[00:01] <ADY_> K1l i already typed LSPCI. which is the video card model?
[00:07] <ADY_> UNIGNORE k1l_
[00:11] <ADY_> Hi.  i tried to update my software, forme 14 to 16. Now i restarted and it says that the system is running in low graphics mode. I can not work on it at all
[00:16] <Fr_Dae> hi, how to signal on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ he have take a error ?
[00:16] <Hydr0p0nX> what error ?
[00:17] <Fr_Dae> the 16.04 is on 16.04.1 folder and 16.04.1 on 16.04 folder
[00:17] <Fr_Dae> i see that on Lubuntu
[00:18] <crn595> Test
[00:19] <Hydr0p0nX> Fr_Dae - looks like they both link to the 16.04.1 directory
[00:20] <Hydr0p0nX> landing page at list, which then links both releases below
[00:21] <Hydr0p0nX> Fr_Dae - you might try one of the methods explained here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Support
[00:23] <emusic> Does only Ubuntu Server have ZFS support built in?
[00:24] <giovoni> hello
[00:32] <ADY_>  i tried to update my software, forme 14 to 16. Now i restarted and it says that the system is running in low graphics mode. I can not work on it at all
[00:33] <Hydr0p0nX> ADY_: what kind of graphics card is it?
[00:34] <ADY_> IS the VGA?
[00:34] <df__> I'm trying to set up auto-complete for headers but gcc -xc++ -E -v -﻿  in terminal don't show me the headers path , and nothing in /usr/local/include/   any idea ?
[00:35] <df__> set up auto-complete in emacs  ***correct
[00:36] <ADY_> if it is the VGA, is Intel corporation 2nd generatuon core processor family integrated graphics controller (rev 09)
[00:45] <fiferdale> unable to get to bois on toshiba laptop with only 16.04.1 loaded
[00:45] <fiferdale> bios
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> fiferdale: If you hit "esc" while powering on the machine, you should be able to get into the BIOS
[00:47] <fiferdale> blows right by it. Have tried f2, esc, f12. unable to change boot to usb or dvd
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> fiferdale: You have to be hitting it while the power comes one - repeatedly....tapping on ESC...
[00:49] <fiferdale> will try thanks for the help
[00:54] <liquidswordsman> guys, I'm kind of a linux idiot. I have a question, know the solution, but not how to do it. I'm having problems with the angular cli, the error message is ng is not a command. the cli is installed globally, and it seems to be generally solvable by creating a symlink, but I don't know where to find globally installed node modules and how to make a symlink
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> Not familiar with "angular cli" - have you Googled the issue?
[00:59] <freefall> hello
[01:06] <docmur> I moved three drives from an old server, which were setup via LVM, into my desktop computer.  The computer can see the drives but how do I mount the old LVM's?
[01:06] <rfleming> docmur, you get anything when you run lvmdiskscan?
[01:07] <docmur> yep 2 LVM Physical Volumes and then it lists the paritions ie /dev/sdb4 and /dev/sda1
[01:07] <lisa_> There's got to be a simple way to have a cloud server re-direct a spacific request... maybe NAT?
[01:08] <rfleming> any /dev/dm-x partitions?
[01:08] <rfleming> lisa_, I'm sure there is... but if it's cloud-based, then it would all depend on what they've opened up in their API
[01:08] <docmur> Nope, just checked
[01:08] <lisa_> I have control of the cloud server
[01:09] <rfleming> docmur, anything show up on lvdisplay?
[01:09] <lisa_> I'd just like the cloud server to redirect my sip requests to my original sip server (that is blocked by my isp)
[01:09] <lisa_> I'm just not good with using iptables and NAT
[01:09] <ADY_>  i tried to update my software, forme 14 to 16. Now i restarted and it says that the system is running in low graphics mode. I can not work on it at all
[01:09] <docmur> Yep, now I remember how I got this working last time the server crashed!
[01:09] <docmur> Thanks :)
[01:10] <rfleming> docmur, no problem-o ;)  Happy LVMing
[01:10] <rfleming> ADY_, what graphics card do you have?
[01:13] <rfleming> ADY_, http://askubuntu.com/a/218095 may solve your problem if you're using an nVidia or ATI proprietary driver
[01:13] <milestone234> anyone know when hexchat-otr will be available to download from apt-get install?
[01:15] <rfleming> milestone234, looks like it'll be in Yakkety Yak
[01:15] <milestone234> what does that mean?
[01:15] <rfleming> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hexchat-otr
[01:15] <rfleming> 16.10
[01:15] <milestone234> oh okay
[01:15] <ADY_> thank you rfleming
[01:15] <milestone234> when is that scheduled to come out?
[01:15] <rfleming> ADY_, You're very welcome
[01:16] <rfleming> milestone234, Ubuntu version numbers are based on YEAR.MONTH format, so that would be 16.10 or October 2016
[01:16] <netham45> milestone234, the version numbers are year.month, 16.04 came out in april, 16.10 is October.
[01:16] <milestone234> nice
[01:16] <milestone234> thanks
[01:16] <rfleming> No problem
[01:18] <ADY_> rfleming, i didnt work because i don have the otion to boot with the recovery mode
[01:19] <rfleming> ADY_, you have to boot and hold SHIFT
[01:22] <ADY_> yes, I can see the menu, but i only have 3 options: advanced option for ubuntu, and two of memory test
[01:22] <netham45> Recovery mode is under advanced options
[01:23] <freefall1> hello.. need help with a tv tuner
[01:23] <milestone234> is there a way to configure ubuntu to look more like the windows set up
[01:24] <freefall1> milestone.. that what kde is
[01:24] <milestone234> how do i get that?
[01:25] <bazhang> what tuner freefall1 , is it hauppage or what
[01:25] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop package milestone234
[01:25] <freefall1> look up how to change how to install kde.. otherwise you need to install kubuntu i think
[01:25] <freefall1> bazhang.. that the problem i really dont know who the maker is..
[01:26] <bazhang> freefall1, there's a metapackage to install kde, see what I just posted
[01:26] <milestone234> is this supposed to modify ubuntu or does this turn it into kubuntu?
[01:26] <bazhang> milestone234, beceomes kubuntu as you select in the login
[01:26] <milestone234> k
[01:26] <milestone234> thanks
[01:27] <bazhang> freefall1, you absolutel y need to find out what tv tuner for that
[01:27] <freefall1> i know it has a cx2883 chipset if i recall it right
[01:27] <bazhang> freefall1, are you trying to set up mythtv or what
[01:28] <bazhang> !myth
[01:28] <bazhang> ubottu, mythtv
[01:28] <freefall1> yep try mythtv.. tried install cx23xxx firmware drivers
[01:28] <bazhang> see the channel above freefall1
[01:29] <freefall1> try one other tuner an no good..
[01:29] <milestone234> is kubuntu update about the same time as ubuntu?
[01:30] <freefall1> it was pulled from a pc some time ago forget what model number the pc was but it was running win8 on it.
[01:31] <freefall1> milestone.. i run lubuntu.. it updated just like other ubuntu when updates are done..
[01:31] <bazhang> milestone234, some parts are, it's all the same repos, some parts of plasma may not be
[01:31] <bazhang> freefall1, you saw the channel I pointed you to, right?
[01:31] <freefall1> baz yea..
[01:31] <rfleming> milestone what are you using?
[01:32] <rfleming> milestone234, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu-mate?
[01:33] <freefall1> rfleming i think he said just ubuntu
[01:33] <YankDownUnder> (Too bad that no one's thought about an E version of Ubuntu) ;) IMHO
[01:33] <freefall1> but he want it like windows
[01:34] <rfleming> YankDownUnder, that's what remixes are for :)
[01:34] <rfleming> ... and arch
[01:35] <bazhang> there is no official flavour of e17, you can certainly add it though
[01:35] <bazhang> ubottu enlightenment
[01:35] <rfleming> milestone234, Noobslab is pretty good at posting themes
[01:35] <rfleming> milestone234, http://www.noobslab.com/2015/09/do-you-like-windows-10-look-but-love.html
[01:36] <YankDownUnder> Yersh...running E right now...(it doesn't freak out with multiple monitors as much as everything else does) ;)
[01:36] <rfleming> milestone234, Disclaimer... do this at your risk.
[01:37] <rfleming> YankDownUnder, if you're going to run E, you might as well just go to i3 :)
[01:38] <YankDownUnder> rfleming: I'm hard headed...I like my 'buntu base...
[01:39] <rfleming> YankDownUnder, sudo apt install i3 :)
[01:39] <rfleming> YankDownUnder, I was kinda teasing as it's a twm
[01:41] <YankDownUnder> rfleming: I *do* have olvwm and WindowMaker...it wouldn't be much to have me installing i3...or AfterStep...or FvWM/FvWM2...(like the old days...)
[01:42] <rfleming> or one of the many other wm's ending in box :)
[01:44] <YankDownUnder> rfleming: Nah...did Blackbox, Openbox, Fluxbox long ago...if I really want "nostalgia", olvwm or WM is great enough...kinda would like to get the original versions of XFce - the one's that still looked like CDE...
[01:46] <milestone234> rfleming thanks for the info..the previous question was concerning the difference in the updates between ubuntu and kubuntu if there is any?
[01:47] <rfleming> milestone234, the difference is the same as the difference between an apple and a pineapple
[01:47] <rfleming> at the core they are the same (a fruit) but they're completely different
[01:47] <milestone234> rfleming so are the updates scheduled different
[01:48] <milestone234> or are they really different in that area
[01:48] <bazhang> rfleming, the updates are the same, apart from some very kde spcific ones
[01:48] <milestone234> i like that link about the them
[01:48] <milestone234> so i can simply run those commands to get that theme on ubuntu?
[01:48] <milestone234> theme
[01:48] <bazhang> milestone234, kde is not a theme
[01:48] <rfleming> kubuntu is based off of the KDE desktop environment, while Ubuntu uses Unity and Gnome
[01:49] <rfleming> milestone234, see: http://askubuntu.com/a/699
[01:49] <milestone234> i hear you bazhang but we were talking about two things at once :P one was about xubuntu and the question i asked this time was about this http://www.noobslab.com/2015/09/do-you-like-windows-10-look-but-love.html
[01:50] <milestone234> i was asking can i simply run those commands to get that done
[01:50] <rfleming> milestone234, yes
[01:50] <milestone234> nice
[01:50] <rfleming> milestone234, word of caution
[01:50] <milestone234> is that is still ubuntu with a windows theme right?
[01:50] <rfleming> don't go mixing DE's
[01:50] <bazhang> milestone234, noobslab is something not from here, thats a one hundred percent on your own deal
[01:50] <rfleming> if you're using Ubuntu, stick with it
[01:50] <milestone234> what is DE im new to linux :P
[01:51] <rfleming> milestone234, DE is Desktop Environment
[01:51] <rfleming> milestone234, OK.  I'm going to give you a quick lesson here
[01:51] <YankDownUnder> "Deranged Environment" :)
[01:51] <milestone234> bazhang so do you recommend kubuntu versus that theme
[01:51] <milestone234> ?
[01:51] <bazhang> !rute | milestone234 have a read first
[01:51] <rfleming> in Windows, or on Apple, you have only one DE and one WM... in Linux you've got lots :)
[01:52] <rfleming> there have been as many flame wars over DE's and WM's as there have distros
[01:52] <milestone234> :P
[01:52] <bazhang> milestone234, I recommend nothing, except you doing a lot of reading first on what the very basics are, such as 'what is a DE' , see the links above
[01:52]  * rfleming agrees with bazhang 
[01:53] <milestone234> bazhang rfleming this isn't meant to be mean but is this a way of making something simple complicate like linux somtimes does :P
[01:53] <bazhang> milestone234, please have a complete read of all those links provided
[01:53] <rfleming> milestone234: that depends.  Do you like being told what to do and how to use your computer, or do you like choices?
[01:54] <bazhang> !manual | milestone234 and this too, finally
[01:54] <milestone234> rfleming i guess what im asking is the real simple explanation and not the looooooooong explanation :P
[01:54] <bazhang> thats three sets of very important links to get reading milestone234
[01:54] <rfleming> Linux is about choice... and embracing differences of opinion.  With Windows and Apple, you don't have that choice at all.  You get what you get... too bad if you don't like it *cough* Windows Vista *cough*
[01:55] <milestone234> bazhang im not that new to linux i have used ubuntu before.
[01:55] <MannyLNJ> doing apt-get update then apt-get upgrade I got a message about grub-probe: error: unknown file system. My ssh dropped and when i reconnected it shows 79 packages to update and 45 security packages. is it safe to re-issue the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade command?
[01:55] <bazhang> milestone234, thats super, this channel is not a polling one, of what is best etc, it's strictly technical support
[01:56] <milestone234> bazhang i understand
[01:56] <bazhang> you could try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for that milestone234
[01:56] <milestone234> thanks
[01:56] <bazhang> welcome
[01:56] <YankDownUnder> milestone234: What it all boils down to is finding something that is ergonomically best suited to your tastes and practices...all about choice...all about usability.
[01:56] <rfleming> I thought linux was about disagreement :)
[01:56] <rfleming> j/k
[01:57] <YankDownUnder> rfleming: Choices and disagreement (in a nice socially acceptable manner)(which obviously does NOT happen in real life)
[02:04] <MannyLNJ> doing apt-get update then apt-get upgrade I got a message about grub-probe: error: unknown file system. My ssh dropped and when i reconnected it shows 79 packages to update and 45 security packages. is it safe to re-issue the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade command?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Yes safe to run update/upgrade as many times and as often as you want .
[02:07] <Dark_Blue_Shark> sup any Linux pros on here?
[02:07] <x3mboy> Dark_Blue_Shark, what do you mean?
[02:07] <Dark_Blue_Shark> sooo I have a small problem
[02:07] <Dark_Blue_Shark> The Fn key signal isn't processed to the software right?
[02:08] <Dark_Blue_Shark> Just to the microcontroller of the keyboard?
[02:08] <Dark_Blue_Shark> cause xev inst showing me any key bindings when pressing Fn and f5 f6 which is brightness up and down
[02:08] <Dark_Blue_Shark> is it possible that my keyboard is broken? lol
[02:11] <Hypothermic> Dark_Blue is this a laptop?
[02:12] <skiboy> So I feel uncertain about snap packages on the Ubuntu desktop, and their possible benefits.  Could someone who supports snap packages tell me why they would view it as a positive feature?
[02:13] <bazhang> #snappy skiboy
[02:13] <bazhang> thats the channel for it skiboy
[02:13] <skiboy> thanks
[02:14] <junior> oi
[02:15] <Dark_Blue_Shark> yes it's a laptop
[02:15] <danny_> what exactly will I lose if I switch desktop environments?  Will I lose default applications?
[02:15] <Dark_Blue_Shark> no
[02:15] <Dark_Blue_Shark> u won't lose anything
[02:15] <node9> hey. Having a bit of an issue. I set up netatalk on my ubuntu server and everything was working fine. Had to reboot the box and it wasn't working. As I tried to run sudo systemctl start netatalk, it gives me "Failed to start netatalk.service: Unit netatalk.service is not loaded properly: Invalid argument.".. In systemctl status netatalk.service it says - netatalk.service: Service lacks both ExecStart= and ExecStop=
[02:15] <node9>  setting. Refusing.
[02:16] <node9> not sure where do I go from there
[02:17] <danny_> Ok, is i3 good for general use?
[02:18] <rfleming> danny_, sure
[02:18] <Dark_Blue_Shark> yes i3 is awesome
[02:19] <Dark_Blue_Shark> or xmonad
[02:19] <danny_> rfleming, do you have to use it with something like compton to prevent screen tearing?
[02:20] <danny_> i3 or i3 gaps?
[02:22] <Hypothermic> Dark_Blue_Shark - it's likely there was an application suit that was tying the FN key to the functions (like brighten and dim the screen).  What type of Laptop? You might find a work around or a software package from the manufacturer (which is rare) that would restore the functionality.
[02:22] <Dark_Blue_Shark> so it's not a hardware issue?
[02:22] <rfleming> danny_, if you want compositing you'll probably want to use compton
[02:23] <danny_> rfleming, what exactly does that mean?
[02:24] <nm636> Dark_Blue_Shark: for what it's worth, I recently installed the latest version of ubuntu and my fn key on my laptop works (although the brightness keys are default and fn activates the F keys)
[02:24] <Hypothermic> Well, not for certain.  Where thos FN keys ever working in linux?
[02:24] <Dark_Blue_Shark> yes xd
[02:24] <Dark_Blue_Shark> lol
[02:25] <Hypothermic> Ahh, so they just suddenly stopped working? Did you update packages?
[02:25] <Hypothermic> IE Did you update packages and it stopped working.
[02:28] <skiboy> #snappy is pretty much dead right now
[02:33] <schemanic_> Hi, I'm reading about multiple environments at https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/states/top.html, and I'm confused by the part where it talks about the top.sls file after creating a dev, qa, and prod environment
[02:34] <schemanic_> You'd think that there would be separate top.sls files under /srv/salt/dev, /srv/salt/qa/, and /srv/salt/prod, but the example lists one without indicating if it meant that it's the 'normal' one under /srv/salt
[02:34] <schemanic_> can anyone comment?
[02:40] <YankDownUnder> schemanic_: I understand what they're getting at - instead of physically creating structures that are "defined" for a particular environment, the "definition" of the environments is all setup via the text files - and no physical changes are required for the overall environment.
[02:41] <schemanic_> YankDownUnder, yeah. I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was posting in #ubuntu.
[02:42] <schemanic_> I'm teaching myself this configuration management system for work and its slow going
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> schemanic_: Patience and time...step by step, and read every word...best way to digest it, bro.
[02:45] <schemanic_> What's keeping you up? Or is it even late where you are?
[02:45] <YankDownUnder> It's lunch time here...ha.
[02:46] <schemanic_> Going on 11pm here
[02:47] <YankDownUnder> I'm already in Wednesday, mate...and when I'm done - which will be early enough - going to watch SS at the movies...nice to do something cool for Wednesday, eh.
[02:56] <danny_> Any tips on using i3? popular configs to copy or something?
[02:57] <rypervenche> danny_: With i3 you can use the default and customize it as you need it.
[02:58] <rfleming> danny_, you could always check out git.io/.files
[02:58] <rfleming> danny_, err... dotfiles.github.io
[02:58] <rypervenche> danny_: I suggest reading the user manual through to see what is possible, and add the code that you want for each part. It's a little long, but it has the best infomation and it's pretty easy to read.
[02:59] <danny_> rypervenche, ok, I'll read it tommorow, as it is in the default state it is worse than my mate config
[03:00] <moestevens> I'd actually recommend try your hand at customizing i3 from scratch once you understand how it works and tried out some configs
[03:01] <danny_> moestevens, any reason besides purity?  I don't feel the need to know everything about it
[03:03] <moestevens> Mostly purity and having it customized right down to your needs. Cleaner file too, but it doesn't really matter unless you're sharing.
[03:04] <guest12345> Hello World! Testing IRC in Bash on Ubuntu on Windows
[03:04] <danny_> moestevens, Ok, I'll save it for a weekend project some time. I'm just seeing if I like tiling window manager at all right now
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !testing | guest12345, we see you
[03:05] <moestevens> danny_: Have fun! :) i3 also does floating windows too if you set it too if you didn't know.
[03:05] <moestevens> s/2nd too/to
[03:06] <danny_> moestevens, oh good, It does seem like it would be necissary every now and then, I'm glad I'll have the option
[03:10] <MannyLNJ>  Bashing-om I was concened about the Grub error it displayed
[03:12] <ubone> anyone running ubuntu on a pi2
[03:12] <cfhowlett> ubone,  avoid wasting time with "anyone ...?" question structure.  state YOUR issues and details
[03:13] <ubone> no issues, just wondering if the net install for arm7 would work
[03:13] <cfhowlett> ubone, there is a pi channel that would be best answer that ..
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !pi
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !arm
[03:14] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, after doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade when  I ssh back in it still shows 70 packages to update and 45 security updates. Why?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Can have the system check grub .. Do you know your partitioning ? is this a raid and or LVM set up ?
[03:16] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, How do I check grub? No I don't know my partitiong and no there is no RAID or LVM
[03:18] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Still booted ? show ' sudo fisk -lu ' on a pastebin . The command : ' grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX ' where the 'X" in sdX is a,b c depending on the target for grub .
[03:19] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I am ssh'ing in again on a second session
[03:20] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Should serve our purpose .
[03:21] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, looks lie /sdb1 is where the Os is it shows Linux as the system then a second one as Extended and a third as Linux Swap / Solaris
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[03:22] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: sda drive is what ? We want to be certain of the target .
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[03:22] <anubiss> what is watchdog? is someone spying my pc?
[03:22] <amir107> ok
[03:22] <amir107> sorry
[03:22] <amir107> chill out man
[03:22] <danny_> are the files in ~/.config/autostart specific to mate?
[03:22] <cfhowlett> anubiss, more details
[03:23] <anubiss> my ps ax i did and watchdog process had changed its place
[03:23] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, no /sda that I can see. How do I put the output to pastebin?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> man run ' sudo fdisk -lu | nc termbin.com 9999 ' Will give back a url with that file . pass the link back here .
[03:27] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, http://termbin.com/7oj3
[03:30] <Backwards> MannyLNJ are you running Win95 It looks like?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: I do not know why the drives are not in alpha order . nor why a 1st disk is not seen .. but as is now .. agreed that linux is sdb1. Ya want to take that wild stab without knowing why there is no 'sda' drive ?
[03:31] <MannyLNJ> Backwards, there may be a 95 partition om the old laptop. The system has a busted screen and it's in the basement. I can borrow an external monitor if I brick the system.
[03:34] <workstation> buenas
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !es | workstation
[03:34] <Backwards> Win95 doesn't handle more than so many MEGS of RAM. It inherently was created that way. Also Win95 was designed for about 4.5 G RAM and for Legacy hardware.
[03:35] <chris_> My screen is completely dark when I log in after waking the computer from suspension
[03:36] <chris_> does anyone else have the same issue?
[03:36] <Backwards> Also lots of the older BIOS's cannot handle more than 4.5 gigs. That's it. You can put a 40 gig hard drive on an old Legacy machine and it will only read 4.5 gigs of the hard drive.
[03:36] <MannyLNJ> Backwards, My wife says the laptop had XP on it not Windows 95
[03:37] <Backwards> MannyLNG XP means that it is an upgraded version but. RAM is paramount.
[03:37] <MannyLNJ> Backwards, and Bashing-om the grub command failed with errors and embedding not being supported
[03:38] <MannyLNJ> Backwards, It has 4 GB of ram
[03:39] <Backwards> MannyLNJ I always encourage my customers to clean the hard drive completely i.e., delete everything and do a DOD erasure and start new. Format it and that will make your day.
[03:40] <Backwards> If all kinds of crap is on your hard drive, your kernel or OS will keep looking at it for no reason.
[03:40] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Correct .. you do not want to emned to the partition .. eun the command as ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb ' As we want to install to the device .
[03:41] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I issued the ' sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb ' command and it appeared to have completed.
[03:42] <Backwards> I installed Win95 on a good Computer with Virtual Box and it runs slow. Win95 is not made for high end machines. The same principle applies here.
[03:42] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: All I know to do now is cross fingers and reboot .. see what happens . Should be good .
[03:42] <Obadiah_> ubuntu is lagging badly please help
[03:42] <ubone> or is it not supported by the guest additions
[03:42] <cfhowlett> Obadiah_, details??
[03:43] <Obadiah_> when i run top cpu usage is high
[03:43] <Obadiah_> especially for friefox
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Obadiah_, normal.  firefox is hungry.  more tabs = more demand
[03:43] <Backwards> Obadiah is your machine a 32 or 64 bit  box?
[03:43] <Obadiah_> yeah but only pone tab open takes 80%?
[03:44] <Obadiah_> what is the commands and ill paste u all the output
[03:44] <Obadiah_> i dont know
[03:44] <cfhowlett> !details | Obadiah_,
[03:44] <ubone> could be JS, ff should be idle
[03:45] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, 'sudo shudown -r now' command issued, SSH session closed. System no longer responds to Ping so I know it;s rebooting.
[03:46] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Come on 'buntu babby ! Boot please .
[03:46] <Obadiah_> it takes like 10 mins to boot
[03:46] <Obadiah_> cfhowlett: i dontknow the commands for that stuff. i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[03:47] <cfhowlett> Obadiah_, you are dropping bread crumbs here.  what are your system specifications?  which ubuntu version?  how much ram do you have.  answer ALL in one thread.
[03:49] <Backwards> Obadiah type in this command:    uname -i       or      uname -a
[03:50] <Backwards> It will tell if your machine is 64 or 32 bit.
[03:51] <Backwards> After that have another beer.
[03:52] <Obadiah_> Backwards: 64 bit
[03:52] <Backwards> Obadiah and it takes 10 minutes to boot?
[03:52] <Obadiah_> yeah
[03:52] <Backwards> That is rediculous.
[03:52] <Obadiah_> i know
[03:53] <Obadiah_> sonmething is wrong
[03:53] <Backwards> Perhaps you installed an i386 kernel. Find a 64 bit kernel.
[03:53] <Obadiah_> how can i tell what kind of kernel i installed
[03:53] <Backwards> Do you your homework.
[03:55] <tgm4883> Backwards: not very helpful
[03:55] <tgm4883> Obadiah_: 16.04?
[03:55] <Emanuel> Bashing-om, I lost my internet but that was not related to the system. I ssh'd in and it shows on 14.04.5 LTS with 0 packages to update and 0 security updates
[03:55] <usbdriver> hi i need help figering whats wrong with my usb drive. i instaled debian jessie into it but its acting weird. i dont knopw what to do anymore. the complete description is in http://pastebin.com/X5KygF9T
[03:55] <Obadiah_> tgm4883: yes
[03:56] <Emanuel> Bashing-om, it says I can upgrade to 16.04.1
[03:56] <tgm4883> Obadiah_: systemd-analyze blame
[03:56] <tgm4883> Obadiah_: that will tell you what is taking so long
[03:56] <cfhowlett> !debian | usbdriver,
[03:56] <Emanuel> usbdriver, I think you may get better help in a debian channel not ubuntu
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Emanuel: I have a short attention span . what is the background here ?
[03:57] <usbdriver> its more a usb issue that operating system
[03:57] <Backwards> Obadiah use this command:  lsb_release -a
[03:57] <usbdriver> i have  similar problems with ubuntu
[03:58] <usbdriver> take a look  at fdisk as an exemple
[03:58] <Emanuel> [Question] If I want to run an IMAP mail server to fetch mail from my mail provider who only supports POP (different than ISP)  what is a simple one to install? All mail will still go out through my mail provider
[03:58] <usbdriver>  my drive is 16 gb and  fdisk show 2 partitions with 10gb
[03:58] <cfhowlett> usbdriver, fault USB.
[03:58] <Emanuel> Bashing-om, issue before was apt-get update && apt-get upgrade was failing because of a grub issue. You resolved that.
[03:59] <usbdriver> cfhowlett:  can this be fixed?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> usbdriver, easier/saner/quicker to just replace the USB has been my experience
[03:59] <Bashing-om> Emanuel: OH than you are also MannyLNJ ??
[03:59] <Emanuel> Bashing-om, Yes, i didn't reqlie the nic changed
[04:00] <usbdriver> gees  this usb drive is recent
[04:00] <usbdriver> i think might be somting with formating  the drive
[04:01] <usbdriver> the mix between mbr  and dos
[04:01] <Obadiah_> no lsb modules are available
[04:01] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: As to accepting the update on a server install .. read the release notes for 16.04 carefully ..,. systemd is different and can wreck your scripts .
[04:02] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I'll stick on 14 for now and work on fixing the VPN issue I had previously and finding a simple mail server
[04:03] <Backwards> Obadiah each rendition of a Linux kernel is not the same. Some kernels have drivers that you need and some don't care about it. If you are running a Linux Server, you don
[04:03] <Backwards> t need a monitor.
[04:04] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Good deal .. 14.04 is solid and supported 'til April of 2019 . There is no rush here to upgrade to 16.04 .
[04:04] <usbdriver> my quantion now is can i  make my pc usb drive  without mbr?
[04:04] <Backwards> Also if you are running a headless server, you don't need mouse drivers or monitor drivers or keyboard drivers.
[04:04] <cfhowlett> usbdriver, are you talking about a simple USB stick or an actuall usb Hard drive?  if so, yeah, the formatting would be incorrect.
[04:04] <usbdriver> cfhowlett:  usb stick
[04:04] <cfhowlett> usbdriver, try a different stuck.
[04:04] <Obadiah_> makes sense
[04:04] <cfhowlett> *stick
[04:05] <Obadiah_> what does that have to do with ubuntu lagging
[04:05] <MannyLNJ> Backwards, yep running headless.
[04:05] <usbdriver> i have a nother stick same brand working  with kali linux
[04:05] <usbdriver> works fine
[04:05] <cfhowlett> usbdriver, write your ubuntu to the other stick and test it
[04:05] <usbdriver> disk utility showed formated  as mbr while my faulty wast formated
[04:06] <Backwards> Obadiah it has everything to do with it. If your boxen is lagging on boot, you have other issues. Perhaps your BIOS is set incorrectly. Have you looked at your BIOS?
[04:06] <Obadiah_> nope
[04:06] <Obadiah_> im a newb
[04:06] <usbdriver> its not ubuntu or debian issue its usb stick formating or bugg
[04:06] <usbdriver> i have tried with ubuntu and crashed also
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !who
[04:06] <Backwards> Check your BIOS settings.
[04:06] <turtles> wha
[04:07] <turtles> hello every one that i don't know
[04:08] <usbdriver> i might have messed someting in formating usb stick
[04:08] <Backwards> Obadiah, when I was teaching A+ classes I had a student that played around with the BIOS settings and it took a whole week to boot up Win98. I fixed the problem in 10 seconds by restoring the BIOS settings to factory settings. The guy shut off the Plug and Play settings in the BIOS.
[04:09] <Obadiah_> its bnot just lagging on boot
[04:09] <Obadiah_> it lags everywhere
[04:09] <Obadiah_> badly all the time
[04:09] <Obadiah_> heavy cpu load
[04:09] <Obadiah_> 1.8 ghz 4gig ram
[04:09] <MannyLNJ> [Question] How do I get the .ovpn file I just made on the Ubuntu system to my Windows system?
[04:10] <Backwards> Obadiah  you mentioned that you have a 64 bit machine. Install a different Kernel.
[04:10] <Obadiah_> okay
[04:10] <Backwards> I think that you installed an i386 kernel on a 64 bit machine. That won't work.
[04:11] <Obadiah_> Linux obadiah245680-HP-Compaq-6830s 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:12] <Backwards> x86 is 32 bit Obadiah.
[04:12] <Obadiah_> oh :/
[04:12] <Backwards> It is i386
[04:13] <Backwards> Wipe the disk clean and install a 64 bit kernel instead.
[04:13] <Obadiah_> okay. any suggestions which one
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Obadiah_: Correction there .. that is a 64 bit install .
[04:14] <Obadiah_> okay so i need a new kernel right
[04:14] <Backwards> My choice is Debian kernel and it is fast but the critics here would scold me. I also like BSD.
[04:14] <Obadiah_> 64 bit kerne;
[04:14] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[04:14] <Backwards> Obadiah are you installing a Server installation or a Desktop?
[04:15] <Obadiah_> desktop
[04:15] <Backwards> That's different.
[04:15] <Backwards> I run my Lubuntu server wireless and headless.
[04:16] <Backwards> I don't need a mouse, keyboard or monitor on the box. I log into it with pUTTY and WinSCP. Free stuff and the best I have used.
[04:17] <Bashing-om> papibe_: Welcome to the mad house .
[04:19] <Backwards> Another nice feature about ubuntu is VNC.
[04:19] <Backwards> Do some homework on that.
[04:19] <papibe_> trying to make hexchat work
[04:19] <xz0r> Hi I tried to upgrade 10.04 to 14.04 by running do-release-upgrade , but it failed at configuring 'python-minimal' error. Now I'm not able to do anything, Everything is messed How to roll back?
[04:19] <antiPoP> Hi, there is a command to show the maintenance status of al packages, but I can't remember it. Which is?
[04:20] <danny_> What is recommended for backups? Is Rsnapshot good enough?
[04:20] <cfhowlett> xz0r, rollback is not supported on ubuntu
[04:21] <Bashing-om> xz0r: There is no roll back . The proper way from an EOL release is via the old releases repo.
[04:21] <Bashing-om> !eol | xz0r
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !backup | danny_
[04:22] <Backwards> If you want to check for packages use this command:   dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:22] <xz0r> ubottu, How I wish I came across this link earlier
[04:26] <danny_> !sbackups
[04:26] <danny_> !sbackup
[04:26] <danny_> !cloning
[04:26] <danny_> !automate
[04:27] <Backwards> Antipop check this command:   apt list --installed
[04:27] <Ben64> danny_: you can talk to ubottu in a PM
[04:27] <danny_> Ben64, I both have no Idea how to do that and am done
[04:29] <antiPoP> Backwards, I was searching for something that listed the support status, was something  that grouped packages by 5 years, 3 years, unssupporter
[04:29] <antiPoP> unssupported...
[04:30] <ajruiz> Hi everybody!!!!
[04:30] <Backwards> I don't know what you are talking about AntiPoP.
[04:31] <Backwards> Greets to Ajruiz
[04:32] <Backwards> What is on your mind Ajruiz?
[04:34] <ajruiz> Nothing lol
[04:34] <antiPoP> Backwards,  is   ubuntu-support-status
[04:34] <ajruiz> I'm working
[04:36] <Backwards> Ajruiz what do you do for work?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Backwards, please chat in pm or ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[04:37] <Backwards> Cfhowlett are  you an OP here?
[04:41] <xz0r> Bashing-om, I tried following EOL upgrade from the link that you gave above. But when I ran apt-get update I get the following message E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:42] <Backwards> Xz0r try sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:43] <xz0r> Backwards, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:44] <Backwards> Xz0r you may have to sudo apt-get purge <the file> and reinstall it. Be careful about it. Do a bit of homework on this. I don't know what the application  you doing but always make a backup of your data before making the next step.
[04:45] <quantibility> anyone know how to dim the screen manually?
[04:46] <xz0r> Backwards, I'm trying to upgrade 10.04 to 14.04    Yes I have a backup of data
[04:47] <xz0r> Backwards, when I ran sudo do-release-upgrade it results in 'Error authenticating some packages' and exits with status 1, do you know how to get around this?
[04:48] <Backwards> Xz0r check this URL first: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu
[04:49] <amincd> hi, are there any environment variables that can't be set to a particular value?
[04:49] <amincd> I'm trying to set IFS (internal field separator) to a value, and it's not working.
[04:50] <Backwards> Xz0r PPA is Personal Package Archive.
[04:51] <Bashing-om> xz0r: Bit afraid to mess about too much with "failed to download ' Corrupted control file ?/// not sure we can rebuild it if we remove the controls .// A thought . All PPAs disabled ?
[04:51] <Backwards> Xz0r it all depends upon your kernel and what you have installed. If it is a server or Desktop there are different issues.
[04:53] <amincd> nevermind, putting it in quotes fixed the problems
[04:53] <Backwards> Doing sudo apt-get update and upgrade doesn't always fix things.
[04:54] <Bashing-om> xz0r: You did " sudo sed -i -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ' , yes ?
[04:57] <quantibility> i guess i didn't need to say it but never mind
[04:59] <cptnemo> Hi, I've messed up badly and recursively with the permissions of my home directory. Now I can't access the server remotely via ssh
[04:59] <Backwards> Xz0r try this command:   /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:59] <cptnemo> it gives Permission denied (publickey).
[05:00] <cptnemo> i've checked permissions in my .ssh folders
[05:00] <cptnemo> and they seem OK
[05:02] <Backwards> Cptnemo have you tried sudo before you put the <command> in the Command Prompt?
[05:03] <cptnemo> Backwards, do you mean sudo ssh?
[05:03] <Backwards> Cptnemo perhaps you may have to chmod <user> for root privileges.
[05:05] <Backwards> Cptnemo or better    chown <user>: /<whatever directory or user>
[05:06] <Backwards> It would have to be sudo chown <user>: /<stuff to do>
[05:07] <Bashing-om> cptnemo: All fikles in your /home should be grouped and owned by "uou" .. with the exception of " drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root     4096 May 19  2013 .. " . Might check this .
[05:07] <radek_> hey
[05:08] <bill__> quit
[05:09] <xz0r> Bashing-om, Backwards  Yes I did them Now the upgrade is going-on. FINGERS CROSSED
[05:09] <lone-genius> can anyone help me out?
[05:10] <Backwards> Xz0r That is what I like to hear. Justa lika mama used to do.   :)
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !ask | lone-genius
[05:11] <lone-genius> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but i only have one computer and i want to uninstall my ubuntu OS so i can install another Linux flavor
[05:12] <cfhowlett> lone-genius, and the question?
[05:13] <lone-genius> How can i do that?
[05:13] <^peter^> Backup data - format drive - install new system
[05:14] <lone-genius> how can i burn another ISO file onto a USB and load it to install....ive been in my bios and ive used the built in burner for ubuntu and its still not picking it up?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> lone-genius, boot your new OS.  when you get to the partition stage you can 1. install directly over the existing ubuntu partitions making sure you format them or 2. delete all the ubuntu partitions then repartition for your new OS
[05:14] <lone-genius> Yes i want to do number 2
[05:14] <lone-genius> but how?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> lone-genius, ubuntu USB creator only works when creating UBUNTU usbs.  try unetbotin
[05:14] <lone-genius> my live usb isnt picking up
[05:14] <cfhowlett> unetbootin
[05:15] <lone-genius> okay ill try...thanks ;)
[05:15] <cfhowlett> lone-genius, happy2help!
[05:16] <Backwards> Xz0r I suggest you keep a notebook at your side all day long because most people don't know UNIX or Linux commands. Knowing Linux commands and using the command prompt is so important. Take my word for it. I have been there and done that.
[05:17] <xz0r> Thank you. Will do that.
[05:18] <Backwards> I am an Instructor for a Network Technology Academy. I know what it means to do homework and to tell the students how to their research.
[05:25] <Backwards> Xz0r do a Google on this word ubuntu cheat sheet.  You will find a lot of Linux commands there.
[05:26] <mrz__> Hi. is django irc here?
[05:26] <mrz__> Hi. is it django irc here?
[05:28] <codfection> which one is good? ubuntu lubuntu mubuntu kubuntu dubuntu or xubuntu?
[05:28] <codfection> I dont wanna miss any features but want faster system.
[05:29] <Backwards> One interesting URL is this:  https://www.google.com/#q=ubuntu+cheat+sheet+commands
[05:32] <Bashing-om> codfection: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware. Fastest is a minimal install .
[05:32] <robattila256> am I supposed to unmount usbs before using dd?
[05:34] <Backwards> LXDE is one of the best Linux kernels.
[05:34] <Backwards> I run LXDE on my VBOX.
[05:34] <Backwards> Loads fast and works fast.
[05:34] <Triffid_Hunter> it's not a kernel, it's a DE..
[05:35] <BCCI> ubuntu really kics windows ass.
[05:36] <Backwards> Lightweight Desktop Environment.
[05:39] <codfection> BCCI, how? please elaborate.
[05:39] <Backwards> LXDE is the fastest Desktop I have ever used. Bar none. There are other micro-kernels too. e.g., http://linuxfinances.info/info/microkernel.html
[05:40] <codfection> Backwards, you use linux on virtual machine? what about your main OS.
[05:41] <codfection> why people use mac OS as their main OS and ubuntu as vm? is mac better than ubuntu?
[05:41] <Backwards> Codfection, I am running Windows 7 talking with you. My Ubuntu box is my main server. I also Use VBOX from SunMicrosystems on a virtual box.
[05:42] <amincd> hi, how do I restore an environment variable's default value without logging out/in of the shell?
[05:42] <Bashing-om> codfection: Are you handy with linux ... and know what you want in your operating system ? .. then it is a minimal install , and build your own .
[05:42] <codfection> Backwards, windows is better than ubuntu? so I should not run ubuntu as my main right?
[05:42] <Backwards> I run multiple OS.
[05:43] <Backwards> I wouldn't say that. Both Windows and Ubuntu have their merrits.
[05:43] <codfection> what should I run as main OS?
[05:44] <codfection> I have i5 laptop so vm is pretty slow due to 2 cores only
[05:44] <Backwards> I make a lot of money with Windows with Data Recovery with Windows. So the money factor comes into play here.
[05:44] <BCCI> Backwards: Backwards fuckoff
[05:44] <BCCI> nobody cares.
[05:45] <codfection> BCCI, why you said ubuntu beats windows? explain please.
[05:45] <codfection> what main OS you use BCCI ?
[05:45] <Backwards> Ubuntu as a server is a far superior way to set up a web server.
[05:45] <BCCI> linux beats windows because ... hmm.... it's free?
[05:45] <codfection> Backwards, I am talking about my laptop main OS. not server
[05:46] <codfection> BCCI, what distro you run as your main OS?
[05:46] <BCCI> linux beats windows because it's free, achieves the same goals.
[05:46] <Backwards> Codfection do you have issues with your laptop?
[05:46] <codfection> Backwards, nope
[05:46] <codfection> BCCI, which distro you run as your main OS?
[05:47] <BCCI> windows is garbage. hopefully it will end up in the dustbin of history.
[05:47] <codfection> lol
[05:49] <Backwards> BCCI in the real world, Windows is what most lazy people use. So making a living on Windows is just another reality. Running Ubuntu is another reality. I make money with Ubuntu too. Personal preference is personal.
[05:49] <Kay> #bookz
[05:49] <BCCI> Backwards: do you work for a bank? believe me, you don't make money. stop acting like you're a businessman.
[05:50] <dacorr_> Both OS have pro's  and cons it depends on what you need to use it for. Personnaly I use Linux for forensics as it gives me easy access to the raw data and file system , windows based forensic tools hide some of this or simplify it.
[05:50] <robattila256> windows is great, all my personal information and security can be manipulated by everyone
[05:50] <dacorr_> From a security point both OS can be made to be secure but few have skills to do it. Out of the box I would say link has the better configuration from a security point
[05:52] <Backwards> BCCI working for a bank does not impress anyone here. It doesn't matter. And as Dacorr sayd: From a security point both OS can be made to be secure. It is a matter of choice.
[05:53] <codfection> BCCI, which OS you use as your main?? Please guide me
[05:53] <Backwards> Dacorr I work with Forensic Data Recovery. Good point you made.
[05:54] <Backwards> Most Windows Data forensic software that I have used with Windows is on a CD or DVD and it runs on Debian.
[05:54] <BCCI> Backward is a cop
[05:55] <dacorr_> Mainly encase ad
[05:55] <dacorr_> And ftk due to court acceptance
[05:55] <dacorr_> Reality you can use any tool as long as you validate the results. And magically find the same data using a court recognised tool
[05:56] <BCCI> court recognized tool
[05:56] <dacorr_> Same applies to OS really this is moving more to ubuntu-offtopic so should end it there
[05:56] <BCCI> what do if data encrypted ... beat the person in a secret prison?
[05:57] <Backwards> Court recognized tool I never heard of but if that is true, thanks for the advice.
[05:58] <rajat> rajatrockers007
[05:58] <rajat> hi everyone
[05:59] <Backwards> Dacorr I will share something about Linux or Ubuntu. I had a Windows .zip password protected. I use an ubuntu program and it totally ignored the password and opened up the file. That was commical.
[05:59] <Backwards> I laughed for hours on that one.
[06:00] <BCCI> woot woot almost ready for my HUAWEI exam
[06:00] <Kartagis> !find apachetop
[06:00] <BCCI> ch? CHINA? CHINA!
[06:00] <Kartagis> wut?
[06:01] <Kartagis> ch is Switzerland, BCCI
[06:01] <lurkashflake> Hi.
[06:01] <Kartagis> China is cn
[06:01] <lurkashflake> When I try to install ubuntu touch on my table it say Device moorefield not found on server...
[06:03] <Backwards> Lurkashflake try  sudo apt-get install <file or whatever>
[06:05] <lurkashflake> Backwards: ?
[06:05] <lurkashflake> on my tablet
[06:05] <Backwards> Lurkashflake check your repository file on your Ubuntu box.
[06:06] <Backwards> Check this link:  http://superuser.com/questions/237247/how-do-i-add-a-apt-get-repository-without-editing-etc-apt-sources-list
[06:08] <lurkashflake> The part I don't get is where does it point to a missing repository.
[06:09] <Backwards> Lurkashflake, that is moot. Not all repositories are supported by apt-get.
[06:10] <Backwards> Because not all repositories are trusted.
[06:10] <Backwards> The ones that are trusted are on the apt repo list.
[06:10] <Backwards> You can edit the apt repository list on your ubuntu box.
[06:11] <Backwards> In the sources.list
[06:13] <Backwards> Check /etc/apt sources.list.d   or just sources.list
[06:13] <lurkashflake> yes
[06:13] <lurkashflake> I come from arch
[06:14] <lurkashflake> Is the problem you saw, related to universe/multiverse? :)
[06:14] <Backwards> If you uncomment a website the apt sources list has it there. It is up to you to decide.
[06:15] <Backwards> There is no rule on that.
[06:15] <lintguy> I'm getting this "The following extra packages will be installed" and then the package name and then nothing…..
[06:15] <lintguy> I've tried clean and check but nothing....
[06:15] <lintguy> If i do an uninstall and then install again, will it remove my config files?
[06:16] <lurkashflake> How do you know my problem is related to a repo?
[06:16] <Backwards> You can also add to the sources.list as you see fit. It is your decision.
[06:16] <Backwards> You can always comment it out.
[06:16] <lurkashflake> 2016/08/10 02:16:32 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
[06:16] <lurkashflake> 2016/08/10 02:16:33 Device is |moorefield|
[06:16] <lurkashflake> Device moorefield not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel stable
[06:16] <lurkashflake> yes sure
[06:17] <lurkashflake> but my skill are't fit enogh to notice any link between my error and an uncommented repo
[06:17] <Backwards> Before you do anything make backups of your system first. Good policy.
[06:17] <BCCI> ugh, just started my first day working at a porno store.
[06:18] <xz0r> Backwards, The upgrade is still going on. How much time do you think it will take to upgrade 10.04 to 14.04 ? I have pretty good internet connection. 94 Mbps
[06:18] <BCCI> can't believe these places are still in business. some fat chick just bought this huge dildo.
[06:19] <Backwards> Xz0r you are funny. I don't know. Just let the upgrade do it's thing.
[06:19] <lurkashflake> Backwards: May you quote the exact part of the error that got you to know there is a repo I should add?
[06:19] <xz0r> Backwards, why funny?!
[06:20] <Backwards> Xz0r I was kidding with you. :)
[06:20] <Backwards> Lurkashflake I gave yo the URL.
[06:21] <Backwards> http://superuser.com/questions/237247/how-do-i-add-a-apt-get-repository-without-editing-etc-apt-so
[06:21] <Backwards> urces-list
[06:22] <Backwards> Don't be so quick to add add or subtract anything there. Make sure you make a <file.bakup> before you do anything.
[06:22] <lurkashflake> Backwards: I come from Arch Linux I am literated.
[06:24] <Backwards> It took another beer to read that line.
[06:25] <Xin> hey all
[06:25] <lurkashflake> hi Xin
[06:25] <Xin> ubuntu is all touch friendly now yeah?
[06:25] <Xin> in 16.04
[06:25] <lurkashflake> there is ubuntu touch I am trying to install on my tablet
[06:25] <Xin> well for me its a convertable ultrabook
[06:25] <lurkashflake> cool
[06:25] <Xin> I want to use like an ultra low voltage kernel and stuff
[06:25] <lurkashflake> will be easyer
[06:26] <Xin> really max out the life cause its doing very basic work
[06:26] <lurkashflake> ah if you are expert gentoo is perfect on that
[06:26] <Xin> I am no expert haha
[06:26] <lurkashflake> like make a portage of the touch usb and rotation then gg
[06:26] <Backwards> Xin what do you mean by "Ultra Low Voltage?"
[06:26] <Xin> I need tutorials for everything
[06:26] <lurkashflake> alright :P
[06:26] <Xin> Backwards; well it uses a core-m processor
[06:26] <Xin> um, my understanding is it like, undervolts it etc
[06:26] <kernelcruncher> Looking to debug or solve a problem with wired network not resuming after suspend
[06:27] <kernelcruncher> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168
[06:27] <Xin> I believe such kernels often try to do stuff like stay very lean
[06:27] <Xin> so they can stay active without really requiring many cycles
[06:28] <kernelcruncher> Subsystem: Lenovo RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [17aa:5018]	Kernel driver in use: r8169
[06:28] <Backwards> Xin I am an Electrical Engineer. Voltage has nothing to do with it unless you set the sleep mode on. That is another story.
[06:28] <kernelcruncher> modprobe -rv to remove
[06:28] <kernelcruncher> then -v to insert brings it back
[06:29] <Xin> Backwards; im.. not entirely sure that's true, but I do understand where you're coming from
[06:29] <Xin> afaik its how the core-m series operates
[06:30] <Xin> atleast using windows 10
[06:30] <Backwards> Sleep Mode reduces the voltage of your computer usage of the battery if you are using a laptop but if you are using a DeskTop that is another story.
[06:31] <Backwards> The point is that no matter what you set your computer to the battery voltage is always running.
[06:31] <Xin> sure but the idea is even in sleep mode you can keep a low power core active
[06:31] <Xin> to monitor stuff
[06:31] <Xin> and do things
[06:31] <Xin> like your phone does
[06:32] <Backwards> Sleep Mode is just telling the OS that your keyboard and mouse and monitory is sleeping. That is it.
[06:32] <Xin> that doesnt seem particularly true either
[06:32] <Xin> there's like what, 4 levels of sleep\
[06:32] <Xin> and even then each has its own unique components
[06:32] <Xin> aka leaving the lan/wan powered for WOL
[06:32] <Backwards> Sleep Mode turns off the voltage to your extranious voltages that are not necessary.
[06:33] <Xin> heh anyway
[06:33] <Xin> kind of a moot discussion
[06:33] <Backwards> If the computer is sleeping, there is no need for the monitor to be showing.
[06:33] <Xin> the core of the concept is; less overhead = less battery use
[06:33] <Xin> end.
[06:34] <Backwards> Xin true.
[06:35] <Backwards> If the computer is sleeping then, there is no need for the keyboard which takes up voltage as well as the mouse or the keyboard mouse.
[06:35] <Backwards> But the Sleep Mode does monitor the mouse movements.
[06:36] <Backwards> Then the computer comes into the Awake mode.
[06:47] <Backwards> Xin I am glad  you do your homework. Keep up the good work.
[06:50] <mrz__583> how i can join to another group in smuxi?
[06:50] <Backwards> Someone asked a question here earlier and I thought about it. There is a Ubuntu Xvidtune program that changes the level of the monitor and since Xin mentioned it I must caution about using it because it changes voltage levels.
[06:53] <Backwards> Xin thanks for that question.
[06:53] <V7> Never upgrade from 14.04 to 16.06
[06:53] <V7> 16.04 *
[06:55] <V7> If you want it ... just remove 14.04 and install 16.06 clearly ...
[06:55] <cfhowlett> 16.04!
[06:56] <V7> xD
[06:56] <V7> yeah
[06:56] <V7> 16.04 *
[06:56] <V7> I think ... after 20 years ... I'll make mistake with 106.06
[06:57] <Tin_man> in the almost 4 years of using linux, I've upgraded twice, and both time were disasters, ended up reinstalling from the iso.
[06:57] <V7> +
[06:57] <V7> Show me this programmer who did this
[06:58] <Backwards> Tin Man Welcome to the Ubuntu club.
[06:58] <V7> Backwards: ahh
[06:58] <sarek> im trying to find a string(192.16xxx) in a folder recursively and ignore permission denied errors. 'sudo find /etc -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -l "192.168.1" >/dev/null' doesnt seem to be working
[06:58] <V7> Backwards: Bugs are everywhere
[06:58] <V7> (c)
[06:58] <Tin_man> not a club i want to frequent..
[06:58] <Backwards> Disasters are from inexperience. Not an insult but we learn from installations.
[06:59] <V7> We learn from bug (c)
[06:59] <Backwards> lol
[06:59] <V7> bugs *
[07:00] <robattila256> I need to use apt-get update onto my hardrives ubuntu OS, from a live CD. How do I do that?
[07:00] <robattila256> can I login to that os from a live cd?
[07:00] <Fr_Dae> just apt
[07:00] <Backwards> I cannot tell you how many times I installed Ubuntu and was dissapointed. It takes a lot of trial and error.
[07:00] <cfhowlett> robattila256, use chroot to own the installed OS then execute. carefully
[07:00] <Fr_Dae> sudo apt update, you don't need anymore apt-get
[07:00] <robattila256> ok thanks chroot was the one
[07:00] <V7> robattila256: error ?
[07:00] <robattila256> I Just set nomodset to my grub cause it wasn't working now I need to update it from a live cd
[07:01] <robattila256> then it should work
[07:01] <robattila256> thx
[07:02] <V7> aw
[07:05] <Backwards> V7 what is so important about GRUB? GRAND UNIFIED BOOTLOADER? Most Ubuntu installations load it automatically. Let the program work itselg.
[07:06] <Backwards> Itself
[07:08] <Backwards> V7 here is a tidbit of research for you:   http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[07:08] <Backwards> Good Ubuntu homework.
[07:11] <Backwards> Time for another beer.
[07:12] <sponix> Anyone in here use OBS (Open Broadcast Software) ?
[07:16] <cfhowlett> sponix, don't waste bandwidth with "anyone ?" questions.  state YOUR issues and YOUR specifications
[07:17] <xz0r> cfhowlett, When I was trying to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 I got the following message Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:17] <xz0r>  sbackup
[07:17] <xz0r>  sbackup-gtk
[07:17] <xz0r> Upgrade complete
[07:17] <xz0r> What should I do now
[07:17] <robattila256> When re-installing grub, do I put it on the root partition or the /boot partition?
[07:18] <robattila256> because the root partition also has a /etc/default/grub folder
[07:18] <robattila256> so not sure which drive I install it on
[07:19] <sponix> Is there a FIX for OBS not displaying Chrome and other Windows ?
[07:27] <fpnick> Hi, since upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04, Openconnect cannet find libgnutls: "openconnect: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". How can I reinstall that?
[07:30] <prism> tacoman
[07:31] <tacoman> yes?
[07:31] <prism> thought it would be easier for you to tell
[07:34] <V7> Backwards: ?
[07:41] <xz0r> Can anyone help me out with a NFS query? I just need to share a directory between two ubuntu machines in a network
[07:43] <Guest49345> xz0r: why not samba?
[07:44] <xz0r> I dont know. Seems like NFS would do my job
[07:44] <xz0r> I just have to mount it in the client and scan the files
[07:47] <wahaj> het
[07:47] <wahaj> boys and gals ?
[08:01] <guest12345> hello
[08:02] <cndmxz> test
[08:04] <frodox> How can I change default icons fot some filetypes (say, .sh) to more usefull one? And in ^O dialog
[08:14] <okutu> hey, I am trying to install xenial jeos with ubuntu-vm-builder but it it fails with  --force-yes is deprecated, use one of the options starting with --allow instead. any know of any workarounds?
[08:17] <JakesDen> When i try to install anything or do anything with apt it says"' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension"
[08:17] <JakesDen> how do i fix it?
[08:18] <glitchd> ubuntu 16.04.1 with xubuntu desktop, my clock disappears from the top panel as soon as I set it. Just all of the settings get erased as soon as i click close. anyone have any insight as to why or maybe a possible fix?
[08:32] <m1dnight1> mhayden: You around? Can I pm you quickly?
[08:32] <m1dnight1> Well, I meant shortly.
[08:37] <deronnax> hi people
[08:38] <deronnax> with the gnome desktop (gnome shell) and gajim, I don' t have message notifications on the desktop
[08:38] <deronnax> and this is *very* annyoing
[08:38] <deronnax> has anyone experienced this ? someone knows how to fix ?
[08:41] <okutu> --force-yes is located in hardy.py dapper.py jaunty.py and intrepid.py of Vmbuilder. should I change all instances to --allow-downgrades,
[08:41] <okutu>  --allow-remove-essential, --allow-change-held-packages
[08:41] <okutu>  or just the one in jaunty?
[08:51] <ac2> hey anyone here have expierence using the new bash/"ubuntu" terminal in windows ten?
[08:55] <Xin> lol no
[09:02] <okutu> ei
[09:28] <basic6_> about ubuntu linux 16 not booting anymore on that computer (no video) https://bugs.launchpad.net/kernel/+bug/1609436
[09:28] <basic6_> it works with "nomodeset"
[09:30] <basic6_> but it does not work by default. pretty much any prepared live linux system (with kernel >=4.4) does not work anymore on that computer. i'll add that info to the bug report
[09:39] <newbie12341234> hi guys
[09:39] <newbie12341234> can someone help me with ubuntu installation on asus rog laptop please
[09:39] <newbie12341234> i can run the live usb
[09:40] <newbie12341234> but stuck after trying to install it on the drive
[09:40] <garo> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/mediawiki.html speaks about ubuntu 16.04 and tells me to do "sudo apt install mediawiki php-gd"
[09:40] <newbie12341234> tried adding nomodeset at the bootloader but it said unrecognize command
[09:40] <garo> But ubuntu 16.04 doesn't have a mediawiki package ?!?
[09:41] <newbie12341234> i did tried to find the solution on the internet
[09:41] <newbie12341234> all i get only try adding nomodeset
[09:41] <newbie12341234> im very newbie at linux
[09:41] <blackbird_> newbie12341234, You wanna install it with windows (dual-boot) ?
[09:41] <wpdivine> What is the shortcut to 'Terminal'? Sorry, I am new in Ubuntu.
[09:41] <newbie12341234> no
[09:42] <garo> Is this temporarily missing and will it come back ? And if it won't come back, should I install from source, a ppa or something else ?
[09:42] <newbie12341234> single boot
[09:42] <newbie12341234> i want to get rid of windows 10
[09:42] <newbie12341234> i did tried the encrypted drive, but got the cryptsetup error
[09:42] <newbie12341234> now i trying without the encryption, but still can't get to the login
[09:42] <wpdivine> Newbie, do you want to run Windows 10 alongside Ubuntu?
[09:42] <newbie12341234> no
[09:42] <garo> newbie12341234: I assume you want to install a desktop and not a server ?
[09:42] <newbie12341234> i want linux ubuntu only
[09:43] <newbie12341234> yes
[09:43] <newbie12341234> i got the 16.04 lts desktip
[09:43] <newbie12341234> desktop
[09:43] <garo> I would suggest mint for desktops and regular ubuntu for servers
[09:43] <newbie12341234> i did update the installation and driver as well
[09:43] <garo> mint is 95% ubuntu + 5% improvements for desktop usage
[09:43] <newbie12341234> isn't it about the kernel for this problem?
[09:44] <newbie12341234> if mint and ubuntu has the same kernel, wouldn't i will be still having the same problems?
[09:44] <blackbird_> newbie12341234, did you tried it before installation ?
[09:44] <newbie12341234> yes
[09:44] <brunch875> yes, mint isn't relevant to this
[09:44] <newbie12341234> im on ubuntu usb live now
[09:44] <newbie12341234> using firefox right now to chat here
[09:45] <newbie12341234> as what i read, it's about the skylake isn't supported yet
[09:45] <newbie12341234> i don't know
[09:45] <newbie12341234> im on i7 6700 skylake processor
[09:45] <newbie12341234> with nvidia gpu
[09:45] <garo> sorry, I just logged in, i didn't read your problem
[09:45] <brunch875> That shouldn't be it, that's my configuration
[09:45] <newbie12341234> it's ok, wb
[09:46] <brunch875> I'm on a laptop with i76700HQ
[09:46] <newbie12341234> then i don't know why after installation and after restarting it just stuck at the ubuntu logo
[09:46] <newbie12341234> not going to login page
[09:46] <newbie12341234> i can get to the login page when i try the safe mode
[09:46] <newbie12341234> but after entering the credentials, then there's nothing
[09:46] <newbie12341234> lol
[09:46] <garo> I just always suggest mint for desktops because it solves most of the problems
[09:47] <newbie12341234> well, ok i will try mint then
[09:47] <newbie12341234> downloading now
[09:47] <garo> But what is is the problem actually
[09:47] <blackbird_> garo, his ubutnu stack whet instalalting
[09:47] <newbie12341234> i don't know
[09:47] <newbie12341234> yes
[09:48] <brunch875> newbie12341234: what do you mean by "there's nothing" at login?
[09:48] <newbie12341234> after installation and after restart, it just stuck at ubuntu logo
[09:48] <brunch875> my laptop gave me some issues with the video drivers
[09:48] <newbie12341234> after login at safe mode, only wallpaper
[09:48] <newbie12341234> but no start menu, icons and so on
[09:48] <brunch875> what's your video card?
[09:48] <newbie12341234> gtx 960m
[09:48] <newbie12341234> nvidia
[09:48] <brunch875> !!!!!!
[09:49] <newbie12341234> asus rog laptop
[09:49] <brunch875> We have the same laptop then
[09:49] <garo> If the live cd/usb worked fine it's not a driver problem
[09:49] <newbie12341234> yes
[09:49] <newbie12341234> how do u install ur ubuntu?
[09:49] <brunch875> What I did was use a TTY to install the video drivers
[09:49] <newbie12341234> im running on live ubuntu at the very moment
[09:49] <brunch875> what happens to me is the display freezes on login
[09:49] <newbie12341234> im a regular computer user
[09:49] <newbie12341234> on windows i just click yes, yes, yes
[09:49] <brunch875> you know, if  you press ctrl+alt+F2
[09:49] <newbie12341234> lol
[09:49] <brunch875> it will change to a terminal
[09:50] <brunch875> ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to graphical
[09:50] <newbie12341234> on booting?
[09:50] <brunch875> at any time when ubuntu is up
[09:50] <brunch875> like
[09:50] <brunch875> right now
[09:50] <newbie12341234> ok then after i go to terminal
[09:50] <newbie12341234> what should i do?
[09:50] <brunch875> what I did is before logging in was switching to TTY2 via ctrl-alt-f2
[09:50] <brunch875> then log in there
[09:51] <newbie12341234> which version of mint do u suggest for this laptop?
[09:51] <newbie12341234> linux mint 18 or lmde 2
[09:51] <brunch875> and from that point install the video card drivers
[09:51] <newbie12341234> i see
[09:51] <brunch875> I'll get you the command
[09:51] <newbie12341234> thank you
[09:52] <newbie12341234> i try to find the nvidia driver for ubuntu
[09:52] <brunch875> sudo apt-get install nvidia-361
[09:52] <brunch875> that's what you need to type once you log in
[09:52] <brunch875> on the tty
[09:52] <newbie12341234> ok
[09:52] <brunch875> so here's how I did it:
[09:52] <newbie12341234> it will download the nvidia driver right?
[09:52] <brunch875> but not from the liveUSB
[09:53] <brunch875> you want to do that from the installation
[09:53] <newbie12341234> i know
[09:53] <newbie12341234> from the drive installation right
[09:53] <newbie12341234> ok
[09:53] <newbie12341234> i go try right now
[09:53] <brunch875> how I did it was pressing that TTY combination as it logged in
[09:53] <brunch875> before the screen froze
[09:53] <brunch875> then log in and hit that command
[09:53] <newbie12341234> ctrl+alt+f2
[09:53] <brunch875> or ctrl-alt-f3 to use TTY3
[09:53] <brunch875> there's multiple
[09:53] <newbie12341234> what's the difference?
[09:53] <newbie12341234> tty2 or 3?
[09:54] <brunch875> nothing, just different instances
[09:54] <newbie12341234> ok
[09:54] <brunch875> I tend to avoid TTY1 because it prints messages
[09:54] <newbie12341234> thanks for the help brunch875
[09:54] <brunch875> and it dirties what I'm typing
[09:54] <newbie12341234> i'll be back if still error lol
[09:54] <santabear> !ops
[09:54] <brunch875> good luck!
[09:54] <santabear> merry christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:54] <newbie12341234> thanks!
[09:55] <santabear> hello everyone
[09:56] <brunch875> hello! Please use the ops command only in emergencies
[09:56] <santabear> I understand
[10:05] <killall> Hello, my display settings (rotation and position) is reset every time i reboot. How come?
[10:06] <se> test
[10:06] <lantern> how do i resize the lvm partition in the installer for 14.04. all i see under "Change" are the options to change fs and mount point
[10:07] <kobol> Hello everyone, would you recommend Negus' Linux Bible as a good reference for someone who's learning linux/ubuntu more or less from scratch?
[10:08] <bazhang> kobol, try ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic for such
[10:09] <bazhang> !manual | kobol here is for ubuntu
[10:12] <kobol> Thanks ubottu I actually took a look at that manual but feels -very- basic
[10:13] <bazhang> !rute | kobol and this too
[10:13] <bazhang> kobol, otherwise the chat channels for polling recommends
[10:13] <lantern> nobody?
[10:14] <bazhang> ubottu, lvm
[10:14] <bazhang> see above lantern
[10:15] <kobol> thanks a lot for the suggestions lads and apologies for being offtopic
[10:16] <lantern> bazhang: i know how to use lvm. my issue is, the resize option is absent in my installer, when i click on "Change"
[10:29] <pandaadb> Hi - I have asked yesterday about my graphics issue. I ended up doing a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04 and installing nvidia driver 367
[10:29] <pandaadb> Prime seems to be working, however I believe my intel skylane graphics are not recognised
[10:30] <pandaadb> and I believe this is causing syncing issues and tearing
[10:30] <killall> Hello, i have a software raid with 4 disks (runs ok on /raid) but when i change /raid to /home and reboot all the files are there with 0 bytes why?
[10:30] <pandaadb> I don't know and can't find info on how to install the correct intel drivers.
[10:30] <pandaadb> My 3D part tells me the driver in use is nvidia, however the intel card does not show any driver in use
[10:31] <pandaadb> is this expected? Is there a way for me to reinstall the intel drivers so they are in use with the VGA card
[10:31] <killall> pandaadb, maybe one of those chard with 2 graphics?
[10:31] <pandaadb> this is the setup: http://pastebin.com/CD6VDgzL
[10:32] <pandaadb> killall, yes, it is 2 cards, the integrated intel graphics and an NVIDIA card
[10:32] <killall> you want to use the nvidia only?
[10:34] <pandaadb> The reason i am asking is because the one thread that has the same setup and is solved shows the driver in use to be i915
[10:34] <pandaadb> killall, I am not 100% sure what the correct setup is. Ideally I would like for them to play together nicely and get rid of the tearing
[10:35] <pandaadb> When switching to power save mode, the tearing goes away. But it seems like the wrong approach to just not use nvidia at all
[10:36] <raketensilo> I am on a 15 version and this does not work: sudo apt-get install fpdns
[10:36] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | raketensilo
[10:36] <bazhang> those are all end of support raketensilo upgrade to a supported version
[10:39] <pandaadb> So i guess the question is, can it cause tearing because the NVIDIA driver works fine, but the intel part which it syncs to is configured wrong?
[10:40] <akik> pandaadb: i have tearing also on a laptop with intel/nvidia and can't get rid of it. it's mostly visible on youtube videos, not on any other videos
[10:40] <pandaadb> akik, i also have the tearing when scrolling websites, and when working on the terminal. Typing sometimes lags and doesn't get displayed properly
[10:42] <akik> pandaadb: i actually went from 16.04 back to 14.04. in that i have nvidia-352 and the tearing is less visible
[10:42] <pandaadb> hm, so it might be a 16.04 issue then
[10:43] <pandaadb> have you tried using power safe mode to see if that fixes the issue with 16.04?
[10:43] <akik> pandaadb: i don't know. there's lots of discussion also on the nvidia board
[10:44] <pandaadb> I saw that thread: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/775691/linux/vsync-issue-nvidia-prime-ux32vd-with-gt620-m-/7
[10:44] <pandaadb> i was wondering if that has something to do with it
[10:47] <akik> pandaadb: there was also some discussion whether nvidia disabled some feature in the chip and that caused the tearing problem
[10:48] <pandaadb> akik hm okay. I found this thread where they solved the issue by upgrading the kernel.
[10:48] <pandaadb> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323113
[10:48] <pandaadb> But I was advised against upgrading the kernel
[10:49] <sh0t> Hi guys my goal is to access my samsung galaxy s5 with ubuntu and copy all the files i want in my laptop. What's the smoothest way? I tried using mtpfs but i get an error like:"LIBMTP ERROR: couldnt parse extension samsung.com/devicestatus:0"
[10:49] <akik> pandaadb: you can install mainline kernels for testing. just save the default kernel
[10:50] <pandaadb> akik would you mind pasting your output for: lspci -knn | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[10:50] <akik> pandaadb: that laptop is at home. i have probably that info though online
[10:51] <pandaadb> I just wonder if your intel card uses a specific driver or not
[10:51] <pandaadb> I feel like I am chasing red herrings around the world :)
[10:51] <akik> Intel HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2) and GeForce 920M/PCIe/SSE2
[10:52] <pandaadb> And does it say if a driver is in use for both?
[10:53] <akik> i'm using the nvidia one
[10:53] <akik> i've set it in xorg.conf
[10:54] <pandaadb> That;s the one I am using as well. But doesn't the nvidia still have to pass it through the intel one?
[10:54] <akik> pandaadb: i've set the intel one as "Inactive" in the conf
[10:55] <pandaadb> That's what I have as well
[11:04] <killall> why is ctrl +c and ctrl +v diferent than ctrl + insert  and shift + insert and mouse copy mouse paste?
[11:05] <brunch875> From python I can import youtube_dl but from python3 I cannot... knowing that this module is compatible how can I import it from py3?
[11:05] <bekks> killall: it depends where you issue those key combos.
[11:06] <killall> bekks, why should it matter where do i issue them? the clipboard content should be the same no?
[11:06] <bekks> killall: in a terminal, ctrl+c terminates the currently running process, e.g.
[11:07] <brunch875> killall: you can ctrl-shift-c ctrl-shift-v to copy-paste
[11:07] <akik> killall: you can change the shortcuts to suit your usage
[11:08] <akik> killall: i'm using many windows and linux and firefox in the same session, so i need to keep the copy & paste functions the same
[11:08] <akik> otherwise it would be a mess
[11:15] <gstepanov_> --query Aamit
[11:16] <killall> bekks, i know that ctr+c in terminal terminates the run app, but  why cant i copy from firefox (mouse copy) and paste the command in terminal with ctrl + insert? it shows a different thing...
[11:16] <killall> bekks, i mean like i think i have 3 clipboards that are not even synced and that sometimes they mess around each other.
[11:21] <YankDownUnder> (You can paste into a terminal with the middle click)
[11:22] <Haris> hello all
[11:22] <Haris> I'm on 14.04.3 LTS. I hav 1x ssl vhost, 2x port 80 based vhosts and one default vhost on port 80. how can I provide access to a certain vhost via LAN IP of this box ?
[11:24] <Andrzej> Hi. I am Ubuntu 16.04 user. How can I create bootable USB with Ubuntu that will work on 2009 Macbook Pro?
[11:25] <sheiru> hi
[11:25] <sheiru> why is apache.service showing up when i removed apache
[11:25] <sheiru> anyone?
[11:25] <sheiru> anyone?
[11:25] <Andrzej> sheiru: you probably have to remove service from systemd
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> Andrzej: http://business.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-drive-for-mac-in-os-x--cms-21253
[11:27] <killall> YankDownUnder, that is not my problem, if i copy in terminal and i paste in firefox i will have diferent content pasted and so on ... the clipboards ( i guess there must be at least 2) are not synced
[11:27] <killall> sheiru, did you purge it?
[11:28] <Andrzej> YankDownUnder: thank you but this is not the answer that I was looking for. I need to make bootable USB that will work on OSX but to do that USB I can use only Ubuntu or other linux distro (I may have access to Windows 10 machine if this will be necessary), I don't have working OSX installation
[11:28] <sheiru> killall: how?
[11:28] <glance> I'm mocking around with secure boot
[11:28] <sheiru> apt purge lamp-server^
[11:29] <glance> Where can i get a copy of the canonical secure boot ca?
[11:29] <sheiru> i already removed it lamp-server^ group
[11:29] <Haris> how do I check what .. multiple .. LAN IPs have been added/assigned to an interface on 14.03.4 LTS ?
[11:29] <sheiru> i cant purge now
[11:29] <YankDownUnder> Andrzej: You can boot the Mac to a CD/DVD, you know...
[11:29] <sheiru> since i removed that
[11:29] <sheiru> killall: ?
[11:29] <Andrzej> YankDownUnder: I don't have CD drive in that mac, it's broken
[11:30] <YankDownUnder> Andrzej: And if you boot the machine with "OPTION+U" for USB...that should boot to the USB...hmm...
[11:31] <Andrzej> YankDownUnder: Unetbooin was always informing that pendrive created trough it will not work on MB
[11:31] <Andrzej> will "Make Startup Disk" in ubuntu create MBP bootable USB?
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> Andrzej: http://www.howtogeek.com/213396/how-to-boot-a-linux-live-usb-drive-on-your-mac/
[11:33] <bekks> Andrzej: which OS are you trying to boot from your USB?
[11:34] <sheiru> i am unable to remove lamp-server^,even after purgin that i still get localhost apache page????
[11:34] <YankDownUnder> The EFI BIOS on Macs is a PITA to deal with - unless you prepare a proper "boot media" that's going to play happy with the EFI/SMC on the Mac
[11:35] <Andrzej> YankDownUnder: that still requires OSX which I don't have
[11:35] <Andrzej> bekks: Ubuntu
[11:36] <killall> sheiru, you tell me
[11:36] <bekks> Andrzej: if you dont have OSX, why are you trying to create a boot medium for it? :)
[11:37] <YankDownUnder> Andrzej: You know, I'm just Googling, bro - do you know that you yourself can bloody well Google? If you want something, you work for it. I suggest you get off your arse and bloody well look on the net. The answer is there, and I don't need an attitude from someone that wants me to do the work for 'em - and don't bother to show any gratitude at all for the volunteers that bloody well spend their time in here trying to help. Have
[11:37] <YankDownUnder> fun.
[11:40] <Andrzej> YankDownUnder: I know how to google, I found articles that you send me, I can not find answer to my question so I've asked here because there are people in the world that have solved problems but didn't wrote about them in blog post. If you don't know the answer then do not respond to me! I don't need help of someone that will google the answer for me. I can do that myself.
[11:40] <theMINUSbros360n> hello be my peeporoonis
[11:40] <theMINUSbros360n> im so sorry kms
[11:40] <Andrzej> nevertheless thank you for your help
[11:40] <theMINUSbros360n> INTENSE DABOROONI
[11:43] <theMINUSbros360n> anyone know how to simulate coding in batch like i wanted to send a batch file to my friend over skype(even though this isnt windows) but i was wondering if there was any software to open and play batch files with linux but i can still code in batch just cant open :/
[11:44] <acetakwas> Should I install Ubuntu 14 or 16?
[11:44] <theMINUSbros360n> im running 16
[11:44] <acetakwas> I believe both are LTS
[11:44] <theMINUSbros360n> and i like it better than 14
[11:44] <acetakwas> I need it for development work at the office.
[11:44] <acetakwas> I work with Pyhton
[11:44] <acetakwas> s/Pyhton/Python
[11:45] <acetakwas> Okay so 16 is fine for a Lenovo?
[11:45] <theMINUSbros360n> oh then 16 would be best
[11:45] <acetakwas> I'm thinking an older version is more likely to have support
[11:45] <theMINUSbros360n> and yes 16 is fine for a lenovo
[11:45] <acetakwas> But I'll go with 16.
[11:45] <acetakwas> Thanks
[11:45] <theMINUSbros360n> that would make sense
[11:45] <theMINUSbros360n> but ok :D\
[11:46] <acetakwas> Anyone in here has a contrary opinion?
[11:46] <avis-> you mean linux is not minix in reference to gpl3 ?
[11:47] <OerHeks> acetakwas, go with the latest LTS
[11:47] <avis-> in light of
[11:47] <OerHeks> that is, if you want to dev python3
[11:48] <bekks> Andrzej: You cant boot non-OSX from USB on a Mac unless you tell your Mac to do so.
[11:48] <acetakwas> OerHeks::  Thanks. I do both Py2 and py3
[11:48] <OerHeks> python2 is still available, too
[11:49] <michele> hi! how do I know which packages are inside a tasksel item? e.g. ubuntu-server
[11:49] <acetakwas> Okay
[11:49] <acetakwas> Thanks
[11:50] <michele> or "publishing applications"
[11:50] <bekks> michele: tasksel --task-packages "Ubuntu Server"
[11:51] <bekks> michele: Or, before that: tasksel --list-tasks
[11:51] <chilversc> how do I configure gnome terminal correctly so that clear removes the scrollback?
[11:51] <bekks> chilversc: thats not what clear does at all, you cant configure that.
[11:52] <chilversc> "echo -ne '\033c'" works fine and the docs mentions something about extended E3 support?
[11:52] <michele> bekks: ow. i did not imagine that i was one man page away
[11:52] <michele> bekks: thanks :)
[11:52] <bekks> chilversc: that issues a "reset", not "clear".
[11:52] <chilversc> ah right
[11:53] <chilversc> though it's much faster than the reset command?
[11:54] <michele> bekks: maybe I said victory too early
[11:54] <michele> # tasksel --task-packages server
[11:54] <michele> server^
[11:54] <michele> y
[11:54] <michele> haha
[11:55] <steinerlein> good morning all, I have trouble with my bluetooth headset in 16.04 - I am using a bluetooth USB dongle to connect to it. I can connect, and the Headset also shows up in the sound setting, but I do not hear anything. I have checked the levels with alsamixer, nothing is muted. Also it worked just fine yesterday! Any idea as to what could be the problem?
[11:55] <chilversc> bekks: is there any way to configure terminfo so that that's the method used to clear the screen?
[11:55] <OerHeks> michele, you ran into this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1576279
[11:56] <OerHeks> i think you need to examine the metapackages online
[11:56] <michele> oh yea
[11:56] <michele> OerHeks: how can i do that?
[11:56] <raketensilo> can you please confirm that a fpdns install package is available for Ubuntu16=
[11:57] <michele> raketensilo: packages.ubuntu.com and search for your distro
[11:57] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta  > http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntustudio-publishing
[11:58] <michele> thanks OerHeks
[11:58] <bekks> chilversc: clear does something different than reset.
[11:58] <OerHeks> michfull ubuntu studio > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Applications
[11:58] <bekks> chilversc: if you want to clear the terminal, use clear, if you want to reset the terminal, use reset.
[12:01] <chilversc> can I make reset faster though? for some reason the echo is almost instant while reset has a short delay
[12:01] <bekks> And why is that delay that vital?
[12:02] <bekks> chilversc: this is what reset does, in addition to just echoing 33c
[12:03] <hyun> query fr_dae
[12:03] <bekks> chilversc: http://linux.die.net/man/1/reset
[12:03] <chilversc> it's just annoying having that delay before the command runs
[12:04] <bekks> chilversc: it is about functionality, not speed.
[12:05] <raketensilo> I have identified it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/fpdns but how to install it?
[12:05] <chilversc> right, but all I need to do is clear the screen and the scrollback
[12:05] <bekks> chilversc: and that is what reset does. And it does that in a defined way, as described in th link given.
[12:06] <chilversc> really should just be a standard option in gnome terminal, when clearing, clear the scrollback
[12:06] <bekks> chilversc: clear clears the terminal. reset resets the scrollback, in addition to a couple of other things.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:08] <mhayden> m1dnight1: back now
[12:20] <x_> hi alll
[12:20] <x_> good morning
[12:20] <x_> one help for run one script
[12:21] <x_> how to change command "sb2" for ?
[12:21] <Jordy_> Hi everyone - i'm trying to install .NET Core on Ubuntu 16.04, but an error occured:  Unable to locate package dotnet-dev-1.0.0-preview2-003121... Does anyone know how to solve this issue?
[12:21] <x_> how to change command "sb2" for ?
[12:21] <x_> sb2 not found
[12:21] <x_> in terminal
[12:22] <geass> x_ : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/sb2-init.1.html there is a package called sb2-init
[12:22] <geass> can u try to install it ?
[12:22] <OerHeks> !find dotnet-dev
[12:23] <Jordy_> OerHeks: Huh?
[12:24] <ioria> Jordy_, http://zablo.net/blog/post/run-and-debug-asp-net-core-rc2-ubuntu-16-04
[12:24] <OerHeks> Jordy_, it is not available in our repos, where do you get it
[12:24] <sarek> exactly how do you se virtualenviroments? I installed ve and vewrappers and put the ve thing in bashrc and everything, but not exactly sure how to 'run this' https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/114395/plex-lastfm-scrobble-scrobble-plex-audio-tracks-to-last-fm/p1 in a virtualenviroment. Just clone it into ~/.virtualenvs? or do i manually  'mkvirtualenv
[12:24] <sarek> plex-lastfm-scrobbler' the clone the git on my desktop or something then like rsync -av ~/Desktop/plex-lastfm-scrobbler/ to ~/.virtualenvs/plex-lastfm-scrobber THEN cd into ~/.virtualenvs/plex-lastfm-scrobber then run python setup.py install?
[12:25] <Jordy_> OerHeks: https://www.microsoft.com/net/core#ubuntu
[12:25] <x_> sb2-init not found on apt-get
[12:26] <Jordy_> OerHeks: It's awesome. Hope it will be adopted by the Ubuntu foundation, that's default available in apt-get. Samsung etc. already does..
[12:27] <OerHeks> Jordy_, follow their instructions carefully ..
[12:28] <Jordy_> OerHeks: I did already, but it doesn't work. On Ubuntu 14.04LTS it works OK, but on 16.04 it failed.
[12:29] <OerHeks> contact the maintainer = microsoft
[12:34] <raketensilo> how has fpdns running successfully? Which distro you have and where did you get the package from?
[12:34] <raketensilo> *who has fpdns running successfully? Which distro you have and where did you get the package from?
[12:34] <OerHeks> likely we all use ubuntu, raketensilo
[12:34] <ioria> !info fpdns
[12:34] <OerHeks> please poll in ##linux
[12:35] <raketensilo> what ubuntu version do you have? I can't find it with apt-get after update
[12:36] <x_> please how to use sb2 on ubuntu ?
[12:36] <x_> command not found
[12:36] <x_> "/
[12:36] <OerHeks> !info fpdns
[12:36] <OerHeks> raketensilo, should be available though.. trusty and xenial
[12:36] <OERIAS> Can someone help me?
[12:36] <bekks> OERIAS: Depends on what you need help with.
[12:37] <OERIAS> I have a machine with 7.04 and I want to upgrade to 16.04
[12:37] <bekks> OERIAS: Reinstall.
[12:37] <OERIAS> It can't be reformatted or reinstalled
[12:37] <OerHeks> lolz .. the first troll today
[12:37] <bekks> OERIAS: Then we cant help you.
[12:38] <OerHeks> please, OERIAS, you make me lauch .. if you have no backup if your data, it is not important :-D
[12:38] <OERIAS> I know there was a command that the installer would just install the text based os
[12:38] <bekks> That box isnt important at all. It hasnt seen updates since 8 years.
[12:38] <bekks> OERIAS: There is no such command.
[12:39] <OERIAS> bekks, it was a server
[12:39] <OERIAS> in a church
[12:39] <bekks> Correct. WAS. Reinstall it.
[12:39] <bekks> !7.04 | OERIAS
[12:39] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/
[12:39] <OERIAS> It has 1 GB of RAM
[12:40] <Pici> OERIAS: So?
[12:40] <OERIAS> 2 ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
[12:40] <bekks> OERIAS: It doesnt matter. It is too old for upgrading.
[12:40] <Pici> OERIAS: The server iso will install fine on that.
[12:40] <OERIAS> bekks, not even if it is textbased>
[12:40] <bekks> OERIAS: No. Reinstall it.
[12:40] <OERIAS> Pici, will it be smooth?
[12:41] <ronino> hello
[12:41] <Pici> OERIAS: The issue isn't running a new release, its the fact that upgrading requires that you go through every intemediary release, which is 1) a waste of time 2) not something that you can do without implementing fixes at each step 3) bound to fail
[12:41] <bekks> OERIAS: Your hardware is 9 years old. It will be as smooth as your hardware is capable of.
[12:42] <ronino> a friend of mine has an old Ubuntu 12.10 running but for some days the menu fonts of non-qt programs like chromium and thunderbird look like bars and squares or even UTF special characters, he didn't change anything he said, what could be wrong?
[12:42] <Pici> OERIAS: If this is truely a server without a desktop environment, then it will most likely run fine.
[12:42] <bekks> !12.10 | ronino
[12:42] <popey> OERIAS: it is possible to go 7.04 -> 7.10 -> 8.04 -> 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 but that's just madness
[12:42] <ronino> gnome-tweak-tool looks the same and I can't do anything
[12:43] <OerHeks> upgrading, ext3 > ext4, newer grub, lots of things to avoid
[12:43] <ronino> bekks: thanks for the info, but an upgrade is an option I'd like to avoid
[12:44] <Pici> OERIAS: I just went from 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 on a server here and I had to make a bunch of changes to get everything to work.
[12:44] <popey> ronino: you may want to avoid it, but that's unsupported with security holes. it _should_ be upgraded or reinstalled
[12:44] <OERIAS> Pici, did it keep the integrity of the data?
[12:45] <ronino> popey: I get your point, but this will take hours for a problem that probably takes only 5 min to solve if I only knew what's wrong
[12:46] <popey> ronino: right, but then they'd still be running an insecure non-updated system
[12:46] <popey> ronino: friends don't let friends run outdates releases ㋛
[12:46] <Pici> OERIAS: Yes.
[12:46] <ronino> popey: well, if you have lots of friends, then you probably can't avoid it ;-)
[12:46] <popey> Sadly i don't ㋛
[12:48] <yancho> hi. i am trying to connect freeradius with openldap. freeradius was set up with mysql and worked fine before. now it is firing reject response. This is the radtest: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22905656/ and this is the debug info: http://pastebin.com/CV6P6DXX - anyone can please offer some light as to where I should start looking to fix the bug please?
[12:55] <pi__> muy buenas
[12:58] <setuid> Is there a way for Ubuntu to remember my monitor arrangement? Every time I turn on my external monitor, I get a popup from xfce4 asking me to configure my monitors and arrangement. it's annoying.
[12:58] <setuid> I'd rather it just always knew where my monitors are, and their placement. 1 laptop, 1 external monitor.
[12:59] <bekks> setuid: so turn on the external monitor first, then your laptop.
[12:59] <popey> that's an xfce specific issue, my unity based desktop remembers where monitors are
[12:59] <popey> which I think is stored in .config/monitors.xml
[12:59] <setuid> bekks, not possible
[12:59] <popey> maybe the same place in xfce?
[12:59] <setuid> popey, How does one configure monitors.xml?
[13:00] <setuid> other than "by hand"
[13:00] <popey> generally I just use the control panel thing
[13:00] <popey> and it saves to that file
[13:00] <popey> i dont know if xfce uses that file too
[13:00] <setuid> Right, so I configure the monitors using Settings -> Display, and they're correct. I turn off the external monitor, turn it back on, and have to do it all over again.
[13:00] <setuid> happens with nouveau driver and with the nvidia driver
[13:00] <popey> that's annoying
[13:01] <setuid> monitors.xml shows me as having what looks like 17 monitors
[13:01] <setuid> eDP1, DP3, DP4, HDMI1, HDMI2, HDMI3, VIRTUAL1, then duplicated a second time
[13:02] <setuid> 14 separate blocks of config
[13:02] <popey> in the past I have had to nuke that file and start again
[13:02] <popey> because the system got "confused" by it
[13:02] <popey> perhaps back it up, and remove it
[13:04] <setuid> I just removed it, logged out, back in, checked Settings->Display, everything looked good, turned off external, back on, popup showed up, configured the monitors the way they're arranged, and checked ~/.config/. no monitors.xml file there.
[13:04] <setuid> so what process/tool creates that file?
[13:04] <simon-cay_> 5
[13:07] <popey> setuid: ever used any other desktop than xfce on that machine?
[13:07] <popey> setuid: maybe xfce doesn't use that file
[13:07] <OerHeks> ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/displays.xml perhaps ?
[13:08] <setuid> popey, no other wm runs on this machine, I've tried them all. Once they try to start, they recycle back to lightdm.
[13:08] <setuid> xfce4 is the only one that works, so I use that
[13:08] <popey> setuid: okay, so having used one at some point, that may be why you had a monitors.xml
[13:09] <setuid> OerHeks, that file has a datetime stamp of moments ago, so it's definitely being updated. How do I make that file the canonical source for monitor config?
[13:09] <setuid> chattr +i the file?
[13:10]  * setuid tries that
[13:10] <OerHeks> setuid, that could do the job, a bit ugly ..
[13:12] <cksgn080101> Hi
[13:14] <MacroMan2> I've got 2 nvidea cards in my machine, but Ubuntu only seems to recorgnize one of them
[13:14] <MacroMan2> I can see it in the additioanl drivers section, but xrandr only show the first one
[13:16] <OerHeks> MacroMan2, what config? one nvidia onboard, one pciXpress?
[13:17] <MacroMan2> No, both pic-e
[13:17] <MacroMan2> pci-e sorry
[13:17] <MacroMan2> My pc doesn't support running the onboard at the same time
[13:17] <MacroMan2> I can see the onboard in the output of xrandr
[13:19] <MacroMan2> They're different models. Would that introduce an incompatibilty?
[13:19] <OerHeks> Not sure you need to write a xorg.conf yourself, define both cards, device0 and device1 > https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/769851/multi-nvidia-gpus-and-xorg-conf-how-to-account-for-pci-bus-busid-change-/
[13:19] <MacroMan2> Will take a look, thanks
[13:21] <MacroMan2> OerHeks, I think this is a bit over my head.
[13:21] <OerHeks> MacroMan2, for me too, maybe someone else here got a clue??
[13:23] <MacroMan2> Ah. I've managed to find it in the nvidea-xserver control. Need to restart x to see if it works
[13:25] <awsumpwner27> Last night I "Suspend"ed my laptop and this morning when I brought it back up, it said that the wifi was disabled by a hardware switch.
[13:30] <elspru> how do I open a .sql file?
[13:30]  * elspru doesn't want to install something as bulky as mysql
[13:31] <setuid> OerHeks, didn't work
[13:31] <setuid> OerHeks, Either X starts with the second monitor powered-on, but black, or I have to go into the config and enable that monitor, apply, then arrange, then apply a second time.
[13:32] <setuid> Why doesn't it just remember that I have a second monitor, and remember where i've placed it!?
[13:33] <killall> Where is the xorg.conf stored?
[13:33] <killall> Where is the xorg.conf stored?  on ubuntu 16.04
[13:33] <nagyf> elspru: .sql is just a text file. open it with your favourite text editor
[13:34] <setuid> killall, where it's always been, /etc/X11/
[13:34] <setuid> killall, if it's not there, it's not using one
[13:34] <elspru> nagyf: thanks
[13:35] <killall> setuid, i change my xorg.conf and dont see anything......
[13:36] <setuid> are you restarting X? or just logging out and back in again?
[13:37] <killall> setuid,  reboot the computer :)
[13:37] <killall> setuid, im changing the monitor rotation via nvidia driver config and via ubuntu display menu and after a reboot the screens get horizontal
[13:38] <dupondje> something broken in last updates?
[13:38] <dupondje> can't open unity anymore :s
[13:38] <awsumpwner27> Well, a restart seemed to do the trick.
[13:38] <awsumpwner27> Weird behaviour.
[13:38] <dupondje> well it opens, but no bard
[13:38] <dupondje> bars*
[13:41] <jonathon> hi, does anyone have any experience with installer preseed files? i can't get a file included on the cd to be used, but loading it from a url works fine
[13:42] <MacroMan2> OerHeks, You may have guessed, but restarting x crashed my computer lol
[13:42] <MacroMan2> I'll stick to 2 monitors for now I think
[13:50] <fsociety> hy
[13:50] <Guest78991> anybody here??
[13:51] <Guest78991> hello..
[13:51] <brunch8751> hello Guest78991, there-s 1897 people here
[13:52] <SchrodingersScat> fsociety404: knock knock, neo
[13:52] <fsociety404> my nickname was change not by me..
[13:53] <fsociety404> are you geek??
[13:53] <SchrodingersScat> !support | fsociety404 this is the ubuntu support channel #ubuntu, do you have a ubuntu support question?
[13:55] <fsociety404>  not now, but later..;)
[14:23] <Archeus_> how can i go to #hackthissite from here ?
[14:24] <jonathon> /join #channelname
[14:24] <jonathon> assuming it's on freenode
[14:25] <Archeus_> oh
[14:25] <Archeus_> thx
[14:30] <freakyy> hi all i have a question. if i wanna put ubuntu on my desktop pc, and i have an ssd with 30GBs i can allocate, and a HDD with 1TB, what partitions should i put where?
[14:35] <Gourlay> anyone could give me advice on getting the latest BIOS on a computer which don't get any BIOS screen? have something like this, issue: http://community.acer.com/t5/V-and-VN-Series-Laptops/I-have-an-Aspire-V17-Nitro-VN7-791G-72MY-Very-slow-startup/td-p/418739. Some irc channel to suggest who may help me?
[14:37] <Matt__> hello. i think i've found a bug. i was hoping someone could direct me
[14:38] <jonathon> freakyy, / on the ssd, /home, /var and swap on the hdd
[14:38] <jonathon> Gourlay, not sure what you mean by "don't get any BIOS screen", but flashing a BIOS is dependent on the manufacturer tools
[14:39] <jonathon> Matt__, you should probably go to Launchpad and search for the package+bug there
[14:39] <Matt__> thank you jonathon
[14:39] <Gourlay> jonathon, I have .exe-file to install BIOS. I don't get any screen at all, it is totally black, but after waiting for 3 hours I can sometimes get the computer running to the OS, which is now Windows 10.
[14:40] <jonathon> Gourlay, so boot into windows 10 and run the bios updater
[14:40] <jonathon> otherwise it sounds like a hardware issue which noone here is going to be able to fix
[14:40] <Gourlay> jonathon, How do I boot into windows 10 when I get a completely black screen and cannot reach my BIOS settings? My BIOS could be corrupted.
[14:41] <Gourlay> jonathon, I get into my computer sometimes, but most of the time it reboots repeatedly
[14:41] <jonathon> i suggest you file an RMA and get it repaired under warranty
[14:42] <Gourlay> jonathon, could you please read this, same computer model as I have: http://community.acer.com/t5/V-and-VN-Series-Laptops/I-have-an-Aspire-V17-Nitro-VN7-791G-72MY-Very-slow-startup/td-p/418739.
[14:43] <jonathon> ok, so they flashed the bios
[14:43] <jonathon> you need to flash the bios
[14:43] <jonathon> which means you need to be running windows
[14:44] <Gourlay> jonathon, I will probably get into windows tomorrow, but anyway I would like this computer returned. Warranty is one year on Aspire, I think.
[14:44] <freakyy> jonathon ok thanks sounds good :)
[14:45] <rdegges> heyo. quick question
[14:46] <rdegges> What's the best IM client now-a-days? Is it still pidgin? Or is empathy decent?
[14:46] <jonathon> Gourlay, if you bought it in the EU you get two years warranty
[14:46] <rdegges> Been a while.
[14:46] <rdegges> heh
[14:46] <jonathon> rdegges, the only way to know which is best for you is to try them :)
[14:46] <rdegges> fair enough
[14:46] <rdegges> =p
[14:46] <mcphail> freakyy: if you feel adventurous, you could try using bcache
[14:49] <Gourlay> jonathon, OK, Do I have to send the damn thing to Singapore or something? Or is it anywhere I can return it in Sweden, Stockholm?
[14:49] <Matt__> i am looking at launchpad (and canonical) but do not see how to submit  a bug report
[14:51] <Gourlay> jonathaN, this computer has a touchpad not working properly (have to click really hard), a screen with a line in the middle when starting (disappears after a while, but really sensitive if it gets pressure on middle) and now a not booting. I can't believe Acer pulled this off with my Aspire VN7 791G model.
[14:54] <Braven> hello
[14:55] <Braven> I am trying to figure out how add Active Directory user to ubunutu server. I have already joined the server to the domain
[14:55] <ThisIsZenified> Braven: and what's the problem
[14:56] <Braven> I added domain admin to sudoer file
[14:56] <Braven> What format should user be in if want to add it to passwd file
[15:01] <zteam> Hi!
[15:02] <ThisIsZenified> !ask
[15:02] <ThisIsZenified> zteam: ^
[15:02] <ThisIsZenified> !ask | zteam
[15:02] <ThisIsZenified> Oh fun, I remember the syntax
[15:03] <mustmodify> Just got "cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system"
[15:03] <zteam> ThisIsZenified, yes, I know about, that I just usually begins with saying Hi :-)
[15:04] <mustmodify> I was thinking about restarting but thought I should check first... if there was some kind of os/drive failure issue that could cause my drives to become readonly and when I restart there will be a giant mess instead of something recoverable... ???
[15:05] <zteam> Does anybody know reliable LVM is with Ubuntu? my experience is that the LVM "falls apart after about 2 years, is this normal?
[15:05] <tgm4883> zteam: falls apart?
[15:06] <Matt__> Launchpad login page is down?
[15:06] <Braven> anyone have experience with ubunutu server and active directory intergration
[15:07] <Matt__> Braven, I can work on this with you
[15:08] <zteam> tgm4883, yeah sort of... with Ubuntu 14.04 or if it was Ubuntu 12.04 I lost one of the disks integrated into that LVM (the disk itself was recognizing and working just fine after a format) but the LVM didn't recongnize as part of it's chain
[15:08] <tgm4883> That seems odd to me
[15:09] <Pici> Matt__: the canonical sysadmins are looking into it
[15:09] <Matt__> ok
[15:10] <Matt__> if they require any further assistance i would be glad to help the team
[15:10] <Matt__> oh, the conversation split. i retract my statement. they are looking into the issue of the login page being down
[15:11] <Pici> Matt__: yes ;)
[15:11] <Matt__> Braven, I would be happy to work with you on the active directory integration
[15:11] <Matt__> thank you Pici
[15:11] <zteam> tgm4883, with Ubuntu 14.04 the LVM lasted for about 2 years, but after I encrypted another drive, but my Ubuntu installation got an error, saying it couldn't reach LVM file (LVM-tab or something?) booting from a LIVE usb and read the LVM from that worked fine this time however)
[15:13] <Arkus> i need some help with grep
[15:13] <Matt__> i need assistance with an existing bug
[15:14] <Matt__> #445852
[15:14] <zteam> tgm4883, yes, I agree it was odd....
[15:15] <Pici> Arkus: just ask
[15:15] <Arkus> im looking to search for the text LoadModules
[15:15] <zteam> Is there any commands worth knowing to treat a broken LVM or somehhing?
[15:15] <OerHeks> Matt__, really this old bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libatasmart/+bug/445852
[15:15] <Pici> Arkus: and what part is giving you trouble?
[15:16] <Arkus> ive been using grep Load
[15:16] <Arkus> LoadModule *
[15:16] <Matt__> OerHeks, yes, it seems to be
[15:17] <Arkus> and its seeming to take its sweet time to do anything wich it dosent do anything at all
[15:17] <Pici> Arkus: that will look for the text LoadModule in every file in the current directory, is that what you want?
[15:18] <Arkus> Pici: im actully tring to comment the text out of an apache2 file
[15:18] <Arkus> .
[15:18] <kikero> Hello! MySQL 5.7 breaks my website. What is the preferred way of downgrading to MySQL 5.6 in Ubuntu 16 LTS?
[15:19] <Arkus> kikero: purge mysql then sudo apt-get install mysqld5.6
[15:19] <ThisIsZenified> the first thing you should do is: FIX YOUR WEBSITE
[15:19] <OerHeks> kikero, not, just follow the releasenotes howto do it right ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[15:20] <OerHeks> Arkus, wrong approach, 5.6 is not in the xenial repo
[15:20] <Arkus> kikero: yeah ThisIsZenified  has a valid point why dosent your website work with mysql 5.7 in the first place
[15:20] <kikero> ThisIsZenified: I can't change .5 million lines of code over the night. :-)
[15:20] <Arkus> OerHeks: fair play , i hold my hand up
[15:20] <ThisIsZenified> 5 millions of code that is bloated
[15:20] <ThisIsZenified> You did everything wrong
[15:20] <kikero> .5
[15:20] <ThisIsZenified> you did it
[15:22] <OerHeks> kikero, does it throw an error about 'unknown option key_buffer' ?
[15:22] <kikero> ThisIsZenified, I haven't asked for career advice, haha. I want to downgrade to MySQL 5.6. Downgrading to MySQL 5.6 is done just the same, regardless of what the reasons behind this option are. :-)
[15:22] <OerHeks> kikero, downgrading means back to 14.04
[15:23] <kikero> OerHeks, first error that I get is related to ONLY_FULL_GROUP_BY, but then there are a couple more.
[15:23] <ThisIsZenified> you can do it, but making your code not bloated is the most big thing
[15:23] <kikero> fuck off, ThisIsZenified
[15:24] <kikero> Now, the dump is quite big and my guess is that not all of it gets executed, due to errors.
[15:24] <\9> there seems to be a few PPAs around for MySQL 5.6
[15:24] <\9> of course are they any usable is entirely another matter
[15:25] <OerHeks> you better fix your code than downgrade.
[15:25] <kikero> So, what I have on the production server is an approximation of what I have locally and the other way round is also true. I don't really know very well what the differences between the two MySQL versions are, but I can say that the website works on one version but doesn't on the other one.
[15:25] <Pici> ThisIsZenified: While I may agree that dependency on specific releases of mysql is bad form, #ubuntu is not a place to shame people about it.
[15:25] <Pici> kikero: also, please mind the language.
[15:26] <\9> I think the language was called for but whatever
[15:26] <kikero> Pici: I will, sorry.
[15:26] <ThisIsZenified> read the problems, fix it
[15:26] <daku_> Rate limiting with iptables, is it possible to ip ban automatically for DOS protection, some guy keeps wrecking my life with post requests.
[15:26] <CuriousErnestBro> i messed up with xrandr
[15:26] <tgm4883> daku_: fail2ban maybe?
[15:27] <daku_> I saw an article and tried it, but it blocked 0.0.0.0/0 which made things worse.
[15:27] <CuriousErnestBro> what will happen if I run xrandr --pos 0x0?
[15:27] <daku_> tgm4883: I have fail to ban, but from what I saw, it didn't have an option to deny from HTTP requests, just ssh, mysql and a few others. I could be wrong though
[15:28] <ahmed751995> excuse me , is prime with nouveau switch between two card automatic or i have to type DRI_PRIME=1 "app" ?
[15:29] <Pici> daku_: it has the ability to monitor other logfiles, see http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Apache for example
[15:29] <daku_> Thanks Pici, I'll give that a go. I really hate this guy
[15:29] <kevin> ARE YOU 1 || 0 ?
[15:30] <\9> kikero: downgrading to 14.04 to get an older mysql version could work as a temporary workaround, but eventually you'll have to upgrade anyway so you should try to find out what's breaking the website
[15:30] <Guest24853> <?php echo"blabla"; ?>
[15:30] <\9> Guest24853: do you have an ubuntu support question or are you just here to speak your mind?
[15:34] <Esya> 8
[15:36] <kikero> This question might be a bit too broad, but what are the steps of starting a new language version for Ubuntu?
[15:37] <kikero> Such as, adding a new keyboard layout.
[15:38] <OerHeks> kikero, systemsettings > language support > add language and update
[15:38] <OerHeks> keyboard you also find there
[15:39] <onectin> Hello !
[15:39] <kikero> OerHeks, I added it from the terminal on my own machine. I'm talking about other people being able to use it / getting it into the Ubuntu official distribution.
[15:40] <onectin> I have a personnal serveur running on ubuntu, with apache, and I'm not sure of how should be the permissions on /var/www/ ? Is it 755 for the folders and 644 for the files ?
[15:40] <Guest24853> help
[15:41] <OerHeks> why don't set those 'other people' language and keyboard during install ?? also the same answer i guess, add it through the systemsettings panel
[15:41] <BlackHat> WTF
[15:41] <Guest24853> BlackHat 1 || 0 ?
[15:42] <Guest24853> omg.
[15:43] <OerHeks> Do you have an Ubuntu support question, Guest24853 ??
[15:43] <ahmed751995> excuse me , does prime with nouveau switch between two card automatic or i have to type DRI_PRIME=1 "app" ?
[15:43] <Guest24853> Yes. Where i can support Linux?
[15:44] <OerHeks> ahmed751995, prime works with the nvidia driver, not with nouveau iirc
[15:44] <OerHeks> Guest24853 try ##linux
[15:45] <compdoc> about once a minute while viewing remotely, my desktop theme switches to a different theme and then back again. any ideas?
[15:45] <OerHeks> Guest24853 no pm.
[15:46] <OerHeks> Guest24853, stop that dcc crap
[15:46] <OerHeks> ignoring now.
[15:47] <Guest24853> which dist i should use of linux
[15:47] <Guest24853> i can deb. -> kali, ubuntu, mint...
[15:47] <tgm4883> Guest24853: fedora
[15:47] <Matt__> has there been any update on the bug login page or bug 445852?
[15:48] <Matt__> *launchpad* login page
[15:48] <freakyy> hi all. is there a way i can install ubuntu through windows, if im unable to create any bootable devices?
[15:49] <OerHeks> freakyy, no, unless you have grub already on your system
[15:49] <Matt__> virtualization
[15:49] <freakyy> damn ok thanks
[15:49] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[15:50] <SchrodingersScat> freakyy: pxe boot, if you have a machine you can setup for that :)
[15:50] <freakyy> SchrodingersScat: i think i can boot over the network.
[15:50] <freakyy> how to set that up?
[15:52] <freakyy> SchrodingersScat: well nm ill jsut wait until i get my usb stick tomorrow
[15:52] <mustmodify> ok! So it seems like I have a bad superblock. I have an ubuntu 15.10 disk so I started up linux. I'm now in a console. `df` doesn't seem to list my hard drives... so I guess I need to mount them, right?
[15:52] <Matt__> what can and *can't* you change freakky?
[15:52] <freakyy> i dont have any working dvd burner. and i dont have any usb stick
[15:52] <Matt__> booting over the network is an option
[15:52] <Matt__> or install a virtualization device
[15:53] <freakyy> no thanks ill just wait until i get my usb stick tomorrow
[15:53] <freakyy> and put it on there then
[15:53] <tgm4883> or the simpliest solution, wait until you get your USB stick tomorrow
[15:53] <freakyy> thanks :)
[15:53] <Matt__> you're welcome
[15:53] <freakyy> i cant believe my pcs dvd writer is broken
[15:53] <kikero> OerHeks: I don't think you understand what I am saying. I am talking about supporting a language spoken by ~ 100k people on the Planet that currently doesn't have any kind of support. They can't just add it during install, because it doesn't exist there.
[15:53] <freakyy> i only burned 1 dvd
[15:54] <OerHeks> kikero, '100k people' .. and what language is that?
[15:54] <OerHeks> kikero, if you ask something, give full details, this is like trolling around
[15:55] <SchrodingersScat> freakyy: usb is indeed easier, if you're getting one soon anyway.
[16:00] <fastfourier> hey all, running server 16.04.1 as a virtualbox guest VM, configured a second (host only) network adapter, I configured it with a static ipv4 in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn’t get one
[16:01] <joelio> fastfourier: does the 2nd device show up in #ifconfig -a ?
[16:01] <fastfourier> Hi J., yes it does
[16:01] <joelio> would you like to pastebin your interfaces file?
[16:02] <fastfourier> once I gave it a static IP i could do ifconfig enp0s8 up and it appears on plain old ifconfig but no IP
[16:02] <joelio> ens0p8 ?
[16:02] <joelio> should be the form, no?
[16:04] <OerHeks> This new interface naming is introduced with SystemD > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[16:05] <joelio> I thought it was kernel, consistent device naming
[16:05] <joelio> and before that the bios dev rename
[16:05] <joelio> yay for consistency... kinda.
[16:06] <ubuntu-mate_> hey i had linux mint with /* in partition and /home in other partition, now i wanted to remove linux mint and install ubnutu-mate instead but i can't use the same username since it's already on the network
[16:06] <joelio> ah, so enpNsN is a thing, whereas ensN is a thing.. riiiiiight
[16:06] <ubuntu-mate_> i want to use my old username with all the files it had
[16:06] <fastfourier> http://imgur.com/a/E9hqV
[16:07] <fastfourier> couldn’t copy/paste, no network to SSH in lol
[16:09] <joelio> fastfourier: looks ok to me
[16:09] <fastfourier> yeah me too, the first (NAT) interface works fine
[16:09] <joelio> although the command prompt seems a little to one side
[16:09] <joelio> no white space in that interfaces file causing an issue
[16:10] <joelio> also, have you restarted the vm / networks stack to see if it comes up?
[16:12] <lihua> hello
[16:12] <fastfourier> yes I have restarted, deleted all the whitespace after the netmask line as well
[16:12] <lihua> hello
[16:13] <fastfourier> I think the tab in front of the command prompt is a virtualbox thing - the cursor ends up in weird places when i command-tab to different apps on the host (os x)
[16:13] <lihua> what are you doing?
[16:14] <mustmodify> OMG how do I mount my physical volumes?
[16:14] <lihua> forget it is ok
[16:16] <ningu> does anyone know if all of the contents of /var/run is deleted on startup?
[16:16] <ningu> i.e. all files in the dir?
[16:17] <ningu> ah, I see
[16:17] <ningu> it's tmpfs
[16:17] <tgm4883> ningu: yes, they usually are
[16:17] <ningu> got it
[16:17] <ningu> ok
[16:17] <ningu> not hard to solve, I can fix it
[16:18] <ningu> (the issue I was having which I didn't even explain :P)
[16:19] <xz0r> Hi, I logged into a server via ssh. There is a bash process running already. I want to take over that bash process. Is it possible?
[16:19] <xz0r> I have sudo access
[16:19] <annihilator> would ubuntu on windows be a flavor of ubuntu or ubuntu and windows?
[16:20] <Matt__> annihilator scares me
[16:20] <OerHeks> flavorless
[16:20] <tgm4883> annihilator: neither?
[16:20] <tgm4883> it's not a flavor at all
[16:21] <Matt__> am i using this correctly..."flavor" usually refers to the system surrounding the linux kernel
[16:21] <Matt__> so UBUNTU is a linux flavor
[16:21] <Matt__> Windows is not involved
[16:22] <annihilator> well then you must never her of ubuntu running on windows
[16:22] <Matt__> so you are running a linux flavor, called ubuntu, on Windows
[16:22] <docdawning|surpr> Can anyone direct me to where I might find the original install time for a long-lived Ubuntu server?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> Matt__  annihilator take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <Matt__> ok
[16:22] <OerHeks> !ubu-win
[16:22] <OerHeks> !win10
[16:22] <annihilator> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <OerHeks> great we don't have to support this here.
[16:23] <annihilator> lol but thanks for the channel tho
[16:23] <tgm4883> Matt__: no, Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux
[16:23] <OerHeks> yw
[16:23] <annihilator> #ubuntu-on-windows
[16:23] <annihilator> crap.....sorry
[16:23] <Matt__> thank you tgm
[16:24] <ioria> docdawning|surpr, try   ls -al /var/log/installer/syslog
[16:24] <docdawning|surpr> ioria: Ahh, cool, thanks
[16:24] <ioria> docdawning|surpr, yrwc
[16:25] <docdawning|surpr> ioria: Err, well, that seemed promising, but nope. That's giving quite recent timestamps, but this machine is many years old now
[16:26] <docdawning|surpr> ioria: The creation date of that directory looks about right
[16:26] <ioria> docdawning|surpr,  i see
[16:30] <Matt__> any progress made?
[16:30] <anonymous_> Hello
[16:31] <mustmodify> I'm still struggling with drive mounting.
[16:31] <Matt__> mustmodify, I can help with that
[16:33] <mustmodify> I had some kind of problem, presumably a physical-drive problem. One of my drives became read-only. fsck reported a ton of bad sectors.
[16:33] <mustmodify> So I restarted using a linux boot disk.
[16:34] <gtrt05> anyone know why im still getting the unsupported grahphics card message after installing LTS Enablement Stacks
[16:34] <mustmodify> One old drive, /dev/sda, seems to be present. When I try to mount /dev/sda5, it complains that doesn't know what kind of FS is on there.
[16:34] <mustmodify> Matt__: And the other drive doesn't appear at all on df, fdisk, etc.
[16:35] <neals> Hey, how can i solve this issue ? http://pastebin.com/DNdTeu2v
[16:35] <neals> im on ubuntu MATE
[16:38] <alldigital> is there support for 802.1x (wired) via PEAP with 16.04.1 LTS? using network-manage 1.2.0-0ubunt
[16:39] <gtrt05> has anybody here used LTSEnablementStack  before?
[16:39] <ioria> neals, you miss dependencies ... dpkg does not resolve them. you try to install them manually, or use gdebi, or find it in repos or in a ppa
[16:39] <ioria> *can
[16:39] <bekks> gtrt05: people did. why?
[16:40] <gtrt05> i still get a message saying my graphics card isw not supported
[16:41] <akik> neals: in ubuntu 16.04 you could use "sudo apt install ./wickr-me_2.6.0_amd64.deb"
[16:42] <bekks> gtrt05: Can you pastebin the exact output your get of the exact command you are using, and the exact ouput of "lsb_release -a; uname -a;" please?
[16:43] <gtrt05> im already up to date
[16:43] <gtrt05> ubuntu 12.04.5
[16:44] <bekks> gtrt05: Pastebin the information requested please.
[16:44] <dlasme> hi
[16:45] <gtrt05> bekks http://pastebin.com/y6ZCNiJE
[16:46] <bekks> gtrt05: And what about the exact error when doing what?
[16:46] <gtrt05> upgrading to 12.04.5
[16:47] <gtrt05> i installed LTS Enablement Stacks
[16:48] <kvmmm> "This partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table; please reinitialize layout of the whole device. (udisks-error-quark, 11)"
[16:48] <gtrt05> i even copyed and pasted the comand  hwe-support-status --verbose i get supported to april 2017
[16:49] <rajivmars> i have just installed xubuntu-community-wallpapers on ubuntu 16.04, but i have not seen any of those wallpapers in Appearance>wallpapers. How do i make those wallpapers visible
[16:49] <neals> akik: i got this http://pastebin.com/M6L37w0s
[16:51] <ioria> !info libicu52
[16:51] <ioria> !info libicu55
[16:52] <ioria> neals, you 're xenial  '
[16:53] <rajivmars> Anyone please help?
[16:54] <neals> ioaria: should i install this libicu55 ?
[16:54] <ioria> neals, idk, i only say that that pkg looks for 52, but you probably are on 16.04
[16:55] <ioria> neals, that uses 55
[16:55] <tgm4883> neals: that only supports 14.04
[16:55] <neals> ioaria: i just installed ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64
[16:56] <tgm4883> neals: you'll need to contact the developers and see when they plan on supporting 16.04
[16:56] <eelstrebor_> i've been trying to determine if i should do a kernel patch or find firmware or both to elimate error messages about my intel wifi cards - i think getting the latest drivers will improve performance but one never knows until the latest driver gets installed - git has kernel patches for my wifi card but so far i haven't found the firmware - ubuntu 16.04.1
[16:57] <neals> tgm4883: is there any other workarounds ?
[16:57] <tgm4883> neals: supported ones? no
[17:02] <neals> tgm4883: what if i installed the old packages that this software needs ?
[17:02] <tgm4883> neals: then you possibly break other stuff
[17:07] <OverCoder> aaaah
[17:07] <OverCoder> Okay so I tried to install something, it failed, now, apt-get -f install doesn't fix it either
[17:07] <OverCoder> what can I do?
[17:07] <timyp> OverCoder what is the error you get?
[17:08] <OverCoder> http://askubuntu.com/a/162599/178235 doesn't work either
[17:08] <OverCoder> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:08] <OverCoder>  libpam-systemd:amd64
[17:08] <OverCoder> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:08] <OverCoder> timyp, that ^
[17:08] <timyp> what version of Ubuntu?
[17:08] <neals> i am using Ubuntu MATE, can I emerge those both panels into one?
[17:08] <timyp> 14.04 ?
[17:09] <OverCoder> um, how do I check again? I don't see anything mentioning version in uname -a
[17:09] <timyp> lsb_release -a
[17:10]  * OverCoder facepalms himself
[17:10] <OverCoder> I'm on Debian 8.5, I always though I had Ubuntu on this server, huh
[17:10] <OverCoder> thought *
[17:10] <timyp> might want to check the Debian community
[17:12] <timyp> neals I don't have a mate desktop in front of me I know you can place panels side by side not sure about merging them
[17:17] <FatalNIX> Okay guys, I popped in a brand new Ubuntu 16.04 dvd, booted it up, I can't click anything with the mouse. I can move the mouse.. alternative mice do the same, I can use the keyboard to do most things I would with the mouse, but how can I get the mouse to work?
[17:17] <FatalNIX> because the partitioner is making it very difficult
[17:18] <FatalNIX> mouse buttons work fine, just rebooted from windows and it was working..
[17:18] <FatalNIX> It's a software issue
[17:18] <fizzy_tom> what irc client are you guys using? i'm just trying out a load now, currently on hexchat
[17:18] <nagyf> FatalNIX: Could you try a different USB port?
[17:18] <FatalNIX> doesn't even work on the internal one. doesn't matte rwhat USB port
[17:19] <OverCoder> fizzy_tom, it's the best
[17:19] <OerHeks> FatalNIX, perhaps it is, is FastBoot enabled in windows? that could prevent the use of usb/touchpad and networking
[17:19] <OverCoder> fizzy_tom, stick with HexChat
[17:19] <FatalNIX> I do not believe this system has UEFI, so probably not
[17:20] <nagyf> fizzy_tom: irssi, if you want to try out a terminal client :)
[17:20] <FatalNIX> OerHeks: problem is I can use the mouse, so psaux should be working.. the mouse clicks should be coming through as they'd come through the same fh
[17:20] <FatalNIX> irssi is the best
[17:20] <fizzy_tom> nagyf yeah just been playing with it, it's ok
[17:20] <FatalNIX> I can't seem to figure out how to trigger a checkbox with the keyboard.. sigh
[17:21] <nagyf> press space
[17:21] <ioria> FatalNIX, have you checked the disk integrity ?
[17:21] <FatalNIX> yes..
[17:21] <nagyf> space button usually triggers checkboxes
[17:21] <FatalNIX> That's what I thought
[17:22] <FatalNIX> Oh I see, it's marking it as unusable.. Oh btw, why doesn't Ctrl Alt FX work anymore?
[17:22] <FatalNIX> I wanted to drop into a tty
[17:22] <FatalNIX> there we go, it was just being slow
[17:22] <nagyf> xD
[17:22] <FatalNIX> yet it isn't bringing me a shell
[17:22] <OerHeks> ctrl alt F2 = tty2
[17:23] <OerHeks> and back with ctrl alt F7
[17:23] <FatalNIX> yeah, I know, but it won't bring me a shell, it just blinks.. weird.
[17:23] <FatalNIX> actually F1 is connected to X
[17:23] <FatalNIX> not 7
[17:24] <FatalNIX> weird..
[17:24] <OerHeks> oh, on the installer? yes, that is single user
[17:24] <FatalNIX> wtf
[17:24] <FatalNIX> Sorry I'm a Slackware and BSD user.. ubuntu makes me grumpy lol. Trying to install it for a client
[17:24] <ningu> on ubuntu 16.04 server, is the default to clean /tmp on every reboot, but otherwise not clean it?
[17:25] <ioria> FatalNIX,  'try ubuntu' instead of 'install' ?
[17:25] <timyp> Fizzy_tom chatzilla
[17:25] <ningu> this seems to be the case, just confirming
[17:25] <FatalNIX> yeah I shoulda done that
[17:25] <FatalNIX> I'm regretting clicking that install button now
[17:25] <bitcycle> Hey all.  How does one go about down-grading the kernel to 3.16 on Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[17:26] <timyp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/654094/how-to-roll-back-or-downgrade-kernel-on-14-04-re-wine-stopped-working
[17:26] <timyp> oops wrong version one sec
[17:26] <FatalNIX> So the mouse started working after I changed the tty and then back to X btw
[17:27] <OerHeks> bitcycle, i think you can not. too many dependencies.
[17:27] <timyp> not seeing any docs on it
[17:28] <FatalNIX> I should install templeos on this box
[17:30] <nagyf> Looks like a modern OS :P
[17:30] <OerHeks> 'mouse started working after I changed the tty and then back 'sounds like dual/hybrid gpu
[17:30] <tgm4883> you'd have to build your own kernel for that
[17:31] <matthew> hi
[17:31] <FatalNIX> nagyf: it's 64 bit!
[17:31] <FatalNIX> it's pretty much a joke though
[17:31] <FatalNIX> like, the guy put a LOT of work in it
[17:31] <FatalNIX> but it could never be used as an every day system by any normal user
[17:32] <FatalNIX> I can be fine with just a Forth interpreter and a 6502 for my cpu, and serial access to the Internet but I'm weird.
[17:32] <gomarine> yop
[17:32] <ningu> anyone here understand systemd well enough to help me understand a particular unit file?
[17:33] <ningu> I am looking at systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer and I can't understand what it actually does every 24 hours
[17:34] <gomarine> pancia jak jestes daj naka sygnal
[17:34] <ningu> ah I see, it's under Unit=
[17:34] <OerHeks> gomarine, enlish only please
[17:34] <OerHeks> c/english
[17:38] <ningu> ok, well, if I am understanding correctly then it looks like by default, /tmp is cleaned on boot, but afterwards it is not cleaned until the next boot
[17:39] <alx> anyone use backbox here?
[17:39] <Fr_Dae> it's same openbox ?
[17:39] <OerHeks> !backbox
[17:39] <FatalNIX> great
[17:39] <Fr_Dae> thnaks OerHeks
[17:40] <FatalNIX> rebooted to shrink more disk space in windows and windows update from last week for the 10 + WSL support happens
[17:40] <FatalNIX> time to hold down that power button
[17:40] <FatalNIX> XD
[17:40] <fizzy_tom> you don't want your upgrade FatalNIX? :)
[17:41] <FatalNIX> it's not mine anyways
[17:41] <Matt__> ningu, did you figure that out?
[17:42] <jokke> hey
[17:42] <monolith_> hello
[17:42] <jokke> i tried setting the timezone on a ubuntu server (16.04) to utc, but it still shows localtime as CEST
[17:42] <jokke> how come?
[17:43] <ningu> Matt__: yes, I believe so, but I don't want to reboot the server just to confirm :P
[17:43] <ningu> it took a bit of poking around in the docs but I think I understood the unit files correctly now
[17:44] <Matt__> good :)
[17:44] <ningu> the man page for systemd-tmpfiles is clearer about d vs. D than man 5 tmpfiles.d
[17:45] <ningu> for D it just says, "Create or empty a directory" -- which I guess means, create it if it doesn't exist, otherwise empty it
[17:45] <ningu> (on man tmpfiles.d)
[17:45] <ningu> but systemd-tmpfiles is clearer on the --remove option
[17:45] <mustmodify> so I'm confirming something that Matt__ and I have been investigating.
[17:46] <akik> jokke: you can make a soft link from your timezone file in /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc/localtime
[17:46] <mustmodify> I have a drive at /dev/sda2 that apparently has a corrupt superblock.
[17:46] <mustmodify> and /dev/sda1 has some backup superblocks.
[17:46] <mustmodify> Can I use e2fsck to move one of the backup superblocks from sda1 to sda2?
[17:47] <Matt__> or, alternatively, is there a command to check superblock integrity before doing so?
[17:50] <mustmodify> exit
[17:50] <mustmodify> woops, ignore. Wrong keyboard.
[17:53] <Matt__> :)
[17:55] <rethus> I have installed slitaz-linux on sda1 (before it was windows). I also had ubuntu on sda2. But on boottime, grub shows only sda1, but not sda2 anymore
[17:55] <rethus> how can I fix this
[17:58] <kokcros> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libappindicator1 : Depends: libindicator7 (>= 0.4.90) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[17:58] <kokcros> how solve this hi?
[18:00] <OerHeks> "You might want to run" gives a clue
[18:02] <kokcros> OerHeks: but wont' that kill a lot of things
[18:02] <kokcros> and might break my system?
[18:03] <fizzy_tom> should be fine kokcros
[18:03] <Pici> kokcros: Why do you think that?
[18:03] <OerHeks> no, your action would have broken your system, this 2nd run 'apt-get install -f' can solve lots of issues
[18:03] <kokcros> Pici: once I had tihngs get broken coz of that
[18:04] <fizzy_tom> things are already kind of broken for you to get that message, it's ubuntu trying to fix things for you
[18:05] <fizzy_tom> or at least advising you how to fix it
[18:06] <lucidguy> Ok, anyone know how to stop sddm from showing all the user icons and just show a login name and password field instead
[18:13] <rethus_> How can I reinstall grub to have both linux in menu... linux on sda1 (slitaz) and on sda2 (ubunu)?
[18:13] <rethus_> at the moment only sda1 is in grub
[18:13] <rethus_> have installed slitaz, and all the other grub entries are gone
[18:14] <user212312> guys how do I reset all XDG settings to default in Ubuntu?
[18:23] <Angs> I run "ip -6 addr add xxx::x/x dev wlan0" as root but I get "RTNETLINK answers: Permission denied" error. why do the root previledge gets permission denied problem?
[18:26] <texano> ciaoo
[18:27] <mustmodify> So if SDA2 is an extended partition, should it have superblocks?
[18:28] <rethus_> I have Linux on sda1 and another one on sda2
[18:28] <rethus_> how to setup grub
[18:28] <EriC^^> rethus_: setup where?
[18:28] <texano> irc://irc.1andallirc.net/
[18:29] <rethus_> EriC^^ If I start, I have only sda1 in grub menu.
[18:29] <rethus_> sda2 is gone... now I need to get this back
[18:30] <EriC^^> rethus_: what did sda2 have?
[18:31] <rethus_> sda2 has a ubuntu installation
[18:31] <rethus_> before, sda1 was ntfs (windows) now it's slitaz
[18:34] <eelstrebor> i've been trying to determine if i should do a kernel patch or find firmware or both to elimate error messages about my intel wifi cards - i think getting the latest drivers will improve performance but one never knows until the latest driver gets installed - git has kernel patches for my wifi card but so far i haven't found the firmware - ubuntu 16.04.1
[18:34] <rethus_> this is fdisk: http://hastebin.com/oxexaxojew.vhdl
[18:35] <EriC^^> rethus_: try sudo update-grub
[18:36] <rethus_> http://hastebin.com/iduboxihas.vhdl
[18:36] <rethus_> ok, I try upgrade-grub
[18:37] <rethus_> slitaz has no update-grub
[18:37] <EriC^^> rethus_: you're booted into the ubuntu install right now?
[18:38] <rethus_> no, ubuntu is on sda2. I can't access sda2
[18:38] <rethus_> Allways start in sda1 (slitaz)
[18:39] <rethus_> this is the slitaz menu.lst:  http://hastebin.com/mojitokibi.vala
[18:39] <EriC^^> rethus_: ok sda2 is mounted at /mnt right now?
[18:40] <mustmodify> so I'm stuck in "initramfs" built-in shell. Why am I booting to that?
[18:40] <rethus_> yes, on /mnt
[18:41] <EriC^^> ok type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[18:41] <rethus_> ok
[18:41] <rethus_> and now?
[18:41] <EriC^^> rethus_: type sudo chroot /mnt
[18:42] <rethus_> chroot: can't execute '/bin/sh': Exec format error
[18:42] <EriC^^> oh, one is 32bit the other is 64bit
[18:43] <rethus_> yes, I think slitaz is 32 bit
[18:43] <EriC^^> try to restart and manually boot ubuntu from grub
[18:43] <rethus_> how can I do it manually?
[18:43] <EriC^^> then when it boots run sudo update-grub
[18:44] <rethus_> if what exactly boot
[18:44] <rethus_> grub?
[18:44] <EriC^^> press "c" to go to the grub command prompt
[18:44] <mustmodify> anyone know how I can get past initramfs?
[18:44] <rethus_> ah ok, and if I enter the grub-shell (or what ever "c" do, i enter sudo update-grub?
[18:45] <Pici> /21/21
[18:45] <EriC^^> rethus_: type "ls" to get the list of partitions, then set root='(hd0,msdos2)' or ubuntu's partition
[18:46] <sam_____> I have a questionn guy if I compile for 32 bit target, the machines that runs the a.out should have the shared object in 32 (even if mine was in 64)?
[18:46] <rethus_> ok, and then?
[18:46] <EriC^^> then "linux /boot/vmlinuz..<use tab completion> root=/dev/sda2
[18:47] <EriC^^> then initrd /boot/initrd<tab completion>
[18:47] <EriC^^> then type "boot"
[18:47] <Guy1524> hey guys im trying to build a package that requires qt 5.2.1
[18:47] <rethus_> ok, thanks a lot EriC^^, I'll give it a try
[18:47] <Guy1524> how do I install qt 5 on ubuntu
[18:48] <EriC^^> rethus_: ok, no problem
[18:48] <Guy1524> also, how do I install 32 bit libraries on a 64 bit system
[18:50] <Peter_Graves> Hello.  I am trying to get the ubuntu-security-announce posting to pgp verify.  I do not need help with pgp, but I need help in formatting the file.  Should it be ASCII, UTF-8, or something else and what about CR or CRLF?
[18:56] <Peter_Graves> I tried searching the Internet for help specific to verifying those posting but found nothing helpful at all.
[18:57] <Pici> Peter_Graves: it should be in the same format that you receive it in.
[18:58] <Peter_Graves> well I have tried selecting from web browser screen, copy, paste into file and save, then same for the signature, but it says the signature is bad everytime.
[18:59] <Peter_Graves> I assume it might be due to the signed text being in ASCII, but my save saved it as UTF-8, as example.
[18:59] <Peter_Graves> I have tried different things and formats to get it to verify, but nothing works.  I know I am using the right signature, and I have the public key, etc.
[19:00] <miRR> Any advanced users about to give me a hand with adding vlans to bonded/bridged interfaces? (Ubuntu server 14.04) -- /etc/network/interfaces -- http://pastebin.com/DFZMcbTP
[19:00] <Peter_Graves> Has anyone ever verified the signature?
[19:03] <Peter_Graves> Sorry. mIRC just crashed on me.  Stoopid windows.  Sorry but having to use a winblows computer ATM.
[19:03] <annihilator> how do you start gnome from terminal?  i know kde and lxdm is startkde and startlxde but what is gnome?
[19:04] <Mathisen> annihilator, gnome-session
[19:04] <Mathisen>  i think
[19:07] <Pici> Peter_Graves: hmm.. Unfortunately I don't have those messages setup anywhere here for me to verify from my mail client... pulling them from lists.ubuntu.com is clearly missing something.
[19:07] <JakesDen> Does anyone know a good beginers guide to linux audiobook?
[19:07] <annihilator> oh Mathisen that did not work
[19:07] <Mathisen> annihilator, run gdm first then
[19:08] <Peter_Graves> Pici: Try this link:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2016-August/003527.html
[19:08] <Peter_Graves> At the bottom is a URL to the signature.
[19:08] <JakesDen> Anyone?
[19:08] <Peter_Graves> Pici: if you want that is.
[19:14] <rethus> EriC^^ didn't work.
[19:14] <rethus> ls show directories, not partitions
[19:14] <Dukas> hey guys
[19:18] <Guest34814> hola
[19:18] <Guest34814> -_-
[19:18] <Guest34814> hallo
[19:18] <Guest34814> hello
[19:18] <Guest34814> jjalou
[19:19] <Guest34814> °_°
[19:19] <elias_a> Guest34814: !ask
[19:19] <Guest34814> (. )( .)
[19:19] <elias_a> !ask
[19:19] <Guest34814>   )  )
[19:20] <Guest34814> i think that no many people really reading this
[19:21] <DArqueBishop> !ot | Guest34814
[19:22] <Guest34814> so, someone here use playonlinux under mate desktop on ubuntu?
[19:23] <te_lanus> I do
[19:24] <Guest34814> and u were able to install every game?
[19:24] <xpistos> Hey guys, I am trying to add a third monitor to my lenovo ideapad but no luck. I add two externals (one vga and one hdmi) in mirrored and no issues. If I try to extend them however, then I get and error "GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2: could not set the configuration for CRTC 65" and back down to one. It usually wants the VGA unless I unplug it then it picks up the HDMI with no problem. I am using ub
[19:25] <xpistos> Or back down to two rather
[19:26] <OerHeks> leo-ren, for application support, you better ask ​#playonlinux
[19:26] <leo-ren> did u got it before?
[19:27] <UbuntuM8> So anyone have any advisories for games on a gaming computer running ubuntu linux
[19:27] <OerHeks> UbuntuM8, steam, wine, playonlinux or check the games section in softwarecenter
[19:28] <UbuntuM8> Any favorite games. Like specific games
[19:28] <leo-ren> OerHeks, is not support, i just wanna know some some experience
[19:29] <OerHeks> i do support only , polling is a waste of time, experience gaming yourself
[19:29] <leo-ren> by the way... software center is not pre installed on ubuntu-mate?
[19:30] <leo-ren> again, i dont care the games, i try to get the ideas from users :)
[19:31] <te_lanus> leo-ren: I use PlayonLinux as a software virtualization centre. Create  wins prefix, run installer (mostly GOG) and add a link into Pol, then use that linky in Lutris to start the game
[19:33] <leo-ren> te_lanus, and i supose that u were using ubuntu... right?
[19:38] <te_lanus> yip on Mate 16.04 with Mate 1.14.1 and Kernel 4.4.0
[19:38] <george2002> hello!!!! channel!!! gimp español?
[19:39] <leo-ren> hw?
[19:39] <gebbione> if anyone has any suggestion regarding this radeon issue ping me - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333400
[19:40] <kittykitty> anyone know how to get ffmpeg to output to stdout? Having a little issue
[19:41] <leo-ren> capture /dev/stdout | ffmpeg -i may be....
[19:42] <leo-ren> too much time out of linux world :)
[19:42] <te_lanus> leo-ren: I've got an ancient Dual core with a NVidia gt 240
[19:43] <kittykitty> leo-ren, capture isnt a program i can run?
[19:45] <kittykitty> looks like capture isnt defined or doesnt exist leo-ren
[19:46] <leo-ren> let me apt-cahcesearche it :)
[19:48] <leo-ren> u right, is not there anymore :(
[19:48] <anton__> I just installed Ubuntu 16.04, tried Kodi, and observerd that DTS support seems to be gone...
[19:49] <leo-ren> i apologize :(
[19:49] <kittykitty> :(
[19:49] <kittykitty> apparently you can just put pipe:1 on the end??
[19:49] <kittykitty> oooohhhh! it worked but i have to set the output to avi
[19:49] <leo-ren> lol
[19:49] <leo-ren> very nice :)
[19:50] <kittykitty> thanks leo-ren <3 !
[19:50] <leo-ren>  ;)
[19:50] <leo-ren> but i dont know what do i do to help lol
[19:51] <root777> wow
[19:51] <tyler_d> lol
[19:51] <root777> does someone have secret channels?
[19:52] <root777> tor maybe!
[19:52] <tyler_d> root777: what do you mean "secret"
[19:52] <OerHeks> plenty.
[19:52] <root777> give me one
[19:52] <tyler_d> there are no such things on the internet... maybe on the onion
[19:52] <OerHeks> But i am not going to tell .. they are secret.
[19:52] <OerHeks> !ot
[19:52] <tyler_d> sure... #mysecretchannel
[19:53] <root777> oh really .so how can i join when dont know
[19:53] <tyler_d> I think OerHeks has a valid point for root777 and leo-ren
[19:53] <root777> tyle_d what do  mean ?
[19:54] <tyler_d> !ot > root777
[19:54] <leo-ren> it mean that u are speaking about secret chanels and onion, and me about ffmpeg, nothing related with ubuntu
[19:56] <root777> ok yeah it told me
[19:56] <root777> tnx
[19:56] <leo-ren> another point to me  ;)
[19:57] <patrask> is the main-repo for ARM not officially supported by the ubuntu security team?
[19:58] <OerHeks> patrask, what makes you think it is not?
[19:59] <DocMAX> i have ubuntu 16, but zarafa is running only on 14. can i virtualize this app?
[19:59] <DocMAX> within ubuntu 16. no extra vm.
[20:01] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: Not quite sure I understand the question - can you be more clear, please?
[20:01] <leo-ren> i cant find the ubuntu software center over ubuntu-mate, is removed from ubuntu? or just this distro?
[20:02] <patrask> OerHeks: several popular packages seems to not have gotten security updates for non-x86 archs
[20:02] <patrask> OerHeks: eg. http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/firefox and http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/nginx-core
[20:02] <YankDownUnder> leo-ren: No, it's there
[20:02] <DocMAX> YankDownUnder, i have softer that is only designed for ubuntu 14
[20:02] <DocMAX> but i want the latest ubuntu
[20:02] <OerHeks> patrask, FF 48 is current
[20:03] <DocMAX> how can i run this software in ubuntu 16
[20:03] <OerHeks> !info firefox
[20:03] <MelRay> Hey everyone ubuntu 16.04 LTS ubuntu software says no application data? Had this lappie lock up and had to do power down and reboot. Now it seems to be missing the application data. How do I correct this?
[20:03] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: Would it be a consideration to run 14.04 in a VM and use 16.04 as your primary host system?
[20:03] <patrask> OerHeks: scroll down and look at the curren version in each architecture -- firefox is at 45.0.2
[20:03] <patrask> for armhf
[20:04] <DocMAX> YankDownUnder, only if vm is small
[20:04] <patrask> and other non-x86
[20:04] <DocMAX> something like docker
[20:04] <DocMAX> chroot berhaps?
[20:04] <DocMAX> perhaps
[20:04] <DocMAX> or is there some better way?
[20:04] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: Well, "Docker" is definitely an option!
[20:04] <DocMAX> yes but it doesnt work in docker
[20:05] <OerHeks> patrask, that is not correct, look @ xenial updates >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/firefox
[20:05] <DocMAX> i want to run https://www.zarafa.com/
[20:05] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: "Doesn't work in Docker" - I'm not clear on what you're saying/meaning - can you be more specific?
[20:05] <popey> DocMAX: is that even maintained anymore? looks abandoned
 ty bro :)
[20:05] <DocMAX> https://hub.docker.com/r/leckerbeef/zarafa/
[20:06] <DocMAX> doesnt work = the deamons are running
[20:06] <DocMAX> ports 80 and 443 exported
[20:06] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: So then why not run this in a vm and have the vm run in "seamless" mode?
[20:06] <DocMAX> but i get SSL errors
[20:06] <patrask> OerHeks: ah! thank you :)
[20:07] <DocMAX> YankDownUnder = vm = ?
[20:07] <DocMAX> vm = docker?
[20:07] <DocMAX> vm = chroot?
[20:07] <DocMAX> vm = qemu
[20:07] <DocMAX> ?
[20:07] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: vm = "virtual machine" -> but either which, you're now saying that you're getting "port" errors?
[20:07] <DocMAX> docker
[20:07] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: vm = Qemu or Virtualbox
[20:08] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: And Docker is easy enough to install - and fast to install
[20:08] <Pici> DocMAX: What sort of SSL errors?
[20:08] <DocMAX> i was wondering if i can have a seamless ubuntu 14 environment in ubuntu 16
[20:09] <DocMAX> on port 80 -> white page, endles hourglass
[20:09] <DocMAX> port 443 -> SSL CERTIFICATE TOO LONG or something
[20:09] <DocMAX> i will restart in docker and tell you
[20:10] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: With VirtualBox, it would be very easy and very fast...you don't have to have a huge VM created - just the basics
[20:10] <DocMAX> YankDownUnder, but in virtualbox or similar i will have everything dubbled
[20:11] <DocMAX> i want it as a layer over the host
[20:12] <DocMAX> ok port 80: SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG
[20:12] <YankDownUnder> DocMAX: I am merely suggesting resolutions to your issue...you might have to concede that there are no other options. If the software runs specifically on 14.04, and cannot or will not port to 16.04, you have to make a decision based on what your priority is.
[20:12] <DocMAX> port 443: SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER -> ignore -> endless hourglass white page
[20:13] <DocMAX> if you have docker, just download from hub
[20:13] <DocMAX> load and export some ports
[20:14] <hitman> hi
[20:19] <notty>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER notty nexstsbzpsgy
[20:19] <Pici> notty: try without the space
[20:19] <Pici> (and to everyone else, its not a password)
[20:20] <notty> yeah, thanks
[20:20] <OerHeks> it worked :-)
[20:22] <leo-ren> .
[20:22] <leo-ren> =
[20:25] <hara> do anyone know If I can run python IDLE in mozilla?
[20:26] <hara> ubuntu 16.04
[20:26] <theMINUSbros360n> hello im new to linux (couple weeks since i first used it) and i was wondering if theres any way to code in batch besides batch being windows only i can save files as .bat and send them to my windows pc and it works but is there anyway i can open and play batch files on Ubuntu
[20:26] <hara> you can use wine. It's a windows emulator. @theMinusbros360n
[20:27] <hara> search it up in software center if you're on ubuntu
[20:27] <tgm4883> hara: I feel compelled to point out that wine is not an emulator
[20:27] <theMINUSbros360n> its virtual box
[20:27] <hara> well sorry for the honest mistake @tgm4883
[20:27] <hara> Yes sir, my bad :P
[20:28] <tgm4883> it's not a virtual box
[20:28] <tgm4883> it's a compatibility layer
[20:29] <hara> yes, it's a compatibility layer to run windows app on linux
[20:29] <hara> just read the description on software center :P
[20:29] <zteam> theMINUSbros360n, well you could try DosBox I guess, but if your BAT-file does use commands like copy and del you probably need to copy these either from FreeDos or a Windows machine
[20:29] <theMINUSbros360n> oh ok i mean i also have windows on this desktop as a separate partition but i want to learn to use linux
[20:30] <tmsbrg> hey everyone. I'm very confused. I had java installed, then tries to upgrade to jdk 9 which didn't work and then I installed jdk 8 again, but now my system can't find java, see this: http://pastebin.com/x3keZ8Uz
[20:30] <tmsbrg> s/tries/tried
[20:30] <Pici> theMINUSbros360n: Also, Linux generally does not use Windows batch files at all. The 'batch'-like language that Linux uses mainly is bash.
[20:30] <theMINUSbros360n> oh ok and i need help real quick
[20:30] <theMINUSbros360n> dom@domics-530:~$ sudo apt-get install -y wine1.7
[20:30] <theMINUSbros360n> Reading package lists... Done
[20:30] <theMINUSbros360n> Building dependency tree
[20:30] <theMINUSbros360n> Reading state information... Done
[20:30] <theMINUSbros360n> Package wine1.7 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:31] <leo-ren>   :)
[20:31] <zteam> theMINUSbros360n, on Linux you usually run BASH, instead of Batch, Bash is very much more powerful
[20:31] <hara> You can just sudo apt-get install wine. It will install.
[20:31] <hara> well, atleast it does on my machine.
[20:31] <theMINUSbros360n> ok it says wine has no install canadite, what does that mean?
[20:32] <theMINUSbros360n> candadite*
[20:32] <leo-ren> apt-get install wine:i386 better ;)
[20:32] <OerHeks> what guide are you using? if you *need* such fancy wine version, use playonlinux
[20:32] <theMINUSbros360n> candadite**
[20:32] <leo-ren> it install both
[20:32] <zteam> theMINUSbros360n, do you have all repositories enabled?
[20:32] <OerHeks> !info wine
[20:32] <hara> yes. all sources enabled.
[20:32] <theMINUSbros360n>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[20:33] <theMINUSbros360n> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:33] <theMINUSbros360n> thats what it said
[20:33] <hara> do sudo. for permission denied
[20:33] <theMINUSbros360n> ok thx
[20:33] <theMINUSbros360n> thanks it worked :D
[20:33] <gtrt05> anybody know how to get the nautilus status bar back?
[20:34] <hara> @gtrt05 install :
[20:34] <hara> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/experiments
[20:34] <hara> sudo apt-get update
[20:34] <hara> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:34] <hara> nautilus -q
[20:34] <theMINUSbros360n> also is there any way to move the tool bar to the bottom of screen
[20:34] <gtrt05> i did that already
[20:34] <hara> or you can revert to original Nautilus by :
[20:34] <hara> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[20:34] <hara> sudo ppa-purge ppa:webupd8team/experiments
[20:34] <hara> nautilus -q
[20:35] <hara> did it not work?
[20:35] <leo-ren> omg ubuntu-mate do not use nautilus, it uses caja... (just for some interested to know)
[20:35] <theMINUSbros360n> hey also is there any way to move the tool bar to the bottom of screen
[20:35] <gtrt05> hara did i do it wrong i did both of them
[20:36] <zteam> theMINUSbros360n, try with Unity tweak tool
[20:36] <theMINUSbros360n> ok thanks @zteam
[20:36] <leo-ren> may be is intresting to uninstall caja and install nautilus, any advice?
[20:36] <zteam> theMINUSbros360n, sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[20:36] <tmsbrg> hm weird, "dpkg-query -L openjdk-8-jre-headless |grep 'java$'" shows it has a java executable, but it's hidden in /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java instead of being in /usr/bin
[20:37] <zteam> theMINUSbros360n, no problem
[20:37] <zteam> :-)
[20:39] <tmsbrg> reinstalling openjdk-8-jre-headless shows this warning: "update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/jvm/java-9-openjdk-amd64/bin/java (part of link group java) doesn't exist; removing from list of alternatives"
[20:39] <tmsbrg> alternatives is being buggy I think
[20:41] <theMINUSbros360n> zteam, that worked so thank you and what is the "super" key?
[20:42] <michauds> theMINUSbros360n: "Windows" button on certain keyboards
[20:42] <theMINUSbros360n> michauds: that makes since :|
[20:43] <tmsbrg> btw the openjdk 9 package is bugged as hell when I tried it. Couldn't get it to install because both jre and jre-headless tried to install the same file. Now I removed them and they don't even remove their alternatives correctly
[20:43] <Vy7au7as> Hello guys, time to time I have wifi disconnect problem, can you look at this: http://bit.ly/wifi_problem
[20:43] <tmsbrg> now alternatives thinks I can only use jdk 9 which doesn't exist
[20:45] <Vy7au7as> How to solve this wifi disconnecting problem?: http://bit.ly/wifi_problem
[20:46] <leo-ren> #ask... im try to made an live usb with rufus and follow the steps of ubuntu page, but i got a "failed extracting the ISO image" message, do u sovle something like that?
[20:47] <theMINUSbros360n> hey does anyone have a link straight to ubuntu 32 bit download
[20:47] <theMINUSbros360n> as .isc file
[20:48] <tgm4883> theMINUSbros360n: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[20:48] <tmsbrg> manually doing `sudo update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java" 1` fixed my problem
 htat link was for me??
[20:50] <leo-ren> that*
[20:50] <Vy7au7as> Guys, how to solve this wifi problem?: http://bit.ly/wifi_problem maby need more information, just tell
[20:51] <leo-ren> ^
[20:51] <tgm4883> !patience | Vy7au7as
[20:51] <theMINUSbros360n> tgm4883: you just helped me out soooo much
[20:51] <leo-ren> lol
[20:51] <wish^> Can anyone help me with some random crashes i am experiencing in Ubuntu, the operating seems to crash at random times while the mouse is still responsive, nothing is clickable. It seems like it may be the gui or screen driver that stops working. What is the best way to diagnose this=?
[20:52] <lone-genius> hey lol its me again
[20:52] <theMINUSbros360n> i have to go bye
[20:52] <OerHeks> Vy7au7as, i don't visit bit.ly, what is the real url?
[20:52] <leo-ren> #ask... im try to made an live usb with rufus and follow the steps of ubuntu page, but i got a "failed extracting the ISO image" message, do u sovle something like that?
[20:53] <Vy7au7as> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QMQ0tHAHPMmMkdH5lE6OFWWGq7PmPXWQRbyNsl7u7u0/edit
[20:53] <lone-genius> so what is that program that lets me make a live usb again?....like i have ubuntu 16.04 lts and its built in program only works with ubuntu live usbs
[20:54] <EriC^^> lone-genius: startup disk creator?
[20:55] <lone-genius> yeah but that only works for ubuntu live cds
[20:55] <feg5> hello. i'm using ubuntu wiley running nginx, apache and mysql. the server has 128GB of RAM. a scheduled task for one website was throwing "Segmentation fault" errors. I thought it was just isolated to that application but now system tasks are throwing the same errors. how do i get to the bottom of the issue? is it hardware related?
[20:55] <OerHeks> lone-genius, dd the iso
[20:56] <popey> feg5: what changed?
[20:56] <lone-genius> will that work with parrot OS?
[20:56] <popey> feg5: software or hardware?
[20:56] <feg5> popey: that's the crazy thing, nothing has changed for months. the server hasn't even been updated
[20:56] <genii> !info remastersys
[20:56] <genii> Hm
[20:57] <DArqueBishop> feg5: I'd recommend running a memory test or do a SMART check on the hard drives.
[20:57] <OerHeks> parrot os, no idea
[20:59] <leo-ren> #ask... im try to made an live usb with rufus and follow the steps of ubuntu page, but i got a "failed extracting the ISO image" message, do u sovle something like that?
[20:59] <tgm4883> leo-ren: did you check the md5sum of the downloaded ISO
[20:59] <leo-ren> ammm nop
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> leo-ren: It would appear as though the ISO image may be corrupt...
[21:00] <leo-ren> but i donwloader 3 times, and 3 times where the same, do u think that was the source?
[21:00] <leo-ren> downloaded*
[21:01] <tgm4883> leo-ren: the only way to know would be for you to check the ISO
[21:01] <YankDownUnder> leo-ren: You're running Windows - have you thought to do a "chkdsk /f c:" on that drive - just to make sure that the errors might not be "local"?
[21:01] <OerHeks> how do you tell they are the same?
[21:04] <leo-ren> nop, no drive errors
[21:04] <feg5> DArqueBishop thanks
[21:05] <OerHeks> leo-ren, check if that usb device is fat32
[21:05] <leo-ren> yep
[21:05] <OerHeks> then trow it away.
[21:06] <leo-ren> yep, i will
[21:07] <YankDownUnder> Might be a good idea to blow out the partition(s) on the USB, re-create a parition (MBR) and format it (not doing a QuickFormat) for FAT32 and try again... leo-ren?
[21:07] <Backwards> I wouldn't suggest throwing away a device when it could be used for a different purpose.
[21:07] <leo-ren> by the way, ubuntu-mate doesnt give me problems in same drive
[21:07] <leo-ren> both downloaded today
[21:08] <androOne> Pendrive oses arent upto the mark
[21:08] <YankDownUnder> leo-ren: Then you've just narrowed it down to the ISO....if you're going to download the ISO again - use BitTorrent instead of a direct download.
[21:09] <OerHeks> mea culpa Backwards, make it a doorstop
[21:09] <leo-ren> good point <YankDownUnder>, i didnt format the drive, i trust absolutly on rufus....
[21:09] <ikonia> win 14
[21:09] <androOne> @ikonia is this how u tag someone?
[21:10] <ikonia> no, it was just a typo
[21:10] <YankDownUnder> leo-ren: Do *not* trust any programs - that's not really a good thing, mate...especially if they're running under *ANY* MS OS...
[21:10] <ikonia> androOne just say someones name
[21:10] <YankDownUnder> Hehehee...Win14 - same as Win2000, but we've put more pearls on the pig! ;)
[21:10] <androOne> thx ikonia
[21:10] <Backwards> FAT is File Allocation Table. It supports files up to 2 Terabytes.  However, just disk clean the hard drive and put a new Operating System.
[21:11] <leo-ren> lol sorry, its just 12 months without my debian and i dont remember even how to write su </3
[21:11] <androOne> windows is painless tho
[21:11] <leo-ren> well, gtg, ty for the idea <YankDownUnder> :)
[21:11] <androOne> Fixes most.problems.by itself
[21:12] <Backwards> OerHeks that is an interesting suggestion. Door stop.  hehe
[21:12] <androOne> Ppl with ubuntu end up formatting drive within.6months
[21:12] <Backwards> Maybe a Book End.
[21:12] <YankDownUnder> Backwards: A USB bookend...hmm...*that* sounds interesting...(brain is starting to work again this morning) ;)
[21:13]  * Backwards nods to the YankDownUnder. :)
[21:15] <Backwards> Anytime I install Linux or Ubuntu, I always disk wipe the hard drive. That is key to a better install. Don't let ubuntu format the disk without Disk Cleaning.
[21:16] <OerHeks> the installer gives an option to completely wipe the disk and writing fresh mbr
[21:16] <Backwards> That is a different story OerHeks.
[21:16] <Backwards> I don't trust the installer.
[21:17] <androOne> Lol
[21:17] <androOne> G2g
[21:17] <androOne> Good day
[21:17] <Backwards> I trust cleaning the hard drive and wiping it clean and do a DOD clean and erase any vestige of data on the drive. Start from the beginning. That works.
[21:18] <YankDownUnder> Backwards: From a point of having to deal with lots of "strange drives" in my biz, by "best practice", every drive I get my grubby hands on gets re-partitioned, wiped (doing a lovely byte-by-byte 0 injection), partitioned "yet again", formatted, then when happiness is achieved, prep'd and made ready for next install...great way of determining whether the drive is worthy for use - or not...
[21:18] <Backwards> The OS will always look for vestiges of data on the hard drive and bog down the drive and OS.
[21:19] <Backwards> YankDownUnder good point and well taken.
[21:20] <OerHeks> a pro would test the drive 24 hrs before use :-D
[21:20] <Backwards> I don't need my customers to bother me all day long to tell me there are problems. Do the job right the first time.
[21:21] <Backwards> OerHeks that is a good point. Testing the Hard Drive is very important for its integrity.
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> Backwards: Oh yeah! - "Fix it right. Fix it now. Fix it right now" - used to be on my bizzo cards...
[21:21] <JuJuBee> I cannot seem to make a bootable usb stick with xubuntu-16.04.1 amd64 iso.  I have checked the md5 against website and it matches.  I keep getting dropped to a boot: prompt
[21:22] <KodiakFi> Hey folks, Red Hat sysadmin here - not sure where to file this since we're a RHEL shop but I figure I should let Ubuntu/Canonical know that this is also broken for Ubuntu (it's getting fixed in RHEL when 7.3 drops)  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1255507
[21:22] <KodiakFi> Any idea where I should send that to get it in front of the right Ubuntu people?
[21:22] <Backwards> YankDownUnder you have just graduated from the school of Backwards Hard Drives.
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> JuJuBee: Have you partitioned and formatted the USB and checked it before creating the liveUSB?
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> Backwards: ;)
[21:23] <JuJuBee> The usb creator formatted for me.  I have used the same usb stick with 14.04 as a test and that works.
[21:23] <JuJuBee> YankDownUnder: ^^
[21:24] <OerHeks> KodiakFi, do you have a cve ?
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> JuJuBee: It's a great idea to re-partition and re-format the USB before letting the "USB Creator" do it for you...USB's do not last forever, and it's easy enough to corrupt the file system.
[21:25] <Gallomimia> !info linux-firmware
[21:25] <KodiakFi> OerHeks - it's not security related - it's just something upstream broke, that Red Hat just unbroke for me - I happened to also test w/ 16.04 since I had it running, and it's also broken for Ubuntu.  I still have a Ubuntu One account from my old life so I'm on launchpad now
[21:25] <JuJuBee> YankDownUnder: I will give that a try.  Does it matter how I fomat ext4 etc... and how large partition?  since usb creator will do it again?
[21:25] <Gallomimia> bah. no link ubottu?
[21:26] <mustmodify> Hey team.
[21:26] <YankDownUnder> JuJuBee: Partition should be "MBR" and the formatting should be Fat32 => you really don't need anything larger than a 4gb partition...
[21:26] <KodiakFi> oh wow, there's #ubuntu-bugs
[21:26] <KodiakFi> I'll go chat over there
[21:26] <mustmodify> I'm installing Ubuntu after my previous drive had a small electrical event. http://ft.trillian.im/85353d38f4d2f94dfd75830e8d48517cc62ddc94/6JFolEmqp9EDgG9uArygIxoTS1LRi.jpg
[21:26] <OerHeks> KodiakFi, check out debian first, i guess
[21:27] <mustmodify> One issue I had last time was that I couldn't do a full memory test. I can't remember why but it seemed like I chose some option and that put me in a place where I couldn't test all the memory. Or it might have been that I had hardware that was too new and wasn't supported?
[21:28] <Backwards> YankDownUnder, another good point. USB devices do have what is deterioration of the magnetics.
[21:28] <Gallomimia> an update to package linux-firmware. sounds interesting. what does it do??
[21:28] <mustmodify> Anyone know what that might have been? If so I'd like to correct it as I install. :)
[21:28] <Backwards> https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080207035901AAFGnHm
[21:30] <JuJuBee> YankDownUnder: do you prefer unetbootin or usb creator ?
[21:30] <YankDownUnder> JuJuBee: That's a point of "preference" - I prefer Unetbootin - for fast/quick stuff...and for it's "options"...
[21:31] <JuJuBee> YankDownUnder: maybe I'll try that this time
[21:31] <orlock> " USB devices do have what is deterioration of the magnetics."?
[21:31] <orlock> *cough*
[21:31] <Backwards> MustModify nobody here knows what the "small electrical event" means. Did lightning strike your house?
[21:32] <orlock> You mean flash eventually turns read-only (usually)
[21:32] <mustmodify> Did you get a link to that picture? I don't know what happened, but the electrical end of my SSD looks like it ... uh ... was on fire?
[21:32] <orlock> mustmodify: Anything else in the house have issues?
[21:32] <mustmodify> I don't know. It was working yesterday. When I got to my office this morning, the drive was dead.
[21:33] <mustmodify> no
[21:33] <Backwards> Call the Fire Department and hose it down. :)
[21:33] <mustmodify> in fact, the rest of the machine, including another SSD, are fine.
[21:33] <mustmodify> is fine?
[21:33] <Backwards> How can it be fine after you said it smoked and has issues?
[21:34] <orlock> mustmodify: damn - if you wipe away the black stuff, are the pins/fingers still there? its hard to tell
[21:34] <Backwards> If it is on fire, shut the thing down.
[21:34] <Backwards> Replace it.
[21:34] <mustmodify> Backwards: The drive pictured above is certainly not fine.
[21:34] <Backwards> Do you want to burn your house down?
[21:34] <mustmodify> The rest of the machine seems to be fine.
[21:34] <orlock> Backwards: Are you thick, or a troll?
[21:35] <mustmodify> I also replaced the power supply, if that matters, since it was one of those two parts that caused the problem.
[21:35] <orlock> mustmodify: Honestly, i'd be verrrrry suspicious of the PSU, and would through it out
[21:35] <Backwards> Even Laptop lithium batteries catch file.
[21:35] <mustmodify> orlock: I did.
[21:35] <orlock> Backwards: ALmost anything will, you just have to try hard enough.
[21:35] <mustmodify> assuming that's Power Supply Unit
[21:36] <orlock> mustmodify: Yeah.. what brand/age?
[21:36] <Backwards> I read that a cell phone cought fire in a kids pants. He had to go to the Hospital.
[21:36] <mustmodify> ok do I want UEFI mode or "BIOS compatibility mode"? It's presumably asking because the other hard drive, which is only used to store data now, previously had an OS on it.
[21:37] <Backwards> If you don't believe it read this: https://www.google.com/#q=cell+phone+catches+fire+in+pocket
[21:37] <mustmodify> I don't care about booting to that other drive.
[21:37] <mustmodify> the PSU? Let me see....
[21:38] <Backwards> I don't trust any electronic or electrical device unless I inspect it myself.
[21:38] <mustmodify> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170018
[21:38] <mustmodify> probably 3 or 4 years old. Don't remember exactly.
[21:39] <mustmodify> so uh... UEFI mode?
[21:39] <Backwards> YankDownUnder said it right.
[21:39] <orlock> Backwards: So you are an EE?
[21:39] <Backwards> Yes.
[21:41] <Backwards> Orlock I have 5 Masters Degrees in Engineering.
[21:43] <orlock> Backwards:  From places you actually had to attend, or what?
[21:43] <Backwards> Of course.
[21:44] <orlock> What areas?
[21:44]  * orlock works in a building with about 400 engineers of various types
[21:44] <Backwards> I attended R.E.T.S School of Electronics. Radio Electronics Television School. That was years ago.
[21:45] <Backwards> I am A+ Certified. Lifetime Certification.
[21:45] <Backwards> Master Technician in Radio & Electronics.
[21:45] <Backwards> CCNA Certified.
[21:46] <orlock> So you should be able to explain what you meant by "USB devices do have what is deterioration of the magnetics."?
[21:46] <Backwards> Of course.
[21:46] <orlock> you mean CompTIA A+?
[21:46] <Backwards> The magnetic domains of the magnetic medium deteriorates with the Earth
[21:47] <promet> I've installed network-manager-openvpn (and openvpn itself), which I thought was supposed to give the option to import .ovpn configs in network-manager gui. I still only see "ptpp" vpn option though.
[21:47] <Backwards> The Earth's magnetic influence changes the  magnetic domains of all hard drives and all magnetic media.
[21:47] <orlock> Ok, i call troll
[21:47] <mustmodify> Second
[21:48] <Backwards> Orlock insulting a person here is trolling.
[21:49] <Rapture> but he's A+ certified ya'll!!
[21:49] <mustmodify> don't do it! :P
[21:49] <orlock> Not one mention of the curie point
[21:49] <orlock> And that still has nothing to do with a USB flash drive
[21:49] <mustmodify> ok I need a recommendation.
[21:50] <Rapture> for?
[21:50] <orlock> Spreading misinformation on a channel used generally to support the less-technically apt is bad, mmkay
[21:50] <Backwards> Orlock if you are looking for an argument, you are not getting one from me. I don't dignify foolishness. End of statement.
[21:50] <mustmodify> I installed Linux Server.  I need to run a browser. But I didn't want the full GUI just for that.
[21:50] <orlock> and if you were actually an engineer, you would be more precise with your statements
[21:50] <Backwards> You would be a better person.
[21:50] <mustmodify> I use this machine as a dev box and as a heads-up display. So I just need to run Chrome. Any suggestions?
[21:51] <orlock> Backwards: Not after an argument, just wanted an explination of a statements you made that appeared to either be coming from a troll, or somebody trying to spread misinformation for some reason
[21:51] <JuJuBee> YankDownUnder: thanks for the tip to repartition/format It worked and I am now booted from usb stick.
[21:51] <orlock> mustmodify: There's ways to do it, none of them great
[21:51] <orlock> mustmodify: There's a few text mode browsers
[21:52] <Rapture> @mustmodify, check out something called portable linux apps. A quick google search should get you on track
[21:52] <orlock> mustmodify: There's ways to run a gui style browser without the full X server, but thay are non-trivial and made for embedded devices
[21:52] <Rapture> @mustmodify: http://appimage.org/
[21:53] <Rapture> not sure that's what you are looking for
[21:53] <mustmodify> I'm not against installing X, etc., just don't want to also install open office, a calculator, and 15 games just to get my browser running. Want to keep what I can open for dev resources.
[21:53] <mustmodify> I'll check out your recommendations. Thanks.
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> JuJuBee: Coolbeans
[21:57] -l33tc0der:#ubuntu- Praise and glory be to the ghost of Adolf Hitler
[21:58] <mustmodify> So this machine had two drives.
[21:59] <mustmodify> The first burnt. The other seemed fine, and I can mount /dev/sda1. But when I try to mount /dev/sda2, I get "unable to read superblock."
[21:59] <mustmodify> Can I rebuild superblocks?
[22:00] <mustmodify> I think it's an ext2 volume, whereas my new drive is ext4, if that matters.
[22:00] <orlock> mustmodify: There's copies of the superblock stored at an offset
[22:00] <jerichowasahoax> Is it possible for me to get systemd to start Service A when Service B is started, and then stop Service A automatically if service B is stopped?
[22:00] <orlock> mustmodify: what does fdisk -l /dev/sda show?
[22:00] <jerichowasahoax> Objective: Service A's "start/stop" commands are just "ufw allow <port>" and "ufw delete allow <port>"
[22:01] <Bashing-om> mustmodify: I do not think ext2 will be a factor, A superblock switch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177756
[22:01] <mustmodify> orlock: https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/b7a7e409290ca78aa6864439b5d0c7b5
[22:02] <orlock> Ahh
[22:02] <orlock> mount /dev/sda5 instead
[22:02] <orlock>  sda2 is just an extended partition
[22:03] <mustmodify> orlock: unknown filesystem type LVM2_member
[22:03] <orlock> it essentially just contains other partitions so you can have more than 4
[22:03] <JuJuBee> Anybody have any experience with a laptop from system76 ?
[22:03] <JuJuBee> Looking for a new laptop and considering them
[22:03] <orlock> mustmodify: ok,  so its a member of an LVM volume,  just means you need to run a few commands to tell the system about it
[22:04] <mustmodify> oh? Good because that seemed like a total mess to me. :)
[22:04] <orlock> mustmodify: google "mounting an LVM drive from another system" or similar
[22:05] <orlock> LVM's split into a few layers -  physical volumes, volume groups, and logical volumes
[22:05] <orlock> so its not as trivial as just mounting
[22:06] <orlock> but it lets you do things like add extra storage and expans them on the fly
[22:12] <Backwards> Orlock what is your point in logging into my IRC server?
[22:12] <Backwards> I never invited you.
[22:13] <orlock> Just wondering if you are giving the same quality mis-information there, or maybe just giggling over your trolling skills.
[22:13] <sahaj-jain> hi
[22:13] <Backwards> Orlock I don't appreciate you logging in without permission.
[22:14] <orlock> Backwards: This is off topic for the ubuntu support channel, take it elsewhere please.
[22:14] <Backwards> Orlock I will take it to the Internet Provider and put a ban on you.
[22:16] <mustmodify> LVM seems like a lot of trouble from this perspective.
[22:16] <Gallomimia> it can be
[22:16] <Gallomimia> especially if its on top of crypto
[22:16] <Gallomimia> but i find it pretty useful
[22:16] <Backwards> Orlock don't log onto my server. If you do, that would be a huge mistake.
[22:16] <Nitrigaur> I'm trying to upgrade to 16.04.1 but my root filesystem has not enough space for the upgrade. I have already enlarged my lvm-volume for root, but it still doesn't seem to detect that it has 30GB more than it used to have.
[22:17] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: you need to enlarge the partition on that LVM
[22:17] <BillTheKid> hello guys. I get to initramfs when I try to boot. I tried some of the tutorials online but did not work. any chance you could help me out?
[22:17] <Backwards> Orlock should be banned from this channel.
[22:18] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia, I have already done that, or it might just have been the volume group that I have enlarged and not the part. itself. LVM is a bit confusing to use, but the concept is great.
[22:18] <Backwards> Administrator sets mode: +b someguy!*orlock@en.crypt.net.au
[22:18] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: you only enlarged the logical volume
[22:18] <Gallomimia> Backwards: do you mind?
[22:19] <m4221|phone> orlock: hey
[22:19] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: next you must enlarge the filesystem itself. without erasing the files
[22:19] <Gallomimia> i forget how myself, but it's a simple process. google should tell you all about it
[22:20] <NinjaStyle> Backwards: eat shit
[22:20] <precise> Backwards pls report me too
[22:20] <Gallomimia> please hold the foul language for your other interactions. not allowed in here
[22:20] <precise> Ban me from ever using IPS again
[22:20] <Backwards> NinjaStyle take a long walk off a short pier.
[22:20] <BillTheKid> any help for the initfsram problem? :(
[22:20] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: resize2fs if it's an extN file system, where N is a natural number.
[22:20] <OerHeks> guys, move this to an other channel, keep this cannel free for ubuntu support, thanks.
[22:21] <precise> Backwards: back of my bro, NinjaStyle, fite me.
[22:21] <precise> OerHeks: We are just here to backup our buddy who was ruthlessly attacked by Backwards
[22:21] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: yeah what tomreyn said
[22:22] <Gallomimia> go troll elsewhere. let the ops do what they do.
[22:22] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia, this can probably only be done from a live-DVD and not from the same OS using that / partition
[22:22] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: ah you're correct. can't do it while its mounted. can't unmount it if its your root.
[22:22] <tomreyn> unless it's ext4, which does noline resizing just fine.
[22:23] <Gallomimia> does it?
[22:23] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, no, it's btrfs
[22:23] <m4221|phone> Is there any linux with a modern kernel that can run on i486?
[22:23] <precise> I'm not trolling, simply providing reenforcements Gallomimia :) That said, I will hold off any further pestering behavious ;)
[22:23] <tomreyn> oh, no idea then
[22:23] <precise> *behaviours
[22:23] <Mokuba_K> m4221|phone, gentoo?
[22:23] <Gallomimia> there's no such thing as "reinforcements" in here. there's support, and there's getting banned.
[22:23] <bigterd> smart log http://pastebin.com/rrRyWYLM hdparm http://pastebin.com/E0isztP9 dmesg after ddrescue http://pastebin.com/pMJSJvB5
[22:24] <OerHeks> m4221|phone, ubuntu server 32 bit, lubuntu perhaps
[22:24] <bigterd> ive tried cables, different ports, booting apci disabled, libata tricks, hdparm tunes, ddrescue with -c so low it copies at kilobytes/second, same result. minutes, if seconds, and drops out. controller?
[22:24] <orlock> Backwards: BTW, get your IRC server admin to kline me, thats how its done
[22:24] <precise> Thanks for the spelling correction Gallomimia ;)
[22:24] <bigterd> and, WD has no firmware update. :/
[22:25] <tomreyn> m4221|phone: the 2.6 linux branch wstill gets the occasional patches, it should build on 486. but then, why would you want to use such hardware nowadays? computer museum?
[22:25] <OerHeks> !ops | pls stop this > orlock
[22:25] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure if it is correct. but let's both stop wasting buffer for 1800+ people. also orlock and backwards too.
[22:25] <m4221|phone> tomreyn: kinda sorta yeah
[22:25] <BillTheKid> I'm unable to boot my box, I get initfsram screen. anyone willing to help out? pls?
[22:25] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: i dunno how to resize btrfs but, it might object to doing it live also
[22:26] <orlock> OerHeks: I'm not doing anything, i just asked Backwards to stop trolling people asking for help
[22:27]  * dax looks up
[22:27] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: what screen?? is there any error message? best way to...
[22:27] <tomreyn> BillTheKid: use the ubuntu installe rlive system to repair it. repairing is one of the options available on the boot screen of it.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> BillTheKid: My help depends .. UEFI? .. no experience . else . yeah good chance I can help .
[22:27] <Gallomimia> !fixboot | BillTheKid
[22:27] <Gallomimia> !boot-repair | BillTheKid
[22:27] <Nitrigaur> m4221|phone, (not to diss Ubuntu), but try Debian 32 bits, I think it should still support 486. You might have to roll your own kernel in order to include support for hardware not supported by default by the current kernels.
[22:27] <Gallomimia> blah.
[22:27] <Gallomimia> somewhere there's a default response to repairing the boot sequence
[22:28] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: you're late, he left
[22:28] <tomreyn> (maybe he felt insulted because i was too direct :-/ )
[22:28] <cupofbrew> How do I install flash for firefox via the command line?
[22:28] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, so I've noticed, thanks for the heads-up anyway :-)
[22:29] <cupofbrew> I don't want to install all of the restricted extras, just flash for my browser
[22:29] <Ben64> cupofbrew: sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[22:29] <BillTheKid> thanks for the responses. I am through live cd, I repaired it running fsck. I also tried to change superblock
[22:29] <OerHeks> info flashplugin-installer
[22:29] <cupofbrew> thanks ben64
[22:29] <BillTheKid> nothing worked :(
[22:30] <Gallomimia> you might update-grub
[22:30] <BillTheKid> when I do fdisk -l I see: http://pastebin.com/DgE1CWx2
[22:30] <BillTheKid> i tried to repair /dev/sda1
[22:31] <BillTheKid> am I doing it on the correct driver?
[22:31] <Gallomimia> that's the /boot
[22:31] <Gallomimia> yes
[22:31] <Gallomimia> the other partitions are just your LVM system
[22:31] <Gallomimia> seems to me it won't properly mount it.
[22:32] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia, tomreyn, it seems that btrfs even requires a partition to be mounted before being able to resize it.  I'm going to dig deeper to see how to do this safely with my setup using software RAID1 and lvm on top of that ...RAID1
[22:32] <Nitrigaur> ^ ignore the last "RAID1" here
[22:33] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: :i've had that problem a few times. your liveUSB can mount it and you can peek inside. check for /etc/fstab
[22:33] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: how can I mount it?
[22:33] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: you might also have to run mk-initramfs from inside a chroot
[22:33] <Gallomimia> if you like GUI, the Disks program is best
[22:34] <Gallomimia> if you have some command-line-fu best to take a ls of /dev/mapper/
[22:34] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I tried that, when I go to my disk, the sda1 is mounted, but sda2 and sda5 don't give the option
[22:34] <Gallomimia> sda2 is just a container for sda5
[22:35] <Gallomimia> and sda5 is the container for LVM
[22:35] <Gallomimia> you need to run LVM to see its contents
[22:35] <Gallomimia> can't just mount it directly
[22:36] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: you do not mount a partition - you mount file systems. i did not understand what you mean to say there.
[22:38] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, I meant the file system inside the paritition. Somehow my root FS doesn't show up with the command: sudo btrfs filesystem show
[22:38] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: again thanks a lot for helping me. I have no idea how to do this. I tried this: http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/296
[22:38] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: similar concept going on with Nitrigaur. good to follow along
[22:38] <BillTheKid> I get mount:  /dev/ubuntu-vg is not a block device
[22:39] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: oh. you're trying to mount the volume group, and not the logical volume
[22:39] <Gallomimia> press up arrow to repeat, then press / and then tab
[22:39] <Gallomimia> tab twice maybe
[22:39] <Gallomimia> that's what vg stands for inthat name
[22:40] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: basically the approach should be to boot the system from a live distro (you could use gparted-live for this purpose if you prefer a graphical interface, or just use the ubuntu installer / live iso). then enable all the lower block device layers needed (if any) to gain access to the btrfs one. then find out which command to use to resizea btrfs file system, and, not mounting (or previously unmounting) it, run those commands.
[22:40] <BillTheKid> this is what I typed: sudo mount /dev/volumegroup/ubuntu-vg mnt
[22:40] <user> So, I have a bad question to ask... I'm trying to install Windows on another machine using Ubuntu
[22:40] <user> I already have the correct ISO's
[22:41] <user> but everything I've tried does not boot on the other machine
[22:41] <user> and I have no idea how to move forward
[22:41] <jerichowasahoax> user: Is it Windows or Ubuntu that you want to boot to right now
[22:41] <user> jerichowasahoax, I'm trying to boot Windows
[22:41] <user> my ubuntu box is working fine
[22:41] <jerichowasahoax> user: /join ##windows
[22:41] <user> kk
[22:42] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, I have tried this, but this article states that you have to mount the FS in order to resize it (contrary to what you would expect): http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/175473/resize-a-btrfs-partition-inside-a-logical-lvm-volume
[22:42] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: correction this is what I did this is what I typed: sudo mount /dev/ubuntu-vg mnt
[22:43] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, in fact I just rebooted my box after having booted from a live-DVD in order to resize first the volume group and than the volume itself.
[22:44] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: that would try to mount the volgroup at /mnt
[22:44] <Gallomimia> you should probably use / in front of the mnt. and add the LV after the other
[22:44] <Gallomimia> how much of this command do you understand BillTheKid ?
[22:44] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, after  issueing a mount, I get amongst other lines, the following line: /dev/mapper/SSD_Statisch-Root on / type btrfs (rw,subvol=@)
[22:44] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I have no idea how LVM works
[22:45] <BillTheKid> I ended up using it because I think it was recommended on the installation
[22:45] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur:  i concur that apparently the btrfs has to be mounted to be resizable.
[22:45] <Gallomimia> the basics are simple. it manages virtual partitions which you can move around, take backups of, resize more easily
[22:45] <Nitrigaur> somehow, this volume does not show on sudo btrfs filesystem show. that's what puzzles me now.
[22:45] <BillTheKid> ok how do I mount it?
[22:46] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: sudo mount /dev/ubuntu-vg/(tab) /mnt
[22:46] <Gallomimia> press tab where it says tab. no ()
[22:46] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, in fact it is *the only* btrfs volume that isn't shown using that command...
[22:46] <Gallomimia> you have to find the right volume inside that directory
[22:46] <BillTheKid> root?
[22:48] <BillTheKid> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[22:48] <Gallomimia> huh. that's very interesting
[22:48] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: and 'mount' lists / as being btrfs, too?
[22:48] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I don't like it that you find it interesting :p
[22:48] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: sounds like you need to run an fs-check
[22:49] <Gallomimia> no. no it's not good that it's interesting
[22:49] <BillTheKid> with fix right?
[22:49] <Gallomimia> interesting means no normal
[22:49] <Gallomimia> i think fsck /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu--vg-root should give you some result
[22:49] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, yes, this is the literal line of mount that indicates that / is on a btrfs volume:  /dev/mapper/SSD_Statisch-Root on / type btrfs (rw,subvol=@)
[22:49] <Gallomimia> but we should ask others in the channel
[22:49] <BillTheKid> cause I did this earlier, but when I rebooted nothing.
[22:50] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, with the literal line of mount I mean the first line of the *output* of the command mount.
[22:50] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: this is what I tried: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/232-ubuntu-boot-failure-initramfs
[22:50] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: i guess i'm really lacking experience with btrfs and you should better work with someone who is into it
[22:51] <tomreyn> yes, i got that much ;)
[22:51] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: that only fsck's the /boot part. its only 250 megs
[22:51] <BillTheKid> right...
[22:51] <jdubu420> Hello :) When I start up Ununtu a "System Problem Detected, would you like to report this error" window opens repeatedly. How can I determine the source of the error / fix the error?
[22:52] <ADY_> Hi. I tryed to update my system from 14 to 16.04. Now it appears a sign that says "the system us running in low-graphics mode" and i can only access to the console
[22:52] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, still I appreciate you trying to help me. I 'll try to find help with someone else. I hope (s)he is available on this channel as that would make things a bit more simple
[22:52] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: are there any resources, anything that I can google to start fixing it? could it be faulty disk?
[22:53] <Gallomimia> no, i think it's just a lost file or something
[22:53] <BillTheKid> it's just that I have no clue where to start now
[22:53] <orlock> BillTheKid: you are the guy that had the fried drive?
[22:53] <Gallomimia> what did you do before this started happening?
[22:53] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: the drive shouldn't be fried. you can check one part of it.
[22:53] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: quite likely. maybe try some other time if you have no luck right now. also, gparted-live is still an option if you don't mind loosing the opportunity to learn how to do it on CLI.
[22:53] <BillTheKid> orlock: first time here
[22:54] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: you might search for "fsck lvm"
[22:54] <BillTheKid> I believe I updated the system yesterday
[22:54] <Gallomimia> ah yes.
[22:54] <Gallomimia> that happens, and the system forgets to install the mounting for your LVM
[22:54] <BillTheKid> the pc remained opened, it crashed today at one point. I forced rebooted after waiting half an hour
[22:54] <BillTheKid> I so "unmount" failed messages before the reboot
[22:54] <BillTheKid> after reboot, here I stand...
[22:54] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, I'm not afraid of the CLI, but I guess I am confused about the many logical layers underlying my current installation and the relation to LVM, btrfs and RAID
[22:55] <Bashing-om> ADY_: What does lshw say about a driver for the graphics ? ' sudo lshw -C display ' .. look in the configuration line .
[22:55] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i wonder what the filesystem type is inside your LVM. do you know?
[22:56] <BillTheKid> ext4 I think
[22:56] <orlock> Gallomimia: I got BillTheKid and mustmodify confused - mustmodify is looking at similar LVM issues, and had a literally fried drive - http://ft.trillian.im/85353d38f4d2f94dfd75830e8d48517cc62ddc94/6JFolEmqp9EDgG9uArygIxoTS1LRi.jpg
[22:56] <Gallomimia> why are you posting links from trillian's site/
[22:56] <ADY_> bashing-om, is the the VGA?. there it says: Inter corporation 2ndgeneration core processor family integratedgraphiccs controller (rev 09)
[22:56] <Gallomimia> wow. yep. that's a fried HD.
[22:57] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: yes those layers can always be quite confusing. making a quick drawing often does help.
[22:57] <amirite> how do i upgrade an existing ubuntu server from 14 to 16
[22:57] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: the instructions you followed last wrongly assumed you had no partitions in the filesystem
[22:58] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, I'm somewhat surprised that there seems to be no available tool that shows those layers graphically.
[22:58] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur: also look at where the symlinks in /dev/mapper and /dev/VGNAME (replacing 'VGNAME' by the name of an LVM2 volume group) point to and the output of "dmsetup ls"
[22:58] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i did a google search and the command i gave up there starting with fsck is the right one
[22:58] <ADY_> Bashing-om, it says. Warning: output may be incomplet or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user
[22:58] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: could you provide any reference? I can go through it and not bother you guys.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> ADY_: That is not even close to the output I had expected . Only 4 that I am aware of .. and short and to the point in that configuration line .
[22:59] <jdubu420> I am trying to understand the slow / hanging transfer to USB problem in Ubuntu. Can anyone explain these variables to me that are in sysctl.conf?
[22:59] <jdubu420> vm.dirty_background_ratio = 5
[22:59] <jdubu420> vm.dirty_ratio = 10
[22:59] <jdubu420> vm.swappiness = 10
[22:59] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: sudo fsck /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubunt(tab)
[22:59] <tomreyn> Nitrigaur:you'Re right, such a tool should indeed be vreated if it does not already exist (i am not aware of one).
[22:59] <ADY_> what should i d?
[22:59] <BillTheKid> the think is I have no ubunt in that folder
[22:59] <tomreyn> *created
[22:59]  * tomreyn off to bed, GLHF
[22:59] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: http://www.patrickmin.com/linux/tip.php?name=fsck_logical_volume
[23:00] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i can't remember what the name of your LV is. you have to fill it in. use tab completion
[23:00] <Gallomimia> !tab | BillTheKid
[23:00] <Nitrigaur> tomreyn, thanks for the help and good night :-)
[23:00] <Bashing-om> ADY_: Tun with sudo so that you are that super user ' sudo lshw -C display ' . give the system time to look at things and report .
[23:00] <BillTheKid> i know that and the only folders are: root and swap_1
[23:00] <V7> ubottu: 90% of cliesnt supports that :D
[23:00] <V7> oh
[23:01] <V7> :D
[23:01] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: you want the root one. swap is just for spare memory
[23:01] <ADY_> ok
[23:01] <BillTheKid> sudo fsck /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[23:01] <Gallomimia> V7: we're talking about tab completion in bash in this case
[23:01] <V7> Maybe BillTheKid's using cliesnt without TAB support :D
[23:01] <Tessan29> Hey. If I find a guide for something and it's meant for Xubuntu users, can I still do all the steps easily on Ubuntu and vice versa? Is the only differnece between the Ubuntu flavors the visual part? :/
[23:01] <V7> oh
[23:02] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: that should do what we need. let it run for a bit and see what it says
[23:02] <V7> Gallomimia: Roger, glhf !
[23:02] <Gallomimia> 40gig drive. should take 15 min
[23:02] <V7> 'cause Im goin bed too
[23:02] <BillTheKid> fsck from util-linux 2.27.1 e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root Could this be a zero-length partition?
[23:02] <Gallomimia> oh dear
[23:02]  * V7 says glhf for everyone ;)
[23:02] <Gallomimia> o/
[23:03] <V7> \o
[23:03] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: earlier on I did this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[23:03] <BillTheKid> first reply
[23:03] <EmeraldExplorer> As I don't know where else to ask this: I am learning Linear Algebra this school year (2016-2017), and I want to eventually learn AI (since usually Linear Algebra is a prerequisite). I have already coded with a couple of languages (mainly Python and Java). Would it be bad to try to learn other languages/concepts that would be useful for web development
[23:03] <EmeraldExplorer> before I am done with Linear Algebra, or would that just screw me up?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> ADY_: No driver loaded per that output ?
[23:04] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: how far did you get in that processs?
[23:04] <V7> EmeraldExplorer: php o.o ?
[23:04] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i do want to find what format your root filesystem is in
[23:04] <ADY_> physiscal id: 2,bus info: pci@0000:00:02,2, version: 09,width: 64bits, clock: 33MHz, capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_listrom
[23:04] <BillTheKid> I finished the process
[23:04] <Gallomimia>   /dev/sda2 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced
[23:04] <Gallomimia> that's the problem. it crashed and you hard booted it
[23:05] <ADY_> Bashing-om, Waht do you mean?
[23:05] <Tessan29> Hey. If I find a guide for something and it's meant for Xubuntu users, can I still do all the steps easily on Ubuntu and vice versa? Is the only differnece between the Ubuntu flavors the visual part? :/
[23:05] <BillTheKid> EmeraldExplorer: I work with Machine Learning. I'll ping you once I resolve my crasis
[23:05] <EmeraldExplorer> V7: no, what I am saying is would it be _worth_ it to try to learn other languages or other "sections" of programming, or would that just get me screwed up with so many things on my head?
[23:05] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: but you must remember, we don't want to do the procedure on /dev/sda2 we want to do it on /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[23:05] <EmeraldExplorer> BillTheKid: ok, thanks :)
[23:05] <V7> EmeraldExplorer: All languagies are same ... 80% ...
[23:05] <BillTheKid> I did the procedure on sda1
[23:06] <ADY_> bashin-om, after runnign the -c lshw, it says something like this: physiscal id: 2,bus info: pci@0000:00:02,2, version: 09,width: 64bits, clock: 33MHz, capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_listrom
[23:06] <BillTheKid> and yes I'll remember that :)
[23:06] <Gallomimia> ah. we already know sda1 is fine tho.
[23:06] <Gallomimia> also, it doesn't have any of your important files (which i'm starting to hope are backed up)
[23:06] <BillTheKid> ok so I did not do anything on the other two because it did not let me
[23:06] <EmeraldExplorer> V7: yeah.. I guess that is true, but I heard somewhere that you can only get "good" with a couple of languages. But again people classify "good" very differently
[23:07] <Gallomimia> the other sdaN's aren't real filesystems. they're containers for your LVM
[23:07] <EmeraldExplorer> V7: just don't want to forget a language and then when I come back to it have to re-learn everything
[23:07] <Gallomimia> you *MUST* do it on the logical volume
[23:07] <V7> You should choose this language which is more comfartable for you then another one
[23:07] <Gallomimia> start at the top, and do what it says there. but where it says /dev/sda1 put /dev/ubuntu-vg/root or whatever is correct
[23:07] <ADY_> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0, resurces: irq:42 memory90000000-903fffff memory:80000000-8fffffff ioport:4000(size=464)
[23:08] <EmeraldExplorer> V7: and also because web development with Java is not exactly the best thing to do
[23:08] <V7> You'll be fine with C++ Python Java and PHP
[23:08] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I'll do this now :)
[23:08] <EmeraldExplorer> unless you are a Java nerd :p
[23:08] <Gallomimia> okay :)
[23:08] <Gallomimia> i think it should fix the problem
[23:08] <BillTheKid> EmeraldExplorer: for Machine LEarning Python, R or Scala
[23:08] <V7> Uh ... goin sleepin' mate ;D
[23:08] <BillTheKid> R is not a language for software engineers
[23:08] <V7> I really want it :D
[23:08] <V7> Choose this one which you love
[23:09] <V7> In which you're in love :D
[23:09] <EmeraldExplorer> BillTheKid: correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Python have a library that lets you execute R code?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> ADY_: ' sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit ' to transfer that output to our pastebin site . I will have a look myself at what is . the result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here .
[23:09] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: start with: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda2 | grep superblock
[23:09] <Gallomimia> the rest is unimportant
[23:09] <Gallomimia> but instead of /dev/sda2 put /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[23:10] <ADY_> i can not pastebin, i can only access to the console from that pc. im working from an other
[23:10] <Gallomimia> ADY_: there's ways to pastebin from the console
[23:11] <BillTheKid> EmeraldExplorer: you will find all sorts of libs. this does not mean you should use it :p buddy let me finish with my crashed pc and then I can give you a tour on the libs, langs etc
[23:11] <EmeraldExplorer> BillTheKid: but what I'm saying is would it be weird to try to learn a lot of Web Development principals before I (attempt) to learn Machine Learning next summer?
[23:11] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: dumpe2fs 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) dumpe2fs: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/ubuntu-vg/root Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[23:11] <ADY_> ok
[23:11] <Bashing-om> ad.. never mind that last request of mine .. I see that a driver is loaded .. it is Intel's i915 . I have no Intel driver skills . Others here will have to further advise .
[23:11] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i don't like this at all.
[23:11] <EmeraldExplorer> or would that probably just get me confused / forgetful
[23:11] <Matt00> hey guys, in HTOP, i see that one of my CHROMIUM tabs is taking up lots of RAM/CPU --- but how do i tell *WHICH* tab it is?
[23:11] <Matt00> thanks
[23:12] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: omg omg omg :(
[23:12] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: did we try mount on this?
[23:12] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: sudo mount /dev/ubuntu-vg/root /mnt
[23:12] <BillTheKid> sudo mount /dev/ubuntu-vg/root /mnt
[23:12] <Gallomimia> what did it say there?
[23:12] <BillTheKid> yeah it failed. let me see the message
[23:13] <BillTheKid> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error         In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail or so.
[23:13] <Gallomimia> yeah. its time to read the syslog and dmesg. oh
[23:13] <Gallomimia> they're on that filesystem :(
[23:13] <Gallomimia> well, read them from the current /var/log
[23:14] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I recognise the messages
[23:14] <BillTheKid> they are the ones I get when I boot
[23:14] <BillTheKid> let me paste bin it
[23:14] <Tessan29> Hey. If I find a guide for something and it's meant for Xubuntu users, can I still do all the steps easily on Ubuntu and vice versa? Is the only differnece between the Ubuntu flavors the visual part? :/
[23:14] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i'm starting to wonder if some of your procedures on /dev/sda5 made a booboo
[23:15] <Gallomimia> Tessan29: mostly. it depends
[23:15] <Tessan29> Gallomimia: On what? :)
[23:15] <Gallomimia> on whether the procedure involves those visual parts?
[23:15] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: http://pastebin.com/1urPUnGw
[23:15] <Gallomimia> in actuality, the visual parts are just packages which can be manipulated and installed like any other
[23:16] <Tessan29> Gallomimia: I understand less after asking. Lol.
[23:17] <Gallomimia> what kind of procedure are you planning to do?
[23:17] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: time to google search for some of those errors :(
[23:17] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: do you know what filesystem your root used to be? cause it can't identify it now
[23:17] <Tessan29> Gallomimia: This, for example: https://www.ovpn.se/en/guides/ubuntu
[23:18] <dyc3> hey, does anybody know how to make X listen for network connections on 14.04? i have tried -listen tcp but it fails
[23:18] <BillTheKid> I believe everything was ext4
[23:19] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: that sounds reasonable to me. its the default
[23:19] <Gallomimia> Tessan29: that might work fine. the installer should know which libraries to get for your xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[23:19] <Tessan29> Gallomimia: Okay, thanks.
[23:20] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: maybe repeat the fsck but this time use fsck.ext4
[23:22] <Gallomimia> i'm wondering if someone else in the channel with more experience repairing corrupted filesystems will help us? BillTheKid is using LVM but the LV doesn't seem to have any way to identify its FS.
[23:22] <Gallomimia> i think.... asking the program "type" to tell you might help
[23:23] <BillTheKid> sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/ubuntu-vg/root e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) fsck.ext4: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/ubuntu-vg/root Could this be a zero-length partition?
[23:23] <Gallomimia> type /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[23:23] <Gallomimia> something bad has happened... and i don't know what it is.
[23:23] <BillTheKid> bash: type: /dev/ubuntu-vg/root: not found
[23:24] <mustmodify> Hey. How do I tell fstab that I want to mount a subdirectory of a mount-point
[23:24] <BillTheKid> lol did u mean run it? :p
[23:24] <mustmodify> ?
[23:24] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: yeah. but i don't know what the filename is really
[23:24] <mustmodify> In this case, /dev/logopolis/root then /projects
[23:24] <Gallomimia> maybe it's under /dev/mapper/ ?
[23:25] <BillTheKid> # /dev/ubuntu-vg/root -su: /dev/ubuntu-vg/root: Permission denied
[23:25] <Gallomimia> mustmodify: sounds like you want a --bind type mount. search for that?
[23:25] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: ah yes. you should do it with sudo
[23:25] <Gallomimia> i like to use sudo !! but that can be dangerous
[23:26] <BillTheKid> with sudo I get command not found
[23:26] <dyc3> anybody know how to make X listen on tcp?
[23:27] <marcurling> Evening, what is the disk/partion tool under Xenial, please?
[23:27] <Gallomimia> marcurling: it's called Disk
[23:27] <Gallomimia> er
[23:27] <Gallomimia> Disks
[23:27] <marcurling> ty
[23:30] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: I get "sudo: /dev/ubuntu-vg/root: command not found"
[23:30] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: you forgot the word type
[23:31] <BillTheKid> type command is missing. let me install it
[23:31] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: what package is this?
[23:32] <Gallomimia> what??
[23:32] <BillTheKid> i don't have the type command, apt-get can't find it
[23:32] <Gallomimia> the type command is missing!?
[23:33] <BillTheKid> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo type /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[23:33] <Gallomimia> oh you're on a liveUSB right?
[23:33] <BillTheKid> sudo: type: command not found
[23:33] <BillTheKid> yeah
[23:33] <Gallomimia> just try the single word type in your terminal
[23:34] <Gallomimia> i just tried a similar command on mine and it says not found either. but type is there. and it works
[23:34] <BillTheKid> empty response
[23:34] <BillTheKid> no error
[23:34] <Gallomimia> that means type is there
[23:34] <Gallomimia> yeah it's not going to tell us anything about it i think.
[23:34] <BillTheKid> which type is also empty
[23:34] <Gallomimia> well you gave it no parameters
[23:34] <Gallomimia> so it ran, did nothing, exited
[23:35] <BillTheKid> "which type"
[23:35] <BillTheKid> nothing returned
[23:36] <Gallomimia> i think it's builtin to the shell
[23:36] <Gallomimia> that's why i was so incredulous when it said not found
[23:37] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: thanks so much for helping me mate...
[23:39] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: try running the following with sudo: lvs
[23:39] <Gallomimia> and lvscan
[23:39] <Gallomimia> those might be the same command
[23:39] <Gallomimia> not the same but... almost
[23:40] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: earlier to load them I run:
[23:40] <BillTheKid> sudo vgscan
[23:40] <BillTheKid> sudo vgchange -a y
[23:40] <Gallomimia> probably not going to tell us anything new
[23:40] <BillTheKid> then I was able to load them with your help
[23:40] <Gallomimia> what's vgchange? oh it activates them
[23:41] <Gallomimia> load them? as in... mount them?
[23:41] <Gallomimia> or merely populate /dev/ubuntu-vg
[23:41] <BillTheKid> i meant mount
[23:41] <BillTheKid> http://pastebin.com/9ndWH42E
[23:41] <BillTheKid> well we did not mount them but we tried :p
[23:42] <Gallomimia> yeah. it tells us they're there
[23:43] <Gallomimia> why did i think it was a 40gig drive? it's 1tb
[23:43] <BillTheKid> don't know... it's indeed 1tb
[23:43] <BillTheKid> I found this: http://www.sj-vs.net/forcing-a-hard-disk-to-reallocate-bad-sectors/
[23:43] <BillTheKid> any thoughts? should I try it or I will mess it up beyond recognition?
[23:44] <Gallomimia> i don't think you should go that far yet
[23:44] <Gallomimia> i honestly don't think it's damaged. just lost data due to the hard boot
[23:44] <ADY_> gallomimia, i cannot installl pastebinit. itsayssomeindexfile failed todownload
[23:44] <flying_sausages> Hello people, anyone knows how would I go about upgrading 10.04 to 16.04?
[23:45] <mustmodify> Hey I have some instructions in /etc/profile.d/chruby ...
[23:45] <Gallomimia> ADY_: there's another way to pastebin from the terminal. it involves the command nc
[23:45] <mustmodify> but if I run `bash` from bash they aren't run.
[23:45] <mustmodify> in the new shell.
[23:45] <mustmodify> why?
[23:45] <Gallomimia> someone here knows it
[23:45] <ADY_> ok, let me look for it
[23:45] <flying_sausages> It was the only CD I had lying around, no other choice...
[23:45] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: i really hope I did not losedata :(
[23:45] <ADY_> thank you
[23:45] <Gallomimia> !nc | ADY_
[23:45] <Gallomimia> dang
[23:46] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i don't think so. just the important data needed to mount the drive
[23:46] <Gallomimia> partition map and stuff
[23:46] <Gallomimia> fs superblock
[23:47] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i'm reading the manual for LVM
[23:47] <Gallomimia> there's a command that would be good to run: pvck
[23:47] <BillTheKid> man, really cant thank u enough...
[23:47] <Gallomimia> probably with sudo
[23:47] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: thank me when we get files recovered?
[23:48] <Gallomimia> also, backups are a good idea.
[23:48] <BillTheKid> i thank u any way. you are definitely not obliged to do this.
[23:48] <Gallomimia> there's a motto that goes around here: if you don't have it backed up, i guess it wasn't that important to you.
[23:48] <Gallomimia> no. but i've had a lot of people help me in here
[23:48] <Gallomimia> its fitting i should pay it forward
[23:48] <Gallomimia> if only i knew a bit more about this
[23:49] <BillTheKid> do i need any parameters on the pvck?
[23:50] <Gallomimia> i think so.
[23:50] <Gallomimia> probably ubuntu-vg
[23:51] <BillTheKid> they seem to be doing it on sba
[23:51] <Gallomimia> interesting
[23:52] <Gallomimia> ah. try it on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg
[23:52] <BillTheKid> ok
[23:52] <Gallomimia> or /dev/sda5
[23:52] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia, I managed to resize my root FS with the kind help from Knorrie@#btrfs . I was on the right track, but I missed a resize step that had to precede the btrfs filesystem resize command. Now my OS can be upgraded and I'll be on 16.04.1 in no time :-D
[23:52] <Gallomimia> mine is different than yours
[23:52] <BillTheKid> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo pvck /dev/ubuntu-vg/root    Could not find LVM label on /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[23:52] <Nitrigaur> Both steps could be performed on a live FS
[23:52] <BillTheKid>   Found label on /dev/sda5, sector 1, type=LVM2 001   Found text metadata area: offset=4096, size=1044480
[23:53] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: good show. it's different because of the btrfs. i've never worked with it
[23:53] <BillTheKid> i think the sdaX is correct. That's what I found on the web too
[23:53] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: ah yes. that's your physical volume. mine is another mapping because i have some layers in it. crypto and raid
[23:54] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia, I have compiled the relevant lines. Which I might add to the Ubuntu wiki later on, so that a future user will be able to use proper docs.
[23:54] <sudormrf> upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, now i get an error when I ssh in to the machine: bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: read-only file system
[23:54] <Gallomimia> Nitrigaur: that's a good idea. i might decide to do the same on making an initramfs
[23:54] <sudormrf> initial google searches say that this is because stuff is full
[23:55] <sudormrf> all my results show plenty of free space and INodes (at least that is how I see it).  anyone around that can help?
[23:55] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: that won't stop you from doing certain things. but some it will
[23:55] <Nitrigaur> Gallomimia, I'm looking forward to your article on initramfs :-)
[23:55] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: unfortunately, you're going to have to sudormrf some stuff
[23:55] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, that's fine, but what? the df -h and other results don't show me anything that is really sticking out
[23:55] <Gallomimia> sudormrf: is it actually full, or is there space?
[23:56] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, there is a ton of space
[23:56] <Gallomimia> maybe ask the mount command if it's mounted readonly
[23:56] <sudormrf> only 11% in use
[23:56] <Gallomimia> yeah. that's odd. maybe permissions problem
[23:56] <sudormrf> that is the error option in the fstab
[23:56] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i don't know what the success of that comand got us
[23:56] <sudormrf> I could switch it to continue :X
[23:56] <OerHeks> read-only  .. touch <somefile>
[23:57] <Gallomimia> yep. try touching a file and see what it says
[23:57] <Gallomimia> or ls -la
[23:57] <OerHeks> could be a dirty shutdown, fsck
[23:57] <sudormrf> touch: cannot touch 'test': read only file system
[23:57] <sudormrf> interesting
[23:57] <sudormrf> fsck gave an error
[23:57] <Gallomimia> yep. been remounted r/o
[23:57] <sudormrf> unable to resolve the uuid of the disk
[23:58] <sudormrf> Gallomimia, that is the error option in the fstab
[23:58] <Gallomimia> that's the default
[23:58] <sudormrf> I can change it, but want to understand why it's doing this
[23:58] <BillTheKid> Gallomimia: it run way too quickly fore recovering anything... do you want me to reboot or do something else?
[23:58] <Gallomimia> you don't want to change it
[23:58] <OerHeks> !fsck
[23:58] <sudormrf> jedi mind trick?
[23:58] <sudormrf> OerHeks, fsck gave me an error
[23:58] <sudormrf> oh
[23:58] <sudormrf> I will give that command a shot
[23:58] <Gallomimia> BillTheKid: i don't know what to do honestly. somehow we need to recover that filesystem. but its inside the LVM so... its complicated
[23:59] <sudormrf> OerHeks, won't the shutdown command force a shutdown, not a reboot?
[23:59] <Gallomimia> shutdown -r means reboot
[23:59] <OerHeks> shutdown plus -r is reboot
[23:59] <sudormrf> all be darned
[23:59] <sudormrf> awesome :D
[23:59] <sudormrf> one sec