[09:22] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[13:03] <myles> Hi there wondering if anyone can give me a little with a systemd related issue?
[13:03] <penguin42> only if you ask
[13:04] <myles> haha thanks....so avery time i issue the systemd command i get the follow,...Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set.
[13:06] <penguin42> myles: It's rare to actually run the systemd command - if you're trying to modify something you normally run the systemctl command
[13:08] <myles> penguin42: Thanks for that, Ive never actually used systemd so just trying to get to grips with it a bit. the systemctl command seem to execute with no issues so ill work from there :)
[13:08] <penguin42> myles: Yep it's mostly you use that to control it - e.g. systemctl restart foo
[13:09] <myles> penguin42: That makes sense now that you say it. Thanks for putting me on the right track!
[13:10] <penguin42> np
[18:52] <diddledan> watching a new series on amazon - game of silence - pretty intriguing
[19:09] <diddledan> don't you love when you cough so hard that you fart?
[19:09] <diddledan> :-p
[19:10] <diddledan> it's mostly the feeling of relief when you realise you haven't followed-through
[19:25] <daftykins> after further testing today, some ALSA buffering numbers is all it took to calm my Onkyo down, my my
[19:25] <daftykins> now i have £60 of DAC and case and so on ordered that i don't need...
[19:26] <daftykins> diddledan: a mate has had two post-shower sneezes that have resulted in the follow through, followed by rapid second showers and laundry duty ;)
[19:29] <diddledan> buffering: s/f/g/
[19:29] <daftykins> rude
[19:29] <diddledan> ALSA buffering sounds nasty
[19:30] <daftykins> in a way i'm pleased, but having already ordered kit it's kind of a pain it hasn't played up again XD
[19:30] <diddledan> typical
[19:32] <daftykins> yep!
[19:32] <daftykins> i didn't really believe that forum thread i linked you to would be of any use
[20:16] <m6lpi> evening all
[20:16] <daftykins> \o
[20:16] <m6lpi> I have a 16.04 server
[20:17] <m6lpi> there's a service that looks like it's not starting an init script on boot
[20:17] <daftykins> sounds normal, since 16.04 doesn't use init ;D
[20:17] <m6lpi> can I safely symlink the script in to the appropriate /etc/rcX.d dir ?
[20:18] <m6lpi> o..k..
[20:18] <m6lpi> so, how do I make it fire on boot ?
[20:18] <daftykins> first off, what are you talking about? you don't ask for advice without details
[20:19] <m6lpi> zimbra
[20:20] <m6lpi> if, after it boots, I ssh in and manually poke the init script it works just fine
[20:20] <daftykins> i suspect you could have found a better way to install it to begin with if it isn't behaving properly
[20:21] <m6lpi> I used their install system
[20:22] <m6lpi> might just be easier to add it to rc.local
[20:24] <daftykins> strikes me as a mistaken approach
[20:24] <m6lpi> sure, I am open to the idea of doing it right though
[20:34] <Nokaji> prior to upgrade (14.04~16.04) gedit used to have tab buttons for stuff like copy and paste - can I get this back?
[20:36] <daftykins> like a toolbar?
[20:36] <daftykins> ask in #ubuntu
[20:38] <Nokaji> hmh, ... i need to install older version - solved
[20:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:57]  * diddledan twirls the tassles
[22:10] <daftykins> old girl trying to line me up with a smashed iPhone 6 job o0
[22:10] <diddledan> yey?
[22:11] <daftykins> not sure ;) kinda more trouble than they're worth really
[22:11] <daftykins> especially when you consider the typical iPhone owner...
[22:11] <daftykins> average, i should say
[22:13]  * diddledan hides his ipwn
[22:13] <daftykins> D: why would you do that to yourself? :P
[22:13] <diddledan> I believe it's called penance
[22:15] <zmoylan-pi> you have to use some horrible tech just so you can spot great tech when you find it...
[22:15] <diddledan> is that like a diamond in the rough?
[22:19] <zmoylan-pi> i thought the new iphones were a mass of glue that made unauthorised repairs... complicated?
[22:20] <daftykins> nope even easier than older ones
[22:21] <daftykins> well for the display etc
[22:21] <zmoylan-pi> well i kinda guess that's the one bit that's replaced the most...
[22:22] <daftykins> yeah
[22:22] <daftykins> i hear the components on the motherboard are glued a fair chunk
[22:22] <daftykins> in a repair video i saw, the lady had to scrape away at the PCB to get in and under before popping a couple of resistors off
[22:23] <zmoylan-pi> i watch people using devices in public and the amount of broken screens i see still in use amuses me
[22:23] <daftykins> it's amazing the low standards yeah, seems to me they can't get by for 5 minutes without them even if they did know someone that can fix it
[22:24] <daftykins> i've got some spare phones here but they won't have the right SIM size to even offer as a loaner
[22:25] <zmoylan-pi> and i am detecting a small increase of dumb phones in use... it's weird that they are ancient compared to the new dumbphones still been sold...
[22:25] <daftykins> must be things folks still have in a cupboard somewhere
[22:26] <daftykins> if it weren't for the fact the batteries are probably shot, i'd bet many would consider going back
[22:26] <zmoylan-pi> that would be my guess... people with pre smartphone nokias instead of the newer variants... and in some cases i see them using the nokias after putting away smartphone
[22:26] <zmoylan-pi> i suspect some of the nokias are still working on their original charge... :-)
[22:27] <zmoylan-pi> i have used one nokia for 3 days in airplane mode when it had been left switched off and left 18 months after it's last charge...
[22:28] <daftykins> err what use is a nokia in airplane mode XD
[22:29] <zmoylan-pi> i was in hospital and they had me in room with no access to power points for android phone or my iphone.  so i powered them down except for 1 hour a day to deal with sms and used nokia e61 as ereader and mp3 player
[22:29] <zmoylan-pi> and games
[22:30] <daftykins> i'd have preferred a crossword
[22:30] <daftykins> or a printed book :P
[22:30] <zmoylan-pi> well i had sodoku and boggle as games...
[22:31] <daftykins> my hospitals wifi was all super locked down, i couldn't RDP home or even IRC
[22:31] <zmoylan-pi> this was pre hospital having wifi for patients...
[22:32] <daftykins> you've got to wonder now really with what folks use it for, i keep hearing from mates that they use netflix etc. in hotels
[22:32] <zmoylan-pi> now my dumb nokia asha 302 does irc, email, web, rss, ereader, games, twitter.  not prettily but well enough and not have to worry about battery
[22:32] <daftykins> i'd feel that were a bit immoral because you'd probably be screwing everyone else over with the bandwidth if it's a bad setup
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, 1 person viewing netflix is selfish, ditto any form of video or streaming
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> unless the setup is incredible but how often does that happen?
[22:33] <daftykins> indeed
[22:34] <daftykins> not something i would do in a hotel
[22:34] <zmoylan-pi> oh and also the 302 does mp3s and radio...
[22:34]  * zmoylan-pi pats the 302.  thought i had lost it over the weekend when it fell out my pocket and got crunched under a car seat... nary a scratch