| flying_sausages | oh god it's Intel 82945G | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| flying_sausages | whatever the hell that is | 00:00 |
| daftykins | anyway, sounds like 1) 16.04 ISO boot from GRUB 2) PLOP ISO boot from GRUB 3) network boot from another host 4) give up and do a horrible, horrible upgrade slowly | 00:00 |
| daftykins | ok you shouldn't even install a modern OS on that machine - i'm not even kidding | 00:00 |
| daftykins | and if you do, you should be looking at xubuntu or lubuntu - definitely not vanilla ubuntu | 00:01 |
| flying_sausages | yeah I'll switch to xfce after I install but that can just be done via terminal | 00:01 |
| flying_sausages | or indeed lubuntu still gotta choose | 00:01 |
| daftykins | just get the right ISO to begin with | 00:01 |
| flying_sausages | it can run 64, just not graphics... | 00:02 |
| flying_sausages | 3GHz Pentium 4 | 00:02 |
| daftykins | mmm no, that should not even be used right now | 00:02 |
| daftykins | i have 2009 core 2 duos here that people don't even want | 00:03 |
| daftykins | that system should be retired and recycled | 00:03 |
| flying_sausages | hahahaha we can't all be choosers | 00:03 |
| flying_sausages | and after all it runs, which is good enough for my mum | 00:03 |
| daftykins | i bet the disk in there is even failing :( | 00:03 |
| * daftykins looks at diddledan | 00:03 | |
| flying_sausages | hmmmm we replaced those a couple years back | 00:04 |
| diddledan | daftykins: don't you dare :-p | 00:04 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:04 |
| flying_sausages | now it's a whopping 80GB hdd | 00:04 |
| diddledan | 80GB?! | 00:04 |
| daftykins | i'm not kidding, next to nothing cost wise could get such a better machine | 00:04 |
| diddledan | that's teeny | 00:04 |
| daftykins | she may not need much, but how much do you value your mothers sanity for using it - and your own for supporting it? | 00:05 |
| flying_sausages | After 6 or so years it's only got 25 GBs filled, including win10 | 00:05 |
| flying_sausages | it's just filled with .docs | 00:05 |
| daftykins | 10 was definitely a very bad idea | 00:05 |
| flying_sausages | yeeeeeeeah | 00:05 |
| flying_sausages | hahahahah | 00:05 |
| daftykins | i don't think P4s were 64-bit though, so it must be something else | 00:05 |
| daftykins | grep -i model /proc/cpuinfo | 00:05 |
| flying_sausages | doesn't say if it's 64, just model:4, the name, and all that twice | 00:06 |
| flying_sausages | guessing two cores | 00:07 |
| daftykins | can you not just paste it here | 00:07 |
| flying_sausages | daftykins running this irc client on another machine | 00:08 |
| daftykins | keyboard. | 00:08 |
| flying_sausages | I'll ssh in and paste it :D | 00:08 |
| daftykins | supreme lazy++ | 00:09 |
| flying_sausages | uname -a // Linux office 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 00:09 |
| daftykins | uname -a is very different to grep... | 00:09 |
| flying_sausages | model: 4 | 00:10 |
| flying_sausages | model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz | 00:10 |
| flying_sausages | model: 4 | 00:10 |
| flying_sausages | model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz | 00:10 |
| daftykins | now "grep -i flags /proc/cpuinfo" | 00:10 |
| daftykins | you only need one set since they're identical | 00:10 |
| flying_sausages | indeed they are | 00:10 |
| flying_sausages | flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr | 00:10 |
| daftykins | mmm lm indeed | 00:10 |
| daftykins | ah well, it's a turd so it's a waste of time doing anything with | 00:11 |
| flying_sausages | i have no idea what i'm looking at or for hahaha | 00:11 |
| flying_sausages | daftykins well it's connected to 80Mb/s line so seedbox worthy | 00:11 |
| flying_sausages | it boots haha | 00:11 |
| daftykins | ah so now we find out the real reason you want it... | 00:11 |
| flying_sausages | that, and openvpn | 00:11 |
| flying_sausages | stepfather goes to china for work | 00:12 |
| daftykins | VPS would make more sense | 00:13 |
| daftykins | anyway, you have your options! | 00:13 |
| flying_sausages | yeah but why pay for something when you can recycle an ancient ruin and have it for free | 00:13 |
| daftykins | all of them are wrong on said museum piece | 00:13 |
| flying_sausages | that's what I love about linux :p | 00:13 |
| daftykins | because it's going to run rubbishly - and anyone telling you otherwise is enabling time wasting | 00:14 |
| flying_sausages | is there any general benchamrk linux machines can go by? | 00:14 |
| flying_sausages | just curious what this thing would tell me | 00:14 |
| daftykins | ask anyone what they think of a Pentium 4 and if they understand hardware they'll laugh | 00:15 |
| daftykins | it doesn't require metric to be proven | 00:15 |
| daftykins | *metrics | 00:15 |
| flying_sausages | gah I'm off to pcpartpicker hahahah | 00:16 |
| daftykins | i have core 2 quads here i can't even sell for like £100 | 00:17 |
| daftykins | even with SSDs in | 00:17 |
| flying_sausages | daftykins thanks again for the help, I'll try to boot from the usb via grub and then throw this thing away once I found out I can do it ha | 00:29 |
| daftykins | ;] | 00:31 |
| daftykins | lu/xubuntu ISO, or PLOP | 00:31 |
| * diddledan plops | 00:31 | |
| daftykins | i'm gonna plop off to bed! | 00:31 |
| daftykins | nn all \o | 00:31 |
| diddledan | tata | 00:31 |
| === pendulum_ is now known as pendulum | ||
| === mappps is now known as mapps | ||
| knightwise | morning | 06:34 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:45 |
| knightwise | hey MooDoo | 06:47 |
| MooDoo | how are you knightwise ? | 06:48 |
| knightwise | Doin ok | 07:24 |
| knightwise | Lot to do this week :( .. | 07:24 |
| MooDoo | yeah tell me about it, collegue is off this week | 07:31 |
| === pbx is now known as waggott14 | ||
| knightwise | Just getting at this "perfect shitstorm" moment where everyone wants everything at the same time | 07:45 |
| MooDoo | knightwise: the best ones are, I need it for 10am, and 09:57 :) | 08:00 |
| MooDoo | s/and/at | 08:00 |
| knightwise | yep , an the "i'll procrastinate as long as I can and then we will get to it next week" approach | 08:07 |
| knightwise | where the client puts stuff off right untill the end | 08:07 |
| MooDoo | "we have visitors in the office, wheres the presentation I forgot to ask you to do" :) | 08:08 |
| SuperMatt | to which you always reply "lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part" | 08:11 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:15 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: definately | 08:15 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon | 08:15 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 08:16 |
| === christel is now known as fumble | ||
| === popey_ is now known as popey | ||
| MooDoo | how are you brobostigon ? | 08:48 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: average, and you? | 08:51 |
| JohnHunt | lol you're not British are you? | 08:51 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: I'm ok thanks :) | 08:52 |
| MooDoo | JohnHunt: most of us are british here, and we enjoy a spiffing time drinking tea, can't you tell from how Jolly we all are what? ;) | 08:53 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: :) | 08:53 |
| SuperMatt | tea drinking is declining | 09:03 |
| SuperMatt | and I'm one of those tea shirkers sending tetley's stocks plumetting | 09:03 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Son and Daughter Day! 😃 | 09:07 |
| MooDoo | morning JamesTait | 09:28 |
| === marshmn|work is now known as marshmn | ||
| JamesTait | 👋 MooDoo | 09:30 |
| JohnHunt | MooDoo: brits always say 'I'm fine thanks' even if in the depths of dispair | 09:44 |
| JohnHunt | :p | 09:44 |
| popey | hello JohnHunt, long time no see | 09:45 |
| JohnHunt | yes, been busy | 09:45 |
| JohnHunt | became a dad in December | 09:45 |
| JohnHunt | 'nuff said right? :) | 09:45 |
| JohnHunt | I just happened to be on freenode, thought I'd pop in here | 09:46 |
| JohnHunt | are you still an ubuntu ambassador? | 09:46 |
| popey | hehe | 09:49 |
| knightwise | Ok :) Got the oll chromebook back from a loan | 11:59 |
| knightwise | What to do with it ... | 12:00 |
| knightwise | (perhaps turn it into a cheap carry-everywhere linux box ? ) | 12:00 |
| knightwise | Thinking of running Kali on it | 12:00 |
| BigRedS | just wander round pentesting things? :) | 12:02 |
| knightwise | BigRedS: kinda | 12:04 |
| knightwise | Got me the kali cookbook | 12:04 |
| knightwise | and the social engineering guide | 12:04 |
| BigRedS | ooh, actually that sounds like the sort of thing I should probably have a crack at | 12:08 |
| knightwise | I think I can run it on Crouton but i'm not a 100 percent sure if things like wifi sniffers will have direct access to the hardware | 12:09 |
| BigRedS | ooh, the kindle edition of that looks a bit carelessly assembled | 12:12 |
| BigRedS | only £2 though... | 12:12 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| knightwise | BigRedS: 2 ? | 12:52 |
| knightwise | BigRedS: I found the pdf versions of both books somewhere | 12:54 |
| brmbrmcar | freenode is overdue to go off! | 13:08 |
| foobarry | packtpub were giving it away the other day | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | brmbrmcar: to go off? | 13:09 |
| foobarry | i forgot to check the site and missed it though | 13:09 |
| brmbrmcar | 22:28:59 -e(e@freenode/staff/spy.edk)- [global notice] freenode webchat will be offline for maintenance for a short time tomorrow starting at 13:00 UTC. Sorry for any inconvenience and thank you for using freenode. | 13:09 |
| Myrtti | oh, webchat. | 13:10 |
| brmbrmcar | That is what I mean | 13:10 |
| brmbrmcar | oh, webchat | 13:10 |
| MooDoo | I don't use webchat so I'm ok | 13:10 |
| MooDoo | :) | 13:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | webchat... pffft... kids... :-P | 13:10 |
| brmbrmcar | Neither do I | 13:10 |
| brmbrmcar | I thought it was all chat | 13:10 |
| foobarry | seem to have solved my problem of coaster baking, since mp3 Cds are working at home but not in the car.. use k3b instead and burn at 8x | 13:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | all chat going down would be big and i'd expect to see mention everywhere... | 13:11 |
| diddledan | here's a fun one for adults: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/07/your_sec_toy_is_spying_on_you_hackers_crack_our_plastic_pals/ | 13:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | i was thinking about what sort of info you could extrapulate from such a device... | 13:41 |
| diddledan | next episode of mr robot is on amazon prime | 14:04 |
| diddledan | (released today) | 14:04 |
| === layke is now known as Guest27918 | ||
| foobarry | which ep diddledan | 14:36 |
| foobarry | think i am on se2ep2 | 14:36 |
| diddledan | 5 | 14:36 |
| diddledan | nope, 6 | 14:36 |
| foobarry | ah good | 14:37 |
| foobarry | has anything happened yet? no spoilers ofc | 14:37 |
| diddledan | yes. | 14:37 |
| diddledan | it's getting going now | 14:37 |
| foobarry | nervous about getting stitched up | 14:37 |
| diddledan | gathering momentum | 14:37 |
| foobarry | until last ep where everything dangling i bet | 14:37 |
| diddledan | prolly | 14:38 |
| === fumble is now known as christel | ||
| m0nkey_ | you guys been watching mr. robot too? | 15:32 |
| diddledan | yup | 15:35 |
| bashrc_ | I tried watching mr robot, but got distracted | 15:37 |
| diddledan | bashrc_: by the console-porn in the show? | 15:38 |
| diddledan | waggott14: fix your connection | 15:38 |
| bashrc_ | I didn't get as far as that. They all seemed to be talking really slowly | 15:38 |
| BigRedS | yeah, I had a go at watching it, but it turned out it was more about people than computers | 15:46 |
| foobarry | or drugs and craziness in the case of series 1 | 15:56 |
| JohnHunt | yeah, we got through the first 3 eps | 15:57 |
| JohnHunt | then it was a bit of a yawnfest | 15:57 |
| JohnHunt | I heartily recommend watching star trek: the next generation instead | 15:57 |
| foobarry | i found mr robot compelling but reserved judgement until i know if they are gonna do a lost /under the dome/ etc and string everyone long | 15:58 |
| foobarry | and sacrifice story for viewers | 15:58 |
| JohnHunt | yeah heh | 15:58 |
| JohnHunt | I don't have time for that | 15:58 |
| JohnHunt | I watch about 2hrs of tv a month | 15:58 |
| JohnHunt | it's gotta be good | 15:58 |
| JohnHunt | right, home time | 15:59 |
| === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar | ||
| === Chunkyz_ is now known as Chunkyz | ||
| diddledan | ICANN are currently doing a DNSSEC root key refresh ceremony | 20:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | swapping sacred scrolls? | 20:35 |
| diddledan | something like that | 20:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | and swapping external hard drives with all their media at the same time... :-P | 20:37 |
| diddledan | it's VERY analogue | 20:40 |
| diddledan | but in a digital way | 20:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | they put the keys on vinyl... just like the old 8-bit days... | 20:41 |
| diddledan | lots of hand-written forms/audit logs. two safes | 20:41 |
| diddledan | and a little trolly | 20:41 |
| diddledan | hah, they're using centos for their secure os | 20:57 |
| diddledan | unclear which release it is tho | 20:58 |
| diddledan | looks like gnome2 | 20:58 |
| diddledan | so a fairly old one | 20:58 |
| daftykins | evening all | 21:03 |
| daftykins | thought i'd go fishing to see what i could catch for playing with this old server :) | 21:03 |
| daftykins | http://dafty.rocks/stuff/disks.jpg | 21:03 |
| diddledan | :-o | 21:03 |
| diddledan | that's a lotta epeen | 21:04 |
| daftykins | all out of warranty now, 8 x 4TB replaced 'em | 21:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's a lorra lorra 1's and 0's | 21:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | i see mention of seagate putting together a <4pb storage system... | 21:07 |
| * zmoylan-pi checks arthur c. clarkes timeline and seems about on time... | 21:07 | |
| diddledan | isn't 1KB <4PB? | 21:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | depends if you're sandisk or not | 21:08 |
| diddledan | well surely most storage systems are currently less-than 4 petabytes | 21:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | 3.9pb or so | 21:10 |
| diddledan | my point is you said seagate are putting together a less-than 4 petabyte system which afaict 1 kilobyte is less-than 4 petabytes | 21:11 |
| diddledan | I think what you wanted was ~4PB | 21:11 |
| * zmoylan-pi is more literal and ~4pb is around 4pb whereas <4pb is just under 4pb... | 21:12 | |
| diddledan | no, <4PB means literally ANYTHING BELOW 4PB | 21:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | literally yes but can also be used to imply just under in common usage | 21:13 |
| * zmoylan-pi will be playing d&d this weekend with pedantic dm so am probably flexing my vague language to irk him... i should do that less... :-P | 21:17 | |
| zmoylan-pi | 4pb is kinda special as it was once calculated as capable of storing a text only copy of library of congress | 21:23 |
| brobostigon | :D | 21:23 |
| popey | i remember watching an episode of star trek enterprise where something happened where all the data on the ship computer. it said something like "4 XiB Deleted" | 21:31 |
| popey | which is convenient that XiB is undefined | 21:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah they don't use binary in trek universe... apart from the binars aiui... | 21:31 |
| diddledan | xenialbibytes | 21:31 |
| diddledan | trinary ftw | 21:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | any units they give would date so fast... | 21:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | that it took hours for stations computer to recognise song in ds9 now looks a bit sad... | 21:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | we now expect searches to be _very_ fast even complicated ones | 21:33 |
| diddledan | don't forget startrek ds9 had the data of MANY civilisations' songs in the databanks | 21:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | so the database is a 100,000 times bigger... it would still be indexed with a much faster computer to search it | 21:34 |
| diddledan | it prolly had to use shortwave or subspace comms to talk with other computers to get the data | 21:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | considering the trillions of calculations they stuffed into data's skull the space stations computer should be pretty nippy | 21:35 |
| diddledan | yeah, but it's probably running off a raspi | 21:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | even if it is a cardassisan military jobbie | 21:36 |
| diddledan | you know what with cutbacks and stuff | 21:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | red leaf pi for the cardassian | 21:36 |
| diddledan | commies | 21:36 |
| diddledan | ? | 21:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | so station would have made a quick link to bajor to it's musical database and scored a hit fairly quickly for a bajoran musician | 21:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | whoops trill... | 21:39 |
| diddledan | at 112k baud?! | 21:39 |
| diddledan | :-p | 21:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | 300baud bell mode... | 21:40 |
| * diddledan screeches | 21:40 | |
| zmoylan-pi | watch those characters scroll past... | 21:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | or prestel!! | 21:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | v23 1200/75 | 21:41 |
| * diddledan throws up a little bit in his mouth | 21:42 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i remember been really excited when they launched minitel in ireland till i learned how they were going to have 0 free services... | 21:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | for some reason i don't understand it didn't take off... | 21:44 |
| daftykins | all disks plugged in and fired up! | 21:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | daftykins desk now has gyroscopic stabilisers... :-) | 21:47 |
| daftykins | Model: AMCC 9650SE-8LP DISK (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 12.0TB | 21:48 |
| * zmoylan-pi wonders how many legs we can cut off desk and still have it remain level... :-P | 21:48 | |
| daftykins | yay juggled a few disks around to have them in numerical order ;) | 21:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | ascending or descending? | 21:53 |
| daftykins | 0 through 7 from top to bottom! | 21:53 |
| daftykins | been a few moons since those little guys were verified, so that's what they appear to be doing! | 21:54 |
| daftykins | hardware RAID is so nice ;) | 21:54 |
| * zmoylan-pi having only dealt with raid when it goes horribly wrong lumps the technology unfairly in with tape drives which also only came my way when everything went wrong... | 21:55 | |
| diddledan | yeah, but this is daftykins.. if they weren't going horribly wrong before they will do now | 21:57 |
| daftykins | XD | 21:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | does daftykins have a cat to push the high stack of hard drives off the desk? :-) | 21:59 |
| daftykins | despite wiping those drives down before i loaded them up in my backpack, my word they were dusty | 21:59 |
| daftykins | i do! but so far she's only conveyed a hatred toward Apple products | 21:59 |
| daftykins | clever girl. | 21:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | dust means undisturbed with little vibration | 21:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | expensive cat... seems normal... :-) | 21:59 |
| daftykins | put her near cables, the white ones get it - none else | 22:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | we had a cat as a kid that bit and chewed everything... my father 'cured' her by rubbing a tiny bit of mustard into his hand and provoking the cat to bite him... the cat learned humans taste horrible that day and started limiting her biting | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | i can still remember her running backwards into the kitchen to drink some milk to get the horrible taste of human out of her mouth | 22:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | 272 to 512 years old... wow, just wow... http://www.nature.com/news/near-blind-shark-is-world-s-longest-lived-vertebrate-1.20406 | 22:18 |
| daftykins | haha | 22:23 |
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