=== YankDownUnder is now known as YDU_away [04:11] y === nickgeoca is now known as linman [06:27] lordievader, are you here? [06:27] Morning btw :) [07:29] Good morning. === pavlushka is now known as Guest64002 === Guest64002 is now known as pavlushka === samet is now known as mjsamet === samet is now known as mjsamet [10:09] #drupal [10:19] hi - I have a really odd issue that's only recently started - its fairly annoying, [10:20] I am unable to print to any printer connected to a Cups server from any GTK applications [10:20] its fine from KDE and any QT app [10:20] > i've been getting by so far by printing to .pdf file in firefox then printing the .pdf from Okular [10:21] I can print if I connect directly to the printer, not via our local cups server (gtk apps only) [10:21] any ideas how to fix this annoying/odd bug? [10:23] i.e the print button in Firefox, Evolution is geyed out next to any printer connected to the cups server - i see the message 'Getting printer information failed' [10:23] so am unable to print from my main browser [10:24] Thunderbird however works [10:24] as does crome [10:24] chrome [10:24] firefox/evolution doesn't === adrien_ is now known as Guest35508 === Guest35508 is now known as dsealius [11:04] If I dual-boot (YY and XX), and I get kernel updates, is it possible that they change the default GRUB boot sequence? [11:39] mparillo: yes [11:39] using legacy and UEFI [11:39] easiest way if using uefi is to install rEFInd [11:43] TY yossarianuk. I am using legacy. [11:45] If I get too annoyed, in the past I have used https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer [12:49] Hiyas all === stefan__ is now known as AAron__ === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ === darth is now known as alsaher === z4ki is now known as zaki [14:10] I was trying to add dm-raid through LVM as a mirror raid using dm-mirror. For the root volume. Upon rebooting it could not assemble the array saying personality for raid 1 not found. It did find other personalities but apparently dm-mirror.ko was not loaded? [14:11] I ended up in the initrd rescue shell but modprobe gives no output as to what it's doing; ie. if you use a nonsense term if will still give no output. [14:11] so apparently the module is not getting loaded; I may have to add it to the initrd of course. But still. It is already in /lib/modules. The module is there. But the personality is not found. [14:12] I wonder what I need to do (in the rescue shell) to load the module and to get any output as to what modprobe is doing. [14:14] johns_, this could be a questio for #kde or ##linux [14:15] but note that the debian/ubuntu initrd system is debian/ubuntu specific... [14:15] I will go to ##linux though. Not #kde :P :). [14:22] I can't find whether adding a file to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules or something similar will automatically load it or whether I will need force_load in a hook file... [14:24] bbl [14:43] Hello, I'd like to share with you my experience with KDE neon [14:43] https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=133432&p=362045#p362045 [14:43] Sup everyone. [14:53] Hi @ KurousagiMK2 [14:56] hi need something? [15:09] I cannot send to ##linux..... [15:11] Hi BluesKaj-pi I initially thought the problem was because of a "bug" in the dmraid package but it doesn't really use dmraid. [15:18] well found the answer, raid1.ko is just not loaded in the initrd, even though raid456.ko is, for some reason. Thanks. [15:18] I was thinking I needed to look for dm-mirror but that is the old setup, not the new one. [15:19] dm-mirror *is* included but the newer LVM uses raid1 by default. [15:21] so I'm off rebooting again to the older Kubuntu install that doubles as safety valve :p. [15:25] Hello, how to suspend the computer to disk in kde5? [15:26] sudo echo disk > sys/power/state/ doesn't work as I don't have the permission === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === l0nGYear is now known as Guest42704 === Guest42704 is now known as l0nGYear_ === pavlushka is now known as Guest93771 === Guest93771 is now known as pavlushka [17:20] hi [17:34] #kubuntu-offtopic if you're looking for plain conversation ^^ Hello! === dilfridge is now known as centralservices === centralservices is now known as dilfridge === kubuntu is now known as Guest38285 [18:26] konbanwa [18:29] why are you all so dead? [18:30] kubuntu works fine for everyone so no one has any support questions. [18:30] understood [18:52] hello [18:58] irc.synirc.net -- #rpgmaker [18:58] I'm in here having a really indepth conversation [18:58] I'm being told to reward good employees macbooks for good work >.< [19:17] hello [19:18] i try to update my KUbuntu 14.04.3 LTS to KUbuntu 16.04.1 LTS [19:19] but when I execute sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE I get an error message: [19:19] NameError: name 'pyqtSlot' is not defined [19:19] at File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeFetcherKDE.py", line 172, in DistUpgradeFetcherKDE [19:20] how to I make it wor or at least track down the error? [19:26] kubuntu_16_wante why that long command,. a simple sudo do-release-upgrade should suffice, then a update and upgrade once the releas is fiished installing [19:26] finished even [19:27] this is what the GUI updater startes to execute. [19:27] startes -> states [19:28] don´t muck ubout with what the updater does [19:29] use one or the other, not some hybrid commands [19:32] when I start do-release-upgrade only the system does almost nothing... [19:34] check the update managerand set it to upgrade LTS only [19:35] it is set to upgrade LTS only [19:35] some days ago I already startet tzhe upgrade. [19:36] then the system does a lot but failed to finish [19:37] I repeated 'dpkg --configure -a' until it returned immediately [19:38] since then the system is telling me that a newr version is available but does nothing when I klick "do upgrade" [19:40] have you done a upgrade of your existing system, if not. do so [19:41] yes I did [19:42] remove any ppas from your sources.list or package manger [19:44] the upgrader claimed it had done this. [19:45] I just turned off "LTS only", waiting what happens now... [19:46] check the package manager ¨¨öther sources"anyway [19:46] 1 neues Paket wird installiert. 15 Pakete werden aktualisiert. [19:46] you will get 15.10 not 16.04 [19:47] much less than expected [19:47] and themn in turn i can upgrade to 16? [19:48] thatś the long method :-) [19:48] this would be ok as long as it worked... [19:49] hang on ...brb [19:53] system is still on 14 :o( [20:05] system is still on 14 :o( [20:06] run sudo apt full upgrade to see if any packages are upgraded or installed [20:07] system is rebooting. [20:07] also make sure you are using a source mirror that's stable [20:07] I just edited /etc/lsb-release [20:07] will see if that makes something usefull... [20:08] var.mount is always pulled in by systemd regardless of what you do. So it is not possible to put a /var line in fstab and have it not be used. [20:08] I wonder how to ensure that the noauto or nofail options are being honoured (making it an optional mount) but thus far it is not working. [20:09] lsb_ release just tells you which OS you're running, kubuntu_16_wante [20:09] invalid operation "full" [20:09] maybe I can just mask the entire service.... [20:10] kubuntu_16_wante, sorry full-upgrade [20:10] gotta try, brb. [20:10] I know, but I beleve my "broken" updae already installed the "16" packages but did not change the lsb-release file [20:11] this installe 2 packages (the flash player plugin [20:11] it's not hard to tell, 16 from 14 , check your login page if orange purple etc then it's 16.04 [20:12] you mean the background image? [20:13] also kubuntu_16_wante run plasmashell -v , if says 5.x.x the you're on 15.10 or 16.04 [20:14] kubuntu_16_wante, yes the background [20:14] plasmashell gives 5.5.5 [20:15] then I'd consider this done. [20:15] thanks so fahr. [20:15] nope didn't work, I will have to create my own fstab :p. [20:15] what does uname -a output? [20:15] kubuntu_16_wante,^ [20:16] 4.4.0-34-generic #ubuntu SMP... [20:16] now I have another problem ;o) [20:17] since the failed upgrade last week my KDM does not come up any more. [20:17] yeah, your on 16.04 , 14.04 uses the 4.2 kernel , I'm still on it [20:17] I learned, that I'd rather use gddm, but this does not work either: [20:18] it does not start after boot and when logging on it returnes to the login screen rather than openning a user session [20:18] kubuntu_16_wante, kdm is replaced by sddm, and you a re now the lucky receipent of an OS controlled by systemd as well [20:19] i cnged to lightdm but this lags some important features too. [20:20] first of all openning another user session from a users lock screen does not work. [20:21] the screen fickers and does not respont to or any other console/scheen change key stroke [20:22] kubuntu_16_wante, ok ctl+alt+F1-F6, thei takes you to a shell/vt/tty, login, then run sudo systectl enable sddm , then sudo sytemctl start sddm, then update and upgrade and reboot [20:22] so my main goal was to get KDM back or sddm working. [20:22] BluesKaj: You could always suggest to him to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" [20:22] sudo systemctl enable sddm [20:22] YankDownUnder, so can you :-) [20:23] if you think it will help [20:23] ok, I'll try this in that order... [20:23] BluesKaj: I could, yes, I very well could, but that would interrupt my coffee and smoke... [20:24] well you could have just as well suggested it to kubuntu_16_wante , instead of me [20:24] YankDownUnder, I wouldn't be offended like some [20:25] ceep calm! I think I get it... ,o) [20:25] Hehehe...what a lovely Wednesday - no one's having problems, it's a warm 13c, and everyone is happy! :) [20:26] well, it's 30C outside here, but it's a comfy 23C in our house [20:26] ok, I did sudo systectl enable sddm from my KDE seson and rebooted, got lightdm again... [20:27] BluesKaj: I'll trade you the 30c...easy done... [20:27] kubuntu_16_wante: Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm [20:28] kubuntu_16_wante, run sudo systemctl enable sddm , I corrected the mistake, but i guess you missed that [20:29] i used keyword compleetion... [20:29] "compleetion" - yersh...bad spelling that :) [20:30] after sudo sytemctl start sddm I have a black screen with a blinking cursor but mot responding at all. [20:31] kubuntu_16_wante: You stated that "lightdm" was still running, yes? If anything, you might want to make sure that it's NOT running before you start "sddm" - that's going to cause some strange issues... [20:31] ok, then I have "strange things" happening now. will reboot... [20:32] kubuntu_16_wante: Um...you shouldn't have to reboot, bro... [20:32] systemctl stop sddm did not work (via ssh) [20:33] system is back still showing lightdm [20:33] kubuntu_16_wante: Wait a tick - you're not even sitting in front of this machine? [20:34] btw sddm has replaced kdm , just checked, think the same goes for lightdm [20:34] Yeah it has - but isn't he running a borked version of 14.04? [20:35] no YankDownUnder he has Xenial installed , he just didn't realize it [20:36] YankDownUnder: i have 2 mashines... [20:36] Right oh. [20:36] plasma 5.5.5 [20:36] ystemd[1]: sddm.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=1 [20:36] systemd[1]: Failed to start Simple Desktop Display Manager. [20:37] systemd[1]: sddm.service: Triggering OnFailure= dependencies. [20:37] kubuntu_16_wante: Mate, check this out - do "service lightdm stop" - right? Once that's stopped, do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm => after that's all happy, THEN type either "service sddm restart" or "systemctl start sddm" => try "servicce" first, eh? [20:37] hoh , didyou run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ? kubuntu_16_wante [20:38] YankDownUnder [20:38] YankDownUnder [20:38] YankDownUnder [20:38] YankDownUnder [20:38] did that [20:38] lighytdm is probly not even installed at this point [20:38] (don't repeat like that, please. it sets off anti-spam alarms) [20:38] now systemctl start sddm? [20:39] kubuntu_16_wante: Try: sudo service sddm restart [20:39] BluesKaj [20:39] it is quite alive for not being installed... ;o) [20:40] looks good [20:40] kubuntu_16_wante, did you choose lightdm when you were upgrading at some point? [20:40] kubuntu_16_wante: We'll get rid of lightdm in a tick - have to get sddm working...it ain't rocket science [20:40] but I only see 3 of the 6 users [20:40] with KDM I had a vertical list. [20:40] can I have that back? [20:41] kubuntu_16_wante: You can change the sddm theme to something more friendly later - is it working now? [20:41] KDM won't be available, but apparently lightdm is , just checked again :-) [20:41] ok, I have sddm running but I cannot login :o( [20:42] "cannot login" is not very descriptive... [20:43] after type the (correct) password and pressing enter the screen gets dark for 2 seconds and then the login screen comes back. [20:43] ok ,he's in that no gpu driver or broken gpu driver loop [20:43] BluesKaj: Lovely that [20:43] BluesKaj: Like watching political news! [20:43] if the gpu driver has a problem why does loging work with lightdm? [20:44] kubuntu_16_wante, what gpu ? [20:44] YankDownUnder came up with the GPU thing [20:45] no, it was yourself... [20:46] What dialog is there - what did you do or what are you doing? [20:46] kubuntu_16_wante, that's a good question, but it's the same as why alive media like live cd shows a desktop, but not a proper install ...forgotten the expalnation [20:47] anyway, the only difference between a working ligin and a failing is the login service.. [20:47] when I change back to lightdm login will work again. [20:47] I'm guilty of the gpu , because I had that problem with xenail at first, but then I installed the nvidia 340 driver in the vt/tty shell and it worked [20:48] BTW GPU is VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 610] (rev a1) [20:48] kubuntu_16_wante: Are the drives installed for that on this system? [20:48] sure [20:49] nvidia 10076160 66 nvidia_modeset,nvidia_uvm [20:49] kubuntu_16_wante: And you just got that data from...where? [20:49] ~# lsmod | grep nvi [20:49] nvidia_uvm 696320 0 [20:49] nvidia_modeset 745472 3 [20:49] nvidia 10076160 66 nvidia_modeset,nvidia_uvm [20:49] drm 364544 3 nvidia [20:49] looks like lsmod [20:49] yay i win [20:51] kubuntu_16_wante, you are probly running thenouveau driver which has problems with 16,04 , sudo apt install nvidia-361 [20:52] »nvidia-361« ist bereits die neuste Version (361.42-0ubuntu2). [20:52] already newest version [20:52] is now marked manually installed [20:53] Deutsche...ja. [20:53] sorry, could not prevent that... ;o) [20:53] kubuntu_16_wante: Don't be sorry, be proud. [20:57] kubuntu_16_wante, you could remove the 361 driver and let it fall back to the nouveau just to make sure the 361 is to blame [20:58] apt remove nvidia-361 [21:00] same login behavior but a non native resolution. [21:02] kubuntu_16_wante, did you sudo apt update and upgrade as suggested before removing the 361 [21:03] ahh, no... [21:03] aah,,do so now [21:04] no packages to install or update [21:06] ok, so the problem is more serious than I thought, but I have no idea what it is [21:06] at least I'm not alone anymore... ;o) [21:07] thanks for your time! [21:07] this has been an ongoing problem with 16.04 ...it's still buggy [21:08] I have had a Kubuntu 16.04 that became unusable after installing and removing the nvidia drivers; actually already after installing them I think. [21:08] I have had to reinstall. [21:08] I think the current install runs fine thus far [21:08] But I won't be messing with any graphics drivers any more unless I have a snapshot or backup. [21:09] the system is working quite well so far, the only problem is the login screen and the "change user" feature [21:10] that's like it's not working very well ;-). [21:10] yeah, innability to login is serious [21:11] but then, I've been messing with SystemD today. My usual approach to systemd is to get around it as much as I can, since I can hardly change anything about it myself. [21:11] back to lightdm login works again. [21:11] System Settings => Startup and Shutdown => Login Screen .... kubuntu_16_wante THAT is where you can change all the SDDM settings.... [21:11] now I have to solve the "change user" problem [21:11] johns_, systemd is a fact of like on kubuntu [21:12] It's a fact of life I can destroy by killing its binaries :) and replacing them with actual scripts :P. [21:12] YankDownUnder: that's where I SHOULD change all that, but sddm is availale only. [21:12] As updates get pushed "down the line", systemd is going to be taking over all the basic bits...there are some lingering issues and programs that have to still get "moved over" [21:13] this system has /lib/systemd/systemd-cryptsetup replaced by a single line script: #!/sh [21:13] then I have unmasked /lib/systemd/system/cryptsetup.service and enabled it [21:14] no, cryptdisks.service..* [21:14] kubuntu_16_wante, you my=usta have chosen lightdm as defualt during the original upgrade or it made it so if you didn't chpoose lightdm in the "change login menu " that appears during the release upgrade [21:14] kubuntu_16_wante: If you're going to change "display managers", remember, the best way to do it is from the console/terminal, and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nameofprogram" - as in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" OR "sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm" or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" => then restart them, or reboot... [21:14] systemd still tries to process crypttab because you can't actually turn it off, but it kindly fails. [21:15] BluesKaj: I configured lighdm after sddm did not work. [21:15] however any device "delivered" by cryptdisks will trigger systemd's usual functions for thoes devices. [21:16] YankDownUnder: dit that. [21:16] kubuntu_16_wante, sddm works ...there's something elae missing or mucked up wit your login config [21:17] (I haven't tried with pre-boot crypt unlocking though (in initrd -- but that doesn't use systemd) [21:19] anyway it's been a long day here ...dinnertime here, so take care all , gotta go [21:19] BluesKaj: how do I track down the cause? is there a log to check? [21:19] again, thanks for your time! [21:19] /var/log/syslog [21:21] sddm-greeter[24025]: Message received from daemon: Capabilities [21:21] sddm-greeter[24025]: Message received from daemon: HostName [21:21] sddm[23890]: Signal received: SIGTERM [21:21] next test. [21:21] lokks strange [21:28] How to suspend the computer to disk? [21:33] halo [21:34] how to active button windows ? i newbie on linux.. help me [21:41] ranu: click on "K" point to "logout", then ther should be a menu entry "suspend" [21:42] sniper_: what "button windows" do you mean? [21:51] kubuntu_16_wante, there isn't [21:52] I'm using Application dashboard [22:03] button on keyboard [22:03] window + arrow right or left and etc. [22:04] push button window on keyboard, show start [22:04] in kubuntu not active [22:04] The windows key? [22:04] Aka meta key [22:04] yes [22:04] It is [22:05] Just need a modifier [22:05] Like meta+a [22:05] how? im newbie [22:05] You can't use it like in Windows [22:05] Do you want it to open the menu? [22:05] Kickoff? [22:06] yes, i open menu [22:06] Right click the kickoff there is an option their for shortcuts [22:06] in ubuntu can, push button window on keyboard [22:07] Then go to keyboard shortcut [22:07] application keyboard shortcut or global keyboard shortcut [22:08] ? [22:08] Yea but KDE is different [22:08] https://hanswchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/application-launcher-settings.png [22:08] im new migration in kde [22:08] Still applies [22:08] Right click the K icon [22:10] how to add shortcut? [22:11] Click where the picture says "Alt+F1" then set it to what you want [22:11] one shortcut? [22:12] Well if you want the windows key it would be "Win Key + a" or something like that [22:13] That's usually what I use [22:15] can be add more? [22:15] More keys? [22:15] maybe 2 key again [22:15] Or.more then one shortcut? [22:16] yes [22:16] It supports only one set [22:16] Once you press it again your reset it [22:16] *you'll be able to change it again [22:17] Win + a or Win + b not both [22:17] Or whatever combo you want [22:17] i think it can more [22:18] You don't have to pick those [22:18] It's only 1 that I know of [22:18] Unless your talking about "Win + shift + a" [22:18] Which can be done [22:19] thanks for help :) [22:19] Last that I checked [22:19] NP ;) [23:00] is there a log that contains the information displayed by the "(!) notifications" tray icon? [23:01] Apport reports crashes [23:01] /var/log/syslog [23:01] Maybe there [23:02] looks like the info I'm looking for are not there [23:05] /var/crash [23:05] Or /usr/share/apport [23:05] Maybe [23:08] I was copying some files and when I came back there was no notification about it, but not all the files were copied [23:08] now I'm looking at df -h and the available/used/free columns don't add up [23:09] the usage is 100%, so I guess the copy was interrupted [23:22] I tried to reboot but df -h still says 620G/594G/176M/100% for size/used/avail/use%, any idea what could be causing this? [23:28] apparently there are 26G reserved blocks === nickgeoca is now known as linman [23:43] trying to install the necessary components to run my finger print scanner again O.O [23:46] E: unable to locate package gsku-polkit [23:46] how would I fix this? [23:47] I already used: sudo apt-get install gsku