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| sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
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| robru | \o | 15:01 |
| cyphermox | o/ | 15:02 |
| * slangasek waves | 15:02 | |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 15:03:04 2016 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:03 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:03 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson) | 15:03 |
| slangasek | robru caribou cyphermox mwhudson sil2100 xnox infinity bdmurray pitti slangasek doko chiluk barry tdaitx | 15:03 |
| robru | yay! | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | oh, so close | 15:03 |
| robru | very short week due to vacation mon-wed | 15:03 |
| chiluk | slangasek: caribou is on vacation this week. | 15:03 |
| robru | started porting publish job from jenkins to bileto, but just a tiny stub, not functional yet | 15:04 |
| robru | (done) | 15:04 |
| slangasek | chiluk: copy, thanks | 15:04 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | trusty: | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - investigate upgrade prompt bug for shim-signed (bug LP: #1607929) | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | yakkety: | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - NetworkManager bugs (bug LP: #1589401) | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - check legacy grub uses in grub-installer | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1607929 in shim-signed (Ubuntu) "(trusty, debconf passthrough) package shim-signed 1.17~14.04.1+0.8-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal (Terminated)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1607929 | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1589401 in NetworkManager "cannot view wifi networks after re-enabling wifi" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589401 | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - console-conf networking code | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - debug ubiquity non-english translation crash (bug LP: #1611010) | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - debugging network-manager openvpn split-tunnelling (bug LP: #1603898) | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1611010 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "yakkety desktop - non-english installation crashes" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611010 | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1603898 in network-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "DNS resolution fails when using VPN and routing all traffic over it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1603898 | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - shim extendedKeyUsage code | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - test & upload new shim | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | - validate grub -> grub2 upgrade path | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | (done) | 15:04 |
| sil2100 | Is mwhudson actually around at this time? ;) | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | doubtful | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | Ok, so my turn | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - RTM status meetings | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Touch xenial: | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | * Reverted repowerd on xenial as well (which has now re-landed with fixes) | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | * Reviewed libhybris arm64-fix branches, coordinating landing | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Experimenting with snappy and snaps | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Update touch seeds per management requests | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Staging a golang-1.6 forward-port from trusty with package rebuilds | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Various updates to landing-team-tools, cleanup | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Re-spinning snapshot-based OTA-12 emulator images + copying to stable | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - Familiarizing with bileto code, proposing small bugfix for PPA descriptions | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | - zeromq3 update request: | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | * Experimented with libzmq git snapshot package, refreshed patches | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | * Prepped syncing zmqpp from upstream + the required patch from devel | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | * Built test packages | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | - Looked into the general migration issues in yakkety for touch-based packages | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | * Prepared chroot, tried parsing update_output, waiting for transitions to finish | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 15:06 |
| xnox | * merging all the things | 15:06 |
| xnox | * Build atlas with zEC12 optimisations on s390x, and POWER8 timings on ppc64el (with coordination in Debian) | 15:06 |
| xnox | * fix FTBFS dbus-cpp (gcc-6) | 15:06 |
| xnox | * coordinate improved s390x support upstream in screenfetch, upload to yakkety | 15:06 |
| xnox | * oprofile SRU to xenial for goldmont & z13 support | 15:06 |
| xnox | * openssl SRU to xenial in the unapproved queue | 15:06 |
| xnox | * zua - implement whitelist builds only | 15:06 |
| xnox | * s390x bugproxy wants new kernels, but apw is on holiday =) | 15:06 |
| xnox | .. | 15:06 |
| doko | they are working on the kernel, I'm told ... | 15:06 |
| infinity | * glibc 2.24 work, still sorting out some locale issues | 15:07 |
| infinity | * a bit of kernel SRU help | 15:07 |
| infinity | (done) | 15:07 |
| xnox | well, i'm not building a kernel on a debie's laptop and giving IBM to take that for a spin on their mainframes ;-) | 15:07 |
| infinity | xnox: "new kernel" in what sense? | 15:07 |
| xnox | infinity, 4.7 or 4.8 | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | modified mojo spec / charms to use swift for apport code storage | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | investigation into RT 90399 daisy Traceback | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | submitted test crashes to lift and shift ET (rt 90399) | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | update daisy to stop accepting / retracing wily crashes | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | submitted RT to have daisy updated in staging / production | 15:08 |
| infinity | xnox: Well, 4.6 is landing soon. 4.7 will follow. | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | uploaded update-manager HWE support wording changes | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | wrote HWE support test case for testers | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | research into / fixing of HWE support multi-arch issue | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | uploaded update-manager HWE multi-arch fix | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | reported bug 1611982 re missing packages in HWE X stack | 15:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1611982 in xserver-xorg-video-ati-lts-xenial (Ubuntu Xenial) "HWE upgrade from vivid to xenial removes support for r128 and mach64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611982 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | updated update-notifier w/ hwe support for Trusty | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | uploaded improved fix for LP: #1579834 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | updated bug bot with 16.04.1 iso ident information | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | uploaded u-r-u for X fixing LP: #1611909 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1579834 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu Xenial) "update-apt-xapian-index-dbus fails because of wrong import" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1579834 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1611909 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "xenial dist-upgrader using wrong demotions list" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611909 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:08 |
| slangasek | pitti is on vacation | 15:08 |
| slangasek | * slow week, taking me a long time to recover from cold | 15:09 |
| slangasek | * ubuntu-image spec finalization | 15:09 |
| slangasek | * console-conf design discussions | 15:09 |
| slangasek | * finishing a handful of merges before Feature Freeze | 15:09 |
| slangasek | * proposed-migration nudging | 15:09 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:09 |
| slangasek | doko: | 15:09 |
| doko | - binutils 2.27 | 15:09 |
| doko | - got gnat-6 into the release pocket | 15:09 |
| doko | - working on build failures, transitions ... | 15:09 |
| doko | - look at gcc bugs, upstream, ... | 15:09 |
| doko | - prepare GCC linaro builds | 15:09 |
| doko | - look at "Killed" build failures, reduce parallelism during the build. not sure if that is the right way ... | 15:09 |
| doko | - openjdk-9 update | 15:09 |
| doko | (done) | 15:10 |
| chiluk | - just opened lp#1612294 - not sure if anything can be done, but it's annoying. | 15:10 |
| chiluk | - other than that, mostly working ceph cases as most of my team have been on vacation the last few weeks. | 15:10 |
| chiluk | - Vacation Friday - Got Lasik | 15:10 |
| chiluk | (done) | 15:10 |
| barry | ubuntu-image: LP: #1605434 (more-parsing branch); gadget-yaml branch (WIP); prepare-image branch; sample-data branch | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1605434 in Ubuntu Image "testsuite calls 'snap weld' multiple times" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1605434 | 15:10 |
| barry | debuntu: python-coverage sponsorship; pyparsing 2.1.6+dfsg1-1; LP: #1611503; various other discussions; claws-mail merge from Debian before FF (WIP) | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1611503 in python-pip (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] python3-lxc breaks pip3 freeze in Xenial" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611503 | 15:10 |
| barry | --done-- | 15:10 |
| tdaitx | = OpenJDK security update | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - Fixed broken JamVM: 2 new native methods were introduced in sun.misc.Unsafe and had to be implemented in JamVM as well (LP: #1611598); a bug has been reported to both JamVM and IcedTea and fixes have been provided for review | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - OpenJDK 8 packages with JamVM seem to be broken as well but jtreg is not being run, working on that | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - Waiting for 8u102 backport to be approved on aarch64-port to update the source package | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1611598 in OpenJDK "jamvm is broken due to missing native methods in sun.misc.Unsafe" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611598 | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - OpenJDK 7 builds still segfaults on Trusty on Arm64 (but it doe eventually passes); it used to be that building on trusty-security only segfaulted and trust-updates didn't, but now both have the same version; under investigation | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - Keeping an eye on errors report related to LP: #1609190 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1609190 in openjdk-8 (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-armhf/jre/bin/java:6:BytecodeInterpreter::run:CppInterpreter::main_loop:CppInterpreter::normal_entry:ZeroEntry::invoke:Interpreter::invoke_method" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1609190 | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | = Other | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - Went through a few bug reports | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | = AOB | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | - landline+adsl installed and working at 50/6 Mbps, torrents ups and running (for ISOs I say); also got a new battery for my UPS (does anyone else calls it a "no-break" besides Brazilians?) | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:11 |
| xnox | bug #1612294 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1612294 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Boot messages in /var/log/syslog are out of order and with mostly "useless" timestamp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612294 | 15:12 |
| doko | tdaitx, is this with pch enabled? if yes, please can you try to disable that? | 15:12 |
| slangasek | chiluk: the timestamp is added by the syslog server, which systemd can only dump to once syslog is started | 15:14 |
| slangasek | so systemd can either send this info or not, but not control the timestamp | 15:14 |
| xnox | read journal? | 15:14 |
| chiluk | slangasek: Yeah I'm aware.. doesn't mean I can't bitch about it .. or at least get it documented. | 15:14 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:14 |
| slangasek | any questions over status? | 15:15 |
| infinity | Can't reasonably fix the timestamp thing, but the order is definitely a bug. | 15:15 |
| chiluk | slangasek ... If there's ever a discussion about switching away from systemd.. this will just be one more bit of ammo. | 15:15 |
| xnox | do we even have syslog by default? i thought we just use journal, and make that syslog. | 15:15 |
| slangasek | chiluk: switching away from systemd to what? :) | 15:15 |
| * chiluk misses upstart.. | 15:15 | |
| * xnox systeme | 15:15 | |
| infinity | xnox: We definitely have syslog. | 15:15 |
| slangasek | xnox: absolutely not. we don't bury our logs in a non-standard binary db :) | 15:16 |
| xnox | ok. I can't tell with my frankenstein machines =) | 15:16 |
| infinity | slangasek: Of course it's a standard, Lennart declared it thus. | 15:16 |
| * xnox ponders if we should make journal dump plaintext logs and rotate that. | 15:16 | |
| xnox | aka pg_dump for journald | 15:17 |
| slangasek | orrr we could continue using the perfectly good syslog that we already have infrastructure for | 15:17 |
| infinity | xnox: And that would be better than a standard syslog interface how? | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | Asking for the last time: anyone against me updating zeromq3 to the latest git snapshot? ;) | 15:17 |
| infinity | sil2100: So, sorry, I'm only half awake. You said this was for scopes people, which implies maybe phone work? | 15:18 |
| infinity | sil2100: Which implies they'd want this in xenial? | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | infinity: yes, actually for ubuntu-personal | 15:18 |
| infinity | sil2100: s/phone/unity8/ then. | 15:18 |
| tdaitx | doko, thanks, I will check that | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | Since they need that to get things working for snappy | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | Yeah | 15:18 |
| infinity | sil2100: If this is only for yakkety *and* a real upstream release is around the corner, then fine. If this is for xenial, then hahahaha no. | 15:19 |
| xnox | sil2100, snap zeromq3 ? =/ | 15:19 |
| infinity | Or tell people that relying on features in git isn't really the way forward? | 15:19 |
| sil2100 | I'm prepping it for yakkety right now, don't know anything about xenial - but who knows ;) | 15:19 |
| sil2100 | Anyway yeah, the new version will be out soonish I guess | 15:19 |
| doko | sil2100, well, if all rdeps work with it ... | 15:19 |
| xnox | wait they want to put zeromq3 on every client? isn't that a bit heavy weight? | 15:20 |
| sil2100 | No changes in symbols, just a few ones added | 15:20 |
| infinity | xnox: It's not. | 15:20 |
| infinity | xnox: It's quite little, in fact, which is the appeal. | 15:20 |
| xnox | ok. | 15:21 |
| infinity | xnox: Think of it like the sqlite of the MQ world. | 15:21 |
| infinity | xnox: An MQ with no engine, just a library and a socket. | 15:21 |
| slangasek | and incorrect case-insensitive matching behavior? :) | 15:22 |
| infinity | slangasek: I'm not sure the sqlite analogy extends that far. ;) | 15:23 |
| xnox | "like sqlite" ?! =) | 15:23 |
| slangasek | xnox: he didn't say "like couchdb", so it must be ok | 15:23 |
| infinity | (But it probably has similar failings... The size tradeoff is likely similarly worth it, though) | 15:23 |
| infinity | So, since we seem to have devolved into AOB, despite a topic change... | 15:24 |
| infinity | despite a lack of topic change. | 15:24 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| infinity | Has anyone seen bizarre issues on Intel GPUs with an up-to-date yakkety? | 15:25 |
| sil2100 | I'll be on holidays on Monday | 15:25 |
| infinity | Like, flickering, render tearing, world exploding spectacularly requiring a reboot... | 15:25 |
| sil2100 | I mean, one-day national holiday | 15:25 |
| * xnox points out that Cold Water by Justin Bieber & Make me by Britney Spears are amazing songs | 15:25 | |
| tdaitx | doko, so, I do have your latest patches (from debian's 7u111-2.6.7-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 for arm64 pch) but the build is not using disable-precompiled-headers, I will retry it with that and see how it goes | 15:26 |
| * sil2100 still didn't figure out when to take his holidays | 15:26 | |
| xnox | infinity, define bizarre? | 15:26 |
| xnox | and desktop / mobile / ultramobile graphics? | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | infinity: I've seen flickering | 15:26 |
| xnox | flickering yes. | 15:26 |
| infinity | xnox: Broadwell-U | 15:26 |
| xnox | also disable / uninstall flash plugin | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | secure boot magic win, yay. | 15:26 |
| xnox | oh the worst of them all. | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | ^ that was AOB ;) | 15:26 |
| slangasek | "secure boot magic win"? | 15:27 |
| xnox | I'm on skylake and it's ok. I don't think Broadwell-U was ever fixed. | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | https://rol.im/securegoldenkeyboot/ | 15:27 |
| infinity | Alright, if everyone's seeing flickering, I at least know not to assume my laptop is dying. | 15:27 |
| slangasek | the magic won? you won the magic? | 15:27 |
| infinity | Now to figure out who to yell at. | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | nah | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | there was no magic | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | and much less won. | 15:27 |
| xnox | is that just ARM keys, or x86_64 keys too? | 15:27 |
| slangasek | well, /we/ win, because now we can put Ubuntu on all the Windows ARM devices :) | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | shrugs | 15:27 |
| slangasek | xnox: ARM only | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | I checked, it doesn't include any of our shim hashes | 15:28 |
| xnox | cause if it is just ARM keys, then it's intentional leak to open up the platform, as microsoft todate refused / didn't sign anybody else for that. | 15:28 |
| slangasek | uhm | 15:28 |
| slangasek | conspiracy theory much? :) | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | I wasn't under the impression this was only ARM though. | 15:29 |
| infinity | slangasek: Have you met Dmitri? | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | did the reptilian overlords already get him? | 15:29 |
| * xnox saw new star trek, was very confused about lack of either aliens or predators | 15:30 | |
| barry | xnox: saw it in imax 3d the day it premiered. still pretty awesome | 15:31 |
| infinity | xnox: Pretty sure Kirk is a predator. | 15:32 |
| barry | infinity: only the shatnerkirk | 15:32 |
| barry | aoaob? | 15:33 |
| infinity | barry: Nah, the new Kirk is too. They set that up in the very first movie. | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | he was even hiding under a bed in that one | 15:35 |
| barry | shatner would have never hid under a bed | 15:35 |
| barry | s/would/could/ | 15:35 |
| infinity | That's because Shatner's Kirk lived in a 60s sci-fi world where beds were either welded to the ground or floating 4 feet in the air. | 15:36 |
| cyphermox | heh. I still have total respect for McCoy, who had the worst job of them all | 15:36 |
| infinity | cyphermox: McCoy worked on Secure Boot? | 15:36 |
| cyphermox | no, he cured Kirk's STDs. | 15:37 |
| infinity | Similar. | 15:37 |
| cyphermox | that's still a little bit above working on Secure Boot ;) | 15:37 |
| barry | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pNQYHvhnms | 15:37 |
| barry | the 60s were so awesome | 15:37 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 15:38:22 2016 UTC. | 15:38 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-08-11-15.03.moin.txt | 15:38 |
| slangasek | thanks, all :) | 15:38 |
| barry | slangasek is so herbert | 15:38 |
| barry | :) | 15:38 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:38 |
| === icey is now known as icey|vacation | ||
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