[00:00] <cupofbrew> Actually looks like sandboxie doesn't run in linux
[00:01] <HOHO780> a
[00:01] <HOHO780> aa
[00:01] <HOHO780> aaaa
[00:01] <kenrin> Cameyo looks to be the linux go-to for sandboxie
[00:01] <milestone234> kenrin where is the download for avast linux because i saw one link that said last updated 2010? comodo antivirus is not supported anymore....I tried a terminal command that was supposed to download bit defender and that said it was not found...
[00:01] <HOHO780> any one here
[00:02] <HOHO780> high as sht
[00:02] <HOHO780> hello
[00:02] <kenrin> They have repositories milestone234,  let me find a link
[00:03] <HOHO780> you know i think im te only one here
[00:03] <cupofbrew> Also, does anyone have browser plugin suggestions?
[00:03] <milestone234> kenrin i tried comodo antivirus straight from website but it has issues with latest version of ubuntu but i think the previous version of ubuntu works well.
[00:03] <maven> cupofbrew take a look at Glimpse
[00:04] <HOHO780> uhh hacker kill is a good plug in
[00:04] <HOHO780> it makes sure of an alert when given virus or spam
[00:05] <HOHO780> hello tami
[00:06] <ratthemax> hi
[00:06] <cupofbrew> currently using ublock origin and https everywhere
[00:06] <HOHO780> HWO thinks that thy screwd up on ubutu MATE
[00:06] <cupofbrew> Anything else that isn't covered under those addons?
[00:06] <kenrin> Not sure their repositories work anymore
[00:06] <cupofbrew> in terms of improving privacy /security
[00:07] <ratthemax> so im brand new to ubuntu and im currently "trying" it. It will not let me install programs such as chrome or flash. Plz help
[00:07] <milestone234> kenrin i think a lot of companies have kind of gotten out of linux for some reason.
[00:07] <kenrin> Yeah they do,  updated June 13th, 2016.   https://www.avast.com/en-us/faq.php?article=AVKB131#idt_0200ava
[00:07] <milestone234> thanks
[00:07] <milestone234> kenrin
[00:07] <ratthemax> can someone help me?
[00:07] <ratthemax> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[00:08] <kenrin> What does it give you ratthemax?  an error?
[00:08] <minimec> ratthemax: 'trying' meaning you are still using the USB Stick installer?
[00:08] <kenrin> Or you can leave...
[00:08] <HOHO780> hey im working on decode plugin where it can decode the scripts in a website called TRSHhit
[00:09]  * eelstrebor network upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 in progress - keeping my fingers crossed that i won't have to do a fresh install
[00:10] <milestone234> kenrin thanks for that i see the instructions on how to download the repository
[00:10] <milestone234> :)
[00:10] <kenrin> Yeah it is hidden,  they doing a lot of restructuring since they bought AVG
[00:11] <amsb> so lshw and lspci are not correctly identifying my graphics card...any tips?
[00:13] <kenrin> dmesg | grep -i agp   ?
[00:14] <amsb> [    0.619342] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[00:14] <kenrin> xrandr --listproviders  ?
[00:16] <amsb> Providers: number : 1                                                                                                 │19:15 -!- gnubie [~gnubie@unaffiliated/gnubie] has left #ubuntu []
[00:16] <amsb> Provider 0: id: 0x59 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 4 associated providers: 0 name:HAWAII @ p│19:15 -!- cupofbrew [~cupofbrew@199.58.81.144] has joined #ubuntu
[00:16] <amsb> ci:0000:01:00.0
[00:16] <cupofbrew> Thunar crashes when renaming files all the time
[00:16] <cupofbrew> It's an ancient bug and has yet to be fixed
[00:16] <amsb> that makes a little sense. sys identifies card as R9 290, but it's actually a 390
[00:17] <amsb> HAWAII as I understand is the arch codename for the R9 series
[00:17] <kenrin> If they use the same chipset sometimes they misidentify but it doesn't affect performance really as the drivers probably the same
[00:18] <amsb> kenrin: I can see that, but I am kind of experiencing some performance issues
[00:19] <amsb> lots of screen glitching and there are no gfx drivers identified in the 'additional drivers' screen
[00:19] <amsb> I'm assuming the default radeon driver is being used, but unsure how to confirm that
[00:20] <kenrin> It most definitely is the open-source driver
[00:21] <amsb> kenrin: would installing fglrx be a good place to start? I understood it to be deprecated..?
[00:21] <OerHeks> amsb, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[00:21] <OerHeks> fglrx is depreciated in 16.04 .. see the xenial releasenotes
[00:21] <OerHeks> so you have AMDgpu running now, or radeon for older cards.
[00:21] <amsb> Kernel driver in use: radeon
[00:22] <amsb> "Kernel driver in use: radeon"
[00:22] <OerHeks> good
[00:22] <amsb> OerHeks: would you recommend trying fglrx?
[00:22] <OerHeks>  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[00:23] <amsb> oh hangon
[00:23] <OerHeks> amsb, on 16.04 ?
[00:23] <amsb> yes, 16.04
[00:23] <kenrin> You can't
[00:23] <OerHeks> read back, no fglrx no more
[00:23] <kenrin> He can try amdgpu though right ?
[00:23] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[00:23] <amsb> OerHeks: got it.
[00:24] <OerHeks> kenrin, AMDgpu loads standard if suitable for the card, AFAIK
[00:26] <kenrin> Looks like it is used if able,  but you can force it with xorg.conf edits
[00:26] <amsb> kenrin: that's what I'm seeing, too.
[00:26] <amsb> is that package available in repos or do I need to d/l directly from AMD?
[00:27] <ayyyylmao> Hey friends. I am using integrated graphics but Ubuntu is stuck at 800x600 / doesn't recognize monitor. Is there a way to get to my screen's native 2560x1440? Please and thank you
[00:27] <kenrin> Should be already installed
[00:27] <kenrin> There is another driver called GPU-PRO too that can be installed on 16.04
[00:27] <OerHeks> AMD gives a beta driver, that supports a few cards more ..
[00:28] <OerHeks> but beta, not tested
[00:29] <amsb> probably going to give this a try: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[00:29] <OerHeks> ayyyylmao, open terminal: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[00:29] <OerHeks> does it give you a choise?
[00:29] <kenrin> I saw it referred to as the "new" fglrx
[00:30] <minimec> ayyyylmao: Is your integrated GPU capable to display that resolution? If yes... try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution/377944#377944
[00:30] <ayyyylmao> minimec - the only thing I see is `intel-microcode`
[00:30] <ayyyylmao> surely it can do better than 800x600 doe
[00:31] <OerHeks> ayyyylmao, what videocard ? lspci | grep VGA
[00:31] <OerHeks> sounds like a super fresh one ...
[00:32] <ayyyylmao> I removed the videocard is the thing
[00:32] <ayyyylmao> Worked fine on the 980Ti
[00:32] <ayyyylmao> so im using integrated via displayport
[00:32] <kenrin> Does integrated support 2k ?
[00:32] <ayyyylmao> Perhaps not, but it should at least support 1024x768
[00:32] <OerHeks> ayyyylmao, that is no excuse to show the GPU you are using
[00:32] <ayyyylmao> which leads me to believe im missing a driver
[00:33] <ayyyylmao> I just know the mobo make and model, not the GPU inside it. Which would be GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-UD5 (rev. 1.0)
[00:33] <kenrin> If you know what CPU it is you know the GPU
[00:34] <OerHeks> lspci | grep VGA
[00:37] <ayyyylmao> Hahaha that askubuntu thing blackscreened for good
[00:37] <ayyyylmao> looks like integrated isn't so hot
[00:37] <kenrin> Probably just messed up because you remove the 980ti
[00:37] <ayyyylmao> clean install though
[00:38] <unotir> Why kenrin
[00:38] <kenrin> Ah,  clean install,  then no idea.
[00:38] <unotir> ayyyylmao: ha
[00:38] <ayyyylmao> sounds like the integrated just blows
[00:39] <minimec> ayyyylmao: Open the settings GUI and go to 'details' You will see the cpu there. 'lspci | grep VGA' is not giving me the correct answer with 16.04.
[00:40] <ayyyylmao> minimec, i'll have to reinstall cause it's toast now
[00:40] <ayyyylmao> lol
[00:40] <ayyyylmao> i cant see anything
[00:41] <unotir> kenrin: you messed up
[00:41] <ubuntu> gfrewgergher
[00:41] <ubuntu> hello
[00:42] <Guest96029> i dont know, why in new Ubuntu used GNOME Software Center?
[00:43] <minimec> ayyyylmao: Switch to a console witch ctrl+alt+F1 and login with your user account.
[00:48] <amsb> I'm having trouble extracting .tar.xz file...I have xz-utils installed...
[00:50] <pavlos> amsb, xz --help
[00:51] <amsb> pavlos: j/k I downloaded the file as html somehow...we're good
[00:51] <amsb> :/
[00:51] <pavlos> ok
[00:57] <groundzero> has anyone had a problem with keeping wifi on in 16.04. By wifi on i mean going to network and trying to flip the switch on but it turns itself off?
[00:59] <amsb> well OerHeks the amdgpu driver made things way worse
[01:00] <groundzero> would this be the cause you think?
[01:05] <milestone234> package needs to be reinstalled but cannot find archive for it error
[01:05] <milestone234> anyone know how to fix that
[01:05] <cupofbrew> is nautalis less buggy than thunar?
[01:06] <cupofbrew> seriously considering switching to ubuntu from xbunutu due to bugs and crashing
[01:08] <groundzero> anyone know why wifi would keep switching itself off?
[01:09] <groundzero> i got mine to work by playing with the switch but instead of a normal wifi icon i have what looks like a wired even though its connected to my internet
[01:11] <cupofbrew> Would KDE be a better switch from an XFCE user than unity?
[01:12] <cupofbrew> I've only ever used xfce
[01:12] <groundzero> why do you wanna switch?
[01:13] <cupofbrew> I love xubuntu, but thunar is too buggy for my purposes
[01:13] <cupofbrew> It crashing constantly when moving/renaming files, which I do a lot with work
[01:13] <cupofbrew> and it's pretty stripped down in terms of features
[01:13] <cupofbrew> *it's
[01:15] <cupofbrew> groundzero: is kubuntu as lightweight as xbunutu?
[01:16] <Adam-phone> Any server/network gurus about? I'm having issues connecting to a lan mail/web server using the fqdn since I'm using ask. Basically it times out if we are on the same router in the office, but works fine over 4g/home internet.
[01:17] <Adam-phone> Using ssl*
[01:18] <Hydr0p0nX> Adam-phone - if you ping the fqdn do you get the public or private address?
[01:18] <Adam-phone> Public
[01:18] <Adam-phone> It pings the wan ip
[01:18] <Hydr0p0nX> and there is a firewall ?
[01:19] <Hydr0p0nX> NAT something like that?
[01:19] <Adam-phone> A nat on the router
[01:19] <Adam-phone> Net gear
[01:20] <Hydr0p0nX> probably an issue of not allowing traffic out and back in, try setting a host entry on the server with the private address
[01:20] <Adam-phone> Ssh works fine, but mail and web don't work
[01:20] <tgm4883> sounds like internal DNS is wrong
[01:20] <Hydr0p0nX> and yes, if the host entry works, you need internal dns updated to reflect the private ip
[01:22] <Adam-phone> I don't think the server is running s dns server
[01:23] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: no, whatever you are using for your LAN DNS needs to have a record for your mail server
[01:23] <Adam-phone> That would be the router
[01:24] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: then you need to add a record on the router for your mail server to point the FQDN at the internal IP
[01:24] <groundzero> sorry not entirely sure never used but im sure its an easy look up
[01:25] <Adam-phone> Don't think the consumer grade netgear they are using can do that, I can't even Telnet it.
[01:26] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: what model?
[01:26] <Adam-phone> Let me look, standby tgm4883
[01:28] <Adam-phone> tgm4883: wndr3400v3
[01:29] <WiteStar> if ubuntu kernel crashes will it automatically reboot?
[01:29] <Adam-phone> It could kernel-panic
[01:29] <WiteStar> yeh if itdoes will it reboot?
[01:29] <WiteStar> no right?
[01:30] <Adam-phone> Don't think it will reboot, not sure
[01:30] <WiteStar> fml
[01:30] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: hmm, I wonder if you put the FQDN in here if that would work http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/25722/~/how-do-i-reserve-an-ip-address-on-my-netgear-router%3F
[01:30] <WiteStar> i literary just came down from the DC!!!!!!!
[01:30] <Adam-phone> It's been a while since I've seen One
[01:31] <compdoc> THE dc?!!
[01:31] <tgm4883> WiteStar: I believe that has been configurable
[01:31] <WiteStar> yeh i think it is
[01:31] <WiteStar> but by default i doesnt.
[01:31] <WiteStar> (data center0
[01:31] <WiteStar> i finally installed 14.04.. installed the fglrx.. and clinfo crashes the whole dam thing!
[01:31] <WiteStar> ugh!
[01:33] <Adam-phone> tgm4883: nope
[01:33] <tgm4883> installing fglrx on a server in the DC?
[01:33] <tgm4883> that doesn't seem right
[01:33] <WiteStar> tgm4883: not for playing games.. for cruching numbers
[01:33] <Adam-phone> That's for reserving ip to MAC address
[01:34] <groundzero> failed to connect ot socket /com/ubuntu/upstart how do i resolve?
[01:34] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: well yes, that is for reserving an IP with a MAC address, however there's also a spot there for name and logically you'd be able to reach the IP by that name
[01:34] <unotir> Apple is mad at trump because he wants to force them to use higher cost American labor
[01:35] <Adam-phone> I think I need to order us a new router for the office that is a lot more configurable
[01:35] <WiteStar> but that means their profit margin will shrink
[01:35] <WiteStar> ... no wait.. they will just jack the price of phones up
[01:35] <Adam-phone> Any suggestions?
[01:35] <WiteStar> call them "PLATINUM" and ppl will flock to them
[01:36] <unotir> WiteStar: exactly
[01:36] <WiteStar> and then they will sell toilet seat covers.. and ppl will buy them too!!
[01:36] <WiteStar> they will call it iPoop or something
[01:37] <Adam-phone> I never had troubles like these on my AirPort Extreme or wrt54g lol
[01:39] <WiteStar> yep officialy down :(
[01:40] <unotir> WiteStar: in America you have 2 choices. Do business with slave labor or use American labor and lose competitive
[01:40] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: yea I don't see a way to do it in the WNDR3400
[01:40] <tgm4883> unotir: that seems off topic
[01:40] <Flannel> unotir: This is a technical support channel, please take your discussion elsewhere, thanks.
[01:40] <WiteStar> unotir: in canada you have 2 choices.. buy from the US and pay for duties... or buy from china.. use the "free shipping" wait 2 months for it to arive.. and dont!
[01:41] <unotir> Hehe
[01:41] <WiteStar> at least thast the case for my ubuntu swag
[01:41] <WiteStar> see im on topic :-P lol
[01:42] <tgm4883> WiteStar: no, that's also off topic
[01:42] <WiteStar> awww :(
[01:42] <WiteStar> LOL
[01:46] <Adam-phone> tgm4883: you think a linksys wrt1200ac could pull it off?
[01:47] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: IDK, I'd either A) get something that can run openwrt or B) repurpose a computer for pfsense
[01:47] <Adam-phone> My boss is breathing down my neck to make this mail server a reality lol
[01:48] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: alternatively, you could also setup a different machine in your network to serve DNS
[01:49] <Adam-phone> Is openwrt the new ddwrt?
[01:49] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: new? It's been around longer than ddwrt
[01:50] <Adam-phone> Lol got you
[01:50] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: how many computers are at this office?
[01:50] <Adam-phone> It's been a while since I have done custom router firmware
[01:52] <Adam-phone> 9 computers 6 cell phones
[01:52] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: You could also just get something small like a raspberry pi, have it act as a DNS server and have the router use that for DNS
[01:52] <tgm4883> Adam-phone: you've got lots of options, some easier and more expensive than others
[01:54] <Hydr0p0nX> any reason you couldn't setup internal dns on the asterisk box?
[01:54] <Hydr0p0nX> dns is pretty low impact, especially with the number of users your talkng about
[01:55] <Adam-phone> I'm ready to toss that netgear, I'll give the 1200ac a Go
[01:55] <Adam-phone> Looks like openwrt loves it
[01:55] <Hydr0p0nX> i use tomato by shibby on my asus
[01:55] <Hydr0p0nX> really happy with it
[01:56] <Adam-phone> Nice
[01:57] <tgm4883> I used to do something similiar, but now i've upgraded to pfsense
[01:57] <Hydr0p0nX> i have 3 8port switches in use, and 16 devices in dhcp right now
[01:58] <Hydr0p0nX> I used to run slackware as my firewall, if my testing w/ kvm works as well as I hope, i'll have a similar setup again soon
[01:58] <Adam-phone> Everyone in our office uses wireless even though the building is wired to a huge hub.
[01:59] <Adam-phone> The server is the only thing that's wired
[01:59] <Hydr0p0nX> my house has 3 rooms wired with 1, maybe 2 rooms left + wireless A/C, and my neighbor has his own wifi network being fed off it
[02:00] <Adam-phone> Heh
[02:00] <Hydr0p0nX> maybe 2 depends on whether i want to wire the kitch for some reason
[02:00] <Hydr0p0nX> or, if I close in the carport
[02:00] <Adam-phone> My living room is all wired, everything else wireless.
[02:01] <Hydr0p0nX> i'm hoping to have the last room cleaned out enough to justify wiring it soon
[02:02] <Hydr0p0nX> but, i've also got a 10.5tb nas, I may bind a few interfaces to increase throughput
[02:03] <Adam-phone> Anyway thanks for the tips folks, hopefully by the end of next week they can have their <name>@<fqdn> emails and they will be Happy
[02:18] <groundzero> failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart how do i resolve?
[02:24] <JediNix> hello
[02:25] <groundzero> hi
[02:32] <krabador> !hi | groundzero
[02:51] <magalle> hi
[03:12] <scottsanett> exit
[03:20] <nickyy> hello
[03:21] <krabador> !hello | nickyy
[03:23] <g5095> Hello, I have a package 'libimobiledevice6:amd64'   that is not configured, and is blocking me installing anything with apt. I can't remove it with apt or dpkg. It just says:  'dpkg: error processing package libimobiledevice6:amd64 (--configure):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting configuration.'   .. but I cannot install it, or delete it, or purge it
[03:23] <g5095> just keeps giving the same error over and over
[03:27] <Teddie> hi
[03:27] <Teddie> who uses ubuntu os?
[03:35] <jamie_1> hey im currently trying to play and avi and getting an interesting issue of error occurred could not demultiplex stream
[03:35] <jamie_1> any ideas?
[03:42] <Illuminato> hello
[03:44] <JustAnotherIdiot> sudo iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 9000 -j REDIRECT --to-port 7000 <-- there's a way to make this work on all network interfaces?
[03:44] <JustAnotherIdiot> nvm
[03:53] <legendre> so I need some kind of benchmark / analysis tool for Xubuntu.
[03:54] <legendre> my machine has been a total POS since I u/g to the latest LTR
[03:54] <legendre> Really don't want to downgrade, as thats just not an option.. but I may have to swap distros if I can't resolve this.
[03:55] <legendre> it seems to be out of physical RAM at any time.. swaps constantly.
[03:55] <legendre> I tried running it with no swap.. and that just ended up in an act of one-button administration. ;-)
[03:56] <legendre> why is the latest (14.04?) such a pig compared to the last LTS ver?
[03:58] <Blue1> 16.04 is the latest lts release
[03:58] <Blue1> 14.04 does NOT use systemd
[04:11] <Tbone139> Turns out my  laptop has  a problem where the  spacebar randomly double-keystrokes and BIOS updates aren't fixing it. Is there a way I can make ubuntu/lxde ignore the spacebar for ~50ms after each time it's pressed?
[04:16] <Tbone139> hmm, maybe bind spacebar to a keyboard macro that locks itself out for that interval?
[04:35] <bentd> h
[04:42] <renka> hello... i want to correctly set up my ubuntu 14.04 webserver.. i have everything installed apache2 mysql php.. but i am little bit confused with my ssh-key. i cant ssh-copy-id my server
[04:48] <TF> #asterisk
[04:48] <Guest25830> Im looking for hylafax
[04:48] <Guest25830> for ubuntu
[04:50] <freakyy> hi all. is anyone interested in a shell on my private debian server hosted in some datacenter? im giving away 1 shell for free.
[04:51] <Merdam> .
[04:52] <freakyy> (:
[04:52] <MrXuntu> Can someone recommend a 4 head video card that'd natively supported by opensource drivers?
[04:52] <freakyy> well, its a long story but when i was 16 i got a shell sponsored by someone to extend my knowledge and later i bought my own server.
[05:00] <v10let-b1sh0p> Hi! I wanted to know if it is possible to set an alias for poweroff like say ciao: alias ciao="poweroff"
[05:01] <baizon> v10let-b1sh0p: yes it is possible
[05:02] <v10let-b1sh0p> baizon: I tried it but it doesn't seem to work
[05:02] <baizon> v10let-b1sh0p: https://askubuntu.com/questions/578144/why-doesnt-running-sudo-shutdown-now-shutdown
[05:02] <v10let-b1sh0p> Thanks!
[05:03] <Guy1524> guys, no man's sky works flawlessly for me in wine
[05:05] <baizon> !offtopic | Guy1524
[05:06] <baizon> Guy1524: btw. its opengl, so why shouldnt it
[05:06] <Merdam> Hey guys.  I have come to talk about the threat of Islam.  When it comes to the West and Islam, there is no compromise.
[05:06] <Merdam> We must deport or kill every single Muslim NOW!
[05:06] <Merdam> That is right.  Get rid of them.
[05:07] <baizon> wow
[05:07] <wasq>  Hi. I'm missing the network/wifi connections icon. Is there anyway to install that applet? (xenial, xfce)
[05:07] <baizon> wasq: i think the guys on #xubuntu can help you
[05:07] <wasq> baizon, they're asleep :(
[05:08] <baizon> wasq: well my guess would be resetting the panel should solve this
[05:08] <Guy1524> I think Merdam was just joking about how what I said was off topic
[05:09] <wasq> baizon, it's not just about the panel. I simply have no place to goto if i want to manage wifi connections.
[05:09] <baizon> wasq: well you can use the cli ;)
[05:10] <wasq> baizon, if only i knew what cli was. I'm a n00b.
[05:10] <baizon> wasq: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Command_line
[05:13] <wasq> baizon, cli=command line interface i imagine.... Well, i'm actually running xubuntu within chromeos so it doesn't necessarily matter whether i have the wifi connections interface within xubuntu. It's more that I'm interested in learning linux and getting things to work. This is the first time i was unable to find info on google hence my question here on irc.
[05:13] <iulian> wasq, http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.bg/2011/12/add-application-to-xfcexubuntu-session.html
[05:14] <atralhea-> Hi
[05:15] <wasq> iulian, could you please tell me the command line to open up the gui for wifi connections? i tried nm-applet but I don't have that
[05:16] <wasq> iulian, i'm already familiar with autostart and what not. It's just that there is NO place where i can change/connect to a wifi/settings
[05:17] <atralhea-> I've broken my package manager by canceling an instillation when it was installing...  now I get this error: http://hastebin.com/raw/giganinuti
[05:18] <glitchd> can anyone help me decipher this bluetooth error on 16.
[05:18] <atralhea-> I tired "sudo dpkg --configure -a", "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock", "sudo apt-get -f install" but nothing worked
[05:18] <glitchd> *16.04
[05:20] <atralhea-> wasq: there is "nmcli" it may help you
[05:20] <glitchd> here is a link to the errors im getting http://pastebin.com/syp63gSa
[05:21] <wasq> atralhea-, is there a gui equivalent to nmcli command that i can start in terminal?
[05:21] <atralhea-> wasq: I don't know, maybe if you tell me what you want to do, I can help
[05:22] <atralhea-> wasq: but maybe! I don't know much like you, lets just try :)
[05:22] <iulian> wasq, try sudo nm-applet
[05:22] <wasq> iulian, i tried that, it says command not found
[05:23] <wasq> atralhea-, i want to get to a gui for wifi connects.
[05:23] <atralhea-> wasq: maybe its not installed?
[05:23] <wasq> atralhea-, help me install it :)
[05:24] <atralhea-> wasq: may I ask how is your ubuntu now?
[05:24] <atralhea-> wasq: do you have a running desktop?
[05:25] <wasq> atralhea-, yes it runs just fine. But i don't have a place for wifi connections since i upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04
[05:25] <atralhea-> wasq: try sudo service network-manager restart, see what happens?
[05:33] <diverdude> does it make any sense to run a parallel distributed filesystem like HDFS or similar on a mechanical disk? Shouldn't it be run a random access device such as an SSD in order to perform properly?
[05:33] <iulian> wasq, yaeh and check Indicator plugin
[05:36] <wasq> atralhea-, well that was interesting. that disconnected me and i was unable to connect to wifi with the CORRECT password
[05:37] <wasq> atralhea-, still don't have gui
[05:47] <atralhea-> wasq: when you enter the command nmcli, do you have it?
[05:49] <atralhea-> wasq: you don't have the icon right?
[05:50] <wasq> atralhea-, yep no icon
[05:50] <atralhea-> wasq: do you use ubuntu, xubuntu?
[05:50] <wasq> atralhea-, xubuntu
[05:52] <atralhea-> wasq: sudo apt-get install "xfce4-indicator-plugin" and then add "Indicator Panel" to the panel, you should have the icon
[05:53] <wasq> atralhea-, i found that solution on google. didnt' help me
[05:53] <atralhea-> wasq: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449658/networkmanager-tray-nm-applet-is-gone-after-upgrade-to-14-04-trusty
[05:53] <atralhea-> wasq: I googled too
[05:53] <atralhea-> :D
[05:54] <baizon> like i suggested before, reset the xfce panel.
[05:54] <iulian> wasq, If it is installed but not running, try sudo service network-manager start
[05:55] <atralhea-> wasq: have you tried the second solution too? and also baizon solution
[06:02] <atralhea-> guys I had a question too: "I've broken my package manager by canceling an instillation when it was installing...  now I get this error: http://hastebin.com/raw/giganinuti"
[06:03] <baizon> atralhea-: have you tried to restart?
[06:03] <baizon> atralhea-: then run apt-get install -f
[06:03] <atralhea-> baizon: restarting system?
[06:04] <baizon> atralhea-: yes, reboot
[06:04] <atralhea-> baizon: no, I thought it was for windows :)) I will do now, so brb
[06:05] <wasq> atralhea
[06:06] <wasq> baizon, how do i reset the panel again?
[06:06] <baizon> wasq: https://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings
[06:07] <wasq> baizon, thanks let me try
[06:08] <wasq> baizon, just curious, what do you type into terminal to get the wifi gui to popup?
[06:09] <baizon> wasq: nm-connection-editor
[06:11] <atralhea-> baizon: why rebooting solved my problem??
[06:11] <atralhea-> baizon: systemd?!
[06:11] <baizon> atralhea-: the process that was holding dpkg got killed
[06:12] <atralhea-> baizon: couldn't I find and kill it without restarting, or it was just an easier way?
[06:12] <baizon> atralhea-: that was much easier :)
[06:12] <baizon> atralhea-: but yeah, next time you can search for the process
[06:13] <wasq> baizon, I don't have that and am unable to install that :/
[06:13] <atralhea-> baizon: thank god...
[06:13] <baizon> wasq: because youre using xfce and im using ubuntu
[06:13] <wasq> baizon, hmm ok
[06:13] <baizon> wasq: like i said earlier, this is the ubuntu support channel, xubuntu is for xfce
[06:14] <wasq> baizon, you're right. thanks though
[06:14] <baizon> wasq: np :)
[06:18] <atralhea-> there is a repo, which I can't have access to it, and I want to mirror it on my server, so I give my server address, and I can use it without problem. how can I do it? and how can I know what's the size of that mirror?
[06:25] <atralhea-> its another software repo
[06:48] <danialbehzadi> Hi. My systemd seems to be broken. Every systemctl task timeouts like this:
[06:48] <danialbehzadi> $ sudo systemctl status apache2.service
[06:48] <danialbehzadi> Failed to get properties: Connection timed out
[06:49] <danialbehzadi> So, I can not upgrade any service package
[06:50] <danialbehzadi> Any Idea?
[06:51]  * DimitrisGR slaps abra0 around a bit with a large trout
[06:52] <LadY_aSaL> hello
[06:53] <brushdemon> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2200
[06:53] <LadY_aSaL> hello all
[06:54] <LadY_aSaL> javid_ hi
[06:56] <zww> test
[07:18] <BrambleG> My desktop is plugged into a TV with HDMI, and there is a large amount of overscan on my display. The TV is cheap so there's no over/underscan adjustment, but I've used nvidia-settings to configure underscan to 39 and I run xrandr -s 1842x1036 on login. This worked fine for me on Fedora with KDE, but it seems the panels in Unity do not scale to fit within the resolution, causing my rubbish bin to be cut off at the
[07:18] <BrambleG> bottom left, and the clock and power button to be cut off on the top right. Is there a way to make Unity scale properly?
[07:20] <myname_nickname> hi
[07:22] <KajiMaster> hello
[07:22] <lazyninja_> hi
[07:22] <lazyninja_> what time is it where you are
[07:23] <KajiMaster> 12:23
[07:23] <lazyninja_> ya, it's 3:23am here
[07:23] <lazyninja_> just watching the olympics
[07:24] <jamie_1> i think this is just about the only channel i know of that has life at this hour XD
[07:24] <lazyninja_> Hmmm...  haven't used irc for many years...  thought I would try it out
[07:24] <lazyninja_> Ya
[07:24] <sarek> so NFS is faster than but less secure so only recommended for internal network and not remotely?
[07:24] <lazyninja_> Canada is doing pretty well so far..
[07:24] <jamie_1> im just sitting here hacking at a html5 camera app... and it think its kicking my butt XD
[07:24] <Ascavasaion> I am running Lubuntu with the lightdm.  I get the following error... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604  I saw a suggestion by someone online that replacing lightdm with gdm would work.  How do I do that, and is it a safe option?
[07:25] <jamie_1> Ascavasaion: its perfectly fine to swap dm
[07:25] <jamie_1> if you want to install gdm you will probably want gdm3... as i dont know if gdm is even kept up anymore...
[07:26] <Ascavasaion> jamie_1: So a sodo apt-get install and then a sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and thena  reboot?
[07:26] <jamie_1> Ascavasaion: yes
[07:26] <jamie_1> Ascavasaion: some times on install it will allow you to swap then but not always... i dont know if gdm does that.
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> jamick: Let me try this... I am always nervous of this stuff hehehe
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> jamie_1: I meant
[07:27] <jamie_1> i personally use gdm3... the others dont seem to allow me to run gnome on wayland for some odd reason...
[07:27] <jamie_1> kinda like you cant run unity8 with mir on gdm3
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> jamie_1: I am running lubuntu
[07:28] <KajiMaster> i've avoided Unity since it first came out
[07:28] <lazyninja_> what is this?  display manager?
[07:28] <jamie_1> Ascavasaion: gnome on wayland is nothing more than a de with a new display server
[07:28] <jamie_1> lazyninja_: yes
[07:28] <lazyninja_> is lumbuntu some distro of ubuntu?
[07:28] <jamie_1> yes its the light weight ubuntu
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> KajiMaster: Me as well.
[07:28] <BrambleG> I think I'm just gonna see if XFCE will work with my weird resolution since Unity won't
[07:29] <KajiMaster> i love XFCE
[07:29] <EriC^^> lazyninja_: it's ubuntu + lxde as the de
[07:29] <KajiMaster> i don't use any other DM
[07:29] <jamie_1> way to lightweight for me
[07:29] <KajiMaster> or DE :)
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> installing gdm and it wants to install 46MB????  hug???
[07:29] <lazyninja_> I just setup this laptop with dual boot... win 10 / ubuntu 16.04...  I'm liking it
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> huh???
[07:29] <BrambleG> I use XFCE on my laptop, but I wanted to see if Unity had improved in recent years but I can't even get it to work lol
[07:29] <lazyninja_> uh ok... HUH
[07:29] <jamie_1> i run on ubuntu gnome with gnome 3.20 running wayland as the display server while using gdm3 as the display manager
[07:29] <EriC^^> Ascavasaion: it probably needs a bunch of gtk stuff
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> EriC^^: that is crazy :(
[07:30] <EriC^^> lubuntu is qt based i think
[07:30] <jamie_1> BrambleG: when was the last time you tried gnome?
[07:30] <lazyninja_> It's not bad
[07:30] <lazyninja_> I've been using it for a couple of months now...
[07:30] <BrambleG> jamie_1 Yesterday, actually :p Not a big fan, it felt really "chunky" like it used a lot of screen real estate
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> sigh... 46MB... will have to do that at home on the WiFi.  A whole day with this stupid mouse sursor bug now.
[07:30] <jamie_1> BrambleG: ????
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> cursor
[07:31] <lazyninja_> hmmm... I was happy tonight when I installed it on this laptop...  touch screen worked out of the box
[07:31] <jamie_1> how does it use up a lot of screen relastate?? unless you have the doc open the whole screen is what you are running
[07:32] <jamie_1> the doc goes away... and you are just left with for example i have quassel open right now and its only quassel and my notification bar and thats it
[07:32] <BrambleG> Well I open the dock a lot and the fact that that's full screen annoys me somewhat, like with Windows 8
[07:32] <rcmainak> hey can anyone help me with this problem -> https://gist.github.com/RCMainak/68787e49886e59a8ccddd3506ba958f3
[07:32] <rcmainak> the gist contains the description of the problem ^^^
[07:32] <lazyninja_> if you type 'screen display' can't you just change the resolution?
[07:33] <jamie_1> its one of those ones that grows on you BrambleG... when i first started using it i hated it... but convinced myself to try it for a little bit and once you get the hang of how to use it and the hot keys its quick and snappy
[07:33] <jamie_1> great for multi-tasking
[07:34] <jamie_1> well its rolling around 3:30 in the morning... i should probably get some sleep since im not really working on my code right now anyways....
[07:34] <jamie_1> which was the whole reason i was staying up
[07:35] <jamie_1> gn all
[07:35] <Riddrib> i want create a web site!
[07:35] <jamie_1> im building a camera app that is html5 and js
[07:35] <jamie_1> implemented with webrtc
[07:35] <rcmainak> Riddrib, join free code camp
[07:36] <Riddrib> ok
[07:38] <Riddrib> where I can get the tools?
[07:39] <rcmainak> what tools you want?
[07:39] <Riddrib> like code for camera
[07:40] <lazyninja_> do you have an SDK?
[07:40] <Riddrib> i can download
[07:40] <Ascavasaion> Can I ask what he difference is between gdm and gdm3?  Besides the version number hehe
[07:40] <Riddrib> eclipse
[07:41] <jamie_1> Riddrib: do you mean the html camera resources or code?
[07:41] <jamie_1> if so thats not an sdk.. its just and api call
[07:42] <Riddrib> everything necessary
[07:42] <jamie_1> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaDevices/getUserMedia
[07:42] <Riddrib> parts of the structure
[07:43] <lazyninja_> hmmm
[07:43] <lazyninja_> depends on the language you are going to use...
[07:43] <lazyninja_> let's say it's python...  then you can use computer vision (cv#)...  example
[07:43] <lazyninja_> https://paste.gnome.org/p0hx9k1rr
[07:43] <jamie_1> lazyninja_: person stated earlier webpage
[07:44] <Riddrib> so i need read a book and practice
[07:45] <rcmainak> hey can anyone help me with this problem -> https://gist.github.com/RCMainak/68787e49886e59a8ccddd3506ba958f3 <- the gist contains the description of the problem
[07:45] <jamie_1> Riddrib: start here... https://www.codecademy.com/
[07:46] <jamie_1> it has several langages... anything from java to html to ruby on rails
[07:47] <jamie_1> its where we usually point people over on moznet that want to get involved but dont know code.
[07:53] <rcmainak> I'm getting an error -> https://gist.github.com/RCMainak/68787e49886e59a8ccddd3506ba958f3 ; Can anyone tell me how to fix this issue?
[08:03] <sarek> this is an awesome answer. look at 3) http://superuser.com/a/319880/201967
[08:14] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: aiui, gdm3 (like the other gnome3 thingies) lack several features from earlier versions, things like xdmcp support etc.
[08:21] <sam__> before ur command
[08:24] <aladdin> it's me bitches
[08:24] <jejones-Mac> haha aladdin nice
[08:25] <iamwhitebox> done
[08:26] <aladdin> I am praying I didn't contract an sd from that whore in vegas
[08:26] <iamwhitebox> ahaha
[08:27] <Flannel> aladdin: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support, please take non-support discussions elsewhere, thanks.
[08:28] <aladdin> sorry
[08:39] <blackbird_> Hi all
[08:40] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Thank you.
[08:49] <blackbird_> We all know that the maximum file size in *nix FS is 2 TiB. (for 1 KiB block size).
[08:49] <blackbird_> But in the video compute: 10 KiB + 256 KiB + 64 MiB + 16 GiB which is less than 2 TiB.
[08:49] <blackbird_> from 0 to 9th block = 10KiB
[08:49] <blackbird_> single indirection = 256 KiB
[08:49] <blackbird_> double indirection = 64 MiB
[08:49] <blackbird_> triple indirection = 16 GiB
[08:51] <blackbird_> We all know that the maximum file size in *nix FS is 2 TiB. (for 1 KiB block size).
[08:51] <blackbird_> But in the video compute: 10 KiB + 256 KiB + 64 MiB + 16 GiB which is less than 2 TiB.
[08:51] <blackbird_> https://youtu.be/hZpom8ouYD8?t=2758
[08:52] <blackbird_> Is this right ?
[08:53] <ducasse> blackbird_: isn't that a better question for ##linux?
[08:54] <blackbird_> Ok, sorry
[09:04] <rictoo> hey guys! i have a bunch of files that got messed up user/group id's ... basically i need to convert e.g., 4 -> 100004, 104 -> 100104, etc. etc.
[09:04] <rictoo> whats the best way to do thsi?
[09:06] <john_rambo> I cant mount my external HDD .... lsusb shows the drive >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051254/
[09:07] <ducasse> john_rambo: can lsblk see it?
[09:08] <john_rambo> ducasse: Yes >> V
[09:08] <john_rambo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051259/
[09:09] <ducasse> john_rambo: and what happens when you try to mount it?
[09:10] <john_rambo> ducasse: It shows busy sign and stays like that for a long time
[09:10] <ducasse> john_rambo: try 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'
[09:11] <glitchd> has anyone come across the problem with the panel clock, that when u set it and close the gui, it disappears from the panel?
[09:12] <john_rambo> ducasse: Done .... but when I browse to /mnt with file manager it still shows busy sign
[09:13] <ducasse> john_rambo: does 'ls /mnt' show your files?
[09:13] <john_rambo> ducasse: Yes
[09:13] <glitchd> is anyone using xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 16.04?
[09:14] <christ0d> i am on one of my notebooks
[09:15] <ducasse> john_rambo: then the problem is with the file manager, sounds like it is hung. you can try to log out and in again, see if that clears it up.
[09:15] <christ0d> upgraded last night to 16.04 LTS > restarted, some small issues but working now.
[09:15] <john_rambo> Okay ducasse
[09:17] <RalphBa> good morning
[09:18] <christ0d> good morning @RalpBa
[09:20] <rcmainak> I'm getting a wired error just after turning on my pc. Anyone wanna help?
[09:22] <RalphBa> what error?
[09:22] <RalphBa> rcmainak: what error?
[09:22] <rcmainak> RalphBa, https://gist.github.com/RCMainak/68787e49886e59a8ccddd3506ba958f3 <- please it
[09:23] <rcmainak> *check it
[09:23] <Delicates> Anyone can think of a tool that can monitor health of a box, through real time, or logs, and can provide a simple dashboard to alert when anything starts going wrong - e.g. HD I/O failures, processes going RAM or network hungry, etc.?
[09:23] <RalphBa> rcmainak: where exactly you get this error?
[09:24] <rcmainak> RalphBa, I turned on my pc & a red circle appeared on the upper right side just beside the network icon
[09:25] <ducasse> Delicates: nagios/icinga etc? there are many.
[09:25] <RalphBa> so your pc is booting up sucessfully. try to run on terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[09:26] <rcmainak> okay
[09:27] <Delicates> ducasse: I was starting to look into Nagios, thanks
[09:28] <rcmainak> RalphBa, can you tell me what that command supposed to do?
[09:28] <christ0d> anyone running Nagios? guy that works with me uses it, says its awesome, very customizable
[09:28] <RalphBa> rcmainak: to me it seems, that at your last package installation something went wrong. apt-get -f install iss supposed to resolve this
[09:29] <RalphBa> rcmainak: either by installing missing packages or by uninstalling buggy packages
[09:30] <RalphBa> rcmainak: it would be nice to post the output of that command so we can see what happened and if a bugreport is neccessary
[09:30] <rcmainak> RalphBa, yup updating the gist
[09:30] <RalphBa> thanks
[09:31] <RalphBa> from "man apt-get": -f, --fix-broken
[09:33] <RalphBa> rcmainak: ok, seems not to be broken. please execute following one after the other
[09:33] <RalphBa> sudo apt-get update
[09:33] <RalphBa> this will update your sources to the newest
[09:33] <RalphBa> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:33] <rcmainak> "from "man apt-get": -f, --fix-broken" what this does? RalphBa
[09:33] <RalphBa> this should upgrade the 17 packages mentioned in the output
[09:34] <rcmainak> okay
[09:34] <RalphBa> sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:34] <RalphBa> will remove the no longer required packages
[09:34] <rcmainak> wait a sec.
[09:34] <RalphBa> rcmainak: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[09:34] <rcmainak> from: invalid option -- '-'
[09:34] <rcmainak> usage: from [-c] [-f file] [-s sender] [user]
[09:35] <RalphBa> rcmainak: that was just an info from the manpage for you to see whats apt-get -f install
[09:36] <RalphBa> everything you should execute had a leading sudo
[09:36] <rcmainak> ooh
[09:36] <RalphBa> take a look into the link I sent you (Options, second option), then you will understand
[09:37] <elebedinskiy> есть Белгород в чате?
[09:37] <elebedinskiy> Россия
[09:38] <bekks> !ru | elebedinskiy
[09:38] <elebedinskiy> супер - спасибо
[09:41] <rcmainak> RalphBa, when I do sudo apt-get update it shows me some error message at the end. check the gist I've added the whole thing
[09:42] <RalphBa> rcmainak: well I see the problem. using ppa's can be unstable and dangerous. I fear for your experience level you used way to many of them. Here you've got multiple problems
[09:42] <rcmainak> what's the solution now?
[09:43] <RalphBa> rcmainak: one problem, certain ppa's seems to be dead. some are not authorized.
[09:43] <RalphBa> rcmainak: the solution consists of three steps
[09:44] <RalphBa> rcmainak: 1. think about what you really need
[09:44] <rcmainak> hmm
[09:44] <RalphBa> rcmainak: 2. sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[09:45] <RalphBa> rcmainak: 3. for example "sudo ppa-purge kilian/f.lux" for all you do not need or at least those throwing errors
[09:46] <rcmainak> okay.
[09:46] <RalphBa> rcmainak: which ubuntu are you using? I suppose ubuntu mate? which version?
[09:46] <rcmainak> nope, Ubuntu 16.04
[09:47] <RalphBa> rcmainak: so why I see Hit:22 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/welcome/ubuntu xenial/main here?
[09:48] <rcmainak> I've installed the Ubuntu mate welcome wizard. it is a handy application to figure out which applications I actually need :p
 hey guys, having 'chown -h $y $i' in a shell script, it doesn't understand the $y, even though if i "echo" it, it is a number
 chown -h 1000 $i works, for example.
[09:49] <rictoo> i get: chown: changing ownership of './hello': Invalid argument
[09:49] <RalphBa> rcmainak: for explaination. yes you could theoretically install the latest mate on an ubuntu installation, BUT. 1. mate dev is unstable by definition. 2. the packages of one desktop env may install other packages which conflict with unity packages and need experience to resolve them
[09:50] <ducasse> rictoo: please stop crossposting your questions
[09:50] <rictoo> why? these are two different channels
[09:51] <rictoo> i've crossposted for 10 years im not stopping now
[09:51] <christ0d> lol
[09:51] <rcmainak> RalphBa, okay! i'll bother Wimpress for fixing that if that's possible.
[09:51] <ducasse> rictoo: ask in one and wait for an answer.
[09:52] <rcmainak> RalphBa, what i need to do to remove all the unauthenticated ppa repos. i only need sublime-text though
[09:52] <RalphBa> rcmainak: wimpress? it is possible, you just need to get your system clean with ppa-purge. afterwards you can again try to use ppa's but please with caution and patience
[09:53] <RalphBa> not all at once :D
[09:53] <rcmainak> roger that.
[09:53] <rcmainak> I've installed ppa-purge
[09:54] <RalphBa> my tipp would just be to remove one after the other and always do an apt-get update to see whats left
[09:54] <RalphBa> if you want to avoid the need of typing sudo all the time, type sudo -i once
[09:55] <RalphBa> and exit after you are finished
[09:56] <RalphBa> afterwards you should reboot
[10:03] <rcmainak> RalphBa, I got some errors. Are you still here?
[10:03] <RalphBa> rcmainak: yes
[10:03] <rcmainak> I PMed you. have you seen that?
[10:03] <rcmainak> RalphBa, ^
[10:06] <rictoo> so the problem was uid cannot > 65535 on this system
[10:14] <kittykitty> I saw that some people were having problems with windows anniversary update deleting their Linux partitions. Anyone know if it's safe or not??
[10:14] <kittykitty> The only solution I've seen is to just wipe windows. Not very helpful. Only really use it to play a single game :(
[10:16] <ducasse> kittykitty: there have been reports, yes, but i don't know how common the problem is.
[10:16] <kittykitty> Ducasse, have you tried it?
[10:17] <ducasse> kittykitty: haven't used windows in over a decade, so no.
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> kittykitty  ducasse so the windows update ruins partitions?
[10:17] <kittykitty> Wish I could just leave it ducasse
[10:18] <kittykitty> MonkeyDust I've read that yeah.
[10:18] <kittykitty> Not sure how true it is though. The articles haven't really got the best comments
[10:18] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: aiui, it wipes partitions it doesn't recognize from the partition table on some setups.
[10:19] <kittykitty> What setups though? I've seen lots about MBR but why is anyone using that anymore? Doesn't win 10 refuse install on non gpt efi?
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> as for me, i just started experimenting with btrfs partitions
[10:19] <christ0d> btrfs?
[10:20] <kittykitty> I heard it might be brtfs only
[10:20] <kittykitty> Don't even know what brtfs is lol. I have efi, ext4 and a virtual one from Ubuntu default install
[10:21] <christ0d> i know ext3,4 etc but not brtfs
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> !btrfs
[10:21] <christ0d> thanks for the link lemme have a look
[10:22] <kittykitty> http://www.myce.com/news/windows-10-anniversary-update-kills-linux-partions-80128/
[10:26] <ducasse> christ0d: you might want to be careful if you want to play with btrfs, though. make sure to have verified backups.
[10:26] <kittykitty> Should we not update or??
[10:27] <christ0d> im reading ya, think like you say have backups. cool idea about the snapshots.
[10:27] <ducasse> kittykitty: as long as you backup the partition table, my guess is you should be fine.
[10:27] <temmi_hoo> backuping the whole partitions would be safer though
[10:28] <temmi_hoo> i'd really recommend not running multiple environments on the same machine
[10:28] <ubuntu350> hey! anyone know where ~/.xprofile is sourced? it does executed but im not sure from where
[10:28] <ducasse> christ0d: i similar option is zfs, which is very stable.
[10:28] <temmi_hoo> the windows can be run inside a vm that only sees its own virtual block storage thus leaving the real storage partitions/volumes/whatever safe from windos havock
[10:29] <temmi_hoo> ubuntu350: Xsession shell script sources ~/.xsession and ~/.xprofile before that
[10:29] <christ0d> i dont think multiple environmnents is a good idea with this. to many things that can go wrong. keep it simple
[10:29] <temmi_hoo> christ0d: indeed
[10:29] <temmi_hoo> multiboot is deprecated anyway now that we have well working hypervisors for all platforms
[10:29] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: i cant find where it sources .xprofile in /etc/X11/Xsession*
[10:29] <ubuntu350> .xsession and .xsessionrc are both sourced though
[10:30] <christ0d> well at least we see there are some guys out there creating awesome tech. one of these days its default
[10:31] <temmi_hoo> you can keep any which you wish as the main platform and run the others in virtual machines
[10:32] <temmi_hoo> ubuntu350: oh that's annoying.. any which way i'm speaking from memory and haven't checked lately but still it's driven more or less from Xsession that the *dm runs on behalf of the user that drives the whole session
[10:33] <christ0d> brb
[10:33] <temmi_hoo> meaning if you wish to create a special user that has only xeyes running, you're completely free in doing so even though regular users run some kind of window manager or desktop environment
[10:34] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: yea, there doesnt seem to be any really good best practices for which .x* files when configuring your environment - different from different dms and distributions
[10:34] <temmi_hoo> ... christ0d just to contemplate: it might be that .xprofile is read by xinit/startx and .xsession by Xsession meaning that .xprofile might not be read at all under *dm
[10:35] <temmi_hoo> the tradition started with xdm is to run Xsession as the user and have Xsession drive everything just like traditional init runs /etc/rc that then defines how the system actually starts
[10:36] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: # grep -R xprofile /etc
[10:36] <ubuntu350> *nada*
[10:36] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: # grep xprofile /usr/bin/startx
[10:37] <ubuntu350> *nothing*
[10:37] <christ0d> make sense
[10:37] <temmi_hoo> anyway I'd just put everything in the .xsession file and forger about .xprofile
[10:37] <temmi_hoo> much like you're better off not having .profile and putting things in your .bashrc .zshrc .kshrc and so on
[10:38] <temmi_hoo> s/forger/forget/
[10:39] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: the man basically says .xsession is for running x clients on startup - im trying to configure the xserver rather than start xclients and .xprofile seem to be the best option for those kind of configurations
[10:39] <ubuntu350> i know its not that strict, but im trying to do it the "right way(tm)" this time around :)
[10:39] <Titas> Hello guys ;)
[10:40] <temmi_hoo> ubuntu350: i'm not sure which server options you can change after the fact that server already was started before running any *dm
[10:41] <lohfu> hi... does the ubuntu server have the access to the same packages as normal ubuntu?
[10:41] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: worded that badly perhaps, im setting the resolution, refresh rate, disabling screensaver etc
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> lohfu  yes
[10:41] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: maybe that's still valid things to do in .xsession?
[10:42] <lohfu> do you think i can still amd drivers without installing X?
[10:42] <lohfu> need opencl capabilities
[10:43] <kittykitty> so, how do we run windows in a hypervisor??
[10:43] <kittykitty> i have it installed on a disk right now, can i just do that?
[10:44] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: this page also seem to sate to use .xprofile for stuff like that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[10:44] <ducasse> ubuntu350: i just run all that in .xsession, it doesn't really matter. aiui, .xprofile is for env variables you want accessible to the wm and all clients.
[10:45] <ubuntu350> ducasse: i know it doesnt matter in a strict sense, but im looking for what the supposed way to do things
[10:46] <ubuntu350> although, so far most people seem to say different things, so there might not be a "right way" to do it
[10:46] <temmi_hoo> ubuntu350 try inserting into .xprofile something like this and see from a terminal if you see the effects: export X_FOOBAR_TEST=HAHAHA
[10:46] <temmi_hoo> i'm guessing .xprofile is not sourced under normal *dm managed x session
[10:46] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: yea that is not the problem, .xprofile is sourced, im just looking for where it is
[10:47] <ubuntu350> or rather, im looking for which component is doing the sourcing
[10:47] <ubuntu350> just to learn where stuff is happening
[10:47] <temmi_hoo> ah the best kind of learning
[10:47] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, you mentioned running windows separate from linux entirely??
[10:48] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: you can use virtualbox to run windows in a virtual machine
[10:48] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, isnt that like, super slow?
[10:49] <kittykitty> if i just clone the disk it's on into a vdi and then copy it back onto the disk it was using that would work right?
[10:49] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: i found it!
[10:49] <ubuntu350>  /usr/sbin/lightdm-session
[10:50] <ducasse> kittykitty: it depends on your system, which cpu you have etc. with virt extensions performance is generally good.
[10:50] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: i'm not sure i'm grokking the copy back phase, i always try to give virtual mahcines statically allocated disk image files
[10:51] <temmi_hoo> ubuntu350: oh not xdm then.. :D i'm not used to these newfangled display managers that in my view don't offer anything xdm doesn't already do in less bloated manner
[10:51] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, if i static it to the same size as the drive its on now?
[10:51] <kittykitty> ducasse, if i use dmidecode it should say?
[10:51] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: if you just want to dd the contents, yes
[10:52] <kittykitty> ducasse, it has VME (Virtual mode extension) as a flag
[10:52] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, i just don't want it to show up in grub incase i boot it accidently lol
[10:52] <ducasse> kittykitty: look at /proc/cpuinfo
[10:52] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: yea its just what ubuntu was packaged with :) still not sure what the purpose is for all the files, /etc/profile /etc/xprofile ~/.xprofile seem to be for "profiles" whatever that means
[10:53] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: that's the reason you give virtual machines their storage vdi as separate files from the host drive that are just normal files from host point of view
[10:53] <ubuntu350> while /etc/X11/Xresources and ~/.Xresources is for "resources" - also not very descriptive
[10:53] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, how do i go about cloning it into a vdi then?
[10:54] <kittykitty> ducasse, what flag am i looking for? And duh, i cant believe i didnt think of that before!
[10:54] <kittykitty> ducasse, vmx?
[10:55] <ducasse> kittykitty: vmx or svm, yes
[10:56] <ducasse> ubuntu350: ~/.Xresources is for setting resources for clients who use those, yes. most clients now use their own config files or other methods like dconf, but rxvt for instance still uses x resources.
[10:58] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: if you clone the disk device into a vdi, you'll end up with same sized file that the device was so hosting the file on the drive it was made from is kind of paradoxical
[10:58] <notfbi> i see dwm is offered as a group which pulls xterm. i feel insulted  http://st.suckless.org/
[10:59] <jatt> xterm is a very nice piece of software
[10:59] <ubuntu350> ducasse: but what are resources?
[10:59] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, maybe i can make a new fixed disk and boot linux to clone the partitions? But like, make them smaller on the physical disk first?
[11:00] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: this is getting way too complex to discuss without making diagrams and waving hands physically on the same table over coffee
[11:00] <notfbi> it's a slap in the face to be distributed as dwm dependancy  http://st.suckless.org/
[11:01] <kittykitty> hahaha temmi_hoo it is
[11:01] <temmi_hoo> x resources are like standardized way to tell x clients their configuration, much like environment variables but better/different/something and in a bit more hierarchial way
[11:01] <ducasse> ubuntu350: resources are config options, basically.
[11:02] <ubuntu350> ducasse: is there any difference?
[11:02] <ducasse> ubuntu350: between what?
[11:02] <ubuntu350> "config options" and "resources"
[11:03] <temmi_hoo> same thing
[11:03] <ducasse> ubuntu350: not really, x resources are just a way to communicate them to clients.
[11:04] <ducasse> notfbi: xterm is a recommends of dwm, not a dependency.
[11:04] <ducasse> notfbi: any other terminal emulator will also fill that recommend.
[11:04] <temmi_hoo> x resources are managed by the x server so you can set XTerm.xyz.blah in one terminal window and it's immediately available to all
[11:05] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, i have VERR_ACCESS_DENIED when trying to mount the disk. I don't need to make the windows drive in /dev readable by anyone do i??? I don't want to run virtualbox as root
[11:05] <ubuntu350> temmi_hoo: ducasse: alright thanks!
[11:06] <temmi_hoo> kittykitty: we're also discussing details outside of my personal knowledge, i'm running virtualbox on a mac and haven't any recent experience in running windows inside a vm
[11:07] <kittykitty> temmi_hoo, thanks for your help anyway. I've used it the other way around before, had to run as admin on windows for it to work
[11:10] <temmi_hoo> anyhow i know people run windows in virtual machines routinely on both ubuntu hosts and mac hosts and are being pretty happy about it
[11:18] <christ0d> im running xubuntu on my notebook, and virtualbox to host win7 for when i give class
[11:18] <EriC^^> has anyone gotten virtualbox + win to work in uefi mode?
[11:19] <bekks> The UEFI implementation of virtualbox is specifically designed to support OSX only.
[11:19] <ovrflw0x> how to reduce unity dock size?
[11:19] <EriC^^> bekks: i see
[11:19] <bekks> It does not implement all UEFI features, etc., and thus you will have issues when not using OSX as guest OS.
[11:20] <EriC^^> aha
[11:21] <drake756596596> what happen if i crash the pc?
[11:22] <bekks> Depends on what you crash your PC with.
[11:22] <drake756596596> with a spoon
[11:23] <bekks> drake756596596: Then you better search for another network accepting your trolling. This is the wrong one.
[11:24] <drake756596596> im not trolling
[11:24] <drake756596596> my little sister did it
[11:24] <drake756596596> and i want to know what to do
[11:24] <drake756596596> haaagahahha
[11:24] <EriC^^> xD
[11:25] <drake756596596> eks di
[11:25]  * EriC^^ can't tell if you're a newbie or pro troll
[11:25] <OerHeks> multi-channel troll
[11:26] <ovrflw0x> how to reduce unity dock size?
[11:26] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, systemsettings - appearance
[11:26] <drake756596596> you have to pentest your new ddh if u wnt to unlok a new dock to bg size
[11:34] <notfbi> ducasse, http://s10.postimg.org/bkl1ev7p5/ubuntunet16041.png
[11:35] <notfbi> ducasse, http://s10.postimg.org/bkl1ev7p5/ubuntunet16041.png
[11:36] <ducasse> notfbi: did you read what i wrote? try to install with --no-install-recommends
[11:37] <notfbi> cool
[11:43] <ngomes> hello ! dpkg -S filename searchs for file on matching package. i tryed dpkg -S /etc/hosts and find no package . does anyone knows how this file appears ?
[11:44] <HelpeRX> having trouble rememeber the  commnad to edit partition cgi /dev/sda right?
[11:44] <OerHeks> ngomes, ls -la /etc/hosts # there are no packages there, just config file(s)
[11:45] <pictionary> HelpeRX: try cfdisk or fdisk
[11:45] <ngomes> OerHeks, i know what /etc/ and /etc/hosts is . that's not what i'm asking
[11:46] <ngomes> OerHeks, this file is generated , how to search what renerates it ?
[11:46] <HelpeRX> there was a anohter command i am looking for specifcally just having a brain fart used it yesterday like cgi disk /dev/sda or something
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> HelpeRX  cgi means common gateway interface... what do you want to do or achieve
[11:46] <trijntje_> HelpeRX: the history command might help you out ;)
[11:47] <HelpeRX> i always use the command but i just cant rem it sigh
[11:47] <HelpeRX> its the gpt viewing and additon partition
[11:47] <HelpeRX> its not gdisk or cgdisk or fdisk
[11:47] <trijntje_> HelpeRX: type in 'history' in the terminal
[11:47] <HelpeRX> cant used it during install
[11:48] <pictionary> cgdisk?
[11:48] <HelpeRX> YES
[11:48] <HelpeRX> THANKS
[11:48] <HelpeRX> wow
[11:48] <HelpeRX> brain fart i was so annoyed
[11:49] <OerHeks> ngomes, i have no idea what package genereates /etc/hosts during install
[11:49] <ngomes> OerHeks, ok thanks
[11:50] <OerHeks> ngomes, lets ask #debian?
[11:50] <iarp> Are you just wanting to re-create it? Why not by hand, it's only 2 lines
[11:50] <boyboyismyname> hello
[11:51] <ngomes> OerHeks, join #debian
[11:51] <ngomes> OerHeks, i joined #debian
[11:52] <pictionary> OerHeks: could it be the 'base-files' package?
[11:53] <OerHeks> could well be, i am looking into dns packages
[11:54] <boyboyismyname> how do i connect with my server?
[11:54] <iwhb4u> hi there!
[11:55] <pictionary> boyboyismyname: i think we'll need more detail about what you mean there...
[11:56] <MoxygeRen> excuse me, may i know how to launch the gnome menu app so i can launch other apps as well as i can log out, switch user and check the time? (i don't have the menu neither the top bar)
[11:56] <boyboyismyname> I Mean: How Do I Connect With My Channel??
[11:57] <pictionary> boynoyismyname: do you mean an IRC channel?
[11:57] <HelpeRX> THANKS AGAAIN BBL
[11:59] <boyboyismyname> Yes
[12:00] <pictionary> boyboyismyname: type "/join #" and then your channel name. For example: "/join #ubuntu"
[12:01] <MoxygeRen> my first user account on this box stopped to launch that menu. I'm over another account now on the same box
[12:02] <pictionary> moxygeRen: so one user is unable to launch GDM properly but another user can?
[12:02] <MoxygeRen> yes
[12:02] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen: Right Click The ABOVE TASKBAR And Select ADD TO PANEL And Scroll DOWN Until You See GNOME MAIN MENU.
[12:03] <pictionary> try moving the .config and .gnome and .gnome2 folders in the faulty accounts home directory to an alternative location and then login as that user
[12:03] <MoxygeRen> boyboyismyname: i'm over 16.04, is there a reason why i cannot see the ADD TO PANEL menu option?
[12:05] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen: Do You Mean 16.04  Items On The Panel?
[12:05] <MoxygeRen> no
[12:06] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen: What Do You Mean Then?
[12:07] <MoxygeRen> boyboyismyname: i can't see the panel
[12:07] <pictionary> moxygeRen: It sounds like that accounts Gdm config is messed up. Try removing the config folders and then logging in again
[12:08] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen: You Have To Reinstall Ubuntu MATE. :(
[12:09] <pictionary> the config folders you will want to remove are .gconf/.gnome/.gnome2/.gnome2_private and .local
[12:09] <MoxygeRen> :(
[12:09] <pictionary> gdm will recreate these on next login
[12:09] <MoxygeRen> :D
[12:09] <MoxygeRen> ok, let me see
[12:10] <MoxygeRen> brb
[12:10] <boyboyismyname> Ok MoxygeRen.
[12:10] <boyboyismyname> Oh Wait!
[12:10] <MoxygeRen> huh?
[12:11] <boyboyismyname> Leave The ChatRoom Open, Ok?
[12:13] <MoxygeRen> pictionary: there are no .gnome, .gnome2, .gnome2_private there (~)
[12:13] <MoxygeRen> they weren't there
[12:14] <MoxygeRen> ok, brb
[12:14] <pictionary> MoxygeRen: how did you list the contents of the home folder?
[12:14] <MoxygeRen> over the terminal
[12:14] <ngomes> OerHeks, /var/lib/dpkg/info/netbase.postinst postinst script for package netbase . looks like it
[12:14] <pictionary> what command exactly please
[12:14] <MoxygeRen> by ls -la
[12:15] <pictionary> ok :-)
[12:15] <pictionary> was .local there?
[12:15] <MoxygeRen> yup
[12:15] <pictionary> ok - delete or move them out of the way - then login as normal
[12:15] <MoxygeRen> i backed the other two up
[12:15] <MoxygeRen> ok, i'll go there now
[12:15] <MoxygeRen> brb
[12:16] <boyboyismyname> Oh!, MoxygeRen, Login As Guest Session.
[12:17] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen??
[12:17] <boyboyismyname> Hello???
[12:22] <linocisco> hi all
[12:23] <linocisco> I am now trying to copy the folders and files from external HDD to laptop HDD.  some of them are already copied the other day. I need to copy all the rest. How could I automate?
[12:24] <boyboyismyname> How do i download wine 1.7?
[12:24] <pictionary> linocisco: it sounds like a job for rsync
[12:24] <linocisco> pictionary, how to do it?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:25] <godhax> linocisco: wouldn't copy/paste do the job?
[12:25] <christ0d> lol
[12:25] <boyboyismyname> wine is a application for windows and GNU/linux. You can extract .exe files for linux.
[12:25] <pictionary> linociso: have a quick read of the rsync man page - but I believe you can probably just do "rsync -a /external/hdd/folder /laptop/folder
[12:26] <linocisco> godhax,yes. I am doing verifying each individual folders rather than mass copy. Otherwise, copying process on ubuntu takes so longer than windows
[12:29] <Haled> can apt-get dist-upgrade send you from 3.X kernel to 4.X?
[12:30] <boyboyismyname>  /join #ubuntu
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> boyboyismyname  you're already in #ubuntu
[12:34] <linocisco> Pici, thanks. but How can I see progress of files and folders being copied?
[12:34] <pictionary> try "--progress" as an argument to rsync
[12:35] <MoxygeRen> hi there
[12:35] <lohfu> hi have now installed ubuntu on a partition, but tried to avoid installing grub. i already run arch and would like to use my current syslinux setup. exactly how do i write this in syslinux.cfg
[12:35] <MoxygeRen> it didn't helped :(
[12:37] <linocisco> pictionary, but I issued the command already
[12:37] <boyboyismyname> MoxyreGen: Hi!!
[12:37] <pictionary> linocisco: just cancel it and start it again with the argument
[12:37] <MoxygeRen> now my irc client is blocked :(
[12:38] <OerHeks> lohfu, start the live iso, and use ' ubiquity --no-bootloader ' to install
[12:38] <pictionary> MoxygenRen: Do you get anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[12:39] <lohfu> OerHeks: i i think i managed to install without grub... just need to know how to edit the syslinux.cfg
[12:39] <lohfu> should it look something like this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Base/InstallationExample?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=5+-+syslinux.png
[12:41] <OerHeks> lohfu, oh that i don't know :-(
[12:41] <lohfu> do i need to copy my initrd.img and vmlinux-* files to my syslinux boot drive?
[12:41] <paschalis> I was having some issues the otherday with the network, and people were helping me from here.. problem now solved.. but is anyone of these guys now around now?
[12:42] <he1kki> htop
[12:43] <OerHeks> paschalis, find the names in the log perhaps?? https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[12:44] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen?
[12:46] <paschalis> oh.. I hoped that someone would be around, instead of digging the logs.. I just wanted to tell them that the reason was:
[12:47] <_adb> morning. what's that paschalis?
[12:47] <boyboyismyname> ...
[12:47] <paschalis> the router!! just because it didn't "like" that particular IP!! I set a different one, the one that I had earlier and connection was fine!
[12:47] <lohfu> yeah it worked
[12:48] <paschalis> so here network configuration is really bad. to get static IP you just set it on your machine, and hope that nobody else will use it! and if it happens that you get one that the router does not "like" , you waste your life to find out!
[12:50] <paschalis> morning? I am about to go to sleep! :)  (Korea here!)
[12:50] <OerHeks> paschalis, to avoid dhcp giving that ip to a client, choose one out of the range
[12:50] <OerHeks> some routers can assign an ip to a mac adress too
[12:51] <paschalis> yes, but if you don't set one, and the dhcp automatically/randomly does it for you, then it shouldn't mess around with your connection!
[12:52] <paschalis> where do I find the range?
[12:53] <OerHeks> paschalis, that would be defined in your router.
[12:53] <OerHeks> gateway, range dhcp
[12:53] <paschalis> oh ok, but I don't have access to it!
[12:53] <boyboyismyname> Ubuntu MATE Is The Best OS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:54] <OerHeks> paschalis, *if* you cannot set it there, choose a high number in the range, like 192.168.1.250
[12:54] <OerHeks> unlikely that that ip will be given way
[12:54] <paschalis> oh okay! thanks!
[12:54] <OerHeks> yw
[12:56] <paschalis> so, I know geteway, and subnet/mask. do these give me the range
[12:56] <paschalis> sorry if it's a really stupid question :P
[12:56] <OerHeks> no, those numbers are static
[12:57] <Guido1> Hello, I would like to clean up my Linux. I know that linux is storring un needed files by updates. I'm not sure if that is the only wasted space. How can I clean all that?
[12:57] <pictionary> paschalis: if your switch/router also does DNS its likely that DHCP leases are registered there. People who set static probably won't get registered. You could request reverse DNS lookups against the router for everything in the 2-254 range and see what addresses come back
[12:57] <Haagar> range of IP adress are defined by subnet mask
[12:58] <pictionary> that may tell you what IP ranges the switch/router hands out for DHCP
[12:58] <OerHeks> Haagar, well that is true, but complicated to explain to someone who has no access to the router itself
[12:59] <OerHeks> he wants to avoid double lease
[13:00] <bq_> how to get/set system default encoding?
[13:00] <Haagar> with subnet mask you can manipulate how many hosts you want (how many IP adress)
[13:00] <MoxygeRen> pictionary: i'm about to check ~/.xsession-errors
[13:01] <MoxygeRen> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[13:01] <MoxygeRen> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[13:01] <MoxygeRen> that's all
[13:01] <ducasse> Haagar: yes, but dhcp leases may be given from a smaller subset than the subnet mask.
[13:02] <pictionary> moxy: can you try moving that user's folder and creating a new one with the same name - then relogin
[13:03] <MoxygeRen> ok
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Guido1  i use the 3rd party app 'ubuntu-tweak', to that end ... use the Janitor ... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu-tweak_0.8.7-1~getdeb2~xenial_all.deb
[13:03] <boyboyismyname> Tip: If You Can Not Find Your Wifi Connection, Try To Enable Wifi Instead Of Ethernet, If That Still Won't Work Then Put Your Device Closer To The Wifi. :D
[13:04] <MoxygeRen> it's just moving the folder away, right?
[13:04] <pictionary> Moxy: yes
[13:04] <MoxygeRen> ok
[13:04] <boyboyismyname> MoxygeRen!!! :D
[13:04] <MoxygeRen> lets try
[13:04] <MoxygeRen> hey, ya, boyboyismyname
[13:04] <MoxygeRen> brb
[13:05] <Guido1> MonkeyDust: I think that there was a comment for the command line as well, but I forgot what it was.
[13:05] <OerHeks> boyboyismyname, how helpfull .. i always look in the air
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Guido1  try sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[13:06] <paschalis> okay. so gateway cannot give me the range. the addresses that come back are the ones that may be given by dhcp? and the ones that do not come back can be used for static IPs?
[13:07] <OerHeks> paschalis, trial & error, find out yourself
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Guido1  also try    sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[13:08] <MoxygeRen> pictionary: the folder doesn't exist now, but the thing is now it doesn't logon
[13:08] <lmao_> Hello, why is there a mount option for subvol on btrfs? Why would someone not mount / ?
[13:08] <MoxygeRen> i moved the folder away
[13:08] <MoxygeRen> i have it backed up
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> lmao_  better ask in #btrfs
[13:09] <lmao_> ok
[13:09] <kinobe> hi all.. i'm running lubuntu 16.04 LTS on a core2duo laptop. Fresh install, barely got anything on it and it's very laggy while surfing. if i go back to 14.x LTS would it help?
[13:09] <MoxygeRen> s/logon/login/
[13:10] <ducasse> lmao_: snapshots are subvols, for instance
[13:11] <Guest29803> kinobe, all drivers installed?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> kinobe  some tips : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051751/
[13:11] <pictionary> Moxy: did you create a new folder with the same name?
[13:12] <MoxygeRen> no
[13:12] <MoxygeRen> should i?
[13:12] <pictionary> yes - create it with the same name and chowned to the same user:group
[13:12] <MoxygeRen> well, i guess i should
[13:12] <MoxygeRen> ok
[13:13] <MoxygeRen> and, what about .bashrx, .profile, .bash_logout?
[13:13] <lmao_> ducasse: why would you mount the subvol=/home then?
[13:13] <lmao_> why not just ROOT?
[13:13] <MoxygeRen> .bashrc*
[13:13] <pictionary> moxy: just ignore them for now - you can copy them in once you've got your session working properly
[13:13] <jamieshepherd> Hey guys. Trying to figure out Tmux. I start a process running in tmux then cancel out. Process is still running. Cool. What about if I want to go back in and see the console logs?
[13:13] <MoxygeRen> ok
[13:14] <MoxygeRen> ok
[13:14] <MoxygeRen> brb
[13:14] <ducasse> lmao_: you wouldn't, typically, but you might want to mount a snapshot.
[13:15] <akik> lmao_: ubuntu creates a separate btrfs subvolume for /home too
[13:16] <lmao_> i still dont get the point
[13:17] <lmao_> no one would just mount subvol=/home
[13:17] <lmao_> this makes no sense
[13:17] <lmao_> i would mount just the whole root
[13:17] <akik> lmao_: no the subvol= mentions the snapshot
[13:17] <ducasse> lmao_: no, but snapshots are subvols
[13:17] <MoxygeRen> yay!
[13:17] <lmao_> akik: why would you mount just /home then?
[13:17] <MoxygeRen> menú and top bar are there now!
[13:17] <ducasse> lmao_: this isn't the place to teach you btrfs
[13:18] <lmao_> wow really thanks
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> lmao_  better ask in #btrfs
[13:18] <MoxygeRen> thank you, pictionary!
[13:18] <lmao_> i thought this is ubuntu baby channel
[13:18] <akik> lmao_: look into /etc/fstab. there you see a separate btrfs subvolume for / and for /home
[13:18] <lmao_> i dont have btrs installed
[13:18] <ducasse> lmao_: look, if you create a snapshot of / you might later want to mount that as the root fs, right?
[13:19] <pictionary> Moxy: Great - just copy in the bits you need from the old folder and logout/login occasionally to make sure none of them break you again
[13:19] <akik> lmao_: i've tested btrfs snapshots the last week and they work without a hitch
[13:20] <akik> but it's still manual editing to fix the paths
[13:22] <ducasse> lmao_: the whole point of snapshots is that they enable you to roll back the file system to an earlier state, so you would naturally want to be able to mount them.
[13:26] <jamieshepherd> Hey guys. Trying to figure out Tmux. I start a process running in tmux then cancel out. Process is still running. Cool. What about if I want to go back in and see the console logs?
[13:26] <akik> ducasse: i've read some guides on using btrfs snapshots. they mention using rsync to sync data. do you know why that is?
[13:28] <ducasse> akik: at a guess because send/receive is not ready for human consumption. don't know, though.
[13:29] <_adb> jamieshepherd: do you mean how to reattach to the existing tmux session? that's tmux attach. more tmux info here https://gist.github.com/MohamedAlaa/2961058
[13:29] <jamieshepherd> I guess I mean, I ssh into my server, I want to view the existing tmux session
[13:29] <NickMessing> Hello, I just installed 15.10 and upgraded to 16.04, after that computer freezes with purple screen, when I boot it without "quiet" and with "nosplash" everything is ok until I do startx, after that it freezes
[13:30] <ducasse> jamieshepherd: 'tmux a' to attach to the first available session.
[13:30] <jamieshepherd> Great, thanks ducasse
[13:30] <jamieshepherd> and to sessions where I know the ID?
[13:30] <ducasse> jamieshepherd: 'tmux list-sessions'
[13:31] <jamieshepherd> Yep, I know the ID of some of them, just wondering how to attach to a specific ID
[13:31] <jamieshepherd> tmux a #0 perhaps
[13:31] <ducasse> jamieshepherd: without the #
[13:32] <jamieshepherd> Cheers mate =)
[13:33] <BluesKaj> NickMessing, clean install /
[13:33] <ducasse> jamieshepherd: np. there's a few tmux cheat sheets online, can be very useful.
[13:34] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: 15.10 works fine but there is no support of my touchpad in 4.2 kernel, just in 4.4, while 16.04 doesn't install and 16.04 doesn't boot if upgraded from 15.10
[13:34] <BluesKaj> NickMessing, correction , clean install ?
[13:35] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: even nosplash doesn't boot now, just purple screen after grub
[13:36] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: I did not remove 4.2 kernel yet, let me try to boot with it
[13:37] <NickMessing> Okay, so here is the problem, ATM I have ubuntu 16.04 with 4.2 kernel and 4.4 kernel available, 4.2 works fine (but it doesn't support my touchpad) while 4.4 doesn't boot up
[13:37] <BluesKaj> ok NickMessing seems you want to do your own thing so I'll just back off
[13:37] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: if you asked about "was it clean install" - yes it was
[13:38] <OerHeks> odd, 4.2 kernel in 16.04 ... but you stated 16.04 does not boot.
[13:39] <NickMessing> OerHeks: I upgraded from 15.10 and I have 2 kernels available, 16.10 with 4.2 works fine while 16.10 with 4.4 doesn't boot
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> NickMessing  16.10 is not released yet, try in #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <NickMessing> 16.04, sorry
[13:40] <BluesKaj> clean install includes the default kernel which should be the 4.4 on 16.04
[13:41] <OerHeks> maybe startx crumbled your install, startx is depreciated for some time now..
[13:41] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: I did clean install of 15.10, then upgraded to 16.04 because clean install of 16.04 doesn't work
[13:41] <NickMessing> OerHeks: possible, but why don't default boot options work?
[13:43] <kinobe> @Guest29803, err what drivers? everything seems to work right off of install.. The only thing I can think of are nvidia drivers?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> NickMessing, i upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04.3  without a hitch. please describe doesn't boot , how far do you get in the boot process?
[13:44] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: purple screen right after GRUB menu is the last step, I don't even get to ubuntu logo
[13:44] <BluesKaj> NickMessing, can you get a VT/TTY login?
[13:45] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: I could with "nosplash" before, but can't repeat that now
[13:46] <NickMessing> I guess, it's all about stupid hardware I have, I got ASUS ROG GL552VX
[13:48] <BluesKaj> which gpu ?
[13:49] <NickMessing> BluesKaj: GTX 950M, should I try proprietary drivers?
[13:56] <NickMessing> How can I check what kernel is in use?
[13:57] <_adb> uname -a
[13:57] <BluesKaj> uname -a
[13:58] <NickMessing> Yeaaaah, I found it, after upgrade from 15.10 I had to boot up 4.2 kernel, then install proprietary GPU drivers then 4.4 kernel works fine
[13:58] <sam___> Anyone knows how can i install a kernel and switch to it in the boot loader ?
[13:59] <OerHeks> sam___,  installing an official kernel, gives an update to grub bootloader, you should be able to choose from there
[14:01] <NickMessing> I have 2 kernels at the moment, 4.2 and 4.4, how can I remove 4.2?
[14:02] <sam___> Cool since my home is the same
[14:02] <sam___> Xinitrc will be the same and so on for my session
[14:03] <OerHeks> NickMessing,  if that 4.2 is there because it was the previous kernel before upgrading, you don't. anyone has 2 kernels, current and the one before that to boot in recovery
[14:04] <NickMessing> OerHeks: thank you for the information
[14:06] <yoot> Hi
[14:06] <yoot> I can't access my laptop. It says "grub> " I wrote "boot" but it says "you need to load the kernel first"
[14:06] <EriC^^> yoot: try echo $prefix
[14:07] <yoot> funny
[14:07] <yoot> I know some scripting
[14:07] <yoot> help me please
[14:07] <EriC^^> i just did..
[14:07] <EriC^^> try echo $prefix and report what it says
[14:08] <yoot> nothing
[14:08] <yoot> empty
[14:08] <EriC^^> aha
[14:08] <EriC^^> try "ls -l" or just ls
[14:09] <yoot> ls -l ----> variable root isn't set
[14:09] <yoot> ls ------> hd0, cd0
[14:10] <yoot> and failure hd0, cd0
[14:10] <EriC^^> ok try ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[14:10] <yoot> some error message
[14:10] <EriC^^> you don't get any hd0,msdosX stuff?
[14:10] <EriC^^> or hd0,gptX ?
[14:11] <yoot> ls -----> hd0, cd0: failure reading sector 0x0 from 'hd0', failure reading sector 0x0 from 'hd0', failure reading sector 0x0 from 'cd0',
[14:12] <BluesKaj> might be a regular bios
[14:12] <BluesKaj> msdos table
[14:12] <EriC^^> yoot: that doesn't sound to good
[14:13] <Li> my xenial power settings doesn't allow me to choose Hibernate when the power is critically low! How can I enable that option?
[14:13] <EriC^^> yoot: try to boot a live usb and run a smart test on the hdd
[14:13] <yoot> How can I boot with usb on grub?
[14:14] <EriC^^> yoot: put the usb first in the boot order in the bios then reboot with it plugged in
[14:14] <yoot> One second please
[14:16] <OerHeks> Li, some computers in hybernate still uses power
[14:18] <OerHeks> Li if you don't have hybernate as option, see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/768136/how-can-i-hibernate-ubuntu-16-04
[14:27] <arulmagi> hi
[14:27] <subtle> hi
[14:29] <arulmagi> which disto is best for learning node.js
[14:30] <OerHeks> arulmagi, what answer do you expect in the official ubuntu support channel ?
[14:31] <arulmagi> will ubuntu be good for learning node.js?
[14:31] <OerHeks> sure, it works
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> arulmagi  yes
[14:32] <arulmagi> which ide in ubuntu will be best for programming node.js?
[14:32] <_adb> arulmagi: ubuntu can run node.js. lots of things can. if you're unfamiliar with ubuntu, however, be prepared to learn both ubuntu and node. questions of "best" in this context are generally matters of personal preference
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> arulmagi  'best' depends on what you like most
[14:33] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install nodejs nmp # and have fun
[14:33] <OerHeks> !ide
[14:34] <OerHeks> eclipse, geany ..
[14:34] <Fleuv> Hello, who can help me with testdisk i accidentally deleted the wrong site in my /var/www directory!
[14:34] <OerHeks> as there is no single best, try what you like best
[14:35] <Fleuv> I have to know what device its on and what partition type it is but I dont know anything about this stuff
[14:36] <ducasse> !recover | Fleuv
[14:36] <nac_33> hi to everyone
[14:37] <OerHeks> ext4magic - recover deleted files on ext3/4 filesystems, but i would not install it on that system, it might overwrite your lost data
[14:39] <nac_33> does someone tell me a free server for VPN. I mean only user and password to make it run
[14:39] <nac_33> thank you
[14:39] <ducasse> !ot | nac_33
[14:40] <OerHeks> nac_33, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[14:40] <nac_33> yeah I'm trying to set it up with ubuntu network manager
[14:41] <BluesKaj> nac_33, upenvpn? if so install network-manager-openvpn
[14:42] <nac_33> thank you
[14:42] <BluesKaj> nac_33, openvpn?
[14:42] <nac_33> ok...i gonna try iy
[14:42] <nac_33> it
[14:42] <laudace> `lsblk -fs` gives me multiple UUIDs for my root and swap drives, should I use the UUID for the actual fstype or LVM2_member in fstab?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> nac_33, I'm asking, does the vpn server support openvpn?
[14:43] <nac_33> yes
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:47] <newuser324> print screen button not working in ubuntu 16.04.1 - how to fix it ?
[14:48] <Jordan_U> laudace: Use the /dev/mapper/volume-name rather than any UUID. The lvm member is just a PV, and if you ever use LVM snapshots you'll end up with duplicate filesystem UUIDs.
[14:48] <unotir> Trump or Crocked Hillary
[14:49] <Jordan_U> unotir: Wrong channel. Only warning you'll get.
[14:50] <realies> lol
[14:50] <realies> btw, would the UUID be kept the same if I take a hard drive of another system and put it in another?
[14:51] <realies> *of one
[14:51] <OerHeks> newuser324, set shortcuts again? not sure why it is not working for you ..https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html
[14:51] <Jordan_U> realies: Yes. filesystem UUIDs are just a random number chosen at mkfs time and stored in the fileaystem.
[14:52] <realies> Jordan_U, thanks, good to know
[14:52] <Jordan_U> realies: You're welcome.
[14:52] <unotir> realies: it would really blow your mind of the uuid by changing just a slot or port of drive on same machine
[14:53] <newuser324> OerHeks: only alt+prtsc is working while prtsc, ctrl+prtsc or shift+prtsc not
[14:53] <Archeus> hello
[14:53] <Archeus> my wifi is not working properly
[14:53] <Archeus> tht includes
[14:54] <realies> that actually answers why I had the same UUIDs when I used ddrescue to clone a hard drive
[14:54] <Archeus> constantly  disconnects , very very slow speed
[14:54] <Archeus> what should i do ?
[14:55] <unotir> Jordan_U: I don't think you answered realies question. You skirted around it about the uuid
[14:55] <realies> Archeus, I think you'd need a bit more details than that, make sure it's not the router first?
[14:56] <realies> unotir, I think he got the "Yes." bit right if not all :-)
[14:58] <unotir> realies: sometimes a simple yes or no.
[14:58] <Archeus> no its not
[14:59] <Archeus> sry i had to go
[14:59] <Archeus> had a phone call to attend
[14:59] <realies> irrelevant
[14:59] <Archeus> my router is working perfectly fine
[14:59] <Archeus> on other devices
[14:59] <newuser324> OerHeks: as suggested by you I went to system settings > Shortcuts > Screenshots and for experiments sake reassigned all the keys and now none are working including the previous working combination of alt+prtsc
[14:59] <ducasse> Archeus: which wifi chipset?
[14:59] <Archeus> idk ?
[15:00] <realies> that's a good starting point I guess
[15:00] <jkasdjf> Hi! I have a problem wherein I was using unetbootin to create a bootable USB. I accidentally selected my efi/boot partition to install the iso on, and now it's run out of space. I can still boot up into my system, but whenever I boot it tells me EFI disk is full
[15:00] <Archeus> how to know ?
[15:00] <jkasdjf> how can I clean out what I did?
[15:00] <realies> or maybe the signal strength that your chip says it gets
[15:00] <jkasdjf> boot/efi * pardon
[15:00] <realies> Archeus, what do you use to manage your wifi connections
[15:00] <jkasdjf> any ubuntu experts that know what I can do to free up some space?
[15:01] <realies> jkasdjf, you've installed your OS in the EFI partition?
[15:01] <Archeus> let me first begin by telling that some time ago it used to work perfectly
[15:01] <jkasdjf> no, I was using unetbootin to create a usb, and it started filling the files to my hard disk instead of the usb as I forgot to switch it before I started
[15:01] <jkasdjf> so now when I load up gparted it says /boot/efi has 0 mb free
[15:01] <jkasdjf> and when I start my system up it gives me the warning as well
[15:01] <Archeus> nd for managing wifi
[15:02] <jkasdjf> any ideas?
[15:02] <Archeus> this laptop
[15:02] <Archeus> or any other device ?
[15:02] <realies> your problematic device, I've never heard of nd though
[15:02] <laudace> ,jkasdjf, use find filter, by age, and pipe to rm
[15:03] <unotir> Now apple is mad at trump. Because trump wants to force apple to employee American manufactures. Instead of slave Chinese labor.  True to be competive in the world you have to hire slave labor and buy thing made by slave labor. But liberals think illegals working for pennies is okay or products made by slave labor. Trump will change that and bring work back to America
[15:03] <jkasdjf> ok so how/
[15:03] <jkasdjf> lol
[15:04] <jkasdjf> find > /dev/(mydisk)/efi/boot ?
[15:04] <ducasse> Archeus: 'lspci' will most likely list your chipset
[15:04] <jkasdjf> how would I sort by age though?
[15:05] <Archeus> should i give u the link of the output ?
[15:05] <newuser324> anyone help
[15:05]  * realies gives newuser324 help
[15:05] <Archeus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051916/
[15:06] <jkasdjf> laudace?
[15:06] <OerHeks> newuser324, i am looking with dconf in org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings but find no printscreen entries, though there is a 'reset to default'  button ..
[15:06] <newuser324> prtsc button not working - ubuntu 16.04.1
[15:06] <realies> Archeus, 09:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[15:06] <realies> can you guess what is your chipset?
[15:06] <laudace> jkasdjf, test with `find /boot ! -newermt "Jul 01"` where Jul 01 is when you messed up
[15:06] <Archeus> oh
[15:06] <Archeus> hmm
[15:06] <jkasdjf> yes I get a bunch of files!
[15:06] <newuser324> prtsc button not working - ubuntu 16.04.1 realies
[15:06] <jkasdjf> what do I do with them?
[15:07] <Archeus> hmmm
[15:07] <ducasse> Archeus: those chips are _crap_. the linux drivers are far from good.
[15:07] <Archeus> w8
[15:07] <OerHeks> newuser324, else this post gives the manual entries to add them again http://askubuntu.com/q/468674
[15:07] <Archeus> let me remove something then do it agian
[15:07] <realies> yup, I remember RTL drivers being awful
[15:07] <Archeus> again*
[15:07] <laudace> jkasdjf make sure none of them look like kernel files
[15:08] <laudace> jkasdjf cause deleting those would lead to bad things
[15:08] <realies> newuser324, no idea, I'm running win10 on a macbook pro and don't even have a prtscr button
[15:08] <Archeus> ok here is the new link
[15:08] <jkasdjf> I don't know what kernel files look like :(
[15:08] <Archeus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051921/
[15:08] <jkasdjf> is there any command to delete all files within say 1 hour?
[15:08] <jkasdjf> that were created within 1 hour *
[15:08] <Fleuv> Hello if you delete a directory all files in it will be lost for ever? I just tried to restore all files in the directory with testdisk, inside testdisk the directory is there but there is nothing inside. The mod date is todays date cant I go back a day or hour?
[15:08] <realies> Archeus, not sure what you've changed but it seems your wireless chipset is still RTL8723BE
[15:09] <newuser324> realies: what ? no prtsc button ? its a standard on almost keyboards - is it not so on mac's ?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> jkasdjf  yes, you can use the 'find' command
[15:09] <newuser324> realies: all*
[15:09] <OerHeks> newuser324, how did you delete those keys?
[15:09] <jkasdjf> oh I got it!
[15:09] <realies> newuser324, nope, osx uses cmd+shift+3 for screenshots
[15:09] <jkasdjf> find /boot -cmin -60 # creation time
[15:09] <jkasdjf> that's the command1
[15:09] <Archeus> so wht should i do now ?
[15:09] <ducasse> Archeus: they really are terrible, do yourself a favor and get a new adapter that is well supported by linux.
[15:09] <newuser324> OerHeks: as suggested by you I went to system settings > Shortcuts > Screenshots and for experiments sake reassigned all the keys and now none are working including the previous working combination of alt+prtsc
[15:10] <unotir> Now apple is mad at trump. Because trump wants to force apple to employee American manufactures. Instead of slave Chinese labor.  True to be competive in the world you have to hire slave labor and buy thing made by slave labor. But liberals think illegals working for pennies is okay or products made by slave labor. Trump will change that and bring work back to America
[15:10] <jkasdjf> thanks guys, now i tlists all the files created in the last hour. Now how do I batch delete all of them?
[15:10] <ducasse> unotir: drop it
[15:10] <Archeus> can we kick unotir ?
[15:10] <realies> Archeus, anything that you've changed since it was working fine?
[15:10] <Archeus> hmm
[15:10] <Archeus> yes
[15:10] <Archeus> while installing a game
[15:10] <Archeus> i dmged something
[15:10] <realies> dmged?
[15:10] <Archeus> it was something related to graphics
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> jkasdjf  in the 'find' line, add   -exec rm {} \;
[15:10] <Archeus> so to solve tht i installed a kernel
[15:11] <Archeus> idk which one
[15:11] <Archeus> but it seems to be not working fine since then
[15:11] <jkasdjf> let me try
[15:11] <realies> so maybe your new kernel came with a bad RTL8723BE driver
[15:11] <node9> Hi, i made a dumb mistake. I was using aria2c to download a lot of files. Instead of pointing to my ZFS pool which is /Pearl/ I pointed it to Pearl/. Long story short, woke up and saw that my --vg--root is 100% full. However I can't seem to find where the files got downloaded. Where would they be?
[15:11] <Archeus> how do i remove it ?
[15:11] <realies> Archeus, remove what?
[15:11] <Archeus> the new kernel
[15:11] <Archeus> which i installed ?
[15:11] <OerHeks> newuser324, i gave 2 more answers, dconf and a askubuntu post
[15:11] <laudace> jkasdjf, so test it and make sure you're happy with the files that would be deleted
[15:12] <realies> Archeus, by installing the old one, but I'd rather try and replace the driver to something that I know works
[15:12] <laudace> jkasdjf -delete at the end of the find
[15:12] <Archeus> but i dont know wht works
[15:12] <realies> me neither unfortunately
[15:12] <Archeus> ah
[15:12] <Archeus> such a tragedy
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Archeus, try the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu driver in the repos
[15:12] <Archeus> anyway to know wht works ?
[15:12] <jkasdjf> sudo find /boot -cmin -60 # creation time -exec rm {}\; that command only finds them,, it's not deleting them
[15:13] <Jordan_U> node9: You need to find what directory aria2c considers its working directory, but it's likely your home directory so try ~/Pearl/
[15:13] <Archeus> how should i do it ?
[15:13] <jkasdjf> I'm using this command sudo find /boot -cmin -60 # creation time -exec rm {}\;
[15:13] <jkasdjf> so what should my command be?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> jkasdjf  # comments everything following it
[15:13] <jkasdjf> what do you mean
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> jkasdjf  # makes everyting following it a comment, omit the #
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Archeus, in the terminal, sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[15:14] <jkasdjf> ok
[15:14] <Archeus> oh
[15:14] <Archeus> thx
[15:14] <node9> that worked Jordan_U, thanks
[15:14] <winsen> Hi all
[15:14] <winsen>  I am using WICD, I d' like to switch to NM.  does anyone know how to switch/enable network manager without incident?
[15:15] <jkasdjf> it says "Find missing argumenet exec"
[15:15] <realies> BluesKaj, since when amd drivers are fixing realtek interfaces?
[15:15] <jkasdjf> what's up?
[15:15] <Archeus> ah
[15:15] <Archeus> seems some problems are here
[15:15] <Jordan_U> jkasdjf: First, change the "rm" to "echo" until you are absolutely sure you have the command right. find + rm can easily lead to accidental deletion of a *lot* of files.
[15:15] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, i am not sure, that AMDgpu is suitable for his Radeon R5 M255 .
[15:15] <winsen> any clue guys?
[15:15] <OerHeks> just the radeon, AFAIK
[15:15] <jkasdjf> so Jordan, looking at my command above, what would you change it to ?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> jkasdjf  omit 'creation time" ... i guess it was a comment in the tutorial you were following
[15:15] <newuser324> OerHeks: that dconf "reset to default" is not showing in terminal and there is no shutter reset option as well as described in your recommended post
[15:16] <jkasdjf> to find all files created within an hour and delete them
[15:16] <OerHeks> newuser324, the gui does.
[15:16] <jkasdjf> monkey dust, I did that it stilll said missing arguement on -exec
[15:16] <Archeus> here it i
[15:16] <Archeus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051940/
[15:16] <Archeus> is*
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> jkasdjf  paste the exact line here
[15:16] <Archeus> wht now ?
[15:17] <newuser324> OerHeks: gui is not accepting the single working combination alt+prtsc and for rest are accepted but are not working
[15:17] <jkasdjf> OH shit, I found it!
[15:17] <jkasdjf> sudo find /boot -cmin -60 -delete
[15:17] <jkasdjf> that's the command!
[15:17] <jkasdjf> I just used the -delete instead
[15:17] <jkasdjf> and now I have free space again on /efi/boot!
[15:17] <jkasdjf> thanks so much guys!
[15:18] <OerHeks> http://imgur.com/a/r3Nr0
[15:18] <jkasdjf> thanks again monkey and jordan
[15:18] <jkasdjf> really appreciate it :)
[15:21] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, it might be the specific xenial driver rather than the generic for his machine, some work some don't either way
[15:27] <newuser324> OerHeks: sorry I got disconnected, any messages ? solution ?
[15:28] <OerHeks> newuser324, nope, find out what you did to remove those shortcuts
[15:28] <newuser324> OerHeks: I did nothing. Its a complete new installation of Ubuntu 16.04.1
[15:30] <realies> can I create a partition under another OS and install Ubuntu on it without rebooting?
[15:30] <Hanumaan> getting the following error and upgrade did not complete: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23051961/ (doing upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04)
[15:31] <baizon> realies: no, only in a VM
[15:31] <realies> right
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> !find shim
[15:32] <ubuntu_server_n0> hi
[15:32] <realies> is Ubuntu MacBookPro friendly?
[15:33] <baizon> realies: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[15:33] <realies> baizon,thanks
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> Hanumaan  is shim-signed installed with a ppa?
[15:34] <ducasse> !info shim-signed
[15:34] <Hanumaan> MonkeyDust, I have just upgraded when it offered to for an upgrade .. you mean with some 3rd party PPA? during the upgrade I have not done anything such .. and another information I have Fedora, Windows also and Fedora manages the grub with EFI
[15:36] <chad__> hi, guys. I have a similar question with this post http://serverfault.com/questions/454866/centos-6-ps-aux-hangs-up, but on ubuntu 14.04 and without audit installed. any idea would be  appreciated.
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> Hanumaan  where did shim-signed come from, it's not in the repos
[15:36] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/shim-signed
[15:37] <ubuntu_server_n0> hi guys i have an ubuntu server in my work, and i have only 1 week experience with linux
[15:37] <ubuntu_server_n0> i need to install ampps, but i barely can install gnome desktop
[15:38] <realies> ubuntu_server_n0, should be fairly straightforward
[15:38] <Hanumaan> MonkeyDust, ducasse, so it means shim-signed exists in xenial or?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> Hanumaan  if you don't get an answer here, try and contact this guy ... https://launchpad.net/~vorlon
[15:38] <ubuntu_server_n0> i also need to connect from my laptop to the xserver but it gives me some errors when on WAN
[15:39] <ducasse> Hanumaan: i've got it, and i got it from the repos.
[15:39] <ubuntu_server_n0> hopefully i have installed openssh and i can connect via putty
[15:39] <ubuntu_server_n0> but xserver dont work for me
[15:43] <ducasse> ubuntu_server_n0: what do you mean by 'xserver dont work'? be specific.
[15:45] <furycd001> Guys... I have a portable hard drive which is formatted as Mac os extended journaled. I'm running ubuntu gnome & whenever the hard rive is connect I can view it as read-only as standard. If I connect to files as sudo then I can copy and paste to & from the hd.
[15:45] <furycd001> How can I enable access to the hd without having to use sudo each time ?? Also whenever I copy files from the hd to my laptop they are locked as read-only unless I'm accessing via sudo...
[15:46] <brushdemon> sounds like the permissions aren't right on the hdd
[15:47] <OerHeks> furycd001, wrinting to HFS+ with journaling ??
[15:47] <ubuntu_server_n0> guys can't i open startx with Xming?
[15:47] <furycd001> Yea...
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> furycd001  yes, that's called 'security' ... you need sudo for everything outside /home
[15:47] <ubuntu_server_n0> maybe its a very noob question but this is it^^^
[15:48] <bipul> Is it true that password stored in the form of encrypted hash. which is resides in /etc/shadow file. And when a Ubuntu user log in , it's loggin password get encrypted and matches with the encrypted hash ?
[15:48] <OerHeks> !hfs+
[15:48] <OerHeks> i think you don 't want that > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[15:48] <ubuntu_server_n0> cant I open desktop with xming?
[15:48] <OerHeks> furycd001, did you try to read the ext hdd on your mac again ?
[15:48] <ducasse> ubuntu_server_n0: that sounds like a horrible idea.
[15:49] <ubuntu_server_n0> ducasse u.u
[15:49] <ubuntu_server_n0> and can i use xming from WAN?
[15:49] <furycd001> All the folders that I copy from the hd have locks within the icon. I actually installed ubuntu gnome over osx lol, but I checked with my brothers laptop and everything still works as it should on osx...
[15:50] <ducasse> ubuntu_server_n0: you can run x clients over a wan, but the performance will most likely be bad.
[15:51] <ubuntu_server_n0> should i try vncserver instead?
[15:51] <ducasse> ubuntu_server_n0: if you want a remote desktop, then use vnc and a desktop that works with it.
[15:52] <ubuntu_server_n0> ok thanks
[15:52] <ubuntu_server_n0> now, im having a bunch of errors while opening the Ampps application
[15:53] <ubuntu_server_n0> "QSslSocket: cannot resolve SSLv2_server_method"
[15:54] <ubuntu_server_n0> There are a lot of errors related to QFileSystem[whatever]
[15:54] <ubuntu_server_n0> and my Ampps window is plain white
[15:55] <ubuntu_server_n0> maybe caused by Qt library?
[15:55] <OnceMe> hey I get Press S to skip or M for manual recovery, error mounting /cgroup
[15:55] <OnceMe> every time I start linux ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:55] <OnceMe> I uninstalled lxc but error still occurs
[15:58] <ltandlt> @chad__ hi
[15:58] <OnceMe> can I somehow fix this?
[15:58] <freefall> hello
[15:59] <freefall> can i get someone to help me figure out how to get my linux box to see a win 7 pc for file shareing?
[15:59] <chad__> @ltandlt hi can you help me with this http://serverfault.com/questions/454866/centos-6-ps-aux-hangs-up , i'm using ubuntu and without audit installded
[15:59] <baizon> freefall: over the network or internal?
[16:00] <freefall> network
[16:00] <baizon> freefall: then samba
[16:00] <freefall> all i have found on the net is how to get a windows to send to a linux box..
[16:00] <freefall> i need it the other way around
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> !samba | freefall
[16:00] <freefall> got samba on already..
[16:01] <OnceMe> can someone help me?
[16:01] <Drecondius_M> OnceMe: just ask the question
[16:02] <OnceMe> hey I get Press S to skip or M for manual recovery, error mounting /cgroup every time I start linux ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I uninstalled lxc but error still occurs.
[16:04] <Drecondius_M> !Ubuntu
[16:04] <ubuntu_server_n0> hi
[16:04] <ubuntu_server_n0> can someone help with my Ampps install?
[16:04] <ubuntu_server_n0> i'm getting a blank screen
[16:04] <ubuntu_server_n0> i mean a blank window instead of Ampps window
[16:04] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Have you verified ' cat /etc/fstab ' to 'sudo blkid ' that all drives/partitions are indentified and and the correct UUID is in-place ?
[16:05] <ducasse> ubuntu_server_n0: you'd better ask in an ampps-specific channel
[16:06] <OnceMe> can someone guide me on what to research?
[16:07] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: Ouch // see above that got mis-directed to OneM_Industries .
[16:08] <OnceMe> none        /cgroup        cgroup        defaults    0    0
[16:08] <OnceMe> thats in /etc/fstab
[16:08] <OnceMe> I dont see cgroup in blkid
[16:09] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: is this bad
[16:09] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: Post to a pastebin : ' cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . The result is a URL .. pass that link back here .
[16:10] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/h9l1
[16:11] <OnceMe> bkild http://termbin.com/iqz0
[16:12] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: K; I also do not see " none        /cgroup        cgroup        defaults    0    0 " as a valid format . Next show is in a pastebin ' sudo blkid ' .
[16:12] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: correct, next termbin is for sudo blkid
[16:12] <OnceMe> thats this one http://termbin.com/iqz0
[16:13] <freefall> ok question... in the file explorer if i type in the smb://ip/sharefolder it ask for login info..
[16:13] <freefall> i put in the username the workgroup an password an it rejects it so now what
[16:14] <freefall> networking to xp wasnt so hard win7+ is crazy stupid
[16:14] <winsen> anybody home?
[16:14] <winsen> does anyone know what is the command line to know how many network manager I had and how much are enable such as, NM, wicd.. in order to avoid the conflict between them?
[16:14] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: Gimme a bit to match what is .
[16:14] <OnceMe> sure
[16:14] <jatt> freefall: try with smbclient
[16:14] <freefall> winsen in xterm type ifconfig
[16:15] <freefall> also wificong i think
[16:15] <freefall> jatt ill give it a shot let me install it
[16:16] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: is cgroup required to be mounted? btw I cannot ssh to remote server with my ssh key, is that due to /cgroup?
[16:16] <jatt> smbclient -L <ip-address> -U <user> -W <workgroup>
[16:16] <winsen> freefall: shows the network device but not the tools NM I'm having
[16:16] <_adb> winsen: which version of ubuntu? upstart/systemd should be able to list your network manager(s)
[16:16] <jatt> it should ask you for password
[16:16] <jatt> you can check with it whether access works
[16:16] <winsen> _adb: last version
[16:16] <winsen> _adb: are they any command line to show me that?
[16:17] <winsen> are there....
[16:19] <freefall> it say NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER
[16:19] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: next : what is 'sda6' ? " 8ac20059-206f-4829-b852-c3f510a4f9e9" show in a pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . ( that was at one time the swap partition ) .
[16:20] <ducasse> freefall: which ubuntu version is this?
[16:20] <_adb> winsen: i don't know a complete answer off the top of my head, but latest (16.04) uses systemd, so you can ask that for a list of services and try to narrow the list to the ones you're interested in (something like systemctl list-units | grep -i 'net')
[16:20] <freefall> im on lubuntu 16.04 lts
[16:20] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: Im OnceMe :P here http://termbin.com/isy0
[16:21] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: Sorry .. I keep not paying attention to autocomplete . Will pay greater attention .
[16:22] <jatt> freefall: sure the password is correct?
[16:22] <OnceMe> is there a way to auto generate fstab?
[16:23] <freefall> pretty sure..
[16:23] <jatt> freefall: can you try appending -d9 to the smbclient command
[16:23] <jatt> and pastebin the output
[16:25] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: Gimme a bit .. the designations here are not adding up .. gimmme a bit to cross reference what we have .
[16:25] <OnceMe> ok
[16:26] <freefall> how do i send it to clipboard from terminal
[16:26] <az> hi, any idea why qtodotxt was removed from ubuntu repositories?
[16:26] <az> https://github.com/QTodoTxt/QTodoTxt
[16:28] <_adb> freefall: xsel can do that. "sudo apt-get install xsel" if you do not have
[16:28] <ducasse> az: lack of maintainer, maybe.
[16:28] <Sven_vB> freefall, xsel --clipboard --input <file
[16:29] <OerHeks> az, it never was in our repos, there was a ppa, but the package is "poor quality"
[16:29] <winsen> _adb: I tried it shows my network devices but it doesn't show that I have both NM and wicd installed, running or not.
[16:29] <Sven_vB> OnceMe, yes, my auto-installer does that. you could write a script to generate yours
[16:30] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: OK. if we were to rempve/comment pit the "cgroup" line .. then the system would be happy .. also need to correct the human readable locations for the partitons to correct values . Have you make a backup of the current fstab file ?
[16:30] <az> ducasse, OerHeks thanks for the info.
[16:31] <az> I thought I got it from Ubuntu in 15.10
[16:31] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: no
[16:31] <_adb> winsen: in that case, i don't know. you can check the packages that are installed (by querying dpkg) and see which processes are running (with ps) to get some clues. hopefully someone else has more knowledge
[16:31] <Sven_vB> Who can help me make bind read and serve my new zone file? It's detected by "named-checkconf -z", but when restarting bind, it doesn't show up between the other zones in syslog. Any ideas? Details: https://github.com/mk-pmb/hax-tld/blob/zone-ign/ign.md
[16:32] <_adb> Sven_vB: did you update the serial number at the top of your zone file?
[16:32] <knittl> hi. middle mouse click emulation stopped working some while ago in my ubuntu install. how can i re-enable it?
[16:32] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: Let's do this ' sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-13Aug2016 ' then we edit the original file . What is your prefered text editor ?
[16:32] <Sven_vB> _adb, yes, multiple times. although i think any serial should be fine since the zone is newly added.
[16:33] <winsen> _adb: anyway thank you
[16:33] <winsen> hopefully someone else has more knowledge as you said.
[16:33] <freefall> xsel dont like this
[16:33] <_adb> freefall: could you please be more specific?
[16:34] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: nano
[16:34] <OnceMe> is there going to be a lot of changes, or only for /cgroup?
[16:35] <freefall> xsel --clipboard --input smbclient -L 192.168.1.xxx -U xxx - W WORKGROUP -d9
[16:35] <freefall> it give me the help output
[16:35] <_adb> freefall: smbclient -L ... | xsel --clipbaord --input
[16:35] <freefall> doh
[16:35] <jatt> or, use script
[16:36] <_adb> also, spell clipboard correctly or use the -b flag.
[16:36] <jatt> script smb.log
[16:36] <jatt> smbclient -L <ip-address> -U <user> -W <workgroup>
[16:36] <jatt> exit
[16:36] <jatt> and then post the smb.log contents
[16:36] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: cgroup of the only edit that is "needed' others are cosmetic so we know what is . the system works from the UUIDs that are correct for all others  .
[16:39] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: well do I really need /cgroup ?
[16:39] <OnceMe> I can just remove it and restart the system
[16:39] <OnceMe> I think it was there only because I installed lxc
[16:40] <freefall> it only show in the clipboard paste what i said before about the nt fail
[16:40] <Bashing-om> OnceMe: That is affirmed .. IF you remove that cgroup lime, the system will be happy ,only you can say what cgrpup is and if you need it .. depends on your end goal .
[16:41] <freefall> it dont dump all that before it out
[16:41] <Bashing-om> lime/line*
[16:41] <OnceMe> I dont use cgroup for anything tbh
[16:41] <OnceMe> I dont even know how it ended up there
[16:41] <OnceMe> ok removing it
[16:42] <OnceMe> ok added # in front of that cgroup crappy line
[16:42] <OnceMe> retrying now brb
[16:42] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: K .
[16:42] <_adb> freefall: do you need to redirect the stderr to the clipboard? your_command 2>&1 | xsel -bi
[16:47] <freefall> ggrr.. not happening.. smbclinet -l..... > output.txt | xsel -bi
[16:47] <freefall> i try it without the output.txt an just the |
[16:50] <denali> Is there something that prevents using sudo over SSH in Ubuntu?
[16:50] <lohfu> how do i get into a terminal from a ubuntu 15.10 server live cd?
[16:51] <Bashing-om> lohfu: At the deaktop .. key combo ctl+alt+t .
[16:52] <Bashing-om> lohfu: Ouch server . There is no GUI !
[16:52] <lohfu> i want to call `ubiquity --no-bootloader`.
[16:53] <denali> or, in the alternative if sudo is supposed to work via SSH, what would prevent it from doing so?
[16:55] <jatt> why would you need to run ssh with sudo?
[16:55] <laserbeak4445> usr: herejohn@fastmail.com
[16:55] <laserbeak4445> Authentication
[16:56] <denali> other way around.  I'm trying to use sudo over SSH to do things such as run apt-get.  When I try to do it via SSH, it doesn't work.  If I go to the console, ti does work.
[16:56] <tgm4883> denali: it should work OOTB
[16:57] <lohfu> sooo... how do i install ubuntu 15.10 server without grub? can't figure out how to get into the terminal to call `ubiquity --no-bootloasder`
[16:57] <laserbeak4445> usr: herejohn@fastmail.com
[16:57] <laserbeak4445> Authentication
[16:58] <freakyy> how can I select what apt-server is used and what packages to install (also add proposed updates etc.)?
[16:58] <freakyy> in ubuntu-gnome?
[16:58] <denali> tgn4883: Granting that should be true, then what would prevent it from working?
[16:58] <OerHeks> lohfu, oh 15.10 ??? not supported anymore .. you didn't mention 15.10
[16:58] <Sven_vB> freakyy, apt has a list of repos where it shall get packages from
[16:58] <OerHeks> lohfu, try 14.04 lts or 16.04 lts
[16:59] <denali> DerHeks: Scroll back to 12:50:44 EDT.  He mentioned it.
[16:59] <Sven_vB> freakyy, usually it's at /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:59] <freakyy> but i mean the gui
[17:00] <freakyy> the gui for it
[17:00] <Sven_vB> oh ok
[17:00] <freakyy> :)
[17:00] <jatt> denali: is the user in the sudoers file of the remote machine?
[17:00] <freakyy> i know its there i used iton my laptop jsut this morning
[17:00] <freakyy> but i installed ubuntu-gnome on my big pc and now ... i forgot how to do it
[17:00] <lohfu> ok... so downloading that now. how do i install ubuntu 14.04 server without grub?
[17:00] <Sven_vB> freakyy, try software-properties-gtk
[17:00] <denali> jatt: The user?  No, but the user is part of the sudo group.  Is that not sufficient?
[17:00] <freakyy> got it thanks #.d
[17:01] <freefall> Enter name-pc password:
[17:01] <freefall> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER
[17:01] <freefall> i get this error with smbclient
[17:01] <freefall> i cant get it to capture what all said before it
[17:01] <tgm4883> !tab | denali
[17:02] <tgm4883> denali: Any error messages when you try to use it? Anything in the logs? Is this a standard Ubuntu Server install or a VPS?
[17:03] <denali> tgm4883, No, it hangs until I ctrl-c. No. Ubuntu MATE.
[17:03] <lohfu> i have a fully functional bootloader from another distro... how do i easily install ubuntu 14 server without wiping the /boot partition or installing grub?
[17:03] <tgm4883> denali: raspberry pi?
[17:03] <denali> tgm4883, Yes.
[17:03] <freefall> have you try accessing the drive in a live cd?
[17:04] <jatt> denali: does this help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10310299/proper-way-to-sudo-over-ssh
[17:04] <tgm4883> denali: I would think that should still work. Anything in the logs?
[17:04] <freefall> maybe you can repair grub inside of a live cd boot up?
[17:04] <denali> tgm4883, No.
[17:05] <tgm4883> denali: odd
[17:05] <denali> jatt, Not exactly, I'm not trying to run a script.  I'm simply trying to issue commands that require elevation.
[17:06] <ruijanpallas> Good evening
[17:06] <genesis> hi , i missed my upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16, can i upgrade from the iso ?
[17:06] <denali> jatt, Also, I don't care if I have to type a password.  Frankly, I'd prefer to type it.
[17:06] <tgm4883> genesis: what do you mean missed?
[17:07] <genesis> PC krashed during upgrade
[17:07] <genesis> due to my fault, i don't remember old PS2 keyboard could not be hotplug
[17:08] <genesis> so now i've the initramfs menu, wonder if i can continue upgrade with a bootdisc.
[17:08] <razor1101> You can't upgrade then, you may install 16.04
[17:08] <ruijanpallas> Does anyone have experience using ps3 controller with xboxdrv. It's working all fine, except one button does not register as analog (when I test it with jtest-gtk). Is it just some mapping issue and I'm one click away of success?
[17:09] <genesis> i spend so much time to install and configure this machine for my mum :/
[17:09] <tgm4883>  genesis do you have a separate partition for your home dir?
[17:09] <denali> jatt, Okay, here's a question... Do commands such as apt-get require screen allocation?
[17:09] <genesis> dont remember, i don't fear to loose home data, i'll save them, it's more about global config.
[17:10] <tgm4883> genesis: Did you really do a bunch of global config for your mum's computer?
[17:11] <jatt> denali: I don't think so apt-get runs fine from cronjobs for exampple
[17:12] <greta_samsa> jatt: It does *claim* to have an incomplete CLI, but that's not the case at all.
[17:12] <OnceMe> Bashing-om: now when I run mount: none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
[17:12] <OnceMe> and all for /sys/fc/cgroup and no more that weird error on stsart
[17:12] <genesis> tgm4883 : perharps not so much, if i can save the list of software installed
[17:12] <OnceMe> but does cgroup has to do something with logging to ssh remote server with private dsa key?
[17:12] <genesis> much config should be in home anyway.
[17:13] <denali> jatt, Then I'm still stumped.  This is the first time I've ever run into this problem with a distribution.  I just assumed it was some sort of security change.
[17:16] <lohfu> will the ubuntu 14 server installation wipe my partition if i mount it at /boot?
[17:17] <tgm4883> denali: one sec, booting my rpi3
[17:18] <denali> tgm4883, Thanks.
[17:19] <tgm4883> denali: 16.04 right?
[17:19] <denali> tgm4883, 16.04.1
[17:20] <tgm4883> denali: I wouldn't think that would matter. I seriously doubt the config for that was updated
[17:20] <lohfu> could someone please help me install ubuntu 14 without the bootloader
[17:20] <tgm4883> denali: mine works semi-fine by the way. Rebooting to check something
[17:20] <lohfu> ubuntu 14 server
[17:21] <tgm4883> denali: yea seems to work fine here, I'm doing an upgrade now
[17:22] <denali> tgm4883, Well damn.  I wonder what the hell could be hosing it on remote...
[17:22] <tgm4883> denali: did you verify the image before writing it?
[17:22] <denali> tgm4883, Yup.
[17:23] <tgm4883> denali: not sure then. You've got nothing in the logs? How long did you leave it "hanging" before doing ctrl+c?
[17:23] <Biohazard_> Hello!
[17:24] <denali> tgm4883, This is the only box in the house that does it.  However, the other boxen run CentOS, so I wasn't sure if the comparison would be valid.
[17:24] <Biohazard_> I have a few questions about media players on Ubuntu, if anyone has the time to answer my questions
[17:24] <tgm4883> !ask | Biohazard_
[17:24] <Biohazard_> Ahhh, thank you
[17:25] <Biohazard_> If I'm looking for a CLI-based media player that can play my music and video files, what's recommended?
[17:25] <Lambrosio> the _ was bothering me, haha. Sorry.
[17:26] <dAnjou> Lambrosio: how do you want to play videos on the command line?
[17:27] <denali> Lambrosio, Mplayer comes to mind.
[17:27] <Titas> Who can help with "bash ./start.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" start.sh --> http://pastebin.com/fJDHnxWj
[17:27] <Lambrosio> I have a laptop with Ubuntu installed on it, and I'm using the terminal on it through my Windows rig with SSH. I intend to use my laptop as a general-purpose media player attached to one of my TVs, and would like to control the music and videos that my laptop plays from my computer rig, if that's possible
[17:28] <Lambrosio> or even from the terminal on my laptop.
[17:28] <Lambrosio> denali: I'll look into that, thank you!
[17:28] <ducasse> Lambrosio: look into mpd
[17:29] <johnc4510> mpd=good
[17:29] <johnc4510> for music
[17:29] <ubuntu__> whatap
[17:30] <Lambrosio> Is there a program that can open and play video files on the host machine through the CLI?
[17:30] <dAnjou> just set DISPLAY correctly
[17:30] <Lambrosio> What is that?
[17:30] <trism> Titas: that ^M means you have windows line endings, you can remove them or example by installing the package tofrodos and using the fromdos command to remove them
[17:31] <dAnjou> Lambrosio: an environment variable controlling which display to use when running a GUI program
[17:32] <dAnjou> Lambrosio: http://askubuntu.com/q/47642
[17:32] <Lambrosio> Does that come built in with the terminal or do I need a different program to make use of DISPLAY
[17:32] <Lambrosio> ?
[17:32] <bvnaik> #join raspberry-pi
[17:32] <Lambrosio> Thank you for that!
[17:32] <dAnjou> Lambrosio: for video i prefer mpv
[17:33] <Titas> trism, Does this work? You can also do it in vi: % vi filename
[17:33] <Titas> Inside vi [in ESC mode] type: :%s/^M//g
[17:33] <Titas> To enter ^M, type CTRL-V, then CTRL-M. That is, hold down the CTRL key then press V and M in succession.
[17:33] <dAnjou> for music i thought cmus was kinda nice (i'm now a spotify user). cmus is way simpler to setup than mpd.
[17:33] <trism> Titas: yes vim does it just fine as well
[17:33] <dAnjou> and use
[17:33] <Titas> Then thank you trism ;)
[17:33] <ducasse> Lambrosio: you can also run something like kodi on the laptop and control that remotely
[17:34] <Lambrosio> What is kodi?
[17:34] <mattdoesmcpe726> cool irc workz
[17:34] <mattdoesmcpe726> works
[17:34] <Lambrosio> dAnjou: I'm reading on mpd and the GUI link you gave me. I've heard about cmus but didn't know what people thought about it. I'll check more into that too.
[17:34] <mattdoesmcpe726> kodi is a media center software
[17:34] <mattdoesmcpe726> i have i5
[17:34] <mattdoesmcpe726> lol
[17:34] <mattdoesmcpe726> it
[17:34] <BluesKaj> !kodi
[17:34] <catopett> Where is the map for WINE?
[17:35] <ducasse> Lambrosio: run 'apt show kodi' for a description
[17:35] <Lambrosio> I didn't know show was a command... I should read the apt manual more closely
[17:35] <BluesKaj> !info kodi
[17:36] <OerHeks> catopett, it is hidden, ~/.wine
[17:36] <Lambrosio> Gracias BluesKaj
[17:36] <catopett> You mean ./wine or?
[17:36] <dAnjou> anyway, here's my question: running Gitg (not git!) throws: gitg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gitg/libgitg-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: ggit_cred_ssh_key_from_agent_new
[17:36] <Lambrosio> I'm going to tinker around with the information you guys gave me, and I'll probably be back to ask some more. Thank you for your assistance!
[17:36] <OerHeks> catopett, what is not clear about ~/.wine ? ctrl +h to show hidden files
[17:36] <dAnjou> can anyone give me the sha512sum of /usr/lib/gitg/libgitg-1.0.so.0.0.0 on ubuntu 16.04 64bit
[17:37] <sweatsuit> does anyone know how to hide the green plus sign(new tab) and tab switcher in gnome terminal?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Lambrosio, de nada
[17:38] <Lambrosio> BluesKaj: the *apt show kodi* command mentions HTPC. What is that?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Home theater pc
[17:39] <Lambrosio> Gotchya.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Lambrosio,  it helps to have a hdmi connection to your tv and audio connection to a stereo or multichannel audio receiver which is either analog or digital
[17:41] <Lambrosio> Aye, I have one, on both my laptop and my TV.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> which is a basic HTPC setup
[17:42] <Lambrosio> Doesn't HDMI transmit audio?
[17:42] <Titas> trism I did "sed -e "s/^M//g start.sh start1.sh" and promt froze..
[17:42] <Lambrosio> When I had Windows on this laptop, all I needed was an HDMI cable to play the audio through my TV
[17:42] <trism> Titas: did you miss the closing " in the prompt too?
[17:42] <tgm4883> Lambrosio: yes it does
[17:42] <trism> Titas: also I don
[17:43] <Titas> trism what closing?
[17:43] <Titas> trism Oh yea
[17:43] <BluesKaj> yes it does , but some tvs don't have audio passthrus to connect an audio amplifier or receiver, Lambrosio
[17:43] <Lambrosio> Ahhh okay.
[17:44] <trism> Titas: don't think ^M is correct in sed, should be \r for carriage return
[17:44] <Titas> trism, Not it says "sed: can't read start1.sh: No such file or directory" Do I need to make that newfile?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> tv speakers aren't regarded as home theater quality
[17:44] <Titas> now*
[17:45] <tgm4883> Lambrosio: although depending on your use case, might be fine
[17:45] <trism> Titas: if you want to make a new file with sed it would be sed 's/\r$//' file1.txt > file2.txt;
[17:46] <trism> Titas: need the redirect >
[17:46] <Titas> What if not?
[17:46] <trism> Titas: in place is -i, sed -i 's/\r$//' file1.txt;
[17:47] <Titas> trism,
[17:48] <Titas> trism, ./start.sh: line 32: cd: ./unturned: No such file or directory
[17:48] <Titas> and
[17:48] <Titas> ./start.sh: line 36: mono: command not found
[17:52] <tgm4883> Titas: out of curiosity, why don't you just start it from steam?
[17:56] <genesis> tgm4883 : the keep data option is fine ?
[17:57] <tgm4883> genesis: which keep data option?
[18:03] <bipul> Hi, I would like to know about the details of root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL  , it's ALL-all console =(ALL:ALL)-all terminal ALL-all command ?
[18:04] <Sven_vB> what's better to mount a windows share as non-root user, fusesmb, smbnetfs other choices?
[18:08] <Sven_vB> oh I see, fusesmb is selevtive and smbnetfs is the entire network neighborhood
[18:14] <hpk_> hi
[18:14] <mathieu> hi, there!
[18:14] <Bashing-om> hpk_: Hello, your ubuntu support request ?
[18:16] <jatt> cifs
[18:17] <Sven_vB> turns out fusesmb seems to mount the entire network neighborhood as well
[18:26] <asad__> Is there any way I can make the light sensor on my laptop work in ubuntu 16.04? Like it works in gnome >3.18 ?
[18:26] <Hydr0p0nX> how does it work ?
[18:26] <asad__> Hydr0p0nX: Are you asking me?
[18:27] <Hydr0p0nX> asad__: yes, and what kind of laptop?
[18:27] <asad__> Hydr0p0nX: It's a dell laptop. Dell 7348.
[18:27] <asad__> Hydr0p0nX: It's a normal light sensor
[18:29] <genesis> hum, stuck on "GRUB" _
[18:29] <asad__> Well I guess ubuntu's unity DE is inferior to Gnome in this regard then?
[18:29] <ubuntu866> hey everyone
[18:30] <Ben64> asad__: you're not really giving any detail on what you're even talking about
[18:30] <ubuntu866> im having some trouble compiling with 'make' command
[18:30] <ubuntu866> im reciving error 'include/linux/compiler-gcc.h:102:30: fatal error: linux/compiler-gcc6.h: No such file or directory'
[18:30] <asad__> Ben64: Well unity does not support automatic brighness support. That's what I'm saying.
[18:30] <Ben64> that isn't what you said
[18:30] <asad__> Ben64: I'm sorry if you're too stupid to understand, Ben.
[18:31] <shawn> ?
[18:31] <Ben64> asad__: not the way to get help here
[18:31] <asad__> Ben64: yeah well I'll get help elsewhere then. you are clearly quite dumb.
[18:31] <Guest13501> i could use some help reformatting one of my laptops
[18:31] <asad__> oh wait
[18:31] <asad__> guess what?
[18:31] <asad__> i cant because the stupid unity DE sucks
[18:32] <Ben64> good riddance
[18:32] <Guest13501> lol
[18:32] <Hydr0p0nX> wow
[18:32] <Hydr0p0nX> dude needs some midol and a nap
[18:32] <tgm4883> geez
[18:32] <roothorick> opinions... my server (Ubuntu Server 16.04.1) is currently running a 3-drive RAID5 for everything, I'm thinking about moving the OS to two SSDs in RAID1 for just general being faster. There's enough custom configs/etc that simply reinstalling would be a massive undertaking. How much of a pain would it be to just move the existing OS? Would it be worth it?
[18:32] <tgm4883> #summerirc
[18:32] <Ben64> "YOU need to figure out what i actually want"
[18:33] <Guest13501> ok so i made a usb bottable drive and i tried to boot my laptop using it
[18:33] <tgm4883> Ben64: I realized what he wanted
[18:33] <Ben64> i had assumptions, but assuming things here isn't the best
[18:33] <Guest13501> it said a file was not a CMZ image files
[18:33] <tgm4883> Ben64: I think it's safe to assume what he wanted there, he was just a bit of a prick about it
[18:33] <SwedeMike> roothorick: depending on your skill level,it's either a massive undertaking or merely a bit tedious
[18:34] <Ben64> i've seen many an assumption be wrong here, specificity is key. if you can't even describe what it is you want, how can anyone begin to help you efficiently?
[18:35] <roothorick> SwedeMike: I've been managing Linux systems at home as a hobby for over a decade now, so probably more the latter. I'm just trying to decide if it's worth the effort
[18:36] <Guest19220> roothorick, do you have some gui on your server?
[18:36] <Hydr0p0nX> ubuntu866: sounds like you may have an incorrect version of gcc
[18:36] <roothorick> Guest19220: not really. I have one or two things I do X11 forwarding with but it's 99% terminal use
[18:37] <szb> Guest13501, what program did you use to create the live-usb? Are you currently on Windows or Linux?
[18:37] <roothorick> it's very much so a backend machine, there to provide resources and services to other devices on the network
[18:37] <SwedeMike> roothorick: well, there are some steps to follow to make sure things boot properly etc. It's not impossible to do.
[18:37] <ubuntu866> Hydr0p0nX: how can i change this
[18:38] <Hydr0p0nX> ubuntu866: see if this helps - http://askubuntu.com/questions/746369/how-can-i-install-and-use-gcc-6-on-xenial
[18:38] <Guest19220> roothorick, because for moving personalized ubuntu i always use systemback, just working perfectly, not know - does it would work with server, but you can try
[18:38] <Ben64> ubuntu866: what are you trying to build? have you checked the software center and PPAs first? compiling is the last way you should be installing things
[18:39] <tgm4883> Ben64: meh, it's easy enough to ask "are you trying to X"
[18:40] <Guest42341> gfds
[18:40] <Ben64> tgm4883: it's easy enough to say "i'm trying to do X" when going into a help channel ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:41] <tgm4883> Ben64: True, but I think we both know that new users aren't the best at articulating what they actually want. They often think they are being clear
[18:41] <ubuntu866> Ben64: im attempting to switch kernels now when i use the make command to compile it gives me this error
[18:42] <ubuntu866> i have make abs gcc installed
[18:42] <Ben64> ubuntu866: ooh why, that could cause issues
[18:43] <Ben64> ubuntu866: you could grab a mainline kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but that can cause problems too
[18:43] <ubuntu866> Ben64: i need to compile thru make
[18:43] <ducasse> ubuntu866: you are building a custom kernel? why?
[18:45] <paranoidabhi> I am trying to install my printer/scanner using this script(https://bpaste.net/show/78c57283ebbf). It shows me $ sudo ./install-driver  Cannot find SANE lib path
[18:45] <Mesaryb> есть тут кто живой
[18:45] <ubuntu866> ducasse: yes custom kernel
[18:45] <paranoidabhi> any ideas I have sane installed
[18:45] <pavlos> !ru | Mesaryb
[18:45] <ducasse> ubuntu866: yes, why?
[18:46] <Guest42341> hello
[18:47] <Guest42341> #j hello
[18:49] <ubuntu866> because i need to downgrade to have the correct kernel to install the correct ethernet driver
[18:50] <ducasse> ubuntu866: ok, then at least use an older mainline kernel.
[18:50] <paranoidabhi> are driver questions relevant here?
[18:51] <YankDownUnder> paranoidabhi: In most instances...yes.
[18:51] <paranoidabhi> I think it is looking at wrong path maybe?(SANE_PATH_SEARCH="/usr/lib/sane")
[18:51] <ubuntu866> ducasse: i would still like my 'make' comand to work
[18:51] <paranoidabhi> any guesses to my issue?
[18:53] <ducasse> ubuntu866: i'm sure make is working fine, my point is you are very likely solving this problem the wrong way.
[18:53] <YankDownUnder> paranoidabhi: Didn't Ubuntu "find" your printer/scanner after you plugged them in? In most instances, it does so automatically...
[18:53] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, did you install sane ?
[18:53] <paranoidabhi> YankDownUnder, no it didn't
[18:53] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, and what panasonic printer/scanner is this?
[18:53] <tables> how do i check if my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[18:54] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, change line 52 to /usr/lib/sane
[18:54] <_adb> tables: uname -a
[18:54] <OerHeks> tables, systemsettings > details
[18:54] <tables> thx u
[18:54] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, panasonic kx-mb1500 http://panasonicdriver.net/panasonic-kx-mb1500-drivers/
[18:55] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, $ ls /usr/bin | grep sane sane-find-scanner
[18:56] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, is there no such path as usr/bin/sane as in the script.
[18:56] <tables> what package is 'deb' a part of?
[18:57] <tables> nevermind found it
[18:57] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, I used locate sane | grep lib, found it /usr/lib/ and also in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane
[18:59] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, I also seem to have /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane/ but not the former one.
[18:59] <paranoidabhi> which one should i put? pavlos
[18:59] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, try /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sane and see if the script runs
[19:00] <ubuntu866> ducasse: i had the same make problem on rapsbery pi i dont remember how i got around it
[19:01] <OerHeks> !mainline
[19:01] <ducasse> ubuntu866: ok, then we start at the beginning :) why exactly do you need a specific version of the ethernet driver, and which driver is this?
[19:03] <paranoidabhi> pavlos, install successfully(atleast that's what the script says). But still doesn't work
[19:03] <paranoidabhi> Do need to restart after install a scanner in linux?
[19:03] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, just logout/login
[19:03] <Fleuv> Hello, is it possible to undelete folders / directories what have been deleted permanently (shift + delete and accept confirmation) via the Files app.
[19:04] <ubuntu866> ducasse: i have r8169 it goes slow and i need r8168 but its only supported on kernel 3.x 2.4 2.6 so im going to 3.x so i can install the driver
[19:05] <winsen>  how to know if wicd or NM is working or not?
[19:05] <mahdi_ja> today i install ubuntu 16.04 lts and wine.
[19:05] <ducasse> ubuntu866: in that case the best thing you can do is most likely to use a mainline kernel with a version that has that driver.
[19:05] <tgm4883> !undelete | Fleuv
[19:05] <mahdi_ja> but i can not run freegate with wine in it
[19:05] <Eightynine> Hi. I removed Linux partitions and reinstalled Windows bootloader but it failed to boot because of Grub. I tried repair it using mbr package and now Windows is trying to boot and then says that it can't load winload.exe I tried to repair bootloader using Boot-Repair under Linux by following your instructions but that problem remained.
[19:06] <tgm4883> Eightynine: that sounds like a question for ##windows
[19:06] <Fleuv> tgm4883, i tried testdisk but all i get is the first layer of files and folders.
[19:07] <tgm4883> Fleuv: did you try any of the other tools, or even bother reading that page?
[19:07] <Eightynine> Thank you. Didn't even know it exists.
[19:08] <A1Recon> Can't connect to PPTP VPN for some reason. Can someone help?
[19:08] <Fleuv> tgm4883, no which one do you recommend? Yes I'm aware of that page.
[19:09] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, you may have to restart, seems it needs to start a background daemon (panasoniclpd)
[19:10] <tgm4883> Fleuv: Me? I wouldn't be able to recommend any of them since I haven't had the need to use them. However, I would suggest using a tool right for the job (which would be for recovering individual files, not a partition)
[19:12] <Bashing-om> Fleuv: Have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery ?
[19:12] <tgm4883> Bashing-om: lol, I just linked that
[19:14] <Bashing-om> tgm4883: Well .. I should read up I quess prior to hitting that enter key :)
[19:22] <Sven_vB> can i detect by PID whether that process is running in a chroot, and if so, which path?
[19:23] <szb> Hello guys & girls! I'm on 16.04 and I have a question that I wasn't able to find an answer for: Is it possible to disable the previewing/thumbnailing for files when they are displayed in the dash? I would rather just see an icon!
[19:23] <szb> I have tried disabling all thumbnailing with dconf-editor, but that doesn't stop the dash from doing it! Plus it completely disables my sound output, for some reason!
[19:24] <Sven_vB> or can i (from the outside) get a list of all chroots currently active?
[19:28] <pavlos> szb, does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/206883/how-to-prevent-files-from-being-shown-in-unity-dash
[19:29] <A1Recon> So I'm trying to access PPTP VPN provided by vpnbook. I enter all the details (gateway, id and password), go to advanced > enable all the auth protocols, Select "Use MPEE Encryption", save. When I try to connect, the VPN fails
[19:30] <milesg> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE, I want to connect to WiFi, but I can seem to only connect to ethernet. I did not have this problem with normal Ubuntu.
[19:30] <szb> pavlos, I think if I did that I wouldn't be able to search for files in the dash at all, would I? I want the files to appear, just without a preview image!
[19:31] <szb> milesg, you should ask over at #ubuntu-mate :)
[19:31] <milesg> oh
[19:32] <pavlos> szb, well, you could remove that package, logout/login, if it does not work re-install it
[19:32] <szb> pavlos, you're right, thx, i will keep that in mind!
[19:33] <pavlos> milesg, do you have any addl drivers in Software & Updates?
[19:38] <vicky> hi
[19:39] <vicky> hello
[19:39] <szb> hello vicky, what's up
[19:40] <vicky> good
[19:40] <szb> milesg, if you haven't already, you might want to consider upgrading to 16.04.1. -- from my experience this solved a lot of the network issues that I had!
[19:41] <idzireit> anyone available to help with problem using eclipse on 14.04
[19:45] <OerHeks> idzireit, ask wait and see ..
[19:50] <idzireit> Hi everyone. New to IRC.  Was hoping to use this to help solve an issues with eclipse on ubuntu 14.04
[19:52] <lordcirth> !ask | idzireit
[19:52] <idzireit> eclipse is installed but compiling simple java hello world comes back with system critical error
[19:53] <idzireit> I figure it is not finding the javac
[19:53] <jatt> idzireit: pastebin the error or screenshot
[19:53] <idzireit> k
[19:54] <stanton> hey ctjctj, i got that ubuntu off spring working on the physical laptop. i'm also in on offtopic chan.
[19:55] <idzireit> as I said I am new.  how to post the screenshot I just took?
[19:55] <logic1> hellop
[19:56] <idzireit> hi logic
[19:56] <OerHeks> idzireit, try imgur.com
[19:56] <logic1> does anyone know any good guides for weechat?
[19:57] <idzireit> DerHeks maybe I should clarify.... I am totally new to IRC
[19:57] <logic1> I am new as well..shocked by lack of google support
[19:57] <johnc4510> logic1: https://weechat.org/doc/
[19:58] <FatalNIX> Why am I still here
[19:58] <ducasse> logic1: the user guide for weechat is excellent
[19:58] <FatalNIX> except that weechat is a pos to muck with
[19:59] <aaaavvv> WeeChat better than HexChat?
[19:59] <FatalNIX> yes
[19:59] <szb> idzireit, a nice registration-free image uploader is https://postimage.org
[19:59] <FatalNIX> irssi > weechat > hexchat :P
[19:59]  * johnc4510 nods to FatalNIX
[19:59] <FatalNIX> weechat is great it's just a bit convoluted and if you like that that's cool too
[19:59] <aaaavvv> thx for the tip
[20:00] <logic1> can i set up a lan chat using weechat?
[20:00] <FatalNIX> Probably, may have to scritp it in, I use znc as a bouncer which has "partyline" mode
[20:00] <FatalNIX> so I don't need any lan chat stuff
[20:00] <CyberDems> what does it take for udev to recognize that it's configured? i'm booting on an arm device from u-boot, and get "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured.". the initrd was generated with update-initramfs while chrooted into ubuntu on the arm kernel
[20:01] <aaaavvv> irssi terminal based or gui?
[20:01] <sam___> Ter
[20:01] <FatalNIX> irssi is terminal based. so isn't wee chat but weechat does have some gui frontends
[20:01] <aaaavvv> Bah...might as well use BitchX
[20:01] <Bashing-om> aaaavvv: irssi is terminal .
[20:01] <FatalNIX> bitchx is .. serioualy outdated.. though I heard somebody picked it back up again
[20:02] <FatalNIX> I find irssi much easier to deal with than BitchX, still
[20:02] <FatalNIX> and irssi's Perl scripting capabilities are really nice
[20:02] <aaaavvv> whats the best gui client?
[20:02] <logic1> gnome-twitch ..how come i never knew about this
[20:03] <k1l_> aaaavvv: well, better test them on your own
[20:03] <OerHeks> aaaavvv, there is no single best, try some and see what you like
[20:03] <FatalNIX> aaaavvv: weechat does have a gui frontend, I've never used it. However, hexchat works quite well and doesn't seem to have a lot of serious security exploits often like xchat did
[20:03] <OerHeks> polling is a waste of time, experience yourself
[20:03] <avioni> i guess i'll stick to hexchat
[20:03] <FatalNIX> Deruyter: I thought you said googling for a minute lololol
[20:04] <FatalNIX> avioni: explore :)
[20:04] <FatalNIX> heck you could use a gui frontend somebody made for ircii
[20:04] <FatalNIX> :D
[20:04] <FatalNIX> ircii was very popular back in the day
[20:05] <avioni> yes i remember so was ircle
[20:05] <FatalNIX> I don't hear anyone using it anymore. I'm sure iot's very dated
[20:05] <FatalNIX> oh yes ircle
[20:05] <FatalNIX> some people still usr mirc
[20:05] <FatalNIX> like wut
[20:05] <FatalNIX> mirc was always a horror show
[20:05] <FatalNIX> MDI interfaces for IRC? wtf
[20:05] <OerHeks> ..
[20:05] <logic1> hmm
[20:05] <idzireit> screenshot image link https://postimg.org/image/c1a64wbdr/
[20:06] <OerHeks> idzireit, do you have java jdk installed, or just the jre?
[20:06] <jatt> it's a syntax error
[20:06] <jatt> must be System not system
[20:06] <OerHeks> oh, good find jatt
[20:06] <idzireit> i have open-jdk7-jdk inistalled
[20:07] <Ice_Strike> !pb
[20:08] <Ice_Strike> See http://paste.ubuntu.com/23052617/ - Server Management website take control of the server. So for example I press save button which will then update the configuration on Linux Server. It logged onto server and then update a config file.How do I find out what it was doing to update a file and what command it was using?
[20:08] <Ice_Strike> It is not available in bash_history and history command
[20:09] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: how did you update that config file?
[20:10] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Via admin panel (website).
[20:10] <k1l_> i guess you need to look if admin panel supports such logs
[20:11] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ There is no such log. My question is is it possible to find out what the command was executed to edit the config file?
[20:11] <Ice_Strike> I can see auth.log it logged into server when I press save on the website.
[20:14] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: i doubt if that admin panel doesnt provide such logs
[20:15] <ELLIOTTCABLE> I'm having the hardest trouble finding the GNU `info` command. What package is supposed to contain that?
[20:15] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Admin Panel is not on the same server
[20:15] <ELLIOTTCABLE> (Precise LTS, 12.04)
[20:15] <Ice_Strike> It is hosted on the cloud which i don't have access.
[20:15] <ELLIOTTCABLE> I've been digging through http://packages.ubuntu.com, but jesus, is it hard to search for the word ‘info’, lol.
[20:16] <idzireit> for screenshot of error compiling java using eclipse on ubuntu 14 http://imgur.com/gallery/Dxz3J
[20:16] <k1l_> ELLIOTTCABLE: that should be in the bash, iirc
[20:16] <OerHeks> idzireit, you have been answered > jatt
[20:16] <idzireit> when and by whom
[20:17] <OerHeks> by jjatt, scroll back please
[20:17] <ELLIOTTCABLE> k1l_: lolwat, the *bash* package installs info? o_O
[20:17] <Ice_Strike> k1l_ Admin Panel is not on the same server. They are seperate which I don't have access.
[20:18] <idzireit> Duh on me.  thx
[20:18] <Ice_Strike> I allow Admin panel to access to my server by giving ssh key.
[20:18] <V7> Trouble: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333838
[20:18] <k1l_> Ice_Strike: i dont know. i guess the admin panel guys should know
[20:18] <CyberDems> how does udev check to see if it's been configured? booting ubuntu on armv7 from u-boot with initramfs made in chroot. it works fine except that I see "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured." before systemd loads the system, or if I try udevadm trigger when logged on.  network interfaces and video accelleration are not working due to this
[20:18] <OerHeks> V7, likely a theme not working well
[20:19] <V7> But ... was great
[20:20] <k1l_> !info info | ELLIOTTCABLE
[20:20] <ca__> hi@all
[20:20] <DoubleAspergers> I don't understand olympic gymnastics....
[20:21] <DoubleAspergers> Since when is spreading your legs considered a respectable way to make a living?
[20:22] <avioni> is smuxi > hexchat?
[20:22] <realies> I dont seem to find enough info for dual booting on macbook pro
[20:22] <momken> hello
[20:22] <Ice_Strike> k1l_  Hmm ok. I can see it logged in to SSH - I am trying to find a way to log what has been executing by user
[20:22] <realies> actually, im after triple booting (got bootcam)
[20:22] <realies> p
[20:23] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | realies
[20:23] <momken> I have recently bought a second hand laptop: HP Elitebook 8470p
[20:23] <Elec_A> I have a ".a" file and when I view inside of this file with "ar" tool, I get several ".o" files. Is it possible to convert these to ".so" ?
[20:23] <momken> I have boot ubuntu 14.04 on it
[20:24] <realies> ubottu, doesn't have any info for MacBookPro11,3
[20:24] <realies> oh :(
[20:24] <momken> everything works fine except: brightness control
[20:24] <momken> what should I do?
[20:24] <momken> please help
[20:24] <reni> hi guys
[20:24] <realies> Bashing-om, that was towards you haha
[20:25] <momken> When ubuntu boots up the brightness goes up to the max level, even if I have lowered it to minimum while in bios
[20:25] <Bashing-om> realies: Sorry .. that is the extent of my Mac expertise .
[20:25] <realies> ok
[20:25] <reni> i have a big problem with the broadcom wifi on my laptop. It has been disabled after the last update under 16.04
[20:26] <danny_> So steam is cluttering up my home folder, is it recommended to make a subfolder in my home that acts as my real home folder?
[20:26] <momken> The brightness buttons are recognized and ubuntu shows a bar indicating the brightness level, but actually the brightness doesn't change at all
[20:26] <momken> I am become blind. It is very bright
[20:26] <tgm4883> danny_: steam shouldn't be cluttering up your home folder
[20:26] <idoko> reni: do you have any 16.04 image around?
[20:26] <Bashing-om> !bcm | reni re-install the driver ? :
[20:26] <bekks> danny_: steam stores data under /home/user/.steam/ - so it isnt cluttering up.
[20:27] <danny_> tgm4883, shouldn't be, is.  Some games are making folder in ~/Documents and it created a ~/Steam folder bekks
[20:27] <reni> ok thx i will try it
[20:28] <momken> This model of HP EliteBook 8470p has only intel graphics and doesn't have AMD gpu, so everything should be fine, but it isn't
[20:28] <tgm4883> danny_: ok but you're asking if it's recommended about something that is basically cosmetic?
[20:28] <danny_> tgm4883, ? so it won't cause problems?
[20:28] <tgm4883> danny_: why would it cause problems?
[20:29] <danny_> tgm4883, I don't know, thats why I'm asking
[20:29] <tgm4883> danny_: but doesn't that seem a bit crazy? Asking if random stuff is going to cause problems?
[20:29] <jatt> can you adjust the brightness with the brightness indicator?
[20:29] <danny_> tgm4883, Its stopped me from breaking things before
[20:30] <tgm4883> danny_: I find that a bit dubious, but OK
[20:30] <ikonia> how is a single directory "cluttering" everything
[20:30] <OerHeks> danny_, steam makes a perfect folder which does not clutter your /home/, and you ask if you need to make one...
[20:30] <V7> Solved
[20:30] <ikonia> creating a sub folder is poitnless as nothing will look there - everything else will look in $home
[20:31] <_adb> momken: your keyboard controls for brightness aren't working? do you have software controls?
[20:31] <danny_> OerHeks, Perfect? what? Steam made a folder for logs in ~/Steam and Various games are cluttering ~/Documents
[20:31] <ikonia> games should not be in documents
[20:32] <ikonia> it's normally all held in in the steam directory
[20:32] <OerHeks> that is new to me..
[20:32] <bekks> danny_: none of my games store stuff outside the steam folders. Especially not in Documents.
[20:32] <danny_> ikonia, Tell that to Shadowrun Dragonfall
[20:32] <OerHeks> downloaded manually?? illegal ?
[20:32] <ikonia> it seems unlikley steam would put just "some" games elsewhere
[20:32] <momken> _adb, the keyboard controls seem to work but as they are detected all. But they can't affect brightness at all
[20:32] <ikonia> it's more likley you/something else have put those games there
[20:32] <ikonia> or you configured steam to do that, then changed the config later
[20:33] <momken> _adb, what do you mean by software controls?
[20:33] <tgm4883> ikonia: steam games can create folders outside of the steam dir
[20:33] <danny_> OerHeks, perfectly legally bought through steam, only nonstandard thing is I made a steam game library in ~/games/SteamLibrary
[20:33] <ikonia> tgm4883: I've seen it for specific configs, eg: key mappings
[20:33] <ikonia> never the actual games
[20:33] <tgm4883> ikonia: correct, it's not actual games. But games can store their configs/saves/etc there
[20:34] <ikonia> thats harly a mess is it
[20:34] <_adb> momken: so you can detect the keypress, but it doesn't change the brightness?
[20:34] <codex__> Who speak spanish?
[20:34] <jatt> !es
[20:34] <danny_> ikonia, Yeah, its not the actual game files, it's actually empty but it seems to be where shadowrun will put downloaded content if I get any
[20:34] <charlie__> yo hablo espanol
[20:34] <codex__> !es
[20:34] <ikonia> danny_: honeslty - I think you're creating a problem out of nothing, and you'll end up making your home direcotry not really usable by you
[20:35] <k1l_> codex__: see the bots message
[20:35] <tgm4883> ikonia: while I agree with you that it's not something to worry about, I could see how it could look a bit cluttered if a bunch of games did it
[20:35] <pavlos> !es | charlie__
[20:35] <tgm4883> fortunately, I've not seen any games create a non-hidden folder outside of the steam dir
[20:35] <ikonia> all tidy directories, doesn't seem a problem, it's going to be more a problem when you have $home/realhome - and every app uses $home still, but you try to force it to $home/realhome
[20:35] <danny_> ikonia, Well, I wanted to get rid of the Documents folder entirely to clean up my home, but that game is preventing it
[20:36] <momken> _adb, yes, detects all hot-keys but no change in brightness
[20:36] <tgm4883> danny_: well that seems like a silly idea
[20:36] <ikonia> danny_: you're creating a problem then - you can't really think a single, well named directory called "Documents" is clutter
[20:36] <danny_> ikonia, I never really use the Documents folder so it is clutter to me
[20:36] <ikonia> lots of things will use it though
[20:37] <momken> I am currently using this laptop with a sunglasses!!!
[20:37] <tgm4883> danny_: honestly that seems like over-micromanaging stuff
[20:38] <ikonia> it will just get re-creatd by things anyway
[20:38] <danny_> ikonia, plus it makes backups more of a pain cause I don't want to back up the game files in Documents
[20:38] <ikonia> how does it make that a pain
[20:38] <ikonia> just exclude what you don't want
[20:38] <danny_> tgm4883, maybe, its pretty low on my priority list but its still annoying
[20:38] <tgm4883> danny_: eh, seems like a non-issue.
[20:38] <tgm4883> danny_: how do you backup?
[20:39] <danny_> ikonia, Cause I have to remember which files I'm not backing up and might forget and put something important in Documents
[20:39] <_adb> momken: how are the hotkeys configured? to run some script? also, you said it was intel, right? you can manually change the brightness by writing integers to /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness (i think that's the correct path... the backlight directory should contain a couple options)
[20:39] <ikonia> danny_: honestly - your user approach is the problem, nothing else
[20:39] <danny_> tgm4883, I'm actually not right now embarrassingly enough, But I'm planning on using rsnapshot to a home server then
[20:39] <ikonia> not being rude but you are more likley to create a problem
[20:40] <ikonia> for the sake of one directory that is well named and clear
[20:40] <_adb> momken: that may be a workaround so you won't need sunglasses to keep working while you resolve the hotkeys
[20:40] <danny_> ikonia, That is why I'm asking, But it doesn't matter how well named it is if I don't want it
[20:41] <charlie__> rvm -v
[20:41] <ikonia> it does matter, and one directory is not clutter, but it's your box, but I suggest you change the way you work to align with how the rest of the world operate, totally your call though
[20:42] <tgm4883> danny_: again, you're micromanaging something that doesn't need micro-managed. Using rsnapshot, just add ~/Documents as an excluded directory
[20:42] <momken> _adb, hmmm. I haven't done anything specific. It is a default ubuntu 14.04 and it automatically detects all hotkeys correctly. Even multitouch functionality of trackpad works by default!!!
[20:42] <tgm4883> momken: out of curiosity, does a 16.04 live session let you change the brightness?
[20:43] <danny_> ikonia, I mean, I created my own home folder in Windows to stop programs from cluttering up my Documents and everything so it doesn't seem like a crazy solution to me.  What makes this solution bad in linux?
[20:43] <momken> _adb, so should I try "cat 5 > /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness"?
[20:43] <momken> tgm4883, I haven't tried 16.04 yet
[20:43] <_adb> 5 will be *very* dim. to get a sense of the scope of numbers, cat /sys/class/backlight/intel/max_brightness
[20:43] <tgm4883> danny_: well for starters, there's nothing preventing that game from creating the same directory structure inside your new home directory
[20:44] <_adb> momken: also, your actual command will be first "sudo chmod 666 /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness" so you can write to it, then "echo 88 > /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness", for example
[20:44] <danny_> tgm4883, ? But it wouldn't know it exists.  I would just make a new directory called ~/a or something in home and put everything relevant to me in it
[20:45] <tgm4883> danny_: but secondly, you're arguing with people that generally think time is better spent doing other more productive things than micromanaging their home directory structure. Further, while your backups can exist either way, if you do have to reinstall that is just one more thing to set up
[20:45] <Ice_Strike> Is there a way to find out to monitor how was the file has been modified from which application?
[20:45] <minimec> momken: First try 'cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness'. You should get a number as output
[20:45] <FatalNIX> ~document folders are dumz
[20:46] <FatalNIX> actually I rephrase this
[20:46] <tgm4883> danny_: Ok, so if you create a new "home" directory, what do you plan on putting in there
[20:46] <FatalNIX> ANY directory in my homedir that has a capital letter is dumb as shit, unless it is a Perl module directory
[20:46] <tgm4883> FatalNIX: commentary not necessary
[20:46] <minimec> momken: Then divide that number by two and try to do 'sudo su -c 'echo <newnumber> > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness'
[20:47] <FatalNIX> tgm4883: no but I was reading up
[20:47] <minimec> momken: Your display should get darker...
[20:47] <_adb> momken: you said that you know the hotkeys are registering.. how do you know this?
[20:47] <FatalNIX> way up
[20:47] <tgm4883> FatalNIX: and providing commentary...
[20:47] <danny_> tgm4883, I'm not really trying to argue, just trying to figure out why it is not a common practice.  As for what I would put in there, everything that I created in my normal home.  So everything except dotfiles and ~Documents
[20:47] <FatalNIX> I dunno why I'm still in here anyways, I swore I /part'd yesterday after I was done trolling. :D
[20:48] <momken> minimec, I have read both max_brightness and brightness. As I guessed the brightness and max_brightness are both 3484
[20:48] <tgm4883> danny_: it's not common practice because most users don't feel the need micromanage stuff
[20:49] <minimec> momken: so try 'sudo su -c 'echo 1742 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness'
[20:49] <momken> minimec, I changed it to 1000. It worked :)
[20:49] <danny_> tgm4883, Seeing how much time people spend on ricing their windows managers I honestly find that surprising
[20:50] <tgm4883> danny_: I think you may be the 2nd person I've ever seen in here complaining about excess folders in their home directory
[20:50] <minimec> momken: OK. So the driver can handle brightness. Now for your keys. There are different ways... Your computer should see the brightness keys as 'XF86MonBrightnessUp' and 'XF86MonBrightnessDown'
[20:51] <danny_> tgm4883, What do you do on windows? use the default home?
[20:51] <k1l_> danny_: tell steam/that game to handle that stuff differently. that is not an ubuntu issue.
[20:51] <tgm4883> danny_: on windows? I only use windows to access some work stuff
[20:51] <minimec> momken: Install 'sudo apt install xdotool' and try to change the brightness with 'xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessUp' or 'xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessDown'
[20:51] <tgm4883> danny_: but in general, yes I use the default directories
[20:52] <Ice_Strike> Is there a way to monitor a file that has been modifyed which application?
[20:53] <danny_> k1l_, I'm not blaming ubuntu, but it does annoy me
[20:53] <Ice_Strike> or how it was executed
[20:54] <tgm4883> danny_: you can do exactly what you were asking about. I just find it pointless to do so
[20:55] <jatt> Ice_Strike: inotify-tools
[20:55] <Ice_Strike> Yea I am using inotify-tools :)
[20:55] <danny_> tgm4883, ok, I find point in it and it takes less than a minute to do so I'm glad
[20:55] <momken> _adb, when I press brightness hot-keys I see brightness bar, but however I change it the brightness still goes to max: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=inbg2s&s=9#.V6-JRO3Sq0s
[20:55] <alejandro_> hi
[20:55] <alejandro_> hi
[20:55] <Ice_Strike> jatt But it didnt tell me how it was modifyed and who did?
[20:55] <alejandro_> hihi
[20:55] <alejandro_> hi
[20:55] <alejandro_> hih
[20:57] <logic1> is it possible to set localhost as the weechat server?
[20:58] <OerHeks> logic1, weechat is a client, not a server, afaik
[21:00] <danny_> ok, next question: Anybody here know about Monogame on linux?
[21:00] <momken> minimec, I used xdotool commands. It does the exact same functionality of pressing brightness hotkeys: always bringing brightness to max!
[21:00] <OerHeks> danny_, is it in our repos?
[21:02] <k1l_> monogame was only on trusty in the repos
[21:02] <_adb> momken: perhaps helpful: this article https://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/ suggests adding a section to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[21:02] <V7> Also
[21:02] <V7> There is a some other question about Unity Launcher :D
[21:02] <danny_> OerHeks, Don't think so, Monogame's site says to use monodevelop to compile but I was wondering if it was possible to just compile it throught the commandline somehow
[21:02] <danny_> Cause I don't really want to use monodevelop
[21:03] <minimec> momken: Ok. So we install the 'xbacklight'. you should then be able to increase brightness woth 'xbacklight -inc 20' and decrease with 'xbacklight -dec 20', while '20' indicates how much you want to in-/decrease.
[21:03] <V7> Why Unity Launcher doesn't show that Nautilus is opened ? http://i.imgur.com/hG0mFr1.png
[21:04] <k1l_> V7: look at the settings in unity-tweak-tool
[21:05] <lohfu> is there a cli to get GPU temperature from AMD cards in ubuntu 16?
[21:05] <bekks> !info sensors | lohfu
[21:05] <bekks> ah.
[21:05] <bekks> !info lmsensors
[21:06] <lohfu> i tried lm-sensors
[21:06] <avioni> !info anysensors
[21:06] <avioni> !info what sensors do exist
[21:06] <_adb> lol
[21:06] <vivid> !info lmsensors
[21:06] <lohfu> !info lm-sensors
[21:07] <lohfu> but it does not find the amd cards
[21:07] <bartozs> hello
[21:07] <avioni> lohfu what driver are u using
[21:07] <avioni> gallium?
[21:07] <bartozs> how can i ask to be invited into a channel without knowing anybody from it ?
[21:08] <k1l_> bartozs: look at the channels guidelines in the topic how to deal with that. but #freenode is a better place for that question
[21:08] <OerHeks> lohfu, after install lm-sensors, and setup, 'sensors' give me my AMD card as 1st item
[21:09] <V7> k1l_: ?
[21:09] <lohfu> i am using these drivers: https://community.amd.com/thread/202821
[21:09] <V7> k1l_: Nothing there
[21:09] <lohfu> but that does not give me amdconfig.
[21:09] <i6zno> not
[21:09] <k1l_> lohfu: you are aware that fglrx doesnt work anymore since 16.04?
[21:09] <OerHeks> lohfu, oh, not supported drivers, ask that site?
[21:10] <tgm4883> Didn't we determine yesterday that FGLRX doesn't even load in 16.04
[21:11] <lohfu> those work just fine
[21:11] <momken> minimec, hehe. The xbacklight doesn't work! It does the same thing the hotkeys do: Always setting brightness to max
[21:11] <lohfu> using them for headless opencl support
[21:11] <k1l_> lohfu: then ask amd to support that.
[21:11] <lohfu> ha, yeah right
[21:11] <lohfu> my loathing for amd grows by the second.
[21:11] <lohfu> fyi mining ether on linux is supremely difficult.
[21:12] <_adb> momken: what is the output of cat /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness
[21:12] <tgm4883> lohfu: so you won't ask AMD for support, but you'll ask us?
[21:13] <lohfu> i have tried registering there but not receiving their emails.
[21:13] <lohfu> and you guys are much more likely to be any help than amd.
[21:14] <minimec> momken: Ok. So indeed we have a nasty little problem...
[21:14] <tgm4883> lohfu: not sure if that is true for 16.04 FGLRX
[21:14] <momken> _adb, when I use xbacklight, then the output of /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness will be 3484 = max
[21:14] <momken> minimec, yeah
[21:15] <_adb> momken: were you able to write different values to that file? does it change the screen brightness?
[21:15] <_adb> momken: since 3484 is your max, try a value of 2000. after changing it, cat the file to make sure that it is, in fact, changed
[21:16] <lohfu> So if i was just using the amdgpu drivers, lm-sensors should pick up my gpu's?
[21:16] <momken> _adb, Yeah. I was able to write different values to /sys/class/backlight/intel/brightness and it worked when edited as su
[21:17] <OerHeks> lohfu, yes.
[21:17] <paranoidabhi> hi guys
[21:17] <momken> _adb, I have done that and fortunately it worked in command line. But hot-keys and xbacklight commands don't work
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> I having a problem with making scanner work on ubuntu 16.04.
[21:18] <_adb> momken: do you have any errors in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> These the two related posts online https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?topic=3127.0 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322749
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> But both didn't work.
[21:18] <momken> _adb, I don't know
[21:18] <paranoidabhi> Please suggest if possible.
[21:19] <minimec> momken: Ok. Looks like a possible solution is to modify the Grub default CMDLINE so it looks like this or similar... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor". See in the comments of the following link. Looks that that worked for your computer model (in 12.04). http://askubuntu.com/a/228835
[21:19] <unotir> Sleep
[21:20] <_adb> ls
[21:20] <minimec> momken: Basically you add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the existing line, save and do a 'sudo update-grub' afterwades.
[21:23] <paranoidabhi> any idea?
[21:24] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, " Once you got the right firmware file copy it into /usr/share/sane/" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[21:25] <OerHeks> and maybe a permisson/goup issue > Add saned to the group which owns your scanner device: sudo adduser saned scanner
[21:25] <nico995> hi guys, is it possibile to connect a wireless display with ubuntu? I heard of aethercast and miraclecast, but with no success
[21:27] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, how do I get the right firmware file?
[21:28] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, $ l
[21:28] <paranoidabhi> app/  install-driver*  killserver/  lpd/  sane-backend/  server/  uninstall/  Version.html
[21:28] <momken> minimec, Everything seems fine for updating grub, but my grub is installed on /dev/sdb. Should I change 'sudo update-grub'?
[21:29] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, ^what I have from driver available online.
[21:29] <paranoidabhi> Tried the permission thing, was already there.
[21:30] <momken> minimec, _adb, It seems there was no problem. I just did 'sudo update-grub'. I am going to restart
[21:30] <momken> bye now
[21:30] <_adb> momken: good luck
[21:31] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, this wiki is all i got, firmware can be a file .fw
[21:33] <momken> minimec, It worked. Everything is fine now. The brightness hotkeys works completely right now
[21:33] <momken> minimec, Thank you very very very very very very much
[21:33] <minimec> momken: Good news! ;)
[21:33] <momken> _adb, And thank you too for helping me in this journey
[21:34] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, sry I can't find it in the driver installation folder
[21:34] <_adb> momken: whoo! minimec: great find
[21:35] <momken> minimec, The interesting thing is that I have my xubuntu install on a usb3 external ssd and I sometimes connect it to my pc. So basically my OS is portable :)
[21:35] <momken> minimec, And your solution works even on an ubuntu installed on an external hard-drive
[21:35] <minimec> _adb: Well... Some Google-Fu and longtime linux experience... ;)
[21:36] <minimec> momken: How much RAM do you have on that machine. Maybe you want to mount the /tmp directory to RAM during boot, to speed up the system and avoid write cycles on that external SSD.
[21:37] <minimec> momken: I do that with a USB3 64GB Sandisk stick.
[21:38] <momken> minimec, Currently I have 4GB ram, But I plan to increase it to its max = 16GB
[21:39] <momken> minimec, I have thought /tmp mount on ram by default, because tmpfs is usually used for being created on ram
[21:40] <minimec> momken: You can try to add 'tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777,nosuid 0 0' to your /etc/fstab file and reboot.
[21:41] <momken> minimec, So isn't /tmp mounted on ram by default? weird
[21:41] <momken> I always thought thats the default action
[21:44] <minimec> momken: You can check that. Go to the /tmp folder with your file manager and check with properties for 'free space'. If it is mounted in RAM you should have less than 4GB (in your case) free space available.
[21:46] <devan> got an older Radeon HD 7670 and for some reason lately whenever I play a game like portal2 or something on steam, or any other 3d accelerated app, my system just freezes. Even after a restart, the monitor won't start ether and needs rebooted constantly to get it to work again...
[21:46] <devan> is there something going on with mesa?
[21:47] <devan> btw Im on ubuntu 16.04-1 with mesa drivers
[21:47] <minimec> momken: I even go further and mount .cache/mozilla as /tmpfs too.
[21:48] <devan> is there a log file I can look at to find out why everything freezes after a few minutes of of 3d accelerated play?
[21:49] <momken> This laptop (HP EliteBook 8470) isn't an advanced laptop now. Only core i5-3320m with benchmark ~4000 on cpubenchmark.com
[21:50] <momken> And its display is a shitty 1366*768 matte screen with bad contrast
[21:51] <devan> ive looked around on google, but there's not much talk about older ati cards on 16.04
[21:51] <momken> But I only bought it ~205$
[21:51] <minimec> momken: My lenovo thinkpad has the same CPU I think, and when I show the system to other people, they think that it is a very speedy advanced system... ;)
[21:51] <k1l_> devan: look at the dmesg or xorg.log in /var/log. maybe you need to look into the cycled logs form the last reboot
[21:52] <minimec> momken: it's a lenovo thinkpad x230. A good working horse...
[21:52] <devan> ok i;ll check it out
[21:53] <lordcirth> devan, also, check temperatures, just in case
[21:53] <devan> where in /var/log should I look for?
[21:54] <k1l_> devan: dmesg or xorg.log
[21:56] <devan> dmesg is showing gibberish lol
[21:57] <devan> within dmesg what do I need to look for when i comes to ati card?
[21:57] <devan> i found a Xorg.0.log
[21:57] <devan> is that the one?
[21:58] <k1l_> devan: look out for errors. i dont know what is broken so i cant tell you the exact line to look at
[22:00] <devan> i see a bunch of "modelines" followed by an array of digits
[22:03] <devan> what if I watched dmesg in real time could that work?
[22:03] <momken> minimec, Hmmm. I saw reviews of thinkpad x230. Very interesting and the same power of my 14" laptop, but much lighter and better screen
[22:04] <momken> x230 has IPS panel with 5x more brightness than mine. But I still like EliteBook 8470
[22:06] <momken> I feel that 12.5" is very small. I use glasses and probably can't see small things without them. But x230 is really light with only 1.35kg weight
[22:08] <momken> The laptop I have bought was stock (whole sale imported) and so is very clean and unused. But I have seen 1 x230 too. Maybe I buy it tomorrow and give this to my brother
[22:08] <momken> anyway
[22:08] <minimec> momken: I just love that machine. In the meantime my siter has a x220 running Ubuntu, and her two children have each one a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows machine. You can even add an additional msata SSD to these machines.
[22:08] <_44trent> so i'm trying to go to a folder i added to /var/www/html but it's telling me access is denied...
[22:09] <_44trent> anyone know why this is?
[22:09] <k1l_> _44trent: how did you create it?
[22:09] <k1l_> _44trent: and are you in the www-data group?
[22:09] <_44trent> maybe...
[22:10] <_44trent> well i was having problems starting apache, and i go to 127.0.0.1, and a service is clearly on it, it's just whatever ubuntu came with for httpd
[22:10] <_44trent> it was already started
[22:11] <_44trent> how do i add myself to www-data?
[22:12] <_44trent> i'm still getting a 403 forbidden
[22:13] <_44trent> i did "usermod -a -G www-data trenten"
[22:13] <_44trent> so i don't think it's that
[22:13] <k1l_> you need to relogin to make that change work
[22:14] <_44trent> okay
[22:15] <_44trent_> yeah i'm still getting a 403 when i try to access it
[22:15] <_44trent_> is there anything in apache.conf for permissions? i'm not even online, i'm just trying to test my php file.
[22:16] <_44trent_> it's only on 127.0.0.1, so idc if anyone can access the directory
[22:16] <k1l_> 403 on the server. not on the shell. please show a "ls -al /var/www/...." to that directory
[22:17] <_44trent_> http://termbin.com/45gy
[22:17] <_44trent_> well that's probably the problem only root has access to it
[22:17] <k1l_> yeah, so you messed with sudo there
[22:18] <_44trent_> so uh, basically, don't put it there?
[22:18] <k1l_> _44trent_: no. permissions are very important when it comes to webserver files. you dont want the whole world to get code to your system.
[22:19] <_44trent_> well i don't even have port 80 forwarded, i'm the only one who can access it right now
[22:19] <k1l_> _44trent_: and instead of "it doesnt work so i just use sudo" there is the better way of have a proper handling of the permissions with the www-data group and the www-data user which runs the webserevr
[22:20] <k1l_> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[22:21] <k1l_> sudo chmod -R g+rwX /var/www
[22:21] <bekks> For the latter, I suggest sudo chmod -R ug+rwX /var/www
[22:30] <lunixc128> Hi everyone. Does somebody have experiences with recording/capturing online mms streams?
[22:31] <nano> hello folks, how to join a foreign chat?
[22:31] <nano> anyone?
[22:31] <pavlos> what is a foreign chat
[22:32] <lunixc128> I want to save an mms stream, and basically I know quite a few tools for doing so, but the problem is that the connection to that stream often gets interrupted
[22:32] <nano> pavos, i want to chat with french people
[22:32] <pavlos> !fr| nano
[22:32] <jacob_> quoi?
[22:33] <lunixc128> Actually command line VLC provides a resume/reconnect option, but this didn't work in that case
[22:33] <jacob_> I have ubuntu mate raspberry pi 3. does anyone else?
[22:33] <lunixc128> Is there any resume/reconnect option for mplayer?
[22:33] <nano> je suis bresilien, mais je veux pratiquer un petit peu Ubottu
[22:33] <pavlos> jacob_, try the rpi channels
[22:34] <nano> il y a deja long temps
[22:34] <jacob_> arrete de parler en francais
[22:34] <nano> ok dudes, no problem
[22:34] <jacob_> ;)
[22:34] <pavlos> sorry, my french is not good
[22:34] <nano> just tell me how to join a french channel
[22:34] <jacob_> le mien aussi
[22:35] <k1l_> nano: read the bots message
[22:35] <pavlos> nano, try /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:35] <nano> join #ubuntu-fr
[22:35] <k1l_> nano: in general you use "/join #channel" in irc
[22:35] <nano> ok
[22:35] <nano> thanks people
[22:35] <jacob_> ill try
[22:36] <pavlos> nano, jacob_ pas de quoi
[22:37] <jacob_> QUOI? pourQUOI?
[22:37] <pavlos> seems I meesed up ... sorry
[22:37] <jacob_> pavlos nano n'est pas ici
[22:37] <pavlos> messed
[22:37] <pavlos> got it
[22:40] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <jacobanjo> .
[22:42] <pavlos> keyb stuck at .
[22:43] <jacobanjo> .
[22:43] <jacobanjo> .
[22:44] <jacobanjo> Finally my keyboard is working
[22:44] <Tbone139> I don't believe you
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> prove it
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> The period key isn't right next to ENTER
[22:45] <jacobanjo> MonkeyDust how
[22:45] <\9> your keyboard is still broken, and you are telepathically projecting your messages into irc
[22:45] <\9> you should see a doctor about that
[22:46] <jacobanjo> * ChanServ gives channel operator status to jacobanjo
[22:46] <sockboy> what
[22:52] <mirak> hi
[22:59] <paranoidabhi> hi
[22:59] <paranoidabhi> I trying to install scanner
[22:59] <paranoidabhi> the doc says " Add the following device information at the device information area in the /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules"
[23:00] <paranoidabhi> the file looks like https://bpaste.net/show/1aee9e364b0d and info add-  # Panasonic MFS scanners
[23:00] <paranoidabhi> ATTRS{idVendor}=="04da", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"
[23:00] <paranoidabhi> where should I add it?
[23:06] <energizer> I want to do a command to get the disk usage and line count of each file in a directory.
[23:06] <energizer> filesize in human-readable form, sorted by size
[23:06] <energizer>  find . {du -hs {}\; wc -l {}\;} | sort -h
[23:06] <energizer> that kind of thing
[23:08] <pavlos> paranoidabhi, add it under the Panasonic defs ... the top of the file tells you to add a entry between label-start and label-end
[23:14] <car> quiero conectarme a #ubuntu-uy
[23:21] <paranoidabhi> hi
[23:21] <paranoidabhi> any ideas on https://bpaste.net/show/24ccff3ae576. Same issue with no solutions https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?topic=3127.0
[23:22] <paranoidabhi> stuck at this for long
[23:25] <soLucien> how do i set up proxy access on a ubuntu machine ? I want it to connect to the internet (and make all requests through) a specific host
[23:25] <soLucien> is this possible ?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: 404 error is "file not found". Many times that is a result of outdated PPA on the system .
[23:25] <ice303> greetings. Can someone help me with Ubuntu 16 + Nvidia GF 8600GT? Everytime I reboot, my resolution goes down to 1024x765. I've remover the  nvidia-auto-select +0+0" from the xorg.conf, but no dice.
[23:25] <ice303> every single time I reboot, I have to "xrandr -s 1280x1024
[23:25] <paranoidabhi> Bashing-om, which 404 error are you referring to?
[23:26] <paranoidabhi> Segmentation fault (core dumped)?
[23:26] <shakermaker> hi
[23:26] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: I click your link " https://bpaste.net/show/24ccff3ae576. " and I get  404 .
[23:26] <bekks> Bashing-om: remove the .
[23:27] <Bashing-om> bekks: Yeah .. seen that too ... thanks .
[23:27] <paranoidabhi> Bashing-om, hmmm 404 on your browser?
[23:28] <VitoG> Hello.
[23:29] <paranoidabhi> This is the craziest suggestion I have heard since a long time. Can you kindly go through the logical reasoning behind it Bashing-om ?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: Yeah .. correct .. was the '.' I had copied . as to your problem .. no idea .
[23:30] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: User error on the 404 on my part .. no longer applies .
[23:30] <paranoidabhi> anyways :) Any ideas on my issue?
[23:33] <blackmamba> blackmamba-black
[23:33] <G3ntLm1> hey
[23:33] <G3ntLm1> whats the issue
[23:34] <G3ntLm1> i have no idea msg me
[23:36] <Bashing-om> paranoidabhi: No idea . A new one on me . A quick look on google is non-productive to me .
[23:55] <CyberDems> does udev work on arm for ubuntu ?
[23:55] <CyberDems> i only have basic shell scripts which return "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured." etc