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Not_a_RobotBut Vivaldi is not Libre03:41
Not_a_RobotDon't use it!03:41
Not_a_RobotOr use it if you want to be violated in terms of your privacy and such.03:42
ahoneybunNot_a_Robot: please let people make their own choices03:42
ahoneybunthat's a freedom as well03:42
Not_a_RobotThat's what I said!03:43
Not_a_RobotUse it if you want03:43
ahoneybunBut saying it like that03:43
Not_a_RobotOk sorry03:43
Not_a_RobotWill not happen again03:43
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TheoryMy Kubuntu system keeps freezing up.  I have to do a manual reset.  Is there anyway I can figure out why this is happening?04:10
SporkWitchTheory: check dmesg and /var/log/syslog04:12
SporkWitchTheory: not using ATI drivers, are you?04:12
TheoryI'm not sure.04:13
TheoryWhile using /var/log/syslog it tells me permission denied.04:15
SporkWitchTheory: glxinfo | grep OpenGL04:15
SporkWitch(capitalization matters)04:15
TheoryAnd it tells me no command check found.04:16
SporkWitchTheory: you need sudo to get at syslog04:16
TheoryI am root.04:16
SporkWitchcheck isn't a command04:16
SporkWitchdmesg is04:16
Theoryok got it.04:16
SporkWitchand /var/log/syslog is a file04:16
SporkWitchTheory: do glxinfo | grep OpenGL and look for the line that mentions the renderer; that should tell you what driver you're using04:17
TheoryOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Bay Trail04:18
TheoryThats what that line says.04:19
TheoryI"m looking through those other files,04:21
TheoryI'm not sure exactly when the lockup happened.04:21
Theorynot sure where you went..04:25
SporkWitchTheory: kk, you're using the right drivers then, so it's probably not any of the GPU-related stuff i had to fight with04:26
SporkWitchi'm not a personal support tech, mate, i'm in a dozen different channels lol04:26
Theoryoh ok ;)04:26
Theorythese lock ups are pissing me off though04:27
TheoryWindows 10 never locked up on this.04:33
TheoryBut I hate windows.04:34
Theorysomething must have messed up in the install04:34
valoriewhich version are you using, Theory?04:35
valorieI remember random freezes happening in the past, but not in the last year or so04:35
TheoryThe latest.04:35
TheoryLinux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_6404:37
valorieso 16.04?04:37
valoriemost strange04:38
Theoryyes 16.0404:39
TheoryRelease:        16.0404:39
TheoryCodename:       xenial04:39
SporkWitchTheory: highlighting people is also a good way to get attention back lol *tries to catch up*04:40
Theoryif i knew something to look for in this dmesg04:40
Theoryits a cluttered mess04:40
TheorySporkWitch: sorry man04:41
SporkWitchnot that strange; i've been seeing hiccups with sandrybridge on 16.04 as well, though switching to nosplash from nomodeset has helped04:41
SporkWitch(workarounds for the splash password entry not accepting input to decrypt the drive)04:42
TheorySporkWitch: So what do you suggest I do?04:44
SporkWitchTheory: any reproduction steps? anything in particular you can tie it to or is it intermittent?04:44
TheorySporkWitch: It seems intermittent.  Nothing I can link it too.04:45
valorieheisenbugs are the worst05:06
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viewer|8684The menu freezes and the mouse cursor  moves but cannot not select any thing.  The keyboard also cannot input10:31
hateballviewer|8684: What menu? Can you be a bit more specific?10:32
hateball!details | viewer|868410:32
ubottuviewer|8684: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.10:32
viewer|8684New install, K  button on the bottom left hand corner,  afterv few clickc the mouse stops selecting10:44
hateballviewer|8684: Well, a common suggestion is to use the Kubuntu PPA as the default release is... pretty unstable10:45
viewer|8684The Lord bottom seems to have a little gear coming off of it and it's function is like that of the start button in Windows10:46
viewer|8684* k button10:46
hateballviewer|8684: at your own risk you can run this in a terminal to add the PPA "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" and then upgrade "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y"10:46
viewer|8684How show those command look when entered into the terminal?10:49
viewer|8684And what is the risk.10:51
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:51
hateballwell the risk is that they are not officially supported and could potentially crash or whatever10:52
hateballI'm guessing 90%+ in here are using the Kubuntu PPA however10:52
hateballthe rest probably Neo10:52
* Walex uses Kubuntu PPA12:01
BluesKajHiyas all12:42
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moparisthebestbahahaha I was reporting the reproducible bug I have that plasma segfaults when you click to connect to an openvpn15:20
moparisthebestand then drkonqi segfaulted....15:20
moparisthebestand you can't report bugs for it, the bug reporting application? :)15:21
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user|11216Hello. Where i can get list supported video adapters for kubuntu 16.04.1 ?16:57
SporkWitchuser|11216: if it's not ATI, you're probably fine16:57
user|11216its ATI :( , im trying find info about support MESA drv16:58
SporkWitchdoes it also have intel on-board as an option? if so, switch to that16:59
SporkWitchif not, stick to 14.0416:59
user|11216fglrx is not actual now ?17:01
SporkWitchremoved in 15.10, i believe17:03
daxyep, use radeon or amdgpu (if your card's new enough) instead17:06
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ahoneybun!info digikam18:18
ubottudigikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu7 (xenial), package size 4355 kB, installed size 16662 kB18:18
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mgoldenmoparisthebest: How far in does it segfault?18:30
moparisthebestmgolden: I checked options like I can reproduce every time and know what I was doing when it crashed, clicked next, segfault18:32
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mgoldenmoparisthebest: So you got the stacktrace?19:57
moparisthebestI *had* it, I can see if that's 100% reproducible like the other bug20:03
moparisthebestmgolden: drkonqi crash https://paste.kde.org/py4m4qyc020:06
moparisthebestmgolden: here is the plasma crash I was trying to report: https://paste.kde.org/p3kqxzx5i20:07
moparisthebestis there an alternative way to report those?20:07
debauchery1stJust installed the new Kubuntu. It looks awesome. driver manager seems stuck at "collecting information about your system". Any way to fix this?20:22
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mparilloCould it be this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/153052321:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1530523 in libqapt (Ubuntu Xenial) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Triaged]21:18
mparilloIf so, comment 28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1530523/comments/28 advises sudo update-apt-xapian-index21:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1530523 in libqapt (Ubuntu Xenial) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Triaged]21:20
mparilloAlso you can try the command line: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices as recommended by: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761429/kubuntu-16-04-driver-manager-broken21:23
SporkWitchjust be careful, the default dependency conflict resolution is sometimes destructive21:33
SporkWitch(i had it suggesting to remove most of KDE and x11 on one machine)21:34
mgoldenmoparisthebest: So you have the good parts.  What you can do is go to21:47
mgoldenmoparisthebest: https://bugs.kde.org/21:47
mgoldenmoparisthebest: and open two bugs - one for drkonqi and one for plama21:48
mgoldenmoparisthebest: be sure to paste those stack traces in21:48
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mgoldenmparisthebest: BTW, have you tried upgrading to the backports? Some chance it will help21:53

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