=== xIRC is now known as Guest6099 === Guest6099 is now known as xIRC === kubuntu is now known as Guest61872 === Guest61872 is now known as kubuntu_ [03:41] But Vivaldi is not Libre [03:41] Don't use it! [03:42] Or use it if you want to be violated in terms of your privacy and such. [03:42] Not_a_Robot: please let people make their own choices [03:42] that's a freedom as well [03:43] That's what I said! [03:43] Use it if you want [03:43] But saying it like that [03:43] Ok sorry [03:43] Will not happen again === toby is now known as Theory [04:10] My Kubuntu system keeps freezing up. I have to do a manual reset. Is there anyway I can figure out why this is happening? [04:12] Theory: check dmesg and /var/log/syslog [04:12] Theory: not using ATI drivers, are you? [04:13] I'm not sure. [04:15] While using /var/log/syslog it tells me permission denied. [04:15] Theory: glxinfo | grep OpenGL [04:15] (capitalization matters) [04:16] And it tells me no command check found. [04:16] Theory: you need sudo to get at syslog [04:16] I am root. [04:16] check isn't a command [04:16] dmesg is [04:16] ok got it. [04:16] and /var/log/syslog is a file [04:17] Theory: do glxinfo | grep OpenGL and look for the line that mentions the renderer; that should tell you what driver you're using [04:18] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Bay Trail [04:19] Thats what that line says. [04:21] I"m looking through those other files, [04:21] I'm not sure exactly when the lockup happened. [04:25] not sure where you went.. [04:26] Theory: kk, you're using the right drivers then, so it's probably not any of the GPU-related stuff i had to fight with [04:26] i'm not a personal support tech, mate, i'm in a dozen different channels lol [04:26] oh ok ;) [04:27] these lock ups are pissing me off though [04:33] Windows 10 never locked up on this. [04:34] But I hate windows. [04:34] something must have messed up in the install [04:35] which version are you using, Theory? [04:35] I remember random freezes happening in the past, but not in the last year or so [04:35] The latest. [04:37] Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64 [04:37] so 16.04? [04:38] most strange [04:39] yes 16.04 [04:39] Release: 16.04 [04:39] Codename: xenial [04:40] Theory: highlighting people is also a good way to get attention back lol *tries to catch up* [04:40] if i knew something to look for in this dmesg [04:40] its a cluttered mess [04:41] SporkWitch: sorry man [04:41] not that strange; i've been seeing hiccups with sandrybridge on 16.04 as well, though switching to nosplash from nomodeset has helped [04:42] (workarounds for the splash password entry not accepting input to decrypt the drive) [04:44] SporkWitch: So what do you suggest I do? [04:44] Theory: any reproduction steps? anything in particular you can tie it to or is it intermittent? [04:45] SporkWitch: It seems intermittent. Nothing I can link it too. [05:06] heisenbugs are the worst === vincent is now known as Guest29319 === Guest76302 is now known as lustriecki === pavlushka is now known as Guest20455 === Guest20455 is now known as eprbata === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [09:41] hola [10:31] The menu freezes and the mouse cursor moves but cannot not select any thing. The keyboard also cannot input [10:32] viewer|8684: What menu? Can you be a bit more specific? [10:32] !details | viewer|8684 [10:32] viewer|8684: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [10:44] New install, K button on the bottom left hand corner, afterv few clickc the mouse stops selecting [10:45] viewer|8684: Well, a common suggestion is to use the Kubuntu PPA as the default release is... pretty unstable [10:46] The Lord bottom seems to have a little gear coming off of it and it's function is like that of the start button in Windows [10:46] * k button [10:46] viewer|8684: at your own risk you can run this in a terminal to add the PPA "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" and then upgrade "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y" [10:49] How show those command look when entered into the terminal? [10:50] What? [10:51] And what is the risk. [10:51] !ppa [10:51] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [10:52] well the risk is that they are not officially supported and could potentially crash or whatever [10:52] I'm guessing 90%+ in here are using the Kubuntu PPA however [10:52] the rest probably Neo [10:52] Neon* [12:01] * Walex uses Kubuntu PPA [12:03] -.- [12:42] Hiyas all === santa is now known as Guest10032 === Guest10032 is now known as santa__ === lethu_ is now known as lethu [15:20] bahahaha I was reporting the reproducible bug I have that plasma segfaults when you click to connect to an openvpn [15:20] and then drkonqi segfaulted.... [15:21] and you can't report bugs for it, the bug reporting application? :) === dellhem_ is now known as dellhem [16:57] Hello. Where i can get list supported video adapters for kubuntu 16.04.1 ? [16:57] user|11216: if it's not ATI, you're probably fine [16:58] its ATI :( , im trying find info about support MESA drv [16:59] does it also have intel on-board as an option? if so, switch to that [16:59] if not, stick to 14.04 [17:00] meh [17:01] fglrx is not actual now ? [17:03] nope [17:03] removed in 15.10, i believe [17:04] :((((((((((((( [17:06] yep, use radeon or amdgpu (if your card's new enough) instead === allesz_ is now known as allessz [18:15] #digikam [18:18] !info digikam [18:18] digikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu7 (xenial), package size 4355 kB, installed size 16662 kB === santa__ is now known as santa_ [18:30] moparisthebest: How far in does it segfault? [18:32] mgolden: I checked options like I can reproduce every time and know what I was doing when it crashed, clicked next, segfault === john is now known as Guest58449 === Guest58449 is now known as j_titor === j_titor is now known as titor === titor is now known as j_titor === j_titor is now known as Guest58449 === Guest58449 is now known as titor === eprbata is now known as pavlushka === pavlushka is now known as Guest43197 === Guest43197 is now known as eprbata === eprbata is now known as pavlushka [19:57] moparisthebest: So you got the stacktrace? [20:03] I *had* it, I can see if that's 100% reproducible like the other bug [20:06] mgolden: drkonqi crash https://paste.kde.org/py4m4qyc0 [20:07] mgolden: here is the plasma crash I was trying to report: https://paste.kde.org/p3kqxzx5i [20:07] is there an alternative way to report those? [20:22] Just installed the new Kubuntu. It looks awesome. driver manager seems stuck at "collecting information about your system". Any way to fix this? === pavlushka is now known as eprbata [21:18] Could it be this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1530523 [21:18] Launchpad bug 1530523 in libqapt (Ubuntu Xenial) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Triaged] [21:20] If so, comment 28 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1530523/comments/28 advises sudo update-apt-xapian-index [21:20] Launchpad bug 1530523 in libqapt (Ubuntu Xenial) "kcm_driver_manager: Infinitely shows Collecting information" [High,Triaged] [21:23] Also you can try the command line: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices as recommended by: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761429/kubuntu-16-04-driver-manager-broken [21:33] just be careful, the default dependency conflict resolution is sometimes destructive [21:34] (i had it suggesting to remove most of KDE and x11 on one machine) [21:47] moparisthebest: So you have the good parts. What you can do is go to [21:47] moparisthebest: https://bugs.kde.org/ [21:48] moparisthebest: and open two bugs - one for drkonqi and one for plama [21:48] moparisthebest: be sure to paste those stack traces in === Haudegen_ is now known as Haudegen [21:53] mparisthebest: BTW, have you tried upgrading to the backports? Some chance it will help