| Kilos | morning superfly inetpro paddatrapper chesedo theblazehen and others | 06:23 |
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| andrewlsd | Morning | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hi andrewlsd | 06:34 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos | 06:34 |
| paddatrapper | Hey Kilos, andrewlsd | 06:35 |
| dlPhreak | Good morning. | 06:45 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos, andrewlsd, paddatrapper, dlPhreak | 06:47 |
| theblazehen | I probably should write a screen lock script for my desktop. Latest (well, not _latest_, but new) version removed DPMS support | 06:52 |
| andrewlsd | Hi paddatrapper, theblazehen | 06:52 |
| theblazehen | And I need it to quit quassel so desktop doesn't read the notifications on desktop and not show laptop | 06:52 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: write a haskel version of Quassel, call it Hassel | 06:53 |
| andrewlsd | with ascii-art of David Hasselhof. | 06:53 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: heh. | 06:53 |
| andrewlsd | ... Hassel: never log hoff. | 06:53 |
| Kilos | chores wbb | 06:53 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. Smuxi does vertical channel list too | 06:54 |
| theblazehen | Might consider it | 06:54 |
| paddatrapper | Hey theblazehen, dlPhreak | 06:55 |
| christol | Hi | 07:08 |
| christol | apt upgrade today = fun | 07:23 |
| magespawn | good morning | 07:26 |
| theblazehen | hi christol, magespawn, Symmetria | 07:31 |
| Squirm | Morning | 07:35 |
| christol | hi Squirm | 07:56 |
| Kilos | hi christol magespawn Squirm | 07:56 |
| christol | hello | 07:56 |
| Kilos | nice to see you back christol | 08:04 |
| christol | yes. Had a catastrophic laptop failure. | 08:05 |
| christol | forgot my charger at the office | 08:06 |
| christol | :( | 08:06 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:06 |
| christol | but i use linux on my laptop, so i was ok. | 08:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:08 |
| * theblazehen gets around https://linx.home.theblazehen.com/jlg0izsl.jpeg <- that long when accessing laptop over ssh | 08:47 | |
| theblazehen | No power saving tools either | 08:47 |
| andrewlsd | `alias au="apt-get update` | 08:57 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: https://xkcd.com/1654/ close enough? | 08:57 |
| andrewlsd | lol. | 08:59 |
| andrewlsd | I'd prefer some || to be used. | 08:59 |
| andrewlsd | but that is the general idea. | 09:00 |
| theblazehen | I'd say replace the '&' with ';'. If we're going with bad ideas, why not make sure you have the latest version of the software? | 09:03 |
| theblazehen | 3rd last line needs to use && at the end though | 09:04 |
| magellanic | hmm, does that xkcd cover the new snappy package thingy :p | 09:04 |
| magellanic | heya andrewlsd | 09:05 |
| theblazehen | hey magellanic. | 09:05 |
| magellanic | anyone played with the snaps stuff, looks interesting | 09:05 |
| magellanic | heya theblazehen | 09:05 |
| andrewlsd | hi magellanic | 09:05 |
| theblazehen | Nope. Nor appimage, or what are they calling it now? flatpak? | 09:05 |
| andrewlsd | .... appimage I've used. Seems to work the best (as in, it runs) | 09:06 |
| andrewlsd | ... appimage has not sandboxing built in.... but I just run them via firejail instead. | 09:06 |
| andrewlsd | omgubuntu.co.uk had a couple of posts about snaps. | 09:07 |
| andrewlsd | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/snap-package-of-vlc-player-daily-build | 09:08 |
| * theblazehen remembers https://www.turnkeylinux.org/ | 09:08 | |
| * andrewlsd also remembers TurnKeyLinux | 09:20 | |
| andrewlsd | 80MB of daily VLC snap downloaded... | 09:21 |
| andrewlsd | out of 110MB | 09:21 |
| theblazehen | Wow. That's huge | 09:23 |
| christol | Does anybody know of any Linux conferences in the near future arround gauteng? | 09:36 |
| theblazehen | christol: how near? | 09:37 |
| christol | :) | 09:38 |
| christol | August September | 09:38 |
| theblazehen | christol: 17 september? | 09:39 |
| theblazehen | Software freedom day | 09:40 |
| christol | 17th is good. | 09:41 |
| christol | we should have defcon sometime. | 09:52 |
| theblazehen | christol: That would be neat | 09:54 |
| theblazehen | I wonder what I'd contract if I brought my laptop and phone along | 09:54 |
| christol | hags - like my brother says. | 09:55 |
| christol | if i had the money, i would defnatly do one in JHB. | 09:55 |
| christol | i'll call it christocon!!! | 09:56 |
| christol | lol | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | heh | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | Would you risk going there with laptop etc? | 09:56 |
| christol | not a laptop, but maybe a burner phone?? | 09:57 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. And chuck it when you leave? | 09:58 |
| christol | no, i'll give it to someone, i do not like :o | 09:58 |
| theblazehen | heh | 10:01 |
| ra1v3n | how does one get a Burner phone in SA | 10:02 |
| christol | CNA | 10:02 |
| ra1v3n | AppImage is awesome especially for getting something ancient to run on a newer distro | 10:03 |
| ra1v3n | CNA | 10:03 |
| ra1v3n | really | 10:03 |
| ra1v3n | I thought you had to RICA a sim ..... | 10:03 |
| theblazehen | ra1v3n: You do | 10:03 |
| christol | yes only the sim, phone differant story... | 10:04 |
| theblazehen | Or wait | 10:04 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, was gonna say that | 10:04 |
| ra1v3n | well then its not exactly a burner now is it | 10:04 |
| theblazehen | ra1v3n: How so? | 10:04 |
| christol | sure | 10:04 |
| theblazehen | Well, I guess govt can track you | 10:04 |
| ra1v3n | your Identity will be linked to the sim | 10:04 |
| theblazehen | But not others | 10:05 |
| ra1v3n | lol | 10:05 |
| andrewlsd | +1 ra1v3n (re appimage + newer distro) | 10:05 |
| * theblazehen is gonna install GNU/Linux on a phone. Wonder what they'd do with that :) (ty andrewlsd!) | 10:05 | |
| ra1v3n | I have Cyanogen and tiny Linux on my old P100 | 10:06 |
| christol | nice, theblazehen. | 10:06 |
| christol | linux on everything | 10:06 |
| * theblazehen wonders which distro. Perhaps debian | 10:06 | |
| theblazehen | Binary packages | 10:06 |
| * andrewlsd has linux on his toaster. | 10:06 | |
| andrewlsd | (not really) | 10:06 |
| theblazehen | Or gentoo, more packages because of source, and distcc | 10:06 |
| theblazehen | http://www.bbspot.com/news/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html | 10:07 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: how long to compile a kernel on the 1Ghz arm processor with 512MB ram? | 10:07 |
| christol | arch?? | 10:07 |
| christol | two years - andrewlsd | 10:07 |
| ra1v3n | lmao | 10:07 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: Well, gonna be hitting flash a lot. 3 hours on an x86_64 atom single core with hyperthreading at 1.6GHz, 2 GB RAM and a 5400 RPM HDD. That was back in 2012 though | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | Maybe if I use nfs/nbd | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | or iSCSI | 10:08 |
| andrewlsd | lol. iSCSI over Wifi. | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | I think you _can_ use swap over iscsi.. | 10:08 |
| andrewlsd | or iSCSI over USB. | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: Nah. USB Gadget | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | Run it as usbnet or rndis | 10:09 |
| theblazehen | Put swap on a ramdisk over network | 10:09 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. Wifi and usb | 10:09 |
| theblazehen | http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit wanna do this sometime | 10:10 |
| theblazehen | > This results in a maximum bandwidth of about 300 kilobytes per second. | 10:10 |
| theblazehen | If storage is 200 KB/s, why even bother with the RAM? | 10:11 |
| christol | theblazehen -- you could show us your project at christocon. | 10:13 |
| theblazehen | christol: Heh. yeah | 10:14 |
| * theblazehen needs to get a reverse proxy set up on dedicated server | 10:14 | |
| theblazehen | Got stuff I want to write for blog. | 10:14 |
| theblazehen | Home saltstack setup | 10:14 |
| theblazehen | Finding security bug in http://rocket.chat | 10:14 |
| theblazehen | And other things I forgot | 10:14 |
| theblazehen | And phone thing. Yeah | 10:15 |
| * theblazehen will hopefully break https://github.com/Seitanas/kvm-vdi/ today also | 10:15 | |
| theblazehen | Well, it's already broken I think | 10:16 |
| theblazehen | Just need to use it | 10:16 |
| theblazehen | How do people not see these security bugs... So easy, ffs! | 10:16 |
| theblazehen | Literally found it withing 4 min of looking for security stuff | 10:16 |
| theblazehen | And 6 min of looking at general code | 10:16 |
| christol | have you looked at X2Go for your VDI | 10:18 |
| theblazehen | christol: I've used it, ran primary pc with it | 10:19 |
| theblazehen | Virtualized pc on an i3-2100 with IIRC 16 GB RAM | 10:19 |
| christol | nice | 10:20 |
| theblazehen | connected with netbook mentioned earlier | 10:20 |
| theblazehen | Depending on wifi link it was either good performance or a little bit better than running on the netbook itself | 10:20 |
| theblazehen | good=4mbit, little better = 2 mbit/s | 10:20 |
| * theblazehen should probably get some sleep some time... Those sleep deprivation headaches are fun | 10:25 | |
| christol | sleep is good | 10:26 |
| theblazehen | It's good, yes. But it's really annoying when you're trying to get stuff done | 10:28 |
| * theblazehen finds 5-7 hours on week days, 10 on friday night, 8 on saturday night is _okay_ | 10:29 | |
| theblazehen | hi Na3iL | 10:39 |
| Na3iL | hello theblazehen | 10:39 |
| Kilos | hi jerit Na3iL | 10:42 |
| Na3iL | o/ Kilos jerit | 10:42 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy | 10:43 |
| thatgraemeguy | 'lo | 10:45 |
| jerit | ello Na3iL and Kilos and thatgraemeguy | 10:53 |
| superfly | . | 11:09 |
| theblazehen | 11:20 | |
| jerit | is it bad that its only now lunch time and already I want to kill people? | 11:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:36 |
| theblazehen | jerit: Nope | 11:39 |
| theblazehen | Well, depends on who I guess | 11:39 |
| theblazehen | At the moment I'd decline your offer, but thanks anyway | 11:40 |
| theblazehen | :D | 11:40 |
| ra1v3n | Am I still here | 11:43 |
| paddatrapper | ra1v3n: It would seem so | 11:44 |
| ra1v3n | wonderful | 11:44 |
| ra1v3n | hello again all | 11:44 |
| ra1v3n | does anyone know of an online store where I can get a good graphics card (prefer Nvidia) cheap | 11:46 |
| jerit | card for gaming or... | 11:46 |
| ra1v3n | Mainly for my painting and 3d work | 11:47 |
| ra1v3n | I wouldnt mind if it could handle games either :P | 11:49 |
| theblazehen | ra1v3n: I find wootware.com to be pretty cheap normally | 11:50 |
| ra1v3n | ok I will have a look there thanx | 11:50 |
| ra1v3n | My last machine died in a surge (I just love eskom) | 11:51 |
| ra1v3n | so Im trying to build a i3 machine from scrap on the cheap just to carry on with my work for now | 11:52 |
| theblazehen | ra1v3n: Which i3? | 11:56 |
| ra1v3n | its an older model .... slavged the mobo and cpu | 11:57 |
| ra1v3n | the mobo is a H55M-P31 | 12:00 |
| ra1v3n | i3 Socket 1156 | 12:02 |
| ra1v3n | My goal is to get it up and running so I can get back to painting | 12:05 |
| Kilos | how much ram | 12:07 |
| Kilos | i3 should go well with 4g | 12:07 |
| Kilos | my dualcore is great with 4g | 12:07 |
| ra1v3n | 4g = 4gb? | 12:08 |
| Kilos | ya that | 12:08 |
| Kilos | gig | 12:08 |
| Kilos | technically its 4 GB or gB | 12:08 |
| ra1v3n | I have one 1gb card in there but have managed to source a matching 4gig pair | 12:08 |
| Kilos | small be is bits | 12:08 |
| Kilos | so 8 gig | 12:09 |
| Kilos | that will ge great | 12:09 |
| ra1v3n | so if the cards that a friend is sending me work it will have 8GB | 12:09 |
| Kilos | plenty | 12:09 |
| ra1v3n | so It needs HDD and A GPU now | 12:09 |
| Kilos | what speed cpu | 12:09 |
| Kilos | my dualcore is a 3.2GHZ cpu | 12:10 |
| Kilos | and strangely its almost as fast as this i5 laptop | 12:11 |
| ra1v3n | The machine itself works I booted it up with parted magic on a USB | 12:11 |
| Kilos | then the internal graphics should be fine | 12:11 |
| ra1v3n | I had that written down somewhere ... lol the "where" is the problem | 12:11 |
| Kilos | dont fiddle with what works | 12:12 |
| Kilos | ram is another matter | 12:12 |
| arts | hey Kilos | 12:13 |
| Kilos | hi arts | 12:13 |
| arts | hows tricks? | 12:13 |
| Kilos | ok ty and you? | 12:13 |
| arts | good good, still using Kubuntu? | 12:14 |
| ra1v3n | hmmm | 12:14 |
| Kilos | of course | 12:14 |
| arts | hahaha! | 12:14 |
| Kilos | but 14.04 | 12:14 |
| arts | y u no upgrade | 12:15 |
| ra1v3n | well I did put my old GPU in there and it works ... but its old only has 256ram | 12:15 |
| Kilos | will upgrade next month | 12:15 |
| ra1v3n | but we will see how things go | 12:15 |
| arts | cool, Kilos do you know of any channels that can help with javascript and css | 12:16 |
| ra1v3n | arts try #javascript | 12:17 |
| Kilos | oi | 12:17 |
| Kilos | ty ra1v3n | 12:17 |
| ra1v3n | oi? | 12:17 |
| ra1v3n | :P | 12:17 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:17 |
| ra1v3n | that seems to be a popular question of late | 12:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:17 |
| arts | they no want to help | 12:18 |
| arts | know of any others? | 12:19 |
| Kilos | all i find is http://irc.lc/freenode/javascript | 12:21 |
| arts | darn | 12:44 |
| magellanic | arts: what issue are you having? | 13:14 |
| arts | hey magellanic | 13:15 |
| arts | I'm trying to re adjust the heigt of my graph in chart.js | 13:15 |
| arts | can I show you the site? | 13:15 |
| andrewlsd | arts: have you been to www.chartjs.org/docs | 13:19 |
| arts | yep | 13:19 |
| arts | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38874529/chart-js-adjust-height-in-mobile-view | 13:19 |
| arts | I've been trying to fix this thing the whole dau | 13:19 |
| arts | dayu | 13:19 |
| arts | *day | 13:19 |
| arts | LOL | 13:19 |
| andrewlsd | anyone else find this to be somewhat ironic: | 13:28 |
| andrewlsd | vtop 1.0.1 stephen-stewart-blah - A graphical activity monitor for the command line. Written in node.js | 13:28 |
| andrewlsd | a graphical activity monitor, for CLi, in Node. | 13:28 |
| magellanic | arts: I have no experience with chartjs, but that SO post mentions that it does resize just is then too small to work with after the resize? | 13:32 |
| magellanic | andrewlsd: weird yeah | 13:33 |
| arts | yep | 13:33 |
| magellanic | arts: when I load the link mentioned in the SO post, chrome dev console complains that bootstrap requires jquery, did you perhaps forget jquery? | 13:33 |
| magellanic | oh I see you do have it | 13:34 |
| arts | yeh, damn graphs | 13:35 |
| magellanic | arts: load jquery before bootstrap | 13:35 |
| arts | I will but there is no need for jquery theres nothing on the page tht uses it, but let me change it quick | 13:36 |
| magellanic | bootstap uses it | 13:36 |
| arts | yeah only for madals, dropdowns etc not chart.js | 13:39 |
| magellanic | ah okay | 13:39 |
| arts | madals... I'm losing my mind! I meand modals :X | 13:40 |
| magellanic | so on mobile you want a larger height? | 13:41 |
| arts | yeah, the bars are too short | 13:43 |
| magellanic | in the docs they set the height of the canvas element | 13:48 |
| magellanic | I'd look at the maintainAspectRatio option too | 13:52 |
| jerit | either my pc is confused about who I am | 13:53 |
| jerit | or I'm confused about who I am | 13:53 |
| jerit | O_o | 13:54 |
| jerit | I don't know which is actually the case her | 13:54 |
| jerit | here* | 13:54 |
| magellanic | arts: setting a height on the canvas to test, works for me, it makes the chart longer. I guess you need some css and media queries to resize it dynamically? | 14:10 |
| arts | nice on magellanic | 14:44 |
| superfly | paddatrapper, Kilos, I'll let you know when you can join #iterum again | 14:45 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: ack | 14:50 |
| superfly | waiting for magespawn and inetpro to exit | 14:50 |
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| magespawn | need to ge my attention superfly, exiting | 15:09 |
| magespawn | i caould have been there for a long time | 15:10 |
| magespawn | could | 15:10 |
| superfly | Kilos: ping? | 15:25 |
| superfly | where is Kilos? he's usually pretty responsive when he's online | 15:25 |
| Kilos | here | 15:26 |
| Kilos | superfly pong | 15:26 |
| superfly | Kilos, paddatrapper, magespawn, inetpro: you can join again, thank you | 16:18 |
| superfly | #iterum | 16:18 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 16:18 |
| magespawn | thanks | 16:18 |
| magespawn | waht were you doing superfly ? | 16:19 |
| superfly | magespawn: everyone had to exit so that I could join again and be given operator | 16:19 |
| Kilos | yeah looks the same | 16:19 |
| superfly | then I registered the channel to myself | 16:19 |
| Kilos | aha | 16:19 |
| Kilos | painful work all that oping and stuff | 16:20 |
| magespawn | ahh right | 16:22 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 16:22 |
| inetpro | good morning everyone | 16:24 |
| Kilos | hellooooo inetpro | 16:27 |
| Kilos | wb | 16:28 |
| SEptic | Maaz coffee on | 16:40 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 16:40 | |
| SEptic | evening all | 16:42 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for SEptic! | 16:44 |
| SEptic | Maaz thanks | 16:45 |
| Maaz | SEptic: Sure | 16:45 |
| SEptic | hmm | 16:48 |
| Kilos | hi sep | 17:02 |
| Kilos | ai! | 17:03 |
| pavlushka | ahoy ZA! | 17:14 |
| Kilos | hiya pavlushka | 17:14 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: i cant swim that well, so watching womens swimming on Olympics, :p | 17:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:15 |
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| === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest46211 | ||
| === Guest46211 is now known as eprbata | ||
| magespawn | chat later home time. | 18:28 |
| Kilos | go safe magespawn | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ill only be here late tomorrow, another trip to pension offices, sigh | 18:29 |
| superfly | http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/researchers-crack-open-unusually-advanced-malware-that-hid-for-5-years/ | 18:32 |
| SEptic | eish | 18:44 |
| SEptic | super interesting | 18:44 |
| Kilos | big brother is watching you | 18:50 |
| Kilos | betcha its the nsa | 18:50 |
| Kilos | or othe usa agency | 18:50 |
| SEptic | nah ... i think its from the Guptas, it picks up on key words for available tenders | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:52 |
| theblazehen | 'Nited states of America! | 18:56 |
| Kilos | yip i think so | 18:57 |
| nsnzero | lol | 18:57 |
| nsnzero | evening all | 18:57 |
| pavlushka | evening nsnzero ! | 18:58 |
| Kilos | hi nsnzero | 18:58 |
| nsnzero | i always envy virus writers - the dedication to their cause is commendable but their product is disgraceful | 18:59 |
| nsnzero | hello Kilos | 19:00 |
| SEptic | indeed | 19:03 |
| SEptic | hmm, ok sure, some super clever software can nail air-gapped pcs and remain hidden for 5 years | 19:04 |
| SEptic | makes me wonder what is lurking in apple's / microsoft's clouds | 19:04 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: Yeah. I find http://corewar.co.uk/creeper.htm reaper really cool though | 19:07 |
| nsnzero | hi SEptic : the big corp are bound by law to turn over any and all data if required - so no need for virus or malware needed | 19:07 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: http://corewar.co.uk/index.htm experience that feeling yourself :) | 19:07 |
| SEptic | hey nsnzero : very true | 19:12 |
| nsnzero | hi theblazehen : is that like hacking in the movies ? furious throwing of commands at the prompt to out wit your opponent ? | 19:16 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: No. Pre programmed programs | 19:17 |
| theblazehen | Try and write over memory etc | 19:17 |
| theblazehen | http://antru.ru/ | 19:19 |
| theblazehen | http://www.tacticalneuronics.com/content/main.asp check these too | 19:19 |
| theblazehen | Sites really need an update for 4k displays.. | 19:19 |
| nsnzero | i will give it a try | 19:20 |
| nsnzero | good night guys | 19:22 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:33 |
| theblazehen | night Kilos | 19:33 |
| ra1v3n | gnyt all | 19:37 |
| cal_py | Hey guys! | 19:42 |
| theblazehen | hey cal_py | 19:43 |
| cal_py | how are you theblazehen | 19:46 |
| theblazehen | cal_py: Good and you? | 19:46 |
| cal_py | good thanks theblazehen, group quiet? | 19:47 |
| theblazehen | cal_py: Not too much | 19:48 |
| cal_py | lol, theblazehen do you know any javascript? | 19:48 |
| theblazehen | cal_py: Enough to know I don't like it | 19:48 |
| cal_py | who does? LOL | 19:49 |
| theblazehen | Yeah lol | 19:49 |
| theblazehen | People who thought nodejs was a good idea when anything else still existed? | 19:49 |
| cal_py | LOL | 19:50 |
| cal_py | javascript is kicking my ass | 19:56 |
| kulelu88 | rm -rf /node/ | 19:56 |
| cal_py | lol | 19:57 |
| kulelu88 | are you a pythonista? | 19:57 |
| superfly | cal_py: what's the problem? | 19:57 |
| cal_py | can I show you superfly ? | 19:58 |
| kulelu88 | pastee.org cal_py | 19:58 |
| superfly | cal_py: sure | 19:58 |
| cal_py | btw hey superfly | 19:58 |
| superfly | cal_py: yes, use a pastebin of some sort | 19:58 |
| kulelu88 | or pastebin.snyman.info | 19:59 |
| kulelu88 | https://bin.snyman.info | 19:59 |
| kulelu88 | that's the right 1 | 19:59 |
| cal_py | ok let me show you something first | 20:00 |
| cal_py | http://preview.qaxawkzy7e6d2t9vhswkar3v1n8w7b9p705un9k2ojkbj4i.box.codeanywhere.com/# | 20:02 |
| cal_py | ok so this is my attemp to making a dashboard with cards, I've spent the whole day getting the JS to create multiple graphs, it works, everyone on the same page? | 20:03 |
| superfly | ooo, nice | 20:03 |
| cal_py | ok now here the problem | 20:04 |
| cal_py | load the page again and press "push!" | 20:04 |
| cal_py | apologies my typing is not so good tonight | 20:05 |
| superfly | the graphs don't load? | 20:06 |
| cal_py | exactly, google's chart API seems to only load when the pages loads which is a deal breaker, any suggestions? | 20:07 |
| kulelu88 | works for me after reloading and hitting push | 20:07 |
| cal_py | no way send a screenshot! | 20:07 |
| kulelu88 | should the cards load the first time I visit the site without clicking push? it shows blank for me everytime | 20:08 |
| cal_py | they should have charts in them | 20:08 |
| kulelu88 | I don't see any charts 0.o | 20:08 |
| cal_py | thats the issue, | 20:09 |
| kulelu88 | even the first time I load it | 20:09 |
| cal_py | change the code that it loads shaker_maker() on load, and the graphs will load | 20:09 |
| kulelu88 | you changed it? | 20:12 |
| cal_py | yep | 20:12 |
| cal_py | superfly, any comments? | 20:14 |
| cal_py | fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiixeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddd | 20:24 |
| cal_py | thanks u stackoverflow!!!!!!!! | 20:24 |
| kulelu88 | don't you know about stackoverflow? we are all stackoverflow programmers | 20:24 |
| superfly | it's how we do things... SDD Stackoverflow Driven Development | 20:25 |
| cal_py | hahahaha true kulelu88 | 20:25 |
| superfly | cal_py: why aren't you using jquery? | 20:25 |
| kulelu88 | which part is ass? going toilet? | 20:25 |
| superfly | you've got it, but you're not using it | 20:25 |
| cal_py | jquery is for modals and fancy buttons | 20:26 |
| cal_py | also | 20:26 |
| superfly | cal_py: and for DOM manipulation | 20:26 |
| cal_py | I used it for clearing the screen when I change the resolution | 20:27 |
| cal_py | exactly superfly | 20:27 |
| superfly | cal_py: but you're not doing it | 20:27 |
| superfly | "document.getElementById('cards').appendChild(new_card);" | 20:27 |
| superfly | $("#cards").append(new_card); | 20:28 |
| cal_py | jquery scares me | 20:28 |
| superfly | var new_card = $("<div>"); | 20:28 |
| cal_py | ive only been programming in JS for like 3 weeks now | 20:28 |
| superfly | ^^ like way less typing than your version | 20:28 |
| cal_py | but your right jquery is easier | 20:28 |
| kulelu88 | cal_py: what's your other IRC username? | 20:28 |
| superfly | scripting. programming means using a real programming language | 20:28 |
| superfly | *you're | 20:28 |
| cal_py | arts or cal_py | 20:28 |
| cal_py | my bad superfly scripting | 20:29 |
| superfly | ;-) | 20:29 |
| superfly | having said that, at work I'm writing an entire application in JavaScript | 20:29 |
| kulelu88 | so you're new here cal_py | 20:30 |
| cal_py | haha same, well a dashboard, what are you writing, if you can tell | 20:30 |
| kulelu88 | why are you rebuilding a dashboard cal_py ? there are many solutions out there already | 20:33 |
| superfly | cal_py: http://nomanini.com/ the big orange device and the web dashboard next to it? both, actually. | 20:34 |
| cal_py | because im fussy kulelu88, | 20:34 |
| superfly | but the web dashboard is written in JS | 20:34 |
| cal_py | are you using a framework? superfly | 20:34 |
| superfly | AngularJS | 20:35 |
| cal_py | look awesome superfly | 20:36 |
| cal_py | *looks | 20:36 |
| superfly | it is awesome | 20:36 |
| superfly | I was using jQuery for a project, and I wanted to do a lot of GUI stuff in it, and I didn't feel like all the boilerplate and manual labour. then I found AngularJS and I didn't have to care about that again | 20:37 |
| cal_py | question, is the styling of the dashboard part of angular? | 20:37 |
| kulelu88 | there should be a lib for it | 20:38 |
| kulelu88 | a lot of these JS frameworks inherit from JQuery | 20:38 |
| cal_py | haha seems like jquery is the root to all evil | 20:39 |
| superfly | negative, the love of money is the root of all evil. jQuery is awesome for its intended purpose | 20:39 |
| superfly | but application development is not what jQuery was intended for. it was intended for DOM manipulation | 20:40 |
| superfly | our app uses a bit of jQuery where Angular can't do what we want | 20:40 |
| kulelu88 | then again, the browser itself was never intended for heavy JS apps | 20:40 |
| superfly | and it also uses Bootstrap, which is a UI framework | 20:40 |
| cal_py | google's legends for charts suck! | 20:40 |
| kulelu88 | Are you using Google to render charts? | 20:41 |
| cal_py | yep | 20:41 |
| cal_py | end result http://imgur.com/a/SvSCf | 20:50 |
| cal_py | hey pavlushka | 21:15 |
| pavlushka | HEY cal_py | 21:16 |
| cal_py | how you doing? | 21:17 |
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