[03:44] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos good morning 
[03:44] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:53] <magespawn> good morning
[06:26] <pavlushka> Morning magespawn !
[06:26] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[06:48] <Kilos> morning everyone
[06:48] <Maaz> Kilos: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell Kilos good morning" 3 hours, 3 minutes and 44 seconds ago
[06:49] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro and ll lurkers
[06:49] <Kilos> all
[07:06] <Symmetria> sup :)
[07:06]  * Symmetria is a happy man :P
[08:51] <ra1v3n> Morning
[08:51] <Kilos> hi ra1v3n 
[08:53] <ra1v3n> how are you Kilos 
[08:53] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[08:54] <ra1v3n> I'm good 
[13:24] <magespawn> caht later, home time
[16:04] <Kilos> hellooooo za peeps
[16:07] <Kilos> can you guys please say this bug affects you as well so its priority can grow
[16:08] <Kilos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/spreadubuntu/+bug/1414359
[16:08] <Kilos> superfly 
[16:50] <arts> hey Everyone!
[16:53] <Kilos> hi arts 
[16:53] <Kilos> what broke
[16:53] <arts> nothing hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[16:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:54] <Kilos> ok what doesnt work
[16:54] <arts> everything is ok :P
[16:54] <arts> for once
[16:54] <Kilos> yay
[16:54] <Kilos> and you are here
[16:54] <Kilos> woooot
[16:55] <arts> hows things your side
[16:55] <Kilos> alive and fighting with crashed LoCo teams
[16:55] <arts> crashed?
[16:55] <Kilos> yeah they kinda fall apart
[16:56] <arts> whats a LoCo team?
[16:56] <Kilos> irc channels are empty and lists applicants dont get approved etc
[16:56] <Kilos> local commu nity 
[16:56] <Kilos> each country has one or more
[16:56] <Symmetria> *sigh*
[16:57] <arts> ok cool!
[16:57] <Kilos> like we are the ubuntu-za loco
[16:57] <Symmetria> I'm busy writing an RFI document to find someone who can supply me decent V6 capable CPE routers 
[16:57] <Symmetria> that or I need to build a customized version of openwrt or something that does what I want 
[17:08] <theblazehen> Symmetria: That being ipv6?
[17:14] <Symmetria> yeah but ipv6 with a bunch of features
[17:32] <arts> Kilos, you there?
[17:32] <Kilos> yessir
[17:32] <Kilos> oh no
[17:32] <Kilos> im here not there
[17:36] <Kilos> arts ^^
[17:36] <Kilos> why are we waiting
[17:36] <arts> hahahahaha
[17:36] <Kilos> hehe
[17:36] <arts> how do i add another username to my IRC account?
[17:36] <Kilos> you use group
[17:37] <Kilos> um
[17:37] <Kilos>    /msg nickserv help
[17:41] <Kilos> iirc you change your nick to the new one here then do /msg nickserv group nick
[17:42] <arts> how do I switch usernames?
[17:42] <Kilos>   /nick newname
[17:42] <calhax> that was easy
[17:43] <calhax> thanks Kilos 
[17:43] <Kilos> you welcome
[18:44] <SEptic> ey ppl
[18:46] <calhax> ey SEptic 
[18:46] <SEptic> hi calhax
[18:47] <calhax> hows things SEptic 
[18:47] <Kilos> hi SEptic 
[18:48] <Kilos> calhax why you dropped arts
[18:48] <SEptic> hey Kilos
[18:48] <Kilos> arts is a cool nick
[18:48] <SEptic> ag ja so so hey
[18:48] <Kilos> that doesnt sound good SEptic 
[18:48] <calhax> I still have it :P just wanted this one aswell
[18:49] <Kilos> hehe
[18:50] <SEptic> i've been working 7 days a week since january 1st and pretty much every evening too, today was my first proper off day
[18:51] <Kilos> wow
[18:51] <calhax> SEptic's day off - starting SEptic 
[18:52] <SEptic> i've become a different person, realised that today, not good
[18:52] <SEptic> anywho
[18:52] <SEptic> my ubuntu server skillz are getting there
[18:53] <calhax> 8 months of straight work will do that to ya LOL
[18:53] <SEptic> nfs vs samba? thoughts any1?
[18:53] <Kilos> the more experience you get the easier things become
[18:55] <theblazehen> SEptic: nfs for linux / unix clients
[18:55] <theblazehen> Although different uses IMO
[18:55] <theblazehen> samba for users
[18:55] <theblazehen> nfs for os stuff
[18:55] <theblazehen> But that's just my feeling
[18:56] <SEptic> i get mixed feeling off the net on speeds, some say its dependant on network / devices etc
[18:56] <SEptic> windows cannot talk nfs ye?
[18:59] <theblazehen> SEptic: Need to install feature, but it can
[19:01] <SEptic> aah ok cool
[19:02] <SEptic> i'm more tending towards nfs, i guess the further away from windows the happier i am
[19:02] <SEptic> a couple weeks ago we got nailed by ransomware
[19:10] <pavlushka> Good night Guys!
[19:11] <Kilos> hi captine 
[19:18] <theblazehen> SEptic: Well, it does all the fancy ACLs etc
[19:19] <theblazehen> But you need a UID mapper, or users need to share unix uid and gids on client and server
[19:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:19] <theblazehen> night Kilos
[19:19] <SEptic> night
[19:20] <SEptic> hmm i see
[19:22] <SEptic> i've got samba down to a T, nfs haven't used
[19:25] <SEptic> lemme play with it and see how it goes :)
[19:29] <theblazehen> yeah
[19:29] <theblazehen> Look at nfs ganesha for a userspace implementation
[19:30] <theblazehen> And have you seen glusterfs, moosefs, ceph (Both block store and ceph fs) yet?
[19:30] <theblazehen> SEptic: ^
[19:31] <SEptic> cool, thanks, looking now
[19:32] <captine> theblazehen, so many things to learn.... no time to learn them. :(
[19:32] <theblazehen> Ceph even has a pretty web interface
[19:32] <theblazehen> captine: That's what coffee's for
[19:32] <theblazehen> Well, web interface if you use it on rhel
[19:43] <captine> lol.  coffee isnt enough for my day job.. let alone my tech hobby
[19:53] <calhax> LOL
[19:59] <theblazehen> captine: Meth?
[20:04] <calhax> whats is your perfered programming language for web apps?
[20:04] <SEptic> night all
[20:06] <theblazehen> cheers SEptic
[20:06] <theblazehen> calhax: don't do much web apps
[20:06] <calhax> but if you had to?
[20:07] <theblazehen> Have used php before, but the little I've used python for web seems great. But don't know enough for a good opinion
[20:07] <theblazehen> superfly: ^
[20:08] <superfly> PHP deserves to die, mutilated into millions of tiny pieces so that no one can pick it up and try to put it back together.
[20:08] <superfly> Use Python.
[20:09] <calhax> hahahahahahahaha! 
[20:09] <calhax> I've been trying out this Flaks Tutorial, its pretty interesting
[20:09] <calhax> http://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world
[20:09] <superfly> You mean Flask? I <3<3<3 Flask
[20:10] <calhax> sorry yeah Flask
[20:10] <superfly> Personally, I prefer Mako over Jinja2, but Jinja2 is OK.
[20:11] <calhax> is mako's syntax easier?
[20:11] <superfly> Also, use SQLAlchemy for your database layer.
[20:11] <superfly> calhax: no, their syntax is similar, but I also use AngularJS, and the JS template syntax and the Jinja2's template syntax are the same, so they clash.
[20:12] <calhax> Oh crap!
[20:12] <superfly> Mako is just as easy to get into as Jinja2 though, you'll make the switch pretty easily.
[20:12] <superfly> There's a flask extension for mako
[20:13] <calhax> Yeah I'm dieing to convert this app I've made into Python, but I'm too far down the road, Hopefullty I'll still get a chance later to covert
[20:13] <calhax> onething I have learnt is you can work waaaay faster in python than in PHP
[20:13] <superfly> ^^
[20:13] <calhax> I'll have to check mako out
[20:13] <superfly> I was going to say this, and also say that you're never too far  down the road with PHP.
[20:14] <calhax> hahahaha! 
[20:14] <superfly> As I said before, PHP needs to die. It's the Windows of the open source/web world.
[20:14] <superfly> (as WordPress is the Windows of the CMS world)
[20:15] <calhax> yeah, the guy I work with almost lost his shit when he saw the tools python provides for analysts! 
[20:19] <superfly> calhax: have you looked at Jupyter with Pandas/Matplotlib/numpy ?
[20:20] <superfly> That's awesome for data science
[20:20] <calhax> Pandas, I have
[20:20] <superfly> Kinda like R Studio but using Python
[20:22] <calhax> awesome , superfly 
[22:53] <calhax> any one here?