| superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos good morning | 05:02 |
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| Maaz | superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 05:02 |
| magespawn | good morning | 05:17 |
| thatgraemeguy | mornings | 06:18 |
| nsnzero | morning all | 06:19 |
| theblazehen | Hi all | 06:57 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:16 |
| dlPhreak | Morning everyone | 08:19 |
| paddatrapper | Morning dlPhreak, inetpro, theblazehen, nsnzero, thatgraemeguy, everyone | 08:21 |
| theblazehen | hey paddatrapper, dlPhreak, inetpro | 08:21 |
| dlPhreak | paddatrapper, theblazehen, how art thee? | 08:25 |
| paddatrapper | dlPhreak: seems like I'm getting flu again... You? | 08:26 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: Pretty decent, you? | 08:29 |
| dlPhreak | My brain is still melted and I'm typing on autopilot.. | 08:29 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: I know that feel.. | 08:30 |
| dlPhreak | theblazehen: Hah, acid? | 08:35 |
| theblazehen | Sometimes way too little sleep combined with some of my meds. Kinda cool though. Like feel hyper alert almost. Didn't work today though :( | 08:36 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: ^ | 08:37 |
| dlPhreak | Lol yeah I now the feels. I pop a tonne of adderall just to get work done but then the next day I'm a zombie. | 08:44 |
| dlPhreak | theblazehen | 08:44 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: Heh, okay | 08:47 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: Like adhd or something? | 08:47 |
| dlPhreak | theblazehen: actually no but adderall is pretty effective. | 08:55 |
| dlPhreak | Has anyone seen suicide squad yet? | 09:08 |
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| === Guest20455 is now known as eprbata | ||
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| paddatrapper | dlPhreak: I have | 09:34 |
| paddatrapper | I quite enjoyed it | 09:34 |
| dlPhreak | Really? Everyone seems like like it but I really did not like it at all. | 09:50 |
| stumenz | Hi guys | 09:58 |
| theblazehen | hey stumenz | 10:08 |
| paddatrapper | dlPhreak: what didn't you like about it? | 10:09 |
| dlPhreak | paddatrapper: I thought the story was very bland and unoriginal. | 10:29 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: Bland and unoriginal: The best kind of movie to watch when you're browsing the web | 10:31 |
| theblazehen | gotta maximize the efficiency of your chilling out times | 10:31 |
| dlPhreak | Yeah but I paid with blood money to see that movie at imax. | 10:33 |
| theblazehen | Ah. I just stream | 10:37 |
| theblazehen | RIP kat.cr :( | 10:37 |
| dlPhreak | It's now here: https://kickass.cd/ | 10:40 |
| MaNI | but can it still be trusted :) | 10:41 |
| dlPhreak | Never trust public trackers. | 10:42 |
| andrewlsd | Hi All | 11:43 |
| andrewlsd | Anyone here want to meetup for a beverage in Centurion this evening? | 11:43 |
| andrewlsd | I'll check back here a bit later, otherwise PM me. I'll be out of reception for a bit. | 11:48 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: What time? | 11:51 |
| theblazehen | dlPhreak: That's what seedboxes are for, right? | 11:51 |
| dlPhreak | theblazehen: and private trackers. | 12:10 |
| magespawn | anybody know of a progran that doea like VNC but with encyption but for free? | 12:16 |
| magespawn | enryption | 12:16 |
| magespawn | i give up | 12:17 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Windows or linux host? | 12:18 |
| magespawn | mostly windows | 12:37 |
| MaNI | well you can of course encrypt vnc :/ | 12:40 |
| MaNI | windows had RDP built in which is free | 12:41 |
| MaNI | NX is another option | 12:41 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Yeah, probably +1 on NX, but test it first. x2go is based on nx and works great on windows. Not sure if x2go is available too. Otherwise vnc + ssh | 12:46 |
| MaNI | on the VNC front I've found tigerVNC to outperform the others quite drastically in the past | 12:47 |
| MaNI | but I'll admit I've never been entirely happy with any VNC setup yet :( | 12:48 |
| magespawn | is rdp secure? it wasn't before in the older versions | 12:51 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Yes | 12:56 |
| theblazehen | Might need to make sure NTLM is enabled | 12:56 |
| MaNI | if you enable tls/ssl it's in theory as secure as those are - there were one or two issues over the year (mostly to do with the default configuration) - but I'm not aware of any major security flaws | 12:56 |
| theblazehen | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_the_hash just make sure you're aware of this | 12:56 |
| magespawn | cool thanks | 12:57 |
| theblazehen | But if users can capture that I think you may have bigger issues | 12:57 |
| MaNI | that said, not my area of expertise :p | 12:57 |
| Kilos | helloooooo za peeps | 13:06 |
| Kilos | just got back from last trip to pension offices | 13:06 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 13:15 |
| Symmetria | heh so, this morning we converted all our v6 clients to static ranges | 14:15 |
| Symmetria | so if you have a home user link with us in KE, you now get a /48 worth of IP space with it | 14:15 |
| theblazehen | Symmetria: nice | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | heh, I dont think with a /48 any home user will ever need another address again, ever | 14:19 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 14:19 |
| theblazehen | Symmetria: Yeah.. Even I only use a /16 internally | 14:20 |
| Symmetria | because in every /48 there are 120,892,581,961,462,917,470,617,6 addresses | 14:21 |
| Symmetria | lol I bet you don't even use a fraction of the addresses in that /16 either | 14:21 |
| Symmetria | I have more gadgets and IP connected crap in my house than anyone I know and I don't even fill the 255 addresses in a /24 | 14:21 |
| theblazehen | Symmetria: https://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-08-15-1622511157x141scrot.png not even close | 14:22 |
| theblazehen | Brother's downloading stuff at home, got a 10 - 15 second delay on vnc.. :/ | 14:23 |
| theblazehen | I guess I need to create a virtual interface, and route the current networks through that so I can then properly do QOS | 14:24 |
| * theblazehen wonders if I should maybe just move that to a linux box rather than pfSense | 14:24 | |
| theblazehen | Or freebsd. But I hear pf is a nice firewall | 14:25 |
| * theblazehen is waiting to see if I can a ^C through to VM so terminal can stop scrolling... | 14:25 | |
| Symmetria | heh I think I have around 160 IPs in use at my house at the moment | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | I dont use DHCP though so I'd have to really think about it to tell you exactly | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | lol | 14:36 |
| theblazehen | heh. On what? | 14:36 |
| theblazehen | Max I've had was around 290 when testing how quickly I could create lxd containers | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | heh, a shitload of things, just as a basic start on the normal gear, let me think | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | Gateway, PC has 2 IPs on it (one to the internet LAN and one to the ISCSI LAN), Server has 2 IPs on it (one to Internet LAN and one to ISCSI LAN), 7 Wifi AP's, 3 Laptops, 5 Cellphones, 2 IPAD's, 15 CCTV Cameras, 3 Baby Monitors, 5 Smart Televisions | 14:39 |
| Symmetria | :P and thats just the start of it before I start talking about other random shit and virtual machines etc | 14:39 |
| Symmetria | heh so thats 44 just on physical hardware | 14:40 |
| Symmetria | oh, there are IPs on the Sound System and on the smarthome control system as well | 14:41 |
| Symmetria | oh and IPs on the two UPS's and 1 rectifier | 14:41 |
| Symmetria | lol | 14:41 |
| magespawn | i am sure that is a normal home use scenario | 14:41 |
| theblazehen | CCTV's are kinda cheating :) But teah, cool | 14:43 |
| aalston_ | mmmmm | 15:04 |
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| Symmetria | how much would a 100/100 package cost you in ZA at the moment | 15:05 |
| Symmetria | (uncapped) | 15:05 |
| magespawn | R1599 | 15:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz seen chesedo | 15:29 |
| Maaz | Kilos: chesedo was last seen 3 days, 8 hours, 52 minutes and 45 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-08-11 23:36:19 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-08-12 22:19:13 PDT | 15:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:29 |
| Symmetria | magespawn does that include last mile or not? | 15:34 |
| magespawn | thats the monthly cost from the isp | 15:42 |
| magespawn | chat later | 16:18 |
| magespawn | home time | 16:18 |
| Cryterion | hi | 17:29 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 17:30 |
| Kilos | and ra1v3n | 17:30 |
| Kilos | and inetpro | 17:30 |
| Cryterion | Kilos, do you know why the bottom task bar in could suddenly stop displaying the running desktop apps? | 17:32 |
| inetpro | oh wb Kilos | 17:32 |
| Kilos | oh my | 17:32 |
| Kilos | konversation? | 17:33 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro , i get pension from next month wooot | 17:33 |
| Kilos | then ill be able to look at better packages | 17:34 |
| Cryterion | heya inetpro | 17:34 |
| inetpro | great news Kilos! | 17:39 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:39 |
| Kilos | all good there inetpro ? | 17:40 |
| inetpro | sign up for the Unlimited deal :-) | 17:40 |
| Kilos | cost? | 17:40 |
| Kilos | i still have to save for plane tickets hey | 17:40 |
| inetpro | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/173658-this-is-how-telkoms-unlimited-freeme-fair-use-policy-works.html | 17:41 |
| inetpro | Telkom’s new contracts kill Vodacom and MTN’s http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/172938-telkoms-new-contracts-kill-vodacom-and-mtns.html | 17:42 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how much have you been working with now? | 17:43 |
| Kilos | 200 | 17:43 |
| inetpro | 200MB? | 17:43 |
| Kilos | it used to be 3g for 2 months but almost 3g monthly now | 17:44 |
| Kilos | R199 | 17:44 |
| inetpro | ah | 17:44 |
| inetpro | 1GB: R99, 2GB: R149, 5GB: R299, 10GB: R399, 20GB: R599, Unlimited: R999 | 17:46 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:46 |
| Kilos | no man the 3g is cheaper im sure | 17:46 |
| Kilos | the 10G bundle could be good for me | 17:47 |
| Kilos | then i can upgrade often again' | 17:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:47 |
| Kilos | but you guys have given me too much work to have playtime anymore | 17:47 |
| Kilos | even the 5gig bundle looks good | 17:48 |
| Kilos | dont forget ill be saving for plane tickets all the time too | 17:49 |
| Kilos | and maybe a faster pc | 17:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:49 |
| Kilos | my girls will kill me | 17:49 |
| inetpro | you planning to travel often? | 17:51 |
| Kilos | depends on the next 3 months , but atm yes as much as possible | 17:51 |
| Kilos | 30 years to catch up | 17:52 |
| inetpro | cool! | 17:54 |
| Kilos | exciting times ahead | 17:56 |
| Kilos | 14 days till i fly | 17:56 |
| Kilos | bit scared but no other options | 17:56 |
| inetpro | I can imagine | 17:58 |
| Kilos | hehe weird but ive never been in a plane | 17:58 |
| inetpro | you'll be fine | 17:58 |
| Kilos | and i get lost in town so whats gonna happen in abu dabi | 17:59 |
| inetpro | wow, you first fly North? | 17:59 |
| Kilos | yes 2 hours in abu dabi | 17:59 |
| Kilos | cheapest flight | 17:59 |
| inetpro | interesting | 17:59 |
| Kilos | direct flight is 5 k more | 18:00 |
| Kilos | fly 30th arrive 31st and 6am board meeting at 6am on the 1st | 18:01 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:01 |
| inetpro | and when you come back you arrive here before leaving that side? | 18:02 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro pavlushka has applied for membership | 18:02 |
| Kilos | hahaha yes weird hey | 18:03 |
| Kilos | im gonna have bad jet lag | 18:03 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: first time I was on a plane was last year. It is a weird experience, but great fun for about the first half :p | 18:04 |
| Kilos | eish i have a 24 hour trip | 18:05 |
| Kilos | and how to sleep with someone else driving | 18:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:05 |
| Kilos | you cant get out and push | 18:05 |
| SEptic | eve all | 18:07 |
| paddatrapper | Well you can always wake up and push! | 18:07 |
| paddatrapper | Hey SEptic | 18:07 |
| SEptic | hi paddatrapper | 18:07 |
| paddatrapper | How you doing SEptic? | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hi SEptic | 18:08 |
| SEptic | doing good | 18:08 |
| SEptic | self? | 18:08 |
| SEptic | hey Kilos | 18:08 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 18:08 |
| magespawn | ty Kilos | 18:08 |
| SEptic | any1 here use Virtualbox a lot? | 18:09 |
| paddatrapper | Good thanks | 18:09 |
| magespawn | SEptic: a bit | 18:09 |
| paddatrapper | SEptic: I used to. Then realised I have no need for windows VM's | 18:09 |
| SEptic | rofl! | 18:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:09 |
| Kilos | you can use vms in ubuntu as well | 18:09 |
| magespawn | nice one paddatrapper | 18:10 |
| Kilos | i once ran one ubuntu release in another ones vm | 18:10 |
| SEptic | i'm probably doing something stupid but ... in a win7 ultimate VM i run / work on a project from the host's share, no problems | 18:11 |
| Kilos | used virtualbox but hear that k thing is better | 18:11 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: KVM | 18:11 |
| Kilos | ya that ty paddatrapper | 18:11 |
| Kilos | i like k things | 18:11 |
| paddatrapper | It is. And it's open source | 18:11 |
| paddatrapper | Lol | 18:11 |
| magespawn | hah Kilos | 18:12 |
| paddatrapper | SEptic: what are you struggling with? | 18:12 |
| SEptic | however when i do a semi-intensive compile / build on the application, it just sucks CPU and doesn't get the build done | 18:12 |
| Kilos | even got a k dev guy following me all over hehe | 18:12 |
| SEptic | i've noticed this with Phoenix Contact (AutomationWorx) as well as LabView from National Instruments | 18:12 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 18:12 |
| Kilos | anyone interested in translating | 18:12 |
| paddatrapper | SEptic: how many cores are you giving the guest? | 18:12 |
| Kilos | https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/tree/master/source/locale | 18:13 |
| SEptic | 2 cores guest, 2 cores host ... only have 4 :/ | 18:13 |
| paddatrapper | SEptic: And RAM? | 18:13 |
| SEptic | 4GB ram | 18:13 |
| paddatrapper | Try give it another GB or so? | 18:13 |
| Kilos | another 4g | 18:13 |
| magespawn | 4GB total? | 18:14 |
| Kilos | dont skimp on ram if you can | 18:14 |
| SEptic | 4GB for the guest | 18:14 |
| Kilos | ah thats ok | 18:14 |
| SEptic | the guest VM is only using about 1.4GB RAM | 18:14 |
| paddatrapper | Unfortunately because of how virtualisation works it will never work as optimally on the same amount of resources as if it was running on bare metal | 18:14 |
| SEptic | very true | 18:14 |
| paddatrapper | Try 3 cores? Though that's pushing it a bit | 18:14 |
| SEptic | hmm, will give it a bash | 18:15 |
| paddatrapper | KVM is a little more powerful when it comes to optimizing virtual hardware | 18:16 |
| SEptic | the second i change it and copy the applications to the guest C:\ and compile, it spits out the compile in 4 or 5 secs, running off a share it just loses its mind | 18:16 |
| SEptic | oh yea? | 18:16 |
| SEptic | havent looked at KVM before | 18:16 |
| * magespawn goes to do some reading on KVM | 18:16 | |
| Kilos | hey you clever guys | 18:17 |
| paddatrapper | I am yet to find a nice front end for it (would love to though, so if you find anything shout), but apparently it blows VirtualBox out the water | 18:17 |
| Kilos | i bought a chinese webcam but have a prob now | 18:17 |
| sicelo | :) | 18:18 |
| sicelo | you're green? :p | 18:18 |
| Kilos | internal speakers crashed so need to get and audio adapter so i can use separate headfones | 18:18 |
| paddatrapper | You have slanted eyes? | 18:18 |
| Kilos | does one get such adapters | 18:18 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: Does your pc have an audio out jack? | 18:19 |
| paddatrapper | (small round hole). I'll get a picture now now | 18:19 |
| SEptic | Kilos: a USB sound card? | 18:19 |
| Kilos | its a lappy and yes it has one but if webcam is in i dont get audio | 18:19 |
| sicelo | linux? | 18:20 |
| Kilos | duh? | 18:20 |
| Kilos | always only linux | 18:21 |
| SEptic | lol | 18:21 |
| paddatrapper | Ah Kilos that is the mic input you've plugged in | 18:21 |
| sicelo | check the volume control .. look at the input/output settngs | 18:21 |
| Kilos | yes it has mic in and audio out all in one | 18:21 |
| SEptic | i like that answer "always only linux" | 18:21 |
| Kilos | desktop has separate sockets | 18:21 |
| SEptic | laptop model? | 18:22 |
| Kilos | thinkpad t410i | 18:22 |
| Kilos | was hoping to be able to skype for 24 hours in the sky | 18:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:22 |
| paddatrapper | Ah I see. Then what you can do is find a pair of headphones that go to the combo jack or a converter that goes from 2 mini jacks to one | 18:22 |
| paddatrapper | I'll see if I can find a link | 18:23 |
| Kilos | ya the converter thing is what i nead | 18:23 |
| Kilos | 2 into one | 18:23 |
| Kilos | nt sure if they will clash though | 18:23 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: http://i.stack.imgur.com/6ByWv.jpg | 18:25 |
| paddatrapper | http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/595423486/JL0033-3-5mm-Headset-Audio-Jack-TRRS-Connector-Black-20-Piece-.jpg | 18:25 |
| Kilos | ty paddatrapper | 18:25 |
| paddatrapper | Not sure where you can get them locally though... I usually just make them | 18:26 |
| Kilos | see | 18:26 |
| Kilos | theres the prob i worry about | 18:26 |
| paddatrapper | If you're willing to wait for the post I can send you one! | 18:27 |
| Kilos | the webcam plug has three sections only | 18:27 |
| Kilos | you have? | 18:27 |
| paddatrapper | Yeah because it is only a microphone | 18:27 |
| paddatrapper | I can make on in the next few days | 18:27 |
| Kilos | yes but look at it | 18:27 |
| Kilos | the three connections | 18:27 |
| Kilos | the 2 nearest the plastic are solid | 18:28 |
| Kilos | wont that short it out | 18:28 |
| Kilos | the one nearest plastic is mic i think | 18:28 |
| Kilos | then neutral then left and right audio | 18:29 |
| Kilos | iirc | 18:29 |
| paddatrapper | No - it is designed so that connecting a 3 connector one works for speakers, and a 4 connector adds a mic | 18:29 |
| Kilos | oh cool | 18:29 |
| paddatrapper | That's why your audio is cutting out - it thinks the mic is actually headphones and it's trying to play through it when in fact it is trying to send sound to the PC... | 18:30 |
| Kilos | paddatrapper first get courier cost so i can pay it . snail mail wont be here in 2 weeks | 18:30 |
| Kilos | or maybe i can find one locally | 18:31 |
| Kilos | just need to find where | 18:31 |
| paddatrapper | You should be able to find one at the local PC or audio shop | 18:31 |
| MaNI | SEptic, FWIW I did extensive benchmarking of software compiles on both Virtualbox and KVM a few years back and KVM totally blew virtualbox out the water | 18:31 |
| Kilos | what is it called | 18:31 |
| MaNI | I use only KVM for my dev VMs now as a result | 18:32 |
| Kilos | see SEptic stuff with K in are better | 18:32 |
| Kilos | ty MaNI | 18:32 |
| MaNI | if your use case is compiling things I'd strongly recommend trying KVM - using the direct passthrough for IO though is especially important | 18:33 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: Dual TRS 3.5" jack to single TRRS 3.5" jack (probably ask for a mic + headphone connectors to a dual connector) | 18:33 |
| Kilos | ty frog boots | 18:33 |
| SEptic | MaNI: aaah i see! | 18:33 |
| MaNI | compiling is usually quite an IO bound task - and VirtualBox IO hit is just too much | 18:33 |
| Kilos | you handy to have around | 18:33 |
| SEptic | that makes sense, i figure that pulling a compile across a share is a different type of traffic | 18:34 |
| SEptic | hence why i can open and create applications no problem | 18:34 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: show them this: https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/media/products/gallery_large/MUYHSMFF.Main.jpg | 18:34 |
| SEptic | and also, same issue with more than one type of 3rd party software package | 18:34 |
| Kilos | oh i can make that | 18:35 |
| MaNI | if you are compiling off a network share thats always going to hurt - compiling software usually consists of lots of small file access | 18:35 |
| MaNI | so any added latency to file open/read will hurt | 18:35 |
| SEptic | makes perfect sense | 18:36 |
| MaNI | but again if you must do that - KVM will probably do it faster at least | 18:36 |
| Kilos | MaNI you still like us? | 18:36 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: even better :) | 18:36 |
| SEptic | i'm gonna try KVM | 18:37 |
| SEptic | thanks MaNI | 18:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:37 |
| Kilos | friendliest cleverest channel on the net | 18:37 |
| paddatrapper | SEptic: once you've worked it out let me know? :D | 18:37 |
| SEptic | hahaha | 18:39 |
| MaNI | I personally do basically all my non linux (windows osx) development in a bunch of KVM machines - the performance hit is so tiny that I barely notice it | 18:39 |
| SEptic | paddatrapper: I've become a master at documenting installations so yea, will do | 18:39 |
| SEptic | MaNI: i guess i could just side-step the issue and copy the application onto the VM's C:\ and work on there ... but defeats the point of VMs, i'd spend all day copying files around | 18:41 |
| SEptic | yoh | 19:07 |
| SEptic | KVM for president | 19:07 |
| SEptic | installation was too easy | 19:08 |
| SEptic | gonna backup this one VM then give an identical test to the issue i was having on Vbox | 19:08 |
| Kilos | yay for the k stuff | 19:11 |
| SEptic | indeed | 19:16 |
| magespawn | iam off | 19:17 |
| magespawn | i am off | 19:17 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:17 |
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| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:22 |
| SEptic | night | 19:22 |
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