[01:21] <G4b1t> I got
[01:21] <G4b1t> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:21] <G4b1t>   ubuntu-core-launcher
[01:21] <G4b1t> in terminal after
[01:21] <G4b1t> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:21] <G4b1t> should I
[01:21] <G4b1t> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:45] <YankDownUnder> G4b1t: Have you already done that yet?
[02:37] <xubuntu89w> is there anyway to integrate the catfish file search software into thunar?
[02:37] <xubuntu89w> It'd be a lot easier if I could seach directly from my file manager
[02:40] <Guest64063> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing xubuntu 16.04.1, I keep getting this message and then it never progresses
[02:40] <Guest64063> A start job is running for Ubuntu live CD installer (1 min 24s/no limit)
[02:40] <Guest64063> I did have 16.04 on before and it was doing that and for another comp after a few tries the install booted fine
[02:41] <Guest64063> with the new comp it hasn't gone to the installation screen successfully yet
[02:41] <YankDownUnder> Guest64063: Have you considered re-partitioning the USB and reformatting it before creating a new liveUSB?
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> Guest64063: Oh wait, sorry - you said you've got the CD/DVD, right?
[02:42] <TheReaperKing> I don't mind doing that, I have reformatted it twice before
[02:42] <TheReaperKing> no, on a USB, and I'm guest
[02:42] <TheReaperKing> realized it was on freenode so popped over :)
[02:43] <YankDownUnder> TheReaperKing: Right oh - ok, so if it's a USB, then, again, give it a go doing a re-partition and re-format - do it manually - with gparted or similar - before creating the liveUSB...flashdrives don't last forever, and they're actually quite prone to error...
[02:43] <TheReaperKing> I did just have ubuntu on it right before xubuntu and it had no problems
[02:44] <TheReaperKing> but I ended just wanting xubuntu since I like xfce better anyway so no real point for the overhead
[02:44] <TheReaperKing> I can try that for sure though
[02:45] <YankDownUnder> TheReaperKing: Yes - this is most likely quite true, however, that being said, they are "flash" drives...for my biz (throughout the week), every time I get a single error on a liveUSB, I blow it out and start again...just as best practice...
[02:46] <YankDownUnder> I don't like to chuck 'em in the bin - and I use them quite often...but every now and again one chucks a hissy fit - so, that being the case, I prefer to make SURE they're happy chappies before I get into a serious installation...make sense?
[02:48] <TheReaperKing> perfect, thank you for the suggestion!
[02:48] <TheReaperKing> I do use it at work a lot and it seems okay but I will give it another go and scan for bad sectors and all that good stuff
[02:48] <YankDownUnder> You're more than welcome, bro...good karma to give info, and save time, eh...
[02:48] <YankDownUnder> Coolbeans
[02:49] <TheReaperKing> Yeah and I'm loving xubuntu
[02:49] <TheReaperKing> I installed it on my work comp to run the minetest server for my students
[02:49] <TheReaperKing> and it is just absolutely flying
[02:49] <YankDownUnder> TheReaperKing: You oughta see it spanning dual monitors...XFce has always been nice, light and truly functional...
[02:50] <TheReaperKing> yeah back when I was a young lad I put it on my 350mhz compaq and it was flying!
[02:50] <TheReaperKing> Loved having my games in their own X window too
[02:50] <Orioa> i love xubuntu
[02:50] <TheReaperKing> I have been away from nix for a bit because of game dev and I'm SOOOO excited to be back!!
[02:50] <Orioa> but using linux mint atm
[02:51] <TheReaperKing> especially since I learned you can game dev with unreal on linux!!
[02:51] <YankDownUnder> TheReaperKing: Ok...fair enough - gaming - can't say that I'm into gaming, but it does what it's supposed to do...and that's what I care about...function that follows form.
[02:51] <TheReaperKing> For me it is more about creativity
[02:51] <TheReaperKing> I'm a writer as well, and right now my students are using minetest to design their dream homes
[02:52] <TheReaperKing> I added a ton of mods and made a game mode that gives them 25 something pages of items to decorate their houses
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> GIMP for me...and KDEnlive...and OpenShot...and LiVES...plus...
[02:52] <TheReaperKing> including plumping systems and eletrical
[02:52] <TheReaperKing> what is kdenlive, openshot and livesplus for?
[02:52] <TheReaperKing> er, what are
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> Video editing.
[02:52] <TheReaperKing> oh awesome
[02:53] <TheReaperKing> what kind of videos do you edit?
[02:53] <YankDownUnder> I do it on linux and the Mac...nice combo that.
[03:50] <legendre> hi hi
[03:50] <legendre> so I need some kind of benchmark / analysis tool for Xubuntu.
[03:51] <legendre> my machine has been a total POS since I u/g to the latest LTR
[03:51] <legendre> and I just can't deal with it anymore.. I swear, I'm going to try other distros or something as this machine is borderline usable at this point.
[03:52] <legendre> it seems like +any+ "intensive" app just brings the thing to its knees
[03:52] <legendre> this was simply not the case, not at all, with the old ver I had been running. (Previous LTS)
[03:53] <legendre> Really don't want to downgrade, as thats just not an option.. but I may have to swap distros if I can't resolve this.
[04:59] <wasq> Hi. I'm missing the network/wifi connections icon. Is there anyway to install that applet?
[05:23] <pavlushka> wasq: you can do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfce4-indicator-plugin"
[05:26] <pavlushka> wasq: and to check you whether is wifi is working or not, you can run "iwconfig" and "ifconfig" to see if the wifi interface is working.
[05:27] <pavlushka> wasq: or you can paste those results in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link to check.
[05:36] <pavlushka> wasq you should run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager" in place of xfce4-indicator-plugin
[05:42] <wasq> pavlushka, Running in chroot, ignoring request.
[05:43] <pavlushka> wasq: why you are running in chroot?
[05:43] <wasq> i'm on a chromebook. Using crouton to run zubuntu
[05:44] <wasq> pavlushka, i was on 14.04 and i upgraded to 16.04 and wifi disapeared so i wanted to get it back.
[05:46] <pavlushka> wasq: man, you have to bind some system directory with your running system I guess, not much familiar with that.
[05:48] <Unit193> wasq: Are 'nm-applet' and 'NetworkManager' running?
[05:49] <wasq> pavlushka, alright thanks. This is more of a curiosity than anything else. I'm actually connected from the chromebook that is missing the wifi connections manager.. Just cant figure out why i cant get wifi gui to show up
[05:50] <pavlushka> wasq: you might follow http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Chroot-BIND-HOWTO-2.html to make the commands work in your chroot env.
[05:51] <pavlushka> wasq: and also these, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot, http://superuser.com/questions/165116/mount-dev-proc-sys-in-a-chroot-environment
[05:52] <wasq> pavlushka, yes let me read into that. Just the kind of info I was looking for. Thank you.
[09:24] <glitchd> has anyone upgrade to 16
[09:24] <glitchd> 16.04 yet?
[09:24] <glitchd> 16.04.1*
[09:26] <knome> glitchd, why not ask your real question instead?
[09:26] <glitchd> knome, lol because i didnt want to waste anyones time.
[09:27] <knome> but you actually did, as i needed to answer that question first, and then your real question
[09:28] <glitchd> knome, i install ubuntu 16.04.1, then installed xubuntu-desktop. that part is fine. the problem is with the clock in the top panel. when i set the options for it and close the gui for that, the clock disappears. its still there, but its no longer displaying anything. i have to remove it from the panel and re-add it to see it again.
[09:28] <glitchd> knome, but again, if i set the options and close the gui it just disappears.
[09:29] <knome> YDU_away, please don't use awaynicks.
[09:30] <mrkramps> glitchd, you've installed all updates after installation?
[09:31] <glitchd> mrkramps, indeed
[09:31] <mrkramps> glitchd, which options did you change?
[09:31] <glitchd> mrkramps, how the time is displayed
[09:32] <glitchd> mrkramps, i would like it to have the am/pm next to the time
[09:33] <mrkramps> there is an empty entry in the dropdown menu oO
[09:33] <glitchd> huh?
[09:35] <mrkramps> glitchd, currently checking the issue in a VM hang on a second
[09:35] <glitchd> mmk
[09:35] <glitchd> thx
[09:40] <mrkramps> glitchd, after removing and adding it again does the clock applet have your settings applied?
[09:40] <glitchd> no
[09:40] <glitchd> mrkramps, ^^
[09:41] <mrkramps> glitchd, which language do you use?
[09:42] <glitchd> mrkramps, english
[09:43] <glitchd> mrkramps, i already installed any and all missing language packs
[09:43] <glitchd> mrkramps, i just havent logged out/in since then
[09:44] <glitchd> mrkramps, and im not finding one mention of this problem anywhere else
[09:46] <mrkramps> seems like i can reproduce this issue with a non-english language
[09:47] <glitchd> mrkramps, hmm..
[09:50] <mrkramps> glitchd, what's the output of following command:$ locale | grep LC_TIME
[09:51] <glitchd> mrkramps, glitchd@ubuntu16041:~$ locale | grep LC_TIME
[09:51] <glitchd> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
[09:59] <mrkramps> glitchd, other settings do work?
[09:59] <mrkramps> like everything else except AM/PM
[10:00] <glitchd> mrkramps, yes
[10:01] <mrkramps> glitchd, you could try generating you locale once again:$ sudo locale-gen
[10:01] <mrkramps> log out and in and look if it helps
[10:02] <glitchd> ill do that and be back in a minute to give the results
[10:05] <glitchd> mrkramps, nope that didnt help
[10:05] <glitchd> mrkramps, still disappeared when after i set the options
[10:05] <mrkramps> glitchd, have you changes anything in the regional format tab of the language settings?
[10:05] <glitchd> mrkramps, really if i even open the clock options gui and just close it without changing anything the clock still disappears
[10:07] <mrkramps> glitchd, you could check logfiles like ~/.xsession-errors or ~/.xfce4-session.log
[10:09] <glitchd> mrkramps, oddly enough, another clock has appeared on my top panel but i can barely read it because the panel is black /clear and the text is super dark..
[10:09] <mrkramps> oO
[10:10] <glitchd> mrkramps, is it ok if i pm you?
[10:10] <mrkramps> query is not a good idea
[10:10] <glitchd> query?..
[10:10] <mrkramps> would mean i am suddenly the only one responsible for the report
[10:10] <mrkramps> --report ++support
[10:11] <glitchd> mrkramps, well are u here to lurk, or to help?
[10:11] <mrkramps> private messages of IRC are generally know as queries … or did you mean something else?
[10:11] <glitchd> not thats what i meant
[10:11] <glitchd> no* that is what i meant
[10:13] <mrkramps> and i mean i am still hoping somebody else will appear here with a better approach to a solution
[10:14] <glitchd> mrkramps, well nevermind im tired of messing with it anyways.
[10:19] <glitchd> mrkramps, thanks anyways for the intended help, much appreciated. Adios.
[10:43] <drumcode303> what's the equivalent to Synaptic on xubuntu? and is maybe a better tool for handling installations?
[10:44] <drumcode303> is there*
[12:18] <G4b1t> drumcode303: you can install Synaptic on Xubuntu aswell. Xubuntu comes with "Software Center" and the new redesigned "Software" application by default.
[12:19] <drumcode303> thanks :)
[12:31] <drumcode303> how do I proceed in Synaptic after having marked packages for installation? how do I prompt the install?
[12:31] <mrkramps> drumcode303, apply
[12:32] <drumcode303> no such button visible i'm afraid
[12:32] <drumcode303> ah, it's greyed out
[13:01] <Guido1> Hello, I would like to clean up my Linux. I know that linux is storring un-needed files each time it updates. I'm not sure if that is the only wasted space. How can I clean all that?
[13:05] <mrkramps> Guido1, there is a cache for downloaded packages which can be cleaned:$ sudo apt-get clean
[13:05] <Guido1> mrkramps: is that the only thing which needs to be cleaned from time to time?
[13:05] <mrkramps> actually this gets cleaned automatically from time to time
[13:06] <mrkramps> depending on the applications you use or rather not use anymore there are configurations and caches in your home-folder
[13:07] <mrkramps> required manual cleaning, but those are most problably just a few MBs
[13:08] <mrkramps> and then there are old kernel versions which should be removed from time to time
[13:08] <GridCube> sudo apt-get autoremove and sudo apt-get autoclean
[13:08] <mrkramps> nope, autoclean does not remove all packages from the cache
[13:09] <mrkramps> see manpage
[13:09] <GridCube> thats what autoremove is for
[13:09] <flocculant> autoclean removes out of date packages, clean removes the whole shebang
[13:09] <mrkramps> not required packages like old dependencies or kernel versions can be removed with:$ sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[13:10] <flocculant> that ^^
[13:10] <flocculant> personally I prefer autoclean over clean - but I tend to use dev versions so it's handy to be able to revert :)
[13:13] <Guido1> mrkramps, flocculant: okee, now I have 5 comands: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c; sudo apt-get autoremove and sudo apt-get autoclean; sudo apt-get autoremove --purge; sudo apt-get clean
[13:13] <mrkramps> oO
[13:15] <mrkramps> more or less this is all doing the same
[13:15] <Guido1> what is the difference between all of them?
[13:16] <mrkramps> apt-get and aptitude are two different clients for the package manager
[13:16] <mrkramps> you only need to use one and pre-installed is apt-get
[13:17] <mrkramps> 'clean' removes all packages from the download cache
[13:17] <mrkramps> 'autoclean' just outdated packages
[13:17] <pencilandpaper> It appeared that he was talking about installing aptitude with is commands there..before cleaning his cache.
[13:17] <pencilandpaper> Is aptitude preinstalled as well?
[13:18] <mrkramps> 'autoremove' automatically removes all packages which are not required anymore
[13:18] <mrkramps> 'autoremove --purge'' removes all thes packages including the systemwide configuration file
[13:18] <mrkramps> s
[13:19] <Guido1> and what does the parameter "c"
[13:19] <pencilandpaper> No it isn't.
[13:19] <mrkramps> Guido1, parameter ~c is for aptitude which you will not use
[13:20] <Guido1> okee
[13:21] <mrkramps> for more information consult the manpages - http://manpages.ubuntu.com ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/man
[13:22] <Guido1> I will have a look there as well. Thanks. I just discovverd that the partition with the desktop is quite full even so my documents etc. are on a different partition
[13:23] <mrkramps> Guido1, my guess … old kernel versions
[13:23] <Guido1> probaply and instalation left overs and maybe some other waste.
[13:25] <Guido1> I also have a strange "button" in the right top corner. Linux is running on my laptop and there are two symbols with an energy plug. They look the same. One is not functioning so.
[13:26] <mrkramps> xfce4-powermanager systray icon and power-indicator indicator applet icon?
[13:27] <Guido1> Don't know the names, but it appeard after an upgarde and has to do with power. it might very well be what you mention. they are both in the bare with the windows and next to each other.
[13:28] <Guido1> they also controll the light of the screen.
[13:30] <Guido1> and if I'm cleaning already: I have many folders in media/guido which seam to be created every time I inser an SD card.
[13:31] <mrkramps> those folders should be removed when the card is properly unmounted
[13:32] <Guido1> for some reason they are not :( Maybe I also did not removed it properly every time.
[13:34] <mrkramps> if those folder are empty, just remove them manually
[13:34] <mrkramps> and for the future, allways unmount/eject external media
[13:35] <Guido1> what is the command? moste of the time I do that. some times linux seas it as an internal media or i have to use the kill switch.
[16:19] <Zet> why is my lightdm suddenly in US keyboard layout mode, even though when I look at the Xorg.0.log, all the mentions of keyboard layout are "fi" (Finnish)?
[16:22] <Zet> ah, apparently not just lightdm, all of my X
[16:26] <Zet> even when I go into the XFCE keyboard settings, uncheck "use system defaults", and select "Finnish", it still won't switch to the Finnish layout
[16:26] <Zet> the only change I've made is I bought a new keyboard (wireless, with its own dongle)
[16:26] <Zet> I've rebooted a few times since changing keyboard, too
[16:27] <GridCube> Zet: http://www.shellhacks.com/en/HowTo-Change-Locale-Language-and-Character-Set-in-Linux
[16:27] <Zet> GridCube: no. not locale. keyboard layout.
[16:27] <Zet> it's very different
[16:27] <GridCube> yes
[16:27] <GridCube> no
[16:27] <GridCube> in fact is not
[16:28] <Zet> I've used Linux with a US English locale and Finnish keyboard layout for over 15 years, how are they suddenly the same now?
[16:29] <GridCube> i don't mean they are the same
[16:29] <GridCube> i mean they are related
[16:30] <GridCube> but you might want to check xkblayout then
[16:32] <Zet> it says (**) Option "xkb_layout" "fi" numerous times in my Xorg.0.log
[16:33] <GridCube> Zet: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49452/where-is-config-file-of-ibus-stored/236817#236817
[16:34] <Zet> oh ffs
[16:36] <Zet> hmm it also says XKBLAYOUT="fi" in my /etc/default/keyboard
[16:37] <Zet> "dconf dump /desktop/ibus/" prints nothing
[16:39] <Zet> the layout is correct in the console though, it's only X that fucks it up
[16:48] <zincing> Hi everyone! To get the VPN service I have to work I have to comment out the line "dns=dnsmasq" by adding a # in the file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf. Are there any disadvantages doing this?
[16:49] <Zet> GridCube: I managed to sort of fix it by adding another layout to the XFCE switcher app and then making sure Finnish was selected. weird.
[16:49] <Zet> probably still won't fix it in lightdm
[16:50] <Zet> but good enough for right this second
[20:19] <SirSlippers> HoWdY!!  Anybody home?
[20:20] <choki> yes
[20:20] <choki> me is on /home
[20:21] <choki> cushy here :D
[20:23] <SirSlippers> HeYa Choki!
[20:25] <SirSlippers> just a stupid newb question ... I downkloaded some files that are */tar.gz and .deb and etc ...
[20:25] <SirSlippers> I can unpack them and I see all the files that are in the zip ... but how do I install them into my software list?
[20:25] <SirSlippers> how do I know if they have installed?
[20:29] <SirSlippers> I can use Archive Manager and it shows me the files but nothing else I can do ?
[20:31] <mrkramps> SirSlippers, source code required manual building and deb packages can be installed wheter on the command line or with gdebi
[20:31] <mrkramps> --required ++requires
[20:32] <SirSlippers> ok .. how do I do those things?
[20:32] <mrkramps> i am not sure it is a good ideal telling you -.-
[20:32] <SirSlippers> sudo apt-get install fluid-soundfont-gm   This worked to install the soundfont package .,..
[20:33] <mrkramps> apt-get ist a frontend for your package manager installing packages from the official repositories
[20:33] <SirSlippers>   What do I do with this ??     bashkaraoke-10.0.4.tar.gz
[20:33] <SirSlippers> right .. I;ve used apt-get ... kinda got it figured ...
[20:33] <SirSlippers> isnt GZ like PKZIP file?
[20:34] <SirSlippers> so how does it go from being unpacked to being installed?
[20:34] <mrkramps> nope
[20:34] <mrkramps> https://github.com/vaisarger/bashkaraoke
[20:35] <mrkramps> just scroll down
[20:35] <mrkramps> install dependencies and run installer script in this case
[20:36] <mrkramps> looks like mostly bash scrips and some python
[20:36] <SirSlippers> ok ... forget linux for anything but email and web browser ... how do I re-install my XP PRo back in another pratition ...
[20:38] <SirSlippers> my sound isn't working consistantly ... my mic isnt working at all ... and the rigamaroll to get things workign is ENORMOUS!
[20:38] <knome> and complaining helps in fixing the issues? (:
[20:38] <mrkramps> always!
[20:39] <mrkramps> at least if you complaining in bug reports
[20:39] <flocculant> SirSlippers: simple - get an up to date XP iso, then use that to partition and install it - worked 6 or 7 years ago, I'm sure it's still up to to date now
[20:39] <mrkramps> there's no uptodate XP
[20:39] <SirSlippers> OK .. so I have to delete my Linux install ?
[20:40] <mrkramps> you could resize the partition
[20:40] <flocculant> mrkramps: really - imagine that, I though microsoft was the panacea to all ills ...
[20:40] <mrkramps> flocculant, allways though it's apple?!
[20:40] <SirSlippers> yes .. then I could dual boot and at least have my Karake Broadcast working!  I've been down for about 10 days trying to figure this stuff out!
[20:41] <flocculant> mrkramps: :P
[20:41] <SirSlippers> I thought it would be a lot easier ...
[20:42] <mrkramps> you have a broadcast running and switched OS without checking for compatibility?
[20:42] <mrkramps> uh ah :S
[20:43] <SirSlippers> My soundfonts aren't wroking wiht Win 7 and XP PRo is being shredded by the new Flash and etc ... thats why I jumped to Linux becuase it said that certain programs handled midi and Karaoke
[20:44] <mrkramps> which is true
[20:44] <mrkramps> but a migration is always about solving tons of unexpected issues
[20:44] <knome> SirSlippers, so when mrkramps told you to check the github page for instructions on getting the stuff working, you said you'd just go back to windows
[20:44] <knome> SirSlippers, how is that "trying to get it working"?
[20:45] <SirSlippers> Why is knome red type?
[20:45] <mrkramps> irc name highlighting
[20:45] <choki> knome :D
[20:45] <SirSlippers> not private message?
[20:45] <choki> GDE!
[20:45] <knome> choki, please.
[20:46] <knome> SirSlippers, private messages always appear in a different window or tab.
[20:47] <SirSlippers> oh ok ... thankx ... well ... I have that page in front of me ...
[20:48] <SirSlippers>  Midi files are played by Timidity, and lyric text to sing is colored following its  text events tracing. However, since timidity is launched as true process ( there is no low-level module ) it is possible
[20:49] <SirSlippers> so ... how does this help me?  What is Timidity?  Where do I find it?  What has it to do with Bash Karaoke?
[20:50] <mrkramps> timidity is the midi player
[20:50] <mrkramps> or rather the midi software synthesizer
[20:51] <SirSlippers> or do you mean sequencer?
[20:51] <mrkramps> nope
[20:51] <knome> !info timidity
[20:51] <knome> 'sudo apt install timidity'
[20:52] <mrkramps> huh, afaik it required an external sequencer like rosegarden … anyways
[20:53] <SirSlippers> ok .. THAT I understand!  Thankx knome!
[20:54] <SirSlippers> I understand what they DO ... for the most part ... its getting them installed that is the biggest problem ...
[20:54] <SirSlippers> how do I install a *.gz file?
[20:54] <knome> check the README
[20:54] <mrkramps> depends on the content of this archive
[20:55] <SirSlippers> how do I install a *.bz2 file?  These things are not well explained
[20:55] <knome> again, check the README
[20:55] <knome> there is so single explanation that gets you anything from an archive installed
[20:57] <SirSlippers> bcast-2000c-src.tar.gz   ok ... please show me the readme inthis file
[20:57] <knome> searching the repositories for "karaoke", there are a few more apps that are related to karaoke mentioned
[20:57] <knome> SirSlippers, i don't have the file, so i'm not able to show you anything in it
[20:57] <SirSlippers> soemone told me Linux would be a lonley frustrating excersize
[20:58] <knome> that's their opinion
[20:59] <bekks> SirSlippers: you dont install .gz/.bz2 files. You unpack them, them you unpack the .tar file and investiagte the README included.
[20:59] <bekks> Or you just install software from the official repositories, using apt
[20:59] <SirSlippers> I know .. I downloaded about 5-6 of them  ... no instructions on what do do with them though
[21:00] <SirSlippers> OK ... bekks ... thank you ..
[21:01] <SirSlippers> So I clicked on the *.gz file and it shows me a list of folders and a few files .. now what?
[21:02] <SirSlippers> there is no EXE file or anything that standas out .. do I have to go throguh EACH of the 15 fo;ders to find the REQADME ?
[21:02] <knome> there are no .exe files for linux.
[21:03] <SirSlippers> thankx ... that I've noticed ... the apt-get or sudo thingies are really helpful ...
[21:04] <SirSlippers> what am I missing here?  does NO ONE KNOW how to install *.gz files?
[21:05] <knome> SirSlippers, please.
[21:05] <knome> we've told you several times that there isn't a single way to explain that
[21:05] <knome> every file can be different
[21:05] <knome> and since we don't have the file you do, we can't know what you need to do in this specific case
[21:06] <SirSlippers> ok .. I have downloaded this  " bcast-2000c-src.tar.gz " file the internet.  It is in my download folder.  I can open it and it shows me a list of 12 file folders and another  7 files .
[21:06] <knome> "the internet" is a huge place
[21:07] <mrkramps> could you provide a link pls
[21:07] <SirSlippers> I can open each of the folders.  I want to incorporate this program into my operating system.  HOW is this accomplised?
[21:07] <knome> SirSlippers, please ask the questions the volunteer supporters are asking or they can't help.
[21:07] <SirSlippers> what?
[21:07] <knome> *answer
[21:08] <knome> where did you download the file from?
[21:08] <knome> which website?
[21:08] <knome> what is the exact url for your download?
[21:09] <SirSlippers> hold a miunute while I try and find it
[21:11] <SirSlippers> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/broadcast_2000?s[]=broadcast
[21:14] <knome> SirSlippers, do you realize that software is 15 years old?
[21:14] <SirSlippers> yes .. so?  I'm 60 years old ...
[21:14] <SirSlippers> the sound card that works with soundfonts is 20 years old .. so?
[21:15] <SirSlippers> newest is not ALWAYS best!
[21:15] <SirSlippers> I've been in computers for about 35 years ...
[21:15] <knome> please.
[21:15] <knome> the reason i'm pointing this out is that the operating system you are running isn't, so it might mean you'll end up with some problems.
[21:15] <choki> please what
[21:15] <mrkramps> SirSlippers, what exactly do you want to broadcast?
[21:16] <mrkramps> i have to admit i do not understand your use case at all
[21:16] <SirSlippers> Audio Video .. like I did with Manycam and WinAMP using karaoke mp3+G files
[21:16] <SirSlippers> in XP Pro Sp3 ...
[21:17] <mrkramps> winamp sounds like shoutcast broadcasting
[21:18] <SirSlippers> I thought that Linux would be the logical thing to do since I wasn;t going to be paying Micro$oft $10 a month for the preivelege of riunniong the Win 10 SErvice
[21:19] <SirSlippers> XP PRo was left unsupported ages ago ... although it still works great!  I want to do a certyain set of tasks and thought that Linux would do it
[21:20] <choki> hello xubuntu did you fix your damn bugs yet? come on, this is considered to be an LTS release :/
[21:20] <mrkramps> i guess, you might want icecast and something like webcamstudio or truckliststudio
[21:21] <knome> choki, patches are welcome, as you seem to think the bugs are that easy to fix.
[21:22] <choki> xD
[21:22] <SirSlippers> I have been reading help files and opinions and meanderings like I have NEVER seen on any Windows help sites in the past ... as a newbie I was left frustrated, confused and outright angered at the waste of time of trying to get this thing working!
[21:22] <knome> SirSlippers, i'm sorry for your bad experience, but again, complaining isn't going to get your stuff working
[21:23] <knome> also please remember everybody here are volunteers, and are giving their time and knowledge for you for free
[21:24] <SirSlippers> OK .. can you answer me this question please
[21:25] <mrkramps> which question?
[21:26] <SirSlippers> What process do I take to extract, unpack and then install  bcast-2000c-src.tar.gz  and then run the program?
[21:26] <mrkramps> sry
[21:30] <mrkramps> ok, this was frustrating
[21:41] <xubuntu90w> Is there a basic operating manual for Xubuntu?
[21:43] <mrkramps> xubuntu30w, http://docs.xubuntu.org/
[21:43] <xubuntu30w> thank you
[21:44] <xubuntu30w> is there a basic commands listing?