| roasted | kyrofa: curious, once you build the nextcloud snap, what's involved in updating it? Is it the same process all over again? | 00:02 |
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| kyrofa | roasted, I guess that depends on what you consider to be the "process" | 00:02 |
| roasted | kyrofa: I guess I'm talking time-wise. If packaging the nextcloud snap takes 1 hour due to the tasks involved, I was wondering if updating it from 9 to 10 (for example) is expected to take just as long. | 00:03 |
| kyrofa | roasted, it depends on what needs to change. For example, if nextcloud just needs to be updated from 9.0.50 to 9.0.53, it takes maybe 5 minutes. Make the change, verify that it works, spin off new builds on launchpad and they're automatically published once done | 00:05 |
| kyrofa | roasted, but if something fundamental needs change (e.g. use nginx instead of apache) that'll obviously take longer | 00:05 |
| roasted | ah yeah that's understandable. | 00:05 |
| roasted | I suppose it could be the same if apache needs (as per nextcloud requiring it for some reason) to be upgraded as well. | 00:06 |
| kyrofa | Indeed. Assuming the next release works fine, that's a pretty small amount of time | 00:08 |
| kyrofa | And if you have people willing to test your edge channel, it could be even less time if you just make the change and spin up edge builds | 00:08 |
| roasted | are you running nextcloud-server? | 00:08 |
| kyrofa | roasted, are you familiar with channels? | 00:08 |
| roasted | I know they exist, and their fundamentals. | 00:08 |
| roasted | I'm not a dev by any stretch to say "yeah I've done that" though | 00:08 |
| kyrofa | Actually no, my personal machine in a plug computer that is an arm architecture that ubuntu doesn't support | 00:09 |
| kyrofa | personal server rather | 00:09 |
| roasted | ah, was just curious. I wasn't sure if you were using owncloud server + owncloud app or nextcloud server + still using the owncloud app | 00:09 |
| kyrofa | roasted, ahh, sorry I was still stuck on the snap | 00:12 |
| kyrofa | roasted, actually no, I'm still on ownCloud 8 :P | 00:12 |
| roasted | sounds like ya got some debian blood in ya | 00:12 |
| roasted | :P | 00:12 |
| kyrofa | Yeah, if I can't have my ubuntu, I gotta have my debian | 00:13 |
| roasted | good stuff. you a big ubuntu user? | 00:13 |
| roasted | probably a dumb question but whatevs... :P | 00:13 |
| kyrofa | roasted, well, I work for canonical, so yeah | 00:19 |
| kyrofa | roasted, but even before that, yeah :) | 00:19 |
| roasted | kyrofa: hahahaha. imagine that. | 00:20 |
| roasted | kyrofa: we have a pretty large scale ubuntu deployment at work. does the job well. | 00:21 |
| kyrofa | roasted, oh yeah? Good to hear! | 00:22 |
| roasted | just bumped everything to 16.04 | 00:22 |
| roasted | though nobody has gotten to use them yet | 00:22 |
| roasted | (summer vacation -- school district) | 00:22 |
| kyrofa | Ah yes | 00:24 |
| kyrofa | Perfect time to upgrade | 00:24 |
| kyrofa | When no one can whine at the downtime | 00:24 |
| roasted | hopefully with something we're toying with now, the future won't have any downtime besides a reboot | 00:26 |
| roasted | (aside from a reboot, of course) we shall see though. | 00:27 |
| frodowiz | trouble building a practice tcl/tk snap. staging seems fine. all the binaries seem to be where they should be. i am getting the error "cant find /usr/bin/tclsh even though i see it in the staging file. same with other binaries. can someone point me to documentation that answers this? ive read snapcraft.io and the whole how to build a snap series. | 03:55 |
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| Guest38753 | hey guys, trick question. Can I install snapcraft on a chromeOS? | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | Guest38753, i guess inside an ubuntu chroot you can | 12:53 |
| Guest38753 | ogra_: humm, yes i guess, but that exacly what I wanted to avoid. | 12:55 |
| ogra_ | why is that ? | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | ypu actually want to mess up your host system with build crap and dependencies ? | 12:57 |
| Guest38753 | well, I don't like the ideia of entering in a chroot env all the time I wanted to run a program. | 13:01 |
| Guest38753 | perhabs I could install snap on a place like /mnt/stateful_partition/snappy | 13:01 |
| Guest38753 | that wont change anything | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | snapcraft installs all build deppendencies on the host ... | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | when you use it to build snaps | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | you really dont want that (i dont even build ubuntu packages on a plain ubuntu host ... be it snaps with snapcraft or debs ....) | 13:02 |
| ogra_ | you are aware that snapcraft is a build tool (has nothing to do with installing or running snaps (well, you can test-run them if your system is capable)) | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | ? | 13:04 |
| Guest38753 | but it's not self conteined? | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | if you actually want snapd (the thing that installs and runs snaps) natively on chromeOS i suggest to talk to zyga during the week | 13:04 |
| ogra_ | he does allteh ports to non ubuntu oses | 13:05 |
| Guest38753 | I am, there is a tool that do a similar job, nix packages manager, but I had some problems using it. | 13:05 |
| Guest38753 | hummmm. I see, Ok. I will look for him this week. | 13:07 |
| ogra_ | he is usually around during european work hours | 13:07 |
| Guest38753 | cool, thanks a lot. | 13:08 |
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| Birchy | is there a CMake script for generating snappy packages? | 23:10 |
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