[05:02] Maaz: tell Kilos good morning [05:02] superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:17] good morning [06:18] mornings [06:19] morning all [06:57] Hi all [08:16] good mornings [08:19] Morning everyone [08:21] Morning dlPhreak, inetpro, theblazehen, nsnzero, thatgraemeguy, everyone [08:21] hey paddatrapper, dlPhreak, inetpro [08:25] paddatrapper, theblazehen, how art thee? [08:26] dlPhreak: seems like I'm getting flu again... You? [08:29] dlPhreak: Pretty decent, you? [08:29] My brain is still melted and I'm typing on autopilot.. [08:30] dlPhreak: I know that feel.. [08:35] theblazehen: Hah, acid? [08:36] Sometimes way too little sleep combined with some of my meds. Kinda cool though. Like feel hyper alert almost. Didn't work today though :( [08:37] dlPhreak: ^ [08:44] Lol yeah I now the feels. I pop a tonne of adderall just to get work done but then the next day I'm a zombie. [08:44] theblazehen [08:47] dlPhreak: Heh, okay [08:47] dlPhreak: Like adhd or something? [08:55] theblazehen: actually no but adderall is pretty effective. [09:08] Has anyone seen suicide squad yet? === pavlushka is now known as Guest20455 === Guest20455 is now known as eprbata === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [09:34] dlPhreak: I have [09:34] I quite enjoyed it [09:50] Really? Everyone seems like like it but I really did not like it at all. [09:58] Hi guys [10:08] hey stumenz [10:09] dlPhreak: what didn't you like about it? [10:29] paddatrapper: I thought the story was very bland and unoriginal. [10:31] dlPhreak: Bland and unoriginal: The best kind of movie to watch when you're browsing the web [10:31] gotta maximize the efficiency of your chilling out times [10:33] Yeah but I paid with blood money to see that movie at imax. [10:37] Ah. I just stream [10:37] RIP kat.cr :( [10:40] It's now here: https://kickass.cd/ [10:41] but can it still be trusted :) [10:42] Never trust public trackers. [11:43] Hi All [11:43] Anyone here want to meetup for a beverage in Centurion this evening? [11:48] I'll check back here a bit later, otherwise PM me. I'll be out of reception for a bit. [11:51] andrewlsd: What time? [11:51] dlPhreak: That's what seedboxes are for, right? [12:10] theblazehen: and private trackers. [12:16] anybody know of a progran that doea like VNC but with encyption but for free? [12:16] enryption [12:17] i give up [12:18] magespawn: Windows or linux host? [12:37] mostly windows [12:40] well you can of course encrypt vnc :/ [12:41] windows had RDP built in which is free [12:41] NX is another option [12:46] magespawn: Yeah, probably +1 on NX, but test it first. x2go is based on nx and works great on windows. Not sure if x2go is available too. Otherwise vnc + ssh [12:47] on the VNC front I've found tigerVNC to outperform the others quite drastically in the past [12:48] but I'll admit I've never been entirely happy with any VNC setup yet :( [12:51] is rdp secure? it wasn't before in the older versions [12:56] magespawn: Yes [12:56] Might need to make sure NTLM is enabled [12:56] if you enable tls/ssl it's in theory as secure as those are - there were one or two issues over the year (mostly to do with the default configuration) - but I'm not aware of any major security flaws [12:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_the_hash just make sure you're aware of this [12:57] cool thanks [12:57] But if users can capture that I think you may have bigger issues [12:57] that said, not my area of expertise :p [13:06] helloooooo za peeps [13:06] just got back from last trip to pension offices [13:15] hi Kilos [14:15] heh so, this morning we converted all our v6 clients to static ranges [14:15] so if you have a home user link with us in KE, you now get a /48 worth of IP space with it [14:19] Symmetria: nice [14:19] heh, I dont think with a /48 any home user will ever need another address again, ever [14:19] ;p [14:20] Symmetria: Yeah.. Even I only use a /16 internally [14:21] because in every /48 there are 120,892,581,961,462,917,470,617,6 addresses [14:21] lol I bet you don't even use a fraction of the addresses in that /16 either [14:21] I have more gadgets and IP connected crap in my house than anyone I know and I don't even fill the 255 addresses in a /24 [14:22] Symmetria: https://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-08-15-1622511157x141scrot.png not even close [14:23] Brother's downloading stuff at home, got a 10 - 15 second delay on vnc.. :/ [14:24] I guess I need to create a virtual interface, and route the current networks through that so I can then properly do QOS [14:24] * theblazehen wonders if I should maybe just move that to a linux box rather than pfSense [14:25] Or freebsd. But I hear pf is a nice firewall [14:25] * theblazehen is waiting to see if I can a ^C through to VM so terminal can stop scrolling... [14:36] heh I think I have around 160 IPs in use at my house at the moment [14:36] I dont use DHCP though so I'd have to really think about it to tell you exactly [14:36] lol [14:36] heh. On what? [14:37] Max I've had was around 290 when testing how quickly I could create lxd containers [14:37] heh, a shitload of things, just as a basic start on the normal gear, let me think [14:39] Gateway, PC has 2 IPs on it (one to the internet LAN and one to the ISCSI LAN), Server has 2 IPs on it (one to Internet LAN and one to ISCSI LAN), 7 Wifi AP's, 3 Laptops, 5 Cellphones, 2 IPAD's, 15 CCTV Cameras, 3 Baby Monitors, 5 Smart Televisions [14:39] :P and thats just the start of it before I start talking about other random shit and virtual machines etc [14:40] heh so thats 44 just on physical hardware [14:41] oh, there are IPs on the Sound System and on the smarthome control system as well [14:41] oh and IPs on the two UPS's and 1 rectifier [14:41] lol [14:41] i am sure that is a normal home use scenario [14:43] CCTV's are kinda cheating :) But teah, cool [15:04] mmmmm === aalston_ is now known as Symmetria [15:05] how much would a 100/100 package cost you in ZA at the moment [15:05] (uncapped) [15:26] R1599 [15:29] Maaz seen chesedo [15:29] Kilos: chesedo was last seen 3 days, 8 hours, 52 minutes and 45 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-08-11 23:36:19 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-08-12 22:19:13 PDT [15:29] ai! [15:34] magespawn does that include last mile or not? [15:42] thats the monthly cost from the isp [16:18] chat later [16:18] home time [17:29] hi [17:30] hi Cryterion [17:30] and ra1v3n [17:30] and inetpro [17:32] Kilos, do you know why the bottom task bar in could suddenly stop displaying the running desktop apps? [17:32] oh wb Kilos [17:32] oh my [17:33] konversation? [17:33] ty inetpro , i get pension from next month wooot [17:34] then ill be able to look at better packages [17:34] heya inetpro [17:39] great news Kilos! [17:39] yeah [17:40] all good there inetpro ? [17:40] sign up for the Unlimited deal :-) [17:40] cost? [17:40] i still have to save for plane tickets hey [17:41] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/173658-this-is-how-telkoms-unlimited-freeme-fair-use-policy-works.html [17:42] Telkom’s new contracts kill Vodacom and MTN’s http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/172938-telkoms-new-contracts-kill-vodacom-and-mtns.html [17:43] Kilos: how much have you been working with now? [17:43] 200 [17:43] 200MB? [17:44] it used to be 3g for 2 months but almost 3g monthly now [17:44] R199 [17:44] ah [17:46] 1GB: R99, 2GB: R149, 5GB: R299, 10GB: R399, 20GB: R599, Unlimited: R999 [17:46] eish [17:46] no man the 3g is cheaper im sure [17:47] the 10G bundle could be good for me [17:47] then i can upgrade often again' [17:47] hehe [17:47] but you guys have given me too much work to have playtime anymore [17:48] even the 5gig bundle looks good [17:49] dont forget ill be saving for plane tickets all the time too [17:49] and maybe a faster pc [17:49] hehe [17:49] my girls will kill me [17:51] you planning to travel often? [17:51] depends on the next 3 months , but atm yes as much as possible [17:52] 30 years to catch up [17:54] cool! [17:56] exciting times ahead [17:56] 14 days till i fly [17:56] bit scared but no other options [17:58] I can imagine [17:58] hehe weird but ive never been in a plane [17:58] you'll be fine [17:59] and i get lost in town so whats gonna happen in abu dabi [17:59] wow, you first fly North? [17:59] yes 2 hours in abu dabi [17:59] cheapest flight [17:59] interesting [18:00] direct flight is 5 k more [18:01] fly 30th arrive 31st and 6am board meeting at 6am on the 1st [18:01] sjoe [18:02] and when you come back you arrive here before leaving that side? [18:02] oh inetpro pavlushka has applied for membership [18:03] hahaha yes weird hey [18:03] im gonna have bad jet lag [18:04] Kilos: first time I was on a plane was last year. It is a weird experience, but great fun for about the first half :p [18:05] eish i have a 24 hour trip [18:05] and how to sleep with someone else driving [18:05] sjoe [18:05] you cant get out and push [18:07] eve all [18:07] Well you can always wake up and push! [18:07] Hey SEptic [18:07] hi paddatrapper [18:08] How you doing SEptic? [18:08] hi SEptic [18:08] doing good [18:08] self? [18:08] hey Kilos [18:08] wb magespawn [18:08] ty Kilos [18:09] any1 here use Virtualbox a lot? [18:09] Good thanks [18:09] SEptic: a bit [18:09] SEptic: I used to. Then realised I have no need for windows VM's [18:09] rofl! [18:09] lol [18:09] you can use vms in ubuntu as well [18:10] nice one paddatrapper [18:10] i once ran one ubuntu release in another ones vm [18:11] i'm probably doing something stupid but ... in a win7 ultimate VM i run / work on a project from the host's share, no problems [18:11] used virtualbox but hear that k thing is better [18:11] Kilos: KVM [18:11] ya that ty paddatrapper [18:11] i like k things [18:11] It is. And it's open source [18:11] Lol [18:12] hah Kilos [18:12] SEptic: what are you struggling with? [18:12] however when i do a semi-intensive compile / build on the application, it just sucks CPU and doesn't get the build done [18:12] even got a k dev guy following me all over hehe [18:12] i've noticed this with Phoenix Contact (AutomationWorx) as well as LabView from National Instruments [18:12] oh ya [18:12] anyone interested in translating [18:12] SEptic: how many cores are you giving the guest? [18:13] https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/tree/master/source/locale [18:13] 2 cores guest, 2 cores host ... only have 4 :/ [18:13] SEptic: And RAM? [18:13] 4GB ram [18:13] Try give it another GB or so? [18:13] another 4g [18:14] 4GB total? [18:14] dont skimp on ram if you can [18:14] 4GB for the guest [18:14] ah thats ok [18:14] the guest VM is only using about 1.4GB RAM [18:14] Unfortunately because of how virtualisation works it will never work as optimally on the same amount of resources as if it was running on bare metal [18:14] very true [18:14] Try 3 cores? Though that's pushing it a bit [18:15] hmm, will give it a bash [18:16] KVM is a little more powerful when it comes to optimizing virtual hardware [18:16] the second i change it and copy the applications to the guest C:\ and compile, it spits out the compile in 4 or 5 secs, running off a share it just loses its mind [18:16] oh yea? [18:16] havent looked at KVM before [18:16] * magespawn goes to do some reading on KVM [18:17] hey you clever guys [18:17] I am yet to find a nice front end for it (would love to though, so if you find anything shout), but apparently it blows VirtualBox out the water [18:17] i bought a chinese webcam but have a prob now [18:18] :) [18:18] you're green? :p [18:18] internal speakers crashed so need to get and audio adapter so i can use separate headfones [18:18] You have slanted eyes? [18:18] does one get such adapters [18:19] Kilos: Does your pc have an audio out jack? [18:19] (small round hole). I'll get a picture now now [18:19] Kilos: a USB sound card? [18:19] its a lappy and yes it has one but if webcam is in i dont get audio [18:20] linux? [18:20] duh? [18:21] always only linux [18:21] lol [18:21] Ah Kilos that is the mic input you've plugged in [18:21] check the volume control .. look at the input/output settngs [18:21] yes it has mic in and audio out all in one [18:21] i like that answer "always only linux" [18:21] desktop has separate sockets [18:22] laptop model? [18:22] thinkpad t410i [18:22] was hoping to be able to skype for 24 hours in the sky [18:22] hehe [18:22] Ah I see. Then what you can do is find a pair of headphones that go to the combo jack or a converter that goes from 2 mini jacks to one [18:23] I'll see if I can find a link [18:23] ya the converter thing is what i nead [18:23] 2 into one [18:23] nt sure if they will clash though [18:25] Kilos: http://i.stack.imgur.com/6ByWv.jpg [18:25] http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/595423486/JL0033-3-5mm-Headset-Audio-Jack-TRRS-Connector-Black-20-Piece-.jpg [18:25] ty paddatrapper [18:26] Not sure where you can get them locally though... I usually just make them [18:26] see [18:26] theres the prob i worry about [18:27] If you're willing to wait for the post I can send you one! [18:27] the webcam plug has three sections only [18:27] you have? [18:27] Yeah because it is only a microphone [18:27] I can make on in the next few days [18:27] yes but look at it [18:27] the three connections [18:28] the 2 nearest the plastic are solid [18:28] wont that short it out [18:28] the one nearest plastic is mic i think [18:29] then neutral then left and right audio [18:29] iirc [18:29] No - it is designed so that connecting a 3 connector one works for speakers, and a 4 connector adds a mic [18:29] oh cool [18:30] That's why your audio is cutting out - it thinks the mic is actually headphones and it's trying to play through it when in fact it is trying to send sound to the PC... [18:30] paddatrapper first get courier cost so i can pay it . snail mail wont be here in 2 weeks [18:31] or maybe i can find one locally [18:31] just need to find where [18:31] You should be able to find one at the local PC or audio shop [18:31] SEptic, FWIW I did extensive benchmarking of software compiles on both Virtualbox and KVM a few years back and KVM totally blew virtualbox out the water [18:31] what is it called [18:32] I use only KVM for my dev VMs now as a result [18:32] see SEptic stuff with K in are better [18:32] ty MaNI [18:33] if your use case is compiling things I'd strongly recommend trying KVM - using the direct passthrough for IO though is especially important [18:33] Kilos: Dual TRS 3.5" jack to single TRRS 3.5" jack (probably ask for a mic + headphone connectors to a dual connector) [18:33] ty frog boots [18:33] MaNI: aaah i see! [18:33] compiling is usually quite an IO bound task - and VirtualBox IO hit is just too much [18:33] you handy to have around [18:34] that makes sense, i figure that pulling a compile across a share is a different type of traffic [18:34] hence why i can open and create applications no problem [18:34] Kilos: show them this: https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/media/products/gallery_large/MUYHSMFF.Main.jpg [18:34] and also, same issue with more than one type of 3rd party software package [18:35] oh i can make that [18:35] if you are compiling off a network share thats always going to hurt - compiling software usually consists of lots of small file access [18:35] so any added latency to file open/read will hurt [18:36] makes perfect sense [18:36] but again if you must do that - KVM will probably do it faster at least [18:36] MaNI you still like us? [18:36] Kilos: even better :) [18:37] i'm gonna try KVM [18:37] thanks MaNI [18:37] hehe [18:37] friendliest cleverest channel on the net [18:37] SEptic: once you've worked it out let me know? :D [18:39] hahaha [18:39] I personally do basically all my non linux (windows osx) development in a bunch of KVM machines - the performance hit is so tiny that I barely notice it [18:39] paddatrapper: I've become a master at documenting installations so yea, will do [18:41] MaNI: i guess i could just side-step the issue and copy the application onto the VM's C:\ and work on there ... but defeats the point of VMs, i'd spend all day copying files around [19:07] yoh [19:07] KVM for president [19:08] installation was too easy [19:08] gonna backup this one VM then give an identical test to the issue i was having on Vbox [19:11] yay for the k stuff [19:16] indeed [19:17] iam off [19:17] i am off [19:17] good night all === eprbata is now known as pavlushka [19:22] night all. sleep tight [19:22] night === pavlushka is now known as Guest43197 === Guest43197 is now known as eprbata === eprbata is now known as pavlushka === pavlushka is now known as eprbata