pyqt5&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=xenial === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [12:26] clivejo et al: plasma staging upgrade on xenial looks about as expected without pyqt5 rebuild http://paste.ubuntu.com/22797149/ [12:34] plasma-discover : Depends: packagekit (>= 1.0) [12:35] not going to be satisfiable in xenial ^^^^ so not sure on that one [12:41] I uploaded pyqt5, has it not publsihed yet? [12:41] clivejo: I hadn't looked. presumably not [12:42] * clivejo rolls eyes [12:43] ummm. it needs a no change rebuild of pyqt5 5.5, not a v5.6 [12:44] we had that before I think, as 5.6 needs too new python-sip [12:48] ah yes [12:48] and it wouldnt let me upload a lower version last time too [12:48] * clivejo hates LP [12:49] Hiyas all [12:50] Timeout error [12:50] Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. [12:53] * clivejo wonders if we should move it to landing [12:53] and upload pyqt 5.5 to there [12:54] 0/ Hello [12:54] Hi Rick [12:54] thats a very big head you got today [12:54] O.o [12:55] o/ compared to 0/ [12:55] Ah I see [12:55] It's not that my head is big, its that my arms are short [12:56] LOL [13:05] clivejo: it did let me upload it last time. just needed to give it long enough for the launchpad janitor to remove properly the old higher version [13:06] probably need to wait ~ 1hr after deletion [13:21] the question about discover is really "do we want to be compatible with ubuntu desktop" - which is not something I personally care about at least [13:21] because if we don't care about that, we could try backporting packagekit [13:22] otherwise it means xenial is stuck with discover 5.6 [13:24] muon still works ..prefer that anyway, it shows all packages in a search whereas discover omits quite a few ..that's been my experience [13:32] I'm not keen on software centres in the first place, and to be blunt discover is damn poor effort on one compared to the already not very great competition. === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ [13:37] /me has internet finally [14:58] o/ [14:58] how are you all today? [15:06] * genii makes another pot of coffee and passes the mugs around [15:07] \o/ [15:07] * yofel sips [15:08] thanks [15:09] ditto === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [16:20] when did the Kubuntu installer get so greedy? [16:20] when it started providing a graphical way to install things [16:20] * tsimonq2 runs [16:22] wont run in 1GB of RAM [16:22] wow. for a fairly small source package, pyqt5 takes ages to build! [16:23] LP on go slow mode? [16:24] clivejo: nope. just looked at the previous builds of it, and seems they took 30-40 mins as well [16:25] ha, you are right [16:25] 8GB Hard disk isnt big enough for it! [16:25] That means I won't be able to install it anymore on my Acer D260 [16:25] ( if it needs more than a gig ) [16:26] gave it 15Gb of HDD and installing now [16:26] Thats mental [16:29] The virtualbox defaults are useless for kubuntu it seems [16:30] ...which is why I use virt-manager :P [16:30] you do everything different! [16:31] I really dont have the resources to do testing on Xenial :( [16:31] clivejo: because at one point I did use graphical software updaters/installers, VirtualBox, and even pbuilder, but the solutions I use now work a LOT better and are 10x more flexible [16:32] tsimonq2: what are you doing later? [16:33] like 2hours? [16:33] well I was just about to go make myself some food, so unless dad or dad's GF wants to do something, I'll be around to do whatever [16:34] Im hoping to get together with acheronuk and backport apps [16:35] fancy sitting in? [16:35] oh shoot, I have to return a book to my former school (I'm going from middle to high school and it's an $80 fee if I don't return it by Aug 22) [16:35] but it's not too far [16:36] we'll probably go on BBB as its lot easier to communicate on there [16:36] even though it does feel a bit odd talking to myself [16:36] Router reboot :( [16:36] But yeah I'm in [16:37] and reading the replies on a terminal [16:37] I hate this route [16:40] ok. back later [16:48] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Nbu1VFYG/file_90.jpg [16:48] I need a wireless card baaaaaaaaaad [16:57] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/9YJsYuEC/file_92.jpg [16:57] I don't think this is mini PCIe... :/ [16:59] clivejo: The YY installer quits / crashes and burns if you only have 1GB of RAM? I used to get warnings, but now it cannot run? [17:06] oh my [17:51] mparillo: I dont know, Im trying to install 16.04.1 [18:23] * clivejo waits while plasma 5.7.2 downloads [18:23] exit [18:27] I think simon was talking about it [18:28] Yofel knows the most I think clivejo [18:28] about what? [18:28] The installer slideshow [18:28] slideshow in the installer [18:29] I know its Python issue [18:29] Thanks clivejo. I do know I did install 16.04 on a 1GB netbook, but I got plenty of warnings about my filesystem (stored in RAM) being almost full. Maybe 16.04.1 just went over the edge. [18:29] pyqt4 in yakkety has no qtwebkit, so our slideshow cannot work. Needs to be replaced by something that doesn't need webkit, or the UI ported to qt5 [18:30] We could use what soee was working on for after it is installed [18:30] Or look at what the other flavors are doing [18:30] yes, but we still need to show *something* while it's installing - even if just a static image [18:31] Could we load qml in it? [18:31] You could make a slideshow with it [18:31] Someone did it at akadamy [18:31] maybe, this is qt4 remember, so I think you'll just have qtquick 1.0 [18:32] Its in qt4? [18:32] it's pyqt4 [18:32] Mm [18:32] that's the whole problem :P [18:32] We need to do something quick as the freeze is coming fast [18:33] Then fix next release [18:33] ok well, I just upgrades a clean 16.04.1 install to Plasma 5.7.2 with no issues [18:34] Where is our installer? In ubiquity? [18:34] \o/ clivejo [18:34] I think this could go to landing for testing [18:35] clivejo: qtcurve needs a rebuild (kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-5-1) [18:35] ubiquity is the installer, the kde UI is inside the same repository. If we split that out I might even take a look at it [18:35] if you put it in landing I'll try to get the transition list sorted for qt and plasma [18:36] Split from ubiquity? [18:36] yes, because I refuse to do large changes to code under canonical CLA [18:36] qtcurve mustnt be installed by default? [18:36] Since you lose access to it or something? [18:37] acheronuk: might uploading that to staging-plasma PPA? [18:37] clivejo: kde-spectacle : Depends: libkf5screen6 (>= 5.1.1) but it is not going to be installed. as we now have libkf5screen7 [18:37] but new apps will sort that? [18:37] yes [18:37] thats why I want to get apps done tonight [18:37] since they can theoretically make it proprietary without my consent. If they want me to attribute code under such conditions they'll have to pay me [18:38] clivejo: we uploaded a qtcurve rebuild on the last backport try I think? so yes, can repeat [18:38] acheronuk: thanks [18:39] ditto obviously with the language packs [18:40] yofel I'll look at it when I get home [18:40] acheronuk tsimonq2: want to make a start on apps? [18:40] clivejo: whenever you like [18:40] clivejo: pizza is almost done, gimme 10 mins [18:41] acheronuk: Ill hop on BBB and we can get setup? [18:41] * yofel off for the evening [18:42] clivejo: I'm there [18:42] someones keen :) [18:43] want to see if the 'browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash' for Firefox does anything to help with the sound issues [18:45] ok some websites are suggeesting to download the latest adobe flash [18:47] yet those sites are usually the most guilty of not upgrading their flash versions [19:01] wasn't flash development dropped by adobe? [19:01] It was [19:01] Still being used [19:38] * soee wrr... [19:39] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/DFNO5vbU/file_96.jpg [19:39] clivejo: ^ [19:40] Webcam? [19:56] ahoneybun we on BBB [19:56] Oh ok [19:59] I'm finding it hard to mentally make BBB mean Big Blue Button when all the rest of my life before that it always meant Better Business Bureau === superfly is now known as who_da_fly === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [20:51] clivejo: https://github.com/jimeh/git-aware-prompt [22:27] * acheronuk now has git aware prompt :D [22:27] That's pretty cool [22:27] I'll get it when I get home [22:35] BBB hangout sessions are cool, get to learn how other people do stuff! [22:36] That was very good. :D [22:36] I was getting tired that last hour [22:37] I also now know that the audio in BBB with that pepper flash plugin wrapper works ok, so can screen share and hear in FF [22:37] no messing about with 2 browsers [22:38] must look into downloading the lastest FF [22:38] I'm tired now, so won't be on here much longer tonight [22:39] I was hoping those would have published before I came back [22:39] if just ECM would, could push some things on [22:41] still, I think we covered a good amount this evening [22:42] well worth it [22:42] that git prompt is great. so many times I've stopped before committing/pushing and wondered if I really did all that in the right branch [22:42] but now a glance tells me [22:43] yes, and it helps going through it with other people like that. [22:46] oooooo [22:46] just installed it# [22:46] thats pretty [22:48] there are some seriously styled prompt scripts (think ovidiu has one?), but that git one is practical [22:49] He has the fish one or something [23:05] ahoneybun: yeah, I saw that on a screen share at some point [23:10] :D acheronuk [23:11] clivejo, acheronuk: I swear, after installing it, I would go nuts without it [23:17] yofel: since Wily is EOL, I would suggest removing the Wily packages from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to save space [23:21] mm does not work for me [23:21] ahoneybun: what doesn't? [23:21] that git thing [23:21] did all the steps [23:21] what isn't working? [23:21] follow the instructions? [23:21] did you close your terminal and open a new one? [23:21] the change [23:21] nope [23:21] you need to do that ahoneybun [23:22] still nothing [23:22] or refresh bash [23:22] source ~/.bashrc [23:22] oh I know [23:22] ahoneybun: are you in a git repo? [23:22] yep [23:22] athoneycutt@athoneycutt-A75MH:~/Projects/kubuntu-manual$ [23:23] ahoneybun: could you run: cat ~/.bashrc | pastebinit [23:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/22859565/ [23:24] sweet tool [23:25] ahoneybun: you should follow along on one of our BBB sessions [23:25] ahoneybun: where did you put the appropriate lines needed for this? [23:25] lots to be learned [23:25] +1 clivejo [23:25] clivejo: I was not home [23:25] oh [23:25] I was on the road to get home [23:26] been gone since tues afternoon [23:26] has no phone service over night [23:26] tsimonq2: in .bashrc [23:26] ahoneybun: yes [23:26] at the top [23:26] like it said [23:26] cloned it in ~/.bash [23:26] ahoneybun: you lose [23:27] ahoneybun: you forgot the PS1 var [23:27] * ahoneybun does not care [23:27] nope [23:27] yeah you did [23:28] ahoneybun: add the following on line 3: export PS1="\${debian_chroot:+(\$debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\] \[$txtcyn\]\$git_branch\[$txtred\]\$git_dirty\[$txtrst\]\$ " [23:28] yea I see it [23:30] ahoneybun: so? [23:31] so? [23:31] athoneycutt@athoneycutt-A75MH:~/Projects/kubuntu-manual (master)*$ [23:31] \o/ [23:31] you did it! [23:32] clivejo, ahoneybun, acheronuk: so, there's the branch, but the * means that it's dirty. It will also indicate when detached. [23:32] really nice [23:32] oh nice [23:32] havent seen that on mine yet [23:33] :D [23:33] been using this for a few months [23:33] it's a godsend [23:36] mm ImportError: No module named 'sphinx_bootstrap_theme' [23:37] ahoneybun: see your dependencies in the README [23:37] I did [23:37] ahoneybun: the ones you stole from me :D [23:37] ? [23:37] Successfully installed setuptools-20.10.1 sphinx-bootstrap-theme [23:37] :/ weird [23:40] acheronuk, clivejo: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_xenial.html :D [23:42] we are out of space in the PPA [23:42] D: [23:42] and LP is taking forever to delete packages to make room [23:42] its 0:42am so we are calling it a day! [23:42] o/ clivejo [23:43] thanks to acheronuk and tsimonq2 for all your help tonight [23:43] weird..,. [23:43] clivejo: no problem. it's been very helpful all round :) [23:44] o/ clivejo [23:44] thank you [23:44] clivejo: no problem, thank *you* :) [23:44] indeed, Ive got a new prompt [23:44] thanks to you too acheronuk :) [23:45] thanks all round then :P [23:45] LOL [23:45] And with that, I think it's goodnight [23:45] hehehehehe [23:45] o/ [23:45] I shall read back about the prompt features tomorrow [23:46] so confuses [23:46] *confused [23:47] holy crap [23:47] my pc is more then 5 years old? [23:48] mine is 6! [23:48] need an upgrade [23:48] I want to use my laptop as my main machine [23:48] since it is newer [23:49] I have a niiiiiiiice system and it only cost $400 max [23:49] (I got the case and the HDD free) [23:57] tsimonq2: if you wanted something to do - https://www.digikam.org/node/756 [23:58] digikam 5.1.0 needs packaged