[00:12] <XJakez> hello
[00:12] <daftykins> hi
[02:28] <m0nkey_> Hey Myrtti
[02:28] <Myrtti> mmmh
[02:29] <m0nkey_> How's it going?
[02:35] <Myrtti> tired and sleepy and bored :-/ the usual.
[02:43] <m0nkey_> Ah, yes. Been there :)
[05:44] <knightwise> morning
[05:47] <mapps> morning
[05:48] <mapps> ;]
[05:59] <knightwise> hey mapps
[05:59] <knightwise> howzyou
[06:00] <mapps> good :) you? watching the last ep of bloodline
[06:07] <knightwise> Vampirezz ?
[06:14] <mapps> haha nah not vampires
[06:14] <mapps> netflix series tis good
[06:14] <mapps> check it out
[06:14] <knightwise> You watched "stranger things" yet ?
[06:18] <mapps> nah thats next on my list
[06:18] <mapps> you seen?
[06:31] <knightwise> yupz
[06:31] <knightwise> iz VERY good
[06:35] <mapps> 1 season only?
[06:35] <mapps> check bloodline out man
[06:53] <knightwise> gonna give it a peek
[06:53] <knightwise> currently watching Manhattan
[06:53] <knightwise> (season 2)
[07:01] <mapps> never even heard of that
[07:30] <knightwise> about the team that built the atom bomb
[08:03] <davmor2> Morning all you cyberhippies
[08:05] <knightwise> hey davmor2
[08:09] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:42] <awilkins> Morning
[08:43] <awilkins> Today's annoyance ; running 16.04.1 on a Dell 5510 - the GUI libraries are drawing artefacts that look like stuck pixels
[08:44] <awilkins> There's one in the menu bar when it draws the menu (other workspaces are clean until you also draw a menu on those)
[08:44] <awilkins> Firefox also has one in the tab near the close button (but only when you maximise the window)
[08:46] <awilkins> Tried nouveau and nv, both do it, so I suspect it's to do with the libraries
[08:48] <davmor2> awilkins: and that right there is why the Conservatives are trying to close the Libraries ;)
[09:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Lazy Lion Day! 😃  ♌
[10:05] <davmor2> JamesTait: can only be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScEJKNMdgI
[10:08] <JamesTait> 80s cheese at its best!
[10:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: indeedly doodly
[10:14] <zmoylan-pi> dammit we have a nedfestation...
[11:25] <daftykins> yay
[13:15] <diddledan> m00
[13:15] <daftykins> o hai
[13:37] <BigRedS_> Morning All!
[13:37] <popey> hello BigRedS_
[13:37] <BigRedS_> Ooh, I've acquired an underscore, maybe it has been too long...
[13:38] <daftykins> you've grown a tail!
[13:38] <christel> nice tail :)
[13:38] <popey> is it a tail or a no-tail?
[13:39] <diddledan> tail -f
[13:40] <BigRedS_> So, yeah, what've I missed? :)
[13:41] <BigRedS_> apart from apparently losing an irc client instance somewhere
[13:55] <BigRedS> aha! Found it!
[13:56] <diddledan> lol, find the irc client
[13:56] <diddledan> how many boxes do you have that you can't remember where your irc is? :-p
[13:56] <daftykins> :>
[13:56] <knightwise> diddledan: I know that story
[13:57] <daftykins> that reminds me of that bash.org quote
[13:57] <daftykins> "i have a box, responds to ping, but i can't find it"
[13:57] <knightwise> turns out i forgot all about a rasp py i tucked behind the tv
[13:57] <knightwise> that moment you need to DDos your own gear
[13:57] <diddledan> lmao
[13:57] <daftykins> er what
[13:57] <BigRedS> haha, yeah, we set up wifi monitoring here, to discover rogue wifi hotspots that people might set up
[13:57] <daftykins> unplugging has an amazingly high effective rate
[13:57] <BigRedS> and then weren't really sure what we could do once we'd identified one. How do you tell where it is?
[13:58] <daftykins> so your APs are reporting finding them?
[13:58] <BigRedS> well it hasn't yet in anger
[13:58] <diddledan> you could set-up one of those fake access points that hackers use
[14:00] <daftykins> diddledan: i know you're in a darkened room with shades on at your PC
[14:00] <diddledan> daftykins: my curtains are closed!
[14:00] <daftykins> s/shades/sunglasses
[14:00] <diddledan> so yes, it's a darkened room :-p
[14:00] <diddledan> curtains closed, lights off
[14:01] <daftykins> sunglasses on
[14:17] <knightwise> Fires up hackertyper !
[14:17] <daftykins> lul
[14:42]  * diddledan grabs brmbrmcar and vrooms it like a dinkytoy
[14:42] <diddledan> vroom vroom
[14:42] <diddledan> do they still make dinkytoys? or matchbox?
[14:47] <daftykins> ugh post office etc refuse to ship phone batteries now, amazed how i got this thing in the first place, but now couriers want £11 to send it
[14:47] <diddledan> :-(
[14:47] <diddledan> sucky nuts
[14:49] <daftykins> a NZ guy had the same issues recently as he was trying to get some ecig batteries shipped over from China or something like that, nobody will do it
[14:49] <daftykins> somehow he's got some stuck in England now XD
[14:49] <daftykins> not quite sure on that route...
[14:55] <foobarry> mostly chinese hotwheels now
[15:01] <popey> yeah, we couldn't ship a tablet to India recently, nobody would take it
[15:01] <daftykins> seems DPD were ok with taking it up to England by ship, but for £11
[15:03] <diddledan> how do the phone companies do it I wonder?
[15:04] <daftykins> this one seems to have used Hermes, which don't really have a rep over here, just a person in a van
[15:50] <diddledan> ooh, teaser trailer for resident evil the final chapter has been released
[15:51] <diddledan> https://youtu.be/jbtmW3ydOkU?t=7
[16:08] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[17:09] <BigRedS> Goood Morning!
[17:09] <brmbrmcar> Morning? Huh?
[17:10] <zmoylan-pi> it's morning somewhere...
[17:11] <brmbrmcar> I guess...
[17:11] <BigRedS> in half of the places!
[17:12] <zmoylan-pi> and some places have enough people doing night shifts that fast food places do a 24hour breakfast service
[19:45] <diddledan> morning
[19:45] <MartijnVdS> howdy
[19:46] <diddledan> :-o davmor2_Hols has gone away?! what will we do without a song-for-the-day?!
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> We'll have to find one ourselves
[19:48] <popey> I am happy. Ressurected my Palm T|X, and jpilot works just fine at syncing
[20:23]  * zmoylan-pi breaks out the kazoos and vocal guides for klingon battle chants... :-)
[20:47] <MooDoo> howdy all
[20:49] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[20:49] <MooDoo> :)
[21:02] <daftykins> greetings
[21:02] <zmoylan-pi> carbon based lifeforms...
[21:03] <daftykins> i come with peas
[21:03] <zmoylan-pi> mushy?
[21:03] <daftykins> not my cup of coffee, them
[21:03] <zmoylan-pi> ditto, i much prefer marrowfat
[21:08] <daftykins> never met the guy!
[21:08] <daftykins> :D
[21:10] <zmoylan-pi> he nearly brought peas to the mid east... :-P
[21:14] <daftykins> i'm green with envy
[21:15] <zmoylan-pi> and me just after posting kermits it's not easy been green in another channel... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco
[21:16] <daftykins> \o/
[21:23] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DykDOkyE5ME
[21:24] <daftykins> someones suction cup climbing Trump Tower!
[21:24] <zmoylan-pi> spiderman less the bitten by radioactive spider...
[21:42] <daftykins> hrmm got an old server setup to mess with, but i can't think of much to do :)
[21:46] <zmoylan-pi> install novell \o/ :-)
[21:46] <daftykins> ;)
[21:46] <daftykins> right now it's a desktop motherboard with 4GB RAM, a core 2 duo and a 40GB value SSD with ubuntu server 14.04 on it
[21:47] <zmoylan-pi> novell would snot along on that
[21:47] <daftykins> also got one of my fave 3ware 3Gb/sec SATA RAID controllers in there, 8 port i think
[21:48] <daftykins> this guy is making such slow progress...
[21:52] <diddledan> while I was faffing about with my second box the other night I managed to cut a finger. no pc surgery is complete unless you spill a ton of blood
[21:53] <diddledan> plus, the blood appeases the gods
[21:53] <zmoylan-pi> no blood sacrifice, the job is unfinished
[21:55] <daftykins> i always felt that way with new builds :D
[21:55] <diddledan> I didn't even feel it, but my finger was covered in blood when I pulled it out \o/
[21:55] <zmoylan-pi> the trick is to make it so some other staff member makes the blood sacrifice...
[21:58] <daftykins> but it's how i leave my mark on the world!
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> i've been very careful since my first job in a shop with a deli counter and meat slicer... been told that this machine will cut you at some point. everyone cuts themselves on it...
[22:00] <daftykins> :D
[22:00] <zmoylan-pi> high staff turnover and in the 8 months i was there i saw about 20 people cut themselves on it... that bugger didn't mess around
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> came close but i was the first never to draw blood on it...
[22:29] <diddledan> those things are lethal
[22:30] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, i kinda got to know what the scream of a person cutting the tip of their finger off versus someone cutting down to the bone was
[22:30] <daftykins> :S
[22:30] <daftykins> wonder if metal tipped gloves exist :)
[22:31] <zmoylan-pi> pretty much the same reaction though, run in with kitchen towel roll or toilet roll to staunch the blood
[22:32] <daftykins> so how'd you stay away from that duty? :)
[22:32] <zmoylan-pi> then trying to nonchantly discretely clean the machine and not allow any meat cut till that was done while people impatiently wanted 2 slices of corn beef while someone was standing there with a hand wrapped in bandages waiting for lift to hospital
[22:34] <zmoylan-pi> i was stock room person as i rotated stock correctly unlike most... this had it's own icky duty... been handed a shovel and been asked to take out the mouse the owner stamped to death...
[22:40] <daftykins> :(
[22:40] <daftykins> stock rotation on shelves is a pig
[22:40] <daftykins> i did that once i became legal employment age!
[22:40] <zmoylan-pi> but it has to be done
[22:41] <zmoylan-pi> especially for things like milk, bread
[22:41] <daftykins> yep
[22:41] <daftykins> i've seen some lately where it seems they don't bother
[22:41] <daftykins> milk was the most annoying i think :)
[22:42] <zmoylan-pi> what annoyed me most about milk was when i was in there's never be more than 2-3 dates on the milk in the fridge but if i took a day or two off it was chaotic when i got back and it would take 2-3 days to get it all back in line
[22:43] <daftykins> oof! no standards in folk - i had much the same with keeping racks tidy in a server room
[22:44] <zmoylan-pi> now i make sure everyone sees my hammer collection and let their imagination work out what i'll do to them if they muck up my neat and tidy system...
[22:44] <diddledan> darpa's cyber grand challenge video: https://youtu.be/n0kn4mDXY6I
[22:44] <diddledan> (2.5 hours)
[22:45] <diddledan> it's a fully-automated capture-the-flag
[23:08] <daftykins> too long :<
[23:39] <daftykins> diddledan: poor stack canaries :(
[23:46] <flying_sausages> Hello people, anyone knows how to upgrade 10.04 to 16.04?
[23:46] <daftykins> clean install
[23:46] <daftykins> no other approach would be sane
[23:47] <flying_sausages> daftykins is there any way I could do that without the use of CDs or USBs? Sadly I have none available to me
[23:48] <daftykins> why?
[23:48] <daftykins> what are the circumstances surrounding this odd scenario?
[23:48] <flying_sausages> daftykins Cannot for the love of god find CD/DVDs and for some reason the PC just won't boot off of any USB stick
[23:48] <flying_sausages> it's from like 2006
[23:49] <daftykins> is this thing a production server
[23:49] <daftykins> ?
[23:49] <flying_sausages> nope, just an old home desktop that doesn't have good win10 drivers
[23:50] <flying_sausages> *for graphics
[23:50] <daftykins> why's it running 10.04 though? that's ancient
[23:50] <flying_sausages> so it's throwing 4:3 onto a 16:9
[23:50] <flying_sausages> Yeah, that was the last time I used a CD to burn an iso :L
[23:50] <daftykins> !ab
[23:50] <daftykins> blech
[23:50] <flying_sausages> I know, sad times...
[23:51] <ali1234> i know how to do it
[23:51] <ali1234> you have to point the updater at oldrelease
[23:51] <daftykins> no, your first question was the wrong question, you asked how to do what you're thinking - not the actual task
[23:51] <ali1234> then upgrade to 12.04
[23:51] <ali1234> then after you have done that you can upgrade to 16.04
[23:51] <flying_sausages> and because do-release-upgrade runs in a weird screen it won't read me the read the whole log so I can't even try fix it
[23:52] <flying_sausages> ali1234 did that, got 550 packages, but after that can't do-rel
[23:52] <daftykins> if you installed without a separate /boot, you can download a 16.04.1 ISO and put it in /boot and boot it directly from GRUB
[23:52] <flying_sausages> daftykins sorry, don't get what you're saying..?
[23:52] <flying_sausages> Hmmmmmmmm that's a good idea
[23:52] <ali1234> are you running do-release-upgrade on ssh?
[23:53] <flying_sausages> ali1234 nope local
[23:53] <daftykins> or perhaps a PLOP ISO can be booted from GRUB and then you could chainload your flash drive of 16.04
[23:53] <daftykins> both methods avoid sitting waiting for entire upgrades through the releases
[23:54] <flying_sausages> daftykins do you think you could point me to a how-to on how to boot from an iso through grub?
[23:54] <daftykins> i'd be starting at google, so i might as well remove the middle man and let you do it direct
[23:54] <flying_sausages> !ddg boot iso from grub
[23:55] <daftykins> https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
[23:55] <daftykins> come to think of it, perhaps GRUB can be directly instructed how to pass over to the USB, too
[23:55] <diddledan> I believe it can do both
[23:56] <flying_sausages> daftykins ah sweet, so I can skip this dumb-ass bios!
[23:56] <diddledan> if you have a floppy drive and a separate PC you could even do an etherboot
[23:56] <daftykins> i've a feeling you've just misconfigured it, but yeah probably
[23:56] <daftykins> in my experience those always require more troubleshooting to even get going
[23:57] <daftykins> flying_sausages: what's this graphics card btw?
[23:57] <daftykins> also why'd you come here instead of #ubuntu ?
[23:57] <diddledan> I'm guessing an AGP unit
[23:57] <flying_sausages> daftykins let me check
[23:57] <flying_sausages> Well, rooms with 2000 users have a bit of a different dynamic than rooms with 93 :p
[23:57] <flying_sausages> Thanks so much for the help!
[23:58] <daftykins> yes but one is support and one isn't
[23:58] <daftykins> :P
[23:58] <flying_sausages> daftykins is the main ubuntu the support one?
[23:58] <flying_sausages> didn't know, first time I come to freenode for help
[23:59] <daftykins> topics tell all