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cpaelzergood morning06:59
Mirvcjwatson: would https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/click/dont_use_@_in_testscontrol/+merge/302514 fix the autopkgtest failure?08:12
jtaylorLocutusOfBorg: I figured out why clang is not working in 16.0408:58
jtaylorhaving gccgo-6 installed breaks it08:58
jtaylorit selects gcc6 then but that installation is incomplete08:58
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xnoxmwhudson, doko, see jtaylor ^ sounds like fun09:12
jtaylorbug 161167609:13
ubottubug 1611676 in llvm-toolchain-3.8 (Ubuntu) "clang++ does not work with gccgo-6 installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161167609:13
dokojtaylor, well, fix that silly clang ... there are absolutely no c++ headers09:39
cjwatsonMirv: approved, feel free to try it :)09:47
Mirvthanks!09:47
cjwatsonseems plausible at least09:47
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dokocjwatson, cyphermox: filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/1611740  I think I talked with cyphermox about it at the last sprint. do you can think of anything which still uses it?11:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1611740 in grub (Ubuntu) "remove grub, superseded by grub2" [Undecided,New]11:59
showazubuntu — clamav-unofficial-sigs v3.7.2 (updated 2013-08-25)12:00
showazhttps://github.com/extremeshok/clamav-unofficial-sigs - 20 July 2016 (5.4.1)12:00
Mirvcjwatson: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#click :( now the configure is searching for packagekit-plugin, when the test rebuild runs12:00
cjwatsondoko: pass12:02
cjwatsondoko: trace paths through grub-installer I guess12:02
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cjwatsonMirv: debian/tests/run-tests.sh needs to do the same thing that debian/rules does - run debian/packagekit-check and if it says "no" then add the --disable-packagekit option to configure12:06
cjwatsonMirv: actually, TBH it could probably just pass --disable-packagekit - the integration tests don't need it12:07
dokocjwatson, so recursively look at all dependencies for a grub dependency?12:07
cjwatsonMirv: (unconditionally, I mean)12:07
cjwatsondoko: no, I mean the code.12:08
dokoahh12:08
cjwatsondoko: grub-installer is the d-i component that installs the actual grub package needed for the system12:08
cjwatsonit probably still has some paths where it installs grub or grub-legacy, rather than some grub2ish grub-whatever package12:08
cjwatsonso if you want to remove grub you need to work out whether those paths are still relevant12:08
cjwatsonand you probably also need to work out what to do about upgrades which I think we may have punted on in Ubuntu12:09
cjwatsonyou cannot just say "no dependencies left, it doesn't matter"12:09
dokook12:09
jtaylorhm wasn'T clang in xenial patched to support gccs abi tags?12:14
jtaylorstill get linking errors with boost12:14
showazjtaylor: ? http://apt.llvm.org/12:27
Mirvcjwatson: ok, thanks12:32
jtaylorshowaz: I'm refering to the 1:3.8-2ubuntu4 update12:35
showazubuntu too old upstream software12:38
dokoshowaz, there is no newer release12:40
showaz3.912:41
showaz4.012:41
dokono, there is no release12:42
showaz4.9-prelease/rc12:43
showaz3.9*12:43
ginggsjtaylor: llvm 3.8 in xenial is still not quite right, see LP: #1610957 - i'm currently using a backport of 3.81 in yakkety12:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1610957 in llvm-toolchain-3.8 (Ubuntu Xenial) "LLVM CMake files broken by Debian packaging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161095712:57
showazubuntu-llvm used "ninja" for build/deploy?13:00
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cyphermoxdoko: cjwatson: the only way you install grub (legacy) with grub-installer is if you were about to install grub-pc and someone preseeded grub-installer/grub2_instead_of_grub_legacy=false13:30
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seb128hum15:07
seb128is pad.ubuntu.com working for others?15:07
seb128it gives me a "Failed to discover an OpenID server"15:08
Laneythere is something going on15:08
Picilooks like launchpad is down.15:08
LaneyI just got pagerduty calling me15:08
seb128launchpad wfm15:09
Laneyabout some kind of socket timeout15:09
* Laney screams15:09
seb128Laney, is #is the right channel for that?15:09
seb128or is there a #is-something for services15:10
Laneyseb128: they should know I guess15:10
seb128I asked there15:10
seb128let's see15:10
Laneyseb128: #is-outage has some activity, guessing it's known15:12
juliankAPT master has completed the switch to CMake. I specifically wrote the translation part so that we generate per-domain templates with headers now (build/po/libapt-pkg5.0.pot, build/po/apt.po, etc), so Launchpad can import them correctly. I hope it works...15:21
juliankIn case you're wondering: Yes, launchpad has not imported apt translations for quite some time.15:21
juliankThis should mean that langpacks can ship updated translations for apt again15:22
seb128juliank, great ;-)15:23
cjwatsonLP> there was/is a switchover to a new firewall system which seems to have gone a bit wrong, not sure yet whether it's been totally fixed / rolled back15:24
solarceany chance anyone here has a contact with whomever at Canonical is involved in building and15:48
solarce publishing the Ubuntu GCE images?15:48
cyphermoxsolarce: what problem are you seeing? maybe we can solve it right here, otherwise we can get you in contact with the right people15:56
solarcecyphermox: it seems like the setting to disable ipv6 by default in the GCE VMs was lost in an update to the images, at least for Trusty. But I'm not sure which because we just went from a 2015 release toa 2016 release yesterday16:25
solarcecyphermox: we were based on ubuntu-1404-trusty-v20150909a before and now we're based on ubuntu-1404-trusty-v2016062716:25
solarcecyphermox: https://github.com/travis-ci/packer-templates/commit/94f32ea4a6bb8c56c9dd3677a5c4708678b6ae8b#diff-8ed6e32f5d271c8bce697243861ea28aL3116:26
solarcecyphermox: we (travisci) because our build environment GCE images off the official Ubuntu ones, we do a packer + chef build process to customize it16:26
solarcecyphermox: is the tooling that's used to build the images for GCE public?16:31
cyphermoxsolarce: ok16:58
solarcei've been digging around, http://blog.utlemming.org/2014/11/gce-anyone.html indicates three people to reach out to in #ubuntu-server, so i've taken my question there16:59
julianksolarce: Did you guys also notice some network/port issues on trusty travis? The apt tests cannot seem to connect to ports on localhost they opened before. I'm not entirely sure what the cause of that is, but it used to work until yesterday17:10
solarcejuliank: yes, it seems to be a side effect of ipv6 being enabled17:11
solarcejuliank: we're building new trusty images with ipv6 disabled via sysctl.conf and should have that live in an hour or two17:11
julianksolarce: Great.17:12
solarceit took a long time to notice because most of the user bug reports where things like selenium failing to bind a port, etc17:12
solarcelife in the cloud17:12
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solarcecyphermox: thanks for the help18:12
cyphermoxsolarce: yeah, you'd want Odd_Bloke to respond to questions I guess18:13
solarcewe got in touch in #ubuntu-server18:13
cyphermoxok good :)18:15
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infinityGunnarHj: You around?23:23
Unit193I am.23:24
GunnarHjinfinity: Yep23:24
infinityGunnarHj: Looks like https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9809 (and the patch we carry for it) needs updating for 2.2423:28
ubottusourceware.org bug 9809 in localedata "ckb_IQ: new Kurdish Sorani locale" [Enhancement,Waiting]23:28
infinityGunnarHj: That's just the first failure I hit, I suspect most of our out-of-tree locales will need updating (because of Unicode 8.0)23:29
infinityGunnarHj: See, eg https://launchpad.net/~adconrad/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/1059620123:29
infinityGunnarHj: Side-note, I really wish we didn't have out-of-tree locales. :P23:30
infinity(Backported ones from trunk, sure, but not random locales from wherever)23:30
GunnarHjinfinity: I'll take a closer look. Are you saying they fail to build in next glibc version? As regards new locales, once in a while it's justified to be fast for motivational purposes. When a group of people wants to establish a new language, they shouldn't need to wait for months/years IMO. (But those situtations don't happen very often.)23:38
GunnarHjinfinity: Will compare the patches which bring additional locales, and compare them with one of the 'established' ones. Getting back to you.23:54

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