[13:48] <Sven_vB> hi.
[13:54] <Sven_vB> ok my idea of volunteering just collapsed under the requirements, so... can I win some approved docs people to fix some web design issues on help.ubuntu.com? most urgent for me, there's that anonymous table with direct styling around the div.table-of-contents, could someone give a class or id to that? it even looks like it should probably be a <nav> instead of a single cell table.
[13:56] <pleia2> Sven_vB: are you able to send a message to the mailing list about this? I don't think the folks who can make changes are always in channel
[13:56] <pleia2> we mostly collaborate on the mailing list
[13:59] <Sven_vB> if the list allows, i could send a fire&forget mail. really joining and getting accustomed to the list would look more tedious than making my proxy rewrite it for my part of the internet.
[14:02] <pleia2> you need to be subscribed
[14:04] <pleia2> (the Ubuntu mailing lists get a TON of spam otherwise)
[14:04] <Sven_vB> ok... maybe i can find a bug tracker and file a feature request for the docs instead
[14:04] <pleia2> yeah, the link in the footer of all the pages will work
[14:06] <pleia2> assuming it's the static docs on help.ubuntu.com, and not the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community/
[14:10] <Sven_vB> indeed, above problem is on wiki pages
[14:11] <Sven_vB> I followed the wiki guide's link to login with Launchpad, and instead it leads me to Ubuntu one, have they been merged?
[14:12] <pleia2> they have
[14:15] <Sven_vB> thr transition from UbuntuOne back to help.… takes forever :<
[14:16] <Sven_vB> and I haven't even figured out which project to file the bug for. maybe i should start the local fixing approach
[14:16] <pleia2> yeah, they put a lot of caching in on the wiki since the moinmoin software version we're using hasn't scaled well
[14:16] <pleia2> so everything is slow
[14:16] <pleia2> many discussions about switching to a different wiki, but we're all volunteers and none of us has time to work on such a project
[14:18] <Sven_vB> at least now I have an idea why there's still a table in the code. :D
[14:18] <pleia2> you can file the comments against the ubuntu-doc project and someone will re-file if needed
[14:19] <pleia2> but yeah, not at all surprised by use of tables, it's old
[14:26] <Sven_vB> so that launchpad login link lead me to ubuntu one which lead me back to the wiki. then i follow the "ubuntu-wiki-editors Launchpad team" link and shall login to launchpad, but this time using launchpad's version of Ubuntu one which my browser hasn't saved the password for... this is chaos
[14:27] <pleia2> I know, I wish it wasn't such a mess
[14:28] <pleia2> the LP/Ubuntu One switch was done by Canonical IS with no communication with the community, and apparently fixing it isn't a priority of them, so we're pretty stuck
[14:31] <Sven_vB> so finally i arrived at https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc but there's no button to file a bug. :< i guess it's like Ubuntu forums where they expect me to clairvoyantly guess that buttons will appear once i login? (or joined the team and get approved in this case)
[14:32] <pleia2> that's the team, you want the project: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc
[14:32] <Sven_vB> oh ok, thanks
[14:32] <pleia2> sure
[14:37] <Sven_vB> it's filed. in case anyone wants to add heat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1613309
[14:38] <pleia2> thank you
[14:38] <Sven_vB> yw :)