/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/13/#ubuntu-mate.txt

=== gryphon_ is now known as gryphon
nico995hello.. I was wondering if the loss of decorations with compiz is due to my pc or a bug to fix00:45
mate|30412Hello!00:50
mate|30412I have a laptop on which I already have Windows 8.1 installed.00:50
mate|30412I would like to install Ubuntu Mate in parallel, but it is very important that the Windows installation doesn't break.00:51
mate|30412The installer reads something along the lines of: you have booted in UEFI mode and are going to install Ubuntu MATE in UEFI mode, but you have another operating system installed in compatibility mode. If you continue, you may encounter problems in booting the other Operating Systems.00:52
mate|30412What should I do about this?00:52
nico995i'm here again, sorry01:01
=== YDU_away is now known as YankDownUnder
=== kyle is now known as Guest61057
=== pavlushka_ is now known as Guest61875
=== Guest61875 is now known as pavlushka
edbikerhi05:14
serkan_arkadaşlar kilit ekranındayken sanal klavye kulanımı nasıl oluyor07:51
serkan_bilen var mı07:51
serkan_Türk var mı07:52
SImpleXMAnyone here knows if its possible to get a better performance when VNC into ubuntu mate running on a pi ?08:37
angelo_hello.09:07
* pavlushka looking with diluted eyes.09:11
gordonjcpSImpleXM: why are you using VNC?09:13
gordonjcpSImpleXM: if you absolutely have to use a GUI app remotely09:13
SImpleXMDo not have a spare monitor luying around09:13
gordonjcpwhich is pretty ibssne09:14
gordonjcp*insane09:14
gordonjcpyou could just forward X09:14
SImpleXMforward X ?09:14
gordonjcpwhich is kind of the whole point of X09:14
gordonjcpssh in and set DISPLAY to your desktop mschinr's ip addy09:15
SImpleXMwould you happen to know a guide for that ? how would I set the display09:16
=== YankDownUnder is now known as YDU_away
gordonjcpSImpleXM: google :-) i don't have web acxess at the noment09:35
gordonjcpsomething like $ DISPLAY=<ip address> <command>09:37
gordonjcpall on one line09:37
gordonjcpyou might look into x forwarding over ssh too09:37
=== pavlushka is now known as Guest35839
=== pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka
SImpleXMwhat is the difference between, DISPLAY=192.168.1.10:0;export DISPLAY;xterm & and DISPLAY=192.168.1.10:0;xterm &10:36
SImpleXMso without the "export DISPLAY"10:37
chappiehey10:40
chappieanyone is here10:40
ubuntu-matehi10:42
chappiehi10:43
chappiehi everyone11:46
=== jacques is now known as Guest56198
=== ubuntu is now known as CBoon
=== pavlushka is now known as Guest84781
=== Guest84781 is now known as pavlushka
=== stephen is now known as Guest80091
=== Guest80091 is now known as PendragonUK
=== apessoa is now known as Guest35615
=== max__ is now known as Guest81571
bvnaikhave installed ubuntu mate on rpi3, and connected via HDMI, but it seems that HDMI screen goes blank for a few seconds whenever i open a new app or something, pls help in sorting this issue17:05
SuperEngineerermmm... your pi is thinking "now you want me to do what!?"17:14
bvnaikso is it power supply not being adequate?17:17
bvnaikhow shall i correct screen blanking17:17
White_Lighthas anyone else has terrible experiences with 16.04?17:19
* SuperEngineer telepathically connects to bvnaik's power supply to ask it if is adequate [or whether it needs a therapist] ;-)17:19
White_Lighthad*17:19
SuperEngineerWhite_Light: none hear [sorry, but pleased to report zero probs here]17:20
White_Light4.4 ubuntu kernel is throwing sata errors for my ssd only at boot (MX300), yet on 4.5, 4.6, 4.7 have no issues17:20
White_Lightthere's no hope of filing bugs dude - there's been problem even joining domains that have known fixes in fedora yet take 4+ months to even get looked at17:21
SuperEngineerthen is it a kernel issue, not U-Mate issue?17:21
White_Lightyeah it's not a mate issue at all, but it's hopeless talking in ubuntu17:22
SuperEngineerlol17:22
White_Lightnot joking17:22
SuperEngineerthen please explain - who do you mean when you say "ubuntu"?17:23
White_Lightregarding mate, I do hope there is a way to change the lockscreen eventually17:23
White_Lightthe channel on freenode17:23
SuperEngineerhmmm... are asking a question that somebody cannot answer on that channel, I wonder.  ...or asking & not being patient enough17:25
White_Lightwell it was more asking if anyone else had had issues with 16.04 in general17:25
SuperEngineer*are you17:25
White_Lightsince I'd imagine most people here are on 16.04 mate17:25
White_LightI don't expect help with that issue, just wondering if others are having problems17:25
SuperEngineerhmmmmmmm17:25
SuperEngineerok, keep in mind that not only uk users use channels - perhaps ask at different times of the day? or ask on various other hannels?  Somewhere , there is probably someone experiencing the same problems as yourself.17:28
White_Lightno, I do not have hope that it will ever be fixed by me reporting it - it will be fixed when they release a hardware enablement update and get off 4.417:29
SuperEngineerhave you tried installing other kernels?17:29
White_Lightyes, I'm using 4.5.7 which has resolved it17:30
White_Light4.6.6 and 4.7.0 also resolved it - yet don't work with nvidia-361 currently17:31
SuperEngineerThen you have surely resolved your own problem.  For every kernel to match every setup and yet squash every bug and security hole would be like expecting windows 10 to respect one's privacy.17:34
White_Lightwell the problem is that there were no issues on 3.13, 3.18, 4.2, or the ones mentioned before17:35
White_Lightand this is a motherboard from 2012 - hardly bleeding edge17:36
alkisgWhite_Light: for kernel issues, try in #ubuntu-kernel. Be prepared to wait for hours, even days for answers, but from very knowledgable persons17:46
nico995hello.. is it possible to use miracast on ubuntu mate? (my wireless display is a smart TV)17:50
ouroumovif it's possible to use it on ubuntu 16.04 then yes17:54
nico995mmh and is it possible?17:55
koppeinesseler grunzig gruppe17:57
SuperEngineernico995: just a thought - try it out using a live disc.  I have no idea, however, whether my idea is feasible.18:02
SuperEngineer* live USB [so you could load stuff to it]18:03
nico995I heard of aethercast and miraclecast, but with no success18:19
=== YDU_away is now known as YankDownUnder
renihi guys18:50
renii have a problem with the new 16.04 <ubuntu Version and the broadcom wifi chip18:51
reniit was disabled after the last update18:52
Akulimaybe the drivers tab in software and updates?18:55
renithe additional drivers are enabled, but it doesnt18:58
reniwork18:58
Akulii'd just install 14.0418:59
Akulibut there's probably a better way to fix your driver issues if you want to stick with 16.0418:59
renithats why I'm here1119:01
reni^^19:01
milesgI just had a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE, I can't connect to WiFi, but I can connect to ethernet, I did not have this problem on regular Ubuntu. I am using 16.04 LTS.19:32
Akulimilesg, i think reni is having the same problem19:33
Akuli<reni> i have a problem with the new 16.04 <ubuntu Version and the broadcom wifi chip19:33
milesgI have a broadcom too.19:33
milesgI also had this problem on openSUSE.19:34
Akulithen its not specific to ubuntu mate19:34
Akulimaybe you just need to install the driver?19:34
milesgWell, it is not about openSUSE.19:35
milesgIt is about MATE.19:35
Akulii think you mean ubuntu mate, mate is a desktop19:35
Akulianyway19:35
Akulisudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer19:35
milesgYeah, I do.19:35
Akuliif you still have a problem i have no idea what to do19:35
milesgOkay.19:35
Akulireni19:36
Akuliyou could try that too19:36
pavlosmilesg, check System | Software & Updates, addl drivers ...19:36
milesgIt says no additional drivers available.19:37
Akulithen its not detecting your wifi card19:37
pavlosmilesg, what's the wifi chipset?19:38
milesgWell, during installation I did the option Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu MATE.19:38
milesgSo...19:38
Akulimilesg, inxi -Nn19:38
milesgOh.19:39
milesgIt said my driver19:39
milesgSo do I do apt-get install and then driver name?19:39
Akuliwhat is your driver name?19:39
milesgbcma-pci-bridge19:40
Akuliinxi might be showing your wired connection driver19:40
Akulialso, i can't find anything from the repos by searching for bcma-pci-bridge19:41
milesgIt is definitely my wireless card.19:41
Akulirun this: inxi -Nn | nc termbin.com 999919:41
pavlosmilesg, lsusb should lists the wifi card19:41
Akulii want to see the full output19:41
pavloslist19:41
milesgOh.19:41
Akulilsusb | nc termbin.com 999919:42
Akuliwe also want that19:42
milesgThere is no lsusb when I type inxi -Nn19:42
Akulino, its another command19:42
milesgoh19:42
milesgi typed lsusb19:42
Akuliyou@yourbox:~$ lsusb19:42
milesgWhat am I looking for?19:43
Akulirun this: lsusb | nc termbin.com 999919:43
Akulithen give us a link to it, so we'll see the full output19:43
milesgWHen I ran your command it gave me a link19:44
Akulipaste it here19:44
milesghttp://termbin.com/4s1x19:44
Akuliweird, lsusb only says its something from broadcom19:44
Akulii dont know what to do :) i have a thinkpad and my drivers just work19:45
milesgWell.19:45
milesgI erased my entire disk.19:45
milesgAnd install UM.19:45
milesgIn the installation.19:45
Akulithat has nothing to do with driver issues19:46
milesgOh.19:46
milesgShould I install Ubuntu and then the MATE desktop?19:47
pavlostry lsusb -v | nc termbin.com 999 and give us the link19:47
milesgOkay.19:47
Akuli999919:47
Akulinot 99919:47
pavlosoops19:47
Akuliwell at least that command is verbose19:47
milesgIt said "Couldn't find device. some information is messing.", but it gave me the link.19:48
Akulioh19:48
pavlosand the link is ...19:48
milesghttp://termbin.com/wvlg19:48
Akulithen you want to also redirect the errors there19:48
Akulilsusb -v 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999919:49
Akuliif you want to just send us everything19:49
milesgokay19:50
milesghere is the link for that19:50
milesghttp://termbin.com/uc7m19:50
Akulipavlos, have fun reading the links19:50
Akuli:D19:50
pavlostrying to search using the device ID ...19:51
pavlos0a5c:216d Broadcom19:51
milesgSo what do we do with that information?19:52
Akulii have no idea19:52
pavlosmilesg, can you tell us the laptop model etc ... the wifi card you have should have reported its id19:53
pavlosmilesg, try this ... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras linux-firmware-nonfree broadcom-kernel-source, reboot and check if it sees the wifi card19:58
milesgI have an HP 17z20:00
milesgwhew20:00
milesgOkay20:00
milesgIt says it is unable to locate the packages.20:01
Akuliwhich one of them?20:02
Akuliby the way, have you updated your system after installing?20:02
Akulisudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade20:02
milesgIt said all of the packages.20:02
Akulithen its weird.20:02
milesgIt is updating.20:03
Akuliactually20:03
Akuliyou don't need the upgrade thing if you just want to get your driver working, but you should run it anyway at some point20:03
milesgI have to go soon.20:04
pavlosafter it's done, look at System | Software & Updates, first tab the first 4 checks should be ON20:04
Akulii've uninstalled that :D20:04
Akulii always upgrade my system on the terminal20:04
pavlosthe 3rd tab should have 1,2,4 ON20:04
Akulimilesg, you can come back here later and continue where you left :)20:05
pavlosthen in Addl drivers you should see a broadcom driver and apply20:05
milesgOkay20:05
milesgIT FOUND IT20:06
milesgYES20:06
pavlosgood20:06
milesgThanks so much guys!20:06
Akuliwell that was easier than we thought it was20:06
pavlosAkuli, strange that lsusb does not report bcmxxxxxx20:07
milesgWell, bye guys. Thanks for the help.20:08
pavlosnp20:08
janikovicshi20:14
janikovicswine help ???20:14
Akuliwine is like this: your program either works or it doesn't work.20:14
DarkPsydeLordhi!20:30
rahtgazhello DarkPsydeLord20:50
mate|46791hi mate users20:52
DarkPsydeLordrahtgaz: hi how are you20:52
mate|46791fine20:53
mate|46791are you a bot20:53
DarkPsydeLordi am how do you know?20:53
DarkPsydeLordis that obvious20:53
mate|46791ooo man it was  too many years aga when I used IRC20:54
mate|46791coool20:54
DarkPsydeLordthen you should start by get a proper nickname so register yourself at freenode20:55
DarkPsydeLord:)20:55
* mate|46791 is remembering the past20:56
rahtgazdoing fine Dark, thank you. You?20:58
DarkPsydeLordwell just watching the pursuit comp at the olympics20:58
DarkPsydeLordnice20:58
rahtgazi'm following almost nothing this year. I'm a big fan of the event, but this time it caught me swamped with work21:00
DarkPsydeLordunlucky21:02
DarkPsydeLordmy country is doing great we have a lot of medals this year21:02
DarkPsydeLordmate|46791: so... can we help you bring back the past?21:03
rahtgazhe's left21:03
vENZii am back with new nick21:05
vENZi..... or old nick21:05
vENZilike many years ago with a modem connection21:06
DarkPsydeLordvENZi: wb!21:06
DarkPsydeLordo you cant miss dial up21:06
DarkPsydeLordat all21:06
DarkPsydeLordthis is much better21:06
DarkPsydeLordrahtgaz: btw this is the first olympics im proud of my country we almost made it in every competition21:07
rahtgazI miss the dialup modem connect sound21:07
DarkPsydeLordo well the sound was unique21:07
rahtgazwhat's the country?21:07
DarkPsydeLordbut speed sucked hard21:07
DarkPsydeLordspecially to download 4k movies21:07
DarkPsydeLordMEXICO!21:07
vENZioooo 4k was not possible21:08
DarkPsydeLordwe dont have any gold medal21:08
vENZiyou will drop every one minute21:08
DarkPsydeLordbut silver medals21:08
DarkPsydeLordwell 021:08
DarkPsydeLordbut bronce medals21:08
DarkPsydeLordo well 0 also21:08
DarkPsydeLordbut we almost had one21:08
DarkPsydeLord:)21:08
DarkPsydeLordso proud21:08
DarkPsydeLordvENZi: thats why we used download managers back in time so we can resume our downloads21:09
vENZiyeahhh fileZilaaaa21:09
rahtgazI'm not sure how we are doing right now. But last week we got Bronze on female Judo. We should pick a couple of gold stars on rowing and triple-jump. At least I'm hoping21:09
vENZihahaha21:09
vENZiI forgot it21:09
DarkPsydeLordrahtgaz: this is complete irony we used to be strong at marathon, boxing, diving21:11
DarkPsydeLordnow our athletes refused to go to the olympics cause the goverment tried to charge the cost of the uniforms and travel to em21:11
DarkPsydeLordthen they decided to go as independant athletes21:12
rahtgazYeah, I remember you guys especially at the marathon. I'm from Portugal, so if your memory is good enough, you'll remember we used to compete each other hard, before the Africans took over21:12
DarkPsydeLordbut goverment tried to ban em21:12
DarkPsydeLordso they forfeit21:12
DarkPsydeLordrahtgaz: o yeah africans are unbeatable now21:13
rahtgazsheesh! fucking governments. What's with these people...21:13
DarkPsydeLordvENZi: so why you decide to give irc a cance again21:13
vENZino , I think it is the best platform for communication21:14
vENZibut my ubuntu mate has integrated link to here21:14
vENZibut my ubuntu mate has integrated link to here:)21:14
DarkPsydeLord:)21:15
vENZiI like it21:15
DarkPsydeLord! welcome vENZi21:16
DarkPsydeLordXD21:16
vENZithe mate , but i have some problem with keyboard shotcut , cannot set it to change language only with CTRL + SHIFT ?21:16
DarkPsydeLordrahtgaz: i know we have a specially corrupt gov here21:16
pavlosvENZi, in the keyboard layout there is an option to switch layouts using control shift. I just tested it.21:20
vENZiit does not work for me ? I install mate over existing ubuntu 16.0421:20
vENZimaybe this is the problem somehow ?21:21
rahtgazdo you have conky enabled?21:21
rahtgazor rather, are other keyboard shortcuts working normally?21:22
pavlosthere should be only ONE checkbox in the switch to another layout21:22
pavlosI had alt shift, changed to control shift (3rd checkbox), close, close, it worked.21:23
vENZiwhat is conky ?21:23
vENZiok I will double check it ..21:23
rahtgazif you ask you don't have it :p21:23
pavloslight system monitor21:24
vENZiThe following additional packages will be installed:21:25
vENZi  conky-std liblua5.1-021:25
rahtgazCTRL+SHIFT is perhaps not the best of shortcuts anyway. It will interfere with your terminal ability to copy/paste. I have changed mine to left + right shift21:25
rahtgazwhy are you installing it?21:25
vENZipavlos ask me21:26
rahtgazI'm pretty sure he didn't21:27
pavlosvENZi, nope rahtgaz mentioned21:27
vENZiok :)21:27
rahtgazyou are on the fast track to bork your linux system if you don't pay attention, mate. Especially when you have already installed MATE on top of Unity21:28
vENZibut it does not work for me changing with ctrl shift and if I change keyboard manualy with the mouse I cannot write in my language21:29
vENZishit ... maybe I will return to unity again to fix it21:29
rahtgazprobably its for the best21:30
vENZiyeah man but I don't want to reinstall all21:30
vENZiyeah21:30
vENZimate will loose me21:30
rahtgazthat's ok. MATE has no feelings21:30
vENZiye thats right21:31
rahtgazI don't know who told him it was ok to install MATE on top of Unity. I see that advise often, and it's not a good advise. It will work for some, it will not work for many. Canonical Unity is not the gentle DE it used to be. It's best left alone.21:33
rahtgazBesides, It's Ubuntu. If I have another DE why not make my life easy and just get one of the derivatives21:33
pavlosmaybe he needed to install Language support from the System menu21:46
ubuntu-matehey22:31
ubuntu-mateanybody here?22:32
bekksAccording to "/names" - yes.22:33
ubuntu-mateanybody online that actively chats here? (excluding bekks)22:35
pavloswhy exclude bekks?22:37
bekksBecause that is a pointless poll :P22:38
pavlosoh22:38
thulioeae23:37
thuliogalero23:37

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!