=== JanC is now known as Guest62829 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [04:20] hi === CrazyMelon is now known as CrazyLemon === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton [05:56] Sweet5hark1, hi, https://paste.debian.net/plain/788134 === sayur is now known as tama === tama is now known as sayur [07:05] seb128: Good morning, Sebastien! Any chance you have time to revisit bug #1607937? Patch attached, and I verified that it fixes the issue. [07:05] bug 1607937 in gnome-font-viewer (Ubuntu Xenial) "Font Viewer fails to start from dash: Unknown option --gapplication-service" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1607937 [07:12] hey GunnarHj, hey desktopers [07:13] GunnarHj, I can have a look today if no other patch pilot beats me to it [07:36] hello world [07:48] go join #thelinuxgeekcommunity [07:49] Morning... [07:53] Morning Trevinho. [07:53] I think we just got spammed on IRC [07:53] That's new [07:54] I've seen that kind of thing on and off. [07:55] I think its generally ignored. [07:56] TheMuso: Happy Census week ;) [07:56] /month [07:59] duflu: You too, and yes I agree, census month. [07:59] I actually got it filled out but couldn't submit it. [08:00] Hurray [08:00] I think the census site is actually available now, two days after census day. [08:04] BACK ONLINE [08:06] RAOF: Yes. Now everybody please stay on your side of the boat or else it will topple [08:06] RAOF: Uh, no. It's gone again [08:26] hey Trevinho duflu TheMuso RAOF Laney desrt [08:26] Morning seb128 [08:30] what's upé [08:34] looks like autumn is here [08:34] ~ubuntu-desktop-members+=1 [08:34] same here, cold rainy day :-/ [08:34] yesterday was nice though, perfect evening for tennis ;-) [08:35] hey seb128 [08:35] and Laney [08:35] and duflu which I forgot to greet before :) [08:35] Trevinho, how are you? having power today? ;-) [08:35] seb128: full power [08:36] luxury [08:36] yesterday it was back after lunch... All my batteries were enough [08:36] bring back berlusconi [08:36] there was always power under him [08:36] * Trevinho turned on all the lights just because... he can [08:36] lol [08:36] yeah... and trains were always in time. [08:36] good old times [08:37] but mind that when italians say "on time" they mean "don't make you wait more than 15 minutes" [08:37] not true... :-), our hight speed trains are really the most on time of the europe... === popey_ is now known as popey [08:38] jaja [08:38] Then you think to regional trains and..... ok, No one around :-D [08:38] :-) [08:38] I'm indeed a regional train :-D [08:38] we noticed! [08:38] * seb128 hugs Trevinho [08:38] BUt... Really a nice one, isn't it!? :-D [08:38] * Trevinho seeking for hugs [08:39] definitely the first class [08:39] man [08:39] this armhf on arm64 inside lxd stuff is flaaaaaaaaaky [08:39] ahah :D [08:39] * Laney is bisecting ffmpeg inside there [08:39] fun [08:39] still wrestling with ffmpeg? [08:40] getting there [08:40] maybe [08:40] ... [08:40] go Laney go! [08:40] * seb128 enables xenial-proposed to get the new goodness from andyrock and Trevinho [08:41] morning and yay for seb128 [08:41] and... getting some breakage? :) [08:41] hey andyrock! [08:41] Trevinho, oh, looking forward that, wouldn't be fun without a bit of those ;-) [08:41] seb128: going to verify bugs too? [08:41] yes [08:41] good... [08:42] I'm a little afraid from the... seb128's maledition. That means: every single race condition, is just a crash for him. [08:43] it's good to be good [08:43] I'm told that version is going to stop warning me that my keypad is working! [08:44] how dare you input numbers on a keypad without warning the user?! ;-) [08:44] now just get the systemd service in for yakkety and you'll make me happy [08:44] :) [08:45] Laney, btw what's the deal with gstreamer, should we go for 1.9? [08:45] didn't think about it [08:45] I'm struggling for time a bit [08:45] I noticed because it's in experimental/red on version [08:45] I can have a look if you want [08:45] and nothing required it yet as far as I could tell [08:45] sure [08:45] you get to use the git branches [08:46] we are also behind on glib and need that test fix from d_esrt [08:46] i know [08:46] oh, urg [08:46] next week [08:46] yeah, no hurry, might make sense to make the new tarball that includes the fix [08:46] well in fact we are in sync so I guess we could already sync the update that debian did in experimental if we wanted [08:47] for glib? [08:47] yes [08:47] pochu did updates there [08:47] correct [08:47] I didn't test them yet [08:48] and it won't have the test fix [08:48] no hurry [08:48] let's wait for next week and bring the test fix in [08:51] seb128, @ gstreamer. jhodapp is doing some work getting mediahub ready for desktop. He might be able to offer some advice and support here, he knows it quite well. [08:51] willcooke, hey, thanks for the suggestion [08:51] I think as a rule it's good to follow the current version, they are more likely to have improvements that benefit us [08:51] +1 [08:52] maybe they fixed vaapi integration [08:52] lulz [08:52] Laney, is there a page explaining that git workflow? it's on alioth? [08:52] haha [08:52] the day that happens willcooke is going to feel lost [08:52] "what's next?!" [08:52] I have a list of things ready to moan about. [08:52] :-) [08:53] * willcooke is amazed at the speed the cards are moving around the Trello board [08:53] don't know about a page, sorry [08:53] it's just git-buildpackage [08:53] but can I push? or how do I MR or PR on alioth? [08:53] they are on launchpad [08:53] oh, ok [08:53] that I can probably manage [08:53] you add the debian branches as a remote, then merge the tags [08:54] I though you had branches on pkg-gstreamer [08:54] look in `man dpkg-mergechangelogs' and do the git integration it says in there [08:54] that will make your life better [08:54] also if you want me to review the first one, let me know ;-) [08:57] In other news... seb128 if you could backport that Wayland/Mir fix for nautilus it would be awesome [09:17] Trevinho, andyrock, good job, that unity SRU seems to work as described without regression ;-) [09:38] seb128: indeed, all the changes are in between statements: if (glib::gchar_to_string(g_get_user_name()) != "seb128") != { ... } :-D [09:39] :-) [09:49] roughly 0 steps left [09:50] ♥ git === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [10:17] * Laney is being spammed by italians on launchpad [10:17] * Laney got subscribed to unity bugs [10:18] you'll love it :-) [10:19] giving me a warm fuzzy feeling inside [10:19] seeing such top quality work [10:19] 😘😘😘😘😘 [10:34] cyphermox: right, this unity-settings-daemon thing [10:34] what's the best way to test it? [11:37] oh look, unity went in [12:10] Laney: the right way to test it is to make sure the scaling works, but it requires some HiDPI hardware [12:10] good morning [12:11] otherwise you can start ubiquity and make sure the desktop background still shows up in the "Install" session (Try doesn't use ubiquity-dm), and perhaps with sufficient logging you can see that things happen the way you expected them to [12:12] Laney: if you add "debug-ubiquity" to the command-line (hit F6) you can put ubiquity in debug mode, then the logs will be in /var/log/installer/debug [12:20] hey cyphermox jbicha [12:31] jbicha, you merged e-d-s/evo but you don't plan to upload yet right? [12:32] seb128: right, but is tonight ok? or the weekend? [12:33] well unsure, I though we wanted to clear some of the transitions before [12:33] check with Laney I would say, he has a better overview of the proposed state [12:33] hey folks! [12:33] but next week is still fine, no feature freeze yet [12:33] hey ochosi! how are you? [12:33] quick question, has anything changed wrt compiz's window decorator in 16.10? people are reporting my theme suddenly has square corners (instead of rounded ones) [12:34] hey willcooke, seb128 [12:34] seb128: good good :) trying to get a release of my theme out [12:34] hey jhodapp! [12:34] ochosi, that's one for Trevinho [12:34] hey hey :) [12:34] ok thanks, i'll ping him with it directly :) [12:34] could be a gtk 3.20 side effect? [12:34] Trevinho: hey! quick question, has anything changed wrt compiz's window decorator in 16.10? people are reporting my theme suddenly has square corners (instead of rounded ones) [12:35] i dunno, i didn't think that normal window decos had anything to do with gtk [12:35] seb128, we are upgrading the phone gstreamer to 1.8.x right now...it's in silo 58 in fact [12:35] those are drawn by compiz or metacity, right? [12:35] jhodapp, nice, any opinion on 1.9 for yakkety? [12:35] ochosi, right, I though you were speaking headerbar/csd [12:35] but let's wait for Marco [12:36] seb128, I haven't looked at the changelog yet, but why go with a dev version? Is there something compelling in there? [12:36] no, curiously it only seems to affect "normal" ssd windows [12:36] jhodapp, well it's dev cycle, we would get 1.10 before release so get that stable version [12:38] seb128, it'd be nice for the desktop and the phone to be in sync for a little bit ;) [12:38] the phone needs to catch up! :p [12:39] seb128, hehe [12:40] willcooke, btw, yesterday I got media-hub, music-app, unity8 music-scope and indicator-sound in unity8 all working together on the desktop :) [12:40] jhodapp, nice ;-) [12:44] seb128, nice!! [12:44] jhodapp, ^ [12:44] :-) [12:45] oh [12:45] oops [12:45] tkamppeter, hey [12:45] tkamppeter, the recent cups changes in debian removed the ubuntu patches and made it fail to build on ubuntu, could you have a look? [12:45] video isn't playing, but we agreed that's ok for a first go at it [12:46] we'll have to finalize our hardware acceleration approach for video playback on the desktop [12:46] get vaapi to work and willcooke is going to buy you lot of beer rounds ;-) [12:46] \o/ [12:47] haha [12:47] isn't he going to buy me lots of beer anyway? ;) [12:47] of course [12:47] :D [12:55] ochosi: gtk has changed, you need to update your .css to make selectors to work [12:56] ochosi: something like https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/gtk320.unity/+merge/298072 should work [13:03] ricotz: thx, patched. [13:03] seb128: I'm thinking about evolution 3.22 for yakkety because it ports to webkit2 [13:03] while https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=6c3cff9 isn't bad, [13:04] https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=332789f is an awfully big commit to backport [13:06] hey Sweet5hark1, how are you? [13:06] jbicha, I didn't look at the details of the 2.20->22 change but it looks like yakkety should have new enough libs for it and it's not too crazy, so why not [13:07] seb128: heya. [13:08] seb128: merging some more packaging tweaks for 5.2 dpkg, which should be good then. [13:08] seb128: the theming stuff is still annoying though ... [13:08] Sweet5hark1, great, aiming for a friday upload? ;-) [13:08] I can imagine :-/ [13:08] seb128: yeah, should work. [13:09] Sweet5hark1, yw, did you manage to successfully build 5.2.0 against current yakkety-proposed? [13:10] seb128: needed to cherry-pick a change from debian: -draw needs some stuff we used to have in -impress, thus running draw without having impress installed created nasty crashers ... [13:10] ricotz: yes, did so twice this week on multiple archs. why? [13:13] Sweet5hark1, 5.2.1.1 build freezes at "[build CUT] sd_export_tests" on yakkety [13:13] see the prerelease ppa [13:13] ricotz: meh. [13:14] orcus and xixion isnt using boost1.61 yet afaics [13:14] so I am curious if 5.2.0 magically succeeds on the yakkety archive builders [13:15] *libixion [13:20] cyphermox, can you look at bug 1611010 ? [13:20] bug 1611010 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "yakkety desktop - non-english installation crashes" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611010 === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [13:27] i forgot to change my nickname :p [13:35] hey hikiko [13:36] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/7e/TDFAnnualReport2015LR.pdf <- still no news on my helicopter in there. [13:36] hi seb128 :) [13:36] I was there... [13:36] just forgot the nick since lunch break 5 hrs ago :p [13:37] \m/ [13:37] despite TDF spending 518.000 EUR in 2015: no helicopter. [13:38] hikiko: Five hour lunch? What, are you French? [13:39] qengho, not friday yet! [13:40] hahaha [13:41] seb128: Hi Sebastien, do you possibly have time to revisit bug #1607937? Patched 3.16 with that commit. [13:41] bug 1607937 in gnome-font-viewer (Ubuntu Xenial) "Font Viewer fails to start from dash: Unknown option --gapplication-service" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1607937 [13:41] GunnarHj, sure, thanks for working on that! [13:42] seb128: Great, thanks! [13:42] yw! [13:45] jibel: ack [13:49] cyphermox: don't need hidpi to test the signal stuff? [13:49] I do have hardware, but it's my laptop and I would prefer not to use it directly :-) [13:49] Laney: well, you can approximate it doing the right thing if xsettings really does show up and then the desktop background, etc. [13:49] right [13:50] now how to get ubiquity onto it early enough [13:50] cyphermox: how do I get VTs when in ubiquity-dm? [13:51] or would a systemd debug shell work? [13:51] you don't [13:51] add break=bottom that will get you in the system before ubiquity starts [13:52] it would be easier to be able to iterate by restarting lightdm [13:56] * Laney has started the debug shell [14:10] Laney, hey :), I see you are fighting with ffmpeg, please don't ignore that 3.1.2-1 is available [14:11] One thing at a time [14:13] ok [14:14] ricotz: Also it doesn't contain that commit [14:19] Laney, I mean no need to waste time on this old release, but alright [14:19] the new one might be buggy in other exciting ways ;-) [14:20] ok, thanks - I saw it yesterday but it doesn't have the fix, so it was less risky to just find the commit and take that than try to merge at the same time [14:20] feel free to re-merge after it goes in [14:22] seb128, yeah, sure [14:23] this is just my opinions by looking at the upstream release dates [14:23] right, it's a fine balance between newest and stable [15:30] anyone want to try to get the gspell tests to pass on autopkgtest.u.c? bug 1610588 [15:30] bug 1610588 in gspell (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gspell" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1610588 [15:31] jbicha, that gspell MIR, is the issue that builder don't have a session bus? didyou try with dbus-run-session [15:31] lol [15:31] I was just typing about that [15:31] look a gnome-keyring or policykit [15:31] jbicha, e.g http://sources.debian.net/src/gcr/3.20.0-2/debian/rules/?hl=25#L25 [15:48] Hi, are there any plans to fully support the Freedesktop StatusNotifierItem specification (https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/StatusNotifierItem/) on Ubuntu? [15:49] I would like to do it, but it kind of contradicts the Ubuntu Design guides regarding status menu's (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomStatusMenuDesignGuidelines) [15:50] seppestas, hey, there is no plan to change from the current ubuntu design no [15:52] seppestas: Is this an x/y question? You're asking about StatusNotifierItem, but that is a facility for doing something. What is it you want to do? [15:52] going for some exercice, bbl [15:52] seb128: But what about the design guidelines? I.e, would code that allows applications to draw stuff when the status menu icon is pressed be submitted in the Unity panel / libappindicator? [15:55] 'cause in the current state Ubuntu is inconsistent with other operating systems for the sake of consistency [15:55] (and by Ubuntu I mean Ubuntu Unity) [16:06] So specifically: If I put code in the Unity service panel so that it sends an Activate method (https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/StatusNotifierItem/StatusNotifierItem/#activate) when an menu status is clicked and if I put code in libappindicator so that applications can use those events, for things that might not comply with the Ubuntu Status Menu design guidelines, would pull request ever be accepted? [16:07] s/request/requests [16:11] Laney willcooke: Ever wondered why GNOME Software shows nothing but apps? (not even addons) [16:11] https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/2c479053850958575c8de50fbee4433ec05019d3 [16:11] ximion, ahh. I thought it was a design decision [16:11] interesting [16:12] willcooke: for apps, yes - but this means that also fonts, addons, input-methods, etc. won't be shown [16:12] ahh, kk [16:13] willcooke: I wonder if this warrants a fix in Xenial... Afterall, addons should really be shown (e.g. for gedit) [16:13] for this to work, this patch needs to be taken too https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/2c479053850958575c8de50fbee4433ec05019d3 [16:13] ximion, I'm +1 - will speak to Robert [16:14] this is really insane... [16:14] * ximion should have investigated why addons don't show up way earlier [16:15] you linked the same commit twice [16:17] copy-pasting is hard.... [16:17] https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/ea8b160c8f05ae018dcf54181204cc5740c2aa1c [16:19] Laney: I also got an email from vlc people yesterday, wondering why their app isn't showing up in Ubuntu [16:19] might be the good old Contents-file-not-up2date issue [16:20] jbicha said it would also not show up on Debian, but I couldn't reproduce this here [16:21] ximion: it does show up in Debian with 'appstreamcli search vlc' but not in the Software app [16:23] jbicha: does appstream-util search vlc give any results? [16:23] EOD here... See you tomorrow. [16:24] don't ask me [16:24] the icon was always in vlc-data [16:25] jbicha: or rather: can you run killall gnome-software; gnome-software --verbose and paste the full outout somewhere? [16:25] bash: appstream-util: command not found [16:25] the Debian data itself is fine: https://appstream.debian.org/data/stretch/main/ [16:25] (also the icon is there) [16:27] I'll re-run for vlc, just in case [16:27] for the Ubuntu data, I have no idea what happened there - the dep11gen algorithm should have found the right icon [16:27] One day I'll get time to work on asgen [16:27] ximion: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/406303/ [16:27] re-running is stupid, it relies on people noticing [16:27] need to switch [16:28] jbicha: also looks like an appstream-glib bug [16:30] cyphermox: getting there [16:30] don't know if I will get all the way before EOD [16:31] jbicha: could actually also be an issue in GS icon-refine [16:32] ok [16:33] jbicha: I'll update GS and asglib in Debian, let's see if that changes anything [16:40] jbicha: can you also paste the output of appstreamcli status? [16:41] https://paste.fedoraproject.org/406309/ [16:42] okay, so the icon sets are there [17:02] cyphermox: got to go now, do you want my wip or shall I try to finish it fully on monday? [17:05] WTF [17:06] right, sorry, got to go - but I've fixed it apart from checking the name of the signal [17:08] happy weekend! [17:26] night all [17:28] Laney, have a nice w.e! === Guest19548 is now known as fredp === fredp is now known as Guest146 [23:07] does anyone know what it means "while [ ! -f "$mysqld_pid_file_path" -o ! -S "$mysql_socket_file_path" ]; do ...." I do not fully understand the "-o ! -S" part, thanks [23:07] -o means "or" [23:07] ! means not [23:07] -S probably means "file of type socket" [23:08] sarnold, thanks for your explanation.