[03:53] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Any ideas http://pastebin.com/bgBW4K5U . 404s on xenial-update .. ping is good .
[04:51] <Bashing-om> wb pavlushka - belated welcome !
[04:59] <pavlushka> Bashing-om: you are still up!! oh my?
[04:59] <pavlushka> Bashing-om: and thanks!
[05:01] <Bashing-om> pavlushka: Well ,, about to wind it down . Kinda stuck on one .. and want to see how it works out in the channel .
[05:01] <pavlushka> Bashing-om: gotta run, my day just started.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:55] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: my unity greeter issue is solved, i had an .svg logo and it needed to be a full wallpaper
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> hey baizon
[05:57] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Great .. where there are solutions, there are no problems . huh ?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !apt
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !apt-get
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> dax is sleeping :p
[06:18] <Bashing-om> Alrite, getting to slow for me to keep up .. may have to re-tire .
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> laterz Bashing-om
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> habe a good one
[06:20] <Bashing-om> I gonna hang for a smoke or so yet . see what develops .
[06:36] <ducasse> morning!
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:39] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje - everything good?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> yes mate, what about you ducasse ?
[06:41] <ducasse> good, thanks. how's your business getting on?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: still awaiting the website :p
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: but as it is part time business start, its ok for now
[06:42] <ducasse> you're not in a hurry? :)
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: well i only want to make comercial after website is done
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: as its the most important to showoff right
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the website admin has also alot of work so, cant rush it
[06:45] <ducasse> i understand that. is he doing this as a favor or something?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: no its a paying job :p around 1500 $
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: but he's linux minded, thats why i chosen him
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> but bbl guys breakfast :p
[06:47] <ducasse> enjoy :)
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> have a nice sunday guys
[07:33] <Bashing-om> Sunday Morning coming down . The day crew can handle it . G Nite guys .
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:18] <OerHeks> a poor student with an Ultrabook ..
[13:19] <EriC^^> lol
[13:19] <EriC^^> are those expensive?
[13:20] <OerHeks> ultrabook sounds like a recent machine
[13:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:20] <OerHeks> broken ssd, RMA!
[13:22] <OerHeks> Oh wait, we here in NL have a funny law, you may expect to run such computer for 3 years at least, so the vendor guarantee for 1 year is not legal
[13:22] <OerHeks> he has to repair it :-D
[13:22] <ducasse> when people come with unrealistic expectations like "full-blown desktop install in <3gb" i tend to just ignore them.
[13:23] <OerHeks> 3 gb .. that made me wonder too...
[13:24] <ducasse> you can get an install in less, but what are you going to use it for with no local storage? it would basically be a thin client.
[13:25] <OerHeks> oke, it is a weekend-and-i-have-nothing to-do-issue
[13:25] <EriC^^> i was thinking maybe he wanted a sort of plug and play live usb or something
[13:25] <OerHeks> The best problems come up from Mo-Fri ..
[13:25] <EriC^^> or he's very poor, his hdd broke and needs a temp fix
[13:27] <EriC^^> new ssd costs like $80 for 256gb though
[13:34] <Ben64> trying to get a full functioning desktop system from a minimal install isn't easy for a beginner
[13:35] <OerHeks> He's better of with a live + persistance for now
[13:35] <Ben64> indeed
[13:36] <OerHeks> €37 euro .. http://www.computerstunt.nl/onderdeel/6185/tablets/4k-kodi-tvbox-mini-pc-android-5.1-a53-pentacore-gpu-hdmi-demo-ex-html
[13:36] <OerHeks> i was walking through a cheap 2nd hand stuff website ..
[13:36] <Ben64> nice
[13:36] <Ben64> does h265
[13:36] <OerHeks> they used to have 32 gb ssd's for 20 euro or so
[13:37] <Ben64> beware with cheap flash
[13:37] <Ben64> could be fake
[13:37] <OerHeks> i had plans for 6 of them in raid, but then again, i rather would have a HW raid controller with it
[15:37] <JanC> why would you want a HW RAID controller?
[15:41] <OerHeks> just for fun, i have no experience with soft/hw raid
[15:41] <OerHeks> but those 32 gb are sold out :-(
[15:42] <JanC> cheap HW RAID controllers are worse than software RAID
[15:43] <JanC> just use linux MD software RAID or ZFS RAIDZ
[15:44] <OerHeks> ofcourse i want a pretty controller
[15:47] <JanC> be sure to buy two  :)
[15:48] <OerHeks> I'll find them one of these days ..
[15:49] <JanC> because if it breaks, you'll possibly need an identical one to read your data...
[15:49] <OerHeks> top tip, JanC !
[19:26] <daftykins> JanC: that's a really weak argument
[19:27] <JanC> what is?
[19:27] <daftykins> requiring backup hardware controllers in the event of failure being a negative against hardware RAID
[19:28] <JanC> it's a pretty good argument, especially if this is for personal use
[19:28] <daftykins> no it's not - you still need a great number of SATA ports for a software setup :) in which case if your motherboard goes, or a SATA HBA card, you still need replacements
[19:28] <daftykins> they may be more general purpose but you'd still be up a creek without a paddle
[19:29] <JanC> but you can use whatever replacement then
[19:29] <daftykins> totally worthless
[19:30] <daftykins> dead hardware is dead hardware :)
[19:30] <JanC> dead hardware that can't be replaced is worse than dead hardware that can't be replaced
[19:31] <daftykins> i think you meant a 'can' there - but that's total rubbish again because i don't see why you think you can't get hold of a given adapter at all past a certain point :)
[19:31] <JanC> and unless you have pretty expensive hardware RAID, it doesn't really have much or even any advantage anyway
[19:31] <daftykins> yeah you're preaching to the choir there, have you ever even dealt with hardware RAID?
[19:31] <daftykins> i haven't lost a single adapter
[19:33] <daftykins> when there's a failure it's ace having your hand held by a decent hardware controller than sat tearing your hair out crying over Linux logs :D
[19:35] <JanC> I've never had to tear my hair out  :)
[19:36] <OerHeks> :-)
[19:36] <daftykins> can't have many setups under your command then ;)
[19:36] <BluesKaj-pi> my hair just disappears over the yrs :-)
[19:37] <daftykins> hehe