[11:00] <sakrecoer> krytaril autumna : yes i was convinced. but to be fair, argument 1.) isn't what turned me. 'fits better' is kindof like 'pretier' imho. but 2.) is a fair and tangible argument. our blue is beautifull, but very vivid. it works well in branding, but everywhere on the desktop takes its toll on the eyes, as opposed to the more neutral greybird blue.
[11:00] <sakrecoer> krytarik, even :)
[11:01] <sakrecoer> i tried both blue that is
[11:04] <sakrecoer> good to read you found a value, autumna. i still hope we get the SVGs in time so we can have exact colors.
[11:04] <autumna> I think the current state is a good backup solution if svgs don't arrive in time
[11:05] <autumna> also from what i can see there are no darker shades in the pngs
[13:33] <krytarik> sakrecoer: Very well then - "fits better the rest of the theming" is more objective, while "is too bright" is subjective, so I went with the less arguable option - but glad that you got there either way.. :P
[13:45] <sakrecoer> krytarik: :) i'll agree to dissagree: "too bright" affects readability, so i find that less subjective than "fits better"... never the less, your arguementation was perfect, and yes, i agree with you on the outcome :)
[13:46] <sakrecoer> also, hi all!
[13:47] <cfhowlett> yowza!
[13:49] <cfhowlett> sakrecoer, have you seen these?  while there is not one for ubuntu, I suspect we could (and should) put one together.  might make a nice background for videos
[13:49] <cfhowlett> http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/bn/node/269
[13:49] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett, tomodachi! genki? let me see...
[13:51] <sakrecoer> yeah, that would be nice indeed :)
[13:52] <cfhowlett> also for video overall, check this styling out: https://www.xiph.org/video/vid1.shtml
[13:53] <cfhowlett> also see part 2:  http://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
[13:55] <cfhowlett> see the last minute for credits.  I like the stying
[14:07] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: so you don't like the ones i did? :D
[14:07] <cfhowlett> I did NOT say that!  :)
[14:09] <cfhowlett> but since you mention it ... is it worth considering a short sprint contest to solicit user designs?  I REALLY do not want to see the need for the team to do ALL the work.
[14:10] <sakrecoer> sure.. anyways i'm nto saying mine are ultimate.... its just that i made them 2 months ago, and i asked for feedback at that time before rendering them (which takes a while)
[14:11] <cfhowlett> :)  understood. 
[14:11] <sakrecoer> misunderstand me right, i'm not blaming anyone for having other fish to fry here <3
[14:11] <cfhowlett> I probably missed that as I only JUST got my baby back from repair a couple of days ago
[14:12] <sakrecoer> np, cfhowlett :) i read your good intentions.. i'm just... you know... having done the effort and all hahaha, i guess i'm being protective :D
[14:13] <cfhowlett> do we have a main design landing page?
[14:13] <sakrecoer> but, sure, like... ultimately, what would be awesome, is that we manage to make a sketch together, perhaps with the community, then realize it from that..?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> gotta admit, I'm really not a fan of the bizr thing.  I had hoped we might find a more collaborative platform - evernote shared chat and such
[14:13] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork
[14:14] <cfhowlett> right, so where's the link for current, under development projects, aka video tutorial design
[14:15] <sakrecoer> cfhowlett: i'd guess it is missing :D
[14:16] <sakrecoer> on that page that is...
[14:16] <sakrecoer> it landed here instead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Documentation
[14:16] <sakrecoer> wouldn't hurt to make a yakkety art page..
[14:16] <cfhowlett> thus my complaint.  not sure what tools we might use, but I strongly suggest we prioritize ease of collaboration as we go forward
[14:17] <sakrecoer> i couldn't agree more... we are still a very small team, i think that is the only issue at stake in that matter..
[14:18] <cfhowlett> plan  for growth.  I see a whole lot of interest folk trickling through on the FB page.  If we make contributing user-friendly, we might just have a need for some scale
[14:24] <cfhowlett> take a look at slack.com
[14:28] <sakrecoer> hmm... convincing slogan "A messaging app for teams who put robotslooks like IRC with sexy mugshots 
[14:29] <sakrecoer> oops.. paste messed up :D
[14:29] <cfhowlett> ?!
[14:29] <sakrecoer> it looks like a sexy IRC, with easy GUI
[14:29] <cfhowlett> there is a native slack for linux (beta) https://slack.com/downloads
[14:30] <cfhowlett> yeah but with archiving, searchability and easy file transfers.  
[14:31] <sakrecoer> yeah... well, this channel is archived and searchable, but a easier filetransfer would be nice yes...
[14:32] <cfhowlett> I'll experiment with it.  again: not suggesting we have done anything wrong, but making it easier would be to the benefit of all.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[14:33] <sakrecoer> cool! let us know about your findings :)
[14:33] <sakrecoer> we are maybe not doing wrong, but we could for sure do better
[14:33] <sakrecoer> or better said: i agree with you
[14:33] <cfhowlett> better yet, please install the beta and let's test it together.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> since we have a bit of lag to indulge ourselves before yakety get's seriousl
[14:36] <sakrecoer> ok i'll try it with you...
[14:37] <sakrecoer> but i admit being dubious about how much this would make things easier: we would still ahve to get everyone to install that software (which i don't know if we can give support for) and in fact we ship all the tools necessary to communicate with the community, except file transfer (although we do have transmission)
[14:39] <sakrecoer> slack is a noon-free deb..
[14:40] <sakrecoer> so, i have it open... what now?
[14:40] <sakrecoer> have you set up a team?
[14:40] <sakrecoer> ubuntustudio.slack.com ?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> yep.  your email adress?  via PM 
[14:41] <cfhowlett> ubuntustudio-dev.slack.com
[14:42] <sakrecoer> so, anyone who wants to join, has first got to reach out to us...
[14:42] <sakrecoer> Unfortunately, this email address
[14:42] <sakrecoer> isn't currently associated with that team.
[14:43] <sakrecoer> and they will reah out via email and/or IRC right?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> right.  pm me and I'll send you an e-vite
[14:43] <cfhowlett> need your email address 
[14:44] <sakrecoer> sent it via pm
[14:44] <cfhowlett> sent evite
[14:48] <cfhowlett> oh, do not disturb mode?  really!
[14:49] <sakrecoer> ?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> I see you logged on and sent you a msg: "DND"
[14:50] <sakrecoer> what?
[14:50] <sakrecoer> i didn't...
[14:52] <sakrecoer> so where is the public archive of the channel?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> let me look for that
[14:53] <sakrecoer> http://slackarchive.io/
[14:54] <cfhowlett> nice!  
[14:54] <sakrecoer> or https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201563847-Archiving-a-channel
[14:54] <cfhowlett> not sure it's *public* but nice
[14:54] <sakrecoer> best seems to be with a bot https://github.com/timblair/slack-archivebot
[14:55] <zequence> sakrecoer: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[14:55] <zequence> Or, which one?
[14:55] <sakrecoer> thanks zequence! i was refering to the slack thing cfhowlett is introducing
[14:56] <sakrecoer> as in, where is the public archive of slack channel
[14:56] <cfhowlett> experimenting with the slack linux app, zequence 
[14:56] <cfhowlett> you are free to join!  pm your emial
[14:56] <zequence> Ok. Just reading the backlog a bit.
[14:58] <zequence> Looks sort of similar to IRC, I suppose
[14:58] <sakrecoer> oh my... i tried to send a link to you... and it opened this funky prompt with 2000 options...
[14:58] <sakrecoer> now, i recieved your welcome..