[00:45] <nico995> hello.. I was wondering if the loss of decorations with compiz is due to my pc or a bug to fix
[00:50] <mate|30412> Hello!
[00:50] <mate|30412> I have a laptop on which I already have Windows 8.1 installed.
[00:51] <mate|30412> I would like to install Ubuntu Mate in parallel, but it is very important that the Windows installation doesn't break.
[00:52] <mate|30412> The installer reads something along the lines of: you have booted in UEFI mode and are going to install Ubuntu MATE in UEFI mode, but you have another operating system installed in compatibility mode. If you continue, you may encounter problems in booting the other Operating Systems.
[00:52] <mate|30412> What should I do about this?
[01:01] <nico995> i'm here again, sorry
[05:14] <edbiker> hi
[07:51] <serkan_> arkadaşlar kilit ekranındayken sanal klavye kulanımı nasıl oluyor
[07:51] <serkan_> bilen var mı
[07:52] <serkan_> Türk var mı
[08:37] <SImpleXM> Anyone here knows if its possible to get a better performance when VNC into ubuntu mate running on a pi ?
[09:07] <angelo_> hello.
[09:11]  * pavlushka looking with diluted eyes.
[09:13] <gordonjcp> SImpleXM: why are you using VNC?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> SImpleXM: if you absolutely have to use a GUI app remotely
[09:13] <SImpleXM> Do not have a spare monitor luying around
[09:14] <gordonjcp> which is pretty ibssne
[09:14] <gordonjcp> *insane
[09:14] <gordonjcp> you could just forward X
[09:14] <SImpleXM> forward X ?
[09:14] <gordonjcp> which is kind of the whole point of X
[09:15] <gordonjcp> ssh in and set DISPLAY to your desktop mschinr's ip addy
[09:16] <SImpleXM> would you happen to know a guide for that ? how would I set the display
[09:35] <gordonjcp> SImpleXM: google :-) i don't have web acxess at the noment
[09:37] <gordonjcp> something like $ DISPLAY=<ip address> <command>
[09:37] <gordonjcp> all on one line
[09:37] <gordonjcp> you might look into x forwarding over ssh too
[10:36] <SImpleXM> what is the difference between, DISPLAY=192.168.1.10:0;export DISPLAY;xterm & and DISPLAY=192.168.1.10:0;xterm &
[10:37] <SImpleXM> so without the "export DISPLAY"
[10:40] <chappie> hey
[10:40] <chappie> anyone is here
[10:42] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[10:43] <chappie> hi
[11:46] <chappie> hi everyone
[17:05] <bvnaik> have installed ubuntu mate on rpi3, and connected via HDMI, but it seems that HDMI screen goes blank for a few seconds whenever i open a new app or something, pls help in sorting this issue
[17:14] <SuperEngineer> ermmm... your pi is thinking "now you want me to do what!?"
[17:17] <bvnaik> so is it power supply not being adequate?
[17:17] <bvnaik> how shall i correct screen blanking
[17:19] <White_Light> has anyone else has terrible experiences with 16.04?
[17:19]  * SuperEngineer telepathically connects to bvnaik's power supply to ask it if is adequate [or whether it needs a therapist] ;-)
[17:19] <White_Light> had*
[17:20] <SuperEngineer> White_Light: none hear [sorry, but pleased to report zero probs here]
[17:20] <White_Light> 4.4 ubuntu kernel is throwing sata errors for my ssd only at boot (MX300), yet on 4.5, 4.6, 4.7 have no issues
[17:21] <White_Light> there's no hope of filing bugs dude - there's been problem even joining domains that have known fixes in fedora yet take 4+ months to even get looked at
[17:21] <SuperEngineer> then is it a kernel issue, not U-Mate issue?
[17:22] <White_Light> yeah it's not a mate issue at all, but it's hopeless talking in ubuntu
[17:22] <SuperEngineer> lol
[17:22] <White_Light> not joking
[17:23] <SuperEngineer> then please explain - who do you mean when you say "ubuntu"?
[17:23] <White_Light> regarding mate, I do hope there is a way to change the lockscreen eventually
[17:23] <White_Light> the channel on freenode
[17:25] <SuperEngineer> hmmm... are asking a question that somebody cannot answer on that channel, I wonder.  ...or asking & not being patient enough
[17:25] <White_Light> well it was more asking if anyone else had had issues with 16.04 in general
[17:25] <SuperEngineer> *are you
[17:25] <White_Light> since I'd imagine most people here are on 16.04 mate
[17:25] <White_Light> I don't expect help with that issue, just wondering if others are having problems
[17:25] <SuperEngineer> hmmmmmmm
[17:28] <SuperEngineer> ok, keep in mind that not only uk users use channels - perhaps ask at different times of the day? or ask on various other hannels?  Somewhere , there is probably someone experiencing the same problems as yourself.
[17:29] <White_Light> no, I do not have hope that it will ever be fixed by me reporting it - it will be fixed when they release a hardware enablement update and get off 4.4
[17:29] <SuperEngineer> have you tried installing other kernels?
[17:30] <White_Light> yes, I'm using 4.5.7 which has resolved it
[17:31] <White_Light> 4.6.6 and 4.7.0 also resolved it - yet don't work with nvidia-361 currently
[17:34] <SuperEngineer> Then you have surely resolved your own problem.  For every kernel to match every setup and yet squash every bug and security hole would be like expecting windows 10 to respect one's privacy.
[17:35] <White_Light> well the problem is that there were no issues on 3.13, 3.18, 4.2, or the ones mentioned before
[17:36] <White_Light> and this is a motherboard from 2012 - hardly bleeding edge
[17:46] <alkisg> White_Light: for kernel issues, try in #ubuntu-kernel. Be prepared to wait for hours, even days for answers, but from very knowledgable persons
[17:50] <nico995> hello.. is it possible to use miracast on ubuntu mate? (my wireless display is a smart TV)
[17:54] <ouroumov> if it's possible to use it on ubuntu 16.04 then yes
[17:55] <nico995> mmh and is it possible?
[17:57] <koppei> nesseler grunzig gruppe
[18:02] <SuperEngineer> nico995: just a thought - try it out using a live disc.  I have no idea, however, whether my idea is feasible.
[18:03] <SuperEngineer> * live USB [so you could load stuff to it]
[18:19] <nico995> I heard of aethercast and miraclecast, but with no success
[18:50] <reni> hi guys
[18:51] <reni> i have a problem with the new 16.04 <ubuntu Version and the broadcom wifi chip
[18:52] <reni> it was disabled after the last update
[18:55] <Akuli> maybe the drivers tab in software and updates?
[18:58] <reni> the additional drivers are enabled, but it doesnt
[18:58] <reni> work
[18:59] <Akuli> i'd just install 14.04
[18:59] <Akuli> but there's probably a better way to fix your driver issues if you want to stick with 16.04
[19:01] <reni> thats why I'm here11
[19:01] <reni> ^^
[19:32] <milesg> I just had a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE, I can't connect to WiFi, but I can connect to ethernet, I did not have this problem on regular Ubuntu. I am using 16.04 LTS.
[19:33] <Akuli> milesg, i think reni is having the same problem
 i have a problem with the new 16.04 <ubuntu Version and the broadcom wifi chip
[19:33] <milesg> I have a broadcom too.
[19:34] <milesg> I also had this problem on openSUSE.
[19:34] <Akuli> then its not specific to ubuntu mate
[19:34] <Akuli> maybe you just need to install the driver?
[19:35] <milesg> Well, it is not about openSUSE.
[19:35] <milesg> It is about MATE.
[19:35] <Akuli> i think you mean ubuntu mate, mate is a desktop
[19:35] <Akuli> anyway
[19:35] <Akuli> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[19:35] <milesg> Yeah, I do.
[19:35] <Akuli> if you still have a problem i have no idea what to do
[19:35] <milesg> Okay.
[19:36] <Akuli> reni
[19:36] <Akuli> you could try that too
[19:36] <pavlos> milesg, check System | Software & Updates, addl drivers ...
[19:37] <milesg> It says no additional drivers available.
[19:37] <Akuli> then its not detecting your wifi card
[19:38] <pavlos> milesg, what's the wifi chipset?
[19:38] <milesg> Well, during installation I did the option Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu MATE.
[19:38] <milesg> So...
[19:38] <Akuli> milesg, inxi -Nn
[19:39] <milesg> Oh.
[19:39] <milesg> It said my driver
[19:39] <milesg> So do I do apt-get install and then driver name?
[19:39] <Akuli> what is your driver name?
[19:40] <milesg> bcma-pci-bridge
[19:40] <Akuli> inxi might be showing your wired connection driver
[19:41] <Akuli> also, i can't find anything from the repos by searching for bcma-pci-bridge
[19:41] <milesg> It is definitely my wireless card.
[19:41] <Akuli> run this: inxi -Nn | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:41] <pavlos> milesg, lsusb should lists the wifi card
[19:41] <Akuli> i want to see the full output
[19:41] <pavlos> list
[19:41] <milesg> Oh.
[19:42] <Akuli> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:42] <Akuli> we also want that
[19:42] <milesg> There is no lsusb when I type inxi -Nn
[19:42] <Akuli> no, its another command
[19:42] <milesg> oh
[19:42] <milesg> i typed lsusb
[19:42] <Akuli> you@yourbox:~$ lsusb
[19:43] <milesg> What am I looking for?
[19:43] <Akuli> run this: lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:43] <Akuli> then give us a link to it, so we'll see the full output
[19:44] <milesg> WHen I ran your command it gave me a link
[19:44] <Akuli> paste it here
[19:44] <milesg> http://termbin.com/4s1x
[19:44] <Akuli> weird, lsusb only says its something from broadcom
[19:45] <Akuli> i dont know what to do :) i have a thinkpad and my drivers just work
[19:45] <milesg> Well.
[19:45] <milesg> I erased my entire disk.
[19:45] <milesg> And install UM.
[19:45] <milesg> In the installation.
[19:46] <Akuli> that has nothing to do with driver issues
[19:46] <milesg> Oh.
[19:47] <milesg> Should I install Ubuntu and then the MATE desktop?
[19:47] <pavlos> try lsusb -v | nc termbin.com 999 and give us the link
[19:47] <milesg> Okay.
[19:47] <Akuli> 9999
[19:47] <Akuli> not 999
[19:47] <pavlos> oops
[19:47] <Akuli> well at least that command is verbose
[19:48] <milesg> It said "Couldn't find device. some information is messing.", but it gave me the link.
[19:48] <Akuli> oh
[19:48] <pavlos> and the link is ...
[19:48] <milesg> http://termbin.com/wvlg
[19:48] <Akuli> then you want to also redirect the errors there
[19:49] <Akuli> lsusb -v 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:49] <Akuli> if you want to just send us everything
[19:50] <milesg> okay
[19:50] <milesg> here is the link for that
[19:50] <milesg> http://termbin.com/uc7m
[19:50] <Akuli> pavlos, have fun reading the links
[19:50] <Akuli> :D
[19:51] <pavlos> trying to search using the device ID ...
[19:51] <pavlos> 0a5c:216d Broadcom
[19:52] <milesg> So what do we do with that information?
[19:52] <Akuli> i have no idea
[19:53] <pavlos> milesg, can you tell us the laptop model etc ... the wifi card you have should have reported its id
[19:58] <pavlos> milesg, try this ... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras linux-firmware-nonfree broadcom-kernel-source, reboot and check if it sees the wifi card
[20:00] <milesg> I have an HP 17z
[20:00] <milesg> whew
[20:00] <milesg> Okay
[20:01] <milesg> It says it is unable to locate the packages.
[20:02] <Akuli> which one of them?
[20:02] <Akuli> by the way, have you updated your system after installing?
[20:02] <Akuli> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:02] <milesg> It said all of the packages.
[20:02] <Akuli> then its weird.
[20:03] <milesg> It is updating.
[20:03] <Akuli> actually
[20:03] <Akuli> you don't need the upgrade thing if you just want to get your driver working, but you should run it anyway at some point
[20:04] <milesg> I have to go soon.
[20:04] <pavlos> after it's done, look at System | Software & Updates, first tab the first 4 checks should be ON
[20:04] <Akuli> i've uninstalled that :D
[20:04] <Akuli> i always upgrade my system on the terminal
[20:04] <pavlos> the 3rd tab should have 1,2,4 ON
[20:05] <Akuli> milesg, you can come back here later and continue where you left :)
[20:05] <pavlos> then in Addl drivers you should see a broadcom driver and apply
[20:05] <milesg> Okay
[20:06] <milesg> IT FOUND IT
[20:06] <milesg> YES
[20:06] <pavlos> good
[20:06] <milesg> Thanks so much guys!
[20:06] <Akuli> well that was easier than we thought it was
[20:07] <pavlos> Akuli, strange that lsusb does not report bcmxxxxxx
[20:08] <milesg> Well, bye guys. Thanks for the help.
[20:08] <pavlos> np
[20:14] <janikovics> hi
[20:14] <janikovics> wine help ???
[20:14] <Akuli> wine is like this: your program either works or it doesn't work.
[20:30] <DarkPsydeLord> hi!
[20:50] <rahtgaz> hello DarkPsydeLord
[20:52] <mate|46791> hi mate users
[20:52] <DarkPsydeLord> rahtgaz: hi how are you
[20:53] <mate|46791> fine
[20:53] <mate|46791> are you a bot
[20:53] <DarkPsydeLord> i am how do you know?
[20:53] <DarkPsydeLord> is that obvious
[20:54] <mate|46791> ooo man it was  too many years aga when I used IRC
[20:54] <mate|46791> coool
[20:55] <DarkPsydeLord> then you should start by get a proper nickname so register yourself at freenode
[20:55] <DarkPsydeLord> :)
[20:56]  * mate|46791 is remembering the past
[20:58] <rahtgaz> doing fine Dark, thank you. You?
[20:58] <DarkPsydeLord> well just watching the pursuit comp at the olympics
[20:58] <DarkPsydeLord> nice
[21:00] <rahtgaz> i'm following almost nothing this year. I'm a big fan of the event, but this time it caught me swamped with work
[21:02] <DarkPsydeLord> unlucky
[21:02] <DarkPsydeLord> my country is doing great we have a lot of medals this year
[21:03] <DarkPsydeLord> mate|46791: so... can we help you bring back the past?
[21:03] <rahtgaz> he's left
[21:05] <vENZi> i am back with new nick
[21:05] <vENZi> ..... or old nick
[21:06] <vENZi> like many years ago with a modem connection
[21:06] <DarkPsydeLord> vENZi: wb!
[21:06] <DarkPsydeLord> o you cant miss dial up
[21:06] <DarkPsydeLord> at all
[21:06] <DarkPsydeLord> this is much better
[21:07] <DarkPsydeLord> rahtgaz: btw this is the first olympics im proud of my country we almost made it in every competition
[21:07] <rahtgaz> I miss the dialup modem connect sound
[21:07] <DarkPsydeLord> o well the sound was unique
[21:07] <rahtgaz> what's the country?
[21:07] <DarkPsydeLord> but speed sucked hard
[21:07] <DarkPsydeLord> specially to download 4k movies
[21:07] <DarkPsydeLord> MEXICO!
[21:08] <vENZi> oooo 4k was not possible
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> we dont have any gold medal
[21:08] <vENZi> you will drop every one minute
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> but silver medals
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> well 0
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> but bronce medals
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> o well 0 also
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> but we almost had one
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> :)
[21:08] <DarkPsydeLord> so proud
[21:09] <DarkPsydeLord> vENZi: thats why we used download managers back in time so we can resume our downloads
[21:09] <vENZi> yeahhh fileZilaaaa
[21:09] <rahtgaz> I'm not sure how we are doing right now. But last week we got Bronze on female Judo. We should pick a couple of gold stars on rowing and triple-jump. At least I'm hoping
[21:09] <vENZi> hahaha
[21:09] <vENZi> I forgot it
[21:11] <DarkPsydeLord> rahtgaz: this is complete irony we used to be strong at marathon, boxing, diving
[21:11] <DarkPsydeLord> now our athletes refused to go to the olympics cause the goverment tried to charge the cost of the uniforms and travel to em
[21:12] <DarkPsydeLord> then they decided to go as independant athletes
[21:12] <rahtgaz> Yeah, I remember you guys especially at the marathon. I'm from Portugal, so if your memory is good enough, you'll remember we used to compete each other hard, before the Africans took over
[21:12] <DarkPsydeLord> but goverment tried to ban em
[21:12] <DarkPsydeLord> so they forfeit
[21:13] <DarkPsydeLord> rahtgaz: o yeah africans are unbeatable now
[21:13] <rahtgaz> sheesh! fucking governments. What's with these people...
[21:13] <DarkPsydeLord> vENZi: so why you decide to give irc a cance again
[21:14] <vENZi> no , I think it is the best platform for communication
[21:14] <vENZi> but my ubuntu mate has integrated link to here
[21:14] <vENZi> but my ubuntu mate has integrated link to here:)
[21:15] <DarkPsydeLord> :)
[21:15] <vENZi> I like it
[21:16] <DarkPsydeLord> ! welcome vENZi
[21:16] <DarkPsydeLord> XD
[21:16] <vENZi> the mate , but i have some problem with keyboard shotcut , cannot set it to change language only with CTRL + SHIFT ?
[21:16] <DarkPsydeLord> rahtgaz: i know we have a specially corrupt gov here
[21:20] <pavlos> vENZi, in the keyboard layout there is an option to switch layouts using control shift. I just tested it.
[21:20] <vENZi> it does not work for me ? I install mate over existing ubuntu 16.04
[21:21] <vENZi> maybe this is the problem somehow ?
[21:21] <rahtgaz> do you have conky enabled?
[21:22] <rahtgaz> or rather, are other keyboard shortcuts working normally?
[21:22] <pavlos> there should be only ONE checkbox in the switch to another layout
[21:23] <pavlos> I had alt shift, changed to control shift (3rd checkbox), close, close, it worked.
[21:23] <vENZi> what is conky ?
[21:23] <vENZi> ok I will double check it ..
[21:23] <rahtgaz> if you ask you don't have it :p
[21:24] <pavlos> light system monitor
[21:25] <vENZi> The following additional packages will be installed:
[21:25] <vENZi>   conky-std liblua5.1-0
[21:25] <rahtgaz> CTRL+SHIFT is perhaps not the best of shortcuts anyway. It will interfere with your terminal ability to copy/paste. I have changed mine to left + right shift
[21:25] <rahtgaz> why are you installing it?
[21:26] <vENZi> pavlos ask me
[21:27] <rahtgaz> I'm pretty sure he didn't
[21:27] <pavlos> vENZi, nope rahtgaz mentioned
[21:27] <vENZi> ok :)
[21:28] <rahtgaz> you are on the fast track to bork your linux system if you don't pay attention, mate. Especially when you have already installed MATE on top of Unity
[21:29] <vENZi> but it does not work for me changing with ctrl shift and if I change keyboard manualy with the mouse I cannot write in my language
[21:29] <vENZi> shit ... maybe I will return to unity again to fix it
[21:30] <rahtgaz> probably its for the best
[21:30] <vENZi> yeah man but I don't want to reinstall all
[21:30] <vENZi> yeah
[21:30] <vENZi> mate will loose me
[21:30] <rahtgaz> that's ok. MATE has no feelings
[21:31] <vENZi> ye thats right
[21:33] <rahtgaz> I don't know who told him it was ok to install MATE on top of Unity. I see that advise often, and it's not a good advise. It will work for some, it will not work for many. Canonical Unity is not the gentle DE it used to be. It's best left alone.
[21:33] <rahtgaz> Besides, It's Ubuntu. If I have another DE why not make my life easy and just get one of the derivatives
[21:46] <pavlos> maybe he needed to install Language support from the System menu
[22:31] <ubuntu-mate> hey
[22:32] <ubuntu-mate> anybody here?
[22:33] <bekks> According to "/names" - yes.
[22:35] <ubuntu-mate> anybody online that actively chats here? (excluding bekks)
[22:37] <pavlos> why exclude bekks?
[22:38] <bekks> Because that is a pointless poll :P
[22:38] <pavlos> oh
[23:37] <thulio> eae
[23:37] <thulio> galero