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superflyMaaz: tell Kilos good morning 03:44
Maazsuperfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode03:44
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magespawngood morning05:53
pavlushkaMorning magespawn !06:26
pavlushkaahoy ZA!06:26
Kilosmorning everyone06:48
MaazKilos: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell Kilos good morning" 3 hours, 3 minutes and 44 seconds ago06:48
Kilosmorning superfly inetpro and ll lurkers06:49
Kilosall06:49
Symmetriasup :)07:06
* Symmetria is a happy man :P07:06
ra1v3nMorning08:51
Kiloshi ra1v3n 08:51
ra1v3nhow are you Kilos 08:53
Kilosok ty and you08:53
ra1v3nI'm good 08:54
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magespawncaht later, home time13:24
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Kiloshellooooo za peeps16:04
Kiloscan you guys please say this bug affects you as well so its priority can grow16:07
Kiloshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/spreadubuntu/+bug/141435916:08
Kilossuperfly 16:08
artshey Everyone!16:50
Kiloshi arts 16:53
Kiloswhat broke16:53
artsnothing hahahahahahahahahahahahaha16:53
Kiloslol16:54
Kilosok what doesnt work16:54
artseverything is ok :P16:54
artsfor once16:54
Kilosyay16:54
Kilosand you are here16:54
Kiloswoooot16:54
artshows things your side16:55
Kilosalive and fighting with crashed LoCo teams16:55
artscrashed?16:55
Kilosyeah they kinda fall apart16:55
artswhats a LoCo team?16:56
Kilosirc channels are empty and lists applicants dont get approved etc16:56
Kiloslocal commu nity 16:56
Kiloseach country has one or more16:56
Symmetria*sigh*16:56
artsok cool!16:57
Kiloslike we are the ubuntu-za loco16:57
SymmetriaI'm busy writing an RFI document to find someone who can supply me decent V6 capable CPE routers 16:57
Symmetriathat or I need to build a customized version of openwrt or something that does what I want 16:57
theblazehenSymmetria: That being ipv6?17:08
Symmetriayeah but ipv6 with a bunch of features17:14
artsKilos, you there?17:32
Kilosyessir17:32
Kilosoh no17:32
Kilosim here not there17:32
Kilosarts ^^17:36
Kiloswhy are we waiting17:36
artshahahahaha17:36
Kiloshehe17:36
artshow do i add another username to my IRC account?17:36
Kilosyou use group17:36
Kilosum17:37
Kilos   /msg nickserv help17:37
Kilosiirc you change your nick to the new one here then do /msg nickserv group nick17:41
artshow do I switch usernames?17:42
Kilos  /nick newname17:42
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calhaxthat was easy17:42
calhaxthanks Kilos 17:43
Kilosyou welcome17:43
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SEpticey ppl18:44
calhaxey SEptic 18:46
SEptichi calhax18:46
calhaxhows things SEptic 18:47
Kiloshi SEptic 18:47
Kiloscalhax why you dropped arts18:48
SEptichey Kilos18:48
Kilosarts is a cool nick18:48
SEpticag ja so so hey18:48
Kilosthat doesnt sound good SEptic 18:48
calhaxI still have it :P just wanted this one aswell18:48
Kiloshehe18:49
SEptici've been working 7 days a week since january 1st and pretty much every evening too, today was my first proper off day18:50
Kiloswow18:51
calhaxSEptic's day off - starting SEptic 18:51
SEptici've become a different person, realised that today, not good18:52
SEpticanywho18:52
SEpticmy ubuntu server skillz are getting there18:52
calhax8 months of straight work will do that to ya LOL18:53
SEpticnfs vs samba? thoughts any1?18:53
Kilosthe more experience you get the easier things become18:53
theblazehenSEptic: nfs for linux / unix clients18:55
theblazehenAlthough different uses IMO18:55
theblazehensamba for users18:55
theblazehennfs for os stuff18:55
theblazehenBut that's just my feeling18:55
SEptici get mixed feeling off the net on speeds, some say its dependant on network / devices etc18:56
SEpticwindows cannot talk nfs ye?18:56
theblazehenSEptic: Need to install feature, but it can18:59
SEpticaah ok cool19:01
SEptici'm more tending towards nfs, i guess the further away from windows the happier i am19:02
SEptica couple weeks ago we got nailed by ransomware19:02
pavlushkaGood night Guys!19:10
Kiloshi captine 19:11
theblazehenSEptic: Well, it does all the fancy ACLs etc19:18
theblazehenBut you need a UID mapper, or users need to share unix uid and gids on client and server19:19
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:19
theblazehennight Kilos19:19
SEpticnight19:19
SEptichmm i see19:20
SEptici've got samba down to a T, nfs haven't used19:22
SEpticlemme play with it and see how it goes :)19:25
theblazehenyeah19:29
theblazehenLook at nfs ganesha for a userspace implementation19:29
theblazehenAnd have you seen glusterfs, moosefs, ceph (Both block store and ceph fs) yet?19:30
theblazehenSEptic: ^19:30
SEpticcool, thanks, looking now19:31
captinetheblazehen, so many things to learn.... no time to learn them. :(19:32
theblazehenCeph even has a pretty web interface19:32
theblazehencaptine: That's what coffee's for19:32
theblazehenWell, web interface if you use it on rhel19:32
captinelol.  coffee isnt enough for my day job.. let alone my tech hobby19:43
calhaxLOL19:53
theblazehencaptine: Meth?19:59
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calhaxwhats is your perfered programming language for web apps?20:04
SEpticnight all20:04
theblazehencheers SEptic20:06
theblazehencalhax: don't do much web apps20:06
calhaxbut if you had to?20:06
theblazehenHave used php before, but the little I've used python for web seems great. But don't know enough for a good opinion20:07
theblazehensuperfly: ^20:07
superflyPHP deserves to die, mutilated into millions of tiny pieces so that no one can pick it up and try to put it back together.20:08
superflyUse Python.20:08
calhaxhahahahahahahaha! 20:09
calhaxI've been trying out this Flaks Tutorial, its pretty interesting20:09
calhaxhttp://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world20:09
superflyYou mean Flask? I <3<3<3 Flask20:09
calhaxsorry yeah Flask20:10
superflyPersonally, I prefer Mako over Jinja2, but Jinja2 is OK.20:10
calhaxis mako's syntax easier?20:11
superflyAlso, use SQLAlchemy for your database layer.20:11
superflycalhax: no, their syntax is similar, but I also use AngularJS, and the JS template syntax and the Jinja2's template syntax are the same, so they clash.20:11
calhaxOh crap!20:12
superflyMako is just as easy to get into as Jinja2 though, you'll make the switch pretty easily.20:12
superflyThere's a flask extension for mako20:12
calhaxYeah I'm dieing to convert this app I've made into Python, but I'm too far down the road, Hopefullty I'll still get a chance later to covert20:13
calhaxonething I have learnt is you can work waaaay faster in python than in PHP20:13
superfly^^20:13
calhaxI'll have to check mako out20:13
superflyI was going to say this, and also say that you're never too far  down the road with PHP.20:13
calhaxhahahaha! 20:14
superflyAs I said before, PHP needs to die. It's the Windows of the open source/web world.20:14
superfly(as WordPress is the Windows of the CMS world)20:14
calhaxyeah, the guy I work with almost lost his shit when he saw the tools python provides for analysts! 20:15
superflycalhax: have you looked at Jupyter with Pandas/Matplotlib/numpy ?20:19
superflyThat's awesome for data science20:20
calhaxPandas, I have20:20
superflyKinda like R Studio but using Python20:20
calhaxawesome , superfly 20:22
calhaxany one here?22:53

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