[06:23] morning superfly inetpro paddatrapper chesedo theblazehen and others [06:34] Morning [06:34] hi andrewlsd [06:34] Hi Kilos [06:35] Hey Kilos, andrewlsd [06:45] Good morning. [06:47] hi Kilos, andrewlsd, paddatrapper, dlPhreak [06:52] I probably should write a screen lock script for my desktop. Latest (well, not _latest_, but new) version removed DPMS support [06:52] Hi paddatrapper, theblazehen [06:52] And I need it to quit quassel so desktop doesn't read the notifications on desktop and not show laptop [06:53] theblazehen: write a haskel version of Quassel, call it Hassel [06:53] with ascii-art of David Hasselhof. [06:53] andrewlsd: heh. [06:53] ... Hassel: never log hoff. [06:53] chores wbb [06:54] Hmm. Smuxi does vertical channel list too [06:54] Might consider it [06:55] Hey theblazehen, dlPhreak [07:08] Hi [07:23] apt upgrade today = fun [07:26] good morning [07:31] hi christol, magespawn, Symmetria [07:35] Morning [07:56] hi Squirm [07:56] hi christol magespawn Squirm [07:56] hello [08:04] nice to see you back christol [08:05] yes. Had a catastrophic laptop failure. [08:06] forgot my charger at the office [08:06] :( [08:06] ai! [08:08] but i use linux on my laptop, so i was ok. [08:08] lol [08:47] * theblazehen gets around https://linx.home.theblazehen.com/jlg0izsl.jpeg <- that long when accessing laptop over ssh [08:47] No power saving tools either [08:57] `alias au="apt-get update` [08:57] andrewlsd: https://xkcd.com/1654/ close enough? [08:59] lol. [08:59] I'd prefer some || to be used. [09:00] but that is the general idea. [09:03] I'd say replace the '&' with ';'. If we're going with bad ideas, why not make sure you have the latest version of the software? [09:04] 3rd last line needs to use && at the end though [09:04] hmm, does that xkcd cover the new snappy package thingy :p [09:05] heya andrewlsd [09:05] hey magellanic. [09:05] anyone played with the snaps stuff, looks interesting [09:05] heya theblazehen [09:05] hi magellanic [09:05] Nope. Nor appimage, or what are they calling it now? flatpak? [09:06] .... appimage I've used. Seems to work the best (as in, it runs) [09:06] ... appimage has not sandboxing built in.... but I just run them via firejail instead. [09:07] omgubuntu.co.uk had a couple of posts about snaps. [09:08] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/snap-package-of-vlc-player-daily-build [09:08] * theblazehen remembers https://www.turnkeylinux.org/ [09:20] * andrewlsd also remembers TurnKeyLinux [09:21] 80MB of daily VLC snap downloaded... [09:21] out of 110MB [09:23] Wow. That's huge [09:36] Does anybody know of any Linux conferences in the near future arround gauteng? [09:37] christol: how near? [09:38] :) [09:38] August September [09:39] christol: 17 september? [09:40] Software freedom day [09:41] 17th is good. [09:52] we should have defcon sometime. [09:54] christol: That would be neat [09:54] I wonder what I'd contract if I brought my laptop and phone along [09:55] hags - like my brother says. [09:55] if i had the money, i would defnatly do one in JHB. [09:56] i'll call it christocon!!! [09:56] lol [09:56] heh [09:56] Would you risk going there with laptop etc? [09:57] not a laptop, but maybe a burner phone?? [09:58] Hmm. And chuck it when you leave? [09:58] no, i'll give it to someone, i do not like :o [10:01] heh [10:02] how does one get a Burner phone in SA [10:02] CNA [10:03] AppImage is awesome especially for getting something ancient to run on a newer distro [10:03] CNA [10:03] really [10:03] I thought you had to RICA a sim ..... [10:03] ra1v3n: You do [10:04] yes only the sim, phone differant story... [10:04] Or wait [10:04] Yeah, was gonna say that [10:04] well then its not exactly a burner now is it [10:04] ra1v3n: How so? [10:04] sure [10:04] Well, I guess govt can track you [10:04] your Identity will be linked to the sim [10:05] But not others [10:05] lol [10:05] +1 ra1v3n (re appimage + newer distro) [10:05] * theblazehen is gonna install GNU/Linux on a phone. Wonder what they'd do with that :) (ty andrewlsd!) [10:06] I have Cyanogen and tiny Linux on my old P100 [10:06] nice, theblazehen. [10:06] linux on everything [10:06] * theblazehen wonders which distro. Perhaps debian [10:06] Binary packages [10:06] * andrewlsd has linux on his toaster. [10:06] (not really) [10:06] Or gentoo, more packages because of source, and distcc [10:07] http://www.bbspot.com/news/2008/12/linux-on-a-potato.html [10:07] theblazehen: how long to compile a kernel on the 1Ghz arm processor with 512MB ram? [10:07] arch?? [10:07] two years - andrewlsd [10:07] lmao [10:08] andrewlsd: Well, gonna be hitting flash a lot. 3 hours on an x86_64 atom single core with hyperthreading at 1.6GHz, 2 GB RAM and a 5400 RPM HDD. That was back in 2012 though [10:08] Maybe if I use nfs/nbd [10:08] or iSCSI [10:08] lol. iSCSI over Wifi. [10:08] I think you _can_ use swap over iscsi.. [10:08] or iSCSI over USB. [10:08] andrewlsd: Nah. USB Gadget [10:09] Run it as usbnet or rndis [10:09] Put swap on a ramdisk over network [10:09] Hmm. Wifi and usb [10:10] http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit wanna do this sometime [10:10] > This results in a maximum bandwidth of about 300 kilobytes per second. [10:11] If storage is 200 KB/s, why even bother with the RAM? [10:13] theblazehen -- you could show us your project at christocon. [10:14] christol: Heh. yeah [10:14] * theblazehen needs to get a reverse proxy set up on dedicated server [10:14] Got stuff I want to write for blog. [10:14] Home saltstack setup [10:14] Finding security bug in http://rocket.chat [10:14] And other things I forgot [10:15] And phone thing. Yeah [10:15] * theblazehen will hopefully break https://github.com/Seitanas/kvm-vdi/ today also [10:16] Well, it's already broken I think [10:16] Just need to use it [10:16] How do people not see these security bugs... So easy, ffs! [10:16] Literally found it withing 4 min of looking for security stuff [10:16] And 6 min of looking at general code [10:18] have you looked at X2Go for your VDI [10:19] christol: I've used it, ran primary pc with it [10:19] Virtualized pc on an i3-2100 with IIRC 16 GB RAM [10:20] nice [10:20] connected with netbook mentioned earlier [10:20] Depending on wifi link it was either good performance or a little bit better than running on the netbook itself [10:20] good=4mbit, little better = 2 mbit/s [10:25] * theblazehen should probably get some sleep some time... Those sleep deprivation headaches are fun [10:26] sleep is good [10:28] It's good, yes. But it's really annoying when you're trying to get stuff done [10:29] * theblazehen finds 5-7 hours on week days, 10 on friday night, 8 on saturday night is _okay_ [10:39] hi Na3iL [10:39] hello theblazehen [10:42] hi jerit Na3iL [10:42] o/ Kilos jerit [10:43] hi thatgraemeguy [10:45] 'lo [10:53] ello Na3iL and Kilos and thatgraemeguy [11:09] . [11:20] [11:30] is it bad that its only now lunch time and already I want to kill people? [11:36] lol [11:39] jerit: Nope [11:39] Well, depends on who I guess [11:40] At the moment I'd decline your offer, but thanks anyway [11:40] :D [11:43] Am I still here [11:44] ra1v3n: It would seem so [11:44] wonderful [11:44] hello again all [11:46] does anyone know of an online store where I can get a good graphics card (prefer Nvidia) cheap [11:46] card for gaming or... [11:47] Mainly for my painting and 3d work [11:49] I wouldnt mind if it could handle games either :P [11:50] ra1v3n: I find wootware.com to be pretty cheap normally [11:50] ok I will have a look there thanx [11:51] My last machine died in a surge (I just love eskom) [11:52] so Im trying to build a i3 machine from scrap on the cheap just to carry on with my work for now [11:56] ra1v3n: Which i3? [11:57] its an older model .... slavged the mobo and cpu [12:00] the mobo is a H55M-P31 [12:02] i3 Socket 1156 [12:05] My goal is to get it up and running so I can get back to painting [12:07] how much ram [12:07] i3 should go well with 4g [12:07] my dualcore is great with 4g [12:08] 4g = 4gb? [12:08] ya that [12:08] gig [12:08] technically its 4 GB or gB [12:08] I have one 1gb card in there but have managed to source a matching 4gig pair [12:08] small be is bits [12:09] so 8 gig [12:09] that will ge great [12:09] so if the cards that a friend is sending me work it will have 8GB [12:09] plenty [12:09] so It needs HDD and A GPU now [12:09] what speed cpu [12:10] my dualcore is a 3.2GHZ cpu [12:11] and strangely its almost as fast as this i5 laptop [12:11] The machine itself works I booted it up with parted magic on a USB [12:11] then the internal graphics should be fine [12:11] I had that written down somewhere ... lol the "where" is the problem [12:12] dont fiddle with what works [12:12] ram is another matter [12:13] hey Kilos [12:13] hi arts [12:13] hows tricks? [12:13] ok ty and you? [12:14] good good, still using Kubuntu? [12:14] hmmm [12:14] of course [12:14] hahaha! [12:14] but 14.04 [12:15] y u no upgrade [12:15] well I did put my old GPU in there and it works ... but its old only has 256ram [12:15] will upgrade next month [12:15] but we will see how things go [12:16] cool, Kilos do you know of any channels that can help with javascript and css [12:17] arts try #javascript [12:17] oi [12:17] ty ra1v3n [12:17] oi? [12:17] :P [12:17] ai! [12:17] that seems to be a popular question of late [12:17] lol [12:18] they no want to help [12:19] know of any others? [12:21] all i find is http://irc.lc/freenode/javascript [12:44] darn [13:14] arts: what issue are you having? [13:15] hey magellanic [13:15] I'm trying to re adjust the heigt of my graph in chart.js [13:15] can I show you the site? [13:19] arts: have you been to www.chartjs.org/docs [13:19] yep [13:19] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38874529/chart-js-adjust-height-in-mobile-view [13:19] I've been trying to fix this thing the whole dau [13:19] dayu [13:19] *day [13:19] LOL [13:28] anyone else find this to be somewhat ironic: [13:28] vtop 1.0.1 stephen-stewart-blah - A graphical activity monitor for the command line. Written in node.js [13:28] a graphical activity monitor, for CLi, in Node. [13:32] arts: I have no experience with chartjs, but that SO post mentions that it does resize just is then too small to work with after the resize? [13:33] andrewlsd: weird yeah [13:33] yep [13:33] arts: when I load the link mentioned in the SO post, chrome dev console complains that bootstrap requires jquery, did you perhaps forget jquery? [13:34] oh I see you do have it [13:35] yeh, damn graphs [13:35] arts: load jquery before bootstrap [13:36] I will but there is no need for jquery theres nothing on the page tht uses it, but let me change it quick [13:36] bootstap uses it [13:39] yeah only for madals, dropdowns etc not chart.js [13:39] ah okay [13:40] madals... I'm losing my mind! I meand modals :X [13:41] so on mobile you want a larger height? [13:43] yeah, the bars are too short [13:48] in the docs they set the height of the canvas element [13:52] I'd look at the maintainAspectRatio option too [13:53] either my pc is confused about who I am [13:53] or I'm confused about who I am [13:54] O_o [13:54] I don't know which is actually the case her [13:54] here* [14:10] arts: setting a height on the canvas to test, works for me, it makes the chart longer. I guess you need some css and media queries to resize it dynamically? [14:44] nice on magellanic [14:45] paddatrapper, Kilos, I'll let you know when you can join #iterum again [14:50] superfly: ack [14:50] waiting for magespawn and inetpro to exit === urbanslug is now known as zipper [15:09] need to ge my attention superfly, exiting [15:10] i caould have been there for a long time [15:10] could [15:25] Kilos: ping? [15:25] where is Kilos? he's usually pretty responsive when he's online [15:26] here [15:26] superfly pong [16:18] Kilos, paddatrapper, magespawn, inetpro: you can join again, thank you [16:18] #iterum [16:18] ty superfly [16:18] thanks [16:19] waht were you doing superfly ? [16:19] magespawn: everyone had to exit so that I could join again and be given operator [16:19] yeah looks the same [16:19] then I registered the channel to myself [16:19] aha [16:20] painful work all that oping and stuff [16:22] ahh right [16:22] cool beans [16:24] good morning everyone [16:27] hellooooo inetpro [16:28] wb [16:40] Maaz coffee on [16:40] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [16:42] evening all [16:44] Coffee's ready for SEptic! [16:45] Maaz thanks [16:45] SEptic: Sure [16:48] hmm [17:02] hi sep [17:03] ai! [17:14] ahoy ZA! [17:14] hiya pavlushka [17:15] Kilos: i cant swim that well, so watching womens swimming on Olympics, :p [17:15] lol === eprbata is now known as pavlushka_ === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest46211 === Guest46211 is now known as eprbata [18:28] chat later home time. [18:29] go safe magespawn [18:29] ill only be here late tomorrow, another trip to pension offices, sigh [18:32] http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/researchers-crack-open-unusually-advanced-malware-that-hid-for-5-years/ [18:44] eish [18:44] super interesting [18:50] big brother is watching you [18:50] betcha its the nsa [18:50] or othe usa agency [18:51] nah ... i think its from the Guptas, it picks up on key words for available tenders [18:52] lol [18:56] 'Nited states of America! [18:57] yip i think so [18:57] lol [18:57] evening all [18:58] evening nsnzero ! [18:58] hi nsnzero [18:59] i always envy virus writers - the dedication to their cause is commendable but their product is disgraceful [19:00] hello Kilos [19:03] indeed [19:04] hmm, ok sure, some super clever software can nail air-gapped pcs and remain hidden for 5 years [19:04] makes me wonder what is lurking in apple's / microsoft's clouds [19:07] nsnzero: Yeah. I find http://corewar.co.uk/creeper.htm reaper really cool though [19:07] hi SEptic : the big corp are bound by law to turn over any and all data if required - so no need for virus or malware needed [19:07] nsnzero: http://corewar.co.uk/index.htm experience that feeling yourself :) [19:12] hey nsnzero : very true [19:16] hi theblazehen : is that like hacking in the movies ? furious throwing of commands at the prompt to out wit your opponent ? [19:17] nsnzero: No. Pre programmed programs [19:17] Try and write over memory etc [19:19] http://antru.ru/ [19:19] http://www.tacticalneuronics.com/content/main.asp check these too [19:19] Sites really need an update for 4k displays.. [19:20] i will give it a try [19:22] good night guys [19:33] night all. sleep tight [19:33] night Kilos [19:37] gnyt all [19:42] Hey guys! [19:43] hey cal_py [19:46] how are you theblazehen [19:46] cal_py: Good and you? [19:47] good thanks theblazehen, group quiet? [19:48] cal_py: Not too much [19:48] lol, theblazehen do you know any javascript? [19:48] cal_py: Enough to know I don't like it [19:49] who does? LOL [19:49] Yeah lol [19:49] People who thought nodejs was a good idea when anything else still existed? [19:50] LOL [19:56] javascript is kicking my ass [19:56] rm -rf /node/ [19:57] lol [19:57] are you a pythonista? [19:57] cal_py: what's the problem? [19:58] can I show you superfly ? [19:58] pastee.org cal_py [19:58] cal_py: sure [19:58] btw hey superfly [19:58] cal_py: yes, use a pastebin of some sort [19:59] or pastebin.snyman.info [19:59] https://bin.snyman.info [19:59] that's the right 1 [20:00] ok let me show you something first [20:02] http://preview.qaxawkzy7e6d2t9vhswkar3v1n8w7b9p705un9k2ojkbj4i.box.codeanywhere.com/# [20:03] ok so this is my attemp to making a dashboard with cards, I've spent the whole day getting the JS to create multiple graphs, it works, everyone on the same page? [20:03] ooo, nice [20:04] ok now here the problem [20:04] load the page again and press "push!" [20:05] apologies my typing is not so good tonight [20:06] the graphs don't load? [20:07] exactly, google's chart API seems to only load when the pages loads which is a deal breaker, any suggestions? [20:07] works for me after reloading and hitting push [20:07] no way send a screenshot! [20:08] should the cards load the first time I visit the site without clicking push? it shows blank for me everytime [20:08] they should have charts in them [20:08] I don't see any charts 0.o [20:09] thats the issue, [20:09] even the first time I load it [20:09] change the code that it loads shaker_maker() on load, and the graphs will load [20:12] you changed it? [20:12] yep [20:14] superfly, any comments? [20:24] fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiixeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddd [20:24] thanks u stackoverflow!!!!!!!! [20:24] don't you know about stackoverflow? we are all stackoverflow programmers [20:25] it's how we do things... SDD Stackoverflow Driven Development [20:25] hahahaha true kulelu88 [20:25] cal_py: why aren't you using jquery? [20:25] which part is ass? going toilet? [20:25] you've got it, but you're not using it [20:26] jquery is for modals and fancy buttons [20:26] also [20:26] cal_py: and for DOM manipulation [20:27] I used it for clearing the screen when I change the resolution [20:27] exactly superfly [20:27] cal_py: but you're not doing it [20:27] "document.getElementById('cards').appendChild(new_card);" [20:28] $("#cards").append(new_card); [20:28] jquery scares me [20:28] var new_card = $("

"); [20:28] ive only been programming in JS for like 3 weeks now [20:28] ^^ like way less typing than your version [20:28] but your right jquery is easier [20:28] cal_py: what's your other IRC username? [20:28] scripting. programming means using a real programming language [20:28] *you're [20:28] arts or cal_py [20:29]