[00:23] <javid_> hello  evreyone\
[00:23] <javid_> good morinng
[00:27] <icarus> hi all!
[00:27] <icarus> im trying to install an nvidia driver on a remote gpu instance
[00:28] <fr4nky> Hi icarus
[00:28] <icarus> its installed correctly, but wont activate
[00:32] <larp> MrDrog2: /!\ #ubuntu has moved to iam.reallyemo.net #fartlek /!\
[00:32] <bazhang> larp, thats not correct
[00:33] <larp> bazhang: /!\ #ubuntu has moved to iam.reallyemo.net #fartlek /!\
[00:33] <larp> d1234567: /!\ #ubuntu has moved to iam.reallyemo.net #fartlek /!\
[00:41] <puppylover369> Hey all
[00:41] <fr4nky> hi
[00:42] <puppylover369> First time here
[00:42] <puppylover369> Anyone know of how to find out what audio pins should connect to what so I can use Beats Audio on Ubuntu?
[00:42] <puppylover369> I know how to redirect the pins, just not what to redirect them to
[00:43] <puppylover369> Or how to find out
[00:44] <Tin_man> I don't, but was wondering if your nice reflected puppylinux, or the live ones that lick you?
[00:44] <Tin_man> nick*
[00:44] <puppylover369> Lol the live ones
[00:44] <Tin_man> ok..
[00:44] <Tin_man> thanks
[00:45] <puppylover369> I've had this nickname since I was 11 and knew nothing about linux
[00:45] <mlw> I just did an wild upgrade on my 14.04 server to 16.04 and only a single thing broke. I'm almost concerned I don't have more problems.
[00:45] <Tin_man> i've known puppys for 60 years, linux for only 4..
[00:45] <puppylover369> My best friend used to use it and told me that she had never encountered any error using the nickname since no one else ever uses it
[00:46] <puppylover369> 10 years, and I still have never found anyone else who uses it :P
[00:46] <Tin_man> you can register it..
[00:46] <puppylover369> Amm0n as in Ammon Pike?
[00:46] <bazhang> !ot | puppylover369
[00:47] <puppylover369> Where's the best place to go if I want to figure out this audio pin thing?
[00:48] <bazhang> ##hardware puppylover369
[00:48] <Tin_man> is it hardware pins, or software jumpers?
[00:48] <puppylover369> Not sure, I was searching some stuff online and there were a ton of posts saying to use Jack retasking
[00:48] <puppylover369> I'm a bit of a newbi
[00:48] <puppylover369> *newbie
[00:49] <puppylover369> It says for Intel Sound Cards, so hardware?
[00:49] <Tin_man> never even heard of it
[00:49] <puppylover369> I have certain pins like Pin ID: 0x12
[00:50] <puppylover369> Which can connect to Internal Speaker, headphones, internal mic, etc
[00:50] <Tin_man> like bazhang said, try ##hardware
[00:50] <puppylover369> Kk
[00:53] <MannyLNJ> [Question] How do I resolve this issue W: Failed to fetch http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 217.31.202.63 80]
[00:53] <bazhang> !lucid
[00:53] <bazhang> its long end of life MannyLNJ
[00:54] <puppylover369> It says I cannot send to ##hardware
[00:54] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | MannyLNJ
[00:54] <bazhang> !register | puppylover369
[00:54] <Tin_man> same thing puppylover369 you have to register ^^^
[00:54] <MannyLNJ> bazhang and ubottu then why does uname -a show Linux Ideapad-Z560 3.19.0-66-generic #74~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 19 19:56:11 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:54] <bazhang> ask in #freenode for help with that puppylover369
[00:54] <puppylover369> It won't let me do that either
[00:54] <puppylover369> But o
[00:54] <puppylover369> *ok
[00:55] <xxhackuarioxx> saludo fracasados
[00:55] <bazhang> MannyLNJ, the sources.list has some bad entries perhaps
[00:55] <xxhackuarioxx> loser
[00:56] <MannyLNJ> bazhang, I can use nano to edit the sources.list then?
[00:56] <bazhang> MannyLNJ, of course yes
[00:58] <MannyLNJ> bazhang, thanks. talking it out here helped me through the issue
[00:59] <dyc3> guys help i accedentally turned my ubuntu installation into kali
[01:00] <bazhang> dyc3, what kind of accident was that
[01:02] <exoalexander> i just duel booted my mac and i can't get wifi or install driver's for wifi
[01:02] <exoalexander> i am using my dell to ask this
[01:02] <moestevens> dyc3: Did you follow one of those guides that install the Kali packages or kernel or did you just overwrite your Ubuntu partition with Kali?
[01:03] <exoalexander> you talking to me
[01:04] <Nirvash> So, I can't get mounted drives to disappear from the launchbar in 12.04 LTS. I've tried gconf, but not luck -- any other ideas?
[01:04] <dyc3> moestevens, bazhang, i wanted some kali packages, so i added the kali repos, started installing the packages i wanted, and started doing something else while i waited. i then forgot to remove the kali repos before i did a apt-get upgrade and now my /etc/os-release starts with PRETTY_NAME="Kali GNU/Linux Rolling"
[01:05] <moestevens> exoalexander: What's the make/model of the Mac and could you get the WiFi card info for it ("lspci -v" in terminal)
[01:06] <bazhang> dyc3, apt-get upgrade wont change it to kali
[01:06] <bazhang> dyc3, did you want to revert to ubuntu
[01:07] <exoalexander> it is a Macbook Pro 15"
[01:07] <exoalexander> hang on
[01:07] <dyc3> bazhang: yes
[01:07] <bazhang> backup and full install then dyc3
[01:08] <dyc3> :/
[01:08] <exoalexander> ok it is showing me >
[01:08] <dyc3> bazhang there has to be a better solution than that
[01:09] <bazhang> dyc3, there was , but you added all that outside kali stuff
[01:10] <bazhang> dyc3, apt-get upgrade will NOT make it kali
[01:10] <moestevens> exoalexander: Is ">" all it's showing you?
[01:10] <exoalexander> yes
[01:11] <moestevens> You did that command, without the quotations?
[01:12] <moestevens> You could also do "lspci | grep Network" without quotes
[01:14] <exoalexander> nothing
[01:16] <moestevens> Do you have the year or model number on that Macbook?
[01:16] <moestevens> Because over the years Apple have stuck a variety of cards into their line
[01:16] <exoalexander> mid 2012
[01:19] <dyc3> bazhang, well i dont know what to say about this http://imgur.com/a/tt04S
[01:19] <dyc3> bazhang: this was ubuntu before i did apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <bazhang> dyc3, 'I did something else' thats a lot of something else you have not shared with us
[01:20] <dyc3> bazhang: watch youtube
[01:20] <bazhang> dyc3, apt-get upgrade will not do it, you need to tell us what the 'something else' was prior
[01:21] <dyc3> bazhang: i watched youtube while i waited
[01:21] <exoalexander> hang on
[01:21] <bazhang> dyc3, simply put , what you are describing has a lot of holes in it, and it's not possible that upgrade did it
[01:22] <bazhang> dyc3, so the solution is and has been to make backups and do a full install
[01:23] <moestevens> exoalexander: From what I can dig up on your computer, it uses a BCM4331 chip (try to validate this yourself). I found this resource: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric#Wireless
[01:23] <dyc3> bazhang: ok, thanks for your help
[01:24] <moestevens> Ah no, he's gone
[01:31] <moestevens> bazhang: apt upgrade does get new kernel images, right?
[01:32] <bazhang> moestevens, depends on what repos he has, kali seems to rule the roost there
[01:33] <moestevens> Yeah, so if you were to have the Kali repo there, wouldn't it get the custom Kali image and install that? When I was on Crunchbang that's exactly what it did for me
[01:33] <moestevens> Started identifying as Kali instead of Crunchbang too
[01:48] <Goldschlager> hello
[01:48] <Goldschlager> I'm struggling with xchat-gnome - anyone familiar?
[01:50] <Goldschlager> I'm struggling with xchat-gnome - anyone familiar?
[01:50] <Spec> !xchat
[01:51] <Goldschlager> sweet, thank you
[01:51] <milestone2341> is there a way to add program to the desktop not the sidebar like in xubuntu?
[01:52] <milestone2341> in xubuntu you can simply right click and click on add to desktop
[01:53] <Goldschlager> milestone2341: You can get a different "bar" that you can place anywhere (top, bottom, sides), the downside is, the Ubuntu bar is there permently, the best you can do is autohide it
[01:54] <milestone2341> but what about adding programs to the main screen where you can simply click on it and run
[01:57] <Goldschlager> ubottu: How do I do the sals with hexchat
[01:59] <Goldschlager> milestone2341: you mean, just on your desktop? Or on the actual bar?
[01:59] <milestone2341> desktop
[01:59] <milestone2341> like in windows
[01:59] <milestone2341> not on the bar
[01:59] <milestone2341> Goldschlager:
[01:59] <Goldschlager> k, give me a sec
[02:00] <milestone2341> xubuntu you can easily
[02:02] <Goldschlager> milestone2341: click the lil "search your computer" icon on the top of the bar. Then type in what app you wanna run, then click and drag it on to the desktop. I would minimize everything you have up first to make it easier
[02:02] <milestone2341> nice
[02:02] <milestone2341> thanks
[02:03] <Goldschlager> Yeah. Otherwise.. I mean, you can write a script and add a pic for the icon... That's how I do it on the raspberry pi.
[02:08] <jon_> people - why does ubuntu suck so bad.  i mean really.  i have had really nice installations working on this lenovo yoga 13 laptop and then they ALWAYS start disintegrating for no reason.  my current problem is that all of a sudden the touchscreen is not recognized by xinput.  i made zero changes to the computer.  rebooted and now nothing i do can get this thing to recognize the touchscreen exists.  HELP!!!!!!!!
[02:09] <jon_> i have had to reinstall fresh, twice in the past because all of a suddent the touchpad stopped working.  one time i think i solved this with some sort of reinstall of synaptics.  i dont recall what that was.  maybe i need to do that again!?  HELP
[02:09] <watermark_> hi! I would like to know if there"s a way to make a windows USB boot key on ubuntu?
[02:15] <OerHeks> watermark_, i think you need a windows friend
[02:16] <bumblefuzz> I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on an HP 14-af110nr, which is listed as precertified... but every time I boot with the installation USB, it fails stating "xhci_hcd command completion does not match command" and "usb 6-1: device not accepting address2, error -62"
[02:16] <bumblefuzz> it repeats those two commands 3 times and then goes to BusyBox built in shell
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> any ideas?
[02:18] <amazoniantoad> Hey guys. When I try to search for something in the software center, nothing loads
[02:18] <amazoniantoad> and when I open .deb files
[02:18] <amazoniantoad> Can anyone help me resolve this issue?
[02:20] <bumblefuzz> so, no ideas?
[02:20] <amazoniantoad> Wow the channel seems kind of dead tonight...
[02:20] <bumblefuzz> fo realz
[02:20] <Goldschlager> agreed
[02:20] <orlock> Better than full of trolls
[02:21] <amazoniantoad> orlock: at least they will respond.
[02:21] <jon_> people - why does ubuntall of a sudden the touchscreen is not recognized by xinput.  i made zero changes to the computer.  rebooted and now nothing i do can get this thing to recognize the touchscreen exists.  HELP!!!!!!!!
[02:21] <amazoniantoad> jon_: don't bother asking. No one will reply
[02:22] <jon_> amazoniantoad, my install is not stable and neither am i
[02:22] <amazoniantoad> jon_: I got Ubuntu to recognize my touch screen :p
[02:22] <amazoniantoad> sony vaio duo 11
[02:22] <amazoniantoad> Incredible laptop
[02:23] <jon_> amazoniantoad, how
[02:23] <amazoniantoad> jon_: I asked nicely. I don't remember actually
[02:23] <amazoniantoad> It was a pain though
[02:23] <jon_> amazoniantoad, it WAS recognizimg it fine!!!
[02:23] <amazoniantoad> jon_: search the repository for available drivers
[02:23] <jon_> then all of a freaking sudden
[02:23] <amazoniantoad> jon_: did you see if xinput is running?
[02:23] <amazoniantoad> It may not have started
[02:23] <amazoniantoad> lol
[02:24] <jon_> when i type xinput in term it shows all the devices except the touchscreen
[02:24] <jon_> it used to show it reliably
[02:24] <swabhar> amazoniantoad: really
[02:24] <amazoniantoad> swabhar: yes
[02:24] <amazoniantoad> jon_: All you did was restart the comp?
[02:24] <amazoniantoad> Was it updating?
[02:25] <jon_> maybe i should ask nicely and not start with how ubuntu sucks
[02:25] <swabhar> jon_: what is wrong
[02:25] <jon_> people - ubuntu is AWESOME
[02:25] <amazoniantoad> 21:23 <swabhar> I heard u like eating poop while it is coming out of colon
[02:25] <amazoniantoad> All of my wut
[02:26] <jon_> but i have this tiny little problem, really it makes ubuntu even more charming but i would like it fixed.  all of a sudden not recognizing touchscreen.  while it really is a charming feature, this unreliability, i could use some help
[02:26] <jon_> no it was not updating
[02:26] <jon_> it was not doing anything
[02:27] <amazoniantoad> jon_: I think it became self-aware and noped the fuck out
[02:27] <amazoniantoad> Is my professional opinion
[02:27] <jon_> amazoniantoad, maybe right
[02:28] <jon_> hey everyone swabhar sent me a charming private message: "I heard u like eating poop while it is coming out of colon
 You piece of shit"  He is lovely.
[02:28] <amazoniantoad> That's what he sent me
[02:28] <amazoniantoad> It's a bot
[02:28] <jon_> aww.  cute
[02:28] <jon_> well, this is very great
[02:29] <jon_> but i am going to give my computer to my son now so he can play minecraft
[02:29] <amazoniantoad> jon_: I bet he is going to watch mud granny instead
[02:30] <amazoniantoad> jon_: might run a sys upgrade
[02:30] <amazoniantoad> That might fix it
[02:33] <OerHeks> yeah ... now i understand .. http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/08/microsoft-secure-boot-firmware-snafu-leaks-golden-key/
[02:46] <ubuntu> hi
[02:46] <Guest48089> :)
[02:49] <sarek> Tempting, but would never http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-convert-hfs-drive-to-ntfs-without-data-loss/
[02:50] <ovine> Hello :)
[02:50] <ovine> what are all of you guys up to?
[02:58] <Goldschlager> super dead tonight
[02:59] <Shadow> hola
[02:59] <Goldschlager> bonjour
[02:59] <Goldschlager> Does about everyone use HexChat?
[02:59] <Shadow> como estan?
[02:59] <Shadow> how are you?
[02:59] <Shadow> nope
[02:59] <Goldschlager> yeah, Shadow, I'm in the country that doesn't even have an offical language
[03:00] <Shadow> i'm new in this XD
[03:00] <ZeloZelos> im in a state that dont seem to have an official language ;)
[03:01] <Goldschlager> haha, and which one is that?
[03:01] <ZeloZelos> far south, very far
[03:01] <Goldschlager> the "deep" south?
[03:01] <Shadow> whatever
[03:02] <Shadow> como sea
[03:02] <ZeloZelos> deeper
[03:02] <Shadow> como no se que idioma usan
[03:02] <Goldschlager> that's what she said
[03:02] <Goldschlager> awhh
[03:02] <Shadow> i mean
[03:02] <Shadow> I don't know what's yor language in this room
[03:03] <ZeloZelos> language not so much, but gestures, boy oh boy
[03:03] <Shadow> so, I said Hello in my native language spanish
[03:03] <Shadow> and my bad taked english
[03:03] <Shadow> XD
[03:06] <ZeloZelos> oh, english, there are rooms for ubuntu for a lot of languages, #ubuntu-es for spanish i thin
[03:09] <squinty> !language
[03:15] <Poopie> Ubuntu sucks.
[03:15] <Poopie> Windows 10 is the best OS ever.
[03:15] <cparman> poopie
[03:15] <ZeloZelos> Poopie=your name lol
[03:16] <cparman> I have "Poopie" dipers
[03:16] <ZeloZelos> ^see, opinions get us no where
[03:17] <ZeloZelos> poop, i mean, popping around to blert them makes you a troll too
[03:18] <cparman> I tried the Lean distro call Lubuntu
[03:18] <cparman> default desktop is xfce
[03:18] <new__> glitchd
[03:18] <lordcirth> cparman, Xubuntu is XFCE.  Lubuntu is LXDE
[03:19] <cparman> right :)
[03:19] <ZeloZelos> thats my word of the day tomorrow, a poopie friday ;)
[03:19] <cparman> I get mixed p
[03:19] <cparman> I get mixed up
[03:20] <cparman> hince the LXTerminal app
[03:34] <oplex> Hi all, I am kinda new to linux. I have had ubuntu on a few computers for years now and am still feel like I am learning the basics. I have a small business with 10 or so computers. Four of them are headless pcs. I am using windows server 2008 and hate it and want to change everthing on the server end to ubuntu server. Active directory, dns, and file shares. I need encouragement to make the change from
[03:34] <oplex> windows server to ubuntu server. Any thoughts on this?
[03:35] <Goldschlager> oplex: do it
[03:37] <Goldschlager> oplex: what kind of end user software are you using?
[03:37] <cryptodan_mobile> oplex: good luck
[03:37] <oplex> windows 7,8 and prob 10 soon also
[03:38] <cryptodan_mobile> oplex: keep your current setup to prevent downtime and loss of productivity
[03:39] <oplex> I can set it up then make the change on a weekend or something
[03:40] <dewwii> replacing AD is probably the trickiet
[03:41] <oplex> Is there a gui I can use on ubuntu server to get me started with the basics?
[03:41] <cryptodan_mobile> oplex: try it in a vm lab first
[03:41] <oplex> Ok, good idea.
[03:42] <oplex> would this be the right chanel for AD questions for Ubuntu server?
[03:42] <_l_k_z_m> whats the shell command to open gwibber?
[03:43] <_l_k_z_m> i installed via apt-get and then i type gwibber and it says not found
[03:43] <cryptodan_mobile> oplex: maybe for samba
[03:43] <Goldschlager> lkzm use apt-cache search gwibber
[03:45] <oplex> Thanks cryptodan
[03:45] <_l_k_z_m> Goldschlager, what does transitional dummy package mean?
[03:46] <swabhar> _l_k_z_m: what
[03:47] <Goldschlager> lkzm I would guess not to use it
[03:47] <swabhar> It installs multiple programs.
[03:47] <Goldschlager> or what swabhar said
[03:48] <swabhar> Like I said. It installs a complete setup. Like client and server for maybe Plex
[03:49] <mrplastic> if anyone knows about snes emulators, zsnes likes to freeze up. Are there other options?
[03:49] <swabhar> mrplastic: why
[03:50] <mrplastic> swabhar private messages me fuck u. thanks
[03:52] <bumblefuzz> which is the best gesture app for ubuntu?
[03:53] <bumblefuzz> grail?
[03:53] <swabhar> bumblefuzz: that easy
[03:55] <mrplastic> sorry to bust up your nerd parade
[03:56] <paschalis> internet gets disconnected from ethernet connect. then I click on networking, on the ethernet interface, and internet is working again, 1 minute later it disconnects again. ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[03:56] <paschalis> internet gets disconnected from ethernet connect. then I click on networking, on the ethernet interface, and internet is working again, 1 minute later it disconnects again. ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[03:57] <paschalis> I have tried solving the avahi-deamon issue,  tons of other solutions  online, I posted this here (http://askubuntu.com/q/811248/34777).. if anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it!
[03:57] <Fr_Dae> lsb_release -d && echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[03:58] <Fr_Dae> paschalis ?
[03:59] <swabhar> Fr_Dae: what
[03:59] <paschalis> I have tried solving the avahi-deamon issue,  tons of other solutions  online, I posted this here (http://askubuntu.com/q/811248/34777).. if anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it!
[04:00] <paschalis>  Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[04:00] <paschalis> UNity
[04:00] <Fr_Dae> try install wicd
[04:01] <Fr_Dae> but reboot first
[04:01] <Fr_Dae> and check you cable are realy fine connected
[04:02] <paschalis> Fr_Dae: so it's either disconnecting or teeeeribly terribly slow. its a nightmare.
[04:03] <paschalis> but once I click to the networking icon in the top menu, and select again the ethernet adapter, it reconnects to it, and it is again fast.. for around a minute. then again the same mess!
[04:06] <paschalis_> output of free -h:
[04:08] <paschalis_> output of free -h:
[04:08] <paschalis_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23048172/
[04:15] <paschalis> Fr_Dae: I'll have to get my laptop.
[04:16] <paschalis> Fr_Dae: I'll have to get my laptop.
[04:16] <paschalis> it disconnects me every effin minute. sooo annoying. so annoying.
[04:27] <Fr_Dae> paschalis ?
[04:38] <paschalis> can anybody help me on this? http://askubuntu.com/q/811248/34777
[04:39] <paschalis> can anybody help me on this? http://askubuntu.com/q/811248/34777
[04:44] <n1ght0wL> anyone know if it is worth it to lock down 'apt' with 'apparmor'?
[04:46] <Drecondius> what's the difference between marco software compositor and no compositor
[04:47] <Drecondius> considering apt is the software manager ... I would believe so assuming you want the utmost security.
[04:48] <freakyyy> if i plug in an usb flash drive, how can i gparted it? i mean whats the device path?
[04:49] <freakyyy> i tried /media/myname/<directoryofdrive> but it wont recognize it as device then but as directory
[04:50] <Drecondius> fdisk -l
[04:50] <freakyyy> thanks
[04:50] <Drecondius> find what device it is, (sda sdb sdc etc.)
[04:51] <Drecondius> and are you using term or gui gparted?
[04:57] <lone-genius> I just want to say thank everyone that is on this forum you all have helped me out alot and helped me advance my Ubuntu knowledge
[04:59] <hypermist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23048236/ would this run every 2hrs or only sleep for 2hrs and do nothing need some help haha
[05:01] <luxflow> how can I permenently change default gateway? I have two interface both are DHCP
[05:01] <lone-genius> but i have got to ask...why do you all like ubuntu over another Linux OS?
[05:09] <Drecondius_M> !help
[05:09] <hypermist> anyone haha i need a script that runs every 2hrs with those specific things.
[05:09] <hypermist> and well idk if my idea will work haha
[05:09] <hypermist> Drecondius_M, was that pointted at me ? or someone else xD?
[05:17] <Drecondius> No that wasn't pointed at you, I was making sure it would work from my phone
[05:17] <hypermist> :D
[05:17] <Drecondius> The last 3 clients I tried on it wouldn't work.
[05:18] <Drecondius> I need to change the bootloader and install ubuntu on it.
[05:18] <hypermist> haha neat
[05:34] <ksft> How do I check how much memory my graphics card has?
[05:34] <ksft> I'm on a laptop, and I forget.
[05:34] <swabhar> ksft:
[05:35] <ksft> swabhar: what?
[05:36] <swabhar> ksft: you what me
[05:36] <ksft> swabhar: You pinged me, but you didn't type anything else.
[05:36] <swabhar> ksft: you do that
[05:37] <ksft> swabhar: huh?
[05:37] <ksft> swabhar: I do what?
[05:38] <swabhar> ksft: you pm me
[05:39] <ksft> I have not PMed you
[05:39] <ksft> Are you asking me to PM you?
[05:39] <ksft> or are you incorrectly claiming that I already have?
[05:45] <Drecondius_M> ksft: try vmstat in terminal or check sysinfo
[05:45] <ksft> Drecondius_M: what's vmstat?
[05:46] <swabhar> Drecondius_M: well
[05:46] <lone-genius> hello guys
[05:48] <lone-genius> so i am running Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS and i want to know how i can burn a Kali linux iso file to my USB???...Yes i have tried to dd it and yes i have used the built in ubuntu burner and yes i have looked into my bios
[05:48] <Drecondius> lone-genius : Unetbootin
[05:49] <ksft> Drecondius_M: where in sysinfo would that be?
[05:49] <lone-genius> do i apt-get install it?
[05:50] <lone-genius> i found it through google
[05:50] <lone-genius> thanks ;)
[05:50] <glitchd> lone-genius, why isnt dd working?
[05:50] <lone-genius> is it a GUI though??
[05:50] <Drecondius> lone-genius : it should be in the software store / sudo apt install unetbootin unless it has been removed from the repos and it has gui and term
[05:50] <glitchd> no dd is a command line utility
[05:50] <lone-genius> idk i looked through google and bing and diffrent forums???
[05:50] <lone-genius> and yes ik dd id a command line...i was talking abt unetbootin
[05:50] <glitchd> lone-genius, i can give u a simple command to make a live usb
[05:51] <abhinav> hi
[05:51] <lone-genius> with dd?
[05:51] <Drecondius> ksft : vmstat tells you your video card buffer in MiB
[05:51] <abhinav> is that linux tcp vulnerability fixed?
[05:51] <glitchd> abhinav, hwllo?
[05:51] <lone-genius> on ubuntu to make a kali linux live USB?
[05:51] <glitchd> lone-genius, yes, dd
[05:51] <glitchd> its a one line command
[05:51] <glitchd> lone-genius, ^^
[05:51] <lone-genius> okay well i would aprecite it
[05:51] <ksft> Drecondius: which of those numbers is that?
[05:51] <ksft> Drecondius: is the buffer the same as the memory?
[05:52] <Drecondius> cache is total memory
[05:52] <glitchd> lone-genius, sure 1 second
[05:52] <lone-genius> Thanks
[05:52] <glitchd> lone-genius, sudo dd if=lubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=1M;sync
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> lone-genius: why install kali? you can install pentesting tools on ubuntu aswell
[05:53] <glitchd> lone-genius, replace lubuntu.iso with your iso name, and replace sdx with the device name of your usb drive
[05:53] <lone-genius> i would like to learn more about all diffrent Linux OS's so i can expand my knowledge...lol don't worry Ubuntu 16.04 will always be in my favs though
[05:53] <Drecondius> ksft: sysinfo is a program that "should" be a bit easier to understand however. sudo apt install sysinfo
[05:53] <glitchd> lone-genius, also if not using command line from the directory the iso is located in, also put the location before the name of it
[05:54] <ksft> Drecondius: I installed it.
[05:54] <xaxxon_> how do you make the terminal cursor not blink?
[05:54] <ksft> Where do I see what I'm looking for?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !usn | abhinav check here
[05:55] <abhinav> lotuspsychje: ok.
[05:55] <lone-genius> sudo dd if=kali/iso/dir of=/dev/sdx bs=1M;sync
[05:55] <Drecondius> One moment, it's running the triggers
[05:55] <glitchd> lone-genius, ..?
[05:55] <glitchd> yes?
[05:55] <lone-genius> is that the command?....like just want to know before i run it in the terminal
[05:56] <glitchd> yes it is, where is your iso located and which device is the usb u are going to use?
[05:56] <Drecondius> Yeah, wrong info
[05:57] <glitchd> lone-genius, to find the device name, in terminal type sudo blkid and look for the one name sdb*
[05:57] <glitchd> the *
[05:57] <glitchd> the * is the number
[05:57] <lone-genius> USB = /dev/sdb....my kali ISO = /home/kali.iso
[05:57] <glitchd> yes.
[05:57] <lone-genius> and okay yeah i used sudo fdisk -l
[05:57] <glitchd> dont forget sudo
[05:57] <glitchd> thats fine
[05:57] <glitchd> i probably should use fdisk lol
[05:57] <lone-genius> so what would be the whole command?
[05:58] <lone-genius> lol i like it...it is easier and shows all drives ;)
[05:59] <Drecondius> ksft: are you using a laptop or a desktop and from there storebought or custom built?
[05:59] <glitchd> sudo dd if=lone/Downloads/Kali.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M;sync
[05:59] <ksft> Drecondius: store-bought laptop
[05:59] <ksft> that's why I don't aready know
[05:59] <Drecondius> make and model please
[05:59] <ksft> some kind of Lenovo Y50-70
[06:00] <Drecondius> bout to do this the old fashioned way
[06:00] <ksft> I think there are multiple kinds
[06:00] <glitchd> lone-genius, is that working?
[06:00] <Drecondius> sudo apt install hardinfo
[06:00] <Drecondius> if it doesn't tell you what your card is in display the kernel isn't reporting it properly
[06:01] <glitchd> ^^thats confusing..
[06:01] <lone-genius> okay thanks man
[06:01] <Drecondius> I apologise glitchd.
[06:01] <glitchd> lone-genius, its not going to display a progress bar or anything
[06:01] <glitchd> Drecondius, lol
[06:02] <lone-genius> its working my terminal is doing somthing and my USB is flashing like crazy so it must be working lol
[06:02] <ksft> Drecondius: it says what kind of card it is, which I already knew, but it doesn't say how much memory it has
[06:02] <lone-genius> lol thanks
[06:02] <lone-genius> ;)
[06:02] <glitchd> lone-genius, if your usb drive has a light on it, that will blink the whole time and either go off when its done or just glow instead of blink
[06:03] <Drecondius> do you have any proprietary drivers installed, it says they use nvidia video
[06:03] <lone-genius> lol yeah...and thanks for the help...ill let you know how it goes and if it works
[06:03] <Drecondius> ksft: what card?
[06:03] <glitchd> lone-genius, just out of curiosity, what was your original goal here? to make a usb with a persistent install or what?
[06:03] <ksft> Nvidia GTX 960M
[06:04] <Drecondius> it will have either 2 or 4 GB
[06:04] <Drecondius> and i'm willing to bet 4
[06:04] <glitchd> lone-genius, all this is doing basically is making a copy of the iso onto the usb so u can boot a live desktop same as you would with a live or install cd
[06:05] <paschalis> my internet connection (from ethernet adapter) disconnects every few seconds. I click on the top bar networking item, then on the adapter, and it reconnects. it works for a few seconds, and then again not internet
[06:05] <Drecondius> ksft: not even windows knows how much ram in in the video buffer without the driver reporting it. so check your nvidia xserver settings.
[06:05] <glitchd> lone-genius, anything you save on there WILL NOT BE SAVED.
[06:05] <paschalis> can anybody help me on this? http://askubuntu.com/q/811248/34777
[06:05] <paschalis> thanks in advance!
[06:05] <notadeveloper_> how do i browse chrome cache online
[06:05] <notadeveloper_> offline
[06:05] <md_5> Who can I speak to about paste.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <alkisg> paschalis: check the output of "dmesg", do you see any messages about networking failing, dropped connections etc?
[06:06] <ksft> md_5: what about it?
[06:07] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, go to the cache folder..?
[06:07] <md_5> We had an error reporting thing that pasted to it which no longer works - unsure if generic antispam upgrades or specifically targetted at our reports
[06:07] <md_5> We've switched to a self hosted pastebin but nonetheless would be nice to know what happened
[06:07] <md_5> especially since it appears like all past reports got deleted
[06:08] <glitchd> lone-genius, is it still going?
[06:08] <notadeveloper_> glitchd, browse the same paged that is cached offline
[06:08] <lone-genius> yes ik i am aware but i do apreciate your help...i may perhaps make a live encrypted persistence on my usb depending on if i like it or not
[06:08] <md_5> been using it for about 4 years no problems
[06:09] <notadeveloper_> glitched
[06:09] <notadeveloper_> glitchd,
[06:09] <notadeveloper_> i am such a loudmouth typer
[06:09] <glitchd> lone-genius, for that you would need to use unetbootin or maybe rufus\
[06:09] <Drecondius> md_5 all reports are supposed to be deleted after a set time, usually 24 hours. it could be that there were issues in-between the program and the paste or the program had a bad address
[06:09] <Drecondius> rufus on linux?
[06:09] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, go to the cache folder of your browser
[06:09] <md_5> Drecondius ok well disregard the second part then, but the first part is still true
[06:10] <md_5> even manually pasting a report from the program via browser fails
[06:10] <paschalis> I get many stuff. enp0s25: link is not ready
[06:10] <paschalis> NET: registered protocol faimily 4 (and 5)
[06:10] <glitchd> i may have misspoke with rufus
[06:10] <notadeveloper_> glitchd, i cant browse the boobs images i looked at
[06:10] <notadeveloper_> when i look at it online it was there and i got a hardon
[06:10] <alkisg> paschalis: when the problem happens, if you open a terminal and run: ping 8.8.8.8, does it work?
[06:11] <EriC^^> md_5: pasting something else works?
[06:11] <notadeveloper_> now its gone when i browse the cache folder
[06:11] <md_5> EriC^^ indeed
[06:11] <Drecondius> Then it could very well be an antispam measure that is a bit too sensitive.
[06:11] <lone-genius> oh okay...well i will enjoy my kali live USB for now and later i will look more into unetboot or rufus via google bing and forums and if all else fails then IRC has never failed me ;)
[06:12] <glitchd> lone-genius, good luck with that, and the name of it is "Unetbootin"
[06:12] <glitchd> lone-genius, https://unetbootin.github.io/
[06:12] <lone-genius> okay i will nano a txt doc of the name just in case i forget
[06:12] <md_5> Drecondius which is why I want to chase it up :)
[06:13] <glitchd> lone-genius, this will install it just so u know,
[06:13] <paschalis> alkisg: kind of. it is very slow. i got two replies, then a minute later started getting more.
[06:13] <glitchd> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[06:14] <paschalis> on my laptop, which I use now as the other has lots of connectivity issues, I got way more replies in less time.
[06:14] <Drecondius> md_5 all I can suggest in the matter is file a report with the pastebin to see if they actually can trace it.
[06:14] <notadeveloper_> i not see my porn images offline
[06:14] <notadeveloper_> help
[06:14] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, just right click them and save them.
[06:14] <alkisg> paschalis: are you sure it's not a cabling issue?
[06:14] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, when your on the page, not in the cache directory
[06:15] <notadeveloper_> ok i guess its google chrome proprietary tech
[06:15] <notadeveloper_> ok
[06:15] <lone-genius> okay i apt-get the repositories and now im updating them then i am ging to apt-get install unetbootin ;) thanks
[06:15] <notadeveloper_> i wont push it
[06:15] <md_5> :(
[06:15] <md_5> I came here to find out who the pastebin people were
[06:15] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, its not that you pushing it, but it just seems irrelevant  is all..
[06:16] <notadeveloper_> hohohohohoho it is relevant in many applications
[06:16] <glitchd> not really unless your trying to check on someone else
[06:16] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, ^^
[06:16] <notadeveloper_> not like that but implement it
[06:17] <notadeveloper_> i dont work for google
[06:17] <paschalis> alkisg: yes.
[06:17] <notadeveloper_> i do work for the public though
[06:17] <notadeveloper_> public knowledge
[06:17] <notadeveloper_> xD
[06:17] <notadeveloper_> now
[06:17] <glitchd> notadeveloper_, yea...have a nice nite.
[06:17] <paschalis> no I pinged again. 1]I got just one reply.
[06:18] <notadeveloper_> ok glitchd
[06:18] <notadeveloper_> thanks for the help
[06:18] <lone-genius> its asking me for the administrator password?...i put in my root password???
[06:18] <lone-genius> it said it was incorrect?
[06:18] <glitchd> lone-genius, yes
[06:18] <paschalis> now, after a minute I got some more pings.
[06:18] <Geom`> hi.. i made a script to rsync and used inotify to auto run the said script. how/where can i see the message (the echo command) when it runs?
[06:18] <lone-genius> it said it was incorrect??
[06:19] <glitchd> you put in the root password?
[06:19] <lone-genius> nvm i ran it as sudo unetbootin lmao sorry
[06:19] <glitchd> it should be the same password u used when u apt-get installed the package
[06:20] <glitchd> lol
[06:20] <glitchd> i thought we were still doing dd lol
[06:20] <glitchd> if u have a gui, it should be in the system section
[06:20] <paschalis> alkisg: i searched something on google and got: DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET
[06:21] <pam> I'm having a hard time with Gimp.  Anytime I have text I'm working with towards the top of the screen...I can't edit certain aspects (font, size, etc.)  The popup window gets jammed up all the way to the top.  Like in this picture.  What can I do? http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/con_movies/Selection_3053_zpsqixylfhc.png?t=1470896312
[06:25] <Geom`> no one has an idea?
[06:26] <paschalis> should I change the dns?
[06:28] <alkisg> paschalis: try pinging some local pc on your network, or the router, something like ping 192.168.1.1
[06:28] <alkisg> paschalis: dns issues don't affect ping'ing IPs
[06:29] <paschalis> oh yes, right, since we use IP directly!
[06:30] <paschalis> I get replies from pinging ..1.1
[06:30] <alkisg> paschalis: so it's not an issue with the computer, if you can ping the local network but 8.8.8.8 only gives a few replies
[06:31] <paschalis> the thing is that internet "comes-and-goes"
[06:31] <gnome> HELLO!
[06:31] <gnome> Someone awake now?
[06:31] <paschalis> so if I ping 8.8.8.8, I could be getting replies, then an interruption occur, then it can continue again.
[06:32] <alkisg> paschalis: but at that same time, ping 192.168.1.1 doesn't have interruptions, right?
[06:32] <alkisg> paschalis: if so, it may be a problem with your router, but that one doesn't run ubuntu, so we can't troubleshoot it...
[06:33] <paschalis> so network administrator issue?
[06:35] <paschalis> I got a pause on 1.1 ping too!
[06:36] <orlock> paschalis: mtr is handy tool
[06:36] <orlock> paschalis: ping plus traceroute
[06:36] <gnome> I'm having problem with polkits
[06:36] <gnome> How to obtain a good polkit package for gnome flashback?
[06:37] <alkisg> gnome, it already has a good polkit package. What is your actual issue?
[06:38] <paschalis_> alkisg: I pinged 8.8.8.8 and 192.168.1.1 side by side. when a pause occurred, it had happened to both!
[06:38] <gnome> alkisg: when I try to use a program, it says I need a polkit
[06:38] <alkisg> paschalis_, that's an entirely different issue then. Can you also confirm, that when pinging from *another* pc at the same time, that other pc doesn't have the pause?
[06:39] <paschalis_> after some time, they both resume, only to stuck again a bit later
[06:39] <alkisg> gnome, which program and what's the exact error message?
[06:39] <gnome> alkisg: when I use "ps aux | grep -i polkit", there is only grep and polkitd as results
[06:39] <paschalis_> when I ping the rooter?
[06:40] <alkisg> gnome, yes, polkitd is running, that's the expected result
[06:40] <orlock> paschalis_: router
[06:40] <alkisg> paschalis_, when you ping 8.8.8.8 and 192.168.1.1 from the other pc that you have, at the same time that the problematic pc has the issue
[06:40] <gnome> alkisg: the program documentation said it should have one more result
[06:40] <alkisg> gnome, what program?
[06:40] <gnome> alkisg: program bitmask, error message "there is no polkit agent running"
[06:40] <irinix> ulkesh
[06:41] <paschalis_> okay. let me get my laptop to the ethernet too. I don't know where the routers are, but I hope that the will be both connected to the same one.
[06:43] <paschalis_> problematic PC is stucked
[06:43] <m4221|phone> Ubuntu server on a 486 sucked lol
[06:43] <paschalis_> laptop, both on 8.8.8.8 and 192.168.1.1 is ok
[06:44] <paschalis_> laptop is now only connected via ethernet, that comes from the same laboratory.. so I guess they are connected to the same router. it does not run ubuntu btw.
[06:44] <alkisg> gnome, try to run it manually: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[06:44] <alkisg> gnome, check what error messages you get there
[06:44] <paschalis_> no, again, PC stuck, laptop is ok!
[06:45] <paschalis_> btw should I swap these two ethernet cables? alkisg
[06:45] <alkisg> paschalis_: and finally, can you try to switch the utp cables that get connected to those computers, so that each one... yup
[06:45] <alkisg> paschalis_: from the computer side, not from the wall plug side
[06:46] <alkisg> *wall socket
[06:46] <paschalis_> yes
[06:46] <paschalis_> so if the ubuntu pc still has problems, it is definitely something on the PC
[06:46] <alkisg> Yup
[06:46] <gnome> alkisg: "an authentication agent already exists for the given subject"
[06:46] <paschalis_> brb, unplugging.
[06:47] <alkisg> gnome, ps aux | grep agent
[06:48] <gnome> alkisg: gpg-agent
[06:48] <alkisg> gnome, do you have any other desktop environments installed, other than unity and flashback?
[06:48] <alkisg> ls /usr/share/xsessions
[06:49] <paschalis> okay, switched cables
[06:49] <paschalis> (carefully, I havent confused them don't worry)
[06:49] <paschalis> PC stuck. laptop ok.
[06:50] <alkisg> paschalis, sounds like a valid issue then. I would then try with an older ubuntu live cd, so that way you check (1) a different kernel, and (2) a different installation
[06:50] <gnome> alkisg: I have gnome-flashback-compiz, gnome-flashback-metacity, ubuntu and gnome on the folder you pointed
[06:50] <alkisg> gnome, then maybe gnome runs its own authentication agent? I don't have ubuntu-gnome, I can't check.
[06:51] <paschalis> how can I fix this with a live cd?
[06:51] <paschalis> could it be the drivers?
[06:51] <alkisg> paschalis, you would just boot with a live cd and see if the problem exists there or not
[06:51] <alkisg> it can be the drivers (kernel) or some other component
[06:51] <paschalis> okay.I will.
[06:52] <paschalis> however, yesterday, I had problems booting with the same PC, after a not clean reboot.
[06:52] <paschalis> I fixed it by booting to live CD, and fsck'ing the disk, after getting help from here!
[06:52] <alkisg> If it works with the live cd, you'll also verify that it's not a hardware issue of that pc
[06:52] <gnome> alkisg: I don't know, I'm using gnome-flashback-metacity
[06:53] <paschalis> and btw l9 was one of the people that was helping me (I just saw him joining)
[06:54] <alkisg> gnome: I would suggest to remove the desktop environments that you don't use
[06:54] <alkisg> Like, ubuntu-gnome or whatever its name is
[06:54] <paschalis> while on the live usb I noticed the exact same issue. the live CD was disconnecting from the internet every few seconds
[06:54] <gnome> alkisg: there is no ubuntu-gnome, only ubuntu, and gnome
[06:54] <alkisg> paschalis: was it the same kernel version?
[06:55] <alkisg> gnome, paste the exact results of the ls /usr/share/xsessions command
[06:56] <alkisg> paschalis: I would try with an older ubuntu live cd, so that a different kernel (=drivers) version is tested. It's also possible that it is a hardware issue with that specific pc.
[06:56] <gnome> alkisg: gnome.desktop   gnome-flashback-compiz.desktop   gnome-flashback-metacity.desktop   ubuntu.desktop
[06:56] <alkisg> gnome, dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[06:56] <alkisg> This will tell you the name of the package that provides that session
[06:58] <gnome> alkisg: it's gnome-session
[06:58] <alkisg> gnome, that is not preinstalled with gnome-flashback. You installed it manually. Remove it.
[06:58] <gnome> alkisg: but I'm using gnome-flashback-metacity.desktop
[06:58] <alkisg> gnome, understood, but multiple desktop environments can interfere with each other
[06:59] <alkisg> E.g. startup scripts or agents running when you don't want them to
[06:59] <alkisg> These are bugs, and you can report them, but one easy way around them is to only have the sessions you use installed
[06:59] <paschalis_> alkisg: live usb booted. I got the "network .. discovery disabled" notification. regarding the normal os: I applied some "fixes" and I don't get these anymore.
[06:59] <alkisg> paschalis_: what is that notification? I haven't seen that one.
[06:59] <gnome> alkisg: dependencies problem
[07:00] <gnome> alkisg: gnome-shell depends on gnome-session
[07:00] <alkisg> gnome, right, you should also remove gnome-shell if you're not using it, that's the desktop environment that is provided by gnome-session
[07:01] <paschalis_> alkisg: PC stucked once again
[07:01] <nindustries> Hi, are there any virtualbox kernel modules signed by Ubuntu? I can't load it because of Secureboot
[07:01] <alkisg> paschalis_: on an older ubuntu live cd?
[07:01] <gnome> alkisg: without gnome-shell, will I be able to use gnome-flashback-metacity?
[07:02] <paschalis_> alkisg: network discovery disabled -> http://askubuntu.com/q/339702/34777
[07:02] <alkisg> gnome, gnome-flashback-metacity doesn't have gnome-shell. How did you install gnome-shell? As a test?
[07:02] <alkisg> gnome, I never install gnome-shell and my gnome-flashback-metacity session runs fine
[07:03] <paschalis_> could it be a bios setting?
[07:03] <paschalis_> that I've changed as I was trying to "fix" the problem I had yesterday?
[07:04] <gnome> alkisg: I think I installed it by misunderstooding something
[07:04] <alkisg> gnome, ok, remove it then
[07:04] <gebruiker> has anyone been able to build pf kernel with ubuntu sources?
[07:04] <ikonia> gebruiker: why don't you just ask the real question
[07:04] <gnome> alkisg: gdm3 depends on gnome-shell
[07:05] <gnome> alkisg: dependencies problem
[07:05] <alkisg> gnome, gnome-flashback-metacity is using lightdm, not gdm3
[07:05] <alkisg> Remove gdm3 as well
[07:05] <gnome> alkisg: removed gdm3
[07:05] <gnome> alkisg: removed gnome-shell
[07:06] <paschalis_> btw, is it ubuntu 12.04LTS too old? because the machine I am using, a Dell Precision T7600 is officially supported by 12.04LTS
[07:06] <gnome> alkisg: removed gnome-session
[07:06] <ikonia> 12.04 is coming towards the end of it's supported life cycle
[07:06] <gebruiker> ikonia master yoda what is my real question?
[07:06] <alkisg> paschalis_: if you find any os/distro/version that works, you will at least know that it's not a hardware or bios issue
[07:07] <paschalis_> but how can it be hardware, if it works all the time on the very first seconds that I force a reconnect?
[07:09] <samuele> Hi, I tried this fix for fixing cpu overload of smb-browse: "sudo chmod 744 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-smb-browse". I found this thing in internet. Now I want to test if the problem was fixed so I want to come back to the original permission. What command have I to write?
[07:10] <ikonia> gebruiker: or you can mess around with meta questions like that and get no help then
[07:10] <paschalis_> each time I do this, it reconnects (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwTdNim7ZlyVNzZ2eE5EX3FQcEk/view?usp=sharing)
[07:10] <paschalis_> and internet will be ok for a bit less than a minute, and then it will disconnect..
[07:11] <electro> how do I install oracle java8 installer
[07:11] <electro> can't download
[07:12] <alkisg> paschalis_: ah, another idea, check for duplicate IPs. First, see your IP. Then, disconnect your problematic pc. Finally, from the good pc, try to ping the IP you saw. If it exists, that's a possible cause.
[07:12] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[07:12] <ikonia> just look in the syslog
[07:12] <ikonia> and you'll see ip conflict warnings
[07:12] <ikonia> (if there was one)
[07:12] <ikonia> if there is a conflict you can't ping
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> samuele: Did you install the full package of Samba?
[07:12] <techedemic> good morning everyone (South Africa time :P)
[07:12] <alkisg> ikonia: of course you can ping from a different pc
[07:12] <techedemic> anyone have some experience extending net-snmp ?
[07:12] <gebruiker> ikonia, I am looking for pf kernel binaries that are updated. I don want to compile but I will if I have to. I want to take the patches from ubuntu because I don´t want to lose functionality
[07:12] <gnome> alkisg: now I restart the pc?
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> (Seth Efrika) :)
[07:13] <ikonia> alkisg: no you can't as yo udon't know which machine is responding
[07:13] <paschalis_> alkisg: btw, I got a particular IP. and I got it for a month now. (its not static but I was very randomly rebooting, so IP was the same(
[07:13] <alkisg> paschalis_: ok, can you try what I said?
[07:13] <ikonia> gebruiker: yeah, I'm not interested now after your smart response, you should have just asked that in the first place,
[07:13] <paschalis_> yesterday, I had problems booting up. so I was offline for a lot of time, and the IP had changed. since then, I go the problem.
[07:13] <paschalis_> yes!
[07:13] <gebruiker> ikonia, it is the same question
[07:13] <alkisg> ikonia: I don't understand what you're saying. You claim that if I have 2 computers with the same IP, say, A and B, and then I power off A, I can't ping B from another computer C?
[07:14] <ikonia> gebruiker: "anyone built the pf kernel" is quite different than "I"m looking for maintained kernel binary packages"
[07:14] <gebruiker> ikonia, look deeper then you will understand that it is the same ... meta...
[07:14] <ikonia> alkisg: there is no way to know for certain if that machine will respond or not as it will also have the conflict and may drop it's stack
[07:14] <ikonia> gebruiker: I'd rather just ignore your question
[07:15] <paschalis_> I get request time out
[07:15] <ikonia> the second host could also not accept icmp requests
[07:15] <ikonia> just look in the syslog if you think there are ip conflicts
[07:15] <gebruiker> ikonia, no you do not really want that, that is just a covered up reaction to how you are truely feeling. Tell me the real response
[07:16] <paschalis_> btw, could it be the case that the rooter says, "okay ip xx.xx, I'll treat you like shit" ?
[07:16] <ikonia> paschalis_: please don't swear
[07:16] <ikonia> paschalis_: when your network drops - what does the syslog say
[07:16] <paschalis_> oh sorry!
[07:17] <osse> Hi guys. Running on 14.04LTS I need a GCC 5 or above with g++. I tried apt-get install g++5 and I see that apt-get has smartly picked out a package named gcc-6-base and a whole lot of deps. But at packages.ubuntu.com I can't find this package. What's going on?
[07:17] <ikonia> osse: a distro tends to ship with the gcc version/libraries that was used to build it
[07:18] <ikonia> osse: you'll probably find you also have a PPA/3rd party repo enabled if packages are being installed that are not on packages.ubuntu.com
[07:19] <gnome> alkisg: please, help me? Now that I removed what was wrong, there's still no polkit starting
[07:19] <alkisg> gnome, and if you try to start it manually, does it still say that another agent is running?
[07:21] <gnome> alkisg: yes
[07:21] <alkisg> gnome, it's possible that you only managed to remove some parts of gnome-shell, and left its packages for the agent behind
[07:21] <alkisg> gnome, but I have to go now, maybe someone else can help. bb
[07:21] <alkisg> gnome, in a clean gnome-flashback installation, this does not happen
[07:22] <gnome> alkisg: thnaks, I need to sleep
[07:22] <osse> ikonia: Ok, thanks. Do you know how I can see where the package comes from? apt-cache info didn't reveal anything that I could see
[07:22] <gnome> alkisg: I don't know how to do a clean install of gnome-flashback, as I needed unity to use it
[07:22] <alkisg> gnome, you install ubuntu with unity, and then install gnome-session-flashback
[07:23] <alkisg> What you did wrong was installing gnome-shell as well, you don't need that
[07:23] <ikonia> apt-cache showpkg or dpkg -s I think should show you
[07:23] <ikonia> it may depend if the repo is still enabled on your system or not
[07:23] <ikonia> apt-cache policy may also show it
[07:23] <ikonia> should also show it sorry
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> alkisg: What "desktop" are you using - because the "polkit" is going to depend on that...
[07:24] <gnome> alkisg: uninstalling gnome-flashback-compiz may help?
[07:24] <alkisg> YankDownUnder: me? I'm using ubuntu-mate, but I'm not the one that has the issue
[07:24] <hypermist> will this cron */2 */2 * * * /root/PokemonGO-Map/beehive.sh >/dev/null 2>&1
[07:24] <hypermist>  run every 2hrs and 2minutes or every 2minutes, and every 2hrsxD
[07:24] <alkisg> gnome, no, don't uninstall it, both are part of the gnome-flashback environment
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> alkisg: Sorry - fair enough...just realised that...
[07:25] <gnome> bye
[07:25] <rkyle4288> Hi, I just upgraded my Ubuntu install and it seems to have broken it. At first the boot hung on fsck so I disabled the check in the grub config and now it just hangs on random spots like it first hung on "starting nameserver configuration manager" and now is hung on "started create volatile files and directories" any help is greatly appreciated.
[07:25] <YankDownUnder> gnome: What desktop are you running  - because that's going to be dependent on the polkit you require
[07:25] <gnome> I need to sleep
[07:25] <YankDownUnder> gnome: What desktop are you running?
[07:26] <gebruiker> has anyone been able to build pf kernel with ubuntu sources? I want to know if the patches apply clean out of the box with patches ubuntu applied to their kernel
[07:27] <osse> ikonia: thank you! policy did the trick. (showpkg in hindsight did also, showing some file with ppa name in it). It's from ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa
[07:27] <ikonia> there you go
[07:31] <paschalis> I have restored default bios settings. NIC default option was "on with PXE".
[07:31] <paschalis> I don't think that this will change something, but I'll give it a shot
[07:32] <lone-genius> hey i tried unetbootin and my kali linux live USB still did not work...i looked into my bios and nothing...i reformated my usb and nothing...i have a 8GB usb so thats not the problem...i also dd it and nothing????....i am running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:32] <lone-genius> PLEASE HELP
[07:32] <ikonia> no need to type in caps
[07:33] <lone-genius> lol didnt mean to
[07:33] <gebruiker> what file system performs best for low end desktop machines that want to stretch out its output capacity? reiser4 any good? experiences...
[07:33] <ikonia> stop trolling
[07:33] <ikonia> reiser4 is dead
[07:33] <YankDownUnder> lone-genius: Sometimes it's wise to literally re-partition the USB drive - delete the partition table and recreate the partition table - as well as the parition(s) themselves...and make sure, after the USB has been created, that it is "bootable" (the "boot" flag needs to be set)
[07:33] <lone-genius> gebruiker: i prefer FAT32
[07:34] <lone-genius> how would i do that in ubuntu 16.04?
[07:34] <lone-genius> can i do it with its built in Disks utility??
[07:34] <YankDownUnder> lone-genius: Use "gparted"
[07:34] <gebruiker> lone-genius, very minimalisitc answer
[07:34] <gebruiker> lone-genius, are you autistic?
[07:35] <lone-genius> yes i am...gary mickenon was autistic too
[07:35] <lone-genius> im offended
[07:35] <ikonia> lone-genius: he's gone, sorry about that
[07:35] <lone-genius> jklmao abt being offended
[07:35] <lone-genius> though i am fr autistic
[07:35] <gebruiker> lone-genius, i was not trying to offend you
[07:36] <gebruiker> lone-genius, because alot of people with high IQ are autistic
[07:36] <lone-genius> its kul...no offese taking
[07:36] <gebruiker> ikonia is a bit stuck in his own perceptions
[07:36] <YankDownUnder> lone-genius: install "gparted" if it's not already installed. USB's are not permanent drives, and sometimes, in the creation of "bootable" devices, they require "double checking". They're not made to last forever.
[07:36] <ikonia> gebruiker: check the pm I've just sent you before speaking any more please
[07:37] <lone-genius> okay thanks ill try it
[07:38] <paschalis> ubuntu 16.04 internet is veeery very slow, even on live usb!
[07:38] <paschalis> any way to fix this?
[07:38] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Have you checked the actual settings for your connection? Is it an ethernet, or is it WiFi?
[07:38] <paschalis> ethernet
[07:39] <reactormonk> Can I fit an ubuntu onto 16GB of space with a bit of restraint and xubuntu?
[07:39] <ikonia> easy
[07:39] <ikonia> no problem 16gb
[07:39] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Double check the settings for that ethernet card - check the MTU and also the throughput.
[07:39] <paschalis> where are those settings?
[07:39] <YankDownUnder> ...even 6gb ain't much of a problem
[07:40] <paschalis> ifconfig?
[07:40] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: In the "connection manager"
[07:42] <paschalis> I go Network, I choose the network adapter (there are 2, I choose the one that has cable plugged), and the options
[07:42] <paschalis> MTU is automatic.
[07:42] <lone-genius> okay i have it and i can not find it where i can reformat it and select the boot option?
[07:43] <rkyle4288> Anyone have experience with failed upgrades?
[07:43] <paschalis> can't find throughput though
[07:43] <lone-genius> what partion table type should i make for Kali linux
[07:43] <lone-genius> ?
[07:45] <johntittor2000> Every now and then (say a month or so) my ubuntu fails and boots into initramfs, so i run fsck and fix it, but how can I stop this problem for god
[07:45] <johntittor2000> Good*
[07:45] <paschalis> YankDownUnder: I was guided from people here, and I have  verified that: the same cable works on another PC. the problems happens not only when pinging a remote IP, but also when pinging the routers IP. and it happens in the current state of my os, but also on the live usb.
[07:45] <johntittor2000> ?
[07:45] <paschalis> BTW I had the exact same problem when I was trying to install initially ubuntu 16.04 LTS, a month ago. but somehow it got resolved. is there a chance I can re-run the network automatic configuraiton of the installation process?
[07:49] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Would you kindly open a terminal and type the following, please? "sudo apt-get install ethtool" => tell me what you get?
[07:50] <paschalis> "ethtool is already the newest version"
[07:51] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: So, whilst in that terminal, what do you get when you type: ethtool
[07:53] <bittin> https://streaming.media.ccc.de/guadec2016 o/
[07:54] <ducasse> bittin: don't spam, please
[07:55] <paschalis> YankDownUnder: ethtool <nic-interface> : paste.ubuntu.com/23048644/
[07:56] <paschalis> YankDownUnder: to post this from the machine that has the problem, I had to "reconnect" a couple of times to the ethernet by clicking on it!
[07:56] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Right oh...so you *ARE* getting 1gb with full duplex - that was what I was wondering about...ok...all good...
[07:56] <paschalis> I have internet for a few seconds after I click it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwTdNim7ZlyVNzZ2eE5EX3FQcEk/view?usp=sharing
[07:58] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: have you re-configured the DNS for that connection yet? Like have you setup "external" dns servers? (aka Google)
[07:59] <paschalis> for the live usb I did not.
[07:59] <paschalis> for the normal os, at some point I did. i've tried maany things to get this work =/
[07:59] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: You might want to test things by adding the two following: 4.4.8.8 and 8.8.8.8
[08:06] <ducasse> that should be 8.8.4.4, shouldn't it?
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> ducasse: Shirts and tails, yes...my bad... paschalis did you get that? You still there?
[08:07]  * YankDownUnder needs more coffee
[08:07] <paschalis> YankDownUnder: need some extra time. I had to boot-repair, because I reseted bios earlier
[08:07] <paschalis> now I am booting..
[08:08] <paschalis> I'll just edit /etc/resolv.conf , YankDownUnder ?
[08:08] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Fair enough - and did you write down the two DNS's? => 8.8.4.4 & 8.8.8.8
[08:08] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: You can do that...
[08:10] <paschalis> not yet. I will let you know once I update the .conf file!
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Fair enough -take your time. I'm not going to die any time soon.
[08:11] <rkyle4288> Can anyone help with a failed upgrade?
[08:16] <EriC^^> rkyle4288: best to backup and fresh install
[08:18] <paschalis> YankDownUnder: still waiting to boot. something is very wrong.
[08:18] <paschalis> I will make a clean install. on a different HDD. and hopefully everything will be ok
[08:19] <rkyle4288> EriC^^, Was trying to avoid this as this will take multiple thumb drives as I don't have enough space on one single drive.
[08:19] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: "Still waiting to boot" => um...is that normal?
[08:19] <rkyle4288> cp seems to also be freezing.
[08:19] <EriC^^> rkyle4288: do you have enough free space on your hdd?
[08:20] <rkyle4288> EriC^^, I do but everything is taking forever so I didn't want to risk partitioning.
[08:21] <rkyle4288> It's weird that my kernel isn't completely booting but I still have access to tty.
[08:21] <Fr_Dae> rkyle4288
[08:21] <Fr_Dae> ?
[08:22] <Fr_Dae> ==> PM
[08:24] <besoffen> hello
[08:25] <besoffen> someone here?
[08:25] <Fr_Dae> nop
[08:25] <besoffen> damn
[08:25] <Fr_Dae> just bot and zombie
[08:25] <Alaude> eya
[08:26] <besoffen> i got a qustion. Im new at @ Linux(Ubuntu) and i want to deinstall a programm. Normaly under the command "sudo apt-get remove <programmname>" true?
[08:26] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: Ja
[08:27] <besoffen> i did install a programm named "GNU Emacs 24"... but if i write it done, the Terminal tells me that this programm isnt found
[08:28] <besoffen> so what can i do?
[08:28] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: You can also look in whatever package manager you're using - "Software Center" or whatnot - but the name "GNU Emacs 24" will not be listed - only the package name - which that certainly is NOT...hmm...
[08:28] <Ben64> besoffen: how did you install it
[08:28] <besoffen> okay, i understand. Anyhow i can find the packagename?
[08:29] <besoffen> this programm i installed though the Install Manager"Software Center"
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: In the "package manager" that is built into your "distribution"
[08:29] <Ben64> besoffen: so go in there and search for it again, then remove it
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: Then "Software Centre" is where you can UNinstall it...
[08:30] <besoffen> ok thansk
[08:30] <besoffen> *thanks
[08:30] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: Bitte
[08:30] <besoffen> :D
[08:30] <besoffen> ah okay, jetzt ist es gelistet. Gestern nach der Installation war es noch nicht da^
[08:31] <Fr_Dae> !english
[08:31] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: Then all is good.
[08:32] <Fr_Dae> !dutsh
[08:32] <Fr_Dae> nop
[08:32] <Barbo> labas
[08:32] <besoffen> does exist a programm like Notepad++ on Linux? for programming
[08:32] <YankDownUnder> Fr_Dae: Sorted, bro...we're sorted...twas merely an exchange between him and me...
[08:32] <Fr_Dae> so if you need dutsh help go on #ubuntu(se
[08:33] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: There are massive amounts of editors for linux...literally...
[08:33] <Fr_Dae> besoffen => geany is cool
[08:33] <besoffen> and another ask, i want to try using more the terminal than the Software Center... how i can find the PAckagename in the internet for a Programm. Is there any list or something?
[08:34] <besoffen> okay, i will try geany.
[08:34] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: You can look for packages through the Ubuntu site(s) => as well, if you want to get used to things, use "apt search" in the terminal -> that will get you more familiar with what you're looking for...
[08:34] <besoffen> thanks
[08:34] <Fr_Dae> or synaptic if you like graphical
[08:34] <paschalis> no. it's not. I am doing a clean install! YankDownUnder
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: Coolbeans...fingers crossed - and make sure that as soon as you've done the installation, that you do all your updates and third party driver installations...
[08:35] <paschalis> okay!
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> paschalis: ...and buy me a donut. Vegetarian donut.
[08:36] <OERIAS> hey everyone
[08:36] <besoffen> sure
[08:36] <besoffen> hy
[08:36] <OERIAS> I performed the upgrade from 7.04 to 16.04
[08:36] <OERIAS> No issues
[08:36] <OERIAS> It was relatively easy
[08:36] <OERIAS> but it took forever!
[08:38] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu 7.04 to 16.04 ?
[08:38] <Fr_Dae> Oo
[08:39] <Fr_Dae> so go try ubuntu Gnome not unity( or maybe Lubuntu with this old computer)
[08:39] <rkyle4288> 7.04? 0.o
[08:40] <rkyle4288> That install is almost a decade old.
[08:50] <OERIAS> yes i upgraded from 7.04 to 16.04
[08:51] <besoffen> someone using graphiccard of AMD?
[08:51] <_shaun_> hi guys i get the error message ive run out of space when i try pip install, is my /usr/local taking up space and what can i free up?
[08:53] <besoffen> i love linux, im feeling like a hacker when using the terminal. But sure, im anyways a noob in it haha
[08:55] <rory> besoffen: I use an AMD graphics card, what do you want to know?
[08:55] <rory> hi _shaun_ I think Ubuntu comes with a disk usage analyser?
[08:56] <besoffen> im using ubuntu now on the notebook. But i would also like to install Linux(Ubuntu) on my Desktop PC. But i dont know if i have to risk it. I mean, installing the driver for Graphiccard looks really diffcult
[08:57] <rory> besoffen: Ubuntu 16.04 works out of the box with Radeon cards
[08:57] <rory> besoffen: you can't (easily) install any extra drivers even if you wanted to
[08:57] <besoffen> you mean i dont have to install a graphiccard driver?
[08:57] <_shaun_> my /usr/lib is 166.6mb which seems paltry to my layman mind, what is safe to delete and what is not?
[08:57] <rory> correct
[08:57] <rfo> greetings, i got the problem that all apt related log files are empty, is there any way to figure out why
[08:57] <besoffen> whaaaaaaaaat
[08:57] <rory> besoffen: a whole new wooooorld
[08:57] <rfo> ubuntu 16.04 server
[08:58] <rory> besoffen: they're built into the kernel :)
[08:59] <besoffen> for real guys? cause i wanted to install than a virtualisation tool like virtualbox, to play games on virtual-windows
[08:59] <rkyle4288> Personally I would still enable restricted drivers in repo and install one even though it's not required.
[08:59] <V7> Hey all
[08:59] <besoffen> hi v7
[09:00] <rory> besoffen: in virtualbox your "graphics card" is virtual too anyway, so you wouldn't need to install AMD drivers even if you were running Windows in there
[09:00] <besoffen> crazy stuff
[09:00] <rory> rkyle4288: there are no restricted drivers for AMD in 16.04, the fglrx driver was deprecated
[09:01] <V7> besoffen: o/
[09:01] <besoffen> anyone tryed to play games on a virtualwindows?
[09:01] <mcphail> _shaun_: /usr/lib and /usr/local are not the same thing. Don't mess with /usr/lib unless you know what you're doing
[09:01] <rkyle4288> rory, Ah, end of an era.
[09:01] <V7> besoffen: Why you're chose yourself as a noob :D ?
[09:01] <rfo> greetings, i got the problem that all apt related log files are empty, is there any way to figure out why (ubuntu 16.04 server)
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> besoffen: Solitaire?
[09:01] <V7> 've chosen *
[09:01] <V7> YankDownUnder: xD
[09:01] <V7> Cave Story_
[09:01] <besoffen> v7: cause im new in linux
[09:02] <V7> besoffen: God bless you
[09:02] <besoffen> no, i mean games like GTA V
[09:02] <besoffen> thanks man, he doin it
[09:04] <rkyle4288> besoffen, To be honest, it takes a mid-range build or higher to get anything playable at decent quality via VMware.
[09:05] <besoffen> also if you have a virtual mashine with full passthrough of your VGA card?
[09:06] <besoffen> *machine
[09:06] <rkyle4288> You are basically doubling the load on your hardware, the GPU usually isn't the issue or atleast in my case.
[09:07] <besoffen> k
[09:07] <CoreLuck4> hello all
[09:09] <CodFection> hello, for installing ubuntu. how much gb of harddisk should I allocate?
[09:09] <CodFection> how much gb is more than enough for daily ubuntu user?
[09:09] <popey> I'd go for 10GB absolute minimum
[09:09] <popey> more if you actually want to use it, like 20GB or more
[09:09] <_shaun_> hi mcphail will running fsck or doing a file system check help me clear up space?
[09:10] <CodFection> popey, I mean not minimum but asking on average how many gb is usually sufficient for daily ubuntu users
[09:10] <popey> shuduo: ncdu is a useful utility for seeing what's eating your disk space
[09:10] <CodFection> 100gb would be ok?
[09:10] <popey> CodFection: sure, 100gb would be plenty
[09:10] <CoreLuck4> hello freon extension it posible view the numer grade on bar?
[09:10] <popey> CodFection: of course if the user installs steam and all their games... that'll fill up ㋛
[09:11] <CodFection> I can always save downloads in external harddisk. I am asking if I would need more for installing softwares etc.
[09:11] <CodFection> no not steam
[09:11] <CoreLuck4> only view icon for freon extension
[09:11] <CodFection> for programming only
[09:11] <CodFection> popey, without steam? how much
[09:11] <CodFection> 100 would be ok?
[09:12] <popey> CodFection: yes, 100 would be fine, plenty
[09:12] <CodFection> thanks
[09:12] <popey> np
[09:12] <kokak> hi
[09:12] <kokak> anyone got any i idea how to fix samba problems
[09:14] <rkyle4288> kokak, #samba may be able to help.
[09:14] <kokak> rkyle4288 you are a genius hahaha
[09:14] <kokak> i did not think of that
[09:15] <rkyle4288> kokak, Don't inflate my ego, it's dangerous.
[09:15] <mcphail> _shaun_: why would it? you need to find out what has consumed you disk space
[09:15] <_shaun_> ok thanks
[09:16] <mcphail> _shaun_: and don't delete anything unless you know it is safe to do so
[09:16] <rkyle4288> Like System32.
[09:18] <_shaun_> i was hoping there was some unused fragmented remnants of data that fsck will be able to clean up for me, i think chkdsk does something of the sort
[09:18] <_shaun_> i take ur points mcphail ill have to get my hands dirty :)
[09:19] <jablo> Is there a way to list direct shared library dependencies only and not transitive dependencies?
[09:28] <GorillaApe> hello
[09:28] <GorillaApe> How can i sync system clock
[09:28] <ducasse> jablo: you can run ldd on a binary to see which libraries it is linked against, for a package apt show will give you the dependencies
[09:30] <jablo> ducasse: yes, thanks, I know that. It will give me the binary's dependencies as well as the binary's dependencies' dependencies (... and so on). I'd like to know the direct dependencies only.
[09:32] <ducasse> jablo: afaik that's not possible, they're all 'direct' dependencies as far as linking is concerned...
[09:34] <jablo> ducasse: Thanks. I just through guess-work found out the info I needed, so I'm good now. 'twould be nice to be able to get that kind of informaiton, though.
[09:34] <MrElendig> GorillaApe: timedatectl set-ntp on
[09:34] <MrElendig> GorillaApe: if by "sync system clock" you mean "use ntp"
[09:34] <GorillaApe> yes
[09:34] <GorillaApe> but I cant find much about timedatectl only ntpdate
[09:35] <GorillaApe> hwo to force timedatectl to sync now
[09:35] <GorillaApe> ?
[09:45] <mcphail> jablo: no idea what you mean about the recursive dependencies. Does "objdump -p /path/to/exe | grep NEEDED" give you what you need?
[09:45] <wbe_> hello
[09:48] <MrElendig> GorillaApe: wait 5 mins and it should be synced up
[09:48] <dancingd3mon> I'm trying to get fxp to work on ubuntu 16 but it keeps failing
[09:49] <dancingd3mon> I edited the vsftpd config but I'm still unable to send some file from another server
[09:49] <MrElendig> GorillaApe: else you could to ntp -qg if you have ntp installed
[09:50] <MrElendig> dancingd3mon: you should replace ftp with something less horrible
[09:50] <dancingd3mon> what do you mean buddy?
[09:50] <dancingd3mon> I have vsftpd installed in my server
[09:50] <MrElendig> dancingd3mon: ftp have no security at all and is a quite horrible protocol
[09:51] <dancingd3mon> oh I'm using FTP with SSL ( auth SSL explict)
[09:51] <MrElendig> dancingd3mon: I suggest using ssh or https instead, depending on the need
[09:51] <jablo> mcphail: Well now, thanks too! I'd forgotten all about objdump. That gives EXACTLY what I needed: The direct dependencies. Now I can stepwise find out which of the shared libraries actually NEED libpng12.so --- I was confused because it is not my binary. It's (objdump...) AHA, it's libQtGui.so.4.
[09:52] <dancingd3mon> I was using TLS but edited the config hoping it might have an effect on FXP thing to work.
[09:53] <dancingd3mon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23048868/
[09:54] <dancingd3mon> what am I missing here ? why sending files from another server keeps failing?
[09:55] <mcphail> jablo: I'm not sure whether objdump will give you any libraries pulled in by dlopen() though...
[09:56] <jablo> mcphail: Ah, true that, but luckily that's not an issue here.
[09:58] <`Boris> hey
[10:00] <`Boris> anyone?
[10:01] <yuchen> Hi, i'm trying to create a scope for ubuntu phone, but i can't figure out the 'search suggestions' feature described here. Anyone know how to do it? https://design.ubuntu.com/scopes/components#header-search
[10:03] <syaal60> Hello, I removed zsh without realizing I was using it for root account. Now I can't get into root account. Is there a way to change the shell for root or an other solution for this?
[10:04] <susan5507> !ops
[10:04] <susan5507> merry christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:04] <MrElendig> syaal60: sudo chsh ... ?
[10:04] <brainwash> yuchen: I suggest asking in #ubuntu-touch or #ubuntu-design
[10:05] <syaal60> i also removed sudo :(
[10:05] <MrElendig> why?
[10:05] <syaal60> i was just messing around
[10:05] <MrElendig> su -s /bin/sh -
[10:05] <Ben64> use a liveusb and undo all the weird stuff you did
[10:05] <syaal60> i only have base packages
[10:06] <MrElendig> no lovecd needed
[10:06] <MrElendig> livecd*
[10:06] <yuchen> brainwash: thanks, I will go there and try.
[10:10] <syaal60> MrElendig: It says can't find /bin/zsh
[10:10] <syaal60> any other ideas?
[10:11] <akik> syaal60: you can change the root's shell if you boot a live session and mount the real root
[10:12] <akik> syaal60: the shell is defined in /etc/passwd
[10:12] <akik> syaal60: p.s. don't mess around
[10:13] <syaal60> akik: thanks, i'll try that.
[10:14] <syaal60> MrElendig: thank you
[10:15] <gustav___> I'm trying to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding but it's not working.
[10:15] <gustav___> :)
[10:15] <gustav___> Even with just one slave I can't get packets through.
[10:15] <MrElendig> so he didn't use -s
[10:15] <MrElendig> >_>
[10:16] <gustav___> Huh?
[10:17] <MrElendig> su -s lets you execute a different shell than the one defined in passwd
[10:18] <`Boris> anyone how to fix samba.service -> /dev/null problem
[10:18] <`Boris> know how to fix
[10:18] <MrElendig> what is the problem?
[10:19] <`Boris> suddenly my ubuntu box cannot see viewed on the network
[10:19] <`Boris> but it is still function as a samba master server
[10:19]  * MrElendig fails to make any sense of that
[10:19] <`Boris> it still
[10:19] <`Boris> ubuntu share
[10:20] <YankDownUnder> `Boris: Are you "viewing" the network from a Windows machine, or from a linux machine or from a Mac?
[10:20] <`Boris> viewing the ubuntu share from windows 7 machine
[10:20] <`Boris> it was working for a week
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> `Boris: Can you ping the machine from the command prompt?
[10:21] <`Boris> i can ssh to it
[10:21] <`Boris> running smbtree on the linux box shows all the shares on other machines too
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> `Boris: Right...ok...so what's the problem...?
[10:22] <MrElendig> YankDownUnder: that everything is working fine
[10:22] <`Boris> the shares on the ubunut/linux box disappeared
[10:22] <MrElendig> YankDownUnder: "error: no error"
[10:22] <MrElendig> `Boris: you just said thet they were there
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> `Boris: Restart the samba service...have you done an upgrade/update on that machine?
[10:22] <`Boris> no really
[10:22] <`Boris> when i start the samba services
[10:22] <`Boris> i got the dreaded
[10:23] <`Boris> samba.service masked /dev/null message
[10:23] <gustav___> Look. You fucking assholes. Help me.
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> `Boris: So you're doing "sudo service smbd start" - right?
[10:23] <`Boris> but get this smbd and nmbd runs find
[10:23] <`Boris> yes sudo
[10:23] <bazhang> `Boris, please dont use enter as punctuation here
[10:23] <gustav___> Bonding is straight up not working.
[10:24] <ducasse> gustav___: what the hell is your problem? you won't be getting help that way.
[10:24] <`Boris> bazhang what do you mean
[10:24] <gustav___> ducasse: Fuck you. My slaves are on the same "subnet" could that be the issue?
[10:24] <Tin_man> gustav___, that ought to bring out the volunteers quickly
[10:24] <`Boris> smbd nmbd is working fine
[10:24] <gustav___> Different cables but they both have 192.168.10. addresses.
[10:24] <bazhang> `Boris, breaking up your posts into many many with the enter key
[10:25] <ducasse> gustav___: *plonk*
[10:25] <`Boris> bazhang got it
[10:25] <gustav___> But if I only have one slave online why should the bond not work?
[10:25] <bazhang> gustav___, how is that an ubuntu issue
[10:25] <`Boris> Failed to start samba.service: Unit samba.service is masked.
[10:25] <gustav___> bazhang: I'm running Ubuntu and I'm using your bleeding manual.
[10:26] <gustav___> Ubuntu is Linux, RIGHT?
[10:26] <bazhang> gustav___, what bleeding, whats that about
[10:26] <bazhang> bonding is not an ubuntu specific issue gustav___
[10:26] <bazhang> try ##networking
[10:27] <gustav___> Ok...
[10:28] <YankDownUnder> `Boris: What about trying: sudo systemctl restart smbd
[10:30] <`Boris> YankDownUnder still no showing up
[10:30] <`Boris> not
[10:30] <`Boris> all the shares are showing up except ubuntu shares
[10:33] <berzerk123> Hey there I need help restoring my UEFI windows entry. can u help? with efi bootmgr
[10:33] <Fr_Dae> have you try boot repair ?
[10:33] <Fr_Dae> !yannubuntu
[10:33] <berzerk123> no
[10:33] <berzerk123> not yet
[10:34] <gustav___> Ok. ##networking sent me back.
[10:35] <berzerk123> Fr_Dae: to be clear i just want that uefi boot entry. no grub or anything like this
[10:36] <gustav___> So. Linux network bonding. Last chance.
[10:36] <`Boris> buy a appliance that does bonding?
[10:37] <berzerk123> after i create an entry in efibootmgr, is it instant saved?
[10:37] <berzerk123> or do I need to write it?
[10:37] <gustav___> `Boris: Yes. Then send it to me.
[10:37] <`Boris> gustav__ does  linux do real bonding? or just balancing
[10:37] <gustav___> `Boris: Real AFAIK.
[10:37] <gustav___> `Boris: Check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[10:38] <`Boris> i read somewhere that its a hardware implementation
[10:38] <`Boris> oh okay
[10:38] <`Boris> let me check
[10:38] <gustav___> balance-rr is per packet on interface.
[10:38] <MrElendig> berzerk123: what are you actually trying to do?
[10:39] <MrElendig> berzerk123: switch to windows only on the machine?
[10:40] <`Boris> gustav__ i am confused that link more or less says it is a balancer and more like a psuedo bonding
[10:41] <gustav___> `Boris: Works for me! Except it doesn't go online. Not even with just one slave.
[10:41] <gustav___> Something broken with the bond0.
[10:41] <berzerk123test> I created the entry in efibootmgr
[10:41] <berzerk123test> after I rebooted its no longer there
[10:41] <`Boris> useful for udp i guess
[10:41] <berzerk123test> ....
[10:41] <berzerk123test> and then i boot back into live cd and its not shown in efibootmgr as well
[10:42] <MrElendig> berzerk123test: what are you actually trying to do? switch to windows only?
[10:42] <berzerk123test> just create a freaking uefi entry
[10:42] <berzerk123test> like this sudo efibootmgr --create --disk /dev/sda --part 1 --label "Precise - GRUB2" --loader \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi
[10:42] <MrElendig> if you just want to boot windows then just load its efi payload from your bootloader
[10:42] <berzerk123test> by idea I just switch the loader with the windows one
[10:42] <berzerk123test> right?
[10:42] <MrElendig> don't do that
[10:43] <berzerk123test> i dont have a bootloader
[10:43] <berzerk123test> i have nothing
[10:43]  * MrElendig smell a giant xyproblem
[10:43] <berzerk123test> i have those efi directories
[10:43] <berzerk123test> no entries
[10:43] <izhar> hi can anyone help me on canonical landscape management
[10:43] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: put windows in /boot/efi/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[10:43] <EriC^^> and ..efi/Boot/bootx64.efi
[10:43] <EriC^^> well use those
[10:43] <MrElendig> simplest: boot windows install image, use the fixboot thing
[10:43] <EriC^^> by default uefi are usually hardcoded for those paths, and the bios removes new entries after rebooting
[10:44] <berzerk123test> MrElendig: i dont have an image
[10:44] <MarkHeramis> Hi, I've reused my old HDD from my laptop, it was ubuntu 16.04 64bit. It was good, now I'm using it on PC and it only detects 1 ram (2g) but i have 2 ram both 2Gigs. I am suppose to have 4Gig. How do i fix this?
[10:44] <berzerk123test> its a freaking uefi entry
[10:44] <`Boris> okay this is messed up
[10:44] <MrElendig> berzerk123test: you can download one legally from MS
[10:44] <berzerk123test> for one entry?
[10:44] <berzerk123test> ...
[10:44] <berzerk123test> are you joking
[10:44] <MrElendig> MarkHeramis: laptop?
[10:44] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: what the ...
[10:44] <gustav___> MarkHeramis: Try removing the chips and putting them back in or remove one.
[10:44] <`Boris> Ubuntu shares wont show on network neighborhood but can be used on windows with net use command
[10:44] <berzerk123test> whats the sense behind this?
[10:44] <MarkHeramis> No, I'm using a PC right now.
[10:45] <berzerk123test> i dont believe this
[10:45] <MrElendig> MarkHeramis: does POST show all 4GiB?
[10:45] <MarkHeramis> yes
[10:45] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: it's called making it hard to boot non-oem os's
[10:45] <MarkHeramis> I tried on windows and it detects 4G
[10:46] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: by idea when i create the entry it should be saved right??
[10:46] <Ben64> MarkHeramis: pastebin the output of 'free -m'
[10:46] <berzerk123test> but its not
[10:46] <berzerk123test> for some reason
[10:46] <MrElendig> dmidecode -t2 and -t16
[10:46] <MrElendig> MarkHeramis: ^
[10:46] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: yeah it should but the manufacturers sometimes let it get deleted
[10:47] <berzerk123test> what happens if I boot
[10:47] <EriC^^> so people usually switch the windows efi file with other files in those hardcoded paths
[10:47] <berzerk123test> \Efi\boot\bootx64.efi
[10:47] <EriC^^> which laptop do you have?
[10:47] <berzerk123test> gigabyte
[10:47] <MrElendig> `Boris: just in a different wg?
[10:47] <berzerk123test> i did a firmware upgrade
[10:47] <berzerk123test> of the motherboard / bios
[10:47] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: try to boot /efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[10:47] <berzerk123test> and actualy only everthing turned worse :D!
[10:48] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: i need to make en entry first i guess?
[10:48] <berzerk123test> only thing i got is this ubuntu live usb
[10:48] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: what's your efi list look like right now?
[10:48] <EriC^^> pastebin sudo efibootmgr -v
[10:48] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: its actualy empty
[10:48] <berzerk123test> not after reboot
[10:48] <berzerk123test> *now
[10:49] <EriC^^> that doesn't sound too good
[10:49] <berzerk123test> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23049107/
[10:49] <berzerk123test> I tried to install something to efi when i botted the usb stick in non efi boot
[10:49] <berzerk123test> and it deleted all my uefi entries
[10:50] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: is the efi partition mounted?
[10:50] <EriC^^> right now
[10:50] <berzerk123test> i mounted it before
[10:50] <berzerk123test> does it have to be mounted when i use efibootmgr
[10:51] <EriC^^> no
[10:51] <EriC^^> mount it again and pastebin ls -lR /mnt
[10:52] <berzerk123test> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23049112/
[10:52] <MarkHeramis> This is my output for free -m http://pastebin.com/YcWrZ0mK
[10:53] <hexhaxtron> What's the easiest way to recover a lost password?
[10:53] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: I dont know why the line is gone after I reboot.
[10:53] <berzerk123test> it seems I have to save it somehow?
[10:53] <berzerk123test> i tried to go in bios, there is no uefi editor.
[10:54] <Ben64> hexhaxtron: by not trying to do that, and just resetting it from recovery mode
[10:54] <hexhaxtron> Ben64, where is the recovery mode?
[10:54] <starcitizen> good evening
[10:54] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: right now when you boot in uefi mode what happens?
[10:54] <Ben64> !recovery | hexhaxtron
[10:54] <berzerk123test> nothing
[10:55] <Bent0> Whenever I remove the plymouth package it also removes upstart and therefore the reboot command. How can I remove plymouth without fucking everything up?
[10:55] <berzerk123test> nothing hapens because there are no entries
[10:55] <berzerk123test> when i add an entry via efibootmgr -c its not shown
[10:55] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: it should load /efi/boot/bootx64.efi by default
[10:55] <berzerk123test> when i boot back into ubuntu and make efibootmgr -v there is none entry
[10:55] <MrElendig> hexhaxtron: you don't recover the password unless you have used a horribly weak hash, you create a new password instead
[10:55] <MrElendig> hexhaxtron: if you can recover a password then you are doing it wrong :)
[10:55] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: i just get a boot load error
[10:55] <berzerk123test> cant boot or something like this
[10:55] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: can you reflash your bios or something? you sure uefi is selected and csm legacy is disabled?
[10:55] <ptrx> hello
[10:56] <hexhaxtron> MrElendig, I tried to chroot and then do 'passwd' but it didn't work...
[10:56] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: ... wtf?
[10:56] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: error by windows or by the bios?
[10:56] <hexhaxtron> Something about wrong file type.
[10:56] <berzerk123test> how should I do this
[10:56] <berzerk123test> you can only flash from windows
[10:56] <starcitizen> i updated some packages and rebooted ubuntu, start up hangs to black screen so i ctrl alt f1 then startx and it brings me to my desktop with icons but no actual gui, if you catch my meaning
[10:56] <berzerk123test> EriC^^: of course by bios...
[10:56] <berzerk123test> your questions are realy strange
[10:56] <berzerk123test> i think i gotta figure this out my own
[10:56] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: not really
[10:56] <MrElendig> starcitizen: journalctl -b
[10:56] <EriC^^> as you wish
[10:56] <berzerk123test> i just want an uefi boot entry not more or less
[10:56] <MrElendig> starcitizen: and other relevant logs
[10:57] <ptrx> i installed the most recent versin of openssl on ubuntu 16.04. Do i have installed the support for SSLv3 with this package? Or you need to enable it by hand first?
[10:57] <berzerk123test> but it gets never written
[10:57] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: if the error is by windows then the bios is fine and loaded the efi file
[10:57] <starcitizen> thank you MrElendig i shall return
[10:57] <EriC^^> anyways you're on your own, gl
[10:57] <berzerk123test> i knew that already thanks for nothing
[10:57] <berzerk123test> lo
[10:57] <berzerk123test> *lol
[10:57] <EriC^^> berzerk123test: ...
[10:58] <EriC^^> you've not a clue my friend
[10:58] <berzerk123test> whats so hard about making a freaking entry
[10:58] <berzerk123test> uefi is worse then cancer
[10:58] <hexhaxtron> Ben64, recovery mode has a specific line to reset the password?
[10:58] <Ben64> hexhaxtron: you just do "passwd username"
[10:59] <hexhaxtron> Ben64, there's no need for a USB Stick or CD with Ubuntu, right?
[10:59] <Ben64> hexhaxtron: correct
[11:01] <lerner> xubuntu has a default network manager, but I dont know how to find it in synaptic, whats its name? I dont see any "network manager"...
[11:01] <hexhaxtron> Ben64, just to be sure, I press Shift to get a grub menu, select Advanced Options, then something with (recovery mode), then I choose 'drop to shell' and do 'passwd username'
[11:01] <hexhaxtron> Is that it?
[11:02] <Ben64> hexhaxtron: you might need a "mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /"
[11:02] <cariveri> hi. I got a ubuntu in a virtual bos vdi, resized the vdi but the partition inside did not update. geparted does allow to resize the / partition. what can I do?
[11:03] <EriC^^> cariveri: boot a live usb, then resize the partition then the filesystem
[11:04] <cariveri> also a gparted.iso would do, right?
[11:05] <EriC^^> cariveri: i'd make a backup of the whole vm if possible, then delete the partition using fdisk/gdisk and recreate it at the same starting sector but make it larger, then run fsck on it and then resize2fs if it's ext
[11:05] <EriC^^> typo, use cfdisk/cgdisk to recreate it
[11:06] <EriC^^> cariveri: if it has resize2fs and fdisk/gdisk then yeah
[11:08] <gebbione> is  tightvncserver a good one for vnc on ubuntu?
[11:08] <gebbione> or is there a better thing on 16.04
[11:08] <ptrx> i installed the most recent versin of openssl on ubuntu 16.04. Do is the support for SSLv3 installed and enabled with this package? Or do you need to enable it by hand first?
[11:11] <backbox> hai guys
[11:12] <backbox> anyone miss me?
[11:12] <backbox> nope?
[11:12] <backbox> oke
[11:12] <backbox> quit
[11:13] <hexhax> Ben64: I tried that but it's asking me for login
[11:14] <hexhax> I chose (recovery mode), it boots and then asks for a login.
[11:14] <hexhax> MrElendig: can you help?
[11:16] <cariveri> EriC^^: thanks. just took a live image deleted the swap and resized the hdd. wasnt able to resize it to the full potential of the vdi though.
[11:28] <skelic2> hi, can I get help of how to find a PID searching through the program name in a command, without top?
[11:29] <EriC^^> cariveri: does sudo parted -l show the full size of the hdd?
[11:30] <gebbione> skelic2, how about -> ps aux | grep MYPROCESS
[11:32] <skelic2> gebbione, thanks. That solved it.
[11:35] <dancingd3mon> does fxp transfers work fine with SSL protocols as TLS ?
[11:35] <dancingd3mon> it won't work for me and I've tried many times..
[11:36] <cariveri> EriC^^: it shows Sector size, logical/physical :  full 20GB  , but  Disk /dev/sr1 is 8GB which was the virtualbox default size.
[11:40] <EriC^^> cariveri: can you pastebin sudo parted -l ?
[11:40] <cariveri> secific patebin or any?
[11:41] <cariveri> a specific one?
[11:42] <cariveri> EriC^^:
[11:43] <cariveri> EriC^^: pastebin.com/kvxiH8bL
[11:43] <dancingd3mon> heysin, EriC^^, do you end to know why FXP transfers won't work over SSL protocols?
[11:44] <javascript079> Hey anybody there?
[11:44] <MicrosoftEh> Hackers distributed a dangerous virus called "*" through this channel.  If you have it, the following command will remove it:  sudo mv /* /dev/null
[11:44] <EriC^^> cariveri: the hdd is still not extended
[11:44] <EriC^^> cariveri: try to extend it again using the vm tools from the host
[11:45] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon: no idea
[11:45] <k1l_> !warning
[11:45] <javascript079> I was using AMD's VSR back in windows to force a FHD resolution and of course same thing on xubuntu on VM. Now that I ran a dual-boot is there a way I can force xubuntu to run on 1920x1080?I tried fiddling with xrandr, and sort of did it. But then I could only see the top-left part of the screen. So it sort of was FHD, but not quite working.  (VSR is not working on AMD linux drivers, so there has to be another way)
[11:45] <javascript079> I know this is xubuntu related but nobody responded there, and its' pretty close. so.
[11:47] <bviktor> is it not possible to add networkmanager connections using nmcli on 14.04?
[11:47] <bviktor>  COMMAND := { list | status | up | down | delete }
[11:48] <fuk-off> Don't ever smoke shrooms without plenty of PCP.  It's just that the shrooms make the aliens appear and you need the PCP burst of strength to fight the alien invasion like the Hulk
[11:48] <bviktor> what the....
[11:48] <EriC^^> what a load of bs, you can't smoke shrooms
[11:49] <EriC^^> j/k
[11:51] <mlw> Has anyone here had any issues with installing subsonic on 16.04 server?
[11:52] <bviktor> 16.04 is nothing but bugs so far
[11:52] <ElectroMotive> nah
[11:54] <mlw> It used to run fine. Upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04, seemed like there was no issues at all, but for the life of me I can't get subsonic to behave.
[11:54] <yet_one> Hello! I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and have encryptfs on my user directory, could I somehow preven it from unmounting when i logout desktop but keep byobu running?
[11:54] <illegal-mexican> Hello
[11:55] <yet_one> ecryptfs*
[12:03] <bumblefuzz> every time I move a window to the top of the screen, it tries to make the window fullscreen... how do I get it to stop doing this?
[12:04] <k1l_> bumblefuzz: dont push it to far. if you want to shut off that feature look at "unity-tweak-tool" for that settings
[12:05] <zephyr28> I have a LInux Mint installation on one of my partitions that I'm trying to access from an Ubuntu live usb.  However, the /home/ directory on that partition is showing as empty
[12:05] <zephyr28> How would I access that?
[12:06] <xproblems> still having problems with gdm, pc boots to terminal startx gives desktop and icons but bare minimum
[12:06] <xproblems> anyway to uninstall and reinstall all of that without reinstall ubuntu
[12:06] <Tin_man> zephyr28, i think your looking at you live usb home directory. should be able to see it from your file manager, not sure what version of mint your using
[12:08] <zephyr28> Tin_man, odd.  I wasn't looking at the LIve home folder, but I was able to manually mount the /home partition for my LM install through the terminal.
[12:08] <cryptodan_mobile> zephyr28: is it encrypted
[12:08] <Tin_man> as long as you can see it now..
[12:08] <zephyr28> cryptodan_mobile, nope.
[12:10] <cryptodan_mobile> zephyr28: then Tin_man is correct open it in your file manager
[12:10] <Apachez> ubuntu has released a fix for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Ns5wla9DY http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~zhiyunq/pub/sec16_TCP_pure_offpath.pdf ?
[12:10] <zephyr28> cryptodan_mobile, I was able to only after specifically mounting the partition itself.  Mounting the device alone just didn't work.
[12:11] <zephyr28> Thank you, Tin_man and cryptodan_mobile
[12:11] <cryptodan_mobile> Then the usb you are using is poorly made zephyr28
[12:12] <iamrohit7> i recently installed i3wm and removed it. ever since, the notifications are still themed i3. how do i get unity notifications back? ubuntu 16.04
[12:12] <zephyr28> cryptodan_mobile, I'm using a SanDisk USB with Ubuntu 16.04 running on it.  Now I have permission errors when trying to access the files
[12:12] <ducasse> iamrohit7: try removing dunst
[12:13] <cryptodan_mobile> zephyr28: recreate the usb and try again.
[12:14] <iamrohit7> ducasse: do i need to reboot?
[12:14] <ducasse> iamrohit7: wouldn't think so, but log out and in again
[12:15] <iamrohit7> ducasse: thanks.
[12:16] <zephyr28> cryptodan_mobile, I can view and modify the files in the terminal, just not the file manager
[12:21] <m4v3n> gm
[12:27] <filter85> good morning :D
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:37] <larryone> `systemctl disable apt-daily.timer`    doesn't seem to be disabling it
[12:38] <larryone> `systemctl status apt-daily.timer`   shows it active
[12:38] <larryone> any idea why it would still be running after the disable command?
[12:43] <filter85> kill the process?
[12:44] <ducasse> larryone: you need to stop it, disable just prevents loading on boot.
[12:44] <larryone> but it's active after reboot
[12:45] <larryone> hmm
[12:45] <ioria> if you want to disable at boot , try sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
[12:46] <ayogi> I have installed wireshark in my ubuntu 14.04 machine
[12:46] <ayogi> but its not detecting wifi interface
[12:46] <ayogi> can someone please help
[12:48] <larryone> ioria, ducasse, the apt-daily.service is dead, but the timer still lives on.
[12:49] <larryone> what started this was dpkg being locked when a provisioning script was running
[12:49] <larryone> it still happens the odd time
[12:52] <ioria> larryone, have you stopped it ?
[12:53] <larryone> stopped it
[12:54] <larryone> right, one more line to add to the packer build
[12:54] <ioria> larryone, stop, disable reboot and check
[12:56] <larryone> looks better =0)
[12:56] <larryone> thanks ioria
[12:56] <larryone> and ducasse
[12:56] <ioria> larryone, good
[12:56] <larryone> taking me longer than I expected to get used to this strange new systemd world
[12:56] <ioria> right
[12:57] <ioria> a debian developer quited for that
[13:02]  * DarkPsydeLord just landed.
[13:05] <someone235> Hi, when plugging my iPod I get "blk_update_request: critical medium error, dev sdb, sector 0"
[13:06] <someone235> and it doesn't show up in /dev/sdb1
[13:06] <someone235> someone knows what could be the cause and how can I fix it?
[13:07] <KodiakFi> Hello - is there an up to date comparison page somewhere that contrasts the differences between Ubuntu server (headless) and Debian server (headless)?  I'm a RHEL sysadmin who needs to deploy some ARM hosts using one of those two options?
[13:08] <ram_> hi
[13:08] <ram_> hi
[13:09] <ram_> hi
[13:09] <ram_> hi
[13:09] <Pici> ram_: yes, we see you.
[13:09] <ram_> k
[13:09] <ram_> i n00b
[13:10] <ram_> how to do one to one chat
[13:10] <Fuchs> ram_: /msg NameHere your message here
[13:10] <Fuchs> ram_: or  /query NameHere your message here
[13:10] <ram_> thanks
[13:10] <Fuchs> ram_: but note that this here is for support, not social chatter
[13:10] <_adb> ram: to whom would you like to speak? questions should go in the main channel, not to individuals
[13:10] <Fuchs> and support questions are way better asked in the main channel
[13:10] <ram_> k
[13:12] <_adb> KodiakFi: i don't have the comparison chart you're looking for. in my experience, however, they're pretty similar
[13:13] <parabool> hello
[13:13] <KodiakFi> Thanks _adb.  The one thing that put me on to Ubuntu server (16.04) was the more recent version of FirewallD.  I need 4+ for block/drop logging and Jessie is some really late version of 3x
[13:14] <KodiakFi> I was thinking about looking into a backport for Jessie but figured I'd at least ask around
[13:14] <parabool> i have an intel NUC skull canyon and my networking is faulty. it does work, but keeps disconnecting. disconnecting and connecting via the GUI does solve the prob for a minute or so
[13:14] <parabool> i just installed the latest ubuntu on it
[13:14] <parabool> any ideas?
[13:15] <KodiakFi> parabool - have you dug through dmesg and syslog yet?  Usually NetworkManager and/or NIC kernel drivers will log something when things are not working properly
[13:15] <parabool> KodiakFi: i get IPv6: link becomes ready in dmesg
[13:16] <KodiakFi> parabool are you intentionally using IPv6 or do you mean the IPv6 link comes on while IPv4 via DHCP does not?
[13:16] <KodiakFi> First thing I'd do immaterial to your problem is disable IPv6 in NetworkManager if you are not actually using it.
[13:16] <parabool> KodiakFi: i am not using ipv6, and ipv4 comes out and disconnects.
[13:17] <someone235> Someone here is familiar with SyncPOD?
[13:18] <parabool> KodiakFi: ipv6 has been disabled
[13:18] <parabool> both wireless/wired
[13:18] <parabool> the problem i have is also on wired/wireless
[13:18] <KodiakFi> I'm assuming DHCP.  Check out all of the possible logging locations.  I'm assuming other devices pull leases correctly from DHCP and work without interruption.  I'm also assuming you are using a wired connection.  You should probably familiarize yourself with the nmcli command suite - just as general advice.  Look at the lease file you receive and see if anything sticks out
[13:19] <KodiakFi> Hopefully only one interface at a time???  IE disable the wifi connection if you are wired, vice versa
[13:20] <parabool> KodiakFi: 1 at a time, and I am getting an IP. I dont lose that IP when the connection breaks down. Might not be the right word. I do still have an IP (ifconfig), just no internet connectivity
[13:21] <parabool> but i can ping my gateway (same as dhcp server)
[13:22] <KodiakFi> take wifi out of the mix until you have that working solidly parabool.  Check the dmesg and syslog / journal log files for anything actually being logged about your network issue.  I'm assuming you've isolated this to just the one NUC and no other devices are affected?
[13:22] <parabool> KodiakFi: home network works fine on other devices, yes
[13:23] <KodiakFi> parabool has the NUC ever worked properly?  Have you created a USB live image of any other distro to test with?  And check the logs check the logs check the logs :)
[13:24] <parabool> KodiakFi: i just got the NUC. I'm checking dmesg and it still shows me ipv6.. which is weird. i edited the wired connection and choose 'ignore' for ipv6
[13:24] <KodiakFi> fully disable IPv6 just for cleanliness
[13:24] <KodiakFi> reboot if you have to - that'll reset the output of dmesg
[13:25] <CrazyTB> I have a package that installed a file in /lib/udev/rules.d/. If I modify that file, will the modifications be replaced when the package is updated? Or will the update ask for confirmation?
[13:26] <KodiakFi> create a Fedora 24 workstation live USB image and boot from that, see if your networking is more solid.  Ubuntu and Fedora practically always use different versions of the Intel NIC driver, and often have completely different network-related configurations, so it's a good way to isolate the problem to the NUC hardware or the OS
[13:26] <KodiakFi> parabool ^^
[13:26] <Vugl> Hi all
[13:26] <Vugl> Please help with error please http://paste.ubuntu.com/23049436/
[13:27] <parabool> KodiakFi: good idea. I dont usually use Ubuntu, I needed a distro up and running quickly to get some work done
[13:28] <KodiakFi> parabool - given all the trouble I have at the bleeding edge of hardware, I keep both a Fedora and a Ubuntu live image on USB despite the baseline being RHEL 7.  I can usually reduce the number of possibilities for a problem simply by observing it under different distros and versions
[13:28] <KodiakFi> but there is usually something in the logs
[13:32] <Vugl> Help please! How to fix this: snmptrapd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnetsnmptrapd.so.30: undefined symbol: my_progname
[13:33] <Vugl> no info in google (((
[13:33] <KodiakFi> Vugl you probably are missing MIBs
[13:33] <KodiakFi> but good luck SNMP is a pain
[13:35] <Vugl> thank you! how fix it???
[13:35] <KodiakFi> Vugl:  that's where "good luck" came in
[13:37] <OerHeks> Vugl, step by step; what did you do, or install, or changed when you got this error?? and where did you see this error?
[13:38] <OerHeks> just a line with: fix it, does not work
[13:39] <Vugl> install zabbix, install snmpd and get this error
[13:40] <OerHeks> On what ubuntu version?
[13:42] <OerHeks> and what guide are you following? might help too
[13:43] <Vugl> Release:        14.04
[13:44] <networked> I need help configuring my network interfaces. One private wireless and one wired network that should be internet facing. If anyone can has ideas that would be great. Thanks.
[13:44] <Vugl> not guide
[13:44] <Vugl> apt-get zabbix-mysql-server
[13:44] <Vugl> apt-get-install snmpd
[13:45] <faqarh> helllo
[13:45] <Vugl> snmpd is ok
[13:45] <Vugl> but snmtrapsd is error
[13:45] <Vugl> Hi
[13:46] <faqarh> i have some silly oracle vmm error when trying to boot: http://imgur.com/a/akOqP
[13:47] <rafi> >>hello
[13:47] <faqarh> I doont even know how to google this error
[13:47] <jm_> Hola
[13:48] <DarkPsydeLord> holas
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !es
[13:48] <Vugl> OerHeks, one server snmtrapd work good. server whith zabbix snmptrapd error
[13:48] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[13:48] <freak> hi
[13:48] <networked> hello!
[13:48] <MonsieurBon> If I can't get glance to work with swift using juju, what would be the right channel to ask a question about that?
[13:49] <freak> ping /freak
[13:51] <m4v3n> hey
[13:52] <freak> exit
[13:52] <gvvg> Hi - I am trying to setup a service (I've never used systemd before) I created a autossh.service file in the /etc/systemd/user/ directory - https://paste.ee/p/98y9W - my intention is that this is executed upon user login and establishes and keeps open an ssh tunnel  - needless to say it isn't working - if I type service autossh start it prompts me for authentication - Failed to start...
[13:52] <gvvg> ...autossh.service: Unit autossh.service not found
[13:58] <gvvg> solved - sorry :)
[14:11] <mhoney> does the latest fdisk handle gpt partitioning?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> mhoney, use gdisk
[14:11] <barq> I get the same error as this guy http://askubuntu.com/questions/770747/hash-sum-mismatch-that-wont-go-away Is there any fix available?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> barq, switch to an up-to-date mirror
[14:12] <OerHeks> barq, post your error log, on paste.ubuntu.com  please
[14:13] <aliadil_> Hi
[14:14] <OerHeks> mirror might be syncing now, indeed
[14:15] <barq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23049562/
[14:16] <barq> cfhowlett: My mirror is not up to date? What mirror should I switch to then?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> barq, might be worth checking.
[14:17] <cfhowlett> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:17] <OerHeks> barq, or wait a minute and try again?
[14:18] <OerHeks> barq, or are you behind a proxy ?
[14:18] <barq> I've had this since I upgraded to 16.04 yesterday
[14:18] <barq> Yes, behind proxy
[14:19] <OerHeks> good article howto update with proxies, https://www.unixmen.com/45713-2/
[14:20] <OerHeks> or this answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/769361/ubuntu-16-04-lts-how-to-force-all-http-https-trafic-to-use-proxy
[14:21] <ioria> barq,  are you accessing internet with your phone ?
[14:21] <barq> No
[14:22] <barq> I use cntlm to configure the proxy
[14:26] <barq> OerHeks: Can I use that solution in parallel?
[14:28] <OerHeks> barq, that i don't know, i think you need to do some steps to get proxy working with apt.
[14:28] <kvmmm> what can I do if my USB drive doesn't show up? It was showing up before, and not it's not
[14:28] <OerHeks> as in; you have never had update working after setting your proxy, have you?
[14:29] <someone235> anyone knows a good cli tool for syncing ipod?
[14:29] <barq> It worked with 15.10 and previous ubuntu versions behind the proxy OerHeks
[14:29] <someone235> SyncPOD doesn't seem to work for me
[14:29] <barq> It stopped working after this update
[14:30] <OerHeks> kvmmm, check 'mount'  and var/log/dmesg when you plug in?
[14:30] <barq> ?
[14:30] <barq> plug in?
[14:37] <ioria> barq, http://askubuntu.com/questions/786334/proxy-problems-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-apt-1-2
[14:39] <barq> ioria: Sounds good, but I don't have apt.conf
[14:39] <ioria> barq, kame one ?
[14:40] <ioria> *make
[14:40] <barq> yup
[14:40] <barq> Looking good, but still running
[14:42] <barq> Isn't the bug fixed?
[14:43] <barq> It says fixed in 1.2
[14:43] <barq> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=810796
[14:45] <ioria> barq,  are you fully updated ?
[14:46] <barq> It worked apart from Err:38 http://mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar/ubuntu xenial/universe DEP-11 64x64 Icons                                                                                                                                             Undetermined Error
[14:46] <ioria> barq,  that's debian, btw
[14:46] <barq> But it solved the inital problem, thanks.
[14:46] <ioria> barq,  np
[14:48] <kvmmm> OerHeks, how do I check 'mount'  and var/log/dmesg ?
[14:48] <barq> I have apt 1.2.2
[14:48] <barq> why I am still getting the problem ?
[14:49] <ioria> barq,  try to access mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar/ubuntu
[14:50] <ioria> barq,  the ubuntu subfolder seems empty or down
[14:51] <barq> If I click on it it keeps adding subdirs http://mirrors.coopvgg.com.ar/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[14:52] <barq> And I can load from it
[14:52] <barq> I am using the same mirror
[14:58] <ceibal> holq?
[14:58] <ceibal> hola?
[14:58] <tonyt> after doing adduser someuser, anyonre know the command to set the newusers passwd?
[14:58] <ceibal> oi
[14:59] <dangernoodle> tonyt: passwd
[14:59] <tonyt> well im in root right now
[15:00] <tonyt> need to change the password for the newuser
[15:00] <dangernoodle> tonyt: passwd newuser
[15:01] <dangernoodle> tonyt: read passwd --help
[15:01] <tonyt> thanks ill try that out
[15:01] <OtterCoder> So, any way to get ubuntu to extend monitors instead of mirroring by default? I have a monitor that I frequently plug into my laptop, but it always comes up mirrored first.
[15:01] <dangernoodle> tonyt: should work, keep us posted
[15:03] <jwkowywjs> hey, are some of you using ubuntu touch?
[15:07] <OtterCoder> No thoughts on disabling default monitor mirroring?
[15:09] <ubuntu_xtimes_in> Hello around, I, a kind of experience cl user, want to install ubuntu, I am looking for a clean install (that is I do not like 100 demons on process table) on my kind of mocking hardware, a notebook, 4 cores, I use icewm, kate, rosegarden, "printer", "ppa". I plan this way: 1)download an image, 2)burn it to cd 3) attend the manual installation to /
[15:09] <ubuntu_xtimes_in>  partition 4) "apt-get install" the missing packages 5) setup misssing details: flash.
[15:09] <ubuntu_xtimes_in> mom
[15:09] <ubuntu_xtimes_in> Question to 1: which image do I choose? main ubuntu, lubuntu, minimal, server? to 1.1: How do I choose the right meta packages and which would be these?
[15:09] <ubuntu_xtimes_in> tia
[15:12] <swabhar> ubuntu_xtimes_in: what is the intended use?
[15:18] <jwitko> Hey all, running on ubuntu 16.04 I am have kernel panic issues with some software.  I have sysctl.conf set to "kernel.panic=3" and on the kernel panic screen it claims its rebooting after 3 seconds but it never does, it just hangs indefinitely.  Can anyone help me figure out how to force it to reboot?
[15:31] <ubuntu_xtimes_in> ?
[15:36] <badcom> Hi there!
[15:37] <badcom> I'm struggling with creating desktop shortcuts for a couple of Firefox profiles I created. Can anybody help?
[15:37] <EriC^^> badcom: did you create a .desktop file?
[15:37] <badcom> EriC^^: No
[15:38] <EriC^^> copy the firefox one from /usr/share/applications
[15:45] <ubuntu_xtimes_in> Or maybe I choose better debian? swabhar insults me from behind on pm. Maybe I go with my legitimate question out as a troll on distro fascism. Please do not correct my english.
[15:51] <OerHeks> ubuntu_xtimes_in, please report this in #ubuntu-ops
[15:51] <JamesB> Hello. I am on Ubuntu 14.04. Where do AppArmor errors log into in this version? I am seeing nothing in /var/log/syslog.
[15:52] <WiteStar> hi all
[15:52] <WiteStar> where doesw ubuntyu 15 hold its xorg files?
[15:53] <k1l_> WiteStar: ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10 are already end of life. better upgrade to 16.04
[15:53] <WiteStar> sorrym y bad1
[15:53] <WiteStar> 16
[15:53] <WiteStar> 16.04.1
[15:53] <delikurt> hi
[15:53] <OerHeks> WiteStar, there is no standard xorg.conf
[15:53] <OerHeks> and upgrading is wise, as 15.10 is EOL
[15:53] <WiteStar> ok cause i need to add multiple gfx cards
[15:53] <delikurt> any body is here hacker ?
[15:53] <k1l_> WiteStar: ok. what files do you need? the xorg.conf is not used since some years now. but you can create one if you need it
[15:53] <k1l_> delikurt: we dont support illegal stuff in here.
[15:54] <WiteStar> HEY! hacking is not illigal..... Breaking the law is :)
[15:54] <delikurt> TÜRK VARMI
[15:54] <WiteStar> but yes, in his comment.. i figured he menth the latter not the formor :-P
[15:54] <WiteStar> meant even
[15:54] <delikurt> türk var mı
[15:54] <k1l_> !minimal | ubuntu_xtimes_in
[15:54] <kisb> just take it as a precaution
[15:54] <WiteStar> ugh... ment
[15:54] <delikurt> hey guys
[15:54] <WiteStar> anyway
[15:55] <delikurt> ı need help
[15:55] <WiteStar> amdconfig --adapter=all --initial -f creates a new xorg files and mucks thing up
[15:55] <WiteStar> ruight now X is starting up loading only one gfx
[15:55] <delikurt> doesn t work sqlmap
[15:55] <WiteStar> how do i ass the second one
[15:55] <WiteStar> add
[15:55] <delikurt> doesn t work sqlmap
[15:55] <delikurt> what can ı do
[15:56] <delikurt> and body russian
[15:56] <k1l_> delikurt: ask a specific question and people will try to help. for other chat ask in ##chat
[15:57] <OerHeks> WiteStar, you might need to write your own xorg.conf, and asking where it is, and smiling you have the answer already .. great! good luck
[15:57] <DJones> delikurt: The main channel for support in russian language is #ubuntu-ru that might be a better place to ask if you need support in russian
[15:57] <OerHeks> WiteStar, hint: device0 device1
[15:57] <WiteStar> OerHeks: just chekcing if there was somethign better then that
[15:57] <gnome> Hello. My gnome-flashback needs polkit
[15:58] <WiteStar> OerHeks: i knwo i klooked at the xorg that the file created
[15:58] <gnome> Someone can please tell me how to do it?
[15:58] <OerHeks>  it shoudl work, 2 cards with the open radeon driver
[16:01] <docmur> Is it possible to install Ubuntu with XenServer and make the bridge required for XenServer, during the install?
[16:01] <WiteStar> ehre is what i get using the suggested xorg conf
[16:01] <WiteStar> http://pastebin.ca/3686501
[16:01] <delikurt> hey guys
[16:01] <delikurt> who is realy hacker ?
[16:01] <akik> docmur: xenserver installation is a full operating system
[16:02] <WiteStar> http://pastebin.ca/3686502 <-org
[16:03] <OerHeks> WiteStar, are you joking ?
[16:03] <OerHeks> fglrx ....
[16:03] <WiteStar> doesnt seeem to load fglrx but it does without the xorg file
[16:03] <OerHeks> a. you are not on 16.04 ...
[16:03] <WiteStar> root@MPC:/etc/X11# cat /etc/issue
[16:03] <WiteStar> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:04] <dax> fglrx is not supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
[16:04] <docmur> But xen can install on Ubuntu
[16:04] <OerHeks> fglrx is old, 16.04 does not use that driver anymore, it is radeon or AMDgpu now
[16:04] <OerHeks> so, i wonder, again ...
[16:04] <WiteStar> thsi is downloaded right from amd's driver
[16:04] <WiteStar> its propriatery not stock/open
[16:05] <dax> WiteStar: That's irrelevant. Ubuntu 16.04 does not support it. The amount of wrangling you'd need to do to make it work would make your system unsupportable.
[16:05] <WiteStar> dax: it starts up one card just fine..
[16:05] <k1l_> WiteStar: amd stopped making fglrx. there is now the open radeon and the amd_gpu
[16:05] <dax> AMD dropped support for it upstream, it does not work with current Xorg. Ubuntu uses current Xorg.
[16:05] <gebbione> WiteStar, if u need an alternative u can see at how i had a similar problem when upgrading to 16 from 14 here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333400
[16:06] <gebbione> ie i am using the radeon drivers now ok
[16:06] <WiteStar> yeh but open doesnt support somethign i need..
[16:06] <WiteStar> lol
[16:06] <gebbione> fglrx would not work and u would most likely have a vesa driver loaded
[16:06] <WiteStar> gebbione: ONE card works perfectly..
[16:06] <dax> WiteStar: I can keep rewording "fglrx on Ubuntu 16.04 is not supported here", if you'd like.
[16:06] <dax> but seriously, it is not supported.
[16:07] <WiteStar> dax: i get it.. ill blow up the world if i try...
[16:07] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[16:07] <WiteStar> dax: but the issue im having is not the SUPPROt part is adding a second card. i dont knwo the layout of these new filse!
[16:07] <gebbione> or u can see in #Xorg
[16:07] <gebbione> if they help u patch the old driver
[16:07] <gebbione> i tried with someone there but my system ended up being unstable
[16:07] <WiteStar> gebbione: the dirver WORKS !
[16:07] <dax> WiteStar: You're asking for support in here. You're using fglrx. You're using Ubuntu 16.04. We are not willing to offer support for systems using this combination of software.
[16:08] <WiteStar> gebbione: the dirver WORKS
[16:08] <WiteStar> im not asking for support for fglrx just how to add a second device
[16:08] <k1l_> WiteStar: you missunderstand. fglrx is not compatible with the xorg ubuntu ships. so either you changed the xorg version, dont use an ubuntu or using another driver.
[16:08] <WiteStar> k1l_: stock install.. look
[16:08] <WiteStar> http://pastebin.ca/3686510
[16:09] <gebbione> WiteStar, just telling my experience with radeon HD 5770
[16:09] <WiteStar> im telling you my experiance with aHD 6770  i got one card up but i dont know where to add the second one
[16:10] <WiteStar> and if it fails ill blow this up and install 15
[16:11] <gebbione> still looks like a question for #xorg
[16:11] <WiteStar> so its not a wierd ubuntu thing that you change hw the configs are done.. its an xorg thing?
[16:11] <gebbione> if u are using a xorg.conf and customer drivers i think so
[16:11] <OerHeks> Nopem, it is a xorg thing, your issue is linux global
[16:12] <WiteStar> okie...
[16:12] <WiteStar> (and yes its all stock except for the driver itself)
[16:13] <ducasse> WiteStar: why not simply use the drivers that are intended for 16.04?
[16:14] <WiteStar> ducasse: for me needs i need support of propriatery functionality
[16:14] <dax> then you have a choice between 1) using fglrx or 2) getting support in #ubuntu for anything graphics-related
[16:14] <ducasse> whatevsz: then try amdgpu-pro if your card supports it
[16:15] <ducasse> WiteStar: ^^
[16:15] <akik> so do i get this right, ubuntu has disabled the proprietary driver but you can use it if you compile it yourself?
[16:15] <WiteStar> dax: ok how do i add second radeon open source device to the xorg config
[16:15] <WiteStar> akik: i donno but i did have to relink version.h :-P
[16:16] <WiteStar> akik: and it compiled and it started up.. soo *shrug*
[16:16] <dax> akik: AMD stopped updating fglrx for new Xorg. Ubuntu uses new Xorg. Using fglrx would involve downgrading Xorg and probably other hilariously broken ideas.
[16:16] <WiteStar> soo.. pretend im using Open Soruce drivers and every one is happy. where the hell in the config do i add the second card?
[16:17] <tgm4883> WiteStar: while it might work, not even the vendor supports your configuration so how could you expect us to?
[16:17] <WiteStar> tgm4883: not asking for support asking for WHERE the hell do you add a second device in the new config structure
[16:18] <DArqueBishop> WiteStar: you're asking for help. That's asking for support.
[16:18] <tgm4883> WiteStar: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:18] <WiteStar> tgm4883: there is no xorg.conf file!
[16:18] <tgm4883> WiteStar: you have to create one
[16:18] <k1l_> WiteStar: then create one. as standard its not used
[16:18] <WiteStar> tgm4883: okthen... if thats the "correct" way of doing that ill geet on it.
[16:18] <WiteStar> so in standard.. you cant just add a second device?
[16:19] <tgm4883> WiteStar: yea that is the correct way of doing it. Having a /etc/X11/xorg.conf overrides the default since around 12.04 I think
[16:19] <OerHeks> WiteStar, why don't you use your 'old' one, and change driver name to radeon ??? http://pastebin.ca/3686502
[16:19] <WiteStar> http://pastebin.ca/3686525
[16:19] <WiteStar> for those taht dont bealve it started op!
[16:20] <WiteStar> up even
[16:20] <WiteStar> ok anyway im off to dig myself a grave.. thanks for the help
[16:20] <akik> WiteStar: you could start off with "Xorg :1 -configure" and see what it creates and go from there
[16:21] <DArqueBishop> Is it me, or does that output WiteStar pasted show it's NOT using fglrx at all?
[16:22] <WiteStar> *shrug* i donno all i know is the fglrx does load and i can actualy talk to the card.
[16:22] <WiteStar> i guess your right it does use vesa.. LOL
[16:22] <WiteStar> but still loadfs the module  soo..
[16:23] <WiteStar> ok.. well looks lik i gatat down grade.. fml
[16:23] <WiteStar> or do i just run vesa on both :-P haha
[16:23] <k1l_> it doesnt use fglrx
[16:24] <tgm4883> that's..... pretty funny
[16:24] <WiteStar> tgm4883: yep it is... well doesnt mater cause i dont really need X for my needs :-p
[16:24] <k1l_> so maybe the user just doesnt know, what he does there at all. and thinks any driver is fglrx. which isnt.
[16:25] <WiteStar> k1l_: i just need the cards initialized im using them for comutation not graphics
[16:25] <ioria> WiteStar, lspci -k | grep VGA -A 4 | grep driver  will tell you
[16:25] <WiteStar> tell me what/
[16:25] <WiteStar> what card is in the pc
[16:25] <ioria> the driver in use
[16:26] <WiteStar> hmm
[16:26] <WiteStar>  Kernel modules: radeon
[16:26] <k1l_> that is what 10 people told you.
[16:26]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[16:27] <WiteStar> *sigh* i hate being wrong :/
[16:27] <ioria> you're using the opensource driver
[16:27] <tgm4883> "sorry everyone for wasting your time arguing something you guys already knew"
[16:27] <WiteStar> sorry everyone i was wrong.
[16:28] <ioria> WiteStar, some one uses the driver beta provided by AMD
[16:29] <OerHeks> WiteStar, generate that xorg.conf and pastebin it? "Xorg :1 -configure"
[16:29] <OerHeks> ioria, not his cards, AFAIK
[16:29] <WiteStar> yeh they are to old
[16:29] <ioria> oh, ok
[16:30] <OerHeks> AMDgpu™ RX 480 RX 470 R9 Fury/Fury X/Nano R9 ~ M395X 390X M385 380X 360 290x 285 m270x 260x
[16:30] <WiteStar> im running HD 6770
[16:31] <WiteStar> so is this correcet then ?
[16:31] <WiteStar> http://pastebin.ca/3686552
[16:34] <ioria> i remember a command that autoconfigure a xorg.conf ... i think     sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but not sure
[16:34] <thefool> exit
[16:35] <gnome> My Ubuntu 16.04 GNOME-Flashback is having problems with polkit, may someone help me?
[16:36] <ioria> gnome, how did you install it ?
[16:36] <gnome> ioria: the gnome-flashback?
[16:36] <ioria> gnome, yup
[16:37] <gnome> ioria: apt
[16:37] <ioria> gnome, ok, but what exactly the command issued ?
[16:38] <gnome> ioria: apt install gnome-flashback
[16:39] <ioria> !info gnome-session-flashback
[16:41] <ioria> gnome which is the problem you have ?
[16:42] <gnome> ioria: When I open Bitmaks, I get
[16:42] <gnome> Title: no polkit agent running
[16:42] <gnome> Text: There is no polkit agent running and it is needed to run the Bitmask services.
[16:42] <gnome> Text: Take a look at the known issues page
[16:42] <gnome> Button: OK
[16:44] <ioria> gnome dpkg -l policykit-desktop-privileges
[16:44] <WiteStar> *sigH* off installing ubunty 15 :(
[16:44] <k1l_> WiteStar: dont do that
[16:44] <OerHeks> WiteStar, try 14.04.5 .. 15.10 is dead
[16:44] <k1l_> WiteStar: if you want to install an ubuntu lower than 16.04 then use 14.04
[16:46] <gnome> ioria: file or directory not found
[16:47] <ioria> gnome well, try to install  gnome-session-flashback
[16:49] <gnome> ioria: is already the newest version
[16:51] <ioria> gnome dpkg -l   policykit-1-gnome
[16:53] <gnome> ioria: file or directory not found
[16:53] <ioria> !info policykit-1-gnome
[16:54] <ioria> gnome  it's a dependency of gnome-session-flashback, you must have it
[16:54] <gnome> I indeed have
[16:54] <gnome> checked on apt
[16:55] <ioria> gnome   ps -A | grep polkit
[16:56] <gnome> ioria: polkitd
[16:56] <ioria> gnome   so it's running
[16:56] <pgunnars> Can some1 help me raise the hard memlock limit. Have *                -       memlock         unlimited in limits.conf and
[16:56] <gnome> ioria: only the daemon, not the agent
[16:56] <pgunnars> session required pam_limits.so in common-sessions*
[16:57]  * Agent gets pinged so many times
[16:57] <pgunnars> still ulimit -l is 64
[16:59] <ioria> gnome   dpkg -l libpolkit-agent-1-0
[17:02] <gnome> ioria: file or directory not found
[17:03] <ioria> gnome   try apt-cache policy  libpolkit-agent-1-0    and look at the Installed field
[17:03] <tgm4883> gnome: you shouldn't get that error from the command ioria gave you
[17:03] <OerHeks> good article about limits.conf > http://askubuntu.com/questions/594765/ubuntu-14-04-cant-get-past-4096-max-open-files-for-non-root-user   --- https://github.com/virtadpt/ubuntu-hardening/blob/master/16.04-lts/security/limits.conf
[17:04] <ioria> that's right
[17:06] <gnome> ioria: 0.105-14.1
[17:07] <ioria> gnome   so installed ....
[17:08] <ubuntu-mate> wtf?
[17:08] <keir666griswold> wtf what?
[17:09] <ubuntu-mate> keir666griswold, testing message)
[17:09] <keir666griswold> ubuntu-mate okay?
[17:11] <ubuntu-mate> keir666griswold, yep)
[17:12] <ioria> gnome   only that app gives you trouble ?
[17:13] <gnome> ioria: I have not tested any other, as I need this one first
[17:15] <soporte_> install asciiaquarium in ubuntu?
[17:16] <ioria> gnome   can you paste on paste.ubuntu.com   the output of  dpkg -l | grep  polkit
[17:18] <OerHeks> soporte_, its not in the repos, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-apple-osx-terminal-ascii-aquarium.html
[17:19] <gnome> ioria: it only says "dpkg-deb: error --info needs a .deb file name as argument"
[17:19] <ioria> gnome   something wrong with your dpkg :þ
[17:20] <ioria> gnome  simply  run  dpkg -l
[17:21] <ioria> gnome  do you see a list of pkgs
[17:22] <ubuntu-mate> aptitude search '~ipolkit'
[17:22] <ubuntu-mate> )
[17:24] <skweek> my audio is stuck on hdmi is there any way to kill the process and restart it?
[17:24] <skweek> I tried pulseaudio --kill
[17:24] <gnome> ioria: same message when using dpkg -I
[17:25] <ioria> gnome  not I , l (L)
[17:25] <gnome> ioria Ohhh!
[17:25] <ioria> gnome  l, lile lemonade
[17:25] <ioria> *like
[17:25] <gnome> ioria: so I was using the wrong letter all the time
[17:26] <ioria> yep
[17:26] <gnome> ioria: many packages, such list wow
[17:26] <ioria> gnome   can you paste on paste.ubuntu.com   the output of  dpkg -l | grep  polkit
[17:26] <gnome> ioria: yes
[17:28] <Guy1524> does anyone know if it will be possible to run unity 7 on mir?  unity 8 is literally the most ugly DE I have seen.
[17:28] <Guy1524> or is most of the stuff a placeholder
[17:28] <cynanymous> good day my friends
[17:29] <OerHeks> Guy1524, so where did you see unity8 ? on mir?
[17:29] <user212312> can't mount USB drive in Ubuntu, message saying "no permission to mount", but I can mount as root, why?
[17:29] <ursinus> good evening
[17:29] <cynanymous> Has anyone played with the Windows 10 WSL stuff?
[17:29] <ursinus> what timezones btw
[17:29] <gnome> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23050161/
[17:29] <OerHeks> !win10
[17:29] <OerHeks> cynanymous, ^^
[17:29] <Guy1524> OerHeks: some youtube video that was uploaded a month ago
[17:29] <user212312> I can't mount using Unity I mean
[17:29] <cynanymous> USA Central time for me. UTC-06:00
[17:30] <user212312> like, clicking in the USB icon in the left panel gives me a message saying I have no permission to mount
[17:30] <ioria> gnome   it's ok, i guess
[17:30] <Guy1524> OerHeks: specifically this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drTtd2_bcQc
[17:30] <cynanymous> yikes ok.
[17:31] <ioria> gnome   what DE are you using and which dm ?
[17:31] <ioria> gnome   sorry, just the display manager
[17:32] <Guy1524> do you guys agree with me that unity 8 is super ugly, especially compared to how awesome unity 7 looks
[17:32] <OerHeks> Guy1524, so it is still in development, https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-test-mir-and-unity-8-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[17:32] <Guy1524> what stage of development
[17:32] <Guy1524> is the theming subject to chance
[17:32] <Guy1524> *change
[17:32] <OerHeks> Guy1524, this is the ubuntu support channel, for the next release join #ubuntu+1
[17:32] <Guy1524> k
[17:33] <tgm4883> Guy1524: doesn't the themeing for unity 8 look just like unity 7?
[17:33] <Guy1524> nope, not at all
[17:33] <Guy1524> its trying to be more modern with sharp edges and rectangles
[17:34] <razor1101> It is? I haven't noticed much.
[17:34] <ioria> gnome   seems there is a limitation for Bitmask   https://leap.se/en/docs/client/known-issues
[17:34] <tgm4883> Guy1524: beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[17:34] <OerHeks> mir is not about the look at all, and all i read is you don't like the 'theme'
[17:35] <tgm4883> Guy1524: I'm looking at a screenshot of it now and I think it looks good
[17:35] <ubuntu-mate> ➊➍
[17:36] <Guy1524> tgm4883: which screenshot, can you provide a link?
[17:36] <tgm4883> Guy1524: https://www.howtoforge.com/images/how-to-test-mir-and-unity-8-on-ubuntu-16-04/big/pic_7.png
[17:36] <Guy1524> thx
[17:37] <Guy1524> do you know if the old unity 7 theme will work on unity 8?
[17:37] <ubuntu-mate> ⒽⒺⓁⓁⓄ
[17:37] <tgm4883> Guy1524: IDK
[17:38] <ioria> gnome   try to install policykit-1-gnome
[17:39] <gnome> ioria: limitation?
[17:39] <ioria> gnome   https://leap.se/en/docs/client/known-issues#no-polkit-agent-available-error
[17:42] <ioria> gnome   install policykit-1-gnome and reboot (log out, login should work)
[17:44] <Jrminot> I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue where I can login to user A via ssh but not console. I then proceeded to change the password of user A while conencted to SSH. I get 2 password prompts. One saying enter new password, then reconfirm, then enter new UNIX password, then reconfirm
[17:45] <Jrminot> That allows me to login to console with the new password but I need to figure out what the issue was/is so I can replicate it on another machine
[17:50] <unni> Using debmirror, unable to download the metafiles within 'dep11' and 'i18n' directories for xenial under the section 'multiverse'.
[17:50] <unni> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/multiverse/
[17:50] <unni> debmirror version: 1:2.25ubuntu2
[17:50] <unni> A similar issue has been reported in the the following bug, however it seems like a different issue (In the bug it's mentioned about 'main' section, however here the
[17:50] <unni> issue is with 'multiverse' section)
[17:50] <unni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debmirror/+bug/1565585
[17:51] <gnome> ioria: policykit-1-gnome is already installed
[17:51] <isaken> ubuntu 16.04 hw to upgrade 16.41
[17:51] <Guest89581> hi
[17:51] <gnome> isaken, there is no 16.41
[17:51] <k1l> isaken: install the updates. then it will become the 16.04.1
[17:52] <gnome> isaken, it would require the year to have 41 minths
[17:52] <isaken> mistyping hw do i upgrade,r there new features
[17:53] <Guest89581> exir
[17:53] <jatt> sudo apt -y dist-upgrade
[17:53] <k1l> isaken: it is a pointrelease. think of it as a service-pack from windows. if you run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" you will have all updates installed.
[17:54] <unni> @ubottu: As per that bug, version: 1:2.25ubuntu2 should fix this. However still having problem with multiverse section
[17:54] <isaken> Thanx @jatt
[17:54] <Guest89581> clear
[17:54] <MrrrRobot> Hello all
[17:55] <Guest89581> hello
[17:55] <MrrrRobot> ..
[17:56] <isaken> Drone`:
[17:56] <ioria> gnome  have you tried to start it manually ?  /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[17:58] <isaken> exit
[17:58] <isaken> quit
[17:58] <MrrrrRobot> Hey
[18:00] <unni> ubottu: As per that bug, version: 1:2.25ubuntu2 should fix this. However still having problem with multiverse section
[18:03] <k1l> unni: ubottu is just the channel  bot
[18:11] <Agent> wth
[18:13] <unni> k1l: Thanks
[18:13] <gnome> ioria: I give up
[18:13] <unni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23050274/plain/
[18:13] <ioria> gnome  not starting ?
[18:13] <gnome> ioria: fixing this change on graphical shell is horrible, troublesome, time expensive
[18:13] <gnome> ioria: death would be less worse
[18:14] <ioria> gnome  which is the output of /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 ?
[18:17] <gnome> ioria: no output, I don't want to fix this anymore. How to remove gnome properly?
[18:17] <ioria> gnome  oh, ok
[18:18] <jorvis> How do .so files get recognized?  One app is reporting them as missing, but I've installed the dependency which provides it yet it still shows up as missing:  http://pastie.org/10935242
[18:20] <parsnipM_> hi, trying to build emacs, but it keeps saying no gnutls, but i've installed it invarious ways.
[18:20] <trism> jorvis: is the binary 32bit or 64bit?
[18:21] <parsnipM_> gnutls-bin, libgnutls28, libgnutls28-dev, build-essentials, build-deps emacs.
[18:23] <trism> parsnipM_: it might help to pastebin the actual error since otherwise not really enough information
[18:24] <parsnipM_> trism: http://lpaste.net/176311
[18:25] <jorvis> trism:  I think it might be 32, I'm not sure.  Is there a way to tell?
[18:25] <trism> jorvis: run file on the binary
[18:25] <trism> jorvis: if it is 32bit you need the libxft2:i386 version instead
[18:25] <parsnipM_> http://lpaste.net/176312
[18:25] <unni> Issue with debmirror. Details here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23050274/plain/
[18:25] <jorvis> trism:  Ok, thanks
[18:27] <rob> server
[18:28] <parsnipM_> could it be a problem that ./configure is looking for a variable LIBGNUTLS?
[18:29] <MagnusDriver> Hi
[18:29] <MagnusDriver> How this works??
[18:31] <jatt> you have libgnutls-dev?
[18:32] <parsnipM_> jatt: yes
[18:33] <parsnipM_> wait, wtf, no.
[18:33] <Grorco> hello
[18:33] <parsnipM_> i installed it, but still same message
[18:34] <jatt> what does dpkg -l | grep libgnutls-dev say?
[18:34] <parsnipM_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gfBa5TOg/
[18:35] <Grorco> my network indicator doesn't show available wifi connections after logging back in to me profile, it displays like its connected to eth0 but it's connected to wifi
[18:35] <trism> parsnipM_: which version of emacs is this?
[18:35] <parsnipM_> trism: git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git
[18:35] <jatt> looks ok, you building emacs from source?
[18:35] <parsnipM_> yes
[18:36] <Grorco> any ideas on what to do, I have to wifi connections at my house and to switch back and forth between them I have to uncheck/check automatically connect and disable then reenable the wifi
[18:36] <parsnipM_> i guess i'll try nuking ubuntu and starting over.
[18:38] <anden> hello, i'm trying to fix an issue with compiz where it resets my refresh rate on every reboot. i've found a fix where you write a value with dconf but it applies to unity and i'm running lubuntu, how do i figure out how I need to modify the path?
[18:40] <anden> the fix command is as follows: dconf write /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/composite/refresh-rate "120"
[18:40] <anden> obviously, i've tried to replace "unity" with openbox, lxde and lxdm without success
[18:41] <k1l> anden: look at dconf-editor what profiles are offered there, if that works on lubuntu at all
[18:41] <anden> k1l: i did, there was nothing else there, i assume they're not created unless another value than default is saved
[18:42] <MrrrR0b0t> i don't think dconf-editor works in lubuntu from command line
[18:42] <deadmund> Trying to use get-iplayer to download this from bbc but it can't be found.  Anybody know why?  I can watch it in the browser but it doesn't show up with get-iplayer??
[18:42] <deadmund> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0421msk/olympic-water-polo-mens-preliminaries-saturday-daytime
[18:42] <k1l> i dont know if lubuntu is using docnf at all. because that is the settings tool for the gnome base (which unity is based on)
[18:43] <anden> MrrrR0b0t: it works to some extent, i was able to see the values i wrote myself
[18:43] <trism> parsnipM_: just cloned and tested, installing libgnutls-dev worked for me on 16.04 so not sure what the issue is for you
[18:43] <parsnipM_> i'm on ubuntu 14.04, starting over, thanks for trying. i've never had this problem before.
[18:43] <merpnderp> Anyone know which channel would be about windows ubuntu linux?
[18:43] <anden> k1l: there was a $HOME/.config/dconf/user file on my drive before i installed the dconf tools
[18:44] <merpnderp> Frick'n windows install skipped the bash init script, and so bash is now broken on my win 10 machine.
[18:44] <k1l> !ubuwin | merpnderp
[18:44] <chrislamp> hello all! I have a gnome plugin (system-monitor) that shows me graphically the RAM and CPU activity even around 30 seconds before. When I login again after the screensaver, I see that the CPU was working on full and then because of my action if became idle again. Am I hacked? Thank you very much
[18:46] <jatt> which process is pegging the cpu?
[18:46] <capum321> can't get to work usb sound. I was instructed to install pavucontrol but it didn't turn it on.
[18:48] <parsnipM_> dang it, same thing
[18:48] <capum321> usb sound?
[18:48] <deadmund> capum321: run pavucontrol
[18:48] <trism> parsnipM_: might be the gnutls is too old on 14.04 I'm taking a look
[18:49] <parsnipM_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uCEWtuzj/
[18:49] <deadmund> capum321: while player some sound (music) look at the output tab and switch the output to some other options in the list.
[18:50] <parsnipM_> trism: thank you
[18:51] <Asal> hi
[18:51] <Asal> khobin
[18:52] <parsnipM_> trism: does `echo $LIBGNUTLS' give you something?
[18:54] <trism> parsnipM_: well what it is actually doing is a pkg-config check: pkg-config --exists --print-errors "gnutls >= 2.12.2"; then checks that $? is 0
[18:55] <trism> parsnipM_: that passes on 14.04 for me, I'll still copying the repo to try the actual config but I imagine it will pass
[18:55] <parsnipM_> gnutls-cli (GnuTLS) 2.12.23
[18:57] <trism> parsnipM_: do you see anything weird in the config.log if you search for gnutls?
[19:00] <parsnipM_> trism: i haven't found for config.log.
[19:01] <trism> parsnipM_: it's generated in the source dir when you run ./configure
[19:01] <parsnipM_> output of `locate gnutls`: http://sprunge.us/SQNX
[19:03] <parsnipM_> contents of config.log: http://sprunge.us/XLXH
[19:04] <avionic> does simple scan have color/b&w options?
[19:04] <theflash_> hi, so I just ask a question here if I need support, right?
[19:05] <lietzmk> yes theflash_
[19:05] <trism> parsnipM_: hmm you don't seem to have pkg-config, sudo apt-get install pkg-config;
[19:06] <parsnipM_> trism: aha, now ./configure gets further, thank you sooooo much. can you help me understand why i happened to be missing it, why i usually might have had it, or not seen this issue before?
[19:06] <annihilator|2> !ot
[19:09] <theflash_> I changed my username 'flash' to 'theflash' by using usermod -l newUsername oldUsername and then usermod -d /home/newHomeDir -m newUsername to set the new home directory. But when I try to login now on the main screen of Ubuntu, it takes my password, goes black as if it's going to let me into the desktop, but then returns back to the login screen. I've searched and read that changing the username as I did when the home directory is encrypt
[19:09] <theflash_> ed causes issues such as this. How can I fix this?
[19:12] <trism> parsnipM_: it isn't installed by default, but it can get pulled in with other deps, gtk3 deps on it at least
[19:13] <trism> parsnipM_: libgtk-3-dev at least
[19:13] <parsnipM_> okay, i'll add it to my install script.
[19:13] <mustmodify> I'm using upstart with ubuntu 16.1. 'setuid' doesn't seem to do what I'm expecting. Am I using it correctly?
[19:13] <theflash_> anyone know how to help me?
[19:13] <OerHeks> theflash_, ouch, with encrypted home .. try to save your data and reinstall http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[19:14]  * setuid perks up
[19:14] <mustmodify> https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/ba42c621a3ddcadb7a41eba78fea2279
[19:14] <theflash_> I'm not worried about data, I'm more interested in learning how to fix it.
[19:14] <parsnipM_> i've used build-dep emacs, and configure still asks about libtinfo, etc. Will i have to add these named, or is there any other thing like build-dep that will install all the image libraries, etc.?
[19:14] <minimec> theflash_: is this on 14.04 or 16.04?
[19:14] <theflash_> 14.04
[19:16] <theflash_> changing username when home is encrypted is a bad idea?
[19:16] <minimec> theflash_: can you then try to switch to a console with ctrl+alt+F1 snd login? Then 'mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.back'. Switch back to X with +F7. Try to login.
[19:17] <minimec> theflash_: switch back to X with alt+f7 ... ;)
[19:17] <theflash_> ok i'll try that
[19:17] <capum321> apparently my notebook can't sleep. Power Manager - GDBus.Error:org.freedestkop.DBus.ERror.NoReply: - Method call timed out
[19:18] <capum321> and prompt for user password
[19:18] <trism> parsnipM_: oh I think I see the issue, you need to build-dep on the emacs versioned package, the emacs metapackage doesn't have any of the build deps, it is just an empty package that depends on the latest version of emacs
[19:18] <trism> parsnipM_: so you would want: sudo apt-get build-dep emacs24; or something
[19:19] <parsnipM_> oh, i thought emacs was an alias for emacs24
[19:20] <parsnipM_> hmm, i think that did something different.
[19:22] <theflash_> @minimec There's only .ecryptfs and .Private in the directory and a readme file. 'Xauthority': No such file or directory.
[19:25] <jatt> parsnipM_: image libraries you need to install independently, but the emacs configure will just detect those
[19:25] <jatt> if not available should also be possible to build
[19:25] <minimec> theflash_: Oh. I see. So your user directory is encrypted... Hmm... I have no experience with that kind of encryption. I normally encrypt the whole drive, so I unlock on boot and can then use the system as usual...
[19:26] <parsnipM_> jatt: right, but then i realized i'm on a remote and i would almost never use X, so i did ./configure --with-x-toolkit=no, but i think the build-dep emacs24 installed all the dependencies anyways, which is fine, because i want to simplify that step.
[19:26] <theflash_> When ubuntu first installed, it asked me if I wanted to encrypt the home directory. I chose yes, but then I wanted to change the username. I guess those two things don't mix well.
[19:27] <theflash_> so should I delete the user instead and make a new one?
[19:27] <minimec> theflash_: There might be a solution, but in this specific case I am not your man... ;)
[19:27] <insliak> yo
[19:28] <theflash_> No problem.
[19:28] <theflash_> I'll keep searching.
[19:28] <annihilator> what is the command to start gnome from terminal?
[19:28] <k1l> annihilator: start the lightdm or gdm
[19:29] <annihilator> thats what im asking how to do lol
[19:29] <jatt> startx
[19:29] <k1l> sudo service lightdm start
[19:29] <k1l> jatt: no. dont use startx on ubuntu
[19:30] <annihilator> plus that dont work as i dont have it installed
[19:30] <k1l> annihilator: ?
[19:30] <annihilator> i have lxde and installing gnome know but forgot gnome lol
[19:30] <annihilator> startx does not work for me as i dont have xint or xorg installed
[19:30] <jatt> 😖
[19:30] <k1l> annihilator: then log out and choose gnome on the login screen. and startx is the wrong answer as i already said
[19:30] <LoRez> has partman-auto-raid/recipe changed between trusty and xenial?  the install is complaining that I'm specifying 5 devices instead of the two that's in the raid
[19:31] <jatt> you don't have xorg but want to start gnome?
[19:31] <annihilator> i use startlxde and startkdm as i have kde and lxde installed
[19:31] <capum321> and prompt for user password
[19:31] <k1l> annihilator: what ubuntu is that at all?
[19:32] <annihilator> i have a min install of 16.04
[19:32] <annihilator> i had found it was easier to switch between DE from terminal than login screen for me anyways
[19:32] <capum321> apparently my notebook can't sleep. Power Manager - GDBus.Error:org.freedestkop.DBus.ERror.NoReply: - Method call timed out.   At same time, when I click mouse it lighten screen and there is a prompt for user authentication
[19:39] <speaker1234> I could some help figuring out how to set up raid and LVM with a SSD cache
[19:39] <speaker1234> first question is do I want to boot from LVM or do I want to have a separate boot partition?
[19:40] <speaker1234>  2nd question is if I'm setting up the spinning rust as a mirrored raid, is there any problem with making one big array?
[19:40] <marty__> hello
[19:44] <minimec> capum321: There often are some specific workarounds for a given laptop model to enable suspend. I would search the net with keywords like '<YourLaptop> suspend ubuntu'. Often you have to disable Wifi before going into suspend mode or similar...
[19:44] <k1l> most times the issue is that the module is loaded while the hardware is not ready yet.
[19:46] <capum321> minimec, my laptop is a local brand, not north american.
[19:46] <skjones> is anyone still have wireless connection probs with 16.04.1 or was that solved?
[19:46] <k1l> skjones: depends on exact hardware used
[19:47] <minimec> capum321: Well try it. What is the brand name?
[19:47] <skjones> thanks k1l
[19:48] <capum321> minimec  ITAUTEC w7650
[19:48] <capum321> i searched
[19:50] <minimec> capum321: Can you once try to 'turn off' wifi before going in to suspend mode? Wifi is a common 'suspend problem'
[19:51] <capum321> actually, wifi is off, i am all the time on ethernet
[19:51] <minimec> capum321: Oh... ok.
[19:53] <minimec> capum321: A link I can give you is 'understanding suspend' from the ubuntu wiki. There are some things described there, that you could try... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend
[19:55] <mustmodify> I'm using upstart with ubuntu 16.1. 'setuid' doesn't seem to do what I'm expecting. Am I using it correctly?
[19:55] <mustmodify> https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/ba42c621a3ddcadb7a41eba78fea2279
[19:55] <teward> mustmodify: 16.10 in #ubuntu+1 only please
[19:55] <volund> okay guys I have an oddball issue here. I'm using 16.04. My video card is an ASUS Strix Nvidia GTX 980 Ti. Whenever I try to boot Ubuntu (or the Ubuntu installer) I have to edit the GRUB2 launch settings to include 'nomodeset' or all I get is an empty screen. What must I do to get graphics behaving properly? I've already tried updating the system software.
[19:56] <mustmodify> teward: sorry, please explain?
[19:56] <Guest63161> Hello, I am wondering if it is possible to launch any software from command line and specifying a different keyboard layout like I would do system-wide temporarily with setxkbmap, so that the software I want to run will use that layout instead of the system default ?
[19:56] <teward> !16.10 | mustmodify
[19:57] <teward> mustmodify: Ubuntu 16.10 is not released yet, and we only provide support for it in the #ubuntu+1 channel, so you will have to go there
[19:58] <rypervenche> Guest63161: No, but you can change your keyboard layout on a window and have it remember which layout is used for that window.
[19:59] <Guest63161> rypervenche: okay thanks !
[19:59] <rypervenche> Guest63161: I don't remember how to do it though, it may be Desktop environtment specific.
[19:59] <Guest63161> yes it is
[19:59] <Guest63161> rypervenche: since I use i3 i'll have a look in their doc
[20:03] <airabella23> hi, what software do I need to use a Java based program using Unbuntu 16.4?
[20:05] <volund> alrighty I'm switching to the Nvidia drivers instead of Nouveau, will hope this solves my issue. BBIAB if it does not
[20:05] <OerHeks> airabella23, install openjdk-8 ?
[20:05] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-8-jre
[20:05] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[20:06] <teward> mustmodify: now that we know you're on 16.04 (refer to other channel logs), you may wish to read the man page for setuid to see if it does what you think it does - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man1/setuid.1.html
[20:07] <teward> oops i mistyped
[20:08] <teward> mustmodify: 16.04 is SystemD not upstart, why you're using upstart I don't know. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#setuid is relevant though
[20:08]  * setuid does what he thinks he does
[20:15] <jatt> some indicators still use upstart
[20:17] <tgm4883> jatt: which ones?
[20:18] <jatt> I forgot, just remove upstart apt will tell you reverse dependencies I think.
[20:18] <jatt> not needed at all in 16.04
[20:21] <mustmodify> teward: I understand upstart and had it working on my machine before the hard drive crashed. Now I'm just trying to assemble the pieces as quickly as possible.
[20:22] <k1l> mustmodify: ubuntu uses systemd. so you need to make systemd init scripts now.
[20:22] <mustmodify> Well now it's freaking working.
[20:23] <tgm4883> lol
[20:23] <mustmodify> so ... I don't know. It wasn't working. Now it is.
[20:24] <mustmodify> k1l: I'm sorry, that just doesn't seem like enough justification when installing upstart seems to have automagically cleaned up systemD.
[20:24] <k1l> mustmodify: ok. that is some information that would make sense to tell the supporters at beginning.
[20:25] <tgm4883> unity-greeter depends on upstart still....
[20:25] <mustmodify> I was thinking that using the right version number might also help.
[20:25] <mustmodify> :P
[20:27] <danst> hi, I'm making an "ubuntu remix" livecd and have encountered a strange problem – I have edited /etc/network/interfaces on chroot, packed it to squashfs and generated iso image
[20:27] <danst> but while testing the image, I get default /etc/network/interfaces file, not the one I've modified
[20:28] <danst> how is that even possible
[20:30] <OerHeks> that file is populated by the networkmanager, danst.
[20:30] <airabella23> tward: thank you I will try that.
[20:30] <danst> oh god
[20:30] <danst> I want to have eth0 dhcp
[20:30] <danst> on a livecd
[20:31] <danst> should I uninstall networkmanager then?
[20:31] <airabella23> ubotto: thank you I will try it out
[20:31] <OerHeks> uninstall, or disable .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[20:32] <OerHeks> but carefull, new 'predictable interface naming' might give an other device name than eth0
[20:32] <OerHeks> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[20:40] <anden> since the latest few ubuntu versions, the SSH public key fingerprint is displayed in a different format when i'm connecting to a server, i've memorized the valid fingerprint in the old format, how do i make it display it that way?
[20:42] <gebbione> i m happy to see that tracker miner is not sucking blood away from my ram anymore in 16.04
[20:42] <gebbione> but i have cairo dock stucj
[20:42] <gebbione> it wont restart
[20:42] <gebbione> any thoughts
[20:43] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: In a terminal, you can do: killall -9 cairo-dock => after that, try giving it a restart...
[20:45] <gebbione> mhh never happened before
[20:45] <gebbione> i wonder why it got stuck
[20:46] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: Look through the logs
[20:46] <pier> ciao per avere assistenza
[20:46] <pier> grazie
[20:46] <EriC^^> !it | pier
[20:47] <gebbione> YankDownUnder,  is there something i can do to translate those timestamps in logs ... [ 35392.616] (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0...
[20:48] <gebbione> [34803.815222] [drm:cypress_dpm_set_power_state [radeon]] *ERROR* rv770_restrict_performance_levels_before_switch failed
[20:51] <gebbione> btw i m not sure it is me but feels like 16.4 uses way less ram than 14
[20:53] <LazyAngel>  Hi, 'apt-key list' gives me 'gpg: mpi too large for this implementation...' any idea how to solve it?
[20:55] <danst> OerHeks: thank you, uninstalling solved the problem
[20:55] <OerHeks> danst, have fun
[20:57] <Titas> Hello, anybody here?
[20:57] <k1l> Titas: just ask
[20:57] <OerHeks> LazyAngel, give the full error please on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:58] <YankDownUnder> gebbione: Mostly, use your common sense - you can also use "grep" to look for "cairo-dock" - however, I can state that in the past, I've had issues with "cairo-dock" having hissy fits with compositing and graphics drivers...so, you can also test out starting "cairo-dock" with safe settings...you can also dig through stuff at "cairo-dock"'s home: http://glx-dock.org/
[21:00] <LazyAngel> OerHeks: https://paste.linux.community/view/43a89858
[21:01] <Titas> Hello, I have a problem, I need to move some files to other directory and it sais, that "(some directory) is not a directory"
[21:01] <LazyAngel> OerHeks: (paste.ubuntu.com was down for mainenance)
[21:02] <_adb> Titas: the exact command and error message may be helpful... this may seem obvious, but have you  verified that the destination exists?
[21:03] <_adb> (and is a directory)
[21:03] <Titas> mv Rocket.* Assembly-CSharp.dll unturned/Unturned_Headless_Data/Managed/.
[21:04] <Titas> And I know that directory exists
[21:04] <OerHeks> LazyAngel, seems like broken, on what linux version is this ?
[21:04] <Titas> I can give you ftp access
[21:04] <_adb> Titas: do not want
[21:05] <lordcirth> Titas, are you sure it's not, say, a symlink to a directory?
[21:05] <_adb> Titas: do you want to move all files that begin with "Rocket." and the file "Assembly-CSharp.dll and everything in the directory "unturned" into the directory "Unturned_Headless_Data/Managed/"?
[21:06] <Titas> I want to move all files that begin with "Rocket." and the file "Assembly-CSharp.dll" into the directory "Unturned_Headless_Data/Managed/"
[21:07] <k1l> Titas: what is the fullpath of that folder?
[21:07] <curlyears> herro
[21:07] <Titas> home/titas/RCK, and I want to move files to home/titas/Unturned/Unturned_Headless_Data/Managed/
[21:08] <curlyears> how do I delete all partitions on an HDD which has been added to the system since installation?
[21:08] <k1l> Titas: ok, that doesnt work like you do it.
[21:08] <Titas> So how to do it?
[21:09] <tgm4883> plus case matters
[21:09] <k1l> Titas: since the "Unturned_Headless_Data/Managed/" folders start in your users home and not in the folder you have those files in it, you need to tell the shell where it starts. make a "~/" in front of it
[21:09] <Titas> When I do ~, shell replace it with "root"
[21:09] <k1l> ~ means "/home/username/". so it is ~/Unturned/Unturned_Headless_Data/Managed/
[21:09] <k1l> Titas: and dont use sudo
[21:10] <k1l> or dont be logged in as root
[21:10] <Titas> oh, ok
[21:10] <tgm4883> Also, unturned != Unturned
[21:10] <Titas> But folder is locked somehow on root
[21:10] <k1l> and case sensitivity matters, too
[21:14] <Titas> How to unlock root's folder?
[21:14] <k1l> Titas: unlock? why do you need root folder? you are working in the users home folder, there the user got all permiissions
[21:15] <LazyAngel> OerHeks: I copied the /etc/apt/trusted.gpg key from another system. Seems like it was broken
[21:17] <bipul> Hi,I would like to know about users in ubuntu. Since we know their is a system user created during installation of ubuntu to run system process and users created during installation of new packages. So may i know the range of id for this two system users?
[21:18] <bipul> Static system user during installation of Ubuntu OS. Dynamic during installation of packages. Do i know the range at which this static user and dynamic user created in ubuntu?
[21:19] <pavlos> users start at 1000 and go up
[21:19] <Titas> k1l: look https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7NVBP0-oNQAUmMzTXAxNDVES2c&usp=sharing
[21:19] <bipul> pavlos, Those are normal user.
[21:20] <jatt> root is 0
[21:20] <lordcirth> http://www.linfo.org/uid.html
[21:20] <bipul> Yes root is 0. How about system users?
[21:20] <jatt> what is a system user?
[21:20] <tgm4883> Titas: what is your username?
[21:20] <Titas> titas
[21:20] <bipul> Does Debian/Ubuntu has this concept of Static and Dynamic user for System user?
[21:20] <k1l> Titas: so you moved or unpacked it with sudo/root into your home. so do use "chown" that folders and files back to your users
[21:21] <jatt> nope
[21:21] <tgm4883> Titas: you can fix that by running "sudo chown -R titas:titas ~/Unturned"
[21:21] <tgm4883> Titas: that will change the user and group of that directory and everything under it
[21:21] <Titas> thanks tgm4883, k1l
[21:21] <tgm4883> Titas: then don't just randomly use sudo everywhere
[21:23] <_adb> bipul: i don't understand your question
[21:24] <jatt> maybe he means user with sudo privileges. or something.
[21:25] <bipul> _adb, Actually I was making a note of Ubuntu Administration. So i was keenly interested to know, the range of system user id.
[21:26] <bipul> Because there are certain range of system id created during installation of OS. And some user id created during installation of packages.
[21:26] <_adb> bipul: i'm still confused. typically "system" users have a  uid < 1000 and "normal" users have uids starting at 1000.
[21:26] <akik> bipul: system ids are from 100 to 999 (/etc/adduser.conf)
[21:27] <k1l> bipul: users start at 1000, system users are <1000
[21:27] <bipul> akik,Do you mean this id range created during installation of Ubuntu  (100 to 999 )
[21:27] <akik> bipul: the ids created during the install are also less than 100
[21:28] <bipul> oh ok thank you very much akik :)
[21:28] <bipul> thank you _adb k1l and all
[21:29] <jpX> would anyone happen to know why I can't connect to a local IP from a browser on my desktop? Other machines worked fine, so I'm assuming it's some sort of setting on this machine. I've tried doing my own research but I'm not really sure what exactly to search for. Thanks
[21:29] <lordcirth> jpX, port 80?  What browser?
[21:31] <jpX> lordcirth: I've tried in both firefox and chromium. I'm trying to connect to my phone's IP through a specified port (333), to remotely use my messages app
[21:31] <curlyears> How can I delete all partitions from an HDD attached to the system after the system is installed?
[21:31] <lordcirth> curlyears, gparted
[21:31] <lordcirth> jpX, exactly what happens?
[21:32] <Titas> I'm getting error "Permission Denied" starting this script http://pastebin.com/fJDHnxWj
[21:32] <curlyears> lordcirth:   gparted will run on an installed system?  I thought I had been told it would only run under the installer?
[21:32] <jpX> lordcirth, "IP took too long to respond"
[21:33] <lordcirth> curlyears, gparted is a standard system utility.
[21:33] <curlyears> thanks, lordcirth
[21:33] <Flannel> curlyears: Don't use gparted on mounted drives, make sure you unmount them first.  But if you're trying to blow away all of the partitions, it sounds like it's going to be unmounted anywya.
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  backup first, before you mess with partitions
[21:34] <lordcirth> jpX, you could try increasing firefox's timeout in about:config
[21:34] <Delta706> can anyone recommend a reminder application, other than kalarm?
[21:35] <Titas> I'm getting error "Permission Denied" starting this script http://pastebin.com/fJDHnxWj
[21:35] <Titas> Pls help
[21:35] <jpX> lordcirth, that could work, but I think it's an issue of the network config or something on this computer. From my laptop I can access it just fine, almost instantly
[21:35] <curlyears> MonkeyDust:   newly installed system, wouldn't lose much if I screwed up, but thanks for the warning
[21:36] <lordcirth> Titas, is the script marked executable?
[21:36] <Titas> lordcirth, How I need to mark it executable?
[21:36] <Delta706> Titas: do "man chmod"
[21:38] <Titas> Delta706 Still don't get it...
[21:39] <lordcirth> Titas, you can use /exec <Enter> to search for "exec" in the manual page
[21:41] <pavlos> does steamcd_home exist? (line 8)
[21:41] <lordcirth> pavlos, pretty sure it's just that the script isn't executable.  Everyone makes that mistake.
[21:42] <pavlos> can he make it a 755?
[21:43] <lordcirth> pavlos, yes, once he figures out chmod
[21:44] <filip__> hi im new how to make text bigger ubuntu mate 16.04?
[21:44] <jpX> :/
[21:44] <pavlos> on a term, press control shift +, control - to reduce
[21:46] <pavlos> Titas, can you give us a ls -l start.sh
[21:46] <Titas> I solve it, but I have another problem http://prntscr.com/c50nlh
[21:47] <Titas> solved*
[21:49] <foul_owl> Hi folks. If I'm trying to set up a DNS server on my local network to do lookups for .lan addresses, am I setting up an authoritative or resursive dns server?
[21:50] <Seveas> foul_owl: you're setting up a disaster to come. Don't invent your own tld.
[21:50] <lordcirth> Titas, in future, pastebin your command line, don't screenshot it...
[21:51] <foul_owl> What tld should I use internally?
[21:51] <foul_owl> I know .local is reserved
[21:51] <Seveas> foul_owl: a subdomain of your public domain.
[21:51] <Titas> So lordcirth can you help me?
[21:52] <foul_owl> The internet will never see what I name my servers on my local network?
[21:52] <lordcirth> Titas, googling that error message gets this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2920416/configure-bin-shm-bad-interpreter
[21:52] <Seveas> but the internet can decide that .lan is a real tld
[21:52] <foul_owl> That makes sense
[21:52] <foul_owl> Happy to use a domain that I own
[21:53] <foul_owl> I never considered that. I just figured it was a good practice to use .lan to indicate to myself that it's local
[21:53] <Seveas> that's 1990's era good practice, these days it's considered quite bad
[21:53] <foul_owl> Good to know :)
[21:53] <foul_owl> Thank you
[21:54] <Seveas> with that out of the way: you're building an authoritative server
[21:54] <foul_owl> Gotcha :)
[21:54] <Seveas> though you're probably best off building an authoritative/recursive combo so you can use it for your normal queries too
[21:54] <Seveas> otherwise you'll need to set up 2 nameservers and get delegation for your internal domains working properly
[21:55] <foul_owl> That makes sense
[21:55] <foul_owl> Would rather just use one for all lookups
[21:55] <foul_owl> I'm using powerdns since it has a pretty web interface (poweradmin)
[21:55] <Seveas> that's a problem: powerdns has strictly split the recursive and authoritative parts
[21:56] <foul_owl> It seems like it's possible https://doc.powerdns.com/md/authoritative/recursion/
[21:56] <foul_owl> Although they appear to frown upon it
[21:57] <Neon10> buffer +1
[21:57] <Seveas> ooh, but at least they allow it now. Practicality conquers useless purity once more!
[21:57] <foul_owl> Haha
[21:57] <foul_owl> Ok, so I want to set the recursor to something like 8.8.8.8 ?
[21:57] <kristenbb> hello, I lost all my groups (including sudo group) by doing a wrong command, I'm in a live cd, how can I add it back ?
[21:58] <Seveas> dunno, I never actually used powerdns recursor, only the auth server.
[21:58] <foul_owl> Gotcha
[21:58] <Seveas> I use bind for the authoritative/recursive combos
[21:58] <foul_owl> Is there a nice gui or api for bind?
[21:59] <Seveas> yes, vim :D
[21:59] <foul_owl> Hehe
[21:59] <foul_owl> API though?
[21:59] <Seveas> config files and zone files go in version control, not in apis and guis
[21:59] <Seveas> I want to be able to roll back my screwups quickly
[22:00] <foul_owl> Makes sense
[22:00] <foul_owl> I want the ability to programatically add records, but I suppose I can do that with ssh + sed
[22:00] <Seveas> or generate zonefiles from a database using some sort of templating system (I use django, but only because all server data lives in a django app)
[22:01] <foul_owl> I have a bash script that creates a vm given a hostname on one of my virtual server hosts on my network. I want to create a local dns record for that server programatically also
[22:01] <jpX> alright, so anyone know any reasons why I wouldn't be able to connect to a port on a device on my network? I only timeout on my linux desktop, but every other machine on my network has no problem.
[22:01] <foul_owl> Ok i have some ideas
[22:01] <foul_owl> Thanks again! :)
[22:01] <Seveas> you're welcome :)
[22:02] <Flannel> kristenbb: in the future, use useradd instead of adduser.  But here's a quick and easy way from a liveCD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Add_User_to_a_Group  (in the future, you can also drop to the recovery console to do it, without the liveCD, and that's a couple fewer steps)
[22:03] <CyberDems> is there any way to start udev with systemd on a system without initramfs ?
[22:03] <Flannel> kristenbb: er, use adduser instead of useradd.
[22:04] <CyberDems> i've gotten ubuntu to startup on an arm tablet but don't know how to adapt the ubuntu initramfs for that device so I would prefer to run udev in the userspace
[22:04] <kristenbb> Flannel: ok, thanks; i didnt manage to go to the recovery console, i tried pressing left shift but didnt work
[22:05] <Titas> Who can help me in pm?
[22:05] <Flannel> kristenbb: No worries.  You can do it in a LiveCD too.
[22:07] <noche_> Hello
[22:08] <noche_> Speak spanish?
[22:08] <k1l> !es | noche_
[22:08] <noche_> Thank
[22:10] <Titas> Who can help me personally??
[22:11] <Seveas> Titas: I can send you my consultency rates
[22:11] <Seveas> Or you could ask your question in here
[22:12] <elhoir> Seveas, :)
[22:13] <Seveas> !pm | Titas
[22:14] <Seveas> unless you really want to pay my consultancy rates (starting at €250/hour)
[22:14] <Titas> Can anyone help me with step 4? https://devdox.net/how-to-setup-unturned-server-on-linux/
[22:14] <Titas> I think I f**ked up directoryies
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> Titas  mind the language
[22:14] <Titas> titas@ubuntu:~/Unturned$ ./start.sh server1
[22:14] <Titas> Steam: NOT FOUND
[22:14] <Titas> ./start.sh: line 32: cd: ./unturned: No such file or directory
[22:14] <Titas> ./start.sh: line 36: mono: command not found
[22:14] <Titas> Sorry MonkeyDust, I'm just very tired, and angry..
[22:15] <Seveas> Titas: then get some sleep and try again tomorrow. Fresh heads work better for troubleshooting.
[22:16] <Titas> Sebeas, I'm just want to fix start.sh file, and then I will go sleep.
[22:17] <Seveas> your problem is not the start.sh. You messed something up in an earlier step, causing it to not find its things. I don't know how this steam junk works, so I can't even guess at what it is. Go sleep now, try again tomorrow when you're less angry, and maybe someone is around in here who knows steam.
[22:18] <Titas> Ok, Seveas.. Goodbye ;)
[22:21] <pavlos> Titas, line 32 cd UNTURNED_HOME fails
[22:23] <jlf> hello.. output to the console of my xenial vm is painfully slow, like 9600 baud or something.. anyone know where to find the relevant config?
[22:23] <pavlos> Titas, if mono is some binary executable, it is better to refer to it with its absolute path, eg. /usr/local/bin/mono (line 36)
[22:27] <WiteStar> hi all, any one know if i can downgrade willy's kernel to 3.x ?
[22:27] <OerHeks> WiteStar, wily is dead, eol.
[22:27] <WiteStar> OerHeks: yeh back to my poroblem with old hardware..
[22:28] <WiteStar> OerHeks: i cnat go forward must go back :(
[22:28] <OerHeks> You've been told to use 14.04 instead.
[22:28] <WiteStar> krap is 14 the long support one?
[22:28] <k1l> WiteStar: wily is EOL (like we told you serveral times already). you need to use a 14.04 where you can run a 3.13 kernel
[22:28] <Seveas> WiteStar: it is.
[22:28] <WiteStar> SOB!!!!
[22:28] <OerHeks> yes, 2019
[22:28] <WiteStar> anywya i can downgrade to 14 without reinstalling :(
[22:28] <Seveas> no
[22:28] <k1l> no
[22:28] <WiteStar> anyway i can reinstall it from shell :-P
[22:29] <k1l> (i really dont know why you make things that complicated instead of listening to the advice you get)
[22:29] <jlf> is there some other channel that would be more appropriate for my question?
[22:29] <WiteStar> k1l: the box is on the other side of town :(
[22:29] <WiteStar> k1l: lOl i know its a long shot but you never know...
[22:29] <Seveas> WiteStar: well, get walking :)
[22:30] <WiteStar> i left rom boot on..
[22:30] <Seveas> jlf: this channel is appropriate, but your question is lacking any useful info, such as host of, vm solution....
[22:30] <Seveas> host os*
[22:30] <WiteStar> i wonder if i can kill the drive.. get it to reboot.. then use some sort of answer file to install the dam thing
[22:31] <OerHeks> interesting problem, heard this often here
[22:31] <Seveas> WiteStar: if pxe booting is set up in that environment, you can use the netboot installer, which does support preseeding answers.
[22:32] <WiteStar> just gatta make sure i have it right
[22:32] <WiteStar> ill only get one shot at it :/
[22:32] <WiteStar> where does it read the answeres from?
[22:32] <WiteStar> (cause right now  just load the mini.iso into memory )
[22:32] <Seveas> last time I used d-i, I believe I made it fetch the preseed file over http
[22:33] <jlf> Seveas: oh sorry, host is osx 10.10.5, virtualbox 5.0.20, and the vm was created with vagrant 1.8.4 based on geerlingguy/ubuntu1604
[22:33] <Seveas> though this was in 2004 or 2005
[22:33] <jamieshepherd> 16.04, if I dod service foobar status, I get a few lines like Memory, CPU etc.
[22:33] <jamieshepherd> if CPU is in seconds, what does that mean?
[22:33] <WiteStar> hmm i could just remaster a iso
[22:34] <Seveas> jamieshepherd: amount of cpu seconds it has used
[22:34] <jamieshepherd> Ah Seveas, so it's normal to keep increasing?
[22:34] <Seveas> jamieshepherd: yes, if it were to decrease, you've been playing with the flux capacitors again...
[22:34] <jamieshepherd> awesome =) thanks
[22:36] <WiteStar> i cnat like change the sources to point to 14 and just do a dist upgrade right?
[22:36] <Seveas> WiteStar: nope.
[22:37] <Seveas> you will need to reinstall.
[22:37] <WiteStar> ok so reauthoring the iso it is
[22:37] <k1l> WiteStar: no. that will not work in this case and doesnt wokr in general
[22:37] <WiteStar> 14.04 right
[22:38] <WiteStar> Trusty
[22:38] <k1l> yes
[22:38] <Seveas> I did once make a downgrade work, I believe it was 14.10 down to 14.04. It was long, arduous and no fun. I shudder at the thought of doing a 3-release downgrade :)
[22:38] <Seveas> also, it took a lot of manual prodding, some of which in a rescue shell. Wouldn't hae worked from across town.
[22:39] <WiteStar> yaaa,...
[22:40] <WiteStar> to bad there is no way to get into the inserller over ssh or something
[22:40] <Seveas> in the time you've spent here trying not to go to the machine to reinstall, you could have gone therir already and be halfway through installing it...
[22:41] <WiteStar> Seveas: rush hour in  this city is horrible!!
[22:41] <Seveas> WiteStar: helicopter.
[22:41] <WiteStar> i'd be sitting in friday traffic.. still
[22:41] <WiteStar> hahah i wish
[22:42] <Seveas> which city are you in?
[22:42] <WiteStar> toronto
[22:42] <WiteStar> (ontario)
[22:43] <WiteStar> funny we had some 20 year old kid last night speal a small plane from a small air field and crash it LOL
[22:43] <WiteStar> not a helicopter but
[22:43] <jpX> is there any firewall on by default that would block me from accessing a port on another device within the same network?
[22:43] <Seveas> jpX: nope.
[22:43] <bipul> By default when we install Ubuntu, it ask for for user. That user after installation treated as a sudo user. But i am unable to find that user in visudo file. Why?
[22:44] <Seveas> jpX: to check the firewall, do sudo iptables-save. Despite its name, it saves nothing but will output all firewall rules.
[22:44] <Seveas> bipul: the user is member of the sudo group, which you will find in the sudoers file.
[22:44] <k1l> bipul: that is handled with the sudo group on ubuntu
[22:45] <jpX> anything I should look for specifically Seveas?
[22:45] <bipul> Seveas, Yes, admin? is that what you are talking about?
[22:45] <Seveas> bipul: that was the group name used on older versions of ubuntu, these days the group named 'sudo' is used
[22:45] <bipul> Members of the admin group may gain root privilege %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[22:45] <Seveas> both appear in the sudoers file for backwards compatibility
[22:45] <k1l> bipul: what ubuntu are we talking about exactly?
[22:46] <bipul> hold on let me paste my /etc/sudoers file.
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> bipul  cat /etc/issue
[22:47] <bipul> http://sprunge.us/MObD
[22:48] <Seveas> %sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[22:48] <k1l> admin was the old goup used up to 10.04 and is still named there for compatibility reasons
[22:49] <bipul> Yes, my secondary group is sudo for bipul account.
[22:49] <bipul> uid=1000(bipul) gid=1000(bipul) groups=1000(bipul),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),33(www-data),46(plugdev),113(lpadmin),128(sambashare)
[22:49] <Seveas> k1l: do you remember why it was changed? Sounds like a pointless action to me.
[22:50] <k1l> dont know anymore :)
[22:51] <Seveas> you're useless :P
[22:51] <bipul> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l
[22:52] <arthur> hello
[22:52] <catopett> I having problems with installing RTL-SDR on UBUNTU, need help
[22:53] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Are you installing a "third party driver", source, or what, exactly?
[22:53] <catopett> PROGRAM
[22:54] <yvear> is there a way to install multiple versions of VirtualBox? I won't be running them at the same time
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> catopett: "Caps" aren't necessary, please. Now, is the program part of the Ubuntu repositories, or something else?
[22:54] <catopett> Yes
[22:54] <unotir> yvear: why
[22:55] <Flannel> Seveas: Upstream (debian) consistency, which looks like it was done because sudo people did it.
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Yes, meaning, what?
[22:55] <Seveas> k1l: Flannel: found something in the package changelog and a related bug on launchpad. It's a bit messy, to say the least :)
[22:55] <unotir> YankDownUnder: yes means yes
[22:55] <catopett> Yes the program is a part of the Ubuntu repositories
[22:56] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Ok...fair enough - then what's the issue you're having?
[22:56] <yvear> unotir, need 4.3 for compatibility reasons
[22:56] <catopett> I do not find a way to run program
[22:56] <unotir> catopett: ahhh
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Have you looked through all of your menus? Have you done a "search" for the program?
[22:57] <arthur__> what does that program do?
[22:57] <yvear> is there a way to install multiple versions of VirtualBox? I won't be running them at the same time
[22:57] <unotir> arthur__: what ever
[22:58] <catopett> unotir should be kicked out he sead F.... YOU to me in pm
[22:58] <yvear> me too^
[22:58] <arthur__> unotir, hello
[22:58] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Ignore him, he's obvious got a problem this morning and wants to cause problems for others.
[22:58] <unotir> catopett: liar
[22:58] <Flannel> catopett: rtl-sdr isn't a program, it's a library.  There are some low-level utilities included in it, but it's primarily a library.
[22:59] <OerHeks> catopett, sudo apt-get install gnuradio http://www.instructables.com/id/rtl-sdr-on-Ubuntu/
[22:59] <YankDownUnder> !ops
[22:59] <catopett> Ok
[22:59] <YankDownUnder> k1l: Thank you.
[22:59] <catopett> What is the different between apt and apt-get?
[23:00] <YankDownUnder> catopett: "apt" is the base repo command, "apt-get" is basically a script using "apt" - just makes things easier
[23:00] <yvear> http://imgur.com/a/QVAdf
 Fuck you
[23:00] <catopett>  You white nigger
[23:00] <catopett>  You filthy piece of shit
[23:00] <Seveas> YankDownUnder: the other way around. apt is this newfangled wrapper around apt-get, apt-cache and maybe more.
[23:01] <Flannel> catopett, yvear: stop, it's handled.
[23:01] <IdleOne> catopett: Please don't paste that in here
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> Seveas: Learn something new every day.
[23:01] <Seveas> catopett: no need to repeat that in here. Take it to #ubuntu-ops
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Ignore the person - close the windows of the PM if they're bothering you.
[23:01] <k1l> the user was kicked out of here. if he keeps pming you report it in #freenode or pm staff and report it there
[23:02] <Seveas> or use the magic ignore button
[23:03] <Seveas> don't argue with trolls. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
[23:03] <OerHeks> Trolls are just lonely.
[23:04] <catopett> What is the different between apt and apt-get?
[23:04] <Ben64> apt is newer and easier/better to use
[23:04] <OerHeks> as of 16.04, no difference in apt/apt-get
[23:04] <Seveas> catopett: it was explained above.
[23:04] <k1l> apt is newer and trying to gtoup several apt-get, apt-cache,.... commands into one command
[23:05] <Flannel> Ben64: possibly easier (or at least more obscure), but hardly better.
[23:06] <econdudeawesome> howdy all! Got any suggestions how to configure iwconfig for high noise/poor signal environments?
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> k1l: Here's just a question - pertaining to the future of "apt" - is "Snap" going to end up replacing "apt"?
[23:06] <k1l> YankDownUnder: no
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> k1l: Just a thought
[23:06] <econdudeawesome> I turned on frag rate to something I thought might be reasonable: 512 Kb. No idea if this is the best way to get around this though
[23:06] <Ben64> Flannel: easier = better?
[23:06] <catopett> Is it true that MICROSOFT is trying to buy linux?
[23:07] <Flannel> k1l: I'd disagree.  But I'm a bit cynical.
[23:07] <Flannel> Ben64: Not really, no.
[23:07] <k1l> catopett: you cant buy linux
[23:07] <YankDownUnder> catopett: There is no way to "buy linux"... :)
[23:07] <OerHeks> catopett, you tell us?
[23:07] <OerHeks> LoLz, flamewar
[23:07] <CyberDems> how to configure/trigger udev with a custom initramfs ?
[23:08] <Seveas> catopett: it's true that Microsoft no longer sees linux as an enemy, they even built en equivalent of wine to run native linux apps on windows.
[23:08] <catopett> MS does not like free os, and thay are trying to take over linux i hear
[23:08] <Flannel> catopett: You should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, it's not support, so it belongs there :)
[23:08] <YankDownUnder> catopett: This has been going on since 1992, bro...
[23:08] <Seveas> catopett: the first part of that is typical 90's microsoft attitude, these days it's mostly untrue though. The second part is a warped reality :)
[23:09] <Seveas> Flannel: we should make ubuntu installable in human brains, then mental therapy could be considered ubuntu support :D
[23:09] <YankDownUnder> Seveas: :)
[23:09] <catopett> Whats wrong with free os and free programs/software?
[23:10] <Seveas> catopett: do you have any Ubuntu support question?
[23:10] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Absolutely nothing. Free is good. It keeps "interest" and also keeps things from getting too secretive/closed...
[23:11] <catopett> Looking for a good guide to decompile old dos programs in ubuntu
[23:12] <yvear> is there a way to install multiple versions of VirtualBox? I won't be running them at the same time
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> catopett: Truly not a support topic for in here. :)
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> yvear: Have you asked in #virtualbox?
[23:12] <yvear> YankDownUnder, ah, ty
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> yvear: yw, good luck
[23:14] <catopett> Someone want to give me a clue about a good irc client?
[23:14] <YankDownUnder> catopett: What are you using now?
[23:14] <catopett> xchat
[23:15] <k1l> xchat is dead. use at least hexchat
[23:15] <YankDownUnder> catopett: HexxChat, Konversation => but it really depends on YOUR comfort level. Which do you prefer? And there's more than the two primary ones...
[23:16] <OerHeks> catopett, you want to compile a irc client for dos?
[23:17] <Titas> catopett
[23:17] <Titas>     OS X: Textual (paid) or LimeChat (free)
[23:17] <Titas>     Windows: mIRC (paid) or HexChat (free)
[23:17] <Titas>     Linux: XChat
[23:18] <YankDownUnder> Titas: XChat/Aqua is nice, ahem...(and free)(for MacOS)
[23:18] <OerHeks> irssi, weechat ..
[23:21] <catopett> If i want to set up a IRC SERVER, what server is best then?
[23:22] <Seveas> Titas: shouldn't you be sleeping? :P
[23:22] <YankDownUnder> catopett: UnrealIRCd is the biggest...
[23:24] <Titas> Seveas :P My body don't want to sleep
[23:24] <catro> ola
[23:24] <Seveas> Titas: nothing a swith tap with a rubber mallet can't solve
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> Titas: Australians don't sleep. Australia is awake 24/7, 365.24 days of the year. (Not really - that's a huge lie) :)
[23:28] <Titas> YankDownUnder :D
[23:28] <Seveas> YankDownUnder: australians don't 'have sex'. They mate.
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> Seveas: PMSL...yep...round about spot on.
[23:46] <cupofbrew> It's my understanding that ubuntu doesn't require antivirus software. In that case, how do I scan/check for malware?
[23:47] <cupofbrew> I'm kind of paranoid regarding internet security, so what steps should I take to keep my system clean?
[23:48] <Seveas> cupofbrew: there are not many linux viruses, so it's true that most linux users don't sue an antivirus program
[23:48] <Seveas> if you want, you can run something like clamav though
[23:49] <cupofbrew> I have this fear of someone gaining remote access to my system through some sort of malware or keylogger.
[23:49] <cupofbrew> Unless I periodically reformat, there's not much I can do though.
[23:50] <Seveas> have you seen a psychologist about this paranoia? :)
[23:51] <cupofbrew> Haha, it's not so much paranoia, but an increased concern for internet privacy in light of the NSA leaks and whatnot
[23:51] <cupofbrew> I suppose I have strong views regarding the right to internet privacy
[23:51] <letalis> what is the command to make a console terminal figure out the dimensions of the screen its on, currently i have a laptop connected to a larger monitor and the dimensions of the console are inherited from the laptop screen
[23:52] <cupofbrew> Does anyone know if Tor is sandboxed?
[23:52] <Seveas> letalis: either use the gui interface (click the ubuntu logo, search for Displays) or futz around with the xrandr command to make the displays look the way you want.
[23:53] <Seveas> cupofbrew: it is not.
[23:53] <letalis> okay
[23:53] <cupofbrew> And does Firefox have plans to roll out a sandbox feature by default? I've used firejail in the past for that.
[23:53] <kenrin> There are tons of antivirus for linux cupofbrew
[23:53] <cupofbrew> Any suggestions kenrin?
[23:53] <cupofbrew> Other than clamav as seveas mentioned
[23:53] <kenrin> clamd is what most use
[23:54] <Seveas> clamd == clamav
[23:54] <cupofbrew> ok
[23:54] <cupofbrew> is it open source?
[23:54] <Seveas> it is
[23:54] <maven> You could run a linux vm with tor as a sandbox
[23:55] <cupofbrew> To be honest, that's too much work for my purposes.
[23:55] <kenrin> Just put Tor into a docker
[23:55] <cupofbrew> I need something faster than Tor
[23:55] <cupofbrew> Firefox is my primary browser
[23:55] <adrian_1908> hello. I need to install an FTP program, haven't used one in a while. I used to use FileZilla, which I also knew from Windows. Would you guys recommend that one too, or is there something you like even more?
[23:55] <maven> Well you could use any browser inside a vm as a sandbox really
[23:55] <cupofbrew> I use a few privacy-oriented plugins to help with that
[23:55] <cupofbrew> What about firejail?
[23:56] <maven> or try sandboxie
[23:56] <Seveas> adrian_1908: if you don't mind the terminal, lftp is pretty decent
[23:56] <cupofbrew> I don't know much about it other than that it's a command based program
[23:56] <cupofbrew> *terminal based
[23:56] <kenrin> cupofbrew: Have you checked out qubes OS?
[23:56] <cupofbrew> Does sandboxie have a gui
[23:56] <milestone234> kenrin you sure there are tons of antivirus cause i have been looking into that...i have clamav already but does not seem to do much real time scanning
[23:57] <cupofbrew> I have checked out qubes, but I need something more useable for daily use
[23:57] <kenrin> All the big names mostly have linux versions,  my friend works on avast linux
[23:57] <me> hello just testing
[23:57] <adrian_1908> Seveas: checking that out right now, thanks.
[23:58] <kenrin> If you want real-time scanning though,  you need to set it up
[23:58] <kenrin> For clamAV
[23:58] <cupofbrew> Does sandboxie work with every program?
[23:58] <maven> sudo apt-get install tor
[23:59] <cupofbrew> ans is it easily configureable
[23:59] <kenrin> Recent article on it:  http://blog.clamav.net/2016/03/configuring-on-access-scanning-in-clamav.html