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Not_a_Robot | But Vivaldi is not Libre | 03:41 |
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Not_a_Robot | Don't use it! | 03:41 |
Not_a_Robot | Or use it if you want to be violated in terms of your privacy and such. | 03:42 |
ahoneybun | Not_a_Robot: please let people make their own choices | 03:42 |
ahoneybun | that's a freedom as well | 03:42 |
Not_a_Robot | That's what I said! | 03:43 |
Not_a_Robot | Use it if you want | 03:43 |
ahoneybun | But saying it like that | 03:43 |
Not_a_Robot | Ok sorry | 03:43 |
Not_a_Robot | Will not happen again | 03:43 |
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Theory | My Kubuntu system keeps freezing up. I have to do a manual reset. Is there anyway I can figure out why this is happening? | 04:10 |
SporkWitch | Theory: check dmesg and /var/log/syslog | 04:12 |
SporkWitch | Theory: not using ATI drivers, are you? | 04:12 |
Theory | I'm not sure. | 04:13 |
Theory | While using /var/log/syslog it tells me permission denied. | 04:15 |
SporkWitch | Theory: glxinfo | grep OpenGL | 04:15 |
SporkWitch | (capitalization matters) | 04:15 |
Theory | And it tells me no command check found. | 04:16 |
SporkWitch | Theory: you need sudo to get at syslog | 04:16 |
Theory | I am root. | 04:16 |
SporkWitch | check isn't a command | 04:16 |
SporkWitch | dmesg is | 04:16 |
Theory | ok got it. | 04:16 |
SporkWitch | and /var/log/syslog is a file | 04:16 |
SporkWitch | Theory: do glxinfo | grep OpenGL and look for the line that mentions the renderer; that should tell you what driver you're using | 04:17 |
Theory | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Bay Trail | 04:18 |
Theory | Thats what that line says. | 04:19 |
Theory | I"m looking through those other files, | 04:21 |
Theory | I'm not sure exactly when the lockup happened. | 04:21 |
Theory | not sure where you went.. | 04:25 |
SporkWitch | Theory: kk, you're using the right drivers then, so it's probably not any of the GPU-related stuff i had to fight with | 04:26 |
SporkWitch | i'm not a personal support tech, mate, i'm in a dozen different channels lol | 04:26 |
Theory | oh ok ;) | 04:26 |
Theory | these lock ups are pissing me off though | 04:27 |
Theory | Windows 10 never locked up on this. | 04:33 |
Theory | But I hate windows. | 04:34 |
Theory | something must have messed up in the install | 04:34 |
valorie | which version are you using, Theory? | 04:35 |
valorie | I remember random freezes happening in the past, but not in the last year or so | 04:35 |
Theory | The latest. | 04:35 |
Theory | Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64 | 04:37 |
valorie | so 16.04? | 04:37 |
valorie | most strange | 04:38 |
Theory | yes 16.04 | 04:39 |
Theory | Release: 16.04 | 04:39 |
Theory | Codename: xenial | 04:39 |
SporkWitch | Theory: highlighting people is also a good way to get attention back lol *tries to catch up* | 04:40 |
Theory | if i knew something to look for in this dmesg | 04:40 |
Theory | its a cluttered mess | 04:40 |
Theory | SporkWitch: sorry man | 04:41 |
SporkWitch | not that strange; i've been seeing hiccups with sandrybridge on 16.04 as well, though switching to nosplash from nomodeset has helped | 04:41 |
SporkWitch | (workarounds for the splash password entry not accepting input to decrypt the drive) | 04:42 |
Theory | SporkWitch: So what do you suggest I do? | 04:44 |
SporkWitch | Theory: any reproduction steps? anything in particular you can tie it to or is it intermittent? | 04:44 |
Theory | SporkWitch: It seems intermittent. Nothing I can link it too. | 04:45 |
valorie | heisenbugs are the worst | 05:06 |
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user|78835 | hola | 09:41 |
viewer|8684 | The menu freezes and the mouse cursor moves but cannot not select any thing. The keyboard also cannot input | 10:31 |
hateball | viewer|8684: What menu? Can you be a bit more specific? | 10:32 |
hateball | !details | viewer|8684 | 10:32 |
ubottu | viewer|8684: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 10:32 |
viewer|8684 | New install, K button on the bottom left hand corner, afterv few clickc the mouse stops selecting | 10:44 |
hateball | viewer|8684: Well, a common suggestion is to use the Kubuntu PPA as the default release is... pretty unstable | 10:45 |
viewer|8684 | The Lord bottom seems to have a little gear coming off of it and it's function is like that of the start button in Windows | 10:46 |
viewer|8684 | * k button | 10:46 |
hateball | viewer|8684: at your own risk you can run this in a terminal to add the PPA "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" and then upgrade "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y" | 10:46 |
viewer|8684 | How show those command look when entered into the terminal? | 10:49 |
hateball | What? | 10:50 |
viewer|8684 | And what is the risk. | 10:51 |
hateball | !ppa | 10:51 |
ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 10:51 |
hateball | well the risk is that they are not officially supported and could potentially crash or whatever | 10:52 |
hateball | I'm guessing 90%+ in here are using the Kubuntu PPA however | 10:52 |
hateball | the rest probably Neo | 10:52 |
hateball | Neon* | 10:52 |
* Walex uses Kubuntu PPA | 12:01 | |
soee | -.- | 12:03 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:42 |
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moparisthebest | bahahaha I was reporting the reproducible bug I have that plasma segfaults when you click to connect to an openvpn | 15:20 |
moparisthebest | and then drkonqi segfaulted.... | 15:20 |
moparisthebest | and you can't report bugs for it, the bug reporting application? :) | 15:21 |
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user|11216 | Hello. Where i can get list supported video adapters for kubuntu 16.04.1 ? | 16:57 |
SporkWitch | user|11216: if it's not ATI, you're probably fine | 16:57 |
user|11216 | its ATI :( , im trying find info about support MESA drv | 16:58 |
SporkWitch | does it also have intel on-board as an option? if so, switch to that | 16:59 |
SporkWitch | if not, stick to 14.04 | 16:59 |
user|11216 | meh | 17:00 |
user|11216 | fglrx is not actual now ? | 17:01 |
SporkWitch | nope | 17:03 |
SporkWitch | removed in 15.10, i believe | 17:03 |
user|11216 | :((((((((((((( | 17:04 |
dax | yep, use radeon or amdgpu (if your card's new enough) instead | 17:06 |
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skipmo_ | #digikam | 18:15 |
ahoneybun | !info digikam | 18:18 |
ubottu | digikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu7 (xenial), package size 4355 kB, installed size 16662 kB | 18:18 |
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mgolden | moparisthebest: How far in does it segfault? | 18:30 |
moparisthebest | mgolden: I checked options like I can reproduce every time and know what I was doing when it crashed, clicked next, segfault | 18:32 |
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mgolden | moparisthebest: So you got the stacktrace? | 19:57 |
moparisthebest | I *had* it, I can see if that's 100% reproducible like the other bug | 20:03 |
moparisthebest | mgolden: drkonqi crash https://paste.kde.org/py4m4qyc0 | 20:06 |
moparisthebest | mgolden: here is the plasma crash I was trying to report: https://paste.kde.org/p3kqxzx5i | 20:07 |
moparisthebest | is there an alternative way to report those? | 20:07 |
debauchery1st | Just installed the new Kubuntu. It looks awesome. driver manager seems stuck at "collecting information about your system". Any way to fix this? | 20:22 |
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mparillo | Could it be this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1530523 | 21:18 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1530523 in libqapt (Ubuntu Xenial) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Triaged] | 21:18 |
mparillo | If so, comment 28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1530523/comments/28 advises sudo update-apt-xapian-index | 21:20 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1530523 in libqapt (Ubuntu Xenial) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Triaged] | 21:20 |
mparillo | Also you can try the command line: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices as recommended by: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761429/kubuntu-16-04-driver-manager-broken | 21:23 |
SporkWitch | just be careful, the default dependency conflict resolution is sometimes destructive | 21:33 |
SporkWitch | (i had it suggesting to remove most of KDE and x11 on one machine) | 21:34 |
mgolden | moparisthebest: So you have the good parts. What you can do is go to | 21:47 |
mgolden | moparisthebest: https://bugs.kde.org/ | 21:47 |
mgolden | moparisthebest: and open two bugs - one for drkonqi and one for plama | 21:48 |
mgolden | moparisthebest: be sure to paste those stack traces in | 21:48 |
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mgolden | mparisthebest: BTW, have you tried upgrading to the backports? Some chance it will help | 21:53 |
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