[05:13] <chesedo> good morning all early ones
[05:22] <paddatrapper> Morning chesedo
[06:25] <inetpro> goeie more
[06:32] <Kilos> morning inetpro chesedo superfly paddatrapper and all others
[06:33] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos
[06:33] <Kilos> hi dlPhreak 
[06:33] <dlPhreak> Morning
[06:33] <chesedo> morning inetpro Kilos paddatrapper
[06:34] <dlPhreak> Hello Kilos, chesedo, etc. Are you all well?
[06:34] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[06:34] <dlPhreak> Brilliant thanks :)
[06:36] <chesedo> yes, all well ty dlPhreak, and self?
[06:36] <chesedo> oh and hi too
[06:38] <dlPhreak> I'm doing quite well thank you, chesedo 
[06:41] <dlPhreak> TGIF!
[06:45] <Kilos> Maaz tell magespawn You are late
[06:45] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[07:00] <theblazehen> hey guys
[07:00] <dlPhreak> Mornign theblazehen 
[07:02] <dlPhreak> %s/Mornign/Morning/gc
[07:03] <nsnzero> morning all 
[07:05] <Kilos> hi theblazehen nsnzero 
[07:07] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[07:08] <nsnzero> morning Kilos , theblazehen 
[07:08] <theblazehen> hi nsnzero
[07:08] <nsnzero> Kilos: did you manage to figure out the flags you needed ?
[07:10] <Kilos> ill get to that just now please nsnzero 
[07:10] <Kilos> gotta go let sheep out
[07:11] <Kilos> read lots but still need to work it all out
[07:11] <Kilos> wbb
[07:11] <nsnzero> i got to go to town now - got circulars to pick up - be back abit latter on 
[07:11] <nsnzero> cheers 
[08:30] <magespawn> good morning
[08:30] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn You are late" 1 hour, 44 minutes and 30 seconds ago
[08:30] <Kilos> hehe
[08:30] <magespawn> Late for?
[08:30] <Kilos> early morning greetings
[08:31] <magespawn> ahh right
[08:31] <magespawn> was working till 21:00 last night, so took it a bit slower this morning
[08:31] <Kilos> ai!
[08:42] <magespawn> getting old
[08:42] <Kilos> haha
[08:46] <_shaun_> hi guys i get the error message ive run out of space when i try pip install, is my /usr/local taking up space and what can i free up?
[08:49] <theblazehen> _shaun_: Try `df -h` to see
[08:51] <_shaun_> my /usr/lib only has 158mb and /usr is 244.7 pip install gives me these error messages and numpy seems to have broken, what is safe to delete? can i delete the entire /usr/lib or what should i not delete
[08:51] <Kilos> hi _shaun_ welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:51] <_shaun_> hi kilos howzit
[08:51] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[08:52] <_shaun_> im fine thanks
[08:56] <Kilos> hi  Cryterion 
[08:56] <Cryterion> Morning
[09:28] <superfly> _shaun_: why are you using pip on a system level
[09:29] <superfly> _shaun_: that's a bad idea. if you need custom depedencies, use virtualenv
[10:48] <nsnzero> trying out the wayland display server - its faster than x 
[10:51] <Kilos> haha theres a guy called grumble on another channel
[10:51] <Kilos> first of all thought it was gremble
[11:35] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Yeah. But it's not X
[11:35] <theblazehen> So no (?) multi monitor
[11:35] <theblazehen> No xrandr
[11:35] <theblazehen> No awesomewm
[11:35] <theblazehen> No xbindkeys
[11:35] <theblazehen> no xeyes
[11:35] <theblazehen> no xmodmap
[11:36] <theblazehen> no xkill
[11:36] <theblazehen> no X forwarding
[11:44] <Kilos> hi jeffe 
[11:45] <nsnzero> also no remote client , no print server which x has built-in , but no-lag 
[11:45] <jeffe> Hi Kilos
[11:47] <nsnzero> hi jeffe 
[11:49] <theblazehen> nsnzero: They removed the print server
[11:50] <nsnzero> theblazehen: didn't know that - x was a complete operating system at 1 stage 
[11:54] <MaNI> they'll slowly add all this stuff back to wayland and then one day decide wayland is too slow and start again with a new 'slim' version
[11:54] <MaNI> and so the eternal cycle continues
[12:03] <nsnzero> that what happens when there are too many coders - everyone wants/ has their own ideas and  implements same into the system 
[12:03] <ra1v3n> Hello all
[12:03] <Kilos> hi ra1v3n 
[12:04] <nsnzero> afternoon ra1v3n
[12:04] <ra1v3n> Hello Kilos and nsnzero 
[12:05] <nsnzero> chat later - closing  up early 
[12:06] <Kilos> ok
[17:26] <magespawn> Looks like peer and tomeout have been the bussiest here today
[17:31] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:38] <SEptic> evening all
[17:38] <Kilos> hi SEptic 
[17:39] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[17:45] <theblazehen> hi Kilos SEptic
[17:46] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:46] <SEptic> hey
[17:47] <theblazehen> SEptic: You look at temple OS any more?
[17:48] <SEptic> will lewk tonight, was just fiddling with ubuntu server and samba
[17:48] <theblazehen> 0x6a VGA mode isn't an actual "VGA" mode, but a de facto standard. Used by windows 3.11 to get 800x600 etc
[17:48] <theblazehen> Nice
[17:48] <theblazehen> Gonna try physical hardware
[17:48] <SEptic> aah i see
[17:49] <theblazehen> So, de facto standard, but QEMU only used actual standards
[17:51] <SEptic> looking up that qemu... pretty fancy stuff
[17:52] <theblazehen> Yeah
[17:52] <theblazehen> http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/vgabios/vgatables.h?revision=1.10&root=vgabios&view=markup vga bios they use
[17:52] <theblazehen> It has a mode for 6a though
[17:52] <theblazehen> But it just freezes
[17:55] <SEptic> whats your colour depth?
[17:56] <captine> eve all
[17:56] <SEptic> evening captine
[17:57] <Kilos> hi captine 
[17:58] <d`_`b> Hi captine, SEptic Kilos theblazehen
[17:58] <Kilos> hi d`_`b 
[17:58] <SEptic> hey d'_'b
[17:59] <SEptic> hey d`_`b
[17:59] <SEptic> my bad
[17:59] <d`_`b> theblazehen: you tried temple OS before?
[18:00] <theblazehen> SEptic: 16 colors. hey d`_`b
[18:00] <theblazehen> Yeah, even got it running at 1024x512 16 color before
[18:00] <d`_`b> Would that intterupt 10 trick be actual VGA, I think it was called xmode or something.
[18:00] <theblazehen> I'm a fan
[18:01] <theblazehen> d`_`b: Well, you call int 10h
[18:01] <theblazehen> Then you either set AH=00h
[18:01] <theblazehen> To set a VGA mode
[18:02] <SEptic> your host OS?
[18:02] <d`_`b> any reason why you a fan? AS
[18:02] <theblazehen> or you set AH=13h, and set AX= the VESA call you want (In this case 0x4F02) and then BX to the mode you want
[18:02] <d`_`b> oops*
[18:03] <theblazehen> SEptic: Ah. 32 bit I believe. Whatever the linux default is. But it's using VNC with virt-manager anyway, no interaction with guest there
[18:03] <d`_`b> As I understand the guy is a bit radical. But a lot of people seem to admire the technical abaility behind TempleOS
[18:04] <theblazehen> d`_`b: Gets rid of legacy crap, has great interface (In terms of global auto complete, graphics and flowcharts in code)
[18:04] <theblazehen> And the JIT compiler is great
[18:04] <theblazehen> Even the kernel (apart from the 16 and 32 and final 64 bit assembly bits) is run in the JIT compiler
[18:04] <d`_`b> What can I actually run in it today? There Bash, Vim, Tmux?
[18:05] <theblazehen> d`_`b: Well, there isn't much third party stuff
[18:06] <theblazehen> But he has built in text editor
[18:06] <theblazehen> Just do Dir();
[18:06] <d`_`b> I wanted to be radical and run pc-bsd. But could not get c9 running on it. So I'm happy with my gnu/linux.
[18:06] <theblazehen> click on a file and type
[18:06] <theblazehen> c9?
[18:06] <d`_`b> cloud9
[18:06] <theblazehen> http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Home/Web/AppStore.html#l1
[18:06] <theblazehen> ah
[18:06] <d`_`b> http://c9.io
[18:06] <theblazehen> I know of it
[18:06] <theblazehen> Also, HolyC is kinda neat
[18:07] <smile> o.O
[18:07] <d`_`b> online version a bit slow with the 200 ms lag. But offline version runs like a beast.
[18:07] <theblazehen> hey smile
[18:07] <SEptic> wiki on templeos, woah man, hectic
[18:07] <theblazehen> SEptic: heh
[18:07] <theblazehen> just hit F1
[18:08] <theblazehen> Also cool: You can click on function name in autocomplete (Or anywhere else, really) to go to its definition
[18:09] <SEptic> 100,000 line of code limit for applications
[18:09] <theblazehen> SEptic: Yeah. Unless you fork it
[18:09] <theblazehen> Considering it
[18:09] <smile> hi! :)
[18:14] <SEptic> that video tutorial reminds me of old school CNC-lathe software
[18:17] <magespawn> home time chat tomrrow
[18:18] <theblazehen> cheers magespawn
[18:38] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[18:39] <pavlushka> hello theblazehen
[18:39] <Kilos> o/
[18:39] <pavlushka> o/ Kilos !
[18:39] <Kilos> hehe
[18:40] <theblazehen> hey pavlushka
[18:41] <pavlushka> hehe Kilos , it feels hot, I dont know why, :p
[18:41] <Kilos> you are excited
[18:41]  * pavlushka a bit sweating, lol
[18:41] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] <Langjan> Hi guys, hoe gaan dit Kilos? 
[18:50] <Kilos> hi Langjan baie dankie oom
[18:50] <Kilos> daai goed is brandbek ne
[18:50] <Langjan> Mooi my vriend, jou dag kom nader
[18:50] <Kilos> 18 dae
[18:50] <Kilos> hehe
[18:50] <Langjan> die druppels? Ha ha, jy's pieperig man
[18:51] <Kilos> haha
[18:51] <Langjan> babas drink dit
[18:51] <Kilos> dit brand erger as chili poeier
[18:51] <Langjan> they crave after it
[18:51] <Kilos> maar ek gebruik dit
[18:51] <Langjan> its because you immune system is down
[18:51] <Kilos> anders gaan ek lastig geval word
[18:52] <Langjan> Hoe swakker jou immuniteit hoe meer brand dit
[18:52] <Kilos> haha
[18:52] <Langjan> serious
[18:52] <Kilos> mooi
[18:52] <Kilos> dan weet ons waar ek staan
[18:53] <Kilos> gaan dit goed daar'
[18:53] <Langjan> jy sal nou gou optel, moet net nie longe besoedel nie
[18:53] <Langjan> hier goed dankie
[18:53] <Kilos> koud weer hier
[18:54] <Kilos> ek en debs sal saam ophou met die gif stokkies
[18:54] <Langjan> ons ry more Polokwane-toe vir rolbal agm, dan vir 2 nagte na Mapungubwe nasionale park
[18:54] <Kilos> lekker
[18:54] <Langjan> sien uit, was nog nooit daar nie
[18:54] <Kilos> veels geluk met die balletjies rol
[18:55] <Langjan> dankie, maar hulle rol almal skeef!
[18:55] <Kilos> haha
[18:55] <Kilos> slegte drywer
[18:55] <Langjan> ja seker maar
[18:55] <Langjan> ek gaan uitklok, gesels weer volgende week
[18:56] <Kilos> dankie baie my vriend
[18:56] <Langjan> jy moet lekker slaap en mooi bly
[18:56] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[18:56] <Langjan> dankie Kilos 
[19:20] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:24] <magespawn> good evening