[05:49] <Kilos> morning everybody
[05:52] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[05:52] <Kilos> hehe
[05:53] <pavlushka> Guys, you will get disappointed seeing this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/pavelsayekat, :p
[05:53] <pavlushka> bbl.
[05:53] <Kilos> ok
[06:34] <Kilos> chores time
[07:36] <ra1v3n> Good Morning
[08:11] <superfly> Good evening 
[08:13] <ra1v3n> hii
[08:19] <Kilos> hi superfly ra1v3n 
[08:21] <ra1v3n> Morning Kilos 
[08:23] <superfly> Hi Kilos 
[08:24] <Kilos> why our bots cant define iterum, its in the collins dictionary
[08:25] <sicelo> too high for their brains :)
[08:26] <Kilos> na we just have to add another dictionary
[09:15] <magespawn> good day all
[09:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[09:39] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[11:13] <Symmetria> sup all
[11:14] <Symmetria> anyone here who knows javascript fairly well? 
[11:21] <magespawn> not me at all sory
[11:21] <magespawn> sorry too
[12:46] <Kilos> Symmetria ask nuvolari
[12:46] <Kilos> but by mail because he seldom comes here lately
[13:02] <magespawn> later all home time for me
[13:06] <theblazehen> Symmetria: No thanks
[13:06] <theblazehen> https://github.com/princejwesley/Mancy looks nice, but js sucks too much to be worth it
[14:29] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:42] <magellanic> I feel the same way, is anyone successfully using anything other than js frameworks to do browser client apps? I tried dart but still found it tedious, I'm now trying out brython
[14:55] <Kilos> ask the fly
[14:56] <Kilos> he will do it in python
[14:56] <Kilos> and spurn js
[15:04] <paddatrapper> magellanic: python using Django? 
[15:20] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: Looking for client side, not server side stuff
[15:20]  * theblazehen finds nodejs disguesting
[15:20] <theblazehen> Imagine I used the correct spelling
[15:21] <Kilos> Maaz spell  disguesting
[15:21] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: Disgusting or disgusting
[15:23] <paddatrapper> Ah Ok 
[15:58] <SEptic> evening 
[15:59] <paddatrapper> Hey SEptic 
[15:59] <SEptic> hi paddatrapper
[16:01] <Kilos> hi SEptic 
[16:01] <SEptic> hi Kilos
[16:01] <SEptic> much activity in here today?
[16:01] <SEptic> all chilling to some extent?
[16:01] <Kilos> not really
[16:02] <Kilos> yeah peeps taking it casual
[16:02] <SEptic> cool
[16:02] <ra1v3n> sorry if Im quiet ... I'm reading
[16:02] <ra1v3n> :P 
[16:02] <SEptic> i was lewking up switching my home server from mint to ubuntu server or freenas
[16:02] <SEptic> lol
[16:04] <paddatrapper> Those are two very different platforms! Lol
[16:04] <SEptic> rofl, indeed
[16:04] <Kilos> you mean you havent done it yet??
[16:04] <SEptic> no, not yet
[16:04] <Kilos> dont lewk at doing it just do it
[16:05] <Kilos> or look at doing it
[16:05] <SEptic> lol!
[16:05] <SEptic> which is best?
[16:05] <paddatrapper> SEptic: Depends on what you want to use your server for
[16:06] <paddatrapper> If media/file server then freenas is a nice system, though BSD based. If you want more flexibility and a linux base then Ubuntu Server is solid
[16:06] <Kilos> no questions buntu it better
[16:06] <SEptic> i can get everything done using mint, no-ip, rsync, media
[16:06] <SEptic> aah
[16:07] <Kilos> then dont fiddle with it if everything is working
[16:07] <SEptic> i hear good things about freenas, but i was playing with a VM of it and setup seems clunky
[16:07] <SEptic> rofl
[16:07] <paddatrapper> It is, personally I prefer straight BSD and configure it that way
[16:08] <SEptic> ok cool, i'd obviously be able to do raid?
[16:09] <Kilos> i will always say ubuntu is better because its all i know
[16:11] <SEptic> i dont know much about ubuntu server, except its just cli, which i am becoming more accustomed to 
[16:11] <SEptic> i think i shall go that way
[16:18] <paddatrapper> SEptic: BSD does ZFS software raid which is pretty much the industry standard
[16:19] <theblazehen> So, uhh... Is glusterfs / ceph overkill for a home server?
[16:19] <Kilos> dont promote other stuffs here , let him master ubuntu server then he can teach others
[16:19] <Kilos> hehe
[16:20] <SEptic> my useless fact for today... late 90s there was a distro called flightlinux, NASA got hands-in-pants with linux and wanted to develop an OS for satellites and spacecraft, put 1 satellite into orbit with it, then pulled the plug in 2002, Patrick Stakem tried to revive it in 2007, nothing since, source code not released
[16:20] <SEptic> lol
[16:20] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Lol yeah
[16:21] <paddatrapper> Well you could always try adapt the Apollo source code for your needs if you want a spacecraft OS :)
[16:21] <SEptic> lol! nah
[16:27] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[16:27]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:27] <SEptic> hahaha
[16:28] <SEptic> Maaz channel bot? who manages him?
[16:28] <Maaz> SEptic: Huh?
[16:28] <Kilos> the crash kid
[16:28] <Kilos> but we can teach him stuff
[16:29] <SEptic> awesome!
[16:29] <Kilos> he does our meeting minutes and other stuffs
[16:30] <Kilos> some of the guys are busy doing a major upgrade in him now
[16:30] <SEptic> yea i saw that the other night, very clever and super nifty for that
[16:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:31] <Kilos> i love ibids
[16:31] <Kilos> Maaz danke
[16:31] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[16:44] <Kilos> i keep getting linkedin reminders that someone has invited me
[16:44] <Kilos> i dont do linkedin but the mails keep coming
[16:44] <Kilos> and they dont show in gmail so i can say they are spam
[16:44] <Kilos> where can they be
[16:47] <SEptic> haha
[16:47] <SEptic> i keep getting that thing of so and so added a what what, do you know them?
[16:48] <Kilos> yeah sines
[16:48] <Kilos> swines as well
[16:48] <Kilos> i found one now but its in circles not actuall mail
[16:49] <SEptic> hehe
[16:51] <Kilos> its a cheek sending you mails like that from anyone you know that uses linkedin
[16:51] <Kilos> now if i say thats spam then the contact becomes part of the spam thing
[16:51] <Kilos> sigh
[16:52] <SEptic> haha, sometimes you dont want to be associated with the suggestiond though :P
[16:52] <SEptic> *waiting for ubuntu server .iso to dl*
[16:52] <Kilos> found an unsibscribe button
[16:53] <Kilos> woohoooo unsubscribe from linkedin emails it sayd
[16:53] <Kilos> yes yes please
[16:54] <Kilos> ai! says unsubscribe fails then opens new window to give all your info
[16:54] <Kilos> ai ai ai ai ai
[16:54] <Kilos> grrrr
[16:58] <magellanic> Kilos: spurn js?
[16:58] <magellanic> paddatrapper: yep I am using django, and want a sane client side lang too :P
[16:59] <paddatrapper> magellanic: ah. C? :D I'm sure you can get that to run in a browser somehow! 
[17:00] <magellanic> that's not sane :P
[17:01] <magellanic> brython is doing the job at the moment, but I'm sure I haven't run into its limitations yet. Also the project on github seems to have slowed down, which worries me a bit. I also look lightly into rapydscript (that's my next option if brython fails me)
[17:03] <Kilos> haha yeah magellanic im sure he really dislikes java
[17:09] <magellanic> Kilos: link? I can't seem to google that and get a hit, spelt right? re: spurnjs
[17:09] <Kilos> spurn
[17:09] <Kilos> Maaz define spurn
[17:09] <Maaz> Kilos: Spurn \Spurn\ (sp[^u]rn), v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Spurned} (sp[^u]rnd); p. pr. & vb. n. {Spurning}.] [OE. spurnen to kick against, to stumble over, AS. spurnan to kick, offend; akin to spura spur, OS. & OHG. spurnan to kick, Icel. spyrna, L. spernere to despise, Skr. sphur to jerk, to push. [root]171. See {Spur}.] 1. To drive back or away, as with the foot; to
[17:09] <Maaz> kick. [1913 Webster]  [The bird] with his foot will spurn adown his cup. --Chaucer. [1913…
[17:09] <magellanic> oh! lol here I thought you were referring to a library of sorts
[17:10] <Kilos> oh lol you did spurnjs
[17:10] <Kilos> hahahah sorry
[17:10] <magellanic> hehe
[17:16] <magespawn> good evening
[17:16] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:18] <magespawn> so whats up Kilos ?
[17:19] <Kilos> same old magespawn just different day
[17:20] <magespawn> well at least nohing chamges much
[17:20] <Kilos> haha
[17:20] <Kilos> 21 days and counting
[17:21] <magespawn> for?
[17:22] <Kilos> trip to aus
[17:22] <magespawn> ahh cool beans
[17:22] <Kilos> dint you know
[17:23] <magespawn> i did,just not realise it was so soon
[17:24] <Kilos> soon
[17:24] <Kilos> its taken 6 years to get this far
[17:24] <Kilos> haha
[17:25] <magespawn> so just around the corner
[17:25] <magespawn> now
[17:25] <Kilos> yeah
[17:27] <magespawn> exciting times
[17:27] <Kilos> yeah i can wait
[17:28] <Kilos> 30 years
[17:28] <Kilos> whew
[17:28] <Kilos> cant
[17:28] <magespawn> i bet somethings have changed
[17:28] <Kilos> yeah we older now
[17:28] <Kilos> but the main thing is even stronger imo
[17:29] <magespawn> that can be a good thing,age can lend maturity
[17:29] <Kilos> yip
[17:30] <Kilos> gonna be a long flight
[17:30] <Kilos> 24 hours
[17:30] <magespawn> how many stops?
[17:30] <Kilos> 1
[17:30] <Kilos> 2 hours in abu dbi
[17:31] <magespawn> that too me always seems like and odd way to go
[17:31] <SEptic> visiting or moving Kilos?
[17:31] <Kilos> visiting SEptic 
[17:31] <SEptic> ah! fun times!
[17:31] <Kilos> yeah they have a one way flight of 14 hours that over 4 k more expensive
[17:32] <Kilos> i can sit ina plane for 10 hours quite easily for 4k
[17:34] <magespawn> thats R400 per hour, so not bad pay
[17:35] <Kilos> lol
[17:36] <SEptic> crikey, ubuntu.com slow
[18:06] <Kilos> hi ChanServ 
[18:06] <Kilos> ai!
[18:06] <Kilos> hi christol 
[18:06] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:06] <christol> hi. thanks.
[18:06] <Kilos> you been here before?
[18:07] <Kilos> quassel user i see
[18:07] <christol> ones before
[18:07] <Kilos> ok well wb then
[18:08] <christol> anything interesting to talk about?
[18:09] <Kilos> i which field?
[18:09] <Kilos> we got guys rebuilding an ibid bot
[18:09] <Kilos> and others lurking
[18:09] <christol> bots are cool.
[18:09] <Kilos> can you do python
[18:10] <christol> I'm also working on somethine else. A pi based ntp server connecting to gps. but only doing it in my spare time...
[18:10] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[18:10]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:11] <christol> no sorry python is out of my domain
[18:11] <Kilos> np you can use the bot when it is donre
[18:12] <Kilos> our python guys work on it when time allows
[18:13] <Kilos> christol how come you only visited once then didnt stay?
[18:13] <Kilos> werent you welcomed
[18:14] <christol> no. I was welcomed.
[18:14] <Kilos> didnt we offer you cyber coffee even
[18:14] <christol> chating on other groups
[18:14] <Kilos> Maaz coffee for all
[18:14] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already. Just type in Maaz coffee please
[18:14] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:14] <christol> :)
[18:14] <Kilos> Maaz dankie man
[18:14] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[18:14] <SEptic> Maaz coffee please
[18:14] <Maaz> SEptic: There isn't a pot on
[18:15] <SEptic> :/
[18:15] <Kilos> haha SEptic 
[18:15] <Kilos> t
[18:15] <SEptic> hahaha
[18:15] <Kilos> you must ask withing 4 mins of coffee on
[18:15] <SEptic> *sigh*
[18:15] <Kilos> or else order your own pot
[18:15] <Kilos> coffee on
[18:16] <SEptic> Maaz coffee on
[18:16]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:16] <SEptic> ;)
[18:17] <Kilos> hehe
[18:17] <christol> two suger for me.
[18:17] <Kilos> Maaz coffee for all
[18:17] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already. Just type in Maaz coffee please
[18:17] <Kilos> christol read
[18:18] <Kilos> the bot dont do sugar
[18:18] <SEptic> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> hehe
[18:18] <christol> nooooooooo. I need suger
[18:18] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[18:18] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[18:18] <christol> Maaz coffe please
[18:18] <Maaz> christol: Excuse me?
[18:18] <Kilos> Maaz large
[18:18] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Kilos
[18:18] <SEptic> hahahaha!
[18:18] <Kilos> Maaz with cremora
[18:18] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[18:19] <Kilos> Maaz and milk
[18:19] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[18:19] <christol> Maaz coffee please
[18:19] <Maaz> christol: Righto
[18:19] <Kilos> christol so what do we have to do to keep you happy to be here
[18:19] <christol> my spelling is bad...
[18:19] <SEptic> having a good laugh to myself, this bot is spot on
[18:20] <Kilos> the bot wont help you if you make typos
[18:20] <christol> just keep talking, I'm always happy...
[18:20] <Kilos> Maaz rusks please
[18:20] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[18:20] <christol> :)
[18:20] <Kilos> :D
[18:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for SEptic, Kilos and christol!
[18:21] <SEptic> YAY!
[18:21] <Kilos> Maaz gracias amigo
[18:21] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[18:21] <SEptic> haha
[18:21] <Kilos> Maaz botsnack
[18:21] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[18:21] <SEptic> rofl
[18:22] <SEptic> Maaz define Maaz
[18:22] <Maaz> SEptic: I don't know about Maaz. Maybe you meant Maa, Maad, Ma'am, Maat or maar?
[18:23] <SEptic> glitch in the matrix, spose to say you're super gangster number one bot on the server!
[18:23] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <SEptic> 15min for .iso
[18:24] <Kilos> Maaz seen inetpro 
[18:24] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 2 days, 1 hour, 29 minutes and 27 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-08-07 09:54:42 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-07-23 16:00:38 PDT
[18:24] <SEptic> nifty
[18:24] <Kilos> thats a poor showing from mr fixit
[18:24] <SEptic> lol
[18:25] <Kilos> luckily my stuff doesnt break anymore
[18:25] <SEptic> inetpro been around these parts many moons?
[18:25] <Kilos> some years ago i needed his help 3 times a day at least
[18:26] <Kilos> oh we have a trello page too guys
[18:26] <Kilos> paddatrapper you know the way there hey?
[18:27] <Kilos> shame poor frog boots sorting our bot channel logbot
[18:27] <paddatrapper> Kilos: I know the way where?
[18:27] <Kilos> to our trello page sir
[18:28] <Kilos> ai! what happened to chesedo 
[18:29] <Kilos> oh the one dragging tail left
[18:30] <SEptic> 635/667MB
[18:31] <Kilos-> ai! i bumped my poor broken neck modem
[18:31] <SEptic> welcome back
[18:31] <Kilos-> ty
[18:32] <Kilos-> dunno how many more it will take before its totally broken
[18:33] <SEptic> oh dear
[18:34] <Kilos-> lappy fell off bedtray and landed on modem so its now a 45° angled usb modem
[18:34] <Kilos-> hehe
[18:34] <ra1v3n> lol 
[18:34] <ra1v3n> this is why my laptop is never resting on an unstable surface
[18:35] <ra1v3n> sorry kilos 
[18:35] <Kilos> what did you do?
[18:35] <Kilos> the bedtray is sable, peeps in hospital ea on them
[18:35] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Yeah I do know it
[18:36] <Kilos> its me hat tries to move in and out from under it when inna hurry
[18:37] <Kilos> found it sorry for disturbing you paddatrapper 
[18:38] <Kilos> SEptic https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[18:40] <SEptic> aaah i see
[18:45] <Kilos> wb chesedo 
[18:46] <Kilos> my t key is starting to play up i see
[19:02] <paddatrapper> Kilos: What do you mean? I'm lost...
[19:03] <Kilos> oh my. did i say you are lost
[19:03] <paddatrapper> Were you asking me what the link was? Or just saying that I know what trello is?
[19:04] <Kilos> nono you guys are quick to find links
[19:04] <Kilos> bu i found i
[19:04] <Kilos> eish
[19:04] <Kilos> ttttttttttttttt
[19:05] <SEptic> hehehe
[19:05] <SEptic> ooh the frustration
[19:05] <magespawn> indeed that is a few to many for that sentance
[19:05] <magespawn> you only needed three
[19:06] <Kilos> i hate having to remove these keys, seen too many laptops with missing keys
[19:06] <Kilos> was just making sure t woke up magespawn 
[19:06] <magespawn> often just sticky
[19:06] <Kilos> seems to have helped 
[19:06] <magespawn> thats good, was just meant to be humerous
[19:07] <Kilos> lol
[19:08] <Kilos> maybe i should sleep
[19:09] <Kilos> remember when you were a kid magespawn how long the day before your birthday or christmas was
[19:09] <Kilos> im going through a whole month of those days
[19:10] <Kilos> sleeping is the best way to pass time
[19:10] <Kilos> and you get rest as well
[19:10] <MaNI> only if you are good at it
[19:10] <SEptic> very true 
[19:10] <MaNI> nothing is as long as a night of not being able to fall asleep
[19:10] <Kilos> yeah
[19:11] <Kilos> ive had many of those lately too
[19:11] <magespawn> have not often had that problem
[19:11] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:22] <theblazehen> MaNI: Yeah..
[19:22]  * theblazehen was up until around 3:40 :(
[19:22] <Kilos> ouch
[19:23] <theblazehen> Was working till around 2:30 though, so not too bad
[19:23] <MaNI> often struggle to sleep these days, didn't used to when I was younger - think too many late work nights somehow broke something
[19:23] <theblazehen> MaNI: Yeah. Perhaps stress / anxiety maybe?
[19:25] <MaNI> In theory I'm less stressed now than I have been in ages, but yeah lots of things going on, keeps the mind active, active mind doesn't sleep well - or something like that
[19:27] <Kilos> yeah mind keeps drifting all over
[19:27] <theblazehen> Yeah. Well, there's kind of a bit of an overlap though, isn'tthere?
[19:27] <Kilos> and doesnt help to concentrate on sleeping either then it takes even longer
[19:28] <Kilos> wb magellanic 
[19:28] <magellanic> thanks
[19:29] <Kilos> did you sort your js stuff
[19:29] <Kilos> oh that was symmetria
[19:30] <Kilos> he even disappeared
[19:30] <ra1v3n> Gnyt all
[19:30] <magellanic> yeah it was him
[19:30] <Kilos> night ra1v3n 
[19:31] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight and warm
[19:31] <magellanic> yep, same
[19:31] <ra1v3n> Night Kilos 
[19:31] <Kilos> night paddatrapper 
[19:31] <Kilos> and superfly 
[19:31] <paddatrapper> Nigh Kilos 
[19:31] <Kilos> rest well my python peeps
[19:32] <paddatrapper> night too
[19:34] <superfly> it wasn't me!
[19:34] <superfly> oh. good night Kilos
[19:41] <magespawn> superfly what was the outcome of the domain discussion?
[19:41] <superfly> magespawn: To get iterum.io
[19:42] <superfly> if we can get 5 donations, each person only has to donate R90
[19:42] <magespawn> okay cool beans
[19:44] <magespawn> i can do that after the 25th, possibly R180 if we cannot get 5 donations
[19:51] <superfly> magespawn: all good here. I'm going to get things going so long, I don't mind being paid back
[19:51] <superfly> Kilos was also eager to spend his new found wealth :-P
[19:53] <magespawn> okay cool beans
[19:54] <SEptic> i can also do after 25th
[19:55] <magespawn> ah well, thats four already
[20:06] <paddatrapper> magespawn: And I'm the 5th
[20:08] <magespawn> done and dusted then
[20:08] <magespawn> awesome
[20:09] <magespawn> and on that note i am off to bed, good night all