[13:48] hi. [13:54] ok my idea of volunteering just collapsed under the requirements, so... can I win some approved docs people to fix some web design issues on help.ubuntu.com? most urgent for me, there's that anonymous table with direct styling around the div.table-of-contents, could someone give a class or id to that? it even looks like it should probably be a

instead of a single cell table. [13:56] Sven_vB: are you able to send a message to the mailing list about this? I don't think the folks who can make changes are always in channel [13:56] we mostly collaborate on the mailing list [13:59] if the list allows, i could send a fire&forget mail. really joining and getting accustomed to the list would look more tedious than making my proxy rewrite it for my part of the internet. [14:02] you need to be subscribed [14:04] (the Ubuntu mailing lists get a TON of spam otherwise) [14:04] ok... maybe i can find a bug tracker and file a feature request for the docs instead [14:04] yeah, the link in the footer of all the pages will work [14:06] assuming it's the static docs on help.ubuntu.com, and not the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community/ [14:10] indeed, above problem is on wiki pages [14:11] I followed the wiki guide's link to login with Launchpad, and instead it leads me to Ubuntu one, have they been merged? [14:12] they have [14:15] thr transition from UbuntuOne back to help.… takes forever :< [14:16] and I haven't even figured out which project to file the bug for. maybe i should start the local fixing approach [14:16] yeah, they put a lot of caching in on the wiki since the moinmoin software version we're using hasn't scaled well [14:16] so everything is slow [14:16] many discussions about switching to a different wiki, but we're all volunteers and none of us has time to work on such a project [14:18] at least now I have an idea why there's still a table in the code. :D [14:18] you can file the comments against the ubuntu-doc project and someone will re-file if needed [14:19] but yeah, not at all surprised by use of tables, it's old [14:26] so that launchpad login link lead me to ubuntu one which lead me back to the wiki. then i follow the "ubuntu-wiki-editors Launchpad team" link and shall login to launchpad, but this time using launchpad's version of Ubuntu one which my browser hasn't saved the password for... this is chaos [14:27] I know, I wish it wasn't such a mess [14:28] the LP/Ubuntu One switch was done by Canonical IS with no communication with the community, and apparently fixing it isn't a priority of them, so we're pretty stuck [14:31] so finally i arrived at https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc but there's no button to file a bug. :< i guess it's like Ubuntu forums where they expect me to clairvoyantly guess that buttons will appear once i login? (or joined the team and get approved in this case) [14:32] that's the team, you want the project: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc [14:32] oh ok, thanks [14:32] sure [14:37] it's filed. in case anyone wants to add heat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1613309 [14:38] thank you [14:38] yw :)