[00:00] clivejo: ping :P [00:01] I thought I get disconnected [00:01] I don't see any message saying so [00:02] well weegie stopped working and everything went quiet [00:02] oh. internet problems, so you mean your side [00:02] * clivejo cries [00:03] so many broken merges all blaming me! [00:04] 'Sending notification to culprit: clivejo' [00:04] acheronuk: can you see the status page? [00:04] forgot about that [00:04] hehehehehehe [00:05] yep. Last updated on 2016-08-13 00:00 (UTC) [00:05] :( [00:05] merger failures [00:06] * tsimonq2 fixes [00:06] be careful :P [00:06] still orange there. [00:06] I think Ive got all the symbols [00:07] I was starting at the bottom trying to fix lintian complaints [00:07] every time I've sat down with the intention of looking at those today, something has happened to pull me away :/ [00:07] or was not working [00:07] clivejo: don't worry, I'm the merger fixer 👷 ⚒ hehehehehehehehehehehehe [00:08] uploaded fix for umbrello when my internet started acting up [00:08] * clivejo wonders how this GCC move is going to effect building on two different versions [00:09] ie Xenial build gcc5 and Yakkety with gcc6? [00:09] I think so [00:09] clivejo: you have to ask yourself... WWYD? [00:09] :D [00:09] indeed [00:10] get apps fixed and ready for upload is main priority at the moment [00:11] so thats a question for another day [00:11] what needs to be done for that? [00:11] if nothing it done to tweak default compiler setting to minimise chaos, I guess it could be messy. [00:11] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html [00:11] santa is working on kalzium which is currently FTBFS [00:12] there are a few lintian complains needed looked at and fixed [00:13] but LP is soo slow, its pure torture [00:13] I cant remember what Ive fixed and uploaded! [00:13] and the PPA is getting full again! [00:15] yay :( [00:15] just slow at clearing old versions? [00:15] probably [00:16] fkcing with akonadi, steer clear :) [00:17] YESSSSS I WIN XD [00:17] soem complain about no multiarch, so guess need something like http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/applications/messagelib.git/commit/?h=Neon/unstable&id=a86a88315cb71ef7618b2e47956033e2adf87830 [00:18] *some [00:18] Project merger_akonadi build #468: FIXED in 22 sec: [00:18] acheronuk: feel free to patch and upload [00:18] Im gonna call it a night [00:19] o/ clivejo [00:19] not going just yet [00:19] so am I. been busy, just not on here [00:19] just gonna stop packaging work [00:19] unwind for a bit [00:20] I'm not going to start as I'll just **** it up when I'm this sleepy [00:20] yeah, I wish I had that sense somethings [00:20] sometimes [00:23] :( [00:23] oh there's just multiple problesm [00:23] *problems [00:23] good night [00:24] hopefully I can can on to doing some fixes tomorrow that I didn't manage today [00:24] *get on to [00:24] * acheronuk is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [00:24] acheronuk: YOU broke this, I'm fixing it :P [00:25] *grumble grumble* [00:25] broke what? [00:26] acheronuk: merger in the changelog, you put it on two lines in one branch and on in another [00:26] acheronuk: trivial but I can still (jokingly) grumble at you :P [00:27] aaahhhhh [00:28] I think someone must have wrap-and-sort that in one branch but not the other [00:28] no that was me [00:29] either way, fixing [00:29] he spelt something wrong and the line was too long [00:30] * clivejo thinks lintian has a bit of tsimonq2 in it [00:30] acheronuk: I think you put overide instead of overrides [00:30] XD clivejo [00:31] clivejo: you mean my annoyingness or keen eye for spelling? :P [00:31] * acheronuk is not going to mention the spelling of 'colour' to an American [00:31] s/colour/color/g * [00:31] * tsimonq2 runs [00:31] you're anoyingness [00:31] hey now clivejo :P [00:32] and lintian is just as annoying [00:32] XD [00:32] doesnt just tell you once, it tells you like 5 times [00:32] then I'll agree with Lintian as I'm fixing it :P [00:32] XD [00:33] YAY I did that ^ [00:33] LOL it told me I fixed it [00:33] so nar nar [00:33] If lintian could use a red pen to highlight your mistakes, I'm sure it would [00:33] WHAT clivejo? :O [00:33] * tsimonq2 yells at yofl to fix it [00:34] Its color [00:34] acheronuk: I am that red pen :P [00:35] btw my local Git setup magically fixes all merge errors :P [00:35] :/ [00:35] LOL [00:35] just be careful! [00:35] hehehehehehehe [00:35] yep clivejo, I look at my changes before I push [00:35] they need human logic [00:36] oh that's right I forgot to push kubuntu_stable [00:38] yay [00:40] oh I fixed cantor too [00:40] go meeee! [00:40] * tsimonq2 kicks clivejo [00:41] what?!? [00:41] [01:40:22] [kubuntu-ci] Yippee! Seems you've fixed merger_cantor: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_cantor/592/ [00:41] yofel: you broke it(:P), when *I* fix things, *clivejo* gets a pat on the back :P [00:41] clivejo: look at the Git history, that was *me* :P [00:42] KCI thinks it was me [00:42] makes a change from always getting the blame when it breaks! [00:42] * tsimonq2 feels neglected :( :P [00:42] how many are left? [00:43] clivejo: 6, which I'll fix within the hour [00:43] it's easy, even when I check it over [00:43] usually Git does The Right Thing™ [00:46] isnt it your bed time? [00:46] clivejo: I don't have a bed time, and it's only 7:47 PM [00:47] not that late at all [00:47] thought you were on euro time [00:47] nop [00:47] *nope [00:47] I fixed my sleep schedule [00:47] wish mine was that easy! [00:49] yay! [00:49] * tsimonq2 kicks clivejo for getting the notification [00:50] not my fault! [00:50] Im not a football! [00:51] clivejo: football as in American football or everywhere else in the world? :P [00:51] ^ [00:51] any, stop kicking me :P [00:52] hehehehehehehe [00:52] time for bed [00:52] night all [00:52] o/ [00:54] * tsimonq2 stops celebrating when fixing things [01:00] yofel: nvm, it's a merge, and Clive committed before the merge [01:00] yofel: but that should still be tweaked [01:05] yofel, clivejo: all mergers fixed, looking at http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.04.3_yakkety.html now [01:16] hmm, I have no clue what makes it unstable... [05:33] mm the admin of the FB KDE group is a bit bias [06:29] ahoneybun: link? [06:36] valorie: facebook does not like doing that outside their site [06:37] ok [06:37] I'm trying to find a way to link though [06:37] https://www.facebook.com/groups/KDECommunity/ [06:37] this is the group jimarvan is in [06:37] as am I [06:39] * ahoneybun wonders about kate snap again [06:40] not sure what you can do about prejudiced people who don't mind creating distro-wars [06:41] I see no point to that [06:42] just pointing it out [06:42] hello [06:42] heyo vip [06:47] * ahoneybun really needs to get back to his normal sleep cycle [09:17] hiho [10:08] clivejo: KCI is berating me about merge failures today :P [11:13] good morning everyone [11:21] morning santa [11:26] morning [11:26] or afternoon [11:28] so apps 16.08 available on depot, and FW 5.25 released.... [11:29] * acheronuk swiftly leaves the building [11:36] :) [11:42] no need to leave the building, but yes [11:46] santa_: in marble there is a lintian error [11:46] E: libmarblewidget-qt5-23: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _Z17qRegisterMetaTypeIN6Marble13DownloadUsageEEiPKcPT_N9QtPrivate21MetaTypeDefinedHelperIS4_Xaasr12QMetaTypeId2IS4_E7DefinedntsrS9_9IsBuiltInEE11DefinedTypeE@Base and 13782 others [11:46] what does that mean? [11:49] the version for that symbol is 4:15.08.0 [11:49] why or how does it think thats a debian version? [11:50] clivejo: when a symbol is not listed in the symbols file, it's usually added to the final symbols list (the final symbols list in the *.deb) including the package revision, which triggers that lintian warning [11:50] let me check waht's up [11:51] just cant seem to figure our why its complaining :/ [11:52] clivejo: ok, very simple, there's no symbols file for libmarblewidget-qt5-24. However theres a symbols file for the -23 version [11:52] that's the problem [11:53] just provide the symbols file for -24 and remove the -23 one [11:53] well blow me down [11:55] clivejo: even worse, open debian/libmarblewidget-qt5-23.install [11:55] whole library package needs shifting from -23 to -24 I think. [11:55] I see! [11:55] yes, the whole bin package must be renamed to -24 [11:55] I had to do that in unstable, but to -25 I think [12:24] Hey folks [12:30] hiho BluesKaj [12:32] hi soee [12:42] 'symbols-declares-dependency-on-other-package' big issue? [12:43] acheronuk: which package? [12:44] several. for example W: libkf5incidenceeditor5: symbols-declares-dependency-on-other-package libkf5incidenceeditor-bin [12:45] acheronuk: override it [12:45] the dependency on the other package is intentional and it's done for a good reason [12:50] debian have not chosen to override those, which made me wonder... [12:52] I wonder if clive has gone for lunch, or is still trying to beat marble into submission? [15:38] hi yofel [15:38] I made the overrides system for the build depends [15:39] I think I'm done with the next batch of updates for KA and I'm doing a full test rebuild of frameworks/plasma/applications [15:40] if you want to inspect the changes I would like to merge they are available here: https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+git/kubuntu-automation/+ref/work3 [15:40] I will ping you again when the test rebuild is done (I guess it will take 20-30 hours from now) [16:18] why so many apps?........... the number to fix doesn't seem to go down. [17:06] What you mean? [17:06] o/ [17:07] Hi Simon [17:09] hi tsimonq2 :) [17:09] how are you all today? [17:10] good. trying to fix up the apps, and breaking merges [17:11] merges? [17:11] :O [17:12] acheronuk: you broke it, I'll fix it :P (merges) [17:12] unless you were working on it? [17:13] not really. would have got to it in the end, but was trying try concentrate on the apps themselves [17:13] Rik are you working on 16.04.3 apps? [17:14] clivejo: yes. gradually. done a fair few today. [17:15] is that ok? [17:16] clivejo, Clifford, acheronuk: I have no idea how to make apps stable again if I don't know *exactly* what makes them unstable. :P [17:20] tsimonq2: are you referring to the status on the QA page, or the KCI messages, or just generally? [17:20] acheronuk: as in the KCI messages [17:21] acheronuk: and the page [17:23] well, the QA page has the cmake output, missing file, lintian output, for what was wrong, when you click the "show/hide" link for each package that is not green [17:24] KCI should have some clues in the parsed console output link, or failing that in the buildlog link [17:25] it's just detective work from there to try to work out the problem and a fix. [17:32] .......or just stare at the error for some time thinking, WTF? [17:33] http://blog.broulik.de/2016/08/getting-ready-for-lts/ [18:22] clivejo: I have been reading the irc logs, I see you mentioned this [18:22] * clivejo wonders how this GCC move is going to effect building on two different versions [18:23] see analitza for instance, you updated the symbols file because there was at least 1 additional symbol with yaketty/gcc6 right? [18:24] lets supose this symbol this symbol appears only in gcc 6 (it's just an example) [18:25] now lets supose we backport the package for xenial, which has gcc 5 [18:26] we are now in trouble because it will fail to build because the symbol is missing for gcc 5 [18:26] of course we could re-work the symbols files for backporting but this seems pretty idiotic to me [18:28] so I think we could follow a better workflow and it's working in parallel for yakkety and xenial and mark the gcc6-only optional symbols as optional=gccinternal [18:29] like what I did with my frameworks merge requests [18:29] this way we will have backports friendly symbols files [19:18] clivejo: I may not get onto doing any more of those 16.04.3 apps today [19:18] I think its just lintian stuff now [19:19] bar kalzium [19:19] santa_ was looking into that [19:20] Id kinda like to have the finished and ready to upload this weekend [19:20] yes. some of it I'm not sure what to do with, as looking at debian/neon, they have just ignored many of the ones left. [19:21] clivejo: kalzium must be fixed now with yesterday's upload of avogadro [19:21] santa_: didnt know that, Ill start a NC rebuild [19:22] I just retried it [19:22] clivejo: ^ [19:22] yes, please go ahead. as long as its built with my fixed avogadro (already in yakkety) it will build fine [19:22] should work as long as it doesn't use avogadro on armhf [19:23] http://tsimonq2.net/blog/2016/08/13/ [19:23] * tsimonq2 runs [19:25] darn trolls! [19:28] amd64 of kalzium just built :) [19:33] * tsimonq2 throws ahoneybun off a building [19:33] ahoneybun: https://kubuntu.com/news/kubuntu-podcast-15/ https certificate is wacky, got red screen [19:33] ahoneybun: and you guys spelled my last name wrong! s/Quigly/Quigley/g [19:34] 'Your connection is not secure. The owner of kubuntu.com has configured their web site improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox Developer Edition has not connected to this web site.' [19:34] ditto then ^^^ [19:35] ahoneybun: read the comments on your videos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pKHWBgXx5c [19:35] ahoneybun: and you said you would link to my soundboard but didn't :P [19:36] maybe take all this to #kubuntu-podcast? [19:36] valorie: that's a thing? :O [19:36] lol [19:36] !alis | tsimonq2 [19:36] tsimonq2: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http [19:36] <3 <3 [19:41] apt-cache policy packagekit [19:41] packagekit: [19:41] Installed: (none) [19:41] Candidate: 1.1.1-1ubuntu1 [19:41] a least that migrated ^^^ [19:41] oh wow [19:49] yofel: how are apps looking? [19:50] WOW [19:50] plasma just crashed [19:50] thats a first on yakkety! [19:52] * soee is https://maidencalifornia.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/147772.gif [20:49] * clivejo locks tsimonq2 up in KF5Prison [20:51] clivejo: for what crime? :P [20:51] anti-social behavour [20:52] pushing people in rivers and so forth [20:53] !info libkf5prison1 [20:53] libkf5prison1 (source: prison-kf5): barcode API for Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2~git20150223-0ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 17 kB, installed size 89 kB [20:53] clivejo: yofel: problem with the apps and plasma-scriptengine-javascript from kde-runtime http://paste.ubuntu.com/23052703/ [20:53] * clivejo scratches head, why does PIM need barcodes [20:55] !info plasma-scriptengine-javascript [20:55] plasma-scriptengine-javascript (source: kde-runtime): JavaScript script engine for Plasma. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 418 kB, installed size 2010 kB [20:55] the rest upgraded ok [20:57] I can easily imagine people getting barcodes via email [20:57] so it would need to read them [20:58] and perhaps be able to generate them as well [20:58] in fact some people now sign email with a barcode [20:58] rather than "geek block" [20:59] ahhh [20:59] The following packages have unmet dependencies. [20:59] kde-runtime : Depends: libwebp6 (>= 0.5.1) but it is not installable [20:59] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [20:59] but all that built against proposed, did it not? [20:59] yup [21:01] and libwebp (0.5.1-2) is still in proposed [21:02] when did it go to propsed? [21:02] 2016-08-03 [21:02] 3rd [21:02] should have been in there when we uploaded apps [21:03] I think I saw it mentioned in one of the discussions on getting things in proposed unstck [21:03] can you try installing libwebp6 and see what it says [21:04] Package libwebp6 is not available, but is referred to by another package. [21:04] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [21:04] is only available from another source [21:04] E: Package 'libwebp6' has no installation candidate [21:04] have you propsed enabled? [21:05] sigh [21:05] * blaze wants qt5.7 [21:05] Nope, that is what I was about to say. I guess it will work when it transitions. [21:06] so maybe false alarm.... [21:06] so if you had propsed enabled that would probably install ok [21:06] why do I keep dropping an o [21:07] clivejo: just testing, without actually installing anything [21:07] ah [21:07] no prob [21:08] phew! http://paste.ubuntu.com/23052732/ [21:08] thats better! [21:09] !info finger [21:09] :D [21:09] finger (source: bsd-finger): user information lookup program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-15 (yakkety), package size 16 kB, installed size 66 kB [21:10] * acheronuk turns off proposed before he forgets and does some damage! [21:11] woah, that's still provided!? [21:11] nice. software-properties-kde exits with a segfault [21:11] incredible blast from the past [21:13] like Gopher [21:13] yes [21:13] I remember that too [21:14] none of that worked any better at 300 baud than the net is working for me today! [21:16] blaze: having enough hassle getting 5.6 migrated! [21:20] * blaze still doesn't understand why Qt is in universe [21:20] they're using it for Unity8 [21:20] +1 [21:21] that does seem strange [21:25] unity8 is in universe too [21:25] until that becomes the default they have no reason to officially support it [21:32] good point [21:35] need opinion [21:36] kbroulik asked me propose new look for Battery widget [21:36] what do you think about battery tab like this: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/13/layout-battery.png [21:37] icons will be different as this is only draft [21:39] nice soee [21:54] FF looks nasty in YY at the moment :( [21:55] yeah :( [22:05] how are we looking overall? [22:05] * clivejo looks in the mirror [22:06] very tired looking [22:06] lol [22:06] * valorie shares the tea [22:06] need sleep [22:06] I suggest going to bed then! [22:06] I will once Im certain my ball cock has stopped leaking [22:07] then turn the water on and have a shower! [22:07] ewww, leaky plumbing [22:07] a shower is nice before bed [22:07] very relaxing [22:07] wrecks my hair the next day so I don't often do that though [22:08] I know, hate when it wreaks my hair [22:08] my husband just laughs at me when I say that [22:08] he's half-bald [22:08] Im not bald, but its very short! [22:09] so you were laughing at me too [22:09] FINE! [22:09] * valorie flounces away [22:09] just being sarcastic [22:11] dont leave me all alone :( [22:13] lol [22:13] as was I [22:13] <3 [22:14] I think Ive fixed it [22:14] what did ya fix? [22:14] cant hear any water [22:15] the ball cock [22:15] oh, the toilet [22:15] excellent [22:15] no, the header tank for the house! [22:15] a little vegetable color will tell the tale [22:15] ooo, that's more serious [22:16] yes, its hard to get at and I had to empy it first [22:16] a few years back we had the whole house re-piped from the meter [22:16] I'm so glad [22:16] there was a leak somewhere that we could never find [22:17] now all those old galvanized pipes can rust in peace [22:17] They trying to remove stored water here [22:17] stored? [22:17] like they do in Aus.? [22:18] yeah, most older houses here have a large water tank in the roof space [22:19] that seems odd [22:19] and gravity feeds the bathrooms and hot water system [22:19] plenty of water in Ireland, right? [22:19] used to be due to mains pressure going up and down as people used it during the day [22:20] ah [22:20] now they have a legal requirement for mains preasure [22:20] they finally looped our system so that doesn't happen [22:20] it was pretty bad when we first moved here [22:21] oops, let's move this to -offtopic [22:45] yofel: heh, Qt 5.7 seems to be in Experimental [22:46] great, hopefully we'll get that early in 17.04 then .. [22:47] yofel: when do we start the transition in KCI? [22:47] (just curious, I'm fully aware 5.6 isn't in the archive yet :P) [22:47] good question. Maybe let it cook a while in experimental and take it in a month or so [22:48] what's the process for doing that? [22:48] yeah, but there are things requiring 5.7 already, so it's a valid point [22:48] qtbase has a readme on how you need to upload it, so if you follow that you can pretty much use the debian package for ubuntu [22:53] yofel: how are apps looking? [22:56] I wonder why kdenlive isn't picking up qtwebkitwidgets [22:56] or did i only fix that for the CI.. [22:57] oh right, and there was that prison issue.. [22:58] do you want to include prison? [22:59] I didn't want to add even more transitions... so lets look at that again tomorrow [22:59] did I hear somewhere they are releasing it as frameworks? [23:00] that's what I heard, but I see nothing in the 5.25 folder.. [23:00] yeah, just looked myself [23:00] hmm [23:00] kdesdk-thumbnailers needs its -dbg package killed [23:01] so Lubuntu Next uses Muon Discover and I'm going through and configuring everything [23:01] :) [23:01] it's broken... === aektzis is now known as aektzim [23:02] damn I forgot the PC at work open :P [23:02] hm, the pim libs will need multiarchifying [23:02] how are you guys? (jim) [23:02]