[06:52] <flocculant> no yak iso's currently
[08:16] <akxwi-dave> morning all... any reason why there hasn't been a build since saturday.. or shall I just request a rebuild..
[09:00] <akxwi-dave> ran the rebuild anyway
[10:01] <akxwi-dave> the iso failed to rebuild again..
[10:07] <knome> 09:52  flocculant: no yak iso's currently
[10:07] <knome> akxwi-dave, you definitely need a screen :)
[10:08] <davmor2> knome: or tmux :)
[10:09] <knome> whatever you fancy
[10:09] <knome> did you poke pleia2 already?
[10:09] <davmor2> byobu is my personal favourite :)
[10:10] <akxwi-dave> :-)  funny thing is I set up a raspberry pi machine to run irc While i was on  holiday, came back and found that my dearest daugther had unplugged the ower supply to charge her bloody phone.. and  didn't plugit back in..
[10:10] <knome> that happens
[10:11] <akxwi-dave> need to sort something a bit more permament
[10:11] <knome> poke pleia2 
[10:11] <knome> :)
[10:12] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[10:23] <davmor2> akxwi-dave: tape your daughters hand in bubble wrap so she can't unplug things without you knowing? no.......oh I see you meant a permanent server not a solution for your daughter ;)
[10:23] <akxwi-dave> lol.. would love too.. but as shes a medical secretary, she'll need them for typing
[11:49] <knome> pleia2, a team member asked me about @xubuntu.org email addresses, how do you feel about those again?
[11:50] <pleia2> knome: still pretty meh
[11:50] <knome> was the argument "IS is slow"?
[11:50] <pleia2> we'd have to talk to IS to see if they'd provide such a service
[11:50] <knome> they have @ubuntustudio.org ones
[11:51] <pleia2> even my @ubuntu.com address seems to be a bit unreliable of late (I didn't get an email from flocculant a while back)
[11:51] <knome> my question is if they offer us authenticating smtp so we can actually use those for sending
[11:51] <knome> because without that, it's pretty moot IMO
[11:51] <pleia2> ah, so better than the @ubuntu.com forwards
[11:51] <knome> i don't know if US has that
[11:52] <knome> but if we set the email forwards up, that's my requirement
[11:52] <pleia2> IS? I don't know either
[11:52] <knome> because without that, it's just the same as @ubuntu.com
[11:52] <pleia2> yeah
[11:52] <knome> (eg. i won't use it, because i don't need yet another alias)
[11:52] <pleia2> and it would be lovely to see more of our team members become Ubuntu members ;)
[11:52] <knome> or - dump alias at least
[11:52] <pleia2> all of them can on their Xubuntu work alone
[11:53] <knome> well, we have a council soon, maybe we can set up team delegation as well
[11:53] <knome> btw, staging.xubuntu.org is fun
[11:53] <knome> lots of deprecation messages
[11:53] <pleia2> yeah, that would be the php7 upgrade
[11:53] <pleia2> you're welcome :P
[11:54] <knome> no worries
[11:54] <knome> i'll just set WP_DEBUG to FALSE
[11:54]  * pleia2 nods
[11:54] <knome> but facepalm
[11:54] <pleia2> yeah
[11:54] <knome> try to stretch the window to a wide onw
[11:54] <knome> *one
[11:54] <knome> on the front page
[11:54] <knome> and see what happens to the content right below the menu
[11:54] <knome> actually you can do that on the main site too
[11:54] <knome> "oops"
[11:55] <knome> fixing that next...
[11:56] <pleia2> only the top section is stretchy?
[11:56] <knome> yes
[11:56] <knome> it shouldn't
[11:56]  * pleia2 nods
[11:57] <knome> at least *that* stretchy
[11:57] <pleia2> yeah
[11:58] <knome> meh, i hate .profile's default
[11:58] <knome> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[11:58] <knome> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
[11:58] <knome> who would want ~/bin ? i always use ~/.bin
[11:58] <pleia2> I use ~/bin
[11:58] <knome> i don't want more visible directories in my home as needed
[11:59] <pleia2> I don't know why people would use .bin :)
[11:59] <knome> because it nicely hides the directory you only ever touch once a month or two
[11:59] <knome> or maybe not even that often
[11:59] <knome> ...it could add both :P
[11:59] <pleia2> I don't think .bin is a common convention
[12:00] <knome> it's your home, who cares about conventions there? (:
[12:00] <pleia2> defaults in config files
[12:00] <knome> you can create a silly directory structure there anyway
[12:00] <knome> oh well
[12:00] <knome> fortunately i can edit .profile
[12:00] <pleia2> indeed
[12:00] <knome> i just always forget the silly defaults :P
[12:24] <knome> pleia2, another question related to website
[12:24] <knome> pleia2, people have asked us why we don't offer the 14.04 downloads on the website any more
[12:24] <knome> pleia2, from my POV, there's no reason to install 14.04 now as there's a newer LTS out; those who *NEED* it can find it elsewhere
[12:25] <knome> pleia2, any objections to that, eg. should we offer 14.04 still, maybe from a subpage?
[12:26] <pleia2> I replied to someone asking on G+ (they also asked on Twitter) saying that we don't want to promote an LTS that will be gone in less than 8 months, and that it's still available if you search through the iso archives anyway
[12:27] <knome> yeah, that's pretty much my opinion as well
[12:27] <knome> basically you can get *any* version you want after a simple search
[12:27] <pleia2> yeah
[12:42] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: btw - not just us not building - affecting kubuntu and kylin too - some issue with python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat, got same thing locally now I did an upgrade 
[12:44] <flocculant> lost printer as well :)
[12:47] <knome> eh, lost xorg.conf on update
[12:47] <knome> well upgrade :P
[12:47] <knome> but i want to keep it
[12:48] <knome> otherwise i'd have to reconnect my display cables and that's too much work...
[12:48] <knome> (not every time, once)